Gabriel Azevedo: A lot of dialogue with the federal government is necessary.
Gabriel Azevedo: Speaking of less populism, you must have followed Operação Rejeito, which is a corruption scandal within... the current state government.
Every time you have dependence on a permit with few clear rules in the sector and a variation of models that doesn't allow companies to keep up, you'll have a businessman wanting to pay someone to get an advantage.
Gabriel Azevedo: So, the first point is a process with very clear rules.
Gabriel Azevedo: Very clear.