Flavio Bolsonaro: I was just going to correct that remark of mine, I really misspoke in that statement.
Desconhecido: Please, in a little while then, just to conclude my reasoning.
Arguing with you is this: public finance specialists say that cutting appointed positions, reducing ministries, gives an example of fiscal rigor, but it doesn't make a difference, it doesn't even scratch our real problem.
Desconhecido: that there would have to be cuts in structural areas of this debt.
Desconhecido: So, one of them is pensions.