Renan Santos: Who is going to form the ticket with you?
Renan Santos: Right?
I like, for example, making it easier to open parties. And I say this myself, now being the president of a party, which for many people is a mafia, and it is a mafia, so I could just say, 'Well, I joined, now I'll pull up the ladder.' No.
Renan Santos: I think that makes democratic work easier, but...
Renan Santos: Then you have to scale back that issue of the party and electoral funds.