Mateus Simões: It's true of Brazilian states as a whole.
Mateus Simões: I have publicly argued that with the next President of the Republic, I hope it won't be Lula, but if it is, with him as well, this is not a problem; it wasn't for negotiating the debt now, and it won't be to discuss it later.
I would like to propose to the federal government that what we pay in debt remain in Minas Gerais for federal government projects.
Mateus Simões: I'm not trying to appropriate the money.
Mateus Simões: no, because people from Minas are good payers, we like to pay what we owe.