Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: So now we have put forward the Public Security PEC.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: With the PEC approved, I will create the Ministry and we have to convince...
My guys from Finance, from Planning, that we don't need much money to ensure support to work in alliance with the state governments, with municipalities, using the Federal Police, the Federal Highway Police, the Penal Police, so that we can definitively solve the public security problem, arresting whoever needs to be arrested, you know?
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: Punishing whoever needs to be punished, but not killing those who don't need to die.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: Because it's very easy to talk about public security, go into a poor neighborhood, kill 10, 15 people — it's not solved.