Fernando Haddad: If it weren't for the debt renegotiation of São Paulo carried out by the federal government, Tarcísio's government wouldn't be able to close the books at the end of its term.
Fernando Haddad: He doesn't acknowledge anything, but the numbers are real.
These projects that we announced and contracted, Túnia, Santos and Guarujá, all of that is federal money.
Fernando Haddad: And it will be paid with the debt relief that we have already provided so he can manage to pay.
Fernando Haddad: Because if he were to contract without reducing the debt, he would not be able to pay.