[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":-1},["ShallowReactive",2],{"transcript-f1174306-05aa-4b6b-b7e9-5bcc56bc01b0-es":3,"transcript-poster-f1174306-05aa-4b6b-b7e9-5bcc56bc01b0":654,"footer-top-topics-es":655,"footer-top-speakers-es":708},{"falas":4,"lang":641,"meta":642},[5,15,22,30,37,44,51,57,63,70,75,80,86,92,98,104,110,115,120,126,131,137,142,147,153,159,165,171,177,183,188,194,201,207,213,219,225,231,238,245,251,256,261,267,273,279,285,291,297,303,309,315,321,327,333,339,344,350,356,362,368,374,380,386,392,398,403,409,415,421,427,433,439,445,451,457,463,469,475,481,487,493,499,505,511,517,523,529,535,541,547,553,558,564,570,576,582,588,594,600,606,612,618,623,629,635],{"idx":6,"utterance_id":7,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":10,"start_s":11,"end_s":12,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},0,"27902","Luis Inacio Lula da Silva","luis-inacio-lula-da-silva","Mire, acabo de firmar el decreto que acabará con el oligopolio de unas pocas empresas en el vale de comida del trabajador.",0.38,11.2,21,false,{"idx":16,"utterance_id":17,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":18,"start_s":19,"end_s":20,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},1,"27903","Voy a dar la palabra al ministro Marinho para que explique qué es esto.",12.12,15.7,14,{"idx":23,"utterance_id":24,"speaker_name":25,"text":26,"start_s":27,"end_s":28,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},2,"27904","Desconhecido","Bien, presidente, presidente, los ministros, nuestro vicepresidente.",17.18,21.26,7,{"idx":31,"utterance_id":32,"speaker_name":25,"text":33,"start_s":34,"end_s":35,"word_count":36,"indexable":14},3,"27905","Bueno, esta es una medida, señor Presidente, que tiene un alcance que tal vez sea mayor de lo que estamos percibiendo.",21.88,27.82,19,{"idx":38,"utterance_id":39,"speaker_name":25,"text":40,"start_s":41,"end_s":42,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},4,"27906","Porque las cuatro... grandes empresas que tienen el verdadero oligopolio están en contra de esto aquí, pero al otro lado están las demás empresas más pequeñas que apoyan totalmente lo que estamos haciendo, porque aumentará la competencia.",28.6,45.16,39,{"idx":45,"utterance_id":46,"speaker_name":25,"text":47,"start_s":48,"end_s":49,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},5,"27907","Al acabar con el oligopolio, esas empresas podrán participar activamente, aportando transparencia y generando competencia.",45.38,51.9,16,{"idx":52,"utterance_id":53,"speaker_name":25,"text":54,"start_s":55,"end_s":56,"word_count":38,"indexable":14},6,"27908","¿para beneficiar a quién, señor Presidente?",51.96,53.46,{"idx":29,"utterance_id":58,"speaker_name":25,"text":59,"start_s":60,"end_s":61,"word_count":62,"indexable":14},"27909","Para beneficiar al pequeño restaurante, al bar, a la panadería.",54.12,58.14,9,{"idx":64,"utterance_id":65,"speaker_name":25,"text":66,"start_s":67,"end_s":68,"word_count":69,"indexable":14},8,"27910","El pequeño mercado, la tiendita del barrio, los supermercados que podrán reducir las tasas de pago.",58.78,66.82,17,{"idx":62,"utterance_id":71,"speaker_name":25,"text":72,"start_s":73,"end_s":74,"word_count":64,"indexable":14},"27911","Hoy las empresas, señor Presidente, cobran hasta un 10%.",67.36,71.32,{"idx":76,"utterance_id":77,"speaker_name":25,"text":78,"start_s":74,"end_s":79,"word_count":38,"indexable":14},10,"27912","10% de la tasa principal.",73.72,{"idx":81,"utterance_id":82,"speaker_name":25,"text":83,"start_s":84,"end_s":85,"word_count":64,"indexable":14},11,"27913","Pero están las tasas accesorias de las que hablan.",73.98,76.98,{"idx":87,"utterance_id":88,"speaker_name":25,"text":89,"start_s":90,"end_s":91,"word_count":45,"indexable":14},12,"27914","En la renovación, en la cuota anual, todo eso.",77.6,80.38,{"idx":93,"utterance_id":94,"speaker_name":25,"text":95,"start_s":96,"end_s":97,"word_count":52,"indexable":14},13,"27915","Entonces llega a más del 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alimenta.",102.96,107.18,{"idx":121,"utterance_id":122,"speaker_name":25,"text":123,"start_s":124,"end_s":125,"word_count":62,"indexable":14},18,"27920","Él va y ya pagó su cupón.",107.68,109.78,{"idx":36,"utterance_id":127,"speaker_name":25,"text":128,"start_s":129,"end_s":130,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},"27921","Es decir, ese restaurante... Lo presenta para cobrar a esas cuatro empresas que son el gran oligopolio.",110.66,117.8,{"idx":132,"utterance_id":133,"speaker_name":25,"text":134,"start_s":135,"end_s":136,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},20,"27922","Ellas tardan hasta 30 días en transferir el dinero que recibieron.",118.4,121.9,{"idx":13,"utterance_id":138,"speaker_name":25,"text":139,"start_s":140,"end_s":141,"word_count":93,"indexable":14},"27923","Porque la empresa empleadora, cuando contrata el cupón de alimentación, paga por adelantado.",122.44,128.66,{"idx":103,"utterance_id":143,"speaker_name":25,"text":144,"start_s":145,"end_s":146,"word_count":93,"indexable":14},"27924","Por lo tanto, ellos reciben por adelantado y tardan 30 días en transferirlo al restaurante.",129.4,134.16,{"idx":148,"utterance_id":149,"speaker_name":25,"text":150,"start_s":151,"end_s":152,"word_count":105,"indexable":14},23,"27925","Entonces, esto es un problema serio, una gran queja de todos los pequeños restaurantes.",134.54,140.86,{"idx":154,"utterance_id":155,"speaker_name":25,"text":156,"start_s":157,"end_s":158,"word_count":64,"indexable":14},24,"27926","que termina siendo sacrificado por esas cuatro empresas.",141.32,144.32,{"idx":160,"utterance_id":161,"speaker_name":25,"text":162,"start_s":163,"end_s":164,"word_count":105,"indexable":14},25,"27927","Esa es la razón por la que no quieren abrir ese llamado arreglo cerrado.",145,149.88,{"idx":166,"utterance_id":167,"speaker_name":25,"text":168,"start_s":169,"end_s":170,"word_count":121,"indexable":14},26,"27928","Porque con el arreglo cerrado acaban esclavizando al pequeño comerciante para cumplir las reglas que imponen.",150.48,157.96,{"idx":172,"utterance_id":173,"speaker_name":25,"text":174,"start_s":175,"end_s":176,"word_count":69,"indexable":14},27,"27929","Con este decreto, usted conseguirá que eso se abra, que la competencia llegue y aporte transparencia.",158.76,165.2,{"idx":178,"utterance_id":179,"speaker_name":25,"text":180,"start_s":181,"end_s":182,"word_count":69,"indexable":14},28,"27930","y la competencia dará lugar a un proceso que puede, incluso, ser inferior al 3,6%.",165.74,172.8,{"idx":184,"utterance_id":185,"speaker_name":25,"text":186,"start_s":182,"end_s":187,"word_count":76,"indexable":14},29,"27931","El 3,6% es la tasa máxima, todo tiene que caber aquí.",175.34,{"idx":189,"utterance_id":190,"speaker_name":25,"text":191,"start_s":192,"end_s":193,"word_count":62,"indexable":14},30,"27932","Señor Presidente, seguramente usted está haciendo un gran negocio.",175.5,178.76,{"idx":195,"utterance_id":196,"speaker_name":25,"text":197,"start_s":198,"end_s":199,"word_count":200,"indexable":14},31,"27933","Pero estamos aquí, además de nuestro ministro, el ministro Rui Costa, Dario Nascatari de Hacienda, el ministro Haddad, nuestro vicepresidente Alckmin, nuestros compañeros que nos acompañan, y está aquí João Galassi, que es presidente de Abra de Supermercados.",179.24,194.16,40,{"idx":202,"utterance_id":203,"speaker_name":25,"text":204,"start_s":205,"end_s":206,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},32,"27934","Me hubiera gustado que hubiera más personas aquí, pero João tal vez pueda dar un testimonio desde el punto de vista del restaurante, del pequeño mercado, sobre lo que sucederá con este decreto que V. Ex.ª está firmando en este momento.",194.76,206.92,{"idx":208,"utterance_id":209,"speaker_name":25,"text":210,"start_s":211,"end_s":212,"word_count":31,"indexable":14},33,"27935","Muchas gracias, señor Presidente.",206.98,207.84,{"idx":214,"utterance_id":215,"speaker_name":25,"text":216,"start_s":217,"end_s":218,"word_count":31,"indexable":14},34,"27936","João, con usted.",208.16,208.62,{"idx":220,"utterance_id":221,"speaker_name":25,"text":222,"start_s":223,"end_s":224,"word_count":154,"indexable":14},35,"27937","Bueno, señor Presidente, a todos los ministros presentes, a todos los compañeros, primero quería agradecer mucho, señor Presidente, porque hoy usted redujo la intermediación.",210.8,221.5,{"idx":226,"utterance_id":227,"speaker_name":25,"text":228,"start_s":229,"end_s":230,"word_count":62,"indexable":14},36,"27938","y aumentó la alimentación del pueblo brasileño, del trabajador.",222.2,225.5,{"idx":232,"utterance_id":233,"speaker_name":25,"text":234,"start_s":235,"end_s":236,"word_count":237,"indexable":14},37,"27939","A partir de hoy, tendremos, en cuanto se reduzcan las tasas para los pequeños mercados, para los mercados medianos, y se reduzca el plazo de reembolso, tendremos condiciones para competir mejor, tendremos condiciones para trasladar mejores precios a los consumidores, y así, señor Presidente, atender la demanda en la que usted siempre trabajó, que es exactamente... atender la demanda de alimentación del pueblo brasileño.",226.34,254.28,65,{"idx":239,"utterance_id":240,"speaker_name":25,"text":241,"start_s":242,"end_s":243,"word_count":244,"indexable":14},38,"27940","Y usted ha realizado un trabajo increíble en esta área, y hoy usted ha introducido un cambio histórico, porque todos los mercaderistas brasileños hoy aplaudirán de pie, los pequeños restaurantes aplaudirán de pie este cambio que usted hizo.",254.98,275.24,41,{"idx":43,"utterance_id":246,"speaker_name":25,"text":247,"start_s":248,"end_s":249,"word_count":250,"indexable":14},"27941","Usted aún no tiene la dimensión... de cuánto esto es importante para el sector de supermercados, para el consumidor brasileño, porque hoy debemos trasladar esas tasas absurdas, violentas, de esa ganancia fácil, de ese vicio de la ganancia fácil de esas cuatro empresas, debemos trasladarlas al precio de los alimentos para poder reembolsarlas, esa vergonzosa rueda financiera.",275.3,304,55,{"idx":200,"utterance_id":252,"speaker_name":25,"text":253,"start_s":254,"end_s":255,"word_count":64,"indexable":14},"27942","Y hoy usted está cambiando esa historia.",304.76,307.1,{"idx":244,"utterance_id":257,"speaker_name":25,"text":258,"start_s":259,"end_s":260,"word_count":202,"indexable":14},"27943","trayendo una tasa tope, con todas las tasas que hoy este personal cobra más de 16 tipos, 17 tipos de tarifas y tasas, que usted hoy está resolviendo con este decreto.",307.56,319.7,{"idx":262,"utterance_id":263,"speaker_name":25,"text":264,"start_s":265,"end_s":266,"word_count":166,"indexable":14},42,"27944","Entonces usted puede estar seguro de que a partir de hoy tenemos aquí un compromiso con usted de homenajearlo como supermercadista honorario del sector.",320.14,333.34,{"idx":268,"utterance_id":269,"speaker_name":25,"text":270,"start_s":271,"end_s":272,"word_count":202,"indexable":14},43,"27945","por todo lo que usted ha hecho, así como los ministros que trabajaron en esta demanda, el ministro Marinho, el ministro Haddad, el ministro Geraldo Alckmin, el ministro Rui Costa y todos los que acompañaron este movimiento.",333.92,347.36,{"idx":274,"utterance_id":275,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":276,"start_s":277,"end_s":278,"word_count":76,"indexable":14},44,"27946","¿Hasta cuánto llegan a cobrar estas empresas en tasas?",349.74,352.7,{"idx":280,"utterance_id":281,"speaker_name":25,"text":282,"start_s":283,"end_s":284,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},45,"27947","Señor Presidente, las tasas efectivas de estas empresas superan el 15%, superan el 20%.",353.26,359.92,{"idx":286,"utterance_id":287,"speaker_name":25,"text":288,"start_s":289,"end_s":290,"word_count":38,"indexable":14},46,"27948","Es una explotación... Demasiado.",360.32,363.06,{"idx":292,"utterance_id":293,"speaker_name":25,"text":294,"start_s":295,"end_s":296,"word_count":38,"indexable":14},47,"27949","¿Y además, no es así, señor Presidente?",363.22,364.18,{"idx":298,"utterance_id":299,"speaker_name":25,"text":300,"start_s":301,"end_s":302,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},48,"27950","Ahora, con arreglo abierto, todos los mercados en Brasil aceptarán el vale de alimentación y de comida.",364.28,372.42,{"idx":304,"utterance_id":305,"speaker_name":25,"text":306,"start_s":307,"end_s":308,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},49,"27951","Todos.",372.62,373.06,{"idx":310,"utterance_id":311,"speaker_name":25,"text":312,"start_s":313,"end_s":314,"word_count":31,"indexable":14},50,"27952","Pequeños, mínimos, todo.",373.32,374.94,{"idx":316,"utterance_id":317,"speaker_name":25,"text":318,"start_s":319,"end_s":320,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},51,"27953","Entonces el pueblo brasileño tendrá más acceso a toda esa cadena de abastecimiento en el país.",375.32,381.74,{"idx":322,"utterance_id":323,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":324,"start_s":325,"end_s":326,"word_count":189,"indexable":14},52,"27954","Y una cosa, usted dijo y Marinho también dijo lo siguiente: cuando el ciudadano paga su comida, ¿cuánto tiempo tarda el restaurante en recibir de esa empresa, del oligopolio?",382.84,395.82,{"idx":328,"utterance_id":329,"speaker_name":25,"text":330,"start_s":331,"end_s":332,"word_count":105,"indexable":14},53,"27955","Mire, es muy interesante, ¿no, señor Presidente?, que su plazo es un plazo loco, ¿no?",396.6,400.82,{"idx":334,"utterance_id":335,"speaker_name":25,"text":336,"start_s":337,"end_s":338,"word_count":132,"indexable":14},54,"27956","Porque, por ejemplo, cuando un supermercado o un restaurante recibe ese cupón de alimentación, necesita transformar eso en dinero, ¿no?",401.16,407.92,{"idx":250,"utterance_id":340,"speaker_name":25,"text":341,"start_s":342,"end_s":343,"word_count":52,"indexable":14},"27957","Porque recibió un papel, ¿no?",407.96,409.38,{"idx":345,"utterance_id":346,"speaker_name":25,"text":347,"start_s":348,"end_s":349,"word_count":62,"indexable":14},56,"27958","En la primera semana, señor Presidente, está la línea de corte.",410.98,413.38,{"idx":351,"utterance_id":352,"speaker_name":25,"text":353,"start_s":354,"end_s":355,"word_count":81,"indexable":14},57,"27959","Entonces, por ejemplo, usted vende el lunes, el día de corte.",413.42,415.76,{"idx":357,"utterance_id":358,"speaker_name":25,"text":359,"start_s":360,"end_s":361,"word_count":62,"indexable":14},58,"27960","Entonces pasan lunes, martes, miércoles, jueves, viernes, sábado, domingo.",415.8,419.62,{"idx":363,"utterance_id":364,"speaker_name":25,"text":365,"start_s":366,"end_s":367,"word_count":52,"indexable":14},59,"27961","Ahí empieza a contarse el plazo.",420.18,421.96,{"idx":369,"utterance_id":370,"speaker_name":25,"text":371,"start_s":372,"end_s":373,"word_count":62,"indexable":14},60,"27962","Entonces el plazo va de 30, 40, 50 días.",423.16,426.62,{"idx":375,"utterance_id":376,"speaker_name":25,"text":377,"start_s":378,"end_s":379,"word_count":121,"indexable":14},61,"27963","Entonces se imagina: vendí un producto hoy, dentro de casi 60 días volveré a recibir ese importe.",426.92,434.42,{"idx":381,"utterance_id":382,"speaker_name":25,"text":383,"start_s":384,"end_s":385,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},62,"27964","Y además, ¿eh, señor Presidente?, para que estas pequeñas y medianas empresas acepten ese cupón, es casi suplicarlo por el amor de Dios.",434.54,440.1,{"idx":387,"utterance_id":388,"speaker_name":25,"text":389,"start_s":390,"end_s":391,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},63,"27965","Tiene que ir allí, inscribirse en un registro, ellos se lo envían.",440.16,443.56,{"idx":393,"utterance_id":394,"speaker_name":25,"text":395,"start_s":396,"end_s":397,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},64,"27966","No habla con nadie, es todo telemarketing, es todo no sé qué.",443.6,446.24,{"idx":237,"utterance_id":399,"speaker_name":25,"text":400,"start_s":401,"end_s":402,"word_count":64,"indexable":14},"27967","Y al final nadie tiene acceso a nada.",446.94,448.82,{"idx":404,"utterance_id":405,"speaker_name":25,"text":406,"start_s":407,"end_s":408,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},66,"27968","A lo que tenemos acceso es a una tasa abusiva, extorsiva, que destruye, que genera un coste adicional en la mesa del trabajador.",449.14,458.9,{"idx":410,"utterance_id":411,"speaker_name":25,"text":412,"start_s":413,"end_s":414,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},67,"27969","Y a partir de ahora, ese costo ya no existirá más, a partir de este movimiento.",459.36,464.14,{"idx":416,"utterance_id":417,"speaker_name":25,"text":418,"start_s":419,"end_s":420,"word_count":52,"indexable":14},68,"27970","Es evidente que aún tendremos un costo.",464.24,465.76,{"idx":422,"utterance_id":423,"speaker_name":25,"text":424,"start_s":425,"end_s":426,"word_count":239,"indexable":14},69,"27971","Y es evidente que seguiremos luchando, entre otras banderas, como el ministro Haddad siempre dijo, llevar esto mediante la regulación aún por parte del Banco Central, que sigue siendo una petición nuestra, para que haya cada vez más control.",466.28,479.26,{"idx":428,"utterance_id":429,"speaker_name":25,"text":430,"start_s":431,"end_s":432,"word_count":69,"indexable":14},70,"27972","Pero creo que con este cambio del arreglo abierto, tendremos garantía de cobro, presidente.",479.32,485.3,{"idx":434,"utterance_id":435,"speaker_name":25,"text":436,"start_s":437,"end_s":438,"word_count":45,"indexable":14},71,"27973","Tendremos tasas más bajas.",485.9,487.5,{"idx":440,"utterance_id":441,"speaker_name":25,"text":442,"start_s":443,"end_s":444,"word_count":132,"indexable":14},72,"27974","Vamos a atender la demanda de todos los pequeños mercados en Brasil, de todas las pequeñas y medianas empresas en Brasil.",488.04,494.72,{"idx":446,"utterance_id":447,"speaker_name":25,"text":448,"start_s":449,"end_s":450,"word_count":62,"indexable":14},73,"27975","Y cabe destacar: las grandes empresas también pagan hoy tasas abusivas.",495.78,501.98,{"idx":452,"utterance_id":453,"speaker_name":25,"text":454,"start_s":455,"end_s":456,"word_count":160,"indexable":14},74,"27976","Además, usted dio ahora la oportunidad —hablando de su mercado— para que las demás empresas puedan participar.",502.78,512.16,{"idx":458,"utterance_id":459,"speaker_name":25,"text":460,"start_s":461,"end_s":462,"word_count":121,"indexable":14},75,"27977","Porque hoy, con 80, 90% de participación de esas cuatro empresas, las otras no tienen cómo competir, Minas Gerais.",513.06,518.88,{"idx":464,"utterance_id":465,"speaker_name":25,"text":466,"start_s":467,"end_s":468,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},76,"27978","Ahora las tendrán, porque ahora todas tendrán la misma base 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