Desconhecido: This guy is susceptible to pressure, and this guy — if I also hold on to him and flip him — he can flip maybe three more.
Desconhecido: Then the guys gave a short list; I think it has about 50 names.
And that was the list, so like, one state is two, another is four, another... We launched a website, it was the impeachment map, a site that showed the deputy's position, or, initially, the committee's position.
Desconhecido: And we published to the population: look, such-and-such deputy is in favor, is against, or is undecided.
Desconhecido: A commission was then set up so that there would be an opinion on the impeachment.