Fernando Haddad: What is that?
Fernando Haddad: It's a BNDES for São Paulo's reindustrialization.
We have to prepare São Paulo's logistics, prepare São Paulo's workforce for the new industry.
Fernando Haddad: It does no good for me to say that São Paulo has the best... workforce in Brazil; we deindustrialized because of the fiscal war.
Fernando Haddad: And now, who will come here?