Fernando Haddad: If current legislation were enforced, there would already be an invaluable gain.
Fernando Haddad: Now, the State's finances.
Tarcísio inherited about 20 billion in the treasury, 19-something.
Fernando Haddad: 19 and change.
Fernando Haddad: He sold Sabesp below market value for 13; with 19, that's 32.