Renan Santos: And it has nothing to do with corruption.
Renan Santos: Pay close attention.
Lula ran from the debates, Lula doesn't want to face me, he can't stand to see me as if I were the devil on the cross.
Renan Santos: And the problem is this news that's coming out today, it's on everyone's front page.
Renan Santos: Households are going to go under.