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bienvenidos a todo el público de TV 247.",4.7,6.92,9,false,{"idx":76,"utterance_id":77,"speaker_name":69,"text":78,"start_s":79,"end_s":80,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1,"80682","Es una gran alegría recibir a la exministra Simone Tebet, candidata al Senado por el Estado de São Paulo.",7.78,14.54,17,{"idx":83,"utterance_id":84,"speaker_name":69,"text":85,"start_s":86,"end_s":87,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},2,"80683","Y aquí vamos a abordar varios temas: la candidatura propiamente dicha, su actuación en el gobierno Lula y las expectativas respecto al futuro.",15.1,22.42,24,{"idx":90,"utterance_id":91,"speaker_name":69,"text":92,"start_s":93,"end_s":94,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},3,"80684","Muchas gracias por la invitación, muchas gracias por estar aquí una vez más en TV 247.",22.9,26.5,15,{"idx":97,"utterance_id":98,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":101,"start_s":102,"end_s":103,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},4,"80685","Simone Tebet","simone-tebet","Gracias, 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proponiendo acción.",true,{"idx":302,"utterance_id":303,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":304,"start_s":305,"end_s":306,"word_count":251,"indexable":74},38,"80719","Entonces creo que soy política y soy lo que soy, no por mérito mío, sino por la familia que tuve y tengo y por la formación religiosa de mi madre.",174.86,186.48,{"idx":267,"utterance_id":308,"speaker_name":69,"text":309,"start_s":310,"end_s":311,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},"80720","¿Tu madre todavía vive o no?",186.9,187.82,{"idx":313,"utterance_id":314,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":315,"start_s":316,"end_s":317,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},40,"80721","Mi madre está viva, tiene 80 años y hoy me 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Ella es profesora de portugués, ¿no?",209.42,211.42,{"idx":335,"utterance_id":336,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":337,"start_s":338,"end_s":339,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},43,"80724","Y yo utilicé una palabra equivocada.",211.86,213.08,{"idx":341,"utterance_id":342,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":343,"start_s":344,"end_s":345,"word_count":198,"indexable":74},44,"80725","Ella dijo así: hija mía, sé que no estabas prestando atención, que sabes cómo se habla, ¿no?",213.14,218.38,{"idx":347,"utterance_id":348,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":349,"start_s":350,"end_s":351,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},45,"80726","Pero necesito corregirte, ¿no?",218.8,220.06,{"idx":353,"utterance_id":354,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":355,"start_s":356,"end_s":357,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},46,"80727","No es que yo... El tema es indignar, ¿no?",221.5,225.74,{"idx":359,"utterance_id":360,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":361,"start_s":362,"end_s":363,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},47,"80728","Entonces yo dije así, indigna, ¿no?",225.86,227.48,{"idx":365,"utterance_id":366,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":367,"start_s":368,"end_s":369,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},48,"80729","Y ella dijo que no es indigna.",227.9,230.7,{"idx":371,"utterance_id":372,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":373,"start_s":374,"end_s":375,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},49,"80730","Y entonces me corrigió, ¿no?",231.22,232.46,{"idx":377,"utterance_id":378,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":379,"start_s":380,"end_s":381,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},50,"80731","Muy fuertemente.",232.56,233.36,{"idx":324,"utterance_id":383,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":384,"start_s":385,"end_s":386,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},"80732","Yo dije, está bien, mamá, pero tienes un detalle: yo siempre dije esa palabra mal, no es que lo supiera, no, Fahirt.",233.42,238.78,{"idx":388,"utterance_id":389,"speaker_name":69,"text":390,"start_s":391,"end_s":392,"word_count":256,"indexable":74},52,"80733","Mandemos un saludo a la señora Fahirt, para que siempre vea a Zé Reinaldo Carvalho, que hace el Bom Dia 247, porque ese tiene un portugués impecable, la gente dice que habla un portugués correcto, yo siempre le hago broma.",238.82,250.06,{"idx":394,"utterance_id":395,"speaker_name":69,"text":396,"start_s":397,"end_s":398,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},53,"80734","¿Tu padre fue un político muy importante, el senador Rames Tebet, no?",250.64,253.92,{"idx":400,"utterance_id":401,"speaker_name":69,"text":402,"start_s":403,"end_s":404,"word_count":240,"indexable":74},54,"80735","Soy de la época en que él era una persona muy cercana al presidente Fernando Henrique, si no me equivoco, no sé si fue líder, presidente del Senado.",254.54,260.46,{"idx":406,"utterance_id":407,"speaker_name":69,"text":408,"start_s":409,"end_s":410,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},55,"80736","Fue ministro durante cuatro meses.",260.5,261.96,{"idx":412,"utterance_id":413,"speaker_name":69,"text":414,"start_s":415,"end_s":416,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},56,"80737","Ah, entonces fue ese período.",262.12,263.52,{"idx":418,"utterance_id":419,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":420,"start_s":421,"end_s":422,"word_count":423,"indexable":74},57,"80738","Y entonces pidió la exonera del ministerio para competir por la presidencia del Senado, porque había una pelea entre Sarney y Renan, que no se entendían; la silla era del MDB, y el presidente Fernando Henrique pidió que él pudiera ir al Senado para... para postularse a la presidencia del Senado, en una elección durísima; al final llegó a ser presidente del Senado después del episodio de Jader Barbalho, con una crisis interna que hubo allí.",264.12,288.68,75,{"idx":425,"utterance_id":426,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":427,"start_s":428,"end_s":429,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},58,"80739","Una guerra intensa.",288.72,289.52,{"idx":431,"utterance_id":432,"speaker_name":69,"text":433,"start_s":434,"end_s":435,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},59,"80740","Y Fernando Henrique pasó a sentir una gran admiración por él.",290.04,293.26,{"idx":437,"utterance_id":438,"speaker_name":69,"text":439,"start_s":440,"end_s":441,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},60,"80741","Recuerdo ese período.",293.32,294.78,{"idx":443,"utterance_id":444,"speaker_name":69,"text":445,"start_s":446,"end_s":447,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},61,"80742","¿Cuál fue su influencia en tu formación como política?",295.26,298.94,{"idx":449,"utterance_id":450,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":451,"start_s":452,"end_s":453,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},62,"80743","Es algo interesante, porque aun sin querer, terminé siguiendo los pasos de mi padre.",299.84,303.38,{"idx":455,"utterance_id":456,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":457,"start_s":458,"end_s":459,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},63,"80744","Estudié Derecho en la misma facultad que mi padre.",303.42,305.44,{"idx":461,"utterance_id":462,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":463,"start_s":464,"end_s":465,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},64,"80745","Hoy ya soy abogada, felicitaciones.",306.12,308.22,{"idx":467,"utterance_id":468,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":469,"start_s":470,"end_s":471,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},65,"80746","Sí, inclusive hoy grabé un video, en fin, ¿cómo va...?",308.32,312.18,{"idx":473,"utterance_id":474,"speaker_name":69,"text":475,"start_s":476,"end_s":477,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},66,"80747","Estamos grabando el 11 de agosto.",312.5,313.32,{"idx":479,"utterance_id":480,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":481,"start_s":482,"end_s":483,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},67,"80748","Estamos grabando el 11 de agosto; saldrá recién el sábado, así que ya habré dado por las redes sociales aquí mi reconocimiento a una clase que, pues, sufre mucho, ¿no?",313.44,324.78,{"idx":485,"utterance_id":486,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":487,"start_s":488,"end_s":489,"word_count":119,"topic_slug":490,"topic_label":491,"target_id":492,"target_proposition":493,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":494,"indexable":74},68,"80749","Tenemos la obligación de defender a todos.",326.02,327.94,"direitos-humanos","Derechos Humanos","21f5f7c5-ea54-4679-b242-8d0d6e4f6fd0","asegurar respeto y preservación de derechos para todas las personas","Afirma la obligación de 'defender a todos' y de proteger a los ciudadanos.",{"idx":496,"utterance_id":497,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":498,"start_s":499,"end_s":500,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":40,"topic_label":37,"target_id":501,"target_proposition":502,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":504,"indexable":300},69,"80750","La justicia la tenemos que garantizar a cualquier ciudadano.",328.02,330.38,"eb275ecc-b230-4849-a46f-b446f75802e6","garantizar acceso efectivo a recursos judiciales y revisión procesal",0.9,"Afirma explícitamente 'Justiça a gente tem que garantir a qualquer cidadão'.",{"idx":506,"utterance_id":507,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":508,"start_s":509,"end_s":510,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":40,"topic_label":37,"target_id":511,"target_proposition":512,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":513,"indexable":300},70,"80751","Nadie es culpable antes de que haya una sentencia firme.",330.44,332.86,"04fe842c-a1f5-490e-81c5-1c9f11985fda","garantizar la presunción de inocencia","Dice 'Ninguém é culpado antes de trânsito em julgado', defendiendo la presunción.",{"idx":515,"utterance_id":516,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":517,"start_s":518,"end_s":519,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},71,"80752","Pero por eso, a veces, se paga un precio, ¿no?",333.24,335.56,{"idx":521,"utterance_id":522,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":523,"start_s":524,"end_s":525,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},72,"80753","Por estar ahí en la primera línea.",336.06,338.2,{"idx":527,"utterance_id":528,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":529,"start_s":530,"end_s":531,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},73,"80754","Entonces mi homenaje a todos los abogados y abogadas de Brasil.",338.24,340.88,{"idx":533,"utterance_id":534,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":535,"start_s":536,"end_s":537,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},74,"80755","Y volviendo, estábamos hablando de mi padre.",341.5,344.84,{"idx":423,"utterance_id":539,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":540,"start_s":541,"end_s":542,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},"80756","Terminé yendo a la facultad.",346.14,347.14,{"idx":544,"utterance_id":545,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":546,"start_s":547,"end_s":548,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},76,"80757","Derecho en la misma facultad que mi padre.",347.22,348.78,{"idx":550,"utterance_id":551,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":552,"start_s":553,"end_s":554,"word_count":27,"indexable":74},77,"80758","Volví a Mato Grosso do Sul, hice una posgraduación, mi padre iba a ser candidato al Senado; él dijo: hija mía, necesito que tú... me reemplaces temporalmente en algunas clases, ya hay una posgrado.",349.44,359.16,{"idx":556,"utterance_id":557,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":558,"start_s":559,"end_s":560,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},78,"80759","Es solo para entregar pruebas, corregir y dar algunas clases.",359.54,362.1,{"idx":562,"utterance_id":563,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":564,"start_s":565,"end_s":566,"word_count":269,"indexable":74},79,"80760","Y a los alumnos les gustó tanto que cuando él fue elegido, en lugar de pasar la posta a otro profesor, el rector de la universidad dijo: mira, los alumnos quieren que tú des clases.",362.76,372.76,{"idx":568,"utterance_id":569,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":570,"start_s":571,"end_s":572,"word_count":313,"indexable":74},80,"80761","Y terminé empezando mi vida pública dentro de esa cátedra; di clase durante 12 años en todas las universidades de Mato Grosso do Sul, di Derecho administrativo, cómo se administra una ciudad, un estado, un país.",373.24,383.9,{"idx":574,"utterance_id":575,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":576,"start_s":577,"end_s":578,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},81,"80762","Entonces, creo que ahí empezó un poco... un poco mi",384.22,386.04,{"idx":580,"utterance_id":581,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":582,"start_s":583,"end_s":584,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},82,"80763","así mi vena política y los alumnos porque yo daba clases.",386.92,390.76,{"idx":586,"utterance_id":587,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":588,"start_s":589,"end_s":590,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},83,"80764","empecé a dar clases muy joven.",390.82,392.24,{"idx":592,"utterance_id":593,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":594,"start_s":595,"end_s":596,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},84,"80765","entré en la universidad con 16, salí con 20 a 21; hice una posgraduación con 22 años.",392.4,397.28,{"idx":598,"utterance_id":599,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":600,"start_s":601,"end_s":602,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},85,"80766","estaba en el aula en el último año de Derecho.",397.34,400.22,{"idx":604,"utterance_id":605,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":606,"start_s":607,"end_s":608,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},86,"80767","entonces los alumnos eran más jóvenes, disculpa, más viejos que yo y los alumnos empezaron a buscar a mi padre servidores públicos.",400.54,407.16,{"idx":610,"utterance_id":611,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":612,"start_s":613,"end_s":614,"word_count":251,"indexable":74},87,"80768","mira, tu hija tiene vena política y mi padre trató de convencerme de entrar en la vida pública; tardó cuatro años en convencerme de entrar en la vida pública.",407.34,415.86,{"idx":616,"utterance_id":617,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":618,"start_s":619,"end_s":620,"word_count":377,"indexable":74},88,"80769","Yo dije: mira padre, voy a intentarlo, sí; si no me gusta, porque me gusta hacer política de otra manera, yo soy de la generación directa ya, con 15 años cargué un cartel, quería votar para presidente de la república, por eso creo que tengo esto.",415.92,426.54,{"idx":622,"utterance_id":623,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":624,"start_s":625,"end_s":626,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},89,"80770","mucho de la democracia, de la soberanía, algo muy fuerte en mi vida.",426.6,429.64,{"idx":628,"utterance_id":629,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":630,"start_s":631,"end_s":632,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},90,"80771","Y entonces empecé como diputada estadual, y di todos los pasos de mi padre.",430.94,435.52,{"idx":634,"utterance_id":635,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":636,"start_s":637,"end_s":638,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},91,"80772","¿Cuándo fue tu primer mandato?",435.64,436.94,{"idx":640,"utterance_id":641,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":642,"start_s":643,"end_s":644,"word_count":292,"indexable":74},92,"80773","Fui diputada estadual en 2003 y 2004; luego me elegí intendenta, primera mujer intendenta de mi ciudad natal, que está en la frontera aquí con el estado de São Paulo, prácticamente en el noroeste paulista, Três Lagoas.",437.82,452.62,{"idx":646,"utterance_id":647,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":648,"start_s":649,"end_s":650,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},93,"80774","Fui reelegida intendenta; a la mitad del mandato tuve que renunciar, porque el entonces gobernador me necesitó para ser la primera mujer vicegobernadora.",453.32,462.68,{"idx":652,"utterance_id":653,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":654,"start_s":655,"end_s":656,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},94,"80775","Me presenté como candidata en su lista porque la región, él estaba muy débil.",463.42,467.8,{"idx":658,"utterance_id":659,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":660,"start_s":661,"end_s":662,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},95,"80776","Así que renuncié a la ciudad que tenía la tercera mayor caja financiera del Estado.",468.18,473.3,{"idx":664,"utterance_id":665,"speaker_name":69,"text":666,"start_s":667,"end_s":668,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},96,"80777","Que se convirtió en la capital mundial de la celulosa.",473.84,475.34,{"idx":670,"utterance_id":671,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":666,"start_s":672,"end_s":673,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},97,"80778",475.4,477.42,{"idx":675,"utterance_id":676,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":677,"start_s":678,"end_s":679,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},98,"80779","Y entonces me convertí en la primera mujer vicegobernadora de mi estado.",477.64,480.38,{"idx":681,"utterance_id":682,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":683,"start_s":684,"end_s":685,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},99,"80780","Después me convertí en senadora de la República.",481.24,483.22,{"idx":687,"utterance_id":688,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":689,"start_s":690,"end_s":691,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},100,"80781","Y dentro del Senado, ya había sido secretaria de Estado de Gobierno también.",483.36,486.5,{"idx":693,"utterance_id":694,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":695,"start_s":696,"end_s":697,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},101,"80782","Dentro del Senado, tuve algunas primeras veces así en mi vida.",487,491,{"idx":699,"utterance_id":700,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":701,"start_s":702,"end_s":703,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},102,"80783","En 2015.",492.12,492.64,{"idx":705,"utterance_id":706,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":707,"start_s":708,"end_s":709,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":710,"topic_label":711,"target_id":712,"target_proposition":713,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":714,"rationale":715,"indexable":300},103,"80784","En 2015 votamos la ley del feminicidio.",492.88,494.88,"violencia-contra-a-mulher-e-protecao-as-mulheres","Violencia contra la mujer y protección","c6f44e20-743c-46fe-bbf0-f8221ece0139","aprobar legislación que tipifica el feminicidio",0.78,"Relata 'a gente votou a lei do feminicídio', reivindicando la acción legislativa.",{"idx":717,"utterance_id":718,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":719,"start_s":720,"end_s":721,"word_count":124,"topic_slug":710,"topic_label":711,"target_id":722,"target_proposition":723,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":714,"rationale":724,"indexable":300},104,"80785","En 2015 se creó por primera vez la Comisión de Combate a la Violencia contra la Mujer del Congreso Nacional.",495.36,500.64,"c7f8b869-0220-44c5-b847-578036de2e25","crear y mantener la Comisión contra la Violencia hacia la Mujer en el Congreso Nacional","Afirma la creación de la comisión y su papel pionero en el Congreso.",{"idx":726,"utterance_id":727,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":728,"start_s":729,"end_s":730,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},105,"80786","Es una comisión mixta.",500.8,501.7,{"idx":732,"utterance_id":733,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":734,"start_s":735,"end_s":736,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},106,"80787","Fui la primera mujer en presidir, la primera presidenta de la comisión.",501.86,505.44,{"idx":738,"utterance_id":739,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":740,"start_s":741,"end_s":742,"word_count":292,"indexable":74},107,"80788","Fui la primera mujer en presidir la comisión más importante del Senado, que es la Comisión de Constitución y Justicia, por donde pasan enmiendas constitucionales, algunas reformas, el marco legal del saneamiento; pasó por allí en su momento.",505.94,518.3,{"idx":744,"utterance_id":745,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":746,"start_s":747,"end_s":748,"word_count":251,"indexable":74},108,"80789","Fui la primera líder de la bancada del MDB, lo digo siempre en femenino, la primera líder de la bancada femenina y creo que ahí hubo cierta proyección.",519.26,528.42,{"idx":750,"utterance_id":751,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":752,"start_s":753,"end_s":754,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},109,"80790","Creo que dos episodios fueron importantes en mi vida.",528.56,531.2,{"idx":756,"utterance_id":757,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":758,"start_s":759,"end_s":760,"word_count":251,"indexable":74},110,"80791","Y siempre me gusta hablar de eso para quienes nos acompañan, porque tenemos una cultura occidental de que tenemos que entrar en la disputa solo para ganar.",531.62,537.92,{"idx":762,"utterance_id":763,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":764,"start_s":765,"end_s":766,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},111,"80792","Muy distinto a lo que pienso: Oriente, etc.",538.86,540.74,{"idx":768,"utterance_id":769,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":770,"start_s":771,"end_s":772,"word_count":21,"indexable":74},112,"80793","Digo que las veces en que más gané en mi vida fueron cuando tuve el coraje de enfrentar sabiendo que iba a perder.",541.1,546.74,{"idx":774,"utterance_id":775,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":776,"start_s":777,"end_s":778,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":779,"target_proposition":780,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":781,"indexable":300},113,"80794","Una de ellas fue cuando quise denunciar el presupuesto secreto.",547.28,550.02,"cf053de3-2fc2-420b-9feb-af4d3d2e32f1","acabar con el presupuesto secreto y aumentar la transparencia de los gastos públicos","Dice haber denunciado el 'orçamento secreto' que 'mata o país' y desvincula fondos públicos.",{"idx":783,"utterance_id":784,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":785,"start_s":786,"end_s":787,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},114,"80795","Sabía que se estaba matando al país.",550.44,551.86,{"idx":789,"utterance_id":790,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":791,"start_s":792,"end_s":793,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},115,"80796","Es un dinero que se va por el desagüe, corrupción.",551.98,553.86,{"idx":795,"utterance_id":796,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":797,"start_s":798,"end_s":799,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},116,"80797","Esa es la verdadera corrupción.",554.04,555.1,{"idx":801,"utterance_id":802,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":803,"start_s":804,"end_s":805,"word_count":267,"indexable":74},117,"80798","No se ve el color del dinero; llega allí, impidiendo que el dinero vaya al puesto de salud, a mi hogar, a mi vida, a la farmacia popular, a la ciencia, a la tecnología, en fin.",555.48,563.72,{"idx":807,"utterance_id":808,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":809,"start_s":810,"end_s":811,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},118,"80799","Y sabía que iba a perder, porque del otro lado estaba el presupuesto secreto.",564.44,567.44,{"idx":813,"utterance_id":814,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":815,"start_s":816,"end_s":817,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},119,"80800","Claro.",567.62,567.98,{"idx":819,"utterance_id":820,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":821,"start_s":822,"end_s":823,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},120,"80801","Y obtuve 21 votos.",568.28,569.46,{"idx":825,"utterance_id":826,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":827,"start_s":828,"end_s":829,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},121,"80802","Y a partir de ahí... Pacheco, que era presidente, se vio obligado a prometer que iba a crear el liderazgo de la bancada femenina para conseguir el voto femenino en el Senado.",570.12,579.82,{"idx":831,"utterance_id":832,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":833,"start_s":834,"end_s":835,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},122,"80803","Y lo creó, tuvo razón; creó el liderazgo.",580.3,583.34,{"idx":837,"utterance_id":838,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":839,"start_s":840,"end_s":841,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},123,"80804","Las mujeres se reunieron y dijeron: \"Simone, gracias a usted, Pacheco prometió.\"",583.84,587.44,{"idx":843,"utterance_id":844,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":845,"start_s":846,"end_s":847,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},124,"80805","Entonces usted tiene que ser la primera líder de la bancada femenina.",587.88,590.02,{"idx":849,"utterance_id":850,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":851,"start_s":852,"end_s":853,"word_count":251,"indexable":74},125,"80806","No sabía que allí, al principio, en la situación de la pandemia, íbamos a tener una CPI (Comisión Parlamentaria de Investigación) de la pandemia y que los hombres, todos ellos, iban a designar solo hombres.",590.74,601.28,{"idx":855,"utterance_id":856,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":857,"start_s":858,"end_s":859,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},126,"80807","Porque el liderazgo de la bancada femenina se estaba constituyendo.",601.76,604.46,{"idx":861,"utterance_id":862,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":863,"start_s":864,"end_s":865,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},127,"80808","No teníamos derecho a tener miembros.",604.54,607.28,{"idx":867,"utterance_id":868,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":869,"start_s":870,"end_s":871,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},128,"80809","Y todos los partidos designaron para titulares y suplentes solo hombres.",607.86,611.52,{"idx":873,"utterance_id":874,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":875,"start_s":876,"end_s":877,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},129,"80810","Cuando miro, no había una mujer en una CPI (Comisión Parlamentaria de Investigación) que trate de la vida, de las vacunas, de los niños, de los ancianos.",611.96,618.1,{"idx":879,"utterance_id":880,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":881,"start_s":882,"end_s":883,"word_count":119,"topic_slug":884,"topic_label":885,"target_id":886,"target_proposition":887,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":888,"indexable":74},130,"80811","Entonces entré en la CPI (Comisión Parlamentaria de Investigación).",618.78,619.76,"representacao-politica","Representación política","04081347-0582-4bf0-8c7b-74acfa5cbafa","garantizar la participación femenina en las CPIs y comisiones","Relata que las mujeres fueron excluidas y que ella entró en la CPI (Comisión Parlamentaria de Investigación) para representar.",{"idx":890,"utterance_id":891,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":892,"start_s":893,"end_s":894,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},131,"80812","Ahí armamos un escándalo, con todo respeto a nuestras queridas baianas.",620.22,624,{"idx":896,"utterance_id":897,"speaker_name":69,"text":898,"start_s":899,"end_s":900,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},132,"80813","Usted se destacó mucho.",624.32,625.32,{"idx":902,"utterance_id":903,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":904,"start_s":905,"end_s":906,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},133,"80814","Y entonces comenzamos.",625.42,626.38,{"idx":62,"utterance_id":908,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":909,"start_s":910,"end_s":911,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},"80815","Además, creo que las mujeres tuvieron un protagonismo muy importante.",626.44,629.66,{"idx":913,"utterance_id":914,"speaker_name":69,"text":915,"start_s":916,"end_s":917,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},135,"80816","Sí, solo haciendo un paréntesis, una broma: mi suegro siempre decía, a veces ganar es perder, a veces perder es ganar, así que hay esa semejanza.",630.16,635.62,{"idx":919,"utterance_id":920,"speaker_name":69,"text":921,"start_s":922,"end_s":923,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},136,"80817","Somos muy parecidos, en algunos aspectos.",636.28,638.34,{"idx":925,"utterance_id":926,"speaker_name":69,"text":927,"start_s":928,"end_s":929,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},137,"80818","Casi de la misma edad, un año de diferencia.",638.56,641.9,{"idx":931,"utterance_id":932,"speaker_name":69,"text":933,"start_s":934,"end_s":935,"word_count":198,"indexable":74},138,"80819","Vi que usted se casó también un año antes, pero usted, me imagino que sea una persona muy familiar, ¿no?",642.52,647.24,{"idx":51,"utterance_id":937,"speaker_name":69,"text":938,"start_s":939,"end_s":940,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},"80820","Sus hijas, usted habla con mucha...",647.76,648.92,{"idx":942,"utterance_id":943,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":944,"start_s":945,"end_s":946,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},140,"80821","Casada desde hace 30 años, estuve de novios 7 años.",648.96,651.7,{"idx":948,"utterance_id":949,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":950,"start_s":951,"end_s":952,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},141,"80822","Llevo 37 años con mi marido.",651.78,652.94,{"idx":954,"utterance_id":955,"speaker_name":69,"text":956,"start_s":957,"end_s":958,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},142,"80823","Voy a cumplir 30 la semana que viene, entonces...",652.98,654.78,{"idx":960,"utterance_id":961,"speaker_name":69,"text":962,"start_s":963,"end_s":964,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},143,"80824","Creo que es más mérito de él que mío, por aguantarse a mí, ¿eh?",654.84,657.32,{"idx":966,"utterance_id":967,"speaker_name":69,"text":968,"start_s":969,"end_s":970,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},144,"80825","Entonces es más o menos el mismo período.",657.36,659.36,{"idx":972,"utterance_id":973,"speaker_name":69,"text":974,"start_s":975,"end_s":976,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},145,"80826","Y entonces usted habló de su actuación como constitucionalista y tal, pero muchas personas la veían\u002Fescuchaban así, ¿no?",659.98,667.54,{"idx":978,"utterance_id":979,"speaker_name":69,"text":980,"start_s":981,"end_s":982,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},146,"80827","Ah, ella es ruralista, ¿no?",668.04,669.06,{"idx":984,"utterance_id":985,"speaker_name":69,"text":986,"start_s":987,"end_s":988,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},147,"80828","Porque muchas personas... \"Ah, no, Simone es ruralista\" y tal.",669.7,672.26,{"idx":990,"utterance_id":991,"speaker_name":69,"text":992,"start_s":993,"end_s":994,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},148,"80829","Es decir, ¿cómo es ese lado terrateniente, del agro con usted?",672.3,676.48,{"idx":39,"utterance_id":996,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":997,"start_s":998,"end_s":999,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},"80830","Tengo propiedades rurales, no voy a negar mi esencia.",676.76,679.86,{"idx":1001,"utterance_id":1002,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1003,"start_s":1004,"end_s":1005,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},150,"80831","Creo que... ¿Qué le pasó a Brasil?",681.84,684.88,{"idx":1007,"utterance_id":1008,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1009,"start_s":1010,"end_s":1011,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},151,"80832","Creo que son prejuicios.",684.98,686.22,{"idx":1013,"utterance_id":1014,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1015,"start_s":1016,"end_s":1017,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},152,"80833","Como toda mi vida he sido una persona de centro, toda la vida fui más centroizquierda en la agenda de derechos humanos.",686.26,692.34,{"idx":1019,"utterance_id":1020,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1021,"start_s":1022,"end_s":1023,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},153,"80834","Porque, además, por principio religioso de mi madre, no puede ser diferente.",692.44,698.24,{"idx":1025,"utterance_id":1026,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1027,"start_s":1028,"end_s":1029,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},154,"80835","La iglesia católica predica mucho la fraternidad, la solidaridad.",698.5,701.68,{"idx":1031,"utterance_id":1032,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1033,"start_s":1034,"end_s":1035,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},155,"80836","Entonces no basta con ir a la iglesia y no practicarlo en el día a día.",701.72,705.42,{"idx":1037,"utterance_id":1038,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1039,"start_s":1040,"end_s":1041,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},156,"80837","Entonces eso siempre lo tengo.",705.9,707.4,{"idx":1043,"utterance_id":1044,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1045,"start_s":1046,"end_s":1047,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},157,"80838","Mi padre también tenía mucho eso.",707.48,708.76,{"idx":1049,"utterance_id":1050,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1051,"start_s":1052,"end_s":1053,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},158,"80839","Entonces, yo siempre tuve mucha sinergia con la izquierda, con la agenda de derechos sociales.",709.1,712.98,{"idx":1055,"utterance_id":1056,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1057,"start_s":1058,"end_s":1059,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},159,"80840","Eso para mí era muy claro.",713.46,714.52,{"idx":1061,"utterance_id":1062,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1063,"start_s":1064,"end_s":1065,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},160,"80841","En la agenda económica, tal vez un centroderecha.",714.84,717.54,{"idx":1067,"utterance_id":1068,"speaker_name":69,"text":1069,"start_s":1070,"end_s":1071,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},161,"80842","Liberal, pensamiento liberal.",718.68,719.82,{"idx":1073,"utterance_id":1074,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1075,"start_s":1076,"end_s":1077,"word_count":198,"indexable":74},162,"80843","Que también hay una diferencia en el liberalismo, porque creo que no podemos, mirando al futuro, matar el presente.",720.78,725.4,{"idx":1079,"utterance_id":1080,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1081,"start_s":1082,"end_s":1083,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},163,"80844","Nunca acepté, en nombre del niño que no ha nacido, matar el futuro del niño que está naciendo ahora.",725.56,730.36,{"idx":1085,"utterance_id":1086,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1087,"start_s":1088,"end_s":1089,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":1090,"topic_label":1091,"target_id":1092,"target_proposition":1093,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1094,"rationale":1095,"indexable":300},164,"80845","Así que jamás puedo, en nombre de un fiscal, quitarle cualquier derecho a un ciudadano que vive hoy y que lo necesita.",730.84,738.54,"politica-fiscal-e-social","Política Fiscal y Social","2c3a9ad1-05c6-41e6-ae2f-566ba31f9452","combinar políticas sociales con responsabilidad fiscal",0.82,"Afirma no aceptar 'tirar qualquer direito' en nombre del ajuste fiscal.",{"idx":1097,"utterance_id":1098,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1099,"start_s":1100,"end_s":1101,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},165,"80846","Y es posible que Brasil sea muy rico.",738.68,740.3,{"idx":1103,"utterance_id":1104,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1105,"start_s":1106,"end_s":1107,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},166,"80847","Los problemas de Brasil caben en el presupuesto brasileño.",741.24,743.64,{"idx":1109,"utterance_id":1110,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1111,"start_s":1112,"end_s":1113,"word_count":154,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":32,"target_id":1114,"target_proposition":1115,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":1116,"indexable":300},167,"80848","El problema es cortar desperdicios, fraudes, errores, dejar de comerse las piedras.",744.14,748.18,"2c057cb7-7f9d-4fb5-a396-d51336cb212a","reducir desperdicios, fraudes y gastos indebidos en el presupuesto público","Defiende recortar desperdicios, fraudes y excesos en el gasto público.",{"idx":1118,"utterance_id":1119,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1120,"start_s":1121,"end_s":1122,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},168,"80849","Parlamentarios, beneficios adjuntos, sueldos excesivos.",748.22,751.24,{"idx":1124,"utterance_id":1125,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1126,"start_s":1127,"end_s":1128,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},169,"80850","Entonces se puede gastar, recortar excesos.",751.44,754.78,{"idx":1130,"utterance_id":1131,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1132,"start_s":1133,"end_s":1134,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},170,"80851","Eso no es asunto de un fiscal, es de la esencia de la propia Constitución.",755.12,758.28,{"idx":1136,"utterance_id":1137,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1138,"start_s":1139,"end_s":1140,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},171,"80852","El dinero es público, no es mío.",758.38,760.04,{"idx":1142,"utterance_id":1143,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1144,"start_s":1145,"end_s":1146,"word_count":437,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1147,"target_proposition":1148,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":1149,"indexable":300},172,"80853","Entonces no puedo tener corrupción, no puedo meter dinero de enmiendas en el bolsillo, no puedo... ganar más que un ministro del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal), no puedo ganar cada mes 200, 300 mil en el servicio público; es posible que eso ocurra, y entonces, cuando se habla mucho de eso, creo que, ahí me culpo a mí misma.",760.12,777.36,"a76d77ef-8251-40cc-abc2-eb6853eda01d","investigar y castigar prácticas de corrupción en la administración pública","Critica la apropiación de enmiendas y ganancias indebidas en el servicio público.",{"idx":1151,"utterance_id":1152,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1153,"start_s":1154,"end_s":1155,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},173,"80854","Incluso la propia izquierda, creo, es de... Eso es.",777.4,780.22,{"idx":1157,"utterance_id":1158,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1159,"start_s":1160,"end_s":1161,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},174,"80855","Era así: o eres de izquierda o eres de derecha en Brasil.",780.36,782.4,{"idx":1163,"utterance_id":1164,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1165,"start_s":1166,"end_s":1167,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},175,"80856","Como si no pudieras tener diversos tonos de gris.",782.54,784.94,{"idx":1169,"utterance_id":1170,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1171,"start_s":1172,"end_s":1173,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},176,"80857","Como si no se pudiera transitar con tranquilidad.",785.48,788.04,{"idx":1175,"utterance_id":1176,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1177,"start_s":1178,"end_s":1179,"word_count":229,"indexable":74},177,"80858","Y creo que luego, Brasil se fue tanto hacia la extrema derecha, tanto hacia la extrema derecha, que creo que el campo democrático se amplió.",788.58,795.84,{"idx":45,"utterance_id":1181,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1182,"start_s":1183,"end_s":1184,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},"80859","Entonces hoy la gente me mira y dice 'no'.",795.88,797.98,{"idx":1186,"utterance_id":1187,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1188,"start_s":1189,"end_s":1190,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},179,"80860","Ella es del campo democrático, discute la soberanía, pone los derechos humanos y los derechos sociales al frente, aun teniendo una agenda un poco más fiscalista.",798.82,806.92,{"idx":1192,"utterance_id":1193,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1194,"start_s":1195,"end_s":1196,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},180,"80861","Pero, de nuevo, ese fiscal tiene N fiscales.",807.36,809.92,{"idx":1198,"utterance_id":1199,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1200,"start_s":1201,"end_s":1202,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},181,"80862","Jamás seré la fiscalista como Paulo Guedes, que venía con las tijeras en la mano y se quedaba ahí.",810,815.02,{"idx":1204,"utterance_id":1205,"speaker_name":69,"text":1206,"start_s":1207,"end_s":1208,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},182,"80863","Y vende todo.",815.18,816.34,{"idx":1210,"utterance_id":1211,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1212,"start_s":1213,"end_s":1214,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},183,"80864","Privatización.",816.76,817.54,{"idx":1216,"utterance_id":1217,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1218,"start_s":1219,"end_s":1220,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":1221,"topic_label":1222,"target_id":1223,"target_proposition":1224,"stance":1225,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":1226,"indexable":74},184,"80865","Fueron buenas las concesiones de carreteras en São Paulo, pero es pésima la privatización de la Sabesp, de la línea de tren, de la Enel.",818.18,825.82,"venda-de-patrimonio-publico","Venta de Patrimonio Público","671c0339-fc64-43bb-aa01-e80b45757b07","privatizar el Banco do Brasil","ambiguo","Elogia las concesiones pero critica las privatizaciones de Sabesp, líneas de tren y Enel.",{"idx":1228,"utterance_id":1229,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1230,"start_s":1231,"end_s":1232,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},185,"80866","Entonces, así... creo que la virtud siempre está en el medio, ¿no?",826.16,829.04,{"idx":1234,"utterance_id":1235,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1236,"start_s":1237,"end_s":1238,"word_count":198,"indexable":74},186,"80867","La privatización de la telefonía fue buena en la época de Fernando Henrique, pero la misma privatización de las ferrovías por Fernando Henrique fue un horror.",829.64,836.44,{"idx":1240,"utterance_id":1241,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1242,"start_s":1243,"end_s":1244,"word_count":347,"topic_slug":1245,"topic_label":1246,"target_id":1247,"target_proposition":1248,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1249,"rationale":1250,"indexable":300},187,"80868","Así hoy Brasil es el único país continental del mundo que no tiene ferrovías que lo atraviesen de norte a sur porque ya no están estatizadas y debido a la forma en que se practicó, sin ningún compromiso de la iniciativa privada con el desarrollo de Brasil.",836.88,851.1,"infraestrutura-e-saneamento","Infraestructura y saneamiento","ff7346ea-9ba0-4d07-8f73-4360cf66f6cb","expandir e integrar ferrocarriles nacionales",0.85,"Señala la ausencia de ferrovías integradas y critica el modelo que impidió su expansión.",{"idx":1252,"utterance_id":1253,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1254,"start_s":1255,"end_s":1256,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},188,"80869","Entonces, creo que esto, la Tux, creó eso.",851.86,854.8,{"idx":1258,"utterance_id":1259,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1260,"start_s":1261,"end_s":1262,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},189,"80870","En el pasado, era 880.",855,856.2,{"idx":11,"utterance_id":1264,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1265,"start_s":1266,"end_s":1267,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},"80871","Hoy, cambió mucho.",856.5,857.36,{"idx":1269,"utterance_id":1270,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1271,"start_s":1272,"end_s":1273,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},191,"80872","Entonces, no es que yo cambié.",857.42,858.44,{"idx":1275,"utterance_id":1276,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1277,"start_s":1278,"end_s":1279,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},192,"80873","Creo que la gente empezó a dejar un poco esa visión de lo que es ser de izquierda, de lo que es ser de derecha.",858.74,866.14,{"idx":1281,"utterance_id":1282,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1283,"start_s":1284,"end_s":1285,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},193,"80874","Y como soy una persona de centro y soy del agronegocio, pero tengo un... Estamos aquí en Perdizes, ¿no?",866.18,871.5,{"idx":1287,"utterance_id":1288,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1289,"start_s":1290,"end_s":1291,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},194,"80875","Estamos grabando aquí.",871.54,872.3,{"idx":1293,"utterance_id":1294,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1295,"start_s":1296,"end_s":1297,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},195,"80876","¿Puede decir que estamos grabando?",872.5,874.28,{"idx":1299,"utterance_id":1300,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1301,"start_s":1302,"end_s":1303,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},196,"80877","Estamos grabando en Perdizes.",874.32,875.46,{"idx":56,"utterance_id":1305,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1306,"start_s":1307,"end_s":1308,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},"80878","Por ejemplo, en la década de los 90, cuando algunos ni siquiera habían nacido, hice dos años de maestría.",875.54,881.36,{"idx":1310,"utterance_id":1311,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1312,"start_s":1313,"end_s":1314,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},198,"80879","aquí en la PUC en São Paulo.",881.48,882.96,{"idx":1316,"utterance_id":1317,"speaker_name":69,"text":1318,"start_s":1319,"end_s":1320,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},199,"80880","Aquí al lado.",883.22,883.72,{"idx":1322,"utterance_id":1323,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1324,"start_s":1325,"end_s":1326,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},200,"80881","Aquí al lado, en la calle Monte Alegre.",883.8,886.54,{"idx":1328,"utterance_id":1329,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1330,"start_s":1331,"end_s":1332,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},201,"80882","Nadie hablaba de derecho ambiental.",886.88,889.44,{"idx":1334,"utterance_id":1335,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1336,"start_s":1337,"end_s":1338,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},202,"80883","Hice la maestría en el área de urbanística ambiental, siendo del agronegocio, en la década de los 90.",889.9,897.06,{"idx":1340,"utterance_id":1341,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1342,"start_s":1343,"end_s":1344,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},203,"80884","Entonces, creo que hay algo de eso.",897.24,899.74,{"idx":1346,"utterance_id":1347,"speaker_name":69,"text":1348,"start_s":1349,"end_s":1350,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},204,"80885","Además, su compañera de fórmula aquí, Marina, en realidad ella... intenta mostrar esa idea de que la sostenibilidad es buena para el productor agrícola.",899.78,906.92,{"idx":1352,"utterance_id":1353,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1354,"start_s":1355,"end_s":1356,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":1357,"topic_label":1358,"target_id":1359,"target_proposition":1360,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":1361,"indexable":300},205,"80886","Pero lo es. Si no se preservan los manantiales, no se planta, no hay agua, no se cosecha, no hay ganancias ni se pone comida en la mesa del pueblo brasileño.",907,917.46,"politica-ambiental","Política ambiental","4818d60e-94c7-441a-b966-309d49787aa5","preservar manantiales y promover prácticas agrícolas sostenibles","Afirma que sin preservar los manantiales no hay cultivo ni producción agrícola.",{"idx":1363,"utterance_id":1364,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1365,"start_s":1366,"end_s":1367,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},206,"80887","Aunque la mayor parte, siempre lo dije, desde siempre, la mayor parte de los alimentos que producimos, el agro, el gran agro, exporta.",917.5,925.68,{"idx":1369,"utterance_id":1370,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1371,"start_s":1372,"end_s":1373,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},207,"80888","Quien realmente pone comida, al menos el 70%, porque la proteína animal ahí es el gran agro.",925.8,931.1,{"idx":1375,"utterance_id":1376,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1377,"start_s":1378,"end_s":1379,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},208,"80889","carne y tal.",931.88,932.46,{"idx":1381,"utterance_id":1382,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1383,"start_s":1384,"end_s":1385,"word_count":198,"indexable":74},209,"80890","Pero cuando hablamos de alimentos, hortifruti, hortalizas, en fin, el propio frijol, los alimentos básicos como la yuca, la papa, ¿no?",932.9,941.3,{"idx":1387,"utterance_id":1388,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1389,"start_s":1390,"end_s":1391,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":1392,"topic_label":1393,"target_id":1394,"target_proposition":1395,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":1396,"indexable":300},210,"80891","Quien pone comida en la mesa del pueblo brasileño es la agricultura familiar.",941.6,944.4,"agricultura-e-agronegocio","Agricultura y agronegocio","b3dd21fc-9d13-4dd2-9a62-3791d33ec090","fortalecer la agricultura","Afirma que la agricultura familiar 'coloca comida na mesa' — defensa explícita del sector.",{"idx":1398,"utterance_id":1399,"speaker_name":69,"text":1400,"start_s":1401,"end_s":1402,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},211,"80892","Es decir, ¿entonces nunca fuiste de la llamada bancada ruralista?",944.78,947.7,{"idx":1404,"utterance_id":1405,"speaker_name":69,"text":1406,"start_s":1407,"end_s":1408,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},212,"80893","Eres una persona que tiene propiedades, que defiende el agro, ¿pero te colocabas en la llamada bancada ruralista?",947.78,953.96,{"idx":1410,"utterance_id":1411,"speaker_name":69,"text":1412,"start_s":1413,"end_s":1414,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},213,"80894","En algunos momentos.",954.38,955.22,{"idx":1416,"utterance_id":1417,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1418,"start_s":1419,"end_s":1420,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},214,"80895","No, yo formaba parte del frente parlamentario para llevar sensatez al frente parlamentario.",955.26,959.32,{"idx":1422,"utterance_id":1423,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1424,"start_s":1425,"end_s":1426,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},215,"80896","Y creo que eso, la historia está ahí.",959.74,962.06,{"idx":1428,"utterance_id":1429,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1430,"start_s":1431,"end_s":1432,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":1433,"topic_label":1434,"target_id":1435,"target_proposition":1436,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":714,"rationale":1437,"indexable":300},216,"80897","Por ejemplo, conseguí por unanimidad aprobar un proyecto relativo a la demarcación de áreas indígenas.",962.6,969.88,"terras-indigenas","Tierras Indígenas","671cd6d3-2827-48af-b7aa-1199c6c493a0","regularizar y demarcar tierras indígenas y áreas marinas","Reivindica haber aprobado por unanimidad un proyecto sobre demarcación.",{"idx":1439,"utterance_id":1440,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1441,"start_s":1442,"end_s":1443,"word_count":726,"topic_slug":1357,"topic_label":1358,"target_id":1444,"target_proposition":1445,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":1446,"indexable":300},217,"80898","El gran problema de la demarcación de áreas indígenas, si preguntas a Soninha Guajajara, mi colega ministra, o a cualquier cacique de cualquier aldea en Brasil, yo conviví con varias, con la excepción de la Amazonía, porque no conozco la realidad de los pueblos originarios en la Amazonía, que son dos realidades muy distintas; allí no vale lo que voy a decir, porque allí es área pública y allí no procede indemnización, la tierra es de la Unión, por lo tanto es derecho de los pueblos originarios, punto final, no se puede minar, no es posible querer... ampliar el arco de la deforestación allí, porque tengo que preservar la selva amazónica.",970.92,1005.62,"918daaa3-b0f6-47ef-8845-ef7b78260ed2","implementar restricciones estrictas de preservación en la Amazonía","Dice 'não pode minerar' y pide preservar el bosque y limitar la deforestación.",{"idx":1448,"utterance_id":1449,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1450,"start_s":1451,"end_s":1452,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},218,"80899","Pero en el resto del país, como no hicimos la tarea cuando la Constitución fue promulgada en el 88, la Constitución dio cinco años para que demarquemos las áreas indígenas.",1005.7,1014.48,{"idx":1454,"utterance_id":1455,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1456,"start_s":1457,"end_s":1458,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},219,"80900","No demarcamos.",1014.96,1015.78,{"idx":1460,"utterance_id":1461,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1462,"start_s":1463,"end_s":1464,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":1433,"topic_label":1434,"target_id":1435,"target_proposition":1436,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":1465,"indexable":74},220,"80901","Hubo una omisión del Estado brasileño.",1015.94,1017.52,"Critica la omisión del Estado y dice que el plazo constitucional no se cumplió — defiende la demarcación.",{"idx":1467,"utterance_id":1468,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1469,"start_s":1470,"end_s":1471,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},221,"80902","Tenía que haber hecho eso y no lo hizo.",1017.56,1018.98,{"idx":1473,"utterance_id":1474,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1475,"start_s":1476,"end_s":1477,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},222,"80903","Pasados otros cinco años, no lo hizo.",1019.42,1020.74,{"idx":1479,"utterance_id":1480,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1481,"start_s":1482,"end_s":1483,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},223,"80904","Pasados otros cinco, nos quedamos discutiendo la demarcación, el marco temporal.",1020.82,1024.14,{"idx":1485,"utterance_id":1486,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1487,"start_s":1488,"end_s":1489,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},224,"80905","Podríamos olvidar eso.",1024.46,1025.72,{"idx":1491,"utterance_id":1492,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1493,"start_s":1494,"end_s":1495,"word_count":229,"topic_slug":1433,"topic_label":1434,"target_id":1435,"target_proposition":1436,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":1496,"indexable":300},225,"80906","Y decir lo siguiente: en cualquier área que tenga un estudio antropológico, cualquier área que consiga confirmar que es de los pueblos originarios, simplemente se entregue a los pueblos originarios.",1026,1035.46,"Propone que las áreas comprobadas por estudio antropológico sean entregadas a los pueblos originarios.",{"idx":1498,"utterance_id":1499,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1500,"start_s":1501,"end_s":1502,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":1503,"topic_label":1504,"target_id":1505,"target_proposition":1506,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":1507,"indexable":300},226,"80907","Pero quien tiene buena fe, título y compró esa área y está produciendo desde hace 30 años y el terreno es productivo, se indemniza.",1035.7,1042.48,"regularizacao-fundiaria","Regularización fundiaria","dbaa0940-795e-4f19-b27b-f9ab1ae09bdd","indemnizar a propietarios de buena fe en procesos de demarcación de tierras indígenas","Defiende pagar indemnización (título de deuda pública) a quienes compraron de buena fe y producen desde hace décadas.",{"idx":1509,"utterance_id":1510,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1511,"start_s":1512,"end_s":1513,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},227,"80908","Se le paga con títulos de deuda pública y se efectúa la indemnización.",1042.58,1045.98,{"idx":1515,"utterance_id":1516,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1517,"start_s":1518,"end_s":1519,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},228,"80909","Si preguntas eso, de nuevo, fuera de las áreas consideradas públicas o de los ocupantes ilegales.",1046.72,1051.28,{"idx":17,"utterance_id":1521,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1522,"start_s":1523,"end_s":1524,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},"80910","Me refiero a alguien que compró, de buena fe, que está produciendo.",1051.78,1054.88,{"idx":1526,"utterance_id":1527,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1528,"start_s":1529,"end_s":1530,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},230,"80911","Conseguí aprobar por unanimidad.",1055.66,1057.84,{"idx":1532,"utterance_id":1533,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1534,"start_s":1535,"end_s":1536,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},231,"80912","El frente parlamentario se enojó conmigo, en el Senado, con apoyo de la red de sustentabilidad, con apoyo del PT (Partido de los Trabalhadores) en el Senado, cuando yo era senadora.",1058.18,1064.74,{"idx":1538,"utterance_id":1539,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1540,"start_s":1541,"end_s":1542,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},232,"80913","Cuando fui a la Cámara de Diputados, fui a negociar con el frente, el frente dijo así: no, Bolsonaro va a ganar y vamos a enterrar ese proyecto.",1064.84,1071.62,{"idx":1544,"utterance_id":1545,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1546,"start_s":1547,"end_s":1548,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},233,"80914","Y no lo llevaron adelante.",1071.72,1072.94,{"idx":1550,"utterance_id":1551,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1552,"start_s":1553,"end_s":1554,"word_count":198,"topic_slug":1433,"topic_label":1434,"target_id":1435,"target_proposition":1436,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1249,"rationale":1555,"indexable":300},234,"80915","Resumen de la ópera: apenas logramos hacer una, dos, tres demarcaciones de áreas indígenas por año en Brasil.",1073.36,1078.8,"Afirma que hoy se hacen una o pocas demarcaciones por año y que podríamos hacer 15 — petición clara de aceleración.",{"idx":1557,"utterance_id":1558,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1559,"start_s":1560,"end_s":1561,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},235,"80916","Podríamos estar haciendo 15.",1078.84,1080.26,{"idx":1563,"utterance_id":1564,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1565,"start_s":1566,"end_s":1567,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},236,"80917","Podríamos ya haber, en estos últimos años, resuelto ese problema.",1080.44,1084.58,{"idx":1569,"utterance_id":1570,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1571,"start_s":1572,"end_s":1573,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},237,"80918","De nuevo, no es... Es por justicia, es decir lo que está en la Constitución.",1084.86,1088.56,{"idx":1575,"utterance_id":1576,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1577,"start_s":1578,"end_s":1579,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},238,"80919","La Constitución no pensó que íbamos a hacer la tarea y no la hicimos.",1089.12,1093.4,{"idx":1581,"utterance_id":1582,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1583,"start_s":1584,"end_s":1585,"word_count":229,"indexable":74},239,"80920","Entonces, para aquellos que llevan 30 años, porque ahí es importante decir, cuando hacemos una demarcación, se toman tanto las grandes como las muy pequeñas.",1093.52,1101.78,{"idx":1587,"utterance_id":1588,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1589,"start_s":1590,"end_s":1591,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},240,"80921","Estamos hablando de personas que tienen ahí 20 alqueires, 30 alqueires, 50 alqueires, con familias que a veces se quedan en la calle.",1101.82,1108.28,{"idx":1593,"utterance_id":1594,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1595,"start_s":1596,"end_s":1597,"word_count":97,"topic_slug":1503,"topic_label":1504,"target_id":1505,"target_proposition":1506,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1598,"rationale":1599,"indexable":74},241,"80922","Entonces se indemniza, se retira.",1108.72,1109.92,0.86,"Dice explícitamente 'você indeniza' al tratar a pequeños propietarios afectados.",{"idx":1601,"utterance_id":1602,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1603,"start_s":1604,"end_s":1605,"word_count":182,"topic_slug":1433,"topic_label":1434,"target_id":1435,"target_proposition":1436,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":1606,"indexable":300},242,"80923","Si le preguntas a cualquier cacique, él dirá: no me interesa, quiero la tierra.",1109.98,1115.4,"Relata que caciques dicen preferir la tierra en vez de indemnización — descripción de posición ajena.",{"idx":1608,"utterance_id":1609,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1610,"start_s":1611,"end_s":1612,"word_count":117,"topic_slug":490,"topic_label":491,"target_id":1613,"target_proposition":1614,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1598,"rationale":1615,"indexable":300},243,"80924","Entonces, esa discusión, para mí, es una discusión que sólo perjudica a las minorías, porque las mayorías, ya lo sabes, las frentes parlamentarias, sea la de la bala, sea la de la agricultura,",1116.12,1130.62,"0d06e335-8542-4a06-bbf0-5f9e06b52b1c","proteger los derechos de las minorías en las decisiones del Congreso","Afirma que la discusión perjudica a las minorías y que predominan frentes parlamentarias mayoritarias.",{"idx":23,"utterance_id":1617,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1618,"start_s":1619,"end_s":1620,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},"80925","etc.,",1130.68,1130.78,{"idx":1622,"utterance_id":1623,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1624,"start_s":1625,"end_s":1626,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},245,"80926","de la ganadería, del agronegocio,",1131.06,1132.6,{"idx":1628,"utterance_id":1629,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1618,"start_s":1630,"end_s":1631,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},246,"80927",1132.64,1132.72,{"idx":1633,"utterance_id":1634,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1635,"start_s":1636,"end_s":1637,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},247,"80928","ellas siempre son mayoría dentro del Congreso.",1133.06,1135.2,{"idx":1639,"utterance_id":1640,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1641,"start_s":1642,"end_s":1643,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},248,"80929","Entonces, si no avanzamos, sólo perjudicamos a las personas que más lo necesitan.",1135.48,1139.5,{"idx":1645,"utterance_id":1646,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1647,"start_s":1648,"end_s":1649,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},249,"80930","Entonces, creo que es ese equilibrio, la Tux, que yo digo así, no consigo encuadrarme.",1139.9,1143.74,{"idx":1651,"utterance_id":1652,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1653,"start_s":1654,"end_s":1655,"word_count":313,"indexable":74},250,"80931","Si es de derecha o de izquierda, yo digo que soy de centro, porque dialogo con la izquierda, simplemente no puedo dialogar con la extrema derecha, porque no nos escucha, me insulta, no me tolera.",1144.48,1154.36,{"idx":1657,"utterance_id":1658,"speaker_name":69,"text":1659,"start_s":1660,"end_s":1661,"word_count":229,"indexable":74},251,"80932","Yo también me considero una persona de centro, a veces la gente se enfada, así en nuestro canal, ¿cómo es que dices que eres de centro?",1154.4,1159.8,{"idx":1663,"utterance_id":1664,"speaker_name":69,"text":1665,"start_s":1666,"end_s":1667,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},252,"80933","A veces parece que estás ofendiendo a algunas personas.",1160.16,1162.02,{"idx":1669,"utterance_id":1670,"speaker_name":69,"text":1671,"start_s":1672,"end_s":1673,"word_count":198,"indexable":74},253,"80934","Y creo que el presidente Lula es un presidente de centro, pero llegaremos también a ese punto.",1162.54,1166.8,{"idx":1675,"utterance_id":1676,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1677,"start_s":1678,"end_s":1679,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},254,"80935","Creo que él es de izquierda, pero sabe que gobierna en una democracia... cuyo electorado hoy es más conservador en algunos temas, menos en otros.",1166.84,1176.86,{"idx":1681,"utterance_id":1682,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1683,"start_s":1684,"end_s":1685,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},255,"80936","Entonces, tiene una inteligencia emocional asombrosa.",1176.92,1179.78,{"idx":1687,"utterance_id":1688,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1689,"start_s":1690,"end_s":1691,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},256,"80937","Muy fuera de serie.",1181.42,1182.26,{"idx":1693,"utterance_id":1694,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1695,"start_s":1696,"end_s":1697,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},257,"80938","El presidente aprendió con el dolor, aprendió en la lucha, aprendió en la fábrica, ¿no?",1182.34,1187.88,{"idx":1699,"utterance_id":1700,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1701,"start_s":1702,"end_s":1703,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},258,"80939","Entonces, como persona, él es de izquierda, pero como presidente de la república, es un presidente de centro.",1188.3,1194.7,{"idx":1705,"utterance_id":1706,"speaker_name":69,"text":1707,"start_s":1708,"end_s":1709,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},259,"80940","Porque fue sindicalista, porque supo equilibrar entre capital y trabajo.",1194.98,1197.66,{"idx":1711,"utterance_id":1712,"speaker_name":69,"text":1713,"start_s":1714,"end_s":1715,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},260,"80941","Sabe negociar, sabe conversar, sabe que si no, no se avanza.",1197.7,1200.28,{"idx":1717,"utterance_id":1718,"speaker_name":69,"text":1719,"start_s":1720,"end_s":1721,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},261,"80942","Es un equilibrista en muchos casos.",1200.4,1202.26,{"idx":1723,"utterance_id":1724,"speaker_name":69,"text":1725,"start_s":1726,"end_s":1727,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},262,"80943","Pero ahí llegaremos a un punto, es decir, mucha gente lo conocía del ámbito político.",1202.76,1206.8,{"idx":1729,"utterance_id":1730,"speaker_name":69,"text":1731,"start_s":1732,"end_s":1733,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},263,"80944","Pero te volviste conocida a nivel nacional cuando fuiste candidata a la presidencia de la República, ¿no?",1207.26,1211.88,{"idx":1735,"utterance_id":1736,"speaker_name":69,"text":1737,"start_s":1738,"end_s":1739,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},264,"80945","¿Por qué tomaste esa decisión en la elección de 22, verdad?",1212.56,1216.18,{"idx":1741,"utterance_id":1742,"speaker_name":69,"text":1743,"start_s":1744,"end_s":1745,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},265,"80946","¿Y cómo fue tu decisión de apoyar al presidente Lula?",1217.14,1219.58,{"idx":1747,"utterance_id":1748,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1749,"start_s":1750,"end_s":1751,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},266,"80947","Cuando estaba en la segunda mitad de mi mandato como senadora, Bolsonaro ganó la elección.",1220.48,1226.4,{"idx":1753,"utterance_id":1754,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1755,"start_s":1756,"end_s":1757,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},267,"80948","Y ganó la elección con una agenda absolutamente contraria a la mía.",1226.68,1229.56,{"idx":1759,"utterance_id":1760,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1761,"start_s":1762,"end_s":1763,"word_count":388,"topic_slug":1764,"topic_label":1765,"target_id":1766,"target_proposition":1767,"stance":1768,"stance_confidence":1769,"rationale":1770,"indexable":300},268,"80949","Porque aunque viniendo de un Estado más conservador, yo estoy en contra de la agenda armamentista, siempre lo fui como mujer, otra vez, como cristiana, no puedo desprenderme, creo que el Estado es laico, pero la persona no puede dejar de serlo, mi esencia es esa, mi formación, incluso el humanismo viene de mis convicciones religiosas.",1230.28,1249.78,"politica-de-armas","Política de armas","308ddb6d-1180-447c-8a08-c8f6c6fd6e0e","liberar porte y posesión de armas para la población","contra",0.92,"Declara 'sou contra a pauta armamentista' explícitamente.",{"idx":1772,"utterance_id":1773,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1774,"start_s":1775,"end_s":1776,"word_count":341,"topic_slug":1357,"topic_label":1358,"target_id":1777,"target_proposition":1778,"stance":1768,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":1779,"indexable":300},269,"80950","Así que estoy en contra de la agenda armamentista, contra la agenda del desmonte, me fui contra esa historia del passaboi, passaboiada, porque como dijiste, no es sólo por la preservación de nuestros biomas, es por una cuestión de supervivencia de la humanidad misma y del propio agronegocio.",1250.28,1264.98,"fb837866-6a88-4ef7-86ab-efb6797e7c73","flexibilizar el licenciamiento ambiental","Declara ser 'contra a pauta desmatamento' y critica prácticas como 'passaboi'.",{"idx":1781,"utterance_id":1782,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1783,"start_s":1784,"end_s":1785,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":1786,"topic_label":1787,"target_id":1788,"target_proposition":1789,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":1790,"indexable":300},270,"80951","Su agenda misógina, su agenda prejuiciosa, siempre fui muy, empecé a confrontarla de frente.",1265.46,1271.08,"direitos-das-mulheres","Derechos de las mujeres","01905c22-99f0-48e7-be49-ca46633cad73","combatir la misoginia en la política","Critica la 'pauta misógina' del adversario y dice haberla confrontado públicamente.",{"idx":1792,"utterance_id":1793,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1794,"start_s":1795,"end_s":1796,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},271,"80952","Cuando llegó la Navidad, en el tercer, en el quinto año, en el primer año de Bolsonaro, le dije a mi marido.",1271.5,1278.78,{"idx":1798,"utterance_id":1799,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1800,"start_s":1801,"end_s":1802,"word_count":281,"indexable":74},272,"80953","En Navidad, faltaban tres años, dije que iba a volver a casa, porque me iba a enfrentar a un choque muy fuerte, con un Estado más conservador, y no quiero ir, no voy a cambiar mi esencia.",1278.86,1290.14,{"idx":1804,"utterance_id":1805,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1806,"start_s":1807,"end_s":1808,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},273,"80954","Y él dijo, está bien.",1290.68,1291.62,{"idx":1810,"utterance_id":1811,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1812,"start_s":1813,"end_s":1814,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},274,"80955","Luego vino la CPI (Comisión Parlamentaria de Investigación) de la Covid, tuve cierta proyección nacional.",1293.46,1296.48,{"idx":1816,"utterance_id":1817,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1818,"start_s":1819,"end_s":1820,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},275,"80956","El MDB estaba muy dividido entre Lula y Bolsonaro.",1296.86,1299.66,{"idx":1822,"utterance_id":1823,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1824,"start_s":1825,"end_s":1826,"word_count":117,"indexable":74},276,"80957","El presidente del partido... muy honesto conmigo, dijo: Simone, no tienes el apoyo de nadie si te presentas como candidata, pero necesitamos tu candidatura para no fracturar el partido.",1300.34,1308.72,{"idx":1828,"utterance_id":1829,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1830,"start_s":1831,"end_s":1832,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},277,"80958","Si se trata de la ejecutiva, pueden incluso ir con Bolsonaro, tenemos 55%.",1309.18,1312.88,{"idx":1834,"utterance_id":1835,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1836,"start_s":1837,"end_s":1838,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},278,"80959","Así, en el sentido de que quieren estar con Bolsonaro, pero hay 45% de la ejecutiva y de nuestros compañeros que quieren estar con Lula.",1314.22,1321.36,{"idx":1840,"utterance_id":1841,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1842,"start_s":1843,"end_s":1844,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},279,"80960","Entonces el partido se va a fracturar, la independencia del partido no suma, porque vamos a perder parlamentarios, queríamos que fueras candidata.",1321.74,1328.3,{"idx":1846,"utterance_id":1847,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1848,"start_s":1849,"end_s":1850,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},280,"80961","Como estaba pensando en tomarme un tiempo en la política, volver a casa, a veces ni volver más, hacer política dentro del aula, ¿no?",1328.36,1334.54,{"idx":1852,"utterance_id":1853,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1854,"start_s":1855,"end_s":1856,"word_count":319,"indexable":74},281,"80962","Entonces, como ciudadana común, dije, está bien, siempre que tú... no necesito el apoyo de gobernadores que no voy a tener, sólo quiero poder tener la libertad de decir lo que quiera en los debates.",1335.06,1345.36,{"idx":1858,"utterance_id":1859,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1860,"start_s":1861,"end_s":1862,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},282,"80963","En la televisión voy, sigo el guion, equilibrada como debe ser, pero en los debates quiero la libertad de poder hablar.",1346.16,1352.26,{"idx":1864,"utterance_id":1865,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1866,"start_s":1867,"end_s":1868,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},283,"80964","Y fue así, y ya lo sabía... Lo que no iba a ganar, la probabilidad era mínima, claro, todo podía pasar.",1353.24,1360.66,{"idx":1870,"utterance_id":1871,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1872,"start_s":1873,"end_s":1874,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},284,"80965","Brasil muy polarizado, Lula y Bolsonaro, no había espacio, ¿no?",1360.72,1363.52,{"idx":1876,"utterance_id":1877,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1878,"start_s":1879,"end_s":1880,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},285,"80966","Ah, 2%, 3% de probabilidad de que pasara algo.",1363.56,1365.14,{"idx":1882,"utterance_id":1883,"speaker_name":69,"text":1884,"start_s":1885,"end_s":1886,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},286,"80967","Pero creció, ¿no?",1365.18,1366.36,{"idx":1888,"utterance_id":1889,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1890,"start_s":1891,"end_s":1892,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},287,"80968","Sí, quedé en tercer lugar y obtuve el 5% de los votos.",1366.96,1369.24,{"idx":1894,"utterance_id":1895,"speaker_name":69,"text":1896,"start_s":1897,"end_s":1898,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},288,"80969","Eso, que no es poca cosa.",1369.28,1370.78,{"idx":1900,"utterance_id":1901,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1902,"start_s":1903,"end_s":1904,"word_count":292,"indexable":74},289,"80970","Sí, 5 millones de votos, recordando que el voto útil, que es lo que espero que ocurra ahora, que haya voto útil, que esta elección... de 2026 se dé a nivel nacional en una sola vuelta.",1370.82,1381.96,{"idx":1906,"utterance_id":1907,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1908,"start_s":1909,"end_s":1910,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},290,"80971","Y estamos cerca de eso.",1382.1,1383.28,{"idx":1912,"utterance_id":1913,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1914,"start_s":1915,"end_s":1916,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},291,"80972","Podemos incluso hablar de eso después.",1383.54,1385.22,{"idx":29,"utterance_id":1918,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1919,"start_s":1920,"end_s":1921,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},"80973","Así, en mi concepción, claro que la campaña electoral, la propaganda aún no ha empezado y puede desequilibrar ese plato.",1385.32,1391.72,{"idx":1923,"utterance_id":1924,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1925,"start_s":1926,"end_s":1927,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},293,"80974","Pero creo que, por mi experiencia, llegué a tocar aquí en un tracking del 11%.",1392.04,1396.7,{"idx":1929,"utterance_id":1930,"speaker_name":69,"text":1931,"start_s":1932,"end_s":1933,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},294,"80975","Entonces perdiste el voto a favor de...",1397.72,1400.14,{"idx":1935,"utterance_id":1936,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1937,"start_s":1938,"end_s":1939,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},295,"80976","En la capital llegué en primera vuelta con 9%.",1400.84,1403.22,{"idx":1941,"utterance_id":1942,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1943,"start_s":1944,"end_s":1945,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},296,"80977","Tuve casi 9%, si no me equivoco, casi, después voy a checar, 9% de los votos de los electores paulistanos.",1403.54,1409.2,{"idx":1947,"utterance_id":1948,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1949,"start_s":1950,"end_s":1951,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},297,"80978","En el estado creo que llegué a tocar casi el 6%, bastante por encima, un poco más que eso incluso, casi 7% creo, hay que mirar.",1409.92,1418.1,{"idx":1953,"utterance_id":1954,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1955,"start_s":1956,"end_s":1957,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},298,"80979","Muy por encima de la media nacional, porque no fui al Nordeste.",1418.48,1420.82,{"idx":1959,"utterance_id":1960,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1961,"start_s":1962,"end_s":1963,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},299,"80980","En el Nordeste tuve el 2% de los votos.",1420.86,1422.7,{"idx":1965,"utterance_id":1966,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1967,"start_s":1968,"end_s":1969,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},300,"80981","Y aquí se compensó un poco.",1423.24,1424.44,{"idx":1971,"utterance_id":1972,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1973,"start_s":1974,"end_s":1975,"word_count":972,"indexable":74},301,"80982","Entonces fui a un enfrentamiento ya sabiendo de qué lado estaría en la segunda vuelta, tanto que apenas acabó la elección, fui contactada por el otro lado, a través de un intermediario, un exministro o exministra de Bolsonaro, promendiéndome el Ministerio de Agricultura y Ganadería, en paquete cerrado; no quise, entonces enviaron a otro ministro para ofrecerme el MEC (Ministerio de Educación) y Cultura, junto con la FNDE, que es un... un río de dinero para que puedas, yo soy profesora, ¿no?, poder atender a los municipios, yo dije: mira, no estoy aquí para eso, no estoy en venta, ese no es mi propósito, ¿no?, no necesito eso y mi conciencia es otra, mi criterio es otro, mis profesores son otros, ¿no?, y entonces fui a hablar con el presidente Lula, después de eso ni siquiera dejé hablar al presidente.",1425.4,1472.78,{"idx":1977,"utterance_id":1978,"speaker_name":69,"text":1979,"start_s":1980,"end_s":1981,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},302,"80983","¿Hubo algún bastidor, alguien que negoció a Haddad y a Alckmin, cómo fue?",1473.84,1477.56,{"idx":34,"utterance_id":1983,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1984,"start_s":1985,"end_s":1986,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},"80984","Fue en la casa de Marta Suplicy, que fue mi colega senadora.",1477.6,1480.3,{"idx":1988,"utterance_id":1989,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1990,"start_s":1991,"end_s":1992,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},304,"80985","Tengo un cariño especial por Marta.",1480.38,1481.72,{"idx":1994,"utterance_id":1995,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":1996,"start_s":1997,"end_s":1998,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},305,"80986","Marta, querida, un gran beso.",1481.86,1483.36,{"idx":2000,"utterance_id":2001,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2002,"start_s":2003,"end_s":2004,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},306,"80987","Un abrazo para Marta aquí.",1483.4,1484.78,{"idx":2006,"utterance_id":2007,"speaker_name":69,"text":2008,"start_s":2009,"end_s":2010,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},307,"80988","Y para Márcio también, para Márcio Toledo.",1484.88,1486.98,{"idx":2012,"utterance_id":2013,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2014,"start_s":2015,"end_s":2016,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},308,"80989","Digo que es una de las grandes referencias como mujer.",1487.12,1489.32,{"idx":2018,"utterance_id":2019,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2020,"start_s":2021,"end_s":2022,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},309,"80990","Creo que abrió la puerta a tantas mujeres brasileñas, no sólo a las políticas.",1489.36,1492.58,{"idx":2024,"utterance_id":2025,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2026,"start_s":2027,"end_s":2028,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},310,"80991","Sin duda.",1492.62,1493.18,{"idx":2030,"utterance_id":2031,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2032,"start_s":2033,"end_s":2034,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},311,"80992","Por todo.",1493.54,1493.88,{"idx":2036,"utterance_id":2037,"speaker_name":69,"text":2038,"start_s":2039,"end_s":2040,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},312,"80993","Dentro y fuera de la política.",1495.02,1495.88,{"idx":2042,"utterance_id":2043,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2038,"start_s":2044,"end_s":2045,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},313,"80994",1496.12,1497.12,{"idx":2047,"utterance_id":2048,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2049,"start_s":2050,"end_s":2051,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},314,"80995","La conocí fuera de la política.",1497.8,1499.26,{"idx":2053,"utterance_id":2054,"speaker_name":69,"text":2055,"start_s":2056,"end_s":2057,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},315,"80996","Sexóloga.",1500.08,1500.64,{"idx":2059,"utterance_id":2060,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2061,"start_s":2062,"end_s":2063,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},316,"80997","La miraba a Marta y decía... ¿Qué mujer tan valiente es esa?",1501.54,1503.96,{"idx":2065,"utterance_id":2066,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2067,"start_s":2068,"end_s":2069,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},317,"80998","¿De dónde surgió eso, no?",1504.04,1505.22,{"idx":2071,"utterance_id":2072,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2073,"start_s":2074,"end_s":2075,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},318,"80999","En una época aún de final de la dictadura y todo eso.",1505.34,1507.56,{"idx":2077,"utterance_id":2078,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2079,"start_s":2080,"end_s":2081,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},319,"81000","Así que Marta siempre fue una referencia.",1508.04,1509.34,{"idx":2083,"utterance_id":2084,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2085,"start_s":2086,"end_s":2087,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},320,"81001","Tuve el privilegio de ser senadora junto a ella durante cuatro años.",1509.38,1511.34,{"idx":2089,"utterance_id":2090,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2091,"start_s":2092,"end_s":2093,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},321,"81002","Después de que ella vino a cumplir misión aquí, yo me quedé cuatro años más allí.",1511.44,1514.42,{"idx":2095,"utterance_id":2096,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2097,"start_s":2098,"end_s":2099,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},322,"81003","Y entonces, fui a la casa de Marta.",1515.16,1517.58,{"idx":2101,"utterance_id":2102,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2103,"start_s":2104,"end_s":2105,"word_count":324,"indexable":74},323,"81004","Y llegué allí, ya lo sabía, estaba con mi manifiesto listo, iba a hablar por la tarde, hicimos un almuerzo y yo dije: presidente, no quiero nada, no quiero cargo, no quiero ministerio, mi manifiesto está listo, quiero pedir cinco políticas públicas que sé que usted va a hacer.",1518.24,1531.14,{"idx":2107,"utterance_id":2108,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2109,"start_s":2110,"end_s":2111,"word_count":699,"topic_slug":52,"topic_label":48,"target_id":2112,"target_proposition":2113,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":2114,"indexable":300},324,"81005","Acabamos de salir de la pandemia, quiero un recurso específico, incluso... fuera del presupuesto mismo, del marco fiscal, ¿no?, como crédito extraordinario, para eliminar las listas de espera de cirugías y exámenes en la salud pública por la pandemia; igualdad salarial entre hombres y mujeres, que fue el gran proyecto que él presentó en el Congreso a mi pedido, aprobó, el Supremo lo suspendió y ahora lo liberó para que podamos empezar a efectivizarlo, que esa es una bandera mía, de la que no renuncio a luchar hasta el último día de mi vida; es la gran injusticia que el pueblo brasileño hace con las mujeres.",1531.52,1564.3,"589495b3-ba79-4cce-a59a-426c582a6f9d","reducir el tiempo de espera para consultas, exámenes y cirugías en el SUS","Pidió recurso extraordinario para eliminar las listas de espera de cirugías y exámenes pospandemia.",{"idx":2116,"utterance_id":2117,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2118,"start_s":2119,"end_s":2120,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},325,"81006","No pagar igualdad de salarios en mismo... con las mismas condiciones, con el mismo currículo, mismo tiempo de servicio; derecho a... decir: la mujer queda embarazada y es más para las mujeres.",1564.68,1573.24,{"idx":2122,"utterance_id":2123,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2124,"start_s":2125,"end_s":2126,"word_count":251,"indexable":74},326,"81007","Las familias hoy están teniendo menos hijos, como máximo uno, y Brasil necesita que nosotros justamente, en fin, entre otras cosas, el pé de meia que fue mi poupança jovem.",1573.32,1582.08,{"idx":2128,"utterance_id":2129,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2130,"start_s":2131,"end_s":2132,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},327,"81008","En fin, ahí él habló.",1582.44,1584.14,{"idx":2134,"utterance_id":2135,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2136,"start_s":2137,"end_s":2138,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},328,"81009","Así, lo único que terminé.",1584.18,1585.44,{"idx":2140,"utterance_id":2141,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2142,"start_s":2143,"end_s":2144,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},329,"81010","Él dijo así: solo no pongas que no vas a aceptar Ministerio; yo dije: no voy, presidente; él dijo...",1585.48,1591.22,{"idx":2146,"utterance_id":2147,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2148,"start_s":2149,"end_s":2150,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},330,"81011","Pero no pongas lo que yo necesito.",1591.26,1594.22,{"idx":2152,"utterance_id":2153,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2154,"start_s":2155,"end_s":2156,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},331,"81012","Aprendí en mi vida que en política uno no dice más de lo necesario porque luego para desdecirse, ¿no? lo quité, pero fue un presente.",1594.34,1600.84,{"idx":2158,"utterance_id":2159,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2160,"start_s":2161,"end_s":2162,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},332,"81013","Tengo convicción de que para dar legitimidad a mi apoyo, ¿no?, es una cuestión muy ajustada.",1600.9,1606.18,{"idx":2164,"utterance_id":2165,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2166,"start_s":2167,"end_s":2168,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},333,"81014","Tuve 5 millones de votos, presidente.",1606.22,1607.8,{"idx":2170,"utterance_id":2171,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2172,"start_s":2173,"end_s":2174,"word_count":229,"indexable":74},334,"81015","En la segunda vuelta ganó con 1.800.000 que en realidad son 900 mil votos, uno para allá y uno para acá; fue menos de un millón la diferencia.",1607.86,1614.46,{"idx":2176,"utterance_id":2177,"speaker_name":69,"text":2178,"start_s":2179,"end_s":2180,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},335,"81016","Y tus votos, un pedazo fue para allá, un pedazo fue para Lula, eso pasa, es natural.",1614.52,1617.52,{"idx":2182,"utterance_id":2183,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2184,"start_s":2185,"end_s":2186,"word_count":275,"indexable":74},336,"81017","Pero así, la diferencia en la segunda vuelta me sorprendió negativamente, porque tuvimos una diferencia de sólo 900 mil votos, si contamos para allá y para acá de los 1.800.000.",1617.88,1626.88,{"idx":2188,"utterance_id":2189,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2190,"start_s":2191,"end_s":2192,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},337,"81018","Entonces dije: necesito dar legitimidad a esta pauta.",1627.34,1631.26,{"idx":2194,"utterance_id":2195,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2196,"start_s":2197,"end_s":2198,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},338,"81019","Y entonces lo saqué... simplemente por sacarlo.",1631.72,1634.4,{"idx":2200,"utterance_id":2201,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2202,"start_s":2203,"end_s":2204,"word_count":275,"indexable":74},339,"81020","Pero él intentó tres veces llevarme al Ministerio y sólo el 27 de diciembre, a las vísperas de la toma de posesión, en una conversación que tuve con él al final, fue que me convenció.",1635.02,1645.16,{"idx":2206,"utterance_id":2207,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2208,"start_s":2209,"end_s":2210,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},340,"81021","Además, fui convencida por...",1645.5,1647.16,{"idx":2212,"utterance_id":2213,"speaker_name":69,"text":2214,"start_s":2215,"end_s":2216,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},341,"81022","¿Y siempre planificación u otras opciones?",1647.34,1649.62,{"idx":2218,"utterance_id":2219,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2220,"start_s":2221,"end_s":2222,"word_count":281,"indexable":74},342,"81023","Cuando él me llevó el sobre, el día 23, vine con él a São Paulo y después tomé un avión comercial y él me entregó el sobre final y dijo así: mira, está aquí.",1649.68,1659.4,{"idx":2224,"utterance_id":2225,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2226,"start_s":2227,"end_s":2228,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},343,"81024","Solo mira, vas a pasar la Navidad en tu casa y míralo después.",1660.16,1664.36,{"idx":2230,"utterance_id":2231,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2232,"start_s":2233,"end_s":2234,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},344,"81025","Y llegué a Mato Grosso do Sul con mi marido y dije: mira, independientemente de lo que esté en el sobre, no voy a aceptar.",1665.6,1672.56,{"idx":2236,"utterance_id":2237,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2238,"start_s":2239,"end_s":2240,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},345,"81026","Mi marido me dejó, creo que el día 26 de diciembre, o fue 27, no me acuerdo, en el aeropuerto y él hizo una única observación.",1672.94,1678.44,{"idx":2242,"utterance_id":2243,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2244,"start_s":2245,"end_s":2246,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},346,"81027","Él dijo así: 'Mônica, el país quedó absolutamente dividido y polarizado.'",1678.88,1681.88,{"idx":2248,"utterance_id":2249,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2250,"start_s":2251,"end_s":2252,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},347,"81028","Quedaste en tercer lugar.",1682.38,1683.4,{"idx":2254,"utterance_id":2255,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2256,"start_s":2257,"end_s":2258,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},348,"81029","¿Crees que tu misión con la política, con Brasil, se termina realmente?",1683.44,1687.5,{"idx":2260,"utterance_id":2261,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2262,"start_s":2263,"end_s":2264,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},349,"81030","¿Se terminó en ese momento en que Brasil necesita tanto?",1688.56,1691.12,{"idx":2266,"utterance_id":2267,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2268,"start_s":2269,"end_s":2270,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},350,"81031","Además de todo, el hecho de ser mujer.",1691.9,1693.94,{"idx":2272,"utterance_id":2273,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2274,"start_s":2275,"end_s":2276,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},351,"81032","Y me quedé con eso en la cabeza.",1694.32,1695.34,{"idx":2278,"utterance_id":2279,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2280,"start_s":2281,"end_s":2282,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},352,"81033","Me dormí y cuando desperté para hablar con el presidente Lula...",1695.4,1697.6,{"idx":2284,"utterance_id":2285,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2286,"start_s":2287,"end_s":2288,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},353,"81034","Me acordé de un episodio de mi padre, que es exactamente eso que me preguntaste de Fernando Henrique.",1697.64,1701.8,{"idx":2290,"utterance_id":2291,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2292,"start_s":2293,"end_s":2294,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},354,"81035","Mi padre no quería renunciar, pedir exoneración del ministerio, porque hasta entonces Mato Grosso nunca había tenido ministro.",1702.38,1708.18,{"idx":2296,"utterance_id":2297,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2298,"start_s":2299,"end_s":2300,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},355,"81036","Había estado cuatro años en un ministerio importante, de muchas entregas, que es el Ministerio de la Integración.",1708.84,1713.98,{"idx":2302,"utterance_id":2303,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2304,"start_s":2305,"end_s":2306,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},356,"81037","Y él no durmió el fin de semana.",1714.88,1716.54,{"idx":2308,"utterance_id":2309,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2310,"start_s":2311,"end_s":2312,"word_count":324,"indexable":74},357,"81038","Cuando fue a coger el avión, salió silbando; vi a mi padre así, recuerdo haber preguntado, mi padre murió hace 20 años, recuerdo haberme preguntado así: 'papá, ¿estás tan bien así, por qué esa decisión, ese giro de llave, ¿no?'",1716.6,1729.22,{"idx":2314,"utterance_id":2315,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2316,"start_s":2317,"end_s":2318,"word_count":335,"indexable":74},358,"81039","Él dijo así: era finales de la década de los 90; mi padre vivenció toda la dictadura, toda la reapertura, luchó por las directas ya; mi padre dijo así: 'hija mía, a un presidente democráticamente elegido sólo se le dice no si la petición no es republicana.'",1729.62,1743.78,{"idx":2320,"utterance_id":2321,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2322,"start_s":2323,"end_s":2324,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},359,"81040","No tengo derecho a negar nada a un presidente que fue democráticamente elegido.",1744.44,1748.6,{"idx":2326,"utterance_id":2327,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2328,"start_s":2329,"end_s":2330,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},360,"81041","Qué interesante.",1748.64,1749.36,{"idx":2332,"utterance_id":2333,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2334,"start_s":2335,"end_s":2336,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},361,"81042","Y eso, me quedé con eso en la cabeza.",1749.66,1751.54,{"idx":2338,"utterance_id":2339,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2340,"start_s":2341,"end_s":2342,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},362,"81043","Claro, allí había un sesgo histórico, muy reciente, finales de los 90, no había 10 años de redemocratización, un poco menos.",1751.62,1759,{"idx":2344,"utterance_id":2345,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2346,"start_s":2347,"end_s":2348,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},363,"81044","Y me quedé con eso, dije así... ¿Cómo voy a rechazar una petición del presidente?",1759.54,1763.46,{"idx":2350,"utterance_id":2351,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2352,"start_s":2353,"end_s":2354,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},364,"81045","Si necesitamos una cara de frente amplia para pacificar Brasil, si fui la tercera, además de todo una mujer, tengo que aportar a algo, ¿no?",1763.5,1770.62,{"idx":2356,"utterance_id":2357,"speaker_name":69,"text":2358,"start_s":2359,"end_s":2360,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},365,"81046","Y es una invitación para servir al país también, ¿no?",1770.68,1772.64,{"idx":2362,"utterance_id":2363,"speaker_name":69,"text":2364,"start_s":2365,"end_s":2366,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},366,"81047","Entonces eso realmente es... Y yo dije así, está bien, ¿no?",1772.68,1774.5,{"idx":2368,"utterance_id":2369,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2370,"start_s":2371,"end_s":2372,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},367,"81048","Entonces dije, ahí... Fue así, fue cuestión de horas.",1774.64,1778.86,{"idx":2374,"utterance_id":2375,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2376,"start_s":2377,"end_s":2378,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},368,"81049","Mi cambio de decisión fue cuestión de horas.",1779.42,1781.6,{"idx":2380,"utterance_id":2381,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2382,"start_s":2383,"end_s":2384,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},369,"81050","No soñé con eso, pero recordé ese episodio.",1781.72,1784.22,{"idx":2386,"utterance_id":2387,"speaker_name":69,"text":2388,"start_s":2389,"end_s":2390,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},370,"81051","Fue muy lindo ese programa en el que ustedes aparecieron juntos.",1784.3,1786.68,{"idx":2392,"utterance_id":2393,"speaker_name":69,"text":2394,"start_s":2395,"end_s":2396,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},371,"81052","Quería preguntarte sobre un episodio que algunas personas ya me han dicho, no sé si es verdad o no.",1786.82,1790.4,{"idx":2398,"utterance_id":2399,"speaker_name":69,"text":2400,"start_s":2401,"end_s":2402,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},372,"81053","¿Es verdad que sufriste alguna hostilidad en tu edificio, en el edificio donde vives, por parte de bolsonaristas?",1791.2,1796.54,{"idx":2404,"utterance_id":2405,"speaker_name":69,"text":2406,"start_s":2407,"end_s":2408,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},373,"81054","¿Eso sucedió?",1796.64,1797.26,{"idx":2410,"utterance_id":2411,"speaker_name":69,"text":2412,"start_s":2413,"end_s":2414,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},374,"81055","Ocurrió más de una vez.",1798.5,1799.86,{"idx":2416,"utterance_id":2417,"speaker_name":69,"text":2418,"start_s":2419,"end_s":2420,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},375,"81056","¿Y entonces cómo reaccionabas?",1799.96,1801.32,{"idx":2422,"utterance_id":2423,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2424,"start_s":2425,"end_s":2426,"word_count":675,"topic_slug":1786,"topic_label":1787,"target_id":2427,"target_proposition":2428,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2429,"rationale":2430,"indexable":74},376,"81057","Mira, si es algo que puedo decir así, lo único bueno de haber recibido violencia política toda mi vida como mujer candidata... Primero, pertenezco a una generación que ni siquiera sabía que estaba recibiendo violencia política, porque existía lo que se llamaba violencia doméstica, que yo nunca sufrí; la violencia física, nunca fui agredida, gracias a Dios, ni por un compañero ni por algunas personas, pero la violencia política no la sabíamos, creíamos que era natural que un hombre señalara con el dedo, empujara, gritara, y eso me pasó desde siempre.",1802.38,1835.52,"e71b65c6-8cc7-4ef1-99a0-a0ed559b90ba","liderar un esfuerzo nacional para combatir la violencia contra la mujer",0.7,"Relata haber sufrido violencia política como mujer candidata — relato descriptivo.",{"idx":2432,"utterance_id":2433,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2434,"start_s":2435,"end_s":2436,"word_count":21,"indexable":74},377,"81058","Fui la primera mujer alcaldesa, fui la primera vicegobernadora, entonces era en un ambiente donde las personas, los hombres, políticos no estaban acostumbrados.",1836.06,1842.9,{"idx":2438,"utterance_id":2439,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2440,"start_s":2441,"end_s":2442,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},378,"81059","Entonces, si hubo algo bueno en eso es que me dejó con la piel más dura, ¿sabes?",1843.24,1849.72,{"idx":2444,"utterance_id":2445,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2446,"start_s":2447,"end_s":2448,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},379,"81060","Así, es casi así: lo que viene de abajo no me alcanza.",1849.78,1854.5,{"idx":2450,"utterance_id":2451,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2452,"start_s":2453,"end_s":2454,"word_count":335,"indexable":74},380,"81061","Si sé que estoy en el camino correcto, tengo que tener humildad y reconocer cuando me equivoco; eso lo hago con total naturalidad, pero si tengo convicción de que el camino es ese, nada me aparta del mismo.",1855.16,1866.46,{"idx":2456,"utterance_id":2457,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2458,"start_s":2459,"end_s":2460,"word_count":117,"indexable":74},381,"81062","Quizá por tener una familia bien constituida, no depender financieramente de la política, eso me da condiciones para poder ser yo misma y defender mis ideas y mis pautas.",1867.24,1877.3,{"idx":2462,"utterance_id":2463,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2464,"start_s":2465,"end_s":2466,"word_count":198,"indexable":74},382,"81063","Entonces sí: dar la espalda, no decir buenos días, dar la espalda literalmente y no volverla hasta que me vaya.",1877.38,1886.88,{"idx":2468,"utterance_id":2469,"speaker_name":69,"text":2470,"start_s":2471,"end_s":2472,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},383,"81064","¿Y ya pidieron disculpas?",1887.26,1888.2,{"idx":2474,"utterance_id":2475,"speaker_name":69,"text":2476,"start_s":2477,"end_s":2478,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},384,"81065","No, no, no.",1888.26,1889.18,{"idx":2480,"utterance_id":2481,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2482,"start_s":2483,"end_s":2484,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},385,"81066","Esa es una gran dificultad del ser humano, ¿no?",1891.68,1893.58,{"idx":2486,"utterance_id":2487,"speaker_name":69,"text":2488,"start_s":2489,"end_s":2490,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},386,"81067","Reconocer, ¿no?",1894.54,1895.14,{"idx":2492,"utterance_id":2493,"speaker_name":69,"text":2494,"start_s":2495,"end_s":2496,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},387,"81068","Reconocer cuando se equivoca y tal.",1895.44,1896.5,{"idx":2498,"utterance_id":2499,"speaker_name":69,"text":2500,"start_s":2501,"end_s":2502,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},388,"81069","En el gobierno, es decir, hubo una sintonía muy fuerte tuya con Fernando Haddad desde el comienzo.",1897.26,1902.84,{"idx":2504,"utterance_id":2505,"speaker_name":69,"text":2506,"start_s":2507,"end_s":2508,"word_count":198,"indexable":74},389,"81070","Quisiera que hablaras sobre esa relación, ya que él es el candidato al gobierno y tú eres candidata al Senado.",1902.88,1907.96,{"idx":2510,"utterance_id":2511,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2512,"start_s":2513,"end_s":2514,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},390,"81071","Bueno, primero, que ya viene de la sangre, ¿no?",1908.86,1910.42,{"idx":2516,"utterance_id":2517,"speaker_name":69,"text":2518,"start_s":2519,"end_s":2520,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},391,"81072","Ellos son brimos, ¿no?",1911.24,1912.04,{"idx":2522,"utterance_id":2523,"speaker_name":69,"text":2518,"start_s":2524,"end_s":2525,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},392,"81073",1912.08,1912.52,{"idx":2527,"utterance_id":2528,"speaker_name":69,"text":2529,"start_s":2530,"end_s":2531,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},393,"81074","Todo el mundo es brimo aquí, todo el mundo...",1912.56,1913.82,{"idx":2533,"utterance_id":2534,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2535,"start_s":2536,"end_s":2537,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},394,"81075","Ambos vienen de la vida académica, profesores, ambos.",1914.48,1917.32,{"idx":2539,"utterance_id":2540,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2541,"start_s":2542,"end_s":2543,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},395,"81076","Creo que hay esa cosa de servir, ¿no?",1917.38,1919.24,{"idx":2545,"utterance_id":2546,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2547,"start_s":2548,"end_s":2549,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},396,"81077","Así, es un propósito; nosotros cumplimos una misión.",1919.38,1922,{"idx":2551,"utterance_id":2552,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2553,"start_s":2554,"end_s":2555,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},397,"81078","Cumplí una misión cuando dejé una ciudad súper bien estructurada para ser vicegobernadora, renunciando a tres años de mandato para ser vice, en la que uno se queda allí solo a disposición.",1923.14,1933.62,{"idx":2557,"utterance_id":2558,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2559,"start_s":2560,"end_s":2561,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},398,"81079","Entonces, para mí, esa agenda de cumplir misiones es muy tranquila.",1933.8,1939.48,{"idx":2563,"utterance_id":2564,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2565,"start_s":2566,"end_s":2567,"word_count":443,"topic_slug":2568,"topic_label":2569,"target_id":2570,"target_proposition":2571,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":289,"rationale":2572,"indexable":74},399,"81080","Creo que, por mi parte —luego elogiaré a Haddad y todos los méritos que tiene— pienso que mi conciencia de saber que estaba componiendo una fórmula de frente amplio, cuyo jefe... es siempre el ministro de Hacienda, que es, ¿no?, si yo tuviera algún enfrentamiento... con el que realmente no estuviera de acuerdo, tenía que irme.",1940.2,1958.26,"aliancas-politicas","Alianzas políticas","b8746e86-aeea-4974-b638-fdefb7a6d5d7","componer listas de frente amplio","Relata haber aceptado integrar una candidatura de frente amplia y que se iría si discrepaba.",{"idx":2574,"utterance_id":2575,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2576,"start_s":2577,"end_s":2578,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":2568,"topic_label":2569,"target_id":2579,"target_proposition":2580,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2581,"rationale":2582,"indexable":74},400,"81081","No tenía que llevar eso a lo público, como siempre se hace.",1958.62,1961.96,"68466598-9b36-4d36-a2c1-44c1f930582b","no divulgar divergencias internas del gobierno",0.6,"Afirma que no era necesario hacer públicos los enfrentamientos con el gobierno.",{"idx":2584,"utterance_id":2585,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2586,"start_s":2587,"end_s":2588,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},401,"81082","Pero ya hubo gobiernos, ¿no?",1962.1,1963,{"idx":2590,"utterance_id":2591,"speaker_name":69,"text":2592,"start_s":2593,"end_s":2594,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},402,"81083","Malã, Serra, y tal, esas cosas.",1963.08,1965.02,{"idx":2596,"utterance_id":2597,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2598,"start_s":2599,"end_s":2600,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":32,"target_id":2601,"target_proposition":2602,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2429,"rationale":2603,"indexable":74},403,"81084","Con personalidades distintas, porque yo sabía que eso iba a impactar el dólar, que iba a impactar la inflación, que iba a impactar el precio de los alimentos en la mesa del trabajador.",1965.18,1973.44,"7f4766b5-9fa6-438b-b84b-8a4019f9a1e9","adoptar medidas de política económica que impacten el tipo de cambio y la inflación","Afirma que las decisiones afectarían al dólar, la inflación y los precios al consumidor.",{"idx":2605,"utterance_id":2606,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2607,"start_s":2608,"end_s":2609,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},404,"81085","Porque así es como sucede.",1973.78,1975.02,{"idx":2611,"utterance_id":2612,"speaker_name":69,"text":2613,"start_s":2614,"end_s":2615,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},405,"81086","Incluso Palocci y Mantega tuvieron un poquito, un poquito.",1975.24,1977.94,{"idx":2617,"utterance_id":2618,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2619,"start_s":2620,"end_s":2621,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},406,"81087","Entonces no tenía sentido.",1977.98,1979.12,{"idx":2623,"utterance_id":2624,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2625,"start_s":2626,"end_s":2627,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},407,"81088","Así que todo lo que necesitaba, tenía que decirlo.",1979.18,1981.26,{"idx":2629,"utterance_id":2630,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2631,"start_s":2632,"end_s":2633,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},408,"81089","Internamente.",1981.88,1982.56,{"idx":2635,"utterance_id":2636,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2637,"start_s":2638,"end_s":2639,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},409,"81090","Entonces ni él filtraba, ni yo filtraba.",1982.74,1984.72,{"idx":2641,"utterance_id":2642,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2643,"start_s":2644,"end_s":2645,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},410,"81091","Entonces hubo momentos en que dije: Haddad, esto no puede ser así.",1984.78,1987.34,{"idx":2647,"utterance_id":2648,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2649,"start_s":2650,"end_s":2651,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},411,"81092","Simone, vamos, vamos, esto va a salir bien.",1987.74,1990.54,{"idx":2653,"utterance_id":2654,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2655,"start_s":2656,"end_s":2657,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},412,"81093","Está bien.",1990.68,1990.98,{"idx":2659,"utterance_id":2660,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2661,"start_s":2662,"end_s":2663,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},413,"81094","Y funcionaba.",1991.18,1991.84,{"idx":2665,"utterance_id":2666,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2667,"start_s":2668,"end_s":2669,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},414,"81095","A veces no funcionó, pero la mayoría de las veces funcionaba y seguimos adelante.",1992.82,1995.22,{"idx":2671,"utterance_id":2672,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2673,"start_s":2674,"end_s":2675,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},415,"81096","Lo que tenía que decir, lo decía directamente al presidente Lula.",1995.7,1998.74,{"idx":2677,"utterance_id":2678,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2679,"start_s":2680,"end_s":2681,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},416,"81097","Y eso es una cualidad del presidente Lula que pocas veces en mi vida he visto en un hombre que tiene espacio de poder.",1999.28,2004.98,{"idx":2683,"utterance_id":2684,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2685,"start_s":2686,"end_s":2687,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},417,"81098","Que es saber escuchar.",2005.68,2006.8,{"idx":2689,"utterance_id":2690,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2691,"start_s":2692,"end_s":2693,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},418,"81099","El presidente Lula escucha a un hombre y a una mujer.",2007.68,2010.3,{"idx":2695,"utterance_id":2696,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2697,"start_s":2698,"end_s":2699,"word_count":313,"indexable":74},419,"81100","Igualmente, si yo voy y digo: presidente, necesito hablar durante 10 minutos para que usted entienda mi punto de vista, él me va a escuchar durante 10 minutos, siendo yo mujer, siendo hombre, ya sea Haddad o sea Simone.",2010.84,2022.64,{"idx":2701,"utterance_id":2702,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2703,"start_s":2704,"end_s":2705,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},420,"81101","Y tal vez por eso el presidente acierta tanto; no acierta siempre, pero acierta mucho.",2023.26,2027.84,{"idx":2707,"utterance_id":2708,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2709,"start_s":2710,"end_s":2711,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},421,"81102","Entonces, eso es algo que me impactó mucho.",2028.18,2030.1,{"idx":2713,"utterance_id":2714,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2715,"start_s":2716,"end_s":2717,"word_count":124,"topic_slug":2718,"topic_label":2719,"target_id":2720,"target_proposition":2721,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":2722,"indexable":300},422,"81103","Y segundo, que haya tenido el coraje de poner a alguien que no es de izquierda en el Ministerio del Presupuesto.",2032.06,2035.96,"orcamento-publico","Presupuesto público","5ec08043-7ce0-4997-9312-6f076b35b088","nombrar ministro del Presupuesto de diferentes alineamientos políticos","Elogia la valentía de poner a alguien no de izquierda en el presupuesto.",{"idx":2724,"utterance_id":2725,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2726,"start_s":2727,"end_s":2728,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":2718,"topic_label":2719,"target_id":2720,"target_proposition":2721,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":2729,"indexable":300},423,"81104","Él me dio la llave del presupuesto en la mano y dijo: toma.",2036.38,2039.06,"Afirma haber recibido la llave del presupuesto y agradece el nombramiento.",{"idx":2731,"utterance_id":2732,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2733,"start_s":2734,"end_s":2735,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},424,"81105","Y el presidente Lula me hizo uno de los homenajes más bonitos de mi vida.",2039.88,2042.58,{"idx":2737,"utterance_id":2738,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2739,"start_s":2740,"end_s":2741,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},425,"81106","Le estoy muy agradecida por eso.",2042.66,2043.96,{"idx":2743,"utterance_id":2744,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2745,"start_s":2746,"end_s":2747,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},426,"81107","Porque cuando me invitó a ir a São Paulo, yo decía: presidente, ¿cómo así?",2044,2047.36,{"idx":2749,"utterance_id":2750,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2751,"start_s":2752,"end_s":2753,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":2568,"topic_label":2569,"target_id":2754,"target_proposition":2755,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2581,"rationale":2756,"indexable":74},427,"81108","Él dijo: necesito un frente amplio, Alckmin representa el frente amplio, y usted hace falta; necesito mujeres y tal.",2048.26,2054.22,"1d9a3140-a648-4d91-927a-73981bc35954","formar un frente amplio incluyendo representantes de diferentes espectros","relata invitación para formar un frente amplio e incluir a diferentes actores.",{"idx":2758,"utterance_id":2759,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2760,"start_s":2761,"end_s":2762,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},428,"81109","Y yo dije así: él subió al avión cuando yo tenía que decirlo, ¿no?",2054.66,2060.1,{"idx":2764,"utterance_id":2765,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2766,"start_s":2767,"end_s":2768,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},429,"81110","Y él bromeó, puso la mano en mi brazo y yo dije: ¿ya puedo... empezar a jugar a que me llamen senadora por São Paulo, no?",2060.3,2068.12,{"idx":2770,"utterance_id":2771,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2772,"start_s":2773,"end_s":2774,"word_count":27,"indexable":74},430,"81111","Pero me hizo un homenaje un poquito antes, ¿no?, en un vuelo anterior junto con otros ministros, donde hubo algún episodio que ocurrió, no recuerdo qué estábamos discutiendo.",2068.6,2078.08,{"idx":2776,"utterance_id":2777,"speaker_name":69,"text":2778,"start_s":2779,"end_s":2780,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},431,"81112","Tuvo un discurso importante suyo en su estado también, que repercutió mucho, lo recuerdo también.",2078.12,2083.02,{"idx":2782,"utterance_id":2783,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2784,"start_s":2785,"end_s":2786,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},432,"81113","Sí, y entonces él se volvió y dijo así, y yo dije: mire, presidente, ¿no?, hago política por esto, por esto, por esto, no hay otro sentido en mi vida, no sé.",2083.06,2090.7,{"idx":2788,"utterance_id":2789,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2790,"start_s":2791,"end_s":2792,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},433,"81114","Está fuera de la política de alguna forma.",2091.5,2093.12,{"idx":2794,"utterance_id":2795,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2796,"start_s":2797,"end_s":2798,"word_count":88,"topic_slug":2799,"topic_label":2800,"target_id":2801,"target_proposition":2802,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2429,"rationale":2803,"indexable":74},434,"81115","Creo que la necesito, aún más ahora; comenté que soy de la generación que tenía voz como mujer, pero no era escuchada.",2093.66,2100.82,"igualdade-de-genero","Igualdad de género","525a8986-b0b1-4a38-a135-4fde515feb3f","aumentar la participación femenina en candidaturas mayoritarias y en el parlamento","relata que su generación tenía voz como mujer pero no era escuchada.",{"idx":2805,"utterance_id":2806,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2807,"start_s":2808,"end_s":2809,"word_count":117,"topic_slug":2799,"topic_label":2800,"target_id":2801,"target_proposition":2802,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":2810,"rationale":2811,"indexable":300},435,"81116","Soy de una generación a la que otras mujeres, como Marta, abrieron las puertas, Benedita da Silva en Río de Janeiro, y tantas mujeres valiosas, para que pudiéramos tener voz.",2101.58,2111.84,0.75,"reconoce a las mujeres que abrieron puertas para aumentar la representación femenina.",{"idx":2813,"utterance_id":2814,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2815,"start_s":2816,"end_s":2817,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":2799,"topic_label":2800,"target_id":2801,"target_proposition":2802,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":289,"rationale":2818,"indexable":74},436,"81117","Pero hay una diferencia entre tener voz en la política y ser escuchada.",2112.28,2114.94,"dice que hay diferencia entre tener voz y ser efectivamente escuchada.",{"idx":2820,"utterance_id":2821,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2822,"start_s":2823,"end_s":2824,"word_count":198,"topic_slug":2825,"topic_label":2826,"target_id":2827,"target_proposition":2828,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":2829,"indexable":300},437,"81118","Empecé a ser escuchada en la CPI (Comisión Parlamentaria de Investigación) de la Covid cuando fui candidata a la presidencia del Senado —perdí— y denuncié el presupuesto secreto.",2115.5,2121.12,"transparencia-e-compromissos-de-governo","Transparencia y Compromisos de Gobierno","359dff48-3298-4c4b-849a-d5df201d7831","investigar y dar transparencia al presupuesto secreto","afirma haber denunciado el presupuesto secreto en la CPI (Comisión Parlamentaria de Investigación), defendiendo la investigación.",{"idx":2831,"utterance_id":2832,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2833,"start_s":2834,"end_s":2835,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},438,"81119","Y entonces el apogeo realmente fue en los debates.",2121.6,2123.54,{"idx":2837,"utterance_id":2838,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2839,"start_s":2840,"end_s":2841,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},439,"81120","Ellos dijeron así: ah, ella tiene algo que decir.",2124.16,2126.42,{"idx":2843,"utterance_id":2844,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2845,"start_s":2846,"end_s":2847,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},440,"81121","Y entonces pasé a ser escuchada, pero después de 25 años de vida pública.",2126.72,2129.56,{"idx":2849,"utterance_id":2850,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2851,"start_s":2852,"end_s":2853,"word_count":400,"indexable":74},441,"81122","Entonces, creo que... yo comenté eso con el presidente, y él hizo la observación, dijo así: Simone, no, la política no puede prescindir de usted, porque usted tiene algo que falta en la política, que yo ya no encuentro en los líderes: usted tiene carácter.",2130.84,2148.26,{"idx":2855,"utterance_id":2856,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2857,"start_s":2858,"end_s":2859,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},442,"81123","Y eso me impactó mucho, porque me remite al juramento que hice a mi padre y a mi madre cuando salí de casa.",2149.1,2155.54,{"idx":2861,"utterance_id":2862,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2863,"start_s":2864,"end_s":2865,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":2866,"topic_label":2867,"target_id":2868,"target_proposition":2869,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":2810,"rationale":2870,"indexable":300},443,"81124","Entonces, así... y tengo que tener ética en mi vida, que es mucho más que todo ese asunto de la política.",2155.88,2161.72,"etica-e-integridade-publica","Ética y integridad pública","2d4419ec-780e-47b2-9336-8177a386b821","valorar el carácter y la ética en la política","declara que es necesario tener ética en la vida, además de combatir la corrupción.",{"idx":2872,"utterance_id":2873,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2874,"start_s":2875,"end_s":2876,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":2866,"topic_label":2867,"target_id":2877,"target_proposition":2878,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2429,"rationale":2879,"indexable":74},444,"81125","Las personas confunden ética con corrupción.",2162.5,2164.36,"6a02d838-560c-47b0-9340-4605e0a5fdb9","distinguir ética de corrupción en la política","afirma que la gente confunde ética con corrupción.",{"idx":2881,"utterance_id":2882,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2883,"start_s":2884,"end_s":2885,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":2866,"topic_label":2867,"target_id":2868,"target_proposition":2869,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":2886,"rationale":2887,"indexable":74},445,"81126","Seguir el carácter y la ética es mucho más amplio que eso.",2164.46,2168.4,0.72,"defiende el carácter y la ética como conceptos más amplios que la corrupción.",{"idx":2889,"utterance_id":2890,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2891,"start_s":2892,"end_s":2893,"word_count":182,"topic_slug":2866,"topic_label":2867,"target_id":2894,"target_proposition":2895,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":2810,"rationale":2896,"indexable":300},446,"81127","Es ser fiel, es estar del lado correcto de la historia, es tener el coraje de retroceder cuando uno está equivocado.",2168.52,2173.44,"3a81f62b-4ef4-4a91-ada0-85ab8bf863c6","mantener la integridad personal al actuar en la política","dice ser fiel, estar del lado correcto y retroceder cuando está equivocado.",{"idx":2898,"utterance_id":2899,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2900,"start_s":2901,"end_s":2902,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},447,"81128","Y él me dejó desconcertada ahí, ¿no?",2174.94,2176.42,{"idx":2904,"utterance_id":2905,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2906,"start_s":2907,"end_s":2908,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},448,"81129","Porque, imagínese, que el presidente de la república me diga que pasé por tantas dificultades.",2176.5,2181.06,{"idx":2910,"utterance_id":2911,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2912,"start_s":2913,"end_s":2914,"word_count":388,"indexable":74},449,"81130","No es porque sea blanca, ni porque tenga dinero, ni porque pertenezca a la religión mayoritaria, ni porque sea heterosexual, ni porque represente a la mayoría dentro de una minoría donde las minorías son masacradas, que yo no haya recibido todo tipo de adversidad, de violencia.",2181.14,2200.54,{"idx":2916,"utterance_id":2917,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2918,"start_s":2919,"end_s":2920,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},450,"81131","Y cuando él dijo eso, parecía que era mi padre enviando algún mensaje.",2200.64,2206,{"idx":2922,"utterance_id":2923,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2924,"start_s":2925,"end_s":2926,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},451,"81132","No soy espiritista, pero es como si él estuviera ahí.",2206.54,2210,{"idx":2928,"utterance_id":2929,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2930,"start_s":2931,"end_s":2932,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},452,"81133","Él convivió con mi padre.",2210.08,2211.08,{"idx":2934,"utterance_id":2935,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2936,"start_s":2937,"end_s":2938,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},453,"81134","Mi padre se llevaba muy bien con él.",2212.1,2213.38,{"idx":2940,"utterance_id":2941,"speaker_name":69,"text":2942,"start_s":2943,"end_s":2944,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},454,"81135","No lo sabía.",2213.42,2213.94,{"idx":2946,"utterance_id":2947,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2948,"start_s":2949,"end_s":2950,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},455,"81136","Hay un episodio de una pluma que él cuenta.",2214.88,2216.9,{"idx":2952,"utterance_id":2953,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2954,"start_s":2955,"end_s":2956,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},456,"81137","Porque Lula siempre quiso... tomar posesión con una pluma que le regaló un gran amigo del Nordeste.",2217.46,2223.34,{"idx":2958,"utterance_id":2959,"speaker_name":69,"text":2960,"start_s":2961,"end_s":2962,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},457,"81138","No recuerdo qué fue.",2223.44,2224.56,{"idx":2964,"utterance_id":2965,"speaker_name":69,"text":2966,"start_s":2967,"end_s":2968,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},458,"81139","Sí, ya escuché esa historia.",2224.6,2225.56,{"idx":2970,"utterance_id":2971,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2972,"start_s":2973,"end_s":2974,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},459,"81140","Y en el día de la toma de posesión, creo que él estaba tan nervioso que... la perdió, la perdió, la perdió.",2226.08,2229.76,{"idx":2976,"utterance_id":2977,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2978,"start_s":2979,"end_s":2980,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},460,"81141","Entonces ganó, se llevó la mano al pecho y la pluma no estaba allí.",2229.82,2233,{"idx":2982,"utterance_id":2983,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2984,"start_s":2985,"end_s":2986,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},461,"81142","Mi padre era presidente del Senado, del Congreso, entonces quien juramentó, la primera toma de posesión del presidente Lula, en el Lula I, fue mi padre.",2233.72,2240.92,{"idx":2988,"utterance_id":2989,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2990,"start_s":2991,"end_s":2992,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},462,"81143","Entonces mi padre sacó la pluma y se la dio para que firmara.",2241.46,2243.86,{"idx":2994,"utterance_id":2995,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":2996,"start_s":2997,"end_s":2998,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},463,"81144","Y mi padre, como buen árabe, buen libanés, va y trata de recuperar la pluma.",2244.36,2248.62,{"idx":3000,"utterance_id":3001,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3002,"start_s":3003,"end_s":3004,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},464,"81145","Viene el cerimonialista y dice así: no, presidente.",2248.82,2251.06,{"idx":3006,"utterance_id":3007,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3008,"start_s":3009,"end_s":3010,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},465,"81146","Y le dice a mi padre, presidente del Congreso: ahora esa pluma forma parte del acervo de la historia de Brasil.",2251.12,2256.34,{"idx":3012,"utterance_id":3013,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3014,"start_s":3015,"end_s":3016,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},466,"81147","Y así él se quedó sin la pluma.",2256.82,2258.78,{"idx":3018,"utterance_id":3019,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3020,"start_s":3021,"end_s":3022,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},467,"81148","No era una pluma estilográfica, pero tampoco era cualquier cosa.",2259.98,2262.28,{"idx":3024,"utterance_id":3025,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3026,"start_s":3027,"end_s":3028,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},468,"81149","En fin, mi padre bromea, dijo así: me quedé sin la pluma, pero le di la posesión al presidente.",2262.52,2266.22,{"idx":3030,"utterance_id":3031,"speaker_name":69,"text":3032,"start_s":3033,"end_s":3034,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},469,"81150","No sabía que una pluma de posesión se volviera así.",2266.3,2269.04,{"idx":3036,"utterance_id":3037,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3038,"start_s":3039,"end_s":3040,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},470,"81151","Sí, por alguna razón, creo que esa pluma debe haber pasado a formar parte del acervo, porque eso le comunicaron a mi padre, que no podía recuperar la pluma.",2269.08,2275.04,{"idx":3042,"utterance_id":3043,"speaker_name":69,"text":3044,"start_s":3045,"end_s":3046,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},471,"81152","Fue muy bonita la toma de posesión de Lula.",2275.08,2276.5,{"idx":3048,"utterance_id":3049,"speaker_name":69,"text":3050,"start_s":3051,"end_s":3052,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},472,"81153","Sí, ¿no?, cuando hizo ese discurso, el primero, eso fue realmente impactante.",2276.52,2281.48,{"idx":3054,"utterance_id":3055,"speaker_name":69,"text":3056,"start_s":3057,"end_s":3058,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},473,"81154","Pero entonces usted tuvo ese gran entendimiento con Haddad; ¿cómo ve usted sus cualidades para ser gobernador de São Paulo?",2281.92,2287.1,{"idx":3060,"utterance_id":3061,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3062,"start_s":3063,"end_s":3064,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},474,"81155","Bueno, primero la preparación.",2288.26,2289.18,{"idx":3066,"utterance_id":3067,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3068,"start_s":3069,"end_s":3070,"word_count":95,"topic_slug":3071,"topic_label":3072,"target_id":3073,"target_proposition":3074,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":3075,"indexable":300},475,"81156","Quien vio el debate en Band vio cuánto Haddad evoluciona cada día.",2289.38,2294.18,"eleicoes-presidenciais","Elecciones presidenciales","525b905a-43d7-4378-893f-708f1f145ee8","apoyar al candidato al gobierno del Estado de São Paulo","elogia la evolución de Haddad en los debates como argumento de apoyo.",{"idx":3077,"utterance_id":3078,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3079,"start_s":3080,"end_s":3081,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},476,"81157","Es alguien que ya fue ministro de Economía, creo que yo derribé algún...",2295.04,2299.3,{"idx":3083,"utterance_id":3084,"speaker_name":69,"text":3085,"start_s":3086,"end_s":3087,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},477,"81158","No, eso no va a hacer diferencia.",2299.5,2301.34,{"idx":3089,"utterance_id":3090,"speaker_name":69,"text":3091,"start_s":3092,"end_s":3093,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},478,"81159","Era solo para el colega.",2301.38,2302.56,{"idx":3095,"utterance_id":3096,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3097,"start_s":3098,"end_s":3099,"word_count":256,"indexable":74},479,"81160","Fue ministro de Educación, ministro de Economía, y como ministro de Economía, la educación es prioridad absoluta, pero como ministro de Economía tenía que tener una visión horizontal, no solo del país sino... de la gestión del gobierno del presidente Lula.",2303.8,2316.68,{"idx":3101,"utterance_id":3102,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3103,"start_s":3104,"end_s":3105,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},480,"81161","Así que él sabe, además de haber sido alcalde, es paulista, nació aquí, tiene una ventaja con respecto a eso.",2316.74,2323.46,{"idx":3107,"utterance_id":3108,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3109,"start_s":3110,"end_s":3111,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},481,"81162","Entonces, primero, la capacidad y la preparación.",2323.82,2325.84,{"idx":3113,"utterance_id":3114,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3115,"start_s":3116,"end_s":3117,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},482,"81163","Segundo, la honradez.",2326.72,2327.82,{"idx":3119,"utterance_id":3120,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3121,"start_s":3122,"end_s":3123,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":3071,"topic_label":3072,"target_id":3073,"target_proposition":3074,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":3124,"indexable":300},483,"81164","Creo que, así, si hay algo que podemos decir de Haddad, es que tiene la capacidad de cumplir misiones.",2328.3,2334.92,"atribuye a Haddad la capacidad de cumplir misiones, defendiéndolo.",{"idx":3126,"utterance_id":3127,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3128,"start_s":3129,"end_s":3130,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},484,"81165","Él entiende que la política es para servir.",2335.42,2337.28,{"idx":3132,"utterance_id":3133,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3134,"start_s":3135,"end_s":3136,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":2866,"topic_label":2867,"target_id":2868,"target_proposition":2869,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":3137,"indexable":300},485,"81166","Así que esa cuestión ética —que, de nuevo, la ética como algo mucho más amplio de lo que hoy en día se encasilla— eso Haddad lo tiene.",2338,2345.4,"atribuye ética a Haddad y dice que él reúne ese calificativo.",{"idx":3139,"utterance_id":3140,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3141,"start_s":3142,"end_s":3143,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},486,"81167","Entonces, así, él une la ética... la capacidad, la sensibilidad que un hombre público debe tener en un país tan desigual, con tantas diferencias.",2345.88,2356.78,{"idx":696,"utterance_id":3145,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3146,"start_s":3147,"end_s":3148,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},"81168","Entonces, así, vi el proyecto, ¿no?",2356.86,2358.78,{"idx":3150,"utterance_id":3151,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3152,"start_s":3153,"end_s":3154,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},488,"81169","El SP Protege, ¿no?",2359.04,2360.3,{"idx":3156,"utterance_id":3157,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3158,"start_s":3159,"end_s":3160,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},489,"81170","Él no habla de estadísticas, habla de personas.",2360.82,2363.56,{"idx":3162,"utterance_id":3163,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3164,"start_s":3165,"end_s":3166,"word_count":171,"topic_slug":710,"topic_label":711,"target_id":3167,"target_proposition":3168,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":3169,"indexable":300},490,"81171","Él dice así: ninguna mujer puede ser golpeada, ninguna mujer en São Paulo puede sufrir feminicidio.",2364.1,2369.54,"f9ef3a96-ef02-4a3d-986a-42498cea598d","implementar políticas públicas para prevenir crímenes contra mujeres mediante revitalización urbana e iluminación","cita SP Protege y afirma que ninguna mujer puede sufrir feminicidio.",{"idx":697,"utterance_id":3171,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3172,"start_s":3173,"end_s":3174,"word_count":160,"topic_slug":3175,"topic_label":3176,"target_id":3177,"target_proposition":3178,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1249,"rationale":3179,"indexable":300},"81172","São Paulo no puede ser el estado que más recauda y que menos crece.",2369.62,2374.28,"desenvolvimento-economico","Desarrollo económico","3768daca-5227-41ec-a40d-ce37c4109790","promover el desarrollo económico en São Paulo","afirma que São Paulo no puede recaudar mucho y generar poco empleo.",{"idx":3181,"utterance_id":3182,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3183,"start_s":3184,"end_s":3185,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},492,"81173","Si crece menos, genera menos empleo, tiene menos ingresos.",2374.38,2377.38,{"idx":3187,"utterance_id":3188,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3189,"start_s":3190,"end_s":3191,"word_count":256,"topic_slug":710,"topic_label":711,"target_id":3167,"target_proposition":3168,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":3192,"indexable":300},493,"81174","No puede ser que, mientras Brasil hizo un pacto contra la violencia a la mujer y contra el feminicidio y este cayó 2,5% del año pasado a este año, en São Paulo haya aumentado un 10% el número de feminicidios en los primeros cuatro meses.",2377.92,2391.96,"contrasta la caída a nivel nacional con el aumento de feminicidios en São Paulo.",{"idx":3194,"utterance_id":3195,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3196,"start_s":3197,"end_s":3198,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},494,"81175","Y cuando él habla de eso, habla de gente, habla de personas.",2392.82,2395.54,{"idx":3200,"utterance_id":3201,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3202,"start_s":3203,"end_s":3204,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},495,"81176","Así que, en fin, él tiene atributos.",2395.86,2397.26,{"idx":3206,"utterance_id":3207,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3208,"start_s":3209,"end_s":3210,"word_count":313,"topic_slug":3211,"topic_label":3212,"target_id":3213,"target_proposition":3214,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":3215,"indexable":300},496,"81177","Además de lo que creo que en este momento se necesita, tenemos que acabar con esa polarización; ese discurso de odio está contaminando a nuestra juventud, está volviendo a nuestra juventud más conservadora que tú, que dices que tienes amistad, ¿no?",2397.88,2411.76,"polarizacao-politica-e-divisao-do-pais","Polarización política","7515ee6f-b469-4db1-a2b3-734fe7ee9836","reducir la polarización política y promover la unidad nacional","declara explícitamente que hay que acabar con esa polarización y ese odio.",{"idx":3217,"utterance_id":3218,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3219,"start_s":3220,"end_s":3221,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},497,"81178","Entonces...",2412.22,2412.64,{"idx":3223,"utterance_id":3224,"speaker_name":69,"text":3225,"start_s":3226,"end_s":3227,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},498,"81179","Y hay un punto interesante, tú hablando de la polarización, ¿no?",2414.1,2416.46,{"idx":3229,"utterance_id":3230,"speaker_name":69,"text":3231,"start_s":3232,"end_s":3233,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},499,"81180","Hoy salió una encuesta, por cierto, un dato de la encuesta BTG Nexus que dice que la mayoría de los brasileños está cansada de la polarización, ¿no?",2417.32,2425.42,{"idx":3235,"utterance_id":3236,"speaker_name":69,"text":3237,"start_s":3238,"end_s":3239,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},500,"81181","Que quiere... dejar de pelear, quiero decir, eso realmente, bueno, es algo que viene agotando a la gente.",2425.52,2431.84,{"idx":3241,"utterance_id":3242,"speaker_name":69,"text":3243,"start_s":3244,"end_s":3245,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},501,"81182","Y nosotros que vivimos en ese entorno, creo que también sufrimos ese impacto.",2432.02,2435.24,{"idx":3247,"utterance_id":3248,"speaker_name":69,"text":3249,"start_s":3250,"end_s":3251,"word_count":229,"indexable":74},502,"81183","Pero quería preguntarte, o sea, cuáles son los principales problemas, mencionaste algunos, ¿no?, feminicidio, que ves en la administración estatal, en el gobierno Tarcídio?",2435.84,2444.02,{"idx":3253,"utterance_id":3254,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3255,"start_s":3256,"end_s":3257,"word_count":119,"topic_slug":2825,"topic_label":2826,"target_id":3258,"target_proposition":3259,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1249,"rationale":3260,"indexable":74},503,"81184","Bueno, primero, el maquillaje de los números, ¿no?",2444.3,2446.68,"bef0b449-06ae-4096-8a42-0a225115794a","divulgar datos públicos veraces y transparentes","acusa 'maquiagem dos números' y exige veracidad en los datos oficiales.",{"idx":3262,"utterance_id":3263,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3264,"start_s":3265,"end_s":3266,"word_count":154,"topic_slug":2825,"topic_label":2826,"target_id":3258,"target_proposition":3259,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":2810,"rationale":3267,"indexable":300},504,"81185","No sabemos qué es real o qué es fake.",2446.86,2448.82,"afirma no saber qué es real o fake sobre los números presentados.",{"idx":3269,"utterance_id":3270,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3271,"start_s":3272,"end_s":3273,"word_count":182,"topic_slug":2825,"topic_label":2826,"target_id":3258,"target_proposition":3259,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":714,"rationale":3274,"indexable":300},505,"81186","Entonces, hasta la evaluación se hace difícil cuando él presenta números que verificamos y luego no encontramos.",2448.88,2456.06,"dice que las evaluaciones son difíciles cuando los números comprobados no existen.",{"idx":3276,"utterance_id":3277,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3278,"start_s":3279,"end_s":3280,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":3281,"target_proposition":3282,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1249,"rationale":3283,"indexable":300},506,"81187","Segundo, la falta de honestidad intelectual al decir que la mayor parte de las obras que se están entregando fueron contratadas en gestiones anteriores.",2456.56,2464.98,"9206cde7-cc65-4e82-8557-d910ce3ff8a4","reconocer la participación de gestiones anteriores en las obras públicas","acusa falta de honestidad intelectual sobre el origen de las obras entregadas.",{"idx":3285,"utterance_id":3286,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3287,"start_s":3288,"end_s":3289,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},507,"81188","Algunas incluso contratadas allí mientras Haddad era alcalde, pero los otros que pasaron por la capital o incluso... por el Estado.",2465.16,2474.98,{"idx":3291,"utterance_id":3292,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3293,"start_s":3294,"end_s":3295,"word_count":88,"topic_slug":3296,"topic_label":3297,"target_id":3298,"target_proposition":3299,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":3300,"indexable":300},508,"81189","La participación del gobierno federal en los recursos aquí del Minha Casa Minha Vida, que tiene muchos recursos, la participación del SUS en el SUS Paulista.",2475.62,2484.24,"politica-de-habitacao","Política de vivienda","0ca9908a-9afa-4e45-8d81-e448341c1ba5","asegurar financiamiento federal para programas de vivienda (Minha Casa Minha Vida)","afirma que el programa tiene muchos recursos federales.",{"idx":3302,"utterance_id":3303,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3304,"start_s":3305,"end_s":3306,"word_count":198,"topic_slug":52,"topic_label":48,"target_id":3307,"target_proposition":3308,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":3309,"indexable":300},509,"81190","El SUS Paulista sólo es SUS Paulista, es un proyecto irrelevante, nadie discute esto, porque hay dinero del presupuesto federal.",2484.74,2490.74,"c2932d93-3b3b-4719-bcb7-1a4e13024410","asegurar financiamiento adecuado para el SUS","dice que el SUS Paulista sólo existe gracias a recursos federales.",{"idx":3311,"utterance_id":3312,"speaker_name":69,"text":3313,"start_s":3314,"end_s":3315,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},510,"81191","Hay muchos beneficios aquí en el tren, en la ciudad.",2490.78,2493.58,{"idx":3317,"utterance_id":3318,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3319,"start_s":3320,"end_s":3321,"word_count":154,"topic_slug":1245,"topic_label":1246,"target_id":3322,"target_proposition":3323,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":3324,"indexable":300},511,"81192","El propio túnel sumergido, que es Santos-Guarujá, la mitad ahí son recursos federales.",2494.98,2500.52,"72f5e070-2021-4646-a6b5-1855d4ccc5ba","asegurar financiamiento federal para proyectos de infraestructura estatal","afirma que la mitad del túnel Santos-Guarujá fue costeada con recursos federales.",{"idx":3326,"utterance_id":3327,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3328,"start_s":3329,"end_s":3330,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},512,"81193","Entonces, pues, y aparte la seguridad pública.",2500.72,2503.62,{"idx":3332,"utterance_id":3333,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3334,"start_s":3335,"end_s":3336,"word_count":515,"topic_slug":3337,"topic_label":3338,"target_id":3339,"target_proposition":3340,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":3341,"indexable":300},513,"81194","En general, no haber tenido un proyecto de São Paulo para la región metropolitana o para las regiones metropolitanas, que no es sólo la región metropolitana de São Paulo; tienes la región metropolitana de Campinas, tienes otras regiones, incluso la de Piracicaba tiene su área metropolitana, pero allí ya es la región administrativa de la Baixada Santista; no haber tenido un proyecto de movilidad urbana.",2503.68,2527.7,"mobilidade-urbana-e-logistica","Movilidad urbana y logística","8512f33a-cd2f-4b1c-b4dc-a4cb5b74fa60","implementar un plan estratégico de movilidad urbana para regiones metropolitanas","critica la ausencia de un proyecto de movilidad para las regiones metropolitanas.",{"idx":3343,"utterance_id":3344,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3345,"start_s":3346,"end_s":3347,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},514,"81195","Hablamos de Marta, Marta hizo el billete único.",2528.32,2530.6,{"idx":3349,"utterance_id":3350,"speaker_name":69,"text":3351,"start_s":3352,"end_s":3353,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},515,"81196","Marta hizo la diferencia.",2531.16,2532.2,{"idx":3355,"utterance_id":3356,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3357,"start_s":3358,"end_s":3359,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},516,"81197","En lo municipal vino Alckmin e hizo el billete único estatal, integrando el autobús con el tren del metro.",2532.84,2540.44,{"idx":3361,"utterance_id":3362,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3363,"start_s":3364,"end_s":3365,"word_count":556,"topic_slug":3337,"topic_label":3338,"target_id":3339,"target_proposition":3340,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":3366,"indexable":300},517,"81198","¿Cuál es el proyecto de movilidad urbana, aparte de continuar con las líneas —que es fundamental— de metro, la expansión de la línea de metro, eso nadie lo discute, pero cuál es el plan estratégico para sacar los coches de las calles, para descontaminar, para garantizar que el trabajador, que ya trabaja seis por uno y que necesita trabajar cinco por dos, pueda tener menos tiempo en el tránsito, más salud mental, más tiempo con la familia, incluso para garantizar esa productividad?",2541.48,2565.76,"pide un plan para sacar coches de las calles y reducir el tiempo en el tránsito.",{"idx":3368,"utterance_id":3369,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3370,"start_s":3371,"end_s":3372,"word_count":160,"indexable":74},518,"81199","¿Cómo garantizamos la productividad del trabajador, que tarda cuatro horas?",2565.82,2569.44,{"idx":3374,"utterance_id":3375,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3376,"start_s":3377,"end_s":3378,"word_count":240,"indexable":74},519,"81200","Entre ida y vuelta, en promedio, tres o tres horas y media ida y vuelta en las grandes ciudades, no sólo en São Paulo sino en todo Brasil.",2569.92,2577,{"idx":3380,"utterance_id":3381,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3382,"start_s":3383,"end_s":3384,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":3385,"topic_label":3386,"target_id":3387,"target_proposition":3388,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":3389,"indexable":300},520,"81201","Entonces, esa visión... de estadista, esa visión de futuro a largo plazo, de tener una planificación estratégica en seguridad pública, una planificación estratégica en infraestructura, una planificación estratégica en salud, en educación.",2577.32,2590.78,"planejamento-urbano","Planificación urbana","fd244fb9-631e-4910-9a20-1c4f0642f672","adoptar planificación estratégica a largo plazo en seguridad, infraestructura, salud y educación","defiende una visión de futuro y planificación estratégica en varias áreas.",{"idx":3391,"utterance_id":3392,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3393,"start_s":3394,"end_s":3395,"word_count":412,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3396,"target_proposition":3397,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1249,"rationale":3398,"indexable":300},521,"81202","Mira los índices del IDEB: el estado que más recauda, que más tiene recursos, que más tiene ciencia, tecnología, investigadores, científicos, que tiene un nivel... altísimo de educadores, de facultades que pueden formar en los cursos de pedagogía, licenciatura plena, está en el séptimo lugar, sexto, séptimo lugar en el IDEB, en el Ensino Fundamental II, en el Ensino Médio, en fin.",2590.86,2613.6,"8f022c65-d134-4c98-b1a2-a1fa3a02655e","mejorar indicadores de la educación básica en el Estado de São Paulo (IDEB)","señala una mala posición en el IDEB pese a los recursos y pide acción.",{"idx":3400,"utterance_id":3401,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3402,"start_s":3403,"end_s":3404,"word_count":198,"topic_slug":2825,"topic_label":2826,"target_id":3258,"target_proposition":3259,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":3405,"indexable":300},522,"81203","Eso es, se hace difícil cuando los números que se presentan, cuando los verificamos, no son la realidad del pueblo paulista.",2615.6,2622.56,"reafirma que los números presentados no reflejan la realidad paulista.",{"idx":3407,"utterance_id":3408,"speaker_name":69,"text":3409,"start_s":3410,"end_s":3411,"word_count":302,"indexable":74},523,"81204","Quería tocar un punto que es lo siguiente: si miramos el tarifazo de Trump, el estado más afectado, que es el estado más industrial, el que más exporta, es el estado de São Paulo.",2622.74,2631.78,{"idx":3413,"utterance_id":3414,"speaker_name":69,"text":3415,"start_s":3416,"end_s":3417,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},524,"81205","¿Cuál es tu evaluación de esa gorra 'Make America Great Again' que él se puso?",2632.32,2636.72,{"idx":3419,"utterance_id":3420,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3421,"start_s":3422,"end_s":3423,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},525,"81206","Mira, puedo ser sincera: creo que él hasta hoy debe tener pesadillas con esa gorra.",2637.52,2641.72,{"idx":3425,"utterance_id":3426,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3427,"start_s":3428,"end_s":3429,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},526,"81207","O sea, él debe decirse así: ay, Dios mío, si el arrepentimiento matara.",2642.48,2645.36,{"idx":3431,"utterance_id":3432,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3433,"start_s":3434,"end_s":3435,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},527,"81208","No porque él no crea en la gorra, sino porque eso tuvo un resultado electoral negativo para él.",2645.58,2651.34,{"idx":3437,"utterance_id":3438,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3439,"start_s":3440,"end_s":3441,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},528,"81209","Creo...",2652.06,2652.62,{"idx":3443,"utterance_id":3444,"speaker_name":69,"text":3445,"start_s":3446,"end_s":3447,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},529,"81210","Pero él lo repite, ¿no?",2653.36,2654.16,{"idx":3449,"utterance_id":3450,"speaker_name":69,"text":3451,"start_s":3452,"end_s":3453,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},530,"81211","Porque, por ejemplo, le dio la medalla a Milley, ¿no?",2654.22,2656.52,{"idx":3455,"utterance_id":3456,"speaker_name":69,"text":3457,"start_s":3458,"end_s":3459,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},531,"81212","¿Cómo lo ves?",2657.66,2658.14,{"idx":3461,"utterance_id":3462,"speaker_name":69,"text":3463,"start_s":3464,"end_s":3465,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},532,"81213","Además de la gorra, Milley, ¿no?",2658.3,2659.44,{"idx":3467,"utterance_id":3468,"speaker_name":69,"text":3469,"start_s":3470,"end_s":3471,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},533,"81214","Creo que eso también es algo importante.",2659.9,2661.22,{"idx":3473,"utterance_id":3474,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3475,"start_s":3476,"end_s":3477,"word_count":182,"topic_slug":3478,"topic_label":3479,"target_id":3480,"target_proposition":3481,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":289,"rationale":3482,"indexable":74},534,"81215","De nuevo... no encontrar en esas figuras a los estadistas, a los líderes que necesitamos para Brasil.",2661.86,2671.3,"governanca-politica","Gobernanza política","a1f4873b-7333-43a7-9bf1-d507d51bfea9","elegir un presidente con credibilidad","dice que faltan estadistas y líderes adecuados para Brasil.",{"idx":3484,"utterance_id":3485,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3486,"start_s":3487,"end_s":3488,"word_count":117,"indexable":74},535,"81216","Porque... Hay dos cosas, y la última ni siquiera la planteo para la extrema derecha, pero hay dos cosas de las que tú, siendo de izquierda, centro o derecha, no puedes prescindir.",2672.1,2681.5,{"idx":3490,"utterance_id":3491,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3492,"start_s":3493,"end_s":3494,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},536,"81217","Y el centro y la izquierda no pueden renunciar a la tercera.",2681.92,2684.4,{"idx":3496,"utterance_id":3497,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3498,"start_s":3499,"end_s":3500,"word_count":119,"topic_slug":3501,"topic_label":3502,"target_id":3503,"target_proposition":3504,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":3505,"indexable":74},537,"81218","Una es la defensa absoluta de la democracia.",2684.58,2686.72,"democracia","Democracia","01012016-184e-4cb1-a7b7-41ecf8424f06","defender la democracia y los derechos civiles","Declara 'defesa absoluta da democracia' como imprescindible.",{"idx":3507,"utterance_id":3508,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3509,"start_s":3510,"end_s":3511,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},538,"81219","Sin democracia no tenemos nada.",2686.78,2688.18,{"idx":3513,"utterance_id":3514,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3515,"start_s":3516,"end_s":3517,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":3501,"topic_label":3502,"target_id":3518,"target_proposition":3519,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":3520,"indexable":300},539,"81220","Y creo que tal vez nos falta a nosotros, a los políticos e incluso a los medios de comunicación, explicar al ciudadano más común, que tiene menos de 50 años, qué es la democracia.",2688.62,2697.02,"dd43fd11-0112-4e2a-87e6-dd3e95fb1629","aclarar y educar a la población sobre el significado de la democracia","Dice que falta explicación sobre la democracia para los ciudadanos más jóvenes.",{"idx":3522,"utterance_id":3523,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3524,"start_s":3525,"end_s":3526,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},540,"81221","Es el derecho de ir y venir.",2697.16,2698.18,{"idx":3528,"utterance_id":3529,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3530,"start_s":3531,"end_s":3532,"word_count":269,"indexable":74},541,"81222","A no ser secuestrado en el camino, a no ser asesinado y tener derecho a un habeas corpus y poder tener la libertad de expresión y poder ser lo que quiera en la vida.",2698.92,2707.38,{"idx":3534,"utterance_id":3535,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3536,"start_s":3537,"end_s":3538,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},542,"81223","La libertad depende de la democracia.",2707.44,2709.4,{"idx":3540,"utterance_id":3541,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3542,"start_s":3543,"end_s":3544,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},543,"81224","Entonces, creo que falta aclaración de ese término tan abstracto.",2710.24,2715.22,{"idx":3546,"utterance_id":3547,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3548,"start_s":3549,"end_s":3550,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},544,"81225","Por eso gran parte de la población dice: ¿hay un problema?",2715.62,2718.52,{"idx":3552,"utterance_id":3553,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3554,"start_s":3555,"end_s":3556,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},545,"81226","¿Hay problema en que Trump venga acá, que Milley diga lo que sea?",2718.8,2721.08,{"idx":3558,"utterance_id":3559,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3560,"start_s":3561,"end_s":3562,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},546,"81227","Lo segundo... Eso falta.",2721.54,2723.5,{"idx":3564,"utterance_id":3565,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3566,"start_s":3567,"end_s":3568,"word_count":124,"topic_slug":3569,"topic_label":3570,"target_id":3571,"target_proposition":3572,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1249,"rationale":3573,"indexable":300},547,"81228","Creo que le falta de su parte esa defensa intransigente, lo que lo coloca en otro campo electoral, político, ideológico.",2723.94,2733.16,"politica-externa-e-diplomacia","Política exterior y diplomacia","42ab25a5-15ef-44a2-95b2-48687102a75a","defender las riquezas y la soberanía nacionales","Afirma que la soberanía debe ser percibida como un valor superior.",{"idx":3575,"utterance_id":3576,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3577,"start_s":3578,"end_s":3579,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},548,"81229","Segundo, la soberanía.",2733.56,2734.56,{"idx":3581,"utterance_id":3582,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3583,"start_s":3584,"end_s":3585,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},549,"81230","La soberanía como algo mucho más grande.",2734.6,2736.08,{"idx":3587,"utterance_id":3588,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3589,"start_s":3590,"end_s":3591,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},550,"81231","Para la percepción del ciudadano común.",2737.02,2739.04,{"idx":3593,"utterance_id":3594,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3595,"start_s":3596,"end_s":3597,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},551,"81232","Defender la patria que no es extranjera.",2739.54,2741.48,{"idx":3599,"utterance_id":3600,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3601,"start_s":3602,"end_s":3603,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},552,"81233","Nuestra bandera jamás será extranjera.",2741.86,2743.8,{"idx":3605,"utterance_id":3606,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3607,"start_s":3608,"end_s":3609,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},553,"81234","Nuestra bandera, ya que a ellos les gusta, y de hecho lo es, pero en fin, verde, amarilla, azul y blanca.",2743.86,2748.2,{"idx":3611,"utterance_id":3612,"speaker_name":69,"text":3613,"start_s":3614,"end_s":3615,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},554,"81235","Además, Haddad ha usado eso siempre, con frecuencia.",2748.5,2751.48,{"idx":3617,"utterance_id":3618,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3619,"start_s":3620,"end_s":3621,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},555,"81236","¿Por qué?",2751.76,2752.16,{"idx":3623,"utterance_id":3624,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3625,"start_s":3626,"end_s":3627,"word_count":256,"topic_slug":3569,"topic_label":3570,"target_id":3628,"target_proposition":3629,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1249,"rationale":3630,"indexable":300},556,"81237","Porque cuando defiendes a otro país contra... tu país y contra el estado que gobiernas, que es el estado que más se va a ver perjudicado, estás diciendo que estás defendiendo que ese país quite los empleos a los paulistas.",2752.72,2767.28,"976b6a4a-811c-4cba-8a25-016a768826c6","priorizar los intereses económicos de Brasil en las relaciones internacionales","Afirma que defender a otro país puede quitar empleos a los paulistas.",{"idx":3632,"utterance_id":3633,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3634,"start_s":3635,"end_s":3636,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},557,"81238","La renta de los paulistas, la tranquilidad de los paulistas, el desarrollo del sector productivo del estado de São Paulo.",2767.8,2774.7,{"idx":3638,"utterance_id":3639,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3640,"start_s":3641,"end_s":3642,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},558,"81239","¿Quién va a perder con el tarifazo?",2775.04,2776.76,{"idx":3644,"utterance_id":3645,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3646,"start_s":3647,"end_s":3648,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},559,"81240","Piracicaba.",2776.96,2777.64,{"idx":3650,"utterance_id":3651,"speaker_name":69,"text":3652,"start_s":3653,"end_s":3654,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},560,"81241","Es el estado que más pierde.",2778.38,2779.22,{"idx":3656,"utterance_id":3657,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3658,"start_s":3659,"end_s":3660,"word_count":97,"topic_slug":3569,"topic_label":3570,"target_id":3661,"target_proposition":3662,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":3663,"indexable":74},561,"81242","El que más pierde en Brasil.",2779.26,2780.3,"11fce533-cc56-41cb-a7c1-a69b90c5ab9e","adoptar políticas comerciales que protejan las exportaciones del estado de São Paulo","Afirma que São Paulo es el estado que más pierde con las tarifas.",{"idx":3665,"utterance_id":3666,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3667,"start_s":3668,"end_s":3669,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},562,"81243","El primer estado, São Paulo; el segundo, Santa Catarina.",2780.64,2783.32,{"idx":3671,"utterance_id":3672,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3673,"start_s":3674,"end_s":3675,"word_count":388,"indexable":74},563,"81244","Mientras hablo de Piracicaba, me refiero... al sector sucroalcooleiro en relación con el etanol, me refiero al sector de la agroindustria, me refiero al calzado de Franca, me refiero a la industria de transformación, a esa industria intermedia que suministra las piezas, del hilo a las piezas, para la industria pesada estadounidense.",2783.76,2805.64,{"idx":3677,"utterance_id":3678,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3679,"start_s":3680,"end_s":3681,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":3569,"topic_label":3570,"target_id":3682,"target_proposition":3683,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2429,"rationale":3684,"indexable":74},564,"81245","Basta ver ahora: se registró una disminución de las exportaciones, la más baja de la historia hacia Estados Unidos, incluso en São Paulo.",2807.14,2815.26,"5e75312d-fae2-4887-8e43-12a8694e42cb","proteger los intereses comerciales brasileños frente a sanciones unilaterales","Relata una disminución histórica de las exportaciones brasileñas hacia EE. UU.",{"idx":3686,"utterance_id":3687,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3688,"start_s":3689,"end_s":3690,"word_count":117,"topic_slug":3569,"topic_label":3570,"target_id":3691,"target_proposition":3692,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":3693,"indexable":300},565,"81246","Entonces, es una visión equivocada del mundo, del país, sin ninguna conciencia, o a veces con conciencia y aun así lo hace, de que está perjudicando al pueblo al que juró.",2815.7,2828.56,"994eb3c4-ade9-441d-afae-261520e012a2","priorizar los intereses nacionales en decisiones de seguridad internacional","Critica la visión que perjudica al pueblo al que juró gobernar.",{"idx":3695,"utterance_id":3696,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3697,"start_s":3698,"end_s":3699,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":3700,"topic_label":3701,"target_id":3702,"target_proposition":3703,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":2810,"rationale":3704,"indexable":300},566,"81247","Respetar y defender —cuando juró sobre la Constitución del Estado de São Paulo— ser un gobernador que va a gobernar para todos.",2829.08,2835.88,"politica-estadual","Política estatal","5c93f3f3-f985-46e2-b1eb-932f0a4bff82","gobernar para todos los habitantes del estado, sin privilegiar intereses extranjeros","Defiende que el gobernador respete el juramento y gobierne para todos.",{"idx":3706,"utterance_id":3707,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3708,"start_s":3709,"end_s":3710,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},567,"81248","Entonces, creo que democracia y soberanía son conceptos que ellos no conocen.",2836.16,2840.5,{"idx":3712,"utterance_id":3713,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3714,"start_s":3715,"end_s":3716,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":3717,"topic_label":3718,"target_id":3719,"target_proposition":3720,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":3721,"indexable":300},568,"81249","Y luego, el tercero es nuestro, pero no se puede exigir de ellos, que es la lucha por la reducción de la desigualdad, que yo siempre me gusta agrupar todo como derechos sociales.",2840.8,2850.1,"desigualdade-socioeconomica","Desigualdad Socioeconómica","236617d4-cf7d-46e2-944b-491d018db02c","reducir la desigualdad socioeconómica","Declara la lucha por la reducción de la desigualdad como prioridad.",{"idx":3723,"utterance_id":3724,"speaker_name":69,"text":3725,"start_s":3726,"end_s":3727,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},569,"81250","Y solo haciendo un apunte, publicamos hoy una encuesta: el 70% de los argentinos repudian lo que Milê ha hecho respecto al presidente Lula y al Brasil en general.",2850.72,2863.64,{"idx":3729,"utterance_id":3730,"speaker_name":69,"text":3731,"start_s":3732,"end_s":3733,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},570,"81251","Es decir, ni siquiera los argentinos están de acuerdo con ese tipo de comportamiento.",2864.08,2869.18,{"idx":3735,"utterance_id":3736,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3737,"start_s":3738,"end_s":3739,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},571,"81252","Incluso terminé no hablando sobre Milê, porque estuve mucho en Estados Unidos.",2869.22,2871.84,{"idx":3741,"utterance_id":3742,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3743,"start_s":3744,"end_s":3745,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},572,"81253","Milê aún tiene un agravante.",2872.06,2873.36,{"idx":3747,"utterance_id":3748,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3749,"start_s":3750,"end_s":3751,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},573,"81254","Un agravante mayor, porque entre Estados Unidos y Argentina, Argentina sigue siendo nuestro mayor socio comercial.",2874.14,2879.72,{"idx":3753,"utterance_id":3754,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3755,"start_s":3756,"end_s":3757,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},574,"81255","Argentina depende de Brasil; Brasil, menos en relación con Argentina.",2879.76,2883.9,{"idx":3759,"utterance_id":3760,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3761,"start_s":3762,"end_s":3763,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},575,"81256","Y estamos hablando de más de dos siglos de diplomacia.",2884.56,2889.04,{"idx":3765,"utterance_id":3766,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3767,"start_s":3768,"end_s":3769,"word_count":95,"topic_slug":3569,"topic_label":3570,"target_id":3770,"target_proposition":3771,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1249,"rationale":3772,"indexable":300},576,"81257","Estamos hablando de una invasión, porque hubo una invasión; no fue una invasión verbal.",2889.64,2894.58,"51a951d0-bec7-464d-89cf-07c4dada7352","resistir a presiones y no ser sumiso en las relaciones bilaterales","Clasifica la acción como una invasión a la soberanía popular.",{"idx":3774,"utterance_id":3775,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3776,"start_s":3777,"end_s":3778,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},577,"81258","No fue una invasión verbal al presidente; fue una invasión a la soberanía.",2895.56,2900.8,{"idx":3780,"utterance_id":3781,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3782,"start_s":3783,"end_s":3784,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},578,"81259","Del pueblo que eligió democráticamente a un presidente.",2901.48,2904.2,{"idx":3786,"utterance_id":3787,"speaker_name":69,"text":3788,"start_s":3789,"end_s":3790,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},579,"81260","Es decir, todos fueron agredidos.",2904.32,2905.24,{"idx":3792,"utterance_id":3793,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3794,"start_s":3795,"end_s":3796,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},580,"81261","Es la soberanía popular.",2905.7,2907.22,{"idx":3798,"utterance_id":3799,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3800,"start_s":3801,"end_s":3802,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},581,"81262","Fue una invasión al pueblo brasileño.",2907.42,2909.24,{"idx":3804,"utterance_id":3805,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3806,"start_s":3807,"end_s":3808,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},582,"81263","Aquellos que votaron y los que no votaron, pero que están obligados a respetar el resultado de las urnas.",2909.64,2913.2,{"idx":3810,"utterance_id":3811,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3812,"start_s":3813,"end_s":3814,"word_count":412,"topic_slug":3569,"topic_label":3570,"target_id":3815,"target_proposition":3816,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1249,"rationale":3817,"indexable":300},583,"81264","Y en un método de concepción que se dio ahora, esta semana, por parte del gobierno americano, en esa respuesta a la OMC, que dijo: mira, Brasil tiene derecho a discutir la relación comercial, y Estados Unidos dijeron lo siguiente: no, eso no me sirve, porque yo estoy... aquí con un ascenso político, comercial, ideológico sobre las Américas.",2914.34,2936.5,"fb826eba-4509-40d9-b734-11050ccb6105","defender el derecho de Brasil a discutir relaciones comerciales en la OMC","Resalta el derecho de Brasil a discutir cuestiones comerciales en la OMC.",{"idx":3819,"utterance_id":3820,"speaker_name":69,"text":3821,"start_s":3822,"end_s":3823,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},584,"81265","Hoy hubo una publicación del Departamento de Estado en ese sentido, sobre hegemonía.",2937.36,2940.96,{"idx":3825,"utterance_id":3826,"speaker_name":69,"text":3827,"start_s":3828,"end_s":3829,"word_count":256,"indexable":74},585,"81266","Pero quiero preguntarte sobre tu elección al Senado, porque la primera crítica que llega es: tú ya fuiste senadora por tu estado natal; lo que ocurre es lo siguiente: son tres senadores por estado, el senador tiene que defender ese estado.",2941.56,2954.28,{"idx":3831,"utterance_id":3832,"speaker_name":69,"text":3833,"start_s":3834,"end_s":3835,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},586,"81267","Y entonces tus competidores dirán: pero ella no es paulista, ella no nació aquí.",2954.32,2958.42,{"idx":3837,"utterance_id":3838,"speaker_name":69,"text":3839,"start_s":3840,"end_s":3841,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},587,"81268","¿Cuál es tu respuesta a eso?",2958.9,2960.16,{"idx":3843,"utterance_id":3844,"speaker_name":69,"text":3845,"start_s":3846,"end_s":3847,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":3848,"topic_label":3849,"target_id":3850,"target_proposition":3851,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2581,"rationale":3852,"indexable":74},588,"81269","¿Cómo vas a defender São Paulo sin ser, digamos, un 'duco ou duco', esa cosa, ¿no?",2960.96,2964.7,"politica-economica-desenvolvimento-regional","Política Económica \u002F Desarrollo Regional","6b7a2907-c0fd-4452-94a0-ab5c58a26daa","defender los intereses del estado de São Paulo","Pregunta cómo ella defendería São Paulo, sin tomar posición propia.",{"idx":3854,"utterance_id":3855,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3856,"start_s":3857,"end_s":3858,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},589,"81270","Bueno, primero que São Paulo está hecho por las manos de todos los brasileños.",2965.32,2969.96,{"idx":3860,"utterance_id":3861,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3862,"start_s":3863,"end_s":3864,"word_count":269,"indexable":74},590,"81271","São Paulo tiene en su ADN esa mezcla maravillosa de diversidad, de inmigrantes, como mi abuelo que vino para acá y comenzó la vida hace muy poco tiempo, pero empezó en el interior de São Paulo.",2970.22,2980.02,{"idx":3866,"utterance_id":3867,"speaker_name":69,"text":3868,"start_s":3869,"end_s":3870,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},591,"81272","También los brasileños, hay espacio aquí, mira.",2980.06,2981.36,{"idx":3872,"utterance_id":3873,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3874,"start_s":3875,"end_s":3876,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},592,"81273","¿No?",2981.54,2982.12,{"idx":3878,"utterance_id":3879,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3880,"start_s":3881,"end_s":3882,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},593,"81274","Como... Norte, Nordeste, Sur, Centro-Oeste.",2982.58,2985.78,{"idx":3884,"utterance_id":3885,"speaker_name":69,"text":3886,"start_s":3887,"end_s":3888,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},594,"81275","Cabe todo, ¿no?",2985.82,2986.44,{"idx":3890,"utterance_id":3891,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3892,"start_s":3893,"end_s":3894,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},595,"81276","Primero eso.",2986.96,2987.62,{"idx":3896,"utterance_id":3897,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3898,"start_s":3899,"end_s":3900,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},596,"81277","Y la fantástica frase de Alckmin resume esta primera parte.",2987.78,2990.72,{"idx":3902,"utterance_id":3903,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3904,"start_s":3905,"end_s":3906,"word_count":171,"indexable":74},597,"81278","São Paulo es la única tierra en el mundo donde un japonés habla portugués con acento italiano.",2991.54,2995.86,{"idx":3908,"utterance_id":3909,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3910,"start_s":3911,"end_s":3912,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},598,"81279","Primero eso, ¿no?",2997.18,2997.98,{"idx":3914,"utterance_id":3915,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3916,"start_s":3917,"end_s":3918,"word_count":198,"indexable":74},599,"81280","São Paulo no sería lo que es sin esa mezcla de pueblos, de razas, de lengua, de cultura y todo lo demás.",2998.1,3004.32,{"idx":3920,"utterance_id":3921,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3922,"start_s":3923,"end_s":3924,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},600,"81281","Segundo, que no soy una neófila.",3004.76,3006.2,{"idx":3926,"utterance_id":3927,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3928,"start_s":3929,"end_s":3930,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},601,"81282","Ya fui votada en São Paulo.",3006.3,3007.74,{"idx":3932,"utterance_id":3933,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3934,"start_s":3935,"end_s":3936,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},602,"81283","El estado que más acogió mis ideas.",3008.08,3010.18,{"idx":3938,"utterance_id":3939,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3940,"start_s":3941,"end_s":3942,"word_count":95,"indexable":74},603,"81284","Tuve casi el 9% de... los votos de la capital, en una elección absolutamente polarizada en 2022.",3010.72,3016.28,{"idx":3944,"utterance_id":3945,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3946,"start_s":3947,"end_s":3948,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},604,"81285","Entonces fui votada en São Paulo.",3016.68,3018.62,{"idx":3950,"utterance_id":3951,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3952,"start_s":3953,"end_s":3954,"word_count":267,"indexable":74},605,"81286","Aunque una fotografía es una fotografía, se respeta, y voy a respetar cualquier resultado de las urnas; seré la primera en respetar cualquier resultado de las urnas; hoy ya se constata que hay una aceptación respecto a mi nombre.",3019.24,3031.34,{"idx":3956,"utterance_id":3957,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3958,"start_s":3959,"end_s":3960,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},606,"81287","No soy la más rechazada en São Paulo.",3032.2,3033.88,{"idx":3962,"utterance_id":3963,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3964,"start_s":3965,"end_s":3966,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},607,"81288","Estoy disputando allí, numéricamente, los dos primeros lugares en el proceso.",3034.34,3039.84,{"idx":3968,"utterance_id":3969,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3970,"start_s":3971,"end_s":3972,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},608,"81289","Mis hijas viven aquí desde hace 10 años.",3041.16,3042.9,{"idx":3974,"utterance_id":3975,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3976,"start_s":3977,"end_s":3978,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},609,"81290","Nací en la frontera; conozco todo el noroeste paulista.",3043.22,3046.18,{"idx":3980,"utterance_id":3981,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3982,"start_s":3983,"end_s":3984,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},610,"81291","Pocas personas conocen, quizá desde aquí, el noroeste paulista.",3046.4,3050.02,{"idx":3986,"utterance_id":3987,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3988,"start_s":3989,"end_s":3990,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},611,"81292","Mi madrina es de Arassatuba, mi marido es de Birigui, yo, como dije, soy corintiana, él es palmeirense.",3050.66,3056.04,{"idx":3992,"utterance_id":3993,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":3994,"start_s":3995,"end_s":3996,"word_count":27,"indexable":74},612,"81293","Así, aun tengo familia en la región de Marília, y estudié en São Paulo, hice maestría en São Paulo, tengo propiedad en São Paulo, pago impuestos en São Paulo.",3056.48,3066.02,{"idx":3998,"utterance_id":3999,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4000,"start_s":4001,"end_s":4002,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},613,"81294","Así... Son pocas las regiones que no conozco en São Paulo.",3066.5,3070.7,{"idx":4004,"utterance_id":4005,"speaker_name":69,"text":4006,"start_s":4007,"end_s":4008,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},614,"81295","Marcos siempre pregunta cuál es la dirección de Tarcísio en São Paulo.",3070.74,3074.7,{"idx":4010,"utterance_id":4011,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4012,"start_s":4013,"end_s":4014,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},615,"81296","Son pocas las regiones de São Paulo que no conozco.",3074.74,3076.5,{"idx":4016,"utterance_id":4017,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4018,"start_s":4019,"end_s":4020,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},616,"81297","Conozco la región administrativa de Arassatuba, la región administrativa de Marília, la región administrativa de Bauru.",3076.54,3081.2,{"idx":4022,"utterance_id":4023,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4024,"start_s":4025,"end_s":4026,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},617,"81298","Conozco la región administrativa de São José do Rio Preto.",3081.34,3084.92,{"idx":4028,"utterance_id":4029,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4030,"start_s":4031,"end_s":4032,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},618,"81299","Conozco la región metropolitana porque venía a São Paulo en estos últimos 10 años por mis hijas.",3085.46,3093.02,{"idx":4034,"utterance_id":4035,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4036,"start_s":4037,"end_s":4038,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},619,"81300","En fin, la región es complicada.",3093.1,3095.12,{"idx":4040,"utterance_id":4041,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4042,"start_s":4043,"end_s":4044,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},620,"81301","La costa: tengo una propiedad en la costa.",3095.5,3097.22,{"idx":4046,"utterance_id":4047,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4048,"start_s":4049,"end_s":4050,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},621,"81302","Es muy pequeñita, ¿eh, gente?",3097.28,3098.32,{"idx":4052,"utterance_id":4053,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4054,"start_s":4055,"end_s":4056,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},622,"81303","Estoy diciendo, parece que... es que me llaman mega propietaria.",3098.36,3101.08,{"idx":4058,"utterance_id":4059,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4060,"start_s":4061,"end_s":4062,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},623,"81304","Tengo un apartamento pequeñito.",3101.12,3102.66,{"idx":894,"utterance_id":4064,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4065,"start_s":4066,"end_s":4067,"word_count":359,"indexable":74},"81305","A 400 metros de la playa, entonces ni siquiera está en la orilla de la playa allí en Guarujá, entonces, pues, iba a pasar, cuando podía, Eleitoral Norte, que para mí es una de las playas más bellas, pero así, allí más en la Baixada Santista, en la región de Guarujá, Bertioga, Santos, en fin.",3102.68,3118.22,{"idx":64,"utterance_id":4069,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4070,"start_s":4071,"end_s":4072,"word_count":269,"indexable":74},"81306","Y la particularidad de São Paulo, São Paulo tiene una particularidad socioeconómica muy parecida a la ciudad donde nací, que es de la agroindustria, del agronegocio, sobre todo el interior más distante de São Paulo.",3121.78,3135.38,{"idx":4074,"utterance_id":4075,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4076,"start_s":4077,"end_s":4078,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},626,"81307","Pero, de nuevo, gente, la última palabra la tiene el elector.",3135.82,3139.22,{"idx":4080,"utterance_id":4081,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4082,"start_s":4083,"end_s":4084,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},627,"81308","Así que será el elector quien decida.",3139.88,3141.3,{"idx":4086,"utterance_id":4087,"speaker_name":69,"text":4088,"start_s":4089,"end_s":4090,"word_count":117,"indexable":74},628,"81309","Te daré un testimonio rápido, porque no soy entrevistada, pero vine a São Paulo justo después de graduarme, trabajé en... Abril, en fin, Editora 3, varios lugares.",3141.72,3150.02,{"idx":4092,"utterance_id":4093,"speaker_name":69,"text":4094,"start_s":4095,"end_s":4096,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},629,"81310","Y nunca fue un problema no ser paulista, ¿no?",3150.78,3153.08,{"idx":4098,"utterance_id":4099,"speaker_name":69,"text":4100,"start_s":4101,"end_s":4102,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},630,"81311","Quiero decir, creo que en todos los lugares los paulistas no eran la mayoría y aunque lo fueran tampoco les importaba de dónde venías.",3153.14,3159.06,{"idx":4104,"utterance_id":4105,"speaker_name":69,"text":4106,"start_s":4107,"end_s":4108,"word_count":142,"indexable":74},631,"81312","Siempre pensé que eso en São Paulo era lo mejor, ¿no?",3159.2,3161.5,{"idx":4110,"utterance_id":4111,"speaker_name":69,"text":4112,"start_s":4113,"end_s":4114,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},632,"81313","Quiero decir, entonces, en otros estados es diferente.",3161.56,3164.52,{"idx":4116,"utterance_id":4117,"speaker_name":69,"text":4118,"start_s":4119,"end_s":4120,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},633,"81314","Los otros estados son más localistas.",3164.6,3165.8,{"idx":4122,"utterance_id":4123,"speaker_name":69,"text":4124,"start_s":4125,"end_s":4126,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},634,"81315","Después trabajé en Minas, no es lo mismo.",3165.84,3167.82,{"idx":4128,"utterance_id":4129,"speaker_name":69,"text":4130,"start_s":4131,"end_s":4132,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},635,"81316","Ahí me llamaban paulista sin ser paulista.",3168.2,3169.94,{"idx":4134,"utterance_id":4135,"speaker_name":69,"text":4136,"start_s":4137,"end_s":4138,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},636,"81317","En fin, hay toda esa historia.",3170.04,3171.14,{"idx":4140,"utterance_id":4141,"speaker_name":69,"text":4142,"start_s":4143,"end_s":4144,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},637,"81318","São Paulo es diferente.",3171.6,3172.82,{"idx":4146,"utterance_id":4147,"speaker_name":69,"text":4148,"start_s":4149,"end_s":4150,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},638,"81319","São Paulo es un estado realmente acogedor, ¿no?",3172.88,3176.34,{"idx":4152,"utterance_id":4153,"speaker_name":69,"text":4154,"start_s":4155,"end_s":4156,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},639,"81320","Pero ahora quiero preguntarte otra cosa.",3177.06,3178.42,{"idx":4158,"utterance_id":4159,"speaker_name":69,"text":4160,"start_s":4161,"end_s":4162,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},640,"81321","Vamos a imaginar que todo salga bien, las encuestas indican el éxito de tu candidatura y también la de Marina Silva.",3178.48,3186.88,{"idx":4164,"utterance_id":4165,"speaker_name":69,"text":4166,"start_s":4167,"end_s":4168,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},641,"81322","Haddad tiene un desafío mayor, todo el mundo lo está siguiendo.",3187.88,3190.14,{"idx":4170,"utterance_id":4171,"speaker_name":69,"text":4172,"start_s":4173,"end_s":4174,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},642,"81323","Pero imaginemos que el presidente Lula sea elegido.",3191.44,3194.12,{"idx":4176,"utterance_id":4177,"speaker_name":69,"text":4178,"start_s":4179,"end_s":4180,"word_count":105,"indexable":74},643,"81324","Y te hago una invitación.",3194.5,3195.48,{"idx":4182,"utterance_id":4183,"speaker_name":69,"text":4184,"start_s":4185,"end_s":4186,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":4187,"topic_label":4188,"target_id":4189,"target_proposition":4190,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2581,"rationale":4191,"indexable":74},644,"81325","¿Pretendes cumplir tu mandato como senadora?",3196.14,3198.38,"poder-legislativo","Poder legislativo","bbdd269c-8572-4fb0-ae43-cf8bded55a0d","cumplir el mandato como senadora hasta el final","Pregunta sobre la intención de permanecer en el mandato o aceptar un cargo.",{"idx":4193,"utterance_id":4194,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4195,"start_s":4196,"end_s":4197,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":4187,"topic_label":4188,"target_id":4189,"target_proposition":4190,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":4198,"indexable":300},645,"81326","Yo no; primero que no creo que el presidente me invite, a no ser que sea algo así, del tipo 'te invito solo por invitar', pero no es para aceptar, ¿eh, Simone?",3199.2,3205.06,"Declara 'eu não' aceptar invitación e indica preferencia por permanecer en el Senado.",{"idx":4200,"utterance_id":4201,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4202,"start_s":4203,"end_s":4204,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},646,"81327","Va a ser, creo que va a ser eso.",3205.16,3206.22,{"idx":4206,"utterance_id":4207,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4208,"start_s":4209,"end_s":4210,"word_count":21,"indexable":74},647,"81328","Porque el mayor enfrentamiento, él tiene mucha gente competente, y lo que no falta en Brasil es gente competente para asumir cualquier ministerio.",3206.74,3213.52,{"idx":4212,"utterance_id":4213,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4214,"start_s":4215,"end_s":4216,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},648,"81329","Así que no me necesita.",3214.02,3214.9,{"idx":4218,"utterance_id":4219,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4220,"start_s":4221,"end_s":4222,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},649,"81330","Yo ya fui ministra.",3215.64,3216.4,{"idx":4224,"utterance_id":4225,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4226,"start_s":4227,"end_s":4228,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":4229,"topic_label":4230,"target_id":4231,"target_proposition":4232,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":4233,"indexable":300},650,"81331","Lo que va a necesitar es una muralla de contención contra los retrocesos civilizatorios que puedan venir.",3217.14,3223.96,"democracia-e-participacao-eleitoral","Democracia y participación electoral","7b74b1b8-cd46-4773-bbbf-cdcd7b2f7cb8","preservar la credibilidad y la independencia de las instituciones democráticas","Propone crear una 'muralha de contenção' en el Senado contra los retrocesos.",{"idx":4235,"utterance_id":4236,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4237,"start_s":4238,"end_s":4239,"word_count":88,"topic_slug":4229,"topic_label":4230,"target_id":4240,"target_proposition":4241,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":289,"rationale":4242,"indexable":74},651,"81332","En el Senado Federal, la tendencia hoy es ser mayoritariamente, cuando digo de derecha, de esa derecha extremista que coquetea con preceptos inconstitucionales.",3224.3,3236.04,"cda5fe40-25bb-47b7-a494-20e5f479c6dc","proteger la Constitución Federal y las cláusulas pétreas","Describe una tendencia de mayoría de derecha extremista que coquetea con la inconstitucionalidad.",{"idx":4244,"utterance_id":4245,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4246,"start_s":4247,"end_s":4248,"word_count":341,"topic_slug":4229,"topic_label":4230,"target_id":4240,"target_proposition":4241,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2429,"rationale":4249,"indexable":74},652,"81333","El gran problema de la democracia hoy es el bando de ellos; no el centro-derecha o la derecha conservadora democrática; es que ellos lleguen a 48 senadores y tengan quórum para cambiar la Constitución Federal, porque entonces cambian todo.",3237.52,3252.68,"Alerta sobre el riesgo de quórum para cambiar la Constitución sin proponer una acción específica.",{"idx":4251,"utterance_id":4252,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4253,"start_s":4254,"end_s":4255,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},653,"81334","Pueden cambiarlo todo.",3253.32,3254.26,{"idx":4257,"utterance_id":4258,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4259,"start_s":4260,"end_s":4261,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":4262,"topic_label":4263,"target_id":4264,"target_proposition":4265,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":4266,"indexable":300},654,"81335","Incluso las cláusulas pétreas: no van a decir que son pétreas y van a querer cambiar la estructura de los poderes, van a querer quitar derechos duramente conquistados por todos nosotros, incluidas las mujeres.",3254.4,3265.92,"igualdade-de-genero-no-trabalho-e-direitos-trabalhistas","Igualdad de género en el trabajo","0d1405e7-99b7-4d2f-9c43-dca918024ecd","preservar los derechos civiles y los derechos de las mujeres","Defiende mantener los derechos conquistados, citando específicamente a las mujeres.",{"idx":4268,"utterance_id":4269,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4270,"start_s":4271,"end_s":4272,"word_count":154,"topic_slug":4229,"topic_label":4230,"target_id":4231,"target_proposition":4232,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":4273,"indexable":300},655,"81336","Así que vamos a tener que librar una batalla, una muralla de contención.",3266.84,3270.6,"Afirma la necesidad de 'batalha' y 'muralha de contenção' contra los retrocesos.",{"idx":4275,"utterance_id":4276,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4277,"start_s":4278,"end_s":4279,"word_count":319,"indexable":74},656,"81337","Yo, en mi vida, nací... Simone de Beauvoir tiene una frase maravillosa; me llamo Simone porque mi padre me puso el nombre de Simone porque le gustaba... Paul Sartre, compañero de Simone de Beauvoir.",3271.3,3283.56,{"idx":4281,"utterance_id":4282,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4283,"start_s":4284,"end_s":4285,"word_count":97,"indexable":74},657,"81338","Entonces, así, al menos...",3283.6,3284.48,{"idx":4287,"utterance_id":4288,"speaker_name":69,"text":4289,"start_s":4290,"end_s":4291,"word_count":119,"indexable":74},658,"81339","Entonces tu padre era un izquierdista existencialista.",3284.52,3287.3,{"idx":4293,"utterance_id":4294,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4295,"start_s":4296,"end_s":4297,"word_count":229,"indexable":74},659,"81340","Él era del centro, creo que era de centro-izquierda y le gustaba, así, la agenda de derechos humanos era una agenda que siempre atrajo mucho a mi padre.",3287.68,3296.96,{"idx":4299,"utterance_id":4300,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4301,"start_s":4302,"end_s":4303,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},660,"81341","Y entonces mi padre y Simone de Beauvoir... Beauvoir tiene una frase maravillosa: la mujer no nace mujer, se hace mujer.",3298.08,3303.78,{"idx":4305,"utterance_id":4306,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4307,"start_s":4308,"end_s":4309,"word_count":148,"indexable":74},661,"81342","Porque una se convierte en mujer en el dolor, en el enfrentamiento, en el coraje.",3304.06,3307.32,{"idx":4311,"utterance_id":4312,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4313,"start_s":4314,"end_s":4315,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},662,"81343","Nací en el interior del interior, era absolutamente tímida.",3307.68,3310.38,{"idx":4317,"utterance_id":4318,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4319,"start_s":4320,"end_s":4321,"word_count":154,"indexable":74},663,"81344","Nunca fui líder de clase, nunca fui oradora, no sé qué.",3310.42,3313.74,{"idx":4323,"utterance_id":4324,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4325,"start_s":4326,"end_s":4327,"word_count":126,"indexable":74},664,"81345","He ido construyendo eso en el dolor, en la necesidad.",3313.86,3317.04,{"idx":4329,"utterance_id":4330,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4331,"start_s":4332,"end_s":4333,"word_count":110,"indexable":74},665,"81346","Entonces, hoy siento que necesito estar en el Senado Federal, si soy elegida, porque esa fue tu pregunta, ¿no?",3317.7,3324.64,{"idx":4335,"utterance_id":4336,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4337,"start_s":4338,"end_s":4339,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":4187,"topic_label":4188,"target_id":4189,"target_proposition":4190,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":4340,"indexable":300},666,"81347","Si soy elegida, necesito estar en el Senado Federal.",3325.12,3327.86,"Declara que necesita estar en el Senado para enfrentar retrocesos políticos.",{"idx":4342,"utterance_id":4343,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4344,"start_s":4345,"end_s":4346,"word_count":324,"indexable":74},667,"81348","Porque hoy tengo la experiencia de ocho años como senadora, tengo la valentía que no tenía en el pasado, tengo el know-how de haber sido alcaldesa, vicegobernadora, senadora, diputada estadual, ministra de Estado, candidata a la presidencia de la República, conozco todo Brasil, para que podamos hacer frente a esto.",3328.3,3346.62,{"idx":4348,"utterance_id":4349,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4350,"start_s":4351,"end_s":4352,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":3848,"topic_label":3849,"target_id":4353,"target_proposition":4354,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1094,"rationale":4355,"indexable":74},668,"81349","Y paralelamente... proyectar São Paulo nuevamente.",3346.96,3349.7,"3749f986-eb36-40d0-b81c-5e0c94cd725f","promover el desarrollo económico de São Paulo","Propone 'projetar São Paulo novamente', indicando acción de desarrollo.",{"idx":4357,"utterance_id":4358,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4359,"start_s":4360,"end_s":4361,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},669,"81350","São Paulo no puede arrastrar al Brasil hacia atrás.",3349.76,3351.72,{"idx":4363,"utterance_id":4364,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4365,"start_s":4366,"end_s":4367,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":3848,"topic_label":3849,"target_id":4368,"target_proposition":4369,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":2429,"rationale":4370,"indexable":74},670,"81351","Y el año pasado, São Paulo arrastró al Brasil hacia atrás, porque Brasil creció 2,5%, São Paulo creció medio punto.",3351.76,3356.74,"0ca4d610-6ae6-4cea-b0c2-446738b1370e","promover el crecimiento económico de São Paulo","Presenta una estadística comparativa sobre el crecimiento económico (SP vs Brasil).",{"idx":61,"utterance_id":4372,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4373,"start_s":4374,"end_s":4375,"word_count":275,"indexable":74},"81352","Si São Paulo representa casi una cuarta parte del PIB, incluso más como fuerza motriz de Brasil, cuando São Paulo crece solo medio punto... tengo un factor que complica: que ellos tiran hacia abajo.",3357.26,3371.38,{"idx":4377,"utterance_id":4378,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4379,"start_s":4380,"end_s":4381,"word_count":160,"topic_slug":3848,"topic_label":3849,"target_id":4382,"target_proposition":4383,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":4384,"indexable":300},672,"81353","Por lo tanto, creo que tenemos algunos deberes que cumplir respecto a São Paulo.",3371.44,3374.7,"e39e265e-c0de-4f5a-be1b-2d6e2f83099f","atraer más recursos federales y obras para São Paulo","Afirma tener 'deveres' que cumplir en relación con el desarrollo de São Paulo.",{"idx":4386,"utterance_id":4387,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4388,"start_s":4389,"end_s":4390,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":3848,"topic_label":3849,"target_id":4391,"target_proposition":4392,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":1769,"rationale":4393,"indexable":300},673,"81354","Traer el máximo posible de enmiendas, de fondos, de obras, de infraestructura, eso sin duda, pero abrir el gabinete, como senador, a los 645 municipios.",3375,3384.96,"7dc4924c-1c55-4e31-9123-49af3f30491d","atraer enmiendas, fondos y obras federales para São Paulo","Propone 'trazer o máximo possível de emendas, verbas, obras, infraestrutura'.",{"idx":4395,"utterance_id":4396,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4397,"start_s":4398,"end_s":4399,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":4400,"topic_label":4401,"target_id":4402,"target_proposition":4403,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":327,"rationale":4404,"indexable":74},674,"81355","Siempre fui municipalista mientras fui alcaldesa.",3385.26,3387.2,"gestao-publica-e-administracao-estadual","Gestión pública y administración estatal","057d699d-bb27-4b4c-ba44-46f93914840e","descentralizar la gestión pública federal hacia los estados y municipios","Afirma 'sempre fui municipalista' defendiendo una gestión municipal fuerte.",{"idx":4406,"utterance_id":4407,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4408,"start_s":4409,"end_s":4410,"word_count":124,"topic_slug":3848,"topic_label":3849,"target_id":4411,"target_proposition":4412,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":298,"rationale":4413,"indexable":300},675,"81356","Es necesario este nexo de enlace, de Brasília con el interior de São Paulo, de Brasília con la capital.",3387.58,3393.48,"9dff63e8-34b3-42a0-9588-f14f9cef26a7","fortalecer el vínculo entre Brasília y los municipios del interior de São Paulo","Defiende 'elo de ligação' entre Brasilia y el interior\u002Fla capital de São Paulo.",{"idx":4415,"utterance_id":4416,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4417,"start_s":4418,"end_s":4419,"word_count":485,"topic_slug":4229,"topic_label":4230,"target_id":4420,"target_proposition":4421,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":4422,"indexable":300},676,"81357","Entonces, además de la agenda... democracia, soberanía, instituciones, no aceptar retrocesos y algunas agendas que tenemos que construir juntos, de avances, tenemos que mirar a São Paulo con otra mirada, especialmente en la industria del futuro, que implica la ciencia, que implica la tecnología, que implica la discusión de tierras raras, que implica la discusión de centros de datos, de inteligencia artificial, la cuestión de las redes sociales.",3393.8,3420.34,"e2a765ee-cc86-4470-9e46-32d4ab527883","proteger el Estado democrático de derecho contra sesgos autoritarios","Afirma 'não aceitar retrocessos' y la necesidad de proteger las instituciones.",{"idx":4424,"utterance_id":4425,"speaker_name":69,"text":4426,"start_s":4427,"end_s":4428,"word_count":473,"indexable":74},677,"81358","Simônia, podríamos quedarnos aquí otra hora, dos horas más; sé que tienes compromisos, quiero desearte buena suerte, en nombre de todo nuestro público de TV 247, esperar que tengamos otras oportunidades, y en fin, desear buena suerte a ti y a todo tu equipo, en fin, a todo tu frente que compone este campo progresista.",3421.44,3441.66,{"idx":4430,"utterance_id":4431,"speaker_name":69,"text":4432,"start_s":4433,"end_s":4434,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},678,"81359","Muchas gracias.",3441.72,3442.22,{"idx":4436,"utterance_id":4437,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4438,"start_s":4439,"end_s":4440,"word_count":302,"indexable":74},679,"81360","Soy yo quien agradece, y nuevamente agradeciendo la forma siempre cariñosa con que todo el equipo del 247 nos recibió, siempre con mucho, mucho alto nivel, en este enfrentamiento democrático siempre sano y que es tan necesario y que tanto falta.",3442.28,3457.98,{"idx":4442,"utterance_id":4443,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4444,"start_s":4445,"end_s":4446,"word_count":281,"topic_slug":4447,"topic_label":4448,"target_id":4449,"target_proposition":4450,"stance":297,"stance_confidence":503,"rationale":4451,"indexable":300},680,"81361","Que los medios de comunicación continúen con la misma valentía para hacer frente, a través del buen periodismo, frente a las fake news, las mentiras, las falsedades, porque democracia sin verdad, democracia sin prensa libre, no existe.",3458.04,3472.6,"polarizacao-e-desinformacao","Polarización y desinformación","76cc8815-cf78-4803-955e-6412986bc18e","combatir narrativas y desinformación de la extrema derecha que minan las políticas públicas","Pide una prensa valiente contra las noticias falsas y afirma que una prensa libre es esencial.",{"idx":4453,"utterance_id":4454,"speaker_name":99,"speaker_slug":100,"text":4455,"start_s":4456,"end_s":4457,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},681,"81362","Entonces, muchas gracias.",3472.66,3473.42,{"idx":4459,"utterance_id":4460,"speaker_name":69,"text":4461,"start_s":4462,"end_s":4463,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},682,"81363","Eso es.",3473.6,3473.86,{"idx":4465,"utterance_id":4466,"speaker_name":69,"text":4467,"start_s":4468,"end_s":4469,"word_count":90,"indexable":74},683,"81364","Gracias a 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