Kim Kataguiri: It's almost an embarrassed vote for Lula.
Kim Kataguiri: It's another useful vote from the left to defeat the right.
So Renan does indeed have this spontaneous effort that I think is somewhat symptomatic of the spirit of the times.
Kim Kataguiri: And the more experienced analyst, more attentive to what happens in the world, I think would already see it.
Kim Kataguiri: the phenomenon of Renan's rise and his victory in the elections.