Kim Kataguiri: He has lost elections for every executive level already: he lost the mayoralty, he lost the state government, he lost the presidency of the Republic.
Kim Kataguiri: He can no longer get elected to any executive office in the state.
PT never won and will never win the state of São Paulo.
Kim Kataguiri: Regarding Tarcísio, I think there's exhaustion with the PSDB model, and Tarcísio carried out yet another PSDB-style administration.
Kim Kataguiri: Who runs the government politically is Gilberto Kassab, who is a figure of the centrão, who supports Lula at the federal level and supports Tarcísio at the state level.