Desconhecido: We've been talking about it.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: Because it's us men.
By the way, I saw something you said that we men should have to fight in defense of women.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: So I think this: when I proposed the pact against femicide, that's why.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: It's not the woman who has to fight for herself.
