Renan Santos: There was a period, I think in the 60s, 70s, when Brazil sent thousands of young people to study agronomy abroad. Yeah,
Sérgio Sacani: that's the thing, right? There has to be that partnership with... That has to exist everywhere. The rare earths business, for me, the solution is to send people to... By the way, the government should have sent that a long time ago, right? Isn't it? Oh, but
the programs the government has to send people to study abroad? Oh, I went to study sociology in Spain. Wow, what's the use of that? None. Brazil, like Brazil needs to deal with energy and Brazil needs to deal with rare earths. We need to train tons of people so we can act in these areas.
Renan Santos: tons. Maybe biotechnology, given that we have agribusiness and Brazilian biomes that are super rich, but our investment in research has to be for that. We keep training a bunch of people in law school, what's the use of training a bunch of lawyers?
Renan Santos: There are a lot of colleges, a lot of ProUni for colleges. Let's stop this... It's because the demand is guaranteed, right?