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tarea.",309.68,326.08,{"idx":376,"utterance_id":377,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":378,"start_s":379,"end_s":380,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},61,"189230","Que los Estados Unidos ahora han establecido un arancel del 25%; eso puede comprometer varias agendas brasileñas.",326.92,333.1,{"idx":382,"utterance_id":383,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":384,"start_s":385,"end_s":386,"word_count":124,"indexable":13},62,"189231","Ahora, es un gigante: Estados Unidos es la mayor economía del mundo, pero está superendeudado.",333.9,339.86,{"idx":388,"utterance_id":389,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":390,"start_s":391,"end_s":392,"word_count":262,"indexable":13},63,"189232","La deuda estadounidense se aproxima a los 40 billones de dólares, deben... Si tomas la deuda de los estados, de las personas y la deuda federal, suma casi 100 billones, o algo más de 100 billones de dólares, casi el PIB mundial.",340.52,356.26,{"idx":394,"utterance_id":395,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":396,"start_s":397,"end_s":398,"word_count":142,"indexable":13},64,"189233","La desesperación de Estados Unidos, detrás del escenario, está en la necesidad de resolver una ecuación gravísima, que es su deuda.",356.8,364.06,{"idx":400,"utterance_id":401,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":402,"start_s":403,"end_s":404,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},65,"189234","Ahora, no pueden resolver la deuda solo imponiendo aranceles a Brasil y perjudicando nuestra economía.",364.5,370.12,{"idx":406,"utterance_id":407,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":408,"start_s":409,"end_s":410,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},66,"189235","Será una relación excelente, pero cara a cara.",370.22,374.42,{"idx":412,"utterance_id":413,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":414,"start_s":415,"end_s":416,"word_count":154,"indexable":13},67,"189236","Y si nos imponen aranceles en algunos asuntos, en algunos temas, también tenemos que imponerlos, porque no podemos estar en una condición de sumisión.",374.98,384.04,{"idx":418,"utterance_id":419,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":420,"start_s":421,"end_s":422,"word_count":84,"indexable":13},68,"189237","Tiene que ser una relación seria, pacífica, pero inteligente y de igualdad.",384.34,389.04,{"idx":424,"utterance_id":425,"speaker_name":8,"text":426,"start_s":427,"end_s":428,"word_count":42,"indexable":13},69,"189238","Adelante, adelante, Dani.",391.18,391.96,{"idx":430,"utterance_id":431,"speaker_name":8,"text":432,"start_s":433,"end_s":434,"word_count":191,"indexable":13},70,"189239","Muy rápidamente, entonces, lo que usted defiende es, agotadas las negociaciones, una política de reciprocidad también con los estadounidenses, para poder defender la economía nacional, ¿es eso?",393.06,404.38,{"idx":436,"utterance_id":437,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":438,"start_s":439,"end_s":440,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},71,"189240","Sin ninguna duda, Daniela, sin ninguna duda.",404.4,406.78,{"idx":442,"utterance_id":443,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":444,"start_s":445,"end_s":446,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},72,"189241","Una política de reciprocidad.",407.1,408.9,{"idx":448,"utterance_id":449,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":450,"start_s":451,"end_s":452,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},73,"189242","Todas las tesis de negociación las tenemos que resolver.",410.22,412.94,{"idx":454,"utterance_id":455,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":456,"start_s":457,"end_s":458,"word_count":124,"indexable":13},74,"189243","Enfoque, reitero, en las personas; tenemos que ser un Brasil que sume y también un Brasil centrado en lo que importa.",413.06,419.66,{"idx":460,"utterance_id":461,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":462,"start_s":463,"end_s":464,"word_count":154,"indexable":13},75,"189244","Importa la soberanía nacional; importa... que podamos tener una relación de igual a igual, aunque ellos tengan una economía mucho mayor que la nuestra.",419.7,427.22,{"idx":466,"utterance_id":467,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":468,"start_s":469,"end_s":470,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},76,"189245","Pero ellos también dependen de Brasil.",427.24,429.1,{"idx":472,"utterance_id":473,"speaker_name":8,"text":474,"start_s":475,"end_s":476,"word_count":274,"indexable":13},77,"189246","Por otro lado, entrando en lo relativo a la geopolítica y la economía, candidato, tenemos por un lado a Estados Unidos —usted ya expuso su posición con respecto a Estados Unidos— y por otro, China, que disputa el liderazgo económico global.",429.4,441.82,{"idx":478,"utterance_id":479,"speaker_name":8,"text":480,"start_s":481,"end_s":482,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},78,"189247","Y Brasil tiene una gran relación comercial con China, y esto tiende a expandirse.",442.28,446.78,{"idx":484,"utterance_id":485,"speaker_name":8,"text":486,"start_s":487,"end_s":488,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},79,"189248","Se ha estado expandiendo en las últimas dos décadas.",447.02,449.3,{"idx":490,"utterance_id":491,"speaker_name":8,"text":492,"start_s":493,"end_s":494,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},80,"189249","Entonces, ¿cuál es la posición de Brasil?",449.34,451.76,{"idx":496,"utterance_id":497,"speaker_name":8,"text":498,"start_s":499,"end_s":500,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},81,"189250","¿considerando también la tradición diplomática que Brasil tiene, en relación con esos dos países?",452.16,456.34,{"idx":502,"utterance_id":503,"speaker_name":8,"text":504,"start_s":505,"end_s":506,"word_count":42,"indexable":13},82,"189251","¿Tiene que ser 100% pragmático?",456.36,458.1,{"idx":508,"utterance_id":509,"speaker_name":8,"text":510,"start_s":511,"end_s":512,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},83,"189252","¿Debe mirarlo desde la grada, desde los bastidores?",458.44,461.68,{"idx":514,"utterance_id":515,"speaker_name":8,"text":516,"start_s":517,"end_s":518,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},84,"189253","¿Cuál sería su sugerencia?",461.76,463.8,{"idx":520,"utterance_id":521,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":522,"start_s":523,"end_s":524,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},85,"189254","Mire, como mi enfoque está en las personas.",463.94,469.86,{"idx":526,"utterance_id":527,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":528,"start_s":529,"end_s":530,"word_count":142,"indexable":13},86,"189255","Imagínese, tenemos casi 10 millones de jóvenes que ni trabajan; 8 a 10 millones de jóvenes que ni trabajan ni estudian.",470,477.14,{"idx":532,"utterance_id":533,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":534,"start_s":535,"end_s":536,"word_count":197,"indexable":13},87,"189256","Imagínese que... Tenemos una deuda que se aproxima al 80% del PIB y es altísima, y además pagamos para refinanciar la deuda; es federal, con unos intereses completamente insanos.",477.7,493.46,{"idx":538,"utterance_id":539,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":540,"start_s":541,"end_s":542,"word_count":124,"indexable":13},88,"189257","Imagínese que... Los agricultores pagan un 20% de tasas anuales y la actividad no genera un 5% o 6% de rentabilidad.",494.16,504.36,{"idx":544,"utterance_id":545,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":546,"start_s":547,"end_s":548,"word_count":40,"indexable":13},89,"189258","Imagínese que el 78% de las familias están endeudadas, el 50% están sobreendeudadas.",504.42,510.94,{"idx":550,"utterance_id":551,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":552,"start_s":553,"end_s":554,"word_count":167,"indexable":13},90,"189259","Estudio Brasil, leo sobre Brasil desde hace 25 años; no estoy entrando en el terreno de la política simplemente como alguien externo, ¿está claro?",511.02,518.76,{"idx":556,"utterance_id":557,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":558,"start_s":559,"end_s":560,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},91,"189260","Y necesitamos resolver ese drama, esa crueldad.",519.4,523.96,{"idx":562,"utterance_id":563,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":564,"start_s":565,"end_s":566,"word_count":40,"indexable":13},92,"189261","Entonces, Brasil necesita tener las mejores relaciones con los países.",524.6,529.64,{"idx":568,"utterance_id":569,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":570,"start_s":571,"end_s":572,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},93,"189262","Tenemos que ser realmente pragmáticos, porque lo que importa es centrarse en el desarrollo económico.",530.68,540.44,{"idx":574,"utterance_id":575,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":576,"start_s":577,"end_s":578,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},94,"189263","Es mejorar la calidad de vida de las personas.",541.6,543.5,{"idx":580,"utterance_id":581,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":582,"start_s":583,"end_s":584,"word_count":347,"indexable":13},95,"189264","Lo que importa es que esclarezcamos el feminicidio, por ejemplo, porque cada cinco horas una mujer es asesinada por sus parejas y por sus familiares en Brasil, y ellas pagan un 4% más de intereses al año, no sé si usted lo sabía, para financiarse, aunque sean mejores pagadoras que los hombres.",544.04,566.52,{"idx":586,"utterance_id":587,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":588,"start_s":589,"end_s":590,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},96,"189265","Lo que importa es mejorar el país.",566.98,568.32,{"idx":592,"utterance_id":593,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":594,"start_s":595,"end_s":596,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},97,"189266","Las relaciones deben ser excelentes para que podamos tener un desarrollo adecuado y reducir esa inflación.",568.94,574.22,{"idx":598,"utterance_id":599,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":600,"start_s":601,"end_s":602,"word_count":298,"indexable":13},98,"189267","El gobierno federal debe ser fiscalmente responsable, porque así se aumenta el margen para que el Banco Central baje los intereses; aunque, en mi opinión, me parece que quienes están en el Banco Central son hiperresponsables, son responsables de... contener la inflación, pero son crueles con la producción.",574.66,597.02,{"idx":604,"utterance_id":605,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":606,"start_s":607,"end_s":608,"word_count":42,"indexable":13},99,"189268","Hay una paradoja sin precedentes.",597.34,598.74,{"idx":610,"utterance_id":611,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":612,"start_s":613,"end_s":614,"word_count":40,"indexable":13},100,"189269","Somos el país con las tasas de interés real más altas del mundo.",598.76,601.62,{"idx":616,"utterance_id":617,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":618,"start_s":619,"end_s":620,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},101,"189270","En fin, necesitamos resolver esto aquí, centrados en los problemas, con enfoque en las personas y un Brasil que sume y ya no un Brasil que divida.",602.1,611.92,{"idx":622,"utterance_id":623,"speaker_name":8,"text":624,"start_s":625,"end_s":626,"word_count":95,"indexable":13},102,"189271","Quisiera aprovechar que usted habló sobre la soberanía nacional en la penúltima respuesta, sobre violencia.",612.46,619.4,{"idx":628,"utterance_id":629,"speaker_name":8,"text":630,"start_s":631,"end_s":632,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},103,"189272","y sobre la inseguridad en general.",620.06,623.76,{"idx":634,"utterance_id":635,"speaker_name":8,"text":636,"start_s":637,"end_s":638,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},104,"189273","¿Cuál es su postura sobre la clasificación de los Estados Unidos, del Comando Vermelho y del PCC como organizaciones terroristas?",624.1,631.36,{"idx":640,"utterance_id":641,"speaker_name":8,"text":642,"start_s":643,"end_s":644,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},105,"189274","¿Es una medida eficaz para combatir la violencia, siendo ésta uno de los principales problemas y una de las principales preocupaciones de nuestro país?",631.7,639.5,{"idx":646,"utterance_id":647,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":648,"start_s":649,"end_s":650,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},106,"189275","Mire, gracias por la pregunta.",640.58,641.86,{"idx":652,"utterance_id":653,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":654,"start_s":655,"end_s":656,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},107,"189276","Peor que un crimen organizado es un Estado desorganizado; es un Estado... donde no puede resolver sus problemas más importantes.",643.3,651.98,{"idx":658,"utterance_id":659,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":660,"start_s":661,"end_s":662,"word_count":232,"indexable":13},108,"189277","He conversado con varios juristas; incluso hablé con miembros de la CUPRA de la Policía Federal sobre este tema, porque ya impartí formación en la Policía Federal y también he dado varios entrenamientos gratuitos en la Asociación de Magistrados de Brasil.",652.46,664.6,{"idx":664,"utterance_id":665,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":666,"start_s":667,"end_s":668,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},109,"189278","Está tipificado en nuestra Constitución lo que es una organización criminal que se transforma en organización terrorista.",665.24,672.84,{"idx":670,"utterance_id":671,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":672,"start_s":673,"end_s":674,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},110,"189279","Aún hay elementos... sus opiniones están divididas.",673,676.72,{"idx":676,"utterance_id":677,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":678,"start_s":679,"end_s":680,"word_count":220,"indexable":13},111,"189280","Hay elementos que constituyen, otros creen que no constituyen, porque no existe el deseo de saquear al país, no hay un clima de terror, no hay asesinato de opositores y demás elementos que caracterizan.",677.04,688.52,{"idx":682,"utterance_id":683,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":684,"start_s":685,"end_s":686,"word_count":42,"indexable":13},112,"189281","a las facciones como organización terrorista.",691.08,693.22,{"idx":688,"utterance_id":689,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":690,"start_s":691,"end_s":692,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},113,"189282","Lo que no podemos perder es la soberanía.",693.74,696.18,{"idx":694,"utterance_id":695,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":696,"start_s":697,"end_s":698,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},114,"189283","Y las facciones tienen que ser combatidas de manera rápida, eficiente y urgente.",696.44,701.64,{"idx":700,"utterance_id":701,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":702,"start_s":703,"end_s":704,"word_count":40,"indexable":13},115,"189284","Y tiene que haber integración de las policías federales, militares y civiles.",701.7,706.78,{"idx":706,"utterance_id":707,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":708,"start_s":709,"end_s":710,"word_count":130,"indexable":13},116,"189285","Y también debe haber equipamiento y tecnología para que el combate al crimen organizado, de hecho, sea eficaz.",707.54,714.64,{"idx":712,"utterance_id":713,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":714,"start_s":715,"end_s":716,"word_count":73,"indexable":13},117,"189286","Porque entra gobierno, sale gobierno, la conversación es la misma.",714.98,717.66,{"idx":718,"utterance_id":719,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":720,"start_s":721,"end_s":722,"word_count":84,"indexable":13},118,"189287","Si no hay integración y no hay tecnología, y también mejores salarios.",718.02,721.88,{"idx":724,"utterance_id":725,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":726,"start_s":727,"end_s":728,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},119,"189288","Y fíjese, la Policía Federal tiene menos de 15 mil miembros en su cuerpo.",722.18,725.26,{"idx":730,"utterance_id":731,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":732,"start_s":733,"end_s":734,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},120,"189289","Solo el FBI tiene más de 50 mil miembros para ocuparse de asuntos internos federales en los Estados Unidos.",725.68,731.04,{"idx":736,"utterance_id":737,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":738,"start_s":739,"end_s":740,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},121,"189290","Y hay varias policías federales en los Estados Unidos.",731.36,733.5,{"idx":742,"utterance_id":743,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":744,"start_s":745,"end_s":746,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},122,"189291","Tenemos que integrar las policías, mejorar los salarios de los agentes y contar con tecnología de inteligencia artificial para que realmente el crimen sea combatido.",735.4,746.44,{"idx":748,"utterance_id":749,"speaker_name":8,"text":750,"start_s":751,"end_s":752,"word_count":159,"indexable":13},123,"189292","Cambiando de tema ahora y volviendo a cuestiones prácticas, pero hablando un poco de economía: dentro de este contexto incluso internacional, ¿cómo ve usted a Brasil?",747.48,757.04,{"idx":754,"utterance_id":755,"speaker_name":8,"text":756,"start_s":757,"end_s":758,"word_count":113,"indexable":13},124,"189293","El sector productivo de Brasil —seremos, usted lo dijo al comienzo— deberíamos ser el supermercado del mundo.",758.08,764.58,{"idx":760,"utterance_id":761,"speaker_name":8,"text":762,"start_s":763,"end_s":764,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},125,"189294","¿Usted vislumbra una industria de punta en Brasil?",765.06,767.1,{"idx":766,"utterance_id":767,"speaker_name":8,"text":768,"start_s":769,"end_s":770,"word_count":209,"indexable":13},126,"189295","Está la cuestión de las tierras raras, está la cuestión de la soberanía planteada por Joana, o ¿continuaremos siendo predominantemente exportadores de materia prima, como lo hemos sido desde antes de que Brasil existiera como país?",767.66,780.82,{"idx":772,"utterance_id":773,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":774,"start_s":775,"end_s":776,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},127,"189296","Mire, esta pregunta es muy importante para mí.",781.26,783.28,{"idx":778,"utterance_id":779,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":780,"start_s":781,"end_s":782,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},128,"189297","Yo era el mejor alumno de matemáticas en el preuniversitario.",783.68,786.66,{"idx":784,"utterance_id":785,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":786,"start_s":787,"end_s":788,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},129,"189298","mi pensamiento también es lógico.",786.88,788.38,{"idx":790,"utterance_id":791,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":792,"start_s":793,"end_s":794,"word_count":113,"indexable":13},130,"189299","He escrito más de 70 libros y en mis libros hay geopolítica y también mucha economía.",788.92,794.74,{"idx":796,"utterance_id":797,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":798,"start_s":799,"end_s":800,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},131,"189300","Tenemos que desarrollar una industria 4.0; tenemos que doblar el número de cooperativistas, que son 27 millones en Brasil.",795.88,804.04,{"idx":802,"utterance_id":803,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":804,"start_s":805,"end_s":806,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},132,"189301","Para que se haga una idea, la Ocipar, la organización... la organización de las cooperativas de Paraná, factura 200 mil millones de reales por año.",804.84,815.14,{"idx":808,"utterance_id":809,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":810,"start_s":811,"end_s":812,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},133,"189302","¿Por qué?",815.26,815.58,{"idx":814,"utterance_id":815,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":816,"start_s":817,"end_s":818,"word_count":142,"indexable":13},134,"189303","No solo producen granos; producen proteína animal, procesan la proteína animal y es un ejemplo para el país.",815.76,824.24,{"idx":820,"utterance_id":821,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":822,"start_s":823,"end_s":824,"word_count":159,"indexable":13},135,"189304","Brasil tiene que pasar de 27 a 54 o, como mínimo, a 50 millones de cooperativistas en todas las áreas, incluso en las más diversas, para que los productores rurales también procesen la materia prima.",824.36,838.88,{"idx":826,"utterance_id":827,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":828,"start_s":829,"end_s":830,"word_count":73,"indexable":13},136,"189305","prima para que podamos convertirnos en el supermercado del mundo.",838.96,841.86,{"idx":832,"utterance_id":833,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":834,"start_s":835,"end_s":836,"word_count":286,"indexable":13},137,"189306","En cuanto a la industria también, no solo la industria de proteína animal: deberíamos tener al menos 100 plantas de etanol de maíz y etanol de maíz sobre el DDGS, que es un proteico, para que también en el noreste brasileño tengamos la capacidad de procesarlos.",842.12,858.28,{"idx":838,"utterance_id":839,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":840,"start_s":841,"end_s":842,"word_count":154,"indexable":13},138,"189307","Y deberíamos tener una secretaría ejecutiva de inteligencia artificial y de robótica, porque quizá en cuatro o cinco años no quede piedra sobre piedra.",859.52,868.1,{"idx":844,"utterance_id":845,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":846,"start_s":847,"end_s":848,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},139,"189308","Por eso, una de las causas que más me importan es que tengamos una economía distribuida.",868.18,872.94,{"idx":850,"utterance_id":851,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":852,"start_s":853,"end_s":854,"word_count":42,"indexable":13},140,"189309","He conversado con varios economistas.",872.98,874.9,{"idx":856,"utterance_id":857,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":858,"start_s":859,"end_s":860,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},141,"189310","Si no tenemos una economía distribuida, es decir... si no financiamos 10 millones de microempresas en los próximos 4 o 5 años.",875.28,882.22,{"idx":862,"utterance_id":863,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":864,"start_s":865,"end_s":866,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},142,"189311","Dividiría el BNDES en la primera semana, en el banco de las grandes empresas y en el banco de la micro y pequeña empresa.",882.5,889.52,{"idx":868,"utterance_id":869,"speaker_name":97,"speaker_slug":98,"text":870,"start_s":871,"end_s":872,"word_count":286,"indexable":13},143,"189312","En cada comunidad o favela debería haber una agencia del banco emprendedor, también debería haber una escuela de emprendimiento; en cada escuela pública también debería haber una agencia del banco de la microempresa y también una escuela en cada 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