Kim Kataguiri: Then they said, 'oh no, it will be irrelevant.'
Kim Kataguiri: They said, 'it will be irrelevant; the candidacy will amount to nothing.'
It went 1, 2, 3, 10 and climbs to 20, 30, 40, up to 50, 55% when we defeat Lula in the second round.
Kim Kataguiri: Campaign is war.
Kim Kataguiri: Churchill used to say that politics is war.
