Kim Kataguiri: If it's very serious, you're going to jail.
Kim Kataguiri: Ah, it's unconstitutional, you can't touch it.
All this 'oh poor them' mentality that was created around delinquent students, which destroyed Brazilian education.
Kim Kataguiri: It's destroyed, neglected, and private schools are the ones with the best indicators.
Kim Kataguiri: But even Brazil's private schools are far behind the public and private systems of other emerging and developed countries.