ENTREVISTA COM TARCÍSIO DE FREITAS (REPUBLICANOS) AO GOVERNO DE SÃO PAULO | CNN ELEIÇÕES

"Good evening, this is CNN Brasil, and today, August 12, we continue the series of interviews with the candidates running for governor of Brazil's main states and of the Federal District."

"Invited are the candidates who are highest placed on the CNN index, CNN's polling aggregator developed in partnership with IPESP Analítica."

"We begin with the state of São Paulo, the country's largest electorate, with more than 34 million voters."

"We spoke with the PT candidate, Fernando Haddad."

"Today, Wednesday, it's the turn of the current governor and candidate for re-election for the Republicans, Tarcísio de Freitas, who is already in the CNN studio in São Paulo."

"Good evening, Governor."

"Welcome here, candidate."

"Beside me in this interview, as we did on Monday, are political analysts Clarissa Oliveira and Pedro Wenceslau."

"I also say good evening to my colleagues."

"We will have 45 minutes to talk with each of the candidates, and our clock starts now."

"Candidate, you will have plenty of time here to explain what has been done in these four years, but I want to start."

"With the opposite exercise, what was done that you learned from and considered a mistake that will not be repeated if you are re-elected to another term as governor of São Paulo?"

"Good evening, Yuri, Clarissa, Pedro, and everyone who is watching us on CNN."

"We learn every day."

"I think an experience like this is full of successes and mistakes."

"And there are many mistakes we make that we want to correct."

"We learn a lot; we learn that sometimes the simple things make the difference — sometimes it's not the big project, that emblematic, iconic, very expensive work."

"Sometimes the population needs to be assisted with the simple things; they need that... that piece of equipment that will make the difference."

"We are very... immersed in those issues that are part of people's day-to-day lives."

"And I'm sure we will be able to greatly improve based on the learning over these four years in order to make a difference."

"But then, in practice, what was the policy, the measure that you took?"

"Speaking?"

"Can't this be repeated again?"

"Look, you saw that over the course of my term I changed my mind a few times on some issues."

"And sometimes I was even criticized for that."

"Gosh, you changed your mind, Tarcísio backs down, Tarcísio backs down — that was always the headline."

"And I will back down whenever I am wrong, I will change my mind whenever I'm wrong, whenever I'm convinced."

"We sought to assemble a fantastic team, a technical team, and when the team comes to you and says, look, Tarcísio, this doesn't work, we will change our mind."

About: implement use of body cameras for police officers

"I'll give an example: I changed my mind on the issue of body-worn cameras."

"I had a more critical view, because of the experience I even had in the Armed Forces."

"And I wanted to transpose that experience to the day-to-day life of the police officer on the streets."

"And the two have nothing to do with each other."

"And the police themselves showed me that I was wrong."

"So I went back on it."

"And that happens every day."

"I think we have to have the humility to realize where we are making mistakes and be able to correct our course."

"Good evening, Governor."

"Thank you for taking your time to come here and give this interview, because we appreciate the valuing of the space of professional journalism and our work here at CNN."

"I would like to take advantage of the fact that you already brought up the issue of public security so we can look a bit at the scenario, at the diagnosis that comes out of your government."

"Indeed, the homicide rate has fallen."