Mateus Simões: Pimentel isn't corrupt, no, as governor.
Mateus Simões: Pimentel is simply completely absent.
He didn't govern Minas Gerais; he didn't even have the chance to steal, because he wasn't here to take care of the government, he was locked inside the palace and left the government there.
Mateus Simões: And it was good, yes, for the government of Minas Gerais because it allowed the accounts somehow to get back on track so we could resume paying the debt.
Mateus Simões: which happened now.