Desconhecido: Really, in this attention economy, many times through controversies, through strong phrases, even insults—swear words are used now and then—this grabs attention, it really builds a loyal base, but this sometimes comes at a price in terms of credibility, because sometimes a person sees... you, sir, or Renan, or someone else, someone from MBL or Missão, in a video saying something, and treating those kids as having no ability to manage anything, let alone a country.
Desconhecido: I mean, this thing about form and content—sometimes the form does not get in the way of the content.
I don't think so, first of all, because, just to, let's say, make an observation regarding the assumption of your question, when Renan swears, it's not calculated, okay?
Kim Kataguiri: It's not because he thinks it's the form that helps to get more attention, it's genuine.
Kim Kataguiri: It's just his way, he, well... It comes up, his blood boils on a certain subject and he says a swear word.