Kim Kataguiri: And I'll admit it here, we really don't have experience.
Kim Kataguiri: The experience our enemies have, we don't have.
We don't have the experience of looting Petrobras.
Kim Kataguiri: We don't have the experience of buying off the parliament with bribes.
Kim Kataguiri: We don't have the experience of provoking a crisis worse than the pandemic crisis, which was the Dilma government.