Nikolas Ferreira: The region's shops are taken over by criminal organizations - to open a business, one has to pay a fee to those criminals.
Nikolas Ferreira: This is how the Left left the Amazon.
If an indigenous person or someone else who lives there wants, for their own survival, to cut down some trees to plant a potato, a beet, whatever it may be, they are fined for it, because 95% of the region are preservation areas.
Nikolas Ferreira: Is it worth having, quote-unquote 'everything preserved' if the people are in misery?
Nikolas Ferreira: We are not talking about degradation, about deforestation; we are talking about something responsible.