Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: Do you realize that all the engineering firms Brazil had — companies that were models worldwide, that were operating in Africa, in South America, that were building Miami airport — all those companies were destroyed.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: All of them.
They could have removed the owner and kept those companies running.
Desconhecido: I agree.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: But they didn't do it that way.