Renan Santos: oil, it's
Sérgio Sacani: like the heavy oil we get, we sell the oil to be refined abroad and buy it back later refined.
Basically it's the same thing, that's not even a huge problem, but the thing is, the processing had to be here. Obviously. The processing had to be here. My fear, what's my fear?
Sérgio Sacani: When we talk about an extremely heavy industry like this, we Brazilians here, who lived through all the petrolão and such, we know in whose hands this will fall. We know in whose hands it will fall. Unfortunately, there are four or five companies that can do this. Serjão,
Renan Santos: to be honest...