Nikolas Ferreira: This is how they do it to those who are honest.
Nikolas Ferreira: But I have here a challenge to make to Mr. Lula.
Lula, I'm calling you for a debate. I have no demands.
Nikolas Ferreira: Actually, I have only one. It can be at the Planalto (Presidential Palace), it can be anywhere, any day, as long as it's live.
Nikolas Ferreira: Are you willing to defend your lies in front of me?