Geraldo Alckmin: Then we launched, Marcelo, a program called Move Brasil.
Geraldo Alckmin: So, the trucker — Pinda has a transport company, the trucker... Instead of paying 25% interest, he pays 12%.
There is a grace period: the first year he doesn't pay, and there's a long term, 8 years to finance.
Geraldo Alckmin: And interest rates of up to 11% — the rates can reach 11%.
Geraldo Alckmin: Truck sales increased a lot.