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Abre la mano, extiende la mano, pone el plato aquí, eh. Va a coger aquí, eh. Normalmente es cuchara en la comitiva.",868.76,877.78,{"idx":1754,"utterance_id":1755,"speaker_name":58,"text":1756,"start_s":1757,"end_s":1758,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},305,"81934","Cuchara para que el peón coma rápido.",878.22,879.34,{"idx":1760,"utterance_id":1761,"speaker_name":58,"text":1762,"start_s":1763,"end_s":1764,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},306,"81935","Entonces, eh. ¿Hiciste esto?",880.16,881.82,{"idx":1766,"utterance_id":1767,"speaker_name":58,"text":1768,"start_s":1769,"end_s":1770,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},307,"81936","Ah, hay una pinza que haces ahí.",882.04,884.26,{"idx":1772,"utterance_id":1773,"speaker_name":58,"text":1774,"start_s":1775,"end_s":1776,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},308,"81937","Hay aquí, eh. Y mira, me sobran tres dedos por debajo.",884.36,887.46,{"idx":1778,"utterance_id":1779,"speaker_name":58,"text":1780,"start_s":1781,"end_s":1782,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},309,"81938","¿Para qué sería, no?",887.64,888.44,{"idx":1784,"utterance_id":1785,"speaker_name":58,"text":1786,"start_s":1787,"end_s":1788,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},310,"81939","Tres dedos sobrando por debajo.",888.54,889.74,{"idx":1790,"utterance_id":1791,"speaker_name":58,"text":1792,"start_s":1793,"end_s":1794,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},311,"81940","Para esto aquí, eh. Voy a acercarme aquí, eh. Voy a venir aquí a pellizcar la tapa de la olla.",889.86,896.24,{"idx":1796,"utterance_id":1797,"speaker_name":58,"text":1798,"start_s":1799,"end_s":1800,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},312,"81941","Entonces, eh, no puedo hurgar, ¿vale?",898.16,899.72,{"idx":1802,"utterance_id":1803,"speaker_name":58,"text":1804,"start_s":1805,"end_s":1806,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},313,"81942","Elegí mi porción, es mi porción.",900.18,901.88,{"idx":1808,"utterance_id":1809,"speaker_name":58,"text":1810,"start_s":1811,"end_s":1812,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},314,"81943","Es esa de allí, eh. Entonces la pongo aquí en el plato.",901.94,905.12,{"idx":1814,"utterance_id":1815,"speaker_name":58,"text":1816,"start_s":1817,"end_s":1818,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},315,"81944","Sobró arroz aquí.",905.78,906.64,{"idx":1820,"utterance_id":1821,"speaker_name":58,"text":1822,"start_s":1823,"end_s":1824,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},316,"81945","¿Qué tengo que hacer con este arroz aquí?",906.7,908.36,{"idx":1826,"utterance_id":1827,"speaker_name":58,"text":1828,"start_s":1829,"end_s":1830,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},317,"81946","¿Devolverlo al...?",909.1,909.72,{"idx":1832,"utterance_id":1833,"speaker_name":58,"text":1834,"start_s":1835,"end_s":1836,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},318,"81947","¿Cómo lo voy a devolver aquí?",910.06,911.04,{"idx":1838,"utterance_id":1839,"speaker_name":58,"text":1840,"start_s":1841,"end_s":1842,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},319,"81948","Golpecito.",912.2,912.76,{"idx":1844,"utterance_id":1845,"speaker_name":58,"text":1846,"start_s":1847,"end_s":1848,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},320,"81949","Aquí, eh. Uno, dos, tres.",912.94,915.72,{"idx":1850,"utterance_id":1851,"speaker_name":58,"text":1852,"start_s":1853,"end_s":1854,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},321,"81950","Son tres cervezas que ustedes tienen que pagarme.",915.82,918,{"idx":1856,"utterance_id":1857,"speaker_name":58,"text":1858,"start_s":1859,"end_s":1860,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},322,"81951","Si golpea, ¿vale?",918.08,918.62,{"idx":1862,"utterance_id":1863,"speaker_name":58,"text":1864,"start_s":1865,"end_s":1866,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},323,"81952","Es infracción golpear aquí.",919,920.06,{"idx":1868,"utterance_id":1869,"speaker_name":58,"text":1870,"start_s":1871,"end_s":1872,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},324,"81953","No se puede, porque si no se rompe, ¿no?",920.12,921.44,{"idx":1874,"utterance_id":1875,"speaker_name":58,"text":1876,"start_s":1877,"end_s":1878,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},325,"81954","Todos los peones golpeando van a acabar con esto aquí.",921.82,923.64,{"idx":1880,"utterance_id":1881,"speaker_name":58,"text":1882,"start_s":1883,"end_s":1884,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},326,"81955","Entonces es una de las reglas, no se puede golpear.",924.1,925.68,{"idx":1886,"utterance_id":1887,"speaker_name":58,"text":1888,"start_s":1889,"end_s":1890,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},327,"81956","Entonces el tipo va sacando, sirviendo con cuidado, ¿no?",926.32,929.26,{"idx":1892,"utterance_id":1893,"speaker_name":58,"text":1894,"start_s":1895,"end_s":1896,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},328,"81957","Va poniendo su comida aquí en el plato, sin hurgar.",930.24,934.98,{"idx":1898,"utterance_id":1899,"speaker_name":58,"text":1900,"start_s":1901,"end_s":1902,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},329,"81958","Hurgar es que la persona se quede eligiendo.",935.04,936.76,{"idx":1904,"utterance_id":1905,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1906,"start_s":1907,"end_s":1908,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},330,"81959","Odio a las personas que hurgan en el autoservicio.",936.82,938.56,{"idx":1910,"utterance_id":1911,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1912,"start_s":1913,"end_s":1914,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},331,"81960","Está totalmente bien.",938.72,939.82,{"idx":1916,"utterance_id":1917,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1918,"start_s":1919,"end_s":1920,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},332,"81961","Mira, mañana es esa sabiduría.",939.88,941.36,{"idx":1922,"utterance_id":1923,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1924,"start_s":1925,"end_s":1926,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},333,"81962","¿Hay algo más molesto que no saber?",941.92,943.28,{"idx":1928,"utterance_id":1929,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1930,"start_s":1931,"end_s":1932,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},334,"81963","Te quedas ahí eligiendo el tomatito, así.",943.32,945.58,{"idx":1934,"utterance_id":1935,"speaker_name":58,"text":1936,"start_s":1937,"end_s":1938,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},335,"81964","Bueno, dije que no se puede llevar sombrero.",946.32,948.76,{"idx":1940,"utterance_id":1941,"speaker_name":58,"text":1942,"start_s":1943,"end_s":1944,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},336,"81965","Pero entonces ya serví mi comida, digamos que serví todo.",948.8,951.2,{"idx":1946,"utterance_id":1947,"speaker_name":58,"text":1948,"start_s":1949,"end_s":1950,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},337,"81966","¿Qué voy a hacer?",951.58,952.48,{"idx":1952,"utterance_id":1953,"speaker_name":58,"text":1954,"start_s":1955,"end_s":1956,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},338,"81967","No voy a tener mesa, no voy a tener un banquito allá en el campo, ¿no?",953.34,955.66,{"idx":1958,"utterance_id":1959,"speaker_name":58,"text":1960,"start_s":1961,"end_s":1962,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},339,"81968","Me voy a apartar, mira. Y voy a hacer toda mi estructura.",955.8,960.9,{"idx":1964,"utterance_id":1965,"speaker_name":58,"text":1966,"start_s":1967,"end_s":1968,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},340,"81969","Está aquí, mira. Mi mesa, mira. Aquí, mira. Sombrero.",961.02,965.58,{"idx":1970,"utterance_id":1971,"speaker_name":58,"text":1972,"start_s":1973,"end_s":1974,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},341,"81970","Ah, ¿en serio?",965.7,966.02,{"idx":1976,"utterance_id":1977,"speaker_name":58,"text":1978,"start_s":1979,"end_s":1980,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},342,"81971","Sí. Qué bueno eso.",966.78,967.82,{"idx":1982,"utterance_id":1983,"speaker_name":58,"text":1984,"start_s":1985,"end_s":1986,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},343,"81972","Pero no voy a comer de pie.",968.12,969.04,{"idx":1988,"utterance_id":1989,"speaker_name":58,"text":1990,"start_s":1991,"end_s":1992,"word_count":155,"indexable":14},344,"81973","Entonces está aquí, pongo mi pie derecho aquí un poco hacia adelante, mira, busco un apoyo, entonces voy a hacerlo.",970.04,976.08,{"idx":1994,"utterance_id":1995,"speaker_name":58,"text":1996,"start_s":1997,"end_s":1998,"word_count":149,"indexable":14},345,"81974","Un apoyo aquí es donde el peón come, mira. Puedes ver en las películas, documentales, el tipo está comiendo aquí.",977.08,982.62,{"idx":2000,"utterance_id":2001,"speaker_name":58,"text":2002,"start_s":2003,"end_s":2004,"word_count":137,"indexable":14},346,"81975","Entonces aquí, mira, no se puede poner el trasero en el suelo, porque si se sienta en un hormiguero, está jodido, ¿no?",984.44,990.04,{"idx":2006,"utterance_id":2007,"speaker_name":58,"text":2008,"start_s":2009,"end_s":2010,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},347,"81976","Cualquier cosa aquí, el tipo, mira, ya se levanta, mira el ganado, el ganado está bien.",990.08,994.62,{"idx":2012,"utterance_id":2013,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2014,"start_s":2015,"end_s":2016,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},348,"81977","Oye, las cosas tienen una ritualística propia, ¿no?",995.98,998.4,{"idx":2018,"utterance_id":2019,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2020,"start_s":2021,"end_s":2022,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},349,"81978","Muy bueno.",998.94,999.4,{"idx":2024,"utterance_id":2025,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2020,"start_s":2026,"end_s":2027,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},350,"81979",1000.28,1000.8,{"idx":2029,"utterance_id":2030,"speaker_name":58,"text":2031,"start_s":2032,"end_s":2033,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},351,"81980","Oh, Amanda, fuiste muy buena allá en el caballo.",1001.48,1003.66,{"idx":2035,"utterance_id":2036,"speaker_name":58,"text":2037,"start_s":2038,"end_s":2039,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},352,"81981","Te lo voy a facilitar.",1004.08,1005.3,{"idx":2041,"utterance_id":2042,"speaker_name":58,"text":2043,"start_s":2044,"end_s":2045,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},353,"81982","Voy a sacar las tapas que están muy calientes, quemándome la mano, ¿vale?",1005.92,1008.36,{"idx":2047,"utterance_id":2048,"speaker_name":58,"text":2049,"start_s":2050,"end_s":2051,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},354,"81983","Está bien.",1008.4,1008.42,{"idx":2053,"utterance_id":2054,"speaker_name":58,"text":2055,"start_s":2056,"end_s":2057,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},355,"81984","Ahí... Voy a dejar facilitado.",1009.14,1012.14,{"idx":2059,"utterance_id":2060,"speaker_name":58,"text":2061,"start_s":2062,"end_s":2063,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},356,"81985","Voy a dejar una tapita aquí para que practiques.",1012.18,1014.12,{"idx":566,"utterance_id":2065,"speaker_name":58,"text":2049,"start_s":2066,"end_s":2067,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},"81986",1014.38,1014.44,{"idx":2069,"utterance_id":2070,"speaker_name":58,"text":2071,"start_s":2072,"end_s":2073,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},358,"81987","¿De acuerdo?",1015.24,1015.32,{"idx":2075,"utterance_id":2076,"speaker_name":58,"text":2077,"start_s":2078,"end_s":2079,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},359,"81988","Vale para todos ahí, ¿sí?",1015.8,1017.08,{"idx":2081,"utterance_id":2082,"speaker_name":58,"text":2083,"start_s":2084,"end_s":2085,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},360,"81989","Esta tapita aquí es más fácil de agarrar y no está tan caliente.",1017.94,1021.56,{"idx":2087,"utterance_id":2088,"speaker_name":58,"text":2089,"start_s":2090,"end_s":2091,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},361,"81990","Si quieres practicar... Entonces, así, debería servirte.",1021.68,1024.04,{"idx":2093,"utterance_id":2094,"speaker_name":58,"text":2095,"start_s":2096,"end_s":2097,"word_count":149,"indexable":14},362,"81991","Eh, así, o... No, aquí para comer puedes... No, le estaba explicando a él, pero para servir es eso.",1024.1,1031.38,{"idx":2099,"utterance_id":2100,"speaker_name":58,"text":2101,"start_s":2102,"end_s":2103,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},363,"81992","Anda.",1031.62,1031.84,{"idx":2105,"utterance_id":2106,"speaker_name":58,"text":2107,"start_s":2108,"end_s":2109,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},364,"81993","Siéntete libre para servir.",1032.9,1033.94,{"idx":2111,"utterance_id":2112,"speaker_name":58,"text":2113,"start_s":2114,"end_s":2115,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},365,"81994","Tres dedos hacia abajo.",1033.98,1034.86,{"idx":2117,"utterance_id":2118,"speaker_name":58,"text":2119,"start_s":2120,"end_s":2121,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},366,"81995","No, lo estás viendo bien.",1034.96,1037.16,{"idx":2123,"utterance_id":2124,"speaker_name":58,"text":127,"start_s":2125,"end_s":2126,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},367,"81996",1037.24,1037.46,{"idx":2128,"utterance_id":2129,"speaker_name":58,"text":2130,"start_s":2131,"end_s":2132,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},368,"81997","Ahí, mira. Tráncalo ahí.",1038.06,1040.16,{"idx":2134,"utterance_id":2135,"speaker_name":58,"text":2136,"start_s":2137,"end_s":2138,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},369,"81998","No, lo está bloqueando con el dedito meñique por encima.",1044.5,1046.12,{"idx":2140,"utterance_id":2141,"speaker_name":58,"text":2142,"start_s":2143,"end_s":2144,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},370,"81999","Dedito meñique por encima de él.",1047.42,1048.36,{"idx":2146,"utterance_id":2147,"speaker_name":58,"text":2148,"start_s":2149,"end_s":2150,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},371,"82000","Aquí, mira. Lógico.",1049,1050.06,{"idx":2152,"utterance_id":2153,"speaker_name":58,"text":2154,"start_s":2155,"end_s":2156,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},372,"82001","Y ese por debajo, no.",1052.64,1054.1,{"idx":2158,"utterance_id":2159,"speaker_name":58,"text":2160,"start_s":2161,"end_s":2162,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},373,"82002","Ya está dando clase, ¿no?",1056.08,1057.76,{"idx":2164,"utterance_id":2165,"speaker_name":58,"text":2166,"start_s":2167,"end_s":2168,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},374,"82003","Eso es demasiado rápido.",1057.8,1060.36,{"idx":2170,"utterance_id":2171,"speaker_name":58,"text":2172,"start_s":2173,"end_s":2174,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},375,"82004","No grabando, le dije un minuto.",1060.44,1062.62,{"idx":2176,"utterance_id":2177,"speaker_name":58,"text":2178,"start_s":2179,"end_s":2180,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},376,"82005","Media hora y él, en 30 segundos, se va volando.",1062.66,1064.84,{"idx":2182,"utterance_id":2183,"speaker_name":58,"text":2184,"start_s":2185,"end_s":2186,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},377,"82006","Y ese asunto de estar sin bio aquí, la gente está preocupada, ¿no está?",1067.66,1070.7,{"idx":2188,"utterance_id":2189,"speaker_name":58,"text":2190,"start_s":2191,"end_s":2192,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},378,"82007","Oye, pues, esos temas, esas cosas, ¿no?",1072.02,1078.6,{"idx":2194,"utterance_id":2195,"speaker_name":58,"text":2196,"start_s":2197,"end_s":2198,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},379,"82008","Siempre preocupa, ¿no?",1078.76,1079.86,{"idx":2200,"utterance_id":2201,"speaker_name":58,"text":2202,"start_s":2203,"end_s":2204,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},380,"82009","Es un asunto que...",1080.24,1081.06,{"idx":2206,"utterance_id":2207,"speaker_name":58,"text":2208,"start_s":2209,"end_s":2210,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},381,"82010","Mira, manda 'gabaritou', ¿vale?",1092.74,1093.8,{"idx":2212,"utterance_id":2213,"speaker_name":58,"text":2214,"start_s":2215,"end_s":2216,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},382,"82011","¿Me equivoqué?",1094.7,1095,{"idx":2218,"utterance_id":2219,"speaker_name":58,"text":2220,"start_s":2221,"end_s":2222,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},383,"82012","¿Correcto?",1095.28,1095.8,{"idx":2224,"utterance_id":2225,"speaker_name":58,"text":2226,"start_s":2227,"end_s":2228,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},384,"82013","¿Lo entiendes?",1095.94,1096.6,{"idx":2230,"utterance_id":2231,"speaker_name":58,"text":2232,"start_s":2233,"end_s":2234,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},385,"82014","Vale.",1097.32,1097.7,{"idx":2236,"utterance_id":2237,"speaker_name":58,"text":2238,"start_s":2239,"end_s":2240,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},386,"82015","Ahora hay que ver si voy a saber comer.",1098.18,1100.16,{"idx":2242,"utterance_id":2243,"speaker_name":58,"text":2244,"start_s":2245,"end_s":2246,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},387,"82016","Calma, que la experiencia completa es así, ¿no?",1100.38,1102.22,{"idx":2248,"utterance_id":2249,"speaker_name":58,"text":2250,"start_s":2251,"end_s":2252,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},388,"82017","Sí. No, pero hay que ponerlo en el sombrero.",1102.28,1107.66,{"idx":2254,"utterance_id":2255,"speaker_name":58,"text":2256,"start_s":2257,"end_s":2258,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},389,"82018","Puedes colocar dentro y eso sujeta... Ahí, sujeta el sombrero.",1108.28,1111.28,{"idx":2260,"utterance_id":2261,"speaker_name":58,"text":2262,"start_s":2263,"end_s":2264,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},390,"82019","¿Viste?",1111.7,1112.38,{"idx":2266,"utterance_id":2267,"speaker_name":58,"text":2268,"start_s":2269,"end_s":2270,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},391,"82020","En la cuchara era más fácil.",1112.46,1116.34,{"idx":2272,"utterance_id":2273,"speaker_name":58,"text":2274,"start_s":2275,"end_s":2276,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},392,"82021","¿En la cuchara, eh?",1116.38,1116.88,{"idx":2278,"utterance_id":2279,"speaker_name":58,"text":2280,"start_s":2281,"end_s":2282,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},393,"82022","Ahí, mira. Ya... Perdió el trabajo allá, ya va... Peor, ¿no?",1118.04,1126.16,{"idx":2284,"utterance_id":2285,"speaker_name":58,"text":2286,"start_s":2287,"end_s":2288,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},394,"82023","Pon los tres dedos hacia acá.",1127.3,1131.3,{"idx":2290,"utterance_id":2291,"speaker_name":58,"text":2292,"start_s":2293,"end_s":2294,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},395,"82024","No dejes que Ana Castela vea eso, que ella lo va a copiar, eh?",1134.18,1141.92,{"idx":2296,"utterance_id":2297,"speaker_name":58,"text":2298,"start_s":2299,"end_s":2300,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},396,"82025","Estoy pendiente, que tengo una sed, hombre, de tomar una cerveza.",1157.2,1162.78,{"idx":2302,"utterance_id":2303,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2214,"start_s":2304,"end_s":2305,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},397,"82026",1163.16,1163.68,{"idx":2307,"utterance_id":2308,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2309,"start_s":2310,"end_s":2311,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},398,"82027","¿Qué, el ruido no... 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teja.",1439.6,1442.18,{"idx":2744,"utterance_id":2745,"speaker_name":58,"text":2746,"start_s":2747,"end_s":2748,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},470,"82099","Siente su peso.",1442.62,1443.92,{"idx":2750,"utterance_id":2751,"speaker_name":58,"text":2752,"start_s":2753,"end_s":2754,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},471,"82100","¡Guau!",1444.42,1444.84,{"idx":2756,"utterance_id":2757,"speaker_name":58,"text":2758,"start_s":2759,"end_s":2760,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},472,"82101","Pero porque es una tecnología muy avanzada.",1445.3,1447.26,{"idx":2762,"utterance_id":2763,"speaker_name":58,"text":2764,"start_s":2765,"end_s":2766,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},473,"82102","Porque tiene esa circulación de aire, ¿no?",1447.62,1453.76,{"idx":2768,"utterance_id":2769,"speaker_name":58,"text":2770,"start_s":2771,"end_s":2772,"word_count":179,"indexable":14},474,"82103","Entonces si miras después allí en nuestro tejado, en el galpón principal, vas a notar esa huella de las casas japonesas, de ese tejado de casa japonesa.",1454.56,1463.68,{"idx":2774,"utterance_id":2775,"speaker_name":58,"text":2776,"start_s":2777,"end_s":2778,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},475,"82104","Porque el uso de esa teja es eso.",1463.74,1466,{"idx":2780,"utterance_id":2781,"speaker_name":58,"text":2782,"start_s":2783,"end_s":2784,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},476,"82105","Ahora, aquí lo que impresiona al ingeniero, al arquitecto, es esa forma de la cúpula, ¿no?",1467.44,1473.96,{"idx":2786,"utterance_id":2787,"speaker_name":58,"text":835,"start_s":2788,"end_s":2789,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},477,"82106",1474.4,1475,{"idx":2791,"utterance_id":2792,"speaker_name":58,"text":2793,"start_s":2794,"end_s":2795,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},478,"82107","Entonces, algo para la época; estamos hablando de 1919, 1920, ¿no?",1475.1,1480.62,{"idx":2797,"utterance_id":2798,"speaker_name":58,"text":2799,"start_s":2800,"end_s":2801,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},479,"82108","Entonces, una sola persona hacía eso.",1481.42,1483.76,{"idx":2803,"utterance_id":2804,"speaker_name":58,"text":2805,"start_s":2806,"end_s":2807,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},480,"82109","Y no era ingeniero, ni nada, él solo tenía conocimiento.",1484.76,1487.98,{"idx":2809,"utterance_id":2810,"speaker_name":58,"text":2811,"start_s":2812,"end_s":2813,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},481,"82110","¿Y fueron japas, fueron japoneses?",1488.32,1489.72,{"idx":2815,"utterance_id":2816,"speaker_name":58,"text":2817,"start_s":2818,"end_s":2819,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},482,"82111","Indio.",1489.86,1490.08,{"idx":2821,"utterance_id":2822,"speaker_name":58,"text":2823,"start_s":2824,"end_s":2825,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},483,"82112","¿Indio?",1490.84,1491.1,{"idx":2827,"utterance_id":2828,"speaker_name":58,"text":2829,"start_s":2830,"end_s":2831,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},484,"82113","Quien hacía esa cúpula aquí era un indio.",1491.14,1494.08,{"idx":2833,"utterance_id":2834,"speaker_name":58,"text":2835,"start_s":2836,"end_s":2837,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},485,"82114","Y aquí, cada boquita de esas que ves es la entrada de un horno.",1494.68,1500.28,{"idx":2839,"utterance_id":2840,"speaker_name":58,"text":2841,"start_s":2842,"end_s":2843,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},486,"82115","Entonces se ponía el fuego afuera, en las hornillas, y aquí solo entraba el calor.",1500.64,1505.42,{"idx":2845,"utterance_id":2846,"speaker_name":58,"text":2847,"start_s":2848,"end_s":2849,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},487,"82116","Todo esto porque aquí debajo tenemos un túnel.",1506.04,1508.42,{"idx":2851,"utterance_id":2852,"speaker_name":58,"text":2853,"start_s":2854,"end_s":2855,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},488,"82117","Y ese túnel está conectado a esas chimeneas altas que viste.",1509.1,1512.24,{"idx":2857,"utterance_id":2858,"speaker_name":58,"text":2859,"start_s":2860,"end_s":2861,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},489,"82118","Entonces las chimeneas tienen ese efecto de globo, de succionar el aire caliente.",1512.76,1517.66,{"idx":2863,"utterance_id":2864,"speaker_name":58,"text":2865,"start_s":2866,"end_s":2867,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},490,"82119","Entonces atraía y se llevaba todo el humo y el calor excedente.",1518.16,1523.32,{"idx":2869,"utterance_id":2870,"speaker_name":58,"text":2871,"start_s":2872,"end_s":2873,"word_count":27,"indexable":14},491,"82120","Afuera es donde tenían una... una plancha, esa plancha allá, que hacía toda la regulación.",1523.4,1529.7,{"idx":2875,"utterance_id":2876,"speaker_name":58,"text":2877,"start_s":2878,"end_s":2879,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},492,"82121","Entonces, para que te hagas una idea, aquí alcanzaba 900 grados en el interior.",1530.22,1533.8,{"idx":2881,"utterance_id":2882,"speaker_name":58,"text":2883,"start_s":2884,"end_s":2885,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},493,"82122","Para hacer la etapa final de cocción era de 900 grados.",1534.06,1537.92,{"idx":2887,"utterance_id":2888,"speaker_name":58,"text":2889,"start_s":2890,"end_s":2891,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},494,"82123","Entonces era tan caliente que disolvía la sílice y la transformaba en vidrio.",1538.5,1543.46,{"idx":2893,"utterance_id":2894,"speaker_name":58,"text":2895,"start_s":2896,"end_s":2897,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},495,"82124","Eso que ves allí, que parece una gelatina.",1543.54,1545.22,{"idx":2899,"utterance_id":2900,"speaker_name":58,"text":2901,"start_s":2902,"end_s":2903,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},496,"82125","Ah, es verdad, está vitrificado.",1545.26,1546.9,{"idx":2905,"utterance_id":2906,"speaker_name":58,"text":2907,"start_s":2908,"end_s":2909,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},497,"82126","Eso es vitrificación de la sílice.",1546.96,1548.56,{"idx":2911,"utterance_id":2912,"speaker_name":58,"text":2913,"start_s":2914,"end_s":2915,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},498,"82127","Entonces la temperatura era tan alta, ¿no?",1550.56,1553.58,{"idx":2917,"utterance_id":2918,"speaker_name":58,"text":2919,"start_s":2920,"end_s":2921,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},499,"82128","Que transformaba la sílice en vidrio.",1554.02,1555.64,{"idx":2923,"utterance_id":2924,"speaker_name":58,"text":2925,"start_s":2926,"end_s":2927,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},500,"82129","Y llegó a formarse.",1556.08,1556.98,{"idx":2929,"utterance_id":2930,"speaker_name":58,"text":2931,"start_s":2932,"end_s":2933,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},501,"82130","Se puede ver que casi todo el interior aquí, en la parte alta, fue vitrificado.",1557.3,1562.64,{"idx":2935,"utterance_id":2936,"speaker_name":58,"text":2937,"start_s":2938,"end_s":2939,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},502,"82131","Hoy, con el tiempo, hace nueve años que dejó de quemar aquí.",1564.16,1569.42,{"idx":2941,"utterance_id":2942,"speaker_name":58,"text":2943,"start_s":2944,"end_s":2945,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},503,"82132","Entonces ya fue perdiendo las películas.",1570.04,1574.06,{"idx":2947,"utterance_id":2948,"speaker_name":58,"text":2949,"start_s":2950,"end_s":2951,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},504,"82133","Y hoy tiene un poquito.",1575.94,1577.02,{"idx":2953,"utterance_id":2954,"speaker_name":58,"text":2955,"start_s":2956,"end_s":2957,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},505,"82134","Tenemos un residente allí, un murciélago.",1577.18,1581.18,{"idx":2959,"utterance_id":2960,"speaker_name":58,"text":2961,"start_s":2962,"end_s":2963,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},506,"82135","Que es uno de nuestros aliados, ¿no?",1582.2,1584.14,{"idx":2965,"utterance_id":2966,"speaker_name":58,"text":2967,"start_s":2968,"end_s":2969,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},507,"82136","Ese es el murciélago insectívoro, ¿no?",1584.18,1585.94,{"idx":2971,"utterance_id":2972,"speaker_name":58,"text":2973,"start_s":2974,"end_s":2975,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},508,"82137","Solo se alimenta de insectos.",1586.66,1588.26,{"idx":2977,"utterance_id":2978,"speaker_name":58,"text":2979,"start_s":2980,"end_s":2981,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},509,"82138","Maravilloso, ¿no?",1588.32,1590.5,{"idx":2983,"utterance_id":2984,"speaker_name":58,"text":2985,"start_s":2986,"end_s":2987,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},510,"82139","Un animal muy bueno, de verdad.",1590.54,1591.3,{"idx":2989,"utterance_id":2990,"speaker_name":58,"text":2991,"start_s":2992,"end_s":2993,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},511,"82140","Eso es.",1591.34,1592.08,{"idx":2995,"utterance_id":2996,"speaker_name":58,"text":2997,"start_s":2998,"end_s":2999,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},512,"82141","Aquí, mira, puedes tocar y sentir, mira. Que es realmente una película de vidrio.",1594.28,1599.34,{"idx":3001,"utterance_id":3002,"speaker_name":58,"text":3003,"start_s":3004,"end_s":3005,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},513,"82142","Oye, Maurício, hasta eran los japas allí, ¿viste?",1604.86,1606.92,{"idx":3007,"utterance_id":3008,"speaker_name":58,"text":3009,"start_s":3010,"end_s":3011,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},514,"82143","Había, ¿no?",1607.02,1607.3,{"idx":3013,"utterance_id":3014,"speaker_name":58,"text":3015,"start_s":3016,"end_s":3017,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},515,"82144","Había.",1607.68,1607.88,{"idx":3019,"utterance_id":3020,"speaker_name":58,"text":3021,"start_s":3022,"end_s":3023,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},516,"82145","Fueron ellos los que lo construyeron allí.",1610.78,1611.72,{"idx":3025,"utterance_id":3026,"speaker_name":58,"text":3027,"start_s":3028,"end_s":3029,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},517,"82146","¿Fue?",1613.34,1613.54,{"idx":3031,"utterance_id":3032,"speaker_name":58,"text":434,"start_s":3033,"end_s":3034,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},518,"82147",1613.58,1613.76,{"idx":3036,"utterance_id":3037,"speaker_name":58,"text":3038,"start_s":3039,"end_s":3040,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},519,"82148","Lo vi otra vez.",1613.8,1614.46,{"idx":3042,"utterance_id":3043,"speaker_name":58,"text":3044,"start_s":3045,"end_s":3046,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":3047,"topic_label":3048,"target_id":3049,"target_proposition":3050,"stance":39,"stance_confidence":40,"rationale":3051,"indexable":14},520,"82149","Sí. Y entonces, tenemos... Toda la antigua alfarería que usamos hoy es nuestra base para el turismo, ¿no?",1614.66,1622.02,"turismo-e-acesso-publico","Turismo y acceso público","126ce45c-b14f-4a78-af57-52fee435d12a","proteger y promover el turismo local","afirma que la antigua alfarería 'é a nossa base do turismo' — descripción de uso.",{"idx":3053,"utterance_id":3054,"speaker_name":58,"text":3055,"start_s":3056,"end_s":3057,"word_count":167,"topic_slug":3058,"topic_label":3059,"target_id":3060,"target_proposition":3061,"stance":39,"stance_confidence":184,"rationale":3062,"indexable":14},521,"82150","Tenemos el salón principal que es el restaurante, la parte de la cocina funcionando y una parte todavía por restaurar, ¿no?",1622.06,1630.34,"patrimonio-historico","Patrimonio histórico","be1e3faf-0fe3-401d-aa9e-9302cf890efb","proteger y preservar patrimonios históricos","observa que 'uma parte ainda para ser restaurada' — relata la necesidad de restauración.",{"idx":3064,"utterance_id":3065,"speaker_name":58,"text":3066,"start_s":3067,"end_s":3068,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},522,"82151","Una parte que necesita ser restaurada.",1630.42,1633.22,{"idx":3070,"utterance_id":3071,"speaker_name":58,"text":3072,"start_s":3073,"end_s":3074,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},523,"82152","¿Puedo tomar un cafecito?",1633.82,1634.62,{"idx":3076,"utterance_id":3077,"speaker_name":58,"text":3078,"start_s":3079,"end_s":3080,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},524,"82153","Sí, sí, puede, siéntase a gusto.",1634.78,1636.04,{"idx":3082,"utterance_id":3083,"speaker_name":58,"text":3084,"start_s":3085,"end_s":3086,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},525,"82154","Las tazas.",1636.1,1636.74,{"idx":3088,"utterance_id":3089,"speaker_name":58,"text":3090,"start_s":3091,"end_s":3092,"word_count":13,"topic_slug":2485,"topic_label":2486,"target_id":2487,"target_proposition":2488,"stance":2489,"stance_confidence":63,"rationale":3093,"indexable":65},526,"82155","Entonces aquí, todo esto, nuestro propósito es, es transportar a nuestros visitantes...",1637.6,1643.28,"declara 'nosso propósito é... remeter os nossos visitantes' al cotidiano del Pantanal.",{"idx":3095,"utterance_id":3096,"speaker_name":58,"text":3097,"start_s":3098,"end_s":3099,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},527,"82156","La vida, la cotidianidad del hombre pantaneiro, del peón de comitiva, del peón pantaneiro.",1644.02,1650.54,{"idx":3101,"utterance_id":3102,"speaker_name":58,"text":3103,"start_s":3104,"end_s":3105,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},528,"82157","Entonces las tazas, los platos, están esmaltados, porque originalmente andaban dentro de las broacas, ¿no?",1650.84,1659.54,{"idx":3107,"utterance_id":3108,"speaker_name":58,"text":3109,"start_s":3110,"end_s":3111,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},529,"82158","Y las broacas van en el lomo de la mula, del burro y dan esas sacudidas.",1660.76,1665.56,{"idx":3113,"utterance_id":3114,"speaker_name":58,"text":3115,"start_s":3116,"end_s":3117,"word_count":27,"indexable":14},530,"82159","Ahora imagina si esto fuera loza, al primer día ya no quedaría nada.",1665.6,1669.6,{"idx":3119,"utterance_id":3120,"speaker_name":58,"text":3121,"start_s":3122,"end_s":3123,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},531,"82160","Entonces siempre era de metal.",1669.64,1670.54,{"idx":3125,"utterance_id":3126,"speaker_name":58,"text":3127,"start_s":3128,"end_s":3129,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},532,"82161","Siempre metal.",1670.86,1671.62,{"idx":3131,"utterance_id":3132,"speaker_name":58,"text":3133,"start_s":3134,"end_s":3135,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},533,"82162","Y ahí están las cuestiones, ¿no?",1672.14,1674.32,{"idx":3137,"utterance_id":3138,"speaker_name":58,"text":3139,"start_s":3140,"end_s":3141,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},534,"82163","De la conservación del alimento caliente, ¿no?",1674.68,1676.84,{"idx":3143,"utterance_id":3144,"speaker_name":58,"text":3145,"start_s":3146,"end_s":3147,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},535,"82164","Y las cosas de cómo el pantaneiro usa todo ese material, ¿no?",1677.94,1682.38,{"idx":3149,"utterance_id":3150,"speaker_name":58,"text":3151,"start_s":3152,"end_s":3153,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},536,"82165","Entonces tratamos de traer aquí en gran medida el rescate de esta cultura, ¿no?",1682.42,1688.8,{"idx":3155,"utterance_id":3156,"speaker_name":58,"text":3157,"start_s":3158,"end_s":3159,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},537,"82166","¿Puedes tomar uno?",1689.1,1689.56,{"idx":3161,"utterance_id":3162,"speaker_name":58,"text":3163,"start_s":3164,"end_s":3165,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},538,"82167","Sí, puedes, siéntete a gusto.",1689.76,1690.68,{"idx":3167,"utterance_id":3168,"speaker_name":58,"text":3169,"start_s":3170,"end_s":3171,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},539,"82168","Siéntete a gusto.",1690.72,1691.88,{"idx":3173,"utterance_id":3174,"speaker_name":58,"text":3175,"start_s":3176,"end_s":3177,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},540,"82169","¿Esta es la sopa paraguaia?",1692.8,1694.78,{"idx":3179,"utterance_id":3180,"speaker_name":58,"text":3181,"start_s":3182,"end_s":3183,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},541,"82170","Ah, ¿sí?",1695.66,1695.86,{"idx":3185,"utterance_id":3186,"speaker_name":58,"text":3187,"start_s":3188,"end_s":3189,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},542,"82171","Es la sopa paraguaia; a pesar del nombre es un pastel, ¿no?",1696.24,1698.3,{"idx":3191,"utterance_id":3192,"speaker_name":58,"text":3193,"start_s":3194,"end_s":3195,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},543,"82172","Salado.",1698.42,1698.92,{"idx":3197,"utterance_id":3198,"speaker_name":58,"text":3199,"start_s":3200,"end_s":3201,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},544,"82173","La sopa paraguaia originalmente era una sopa, ¿no?",1699.54,1702.68,{"idx":3203,"utterance_id":3204,"speaker_name":58,"text":3205,"start_s":3206,"end_s":3207,"word_count":167,"indexable":14},545,"82174","Y entonces en los periodos de guerra el transporte del material era difícil y fueron añadiendo almidón de maíz y quedó más sólida.",1702.96,1713.28,{"idx":3209,"utterance_id":3210,"speaker_name":58,"text":3211,"start_s":3212,"end_s":3213,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},546,"82175","Suele decirse que eso es herencia de la guerra, ¿no?",1715.52,1718,{"idx":3215,"utterance_id":3216,"speaker_name":58,"text":3217,"start_s":3218,"end_s":3219,"word_count":27,"indexable":14},547,"82176","Desde entonces hasta hoy tenemos aquí algunas cosas que consideramos herencia de la guerra.",1719.36,1724.16,{"idx":3221,"utterance_id":3222,"speaker_name":58,"text":3223,"start_s":3224,"end_s":3225,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},548,"82177","La sopa paraguaia, la chipa.",1725.02,1727.24,{"idx":3227,"utterance_id":3228,"speaker_name":58,"text":3229,"start_s":3230,"end_s":3231,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},549,"82178","Por ejemplo, el porco monteiro, el buey marroá, el buey bagual.",1728.6,1732.34,{"idx":3233,"utterance_id":3234,"speaker_name":58,"text":3235,"start_s":3236,"end_s":3237,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},550,"82179","¿Qué es?",1733.44,1733.62,{"idx":3239,"utterance_id":3240,"speaker_name":58,"text":3241,"start_s":3242,"end_s":3243,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},551,"82180","Explíca, Calama, por favor.",1733.8,1734.76,{"idx":3245,"utterance_id":3246,"speaker_name":58,"text":3247,"start_s":3248,"end_s":3249,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},552,"82181","El caballo pantanero.",1735.04,1736.16,{"idx":3251,"utterance_id":3252,"speaker_name":58,"text":3253,"start_s":3254,"end_s":3255,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},553,"82182","Conozco al caballo pantanero.",1736.2,1737.04,{"idx":3257,"utterance_id":3258,"speaker_name":58,"text":3259,"start_s":3260,"end_s":3261,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},554,"82183","Entonces, el buey marroá: existe el buey bagual y el buey marroá.",1737.48,1741.26,{"idx":3263,"utterance_id":3264,"speaker_name":58,"text":3265,"start_s":3266,"end_s":3267,"word_count":187,"indexable":14},555,"82184","El bagual es el buey que se perdió, es de una propiedad y se perdió ahí, se fue volviendo lo que llamamos bagual.",1742.36,1753.44,{"idx":3269,"utterance_id":3270,"speaker_name":58,"text":3271,"start_s":3272,"end_s":3273,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},556,"82185","Se fue volviendo salvaje.",1753.88,1755.16,{"idx":3275,"utterance_id":3276,"speaker_name":58,"text":3277,"start_s":3278,"end_s":3279,"word_count":137,"indexable":14},557,"82186","Pero puede ser un buey que tiene marca, puede ser un buey que tiene divisa, ¿no?",1755.9,1759.54,{"idx":3281,"utterance_id":3282,"speaker_name":58,"text":3283,"start_s":3284,"end_s":3285,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},558,"82187","Solo está ahí suelto en la maleza.",1761,1763.66,{"idx":3287,"utterance_id":3288,"speaker_name":58,"text":3289,"start_s":3290,"end_s":3291,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},559,"82188","En cambio el marroá es aquel que nació salvaje.",1764.1,1767.56,{"idx":3293,"utterance_id":3294,"speaker_name":58,"text":3295,"start_s":3296,"end_s":3297,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},560,"82189","Puede ser hijo de un buey bagual, pero nació allá en el monte.",1768.28,1772.7,{"idx":3299,"utterance_id":3300,"speaker_name":58,"text":3301,"start_s":3302,"end_s":3303,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},561,"82190","No tiene divisa, no tiene marca, nunca supo lo que es una vacuna, nada.",1772.76,1776.68,{"idx":3305,"utterance_id":3306,"speaker_name":58,"text":3307,"start_s":3308,"end_s":3309,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},562,"82191","Entonces ese es el marroá, ¿no?",1777.24,1779.02,{"idx":3311,"utterance_id":3312,"speaker_name":58,"text":3313,"start_s":3314,"end_s":3315,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},563,"82192","Nació allá en el...",1779.1,1780.44,{"idx":3317,"utterance_id":3318,"speaker_name":58,"text":3319,"start_s":3320,"end_s":3321,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},564,"82193","¿Y todavía hay bueyes sueltos?",1780.58,1782.98,{"idx":3323,"utterance_id":3324,"speaker_name":58,"text":3325,"start_s":3326,"end_s":3327,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},565,"82194","El bagual existe, ahora el marroá, si lo dejas, vuelve, ¿no?",1784.08,1789.28,{"idx":3329,"utterance_id":3330,"speaker_name":58,"text":3331,"start_s":3332,"end_s":3333,"word_count":149,"indexable":14},566,"82195","Entonces hoy tenemos la cuestión de grandes estancias que tienen ganado que se pierde, va quedando bagual, ¿no?",1790.02,1798.06,{"idx":3335,"utterance_id":3336,"speaker_name":58,"text":3337,"start_s":3338,"end_s":3339,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},567,"82196","Como lo llamamos.",1798.12,1798.72,{"idx":3341,"utterance_id":3342,"speaker_name":58,"text":3343,"start_s":3344,"end_s":3345,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},568,"82197","¿Y el marroá... y el porco monteiro?",1799.44,1801.78,{"idx":3347,"utterance_id":3348,"speaker_name":58,"text":3349,"start_s":3350,"end_s":3351,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},569,"82198","¿qué es?",1801.82,1801.94,{"idx":3353,"utterance_id":3354,"speaker_name":58,"text":3355,"start_s":3356,"end_s":3357,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},570,"82199","¿El cerdo que se escapó?",1801.98,1802.64,{"idx":3359,"utterance_id":3360,"speaker_name":58,"text":3361,"start_s":3362,"end_s":3363,"word_count":131,"indexable":14},571,"82200","El porco monteiro es un cerdo que tenemos desde la colonización, empezó a surgir.",1802.88,1810.96,{"idx":3365,"utterance_id":3366,"speaker_name":58,"text":3367,"start_s":3368,"end_s":3369,"word_count":143,"indexable":14},572,"82201","Cuando vinieron aquí los españoles, trajeron el cerdo, trajeron el buey, trajeron el caballo en la colonización.",1812.54,1819.14,{"idx":3371,"utterance_id":3372,"speaker_name":58,"text":3373,"start_s":3374,"end_s":3375,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},573,"82202","Y entonces, durante el período de guerra, esos animales se perdieron.",1819.72,1823.84,{"idx":3377,"utterance_id":3378,"speaker_name":58,"text":3379,"start_s":3380,"end_s":3381,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},574,"82203","En la locura de una guerra, varios animales se perdieron.",1824.42,1827.48,{"idx":3383,"utterance_id":3384,"speaker_name":58,"text":3385,"start_s":3386,"end_s":3387,"word_count":215,"indexable":14},575,"82204","Y el buey, el cerdo, principalmente el cerdo que estaba aquí con los españoles, el monteiro, es lo más cercano posible a lo que en Europa llaman 'pata negra'.",1827.92,1838.7,{"idx":3389,"utterance_id":3390,"speaker_name":58,"text":3391,"start_s":3392,"end_s":3393,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},576,"82205","Porque se trajo el cerdo negro.",1839.06,1841.32,{"idx":3395,"utterance_id":3396,"speaker_name":58,"text":3397,"start_s":3398,"end_s":3399,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},577,"82206","Y entonces, con eso de que los animales se vuelven salvajes...",1841.86,1844.56,{"idx":3401,"utterance_id":3402,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3403,"start_s":3404,"end_s":3405,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},578,"82207","¿Pero hay por ahí?",1845.14,1845.72,{"idx":3407,"utterance_id":3408,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3409,"start_s":3410,"end_s":3411,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},579,"82208","Porque es la mejor raza de cerdo que existe.",1845.98,1848.24,{"idx":3413,"utterance_id":3414,"speaker_name":58,"text":3415,"start_s":3416,"end_s":3417,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},580,"82209","Y entonces, hoy, ¿qué hace el peón pantaneiro, el hombre pantaneiro?",1848.56,1852.74,{"idx":3419,"utterance_id":3420,"speaker_name":58,"text":3421,"start_s":3422,"end_s":3423,"word_count":253,"indexable":14},581,"82210","Está en la faena con el ganado, está ahí en el campo, ve un lote de cerdos, va, toma los machitos, los laza, los castra en el campo y en la oreja izquierda corta la puntita.",1852.78,1865.38,{"idx":3425,"utterance_id":3426,"speaker_name":58,"text":3427,"start_s":3428,"end_s":3429,"word_count":187,"indexable":14},582,"82211","Deja el animal allí, se va a curar y va a empezar a engordar allí, que es lo que el pantaneiro come de los cerdos del monte, ¿no?",1866.42,1873.8,{"idx":3431,"utterance_id":3432,"speaker_name":58,"text":3433,"start_s":3434,"end_s":3435,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},583,"82212","Entonces es una carne excelente, ¿no?",1874.48,1876.78,{"idx":3437,"utterance_id":3438,"speaker_name":58,"text":3439,"start_s":3440,"end_s":3441,"word_count":155,"indexable":14},584,"82213","Porque viene de ese cerdo que es extremadamente famoso del pantanero y está viviendo ahí, comiendo solo fruta, solo raíz, ¿no?",1876.84,1883.74,{"idx":3443,"utterance_id":3444,"speaker_name":58,"text":3445,"start_s":3446,"end_s":3447,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},585,"82214","¿Es diferente del jabalí, no?",1884.5,1886.64,{"idx":3449,"utterance_id":3450,"speaker_name":58,"text":3451,"start_s":3452,"end_s":3453,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},586,"82215","Sí, eso es una plaga, ¿no?",1887.18,1888.38,{"idx":925,"utterance_id":3455,"speaker_name":58,"text":3456,"start_s":3457,"end_s":3458,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},"82216","Diferente del jabalí.",1888.56,1889.22,{"idx":3460,"utterance_id":3461,"speaker_name":58,"text":3462,"start_s":3463,"end_s":3464,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},588,"82217","¿Hay por aquí ese tal de jabalí?",1889.26,1890.14,{"idx":3466,"utterance_id":3467,"speaker_name":58,"text":3468,"start_s":3469,"end_s":3470,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},589,"82218","Ahora apareció, apareció por ahí.",1890.18,1892.02,{"idx":3472,"utterance_id":3473,"speaker_name":58,"text":3474,"start_s":3475,"end_s":3476,"word_count":247,"topic_slug":3477,"topic_label":3478,"target_id":3479,"target_proposition":3480,"stance":39,"stance_confidence":3481,"rationale":3482,"indexable":65},590,"82219","Ya está por ahí y es lo que acabaste de decir: para el productor es una plaga, porque se come el ternero, se come el potro, se come la oveja, se come lo que encuentre.",1892.26,1903.76,"politica-ambiental","Política ambiental","1160cc43-bc65-4d99-a2fc-c83fa05d1560","implementar control reproductivo y barreras para controlar al javaporco",0.76,"califica al jabalí de 'praga' y describe daños a los productores, sin proponer acción explícita.",{"idx":3484,"utterance_id":3485,"speaker_name":58,"text":3486,"start_s":3487,"end_s":3488,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},591,"82220","Se come todo, esto es como un infierno.",1903.8,1906.18,{"idx":3490,"utterance_id":3491,"speaker_name":58,"text":3492,"start_s":3493,"end_s":3494,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},592,"82221","Y no hay el...",1906.62,1907.54,{"idx":3496,"utterance_id":3497,"speaker_name":58,"text":3498,"start_s":3499,"end_s":3500,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},593,"82222","Depredador.",1907.88,1908.24,{"idx":3502,"utterance_id":3503,"speaker_name":58,"text":3504,"start_s":3505,"end_s":3506,"word_count":80,"topic_slug":3477,"topic_label":3478,"target_id":3479,"target_proposition":3480,"stance":39,"stance_confidence":40,"rationale":3507,"indexable":14},594,"82223","Lo peor de todo es la falta del depredador.",1908.34,1910.68,"afirma que el problema es 'a falta do predador', describiendo la causa sin proponer política.",{"idx":3509,"utterance_id":3510,"speaker_name":58,"text":3511,"start_s":3512,"end_s":3513,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},595,"82224","El jaguar no consigue atraparlo.",1910.98,1912.38,{"idx":3515,"utterance_id":3516,"speaker_name":58,"text":3517,"start_s":3518,"end_s":3519,"word_count":131,"indexable":14},596,"82225","El jaguar es un animal así, que se mete con lo que considera comida fácil.",1913.1,1920.56,{"idx":3521,"utterance_id":3522,"speaker_name":58,"text":3523,"start_s":3524,"end_s":3525,"word_count":34,"topic_slug":3477,"topic_label":3478,"target_id":3479,"target_proposition":3480,"stance":39,"stance_confidence":206,"rationale":3526,"indexable":14},597,"82226","Y el jabalí, el javaporco, esos, no son comida fácil, ¿no?",1921.36,1924.22,"observa que los javalis 'não são comida fácil', describiendo la dificultad de control natural.",{"idx":3528,"utterance_id":3529,"speaker_name":58,"text":3530,"start_s":3531,"end_s":3532,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},598,"82227","El animal tiene unos colmillos enormes; para el jaguar es un peligro.",1924.98,1928.58,{"idx":3534,"utterance_id":3535,"speaker_name":58,"text":3536,"start_s":3537,"end_s":3538,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},599,"82228","Entonces va a evitar el peligro, el jaguar va a evitar el peligro.",1928.66,1931.02,{"idx":3540,"utterance_id":3541,"speaker_name":58,"text":3542,"start_s":3543,"end_s":3544,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},600,"82229","Va a comerse un ternero que no ofrece resistencia.",1931.08,1935.16,{"idx":3546,"utterance_id":3547,"speaker_name":58,"text":3548,"start_s":3549,"end_s":3550,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},601,"82230","¿Creo que el caimán, no?",1935.2,1936,{"idx":3552,"utterance_id":3553,"speaker_name":58,"text":3554,"start_s":3555,"end_s":3556,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},602,"82231","El caimán, la capibara.",1936.08,1937.48,{"idx":3558,"utterance_id":3559,"speaker_name":58,"text":3560,"start_s":3561,"end_s":3562,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},603,"82232","El caimán entra.",1937.98,1938.76,{"idx":965,"utterance_id":3564,"speaker_name":58,"text":3565,"start_s":3566,"end_s":3567,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},"82233","Otra cuestión: entra también el sabor de la carne.",1938.9,1941.5,{"idx":3569,"utterance_id":3570,"speaker_name":58,"text":3571,"start_s":3572,"end_s":3573,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},605,"82234","Entiendo, le gusta comer caimán.",1941.64,1942.5,{"idx":3575,"utterance_id":3576,"speaker_name":58,"text":3577,"start_s":3578,"end_s":3579,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},606,"82235","Entonces le gusta comer caimán, porque el jaguar es un gato gigante.",1942.54,1945.32,{"idx":3581,"utterance_id":3582,"speaker_name":58,"text":3583,"start_s":3584,"end_s":3585,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},607,"82236","Al gato le gusta el pescado.",1945.58,1946.62,{"idx":3587,"utterance_id":3588,"speaker_name":58,"text":3589,"start_s":3590,"end_s":3591,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},608,"82237","El animal que más se parece al pez es el caimán.",1946.68,1949.7,{"idx":3593,"utterance_id":3594,"speaker_name":58,"text":3595,"start_s":3596,"end_s":3597,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},609,"82238","Entonces uno de los animales más depredados hoy en la naturaleza por el jaguar es el caimán.",1950.38,1954.56,{"idx":3599,"utterance_id":3600,"speaker_name":58,"text":3601,"start_s":3602,"end_s":3603,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},610,"82239","Después la capibara, luego el cerdo y después vienen los bovinos.",1954.86,1960.36,{"idx":3605,"utterance_id":3606,"speaker_name":58,"text":3607,"start_s":3608,"end_s":3609,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},611,"82240","Mira aquí, Renan, hay una cosa muy interesante de ver.",1963.24,1967.42,{"idx":3611,"utterance_id":3612,"speaker_name":58,"text":3613,"start_s":3614,"end_s":3615,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},612,"82241","Tengo esta palmera aquí, es la palmera del acuri.",1968.66,1974.18,{"idx":3617,"utterance_id":3618,"speaker_name":58,"text":3619,"start_s":3620,"end_s":3621,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},613,"82242","Recordando bien que es acuri.",1976.06,1979.34,{"idx":3623,"utterance_id":3624,"speaker_name":58,"text":3625,"start_s":3626,"end_s":3627,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},614,"82243","Mucha gente en la región la llama bacuri, pero esta es la palmera del acuri.",1979.88,1983.04,{"idx":3629,"utterance_id":3630,"speaker_name":58,"text":3631,"start_s":3632,"end_s":3633,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},615,"82244","Aquí, mira, tengo su floración; probablemente se abrió esta noche.",1983.42,1987.2,{"idx":3635,"utterance_id":3636,"speaker_name":58,"text":3637,"start_s":3638,"end_s":3639,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},616,"82245","Rompió la vaina.",1987.78,1989.84,{"idx":3641,"utterance_id":3642,"speaker_name":58,"text":3643,"start_s":3644,"end_s":3645,"word_count":209,"indexable":14},617,"82246","Aquí, mira, una espiga; salió la floración, las abejas vendrán a coger el polen y lo fecundarán y ahí nacerá otro racimo ya con el frutito, ¿ves?",1989.88,2000.84,{"idx":3647,"utterance_id":3648,"speaker_name":58,"text":3649,"start_s":3650,"end_s":3651,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},618,"82247","Entonces nace flor y fruto en el mismo árbol en diferentes fases, porque es hermafrodita.",2000.88,2008.36,{"idx":3653,"utterance_id":3654,"speaker_name":58,"text":3655,"start_s":3656,"end_s":3657,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},619,"82248","Es tanto una palmera macho como hembra.",2008.74,2011.08,{"idx":3659,"utterance_id":3660,"speaker_name":58,"text":3661,"start_s":3662,"end_s":3663,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},620,"82249","Y es la base alimentaria de la guacamaya azul.",2012.46,2014.5,{"idx":3665,"utterance_id":3666,"speaker_name":58,"text":3667,"start_s":3668,"end_s":3669,"word_count":167,"indexable":14},621,"82250","La guacamaya azul es el único animal capaz de romper ese coco pequeñito que está allá adelante para comer la castaña que hay dentro.",2015.16,2020.58,{"idx":3671,"utterance_id":3672,"speaker_name":58,"text":3673,"start_s":3674,"end_s":3675,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},622,"82251","¡Caramba, no lo sabía.",2021.8,2022.64,{"idx":3677,"utterance_id":3678,"speaker_name":58,"text":3679,"start_s":3680,"end_s":3681,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},623,"82252","Mira, este es el coquito del acuri.",2023.06,2026.04,{"idx":3683,"utterance_id":3684,"speaker_name":58,"text":3685,"start_s":3686,"end_s":3687,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},624,"82253","Es un coco, de verdad.",2026.56,2027.38,{"idx":3689,"utterance_id":3690,"speaker_name":58,"text":3691,"start_s":3692,"end_s":3693,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},625,"82254","Y dentro tiene castañas.",2027.42,2029.04,{"idx":3695,"utterance_id":3696,"speaker_name":58,"text":3697,"start_s":3698,"end_s":3699,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},626,"82255","Puede tener hasta cuatro castañas.",2029.56,2031.28,{"idx":3701,"utterance_id":3702,"speaker_name":58,"text":3703,"start_s":3704,"end_s":3705,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},627,"82256","¿Es lo que come la guacamaya?",2032.96,2033.7,{"idx":3707,"utterance_id":3708,"speaker_name":58,"text":3709,"start_s":3710,"end_s":3711,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},628,"82257","Es lo que come la guacamaya.",2033.86,2034.8,{"idx":3713,"utterance_id":3714,"speaker_name":58,"text":3715,"start_s":3716,"end_s":3717,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},629,"82258","Es muy especializada tanto en la alimentación como en la nidificación.",2035.02,2039.06,{"idx":3719,"utterance_id":3720,"speaker_name":58,"text":3721,"start_s":3722,"end_s":3723,"word_count":131,"indexable":14},630,"82259","Porque solo anida en dos árboles de aquí del Pantanal, que son el manduvi y la chimbuva.",2039.66,2046.44,{"idx":3725,"utterance_id":3726,"speaker_name":58,"text":3727,"start_s":3728,"end_s":3729,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},631,"82260","Natural, nidos naturales, ¿no?",2047.7,2049.34,{"idx":3731,"utterance_id":3732,"speaker_name":58,"text":3733,"start_s":3734,"end_s":3735,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},632,"82261","Hoy hay un proyecto que instala nidos artificiales.",2049.48,2052.74,{"idx":3737,"utterance_id":3738,"speaker_name":58,"text":3739,"start_s":3740,"end_s":3741,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},633,"82262","Aquí en este sendero ya he visto jaguar, puma, anta, paca, pecarí de labios blancos, pecarí.",2054.9,2064.5,{"idx":3743,"utterance_id":3744,"speaker_name":58,"text":3745,"start_s":3746,"end_s":3747,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},634,"82263","Pero algunos que me impresionan, por ejemplo.",2065.82,2069.42,{"idx":3749,"utterance_id":3750,"speaker_name":58,"text":3751,"start_s":3752,"end_s":3753,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},635,"82264","En toda mi vida en el Pantanal, son pocos los lugares en los que he visto cachorro-vinagre.",2070.9,2075.76,{"idx":3755,"utterance_id":3756,"speaker_name":58,"text":3757,"start_s":3758,"end_s":3759,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},636,"82265","Ah, yo ya vi ese cachorro, es un perrito, ¿no?",2076.28,2078.28,{"idx":3761,"utterance_id":3762,"speaker_name":58,"text":3763,"start_s":3764,"end_s":3765,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},637,"82266","Sí, y aquí lo he visto con cierta frecuencia.",2078.48,2082.38,{"idx":3767,"utterance_id":3768,"speaker_name":58,"text":3769,"start_s":3770,"end_s":3771,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},638,"82267","Es bastante raro, ¿no?",2082.44,2083.26,{"idx":3773,"utterance_id":3774,"speaker_name":58,"text":3775,"start_s":3776,"end_s":3777,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},639,"82268","Raro, rarísimo.",2083.42,2084,{"idx":3779,"utterance_id":3780,"speaker_name":58,"text":3781,"start_s":3782,"end_s":3783,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},640,"82269","Vive en medio de la selva.",2084.04,2084.76,{"idx":3785,"utterance_id":3786,"speaker_name":58,"text":3787,"start_s":3788,"end_s":3789,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},641,"82270","Vive en medio de la selva, eso es lo que dijiste, raro, extremadamente raro.",2085.4,2088.88,{"idx":3791,"utterance_id":3792,"speaker_name":58,"text":3793,"start_s":3794,"end_s":3795,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},642,"82271","Y tenemos este animal aquí.",2089.28,2090.58,{"idx":3797,"utterance_id":3798,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3799,"start_s":3800,"end_s":3801,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},643,"82272","¿La onza parda huye de la pintada?",2092.56,2094.62,{"idx":3803,"utterance_id":3804,"speaker_name":58,"text":3805,"start_s":3806,"end_s":3807,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},644,"82273","No cohabitan, ¿no?",2095.22,2096.96,{"idx":3809,"utterance_id":3810,"speaker_name":58,"text":3811,"start_s":3812,"end_s":3813,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},645,"82274","Entonces ella... 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abierto.",2108.56,2111.76,{"idx":3839,"utterance_id":3840,"speaker_name":58,"text":3841,"start_s":3842,"end_s":3843,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},650,"82279","Es difícil verla aquí dentro de la selva.",2113.64,2115.66,{"idx":3845,"utterance_id":3846,"speaker_name":58,"text":3847,"start_s":3848,"end_s":3849,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},651,"82280","En cambio, la pintada siempre estará por aquí, siempre dentro.",2115.74,2119,{"idx":3851,"utterance_id":3852,"speaker_name":58,"text":3853,"start_s":3854,"end_s":3855,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},652,"82281","¿Pero había huellas de onza entonces?",2119.56,2120.94,{"idx":3857,"utterance_id":3858,"speaker_name":58,"text":3015,"start_s":3859,"end_s":3860,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},653,"82282",2121.3,2121.54,{"idx":3862,"utterance_id":3863,"speaker_name":58,"text":3864,"start_s":3865,"end_s":3866,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},654,"82283","Había huellas de onza pintada aquí ayer.",2121.98,2123.86,{"idx":3868,"utterance_id":3869,"speaker_name":58,"text":3870,"start_s":3871,"end_s":3872,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},655,"82284","Había pasado por aquí recientemente.",2124.6,2126.46,{"idx":3874,"utterance_id":3875,"speaker_name":58,"text":3876,"start_s":3877,"end_s":3878,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},656,"82285","Es que los otros caballos ya borraron la huella, ¿no?",2127.72,2130.04,{"idx":3880,"utterance_id":3881,"speaker_name":58,"text":3882,"start_s":3883,"end_s":3884,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},657,"82286","Pero es un animal con hábitos más nocturnos, ¿no?",2131.14,2132.58,{"idx":3886,"utterance_id":3887,"speaker_name":58,"text":3888,"start_s":3889,"end_s":3890,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},658,"82287","Entonces, eso varía bastante.",2133.28,2137.64,{"idx":3892,"utterance_id":3893,"speaker_name":58,"text":3894,"start_s":3895,"end_s":3896,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},659,"82288","Aquí, para mí, puedo encontrarla en cualquier momento.",2137.7,2141,{"idx":3898,"utterance_id":3899,"speaker_name":58,"text":3900,"start_s":3901,"end_s":3902,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},660,"82289","De día, de noche, porque es un área fresca, ¿no?",2141.1,2144.42,{"idx":3904,"utterance_id":3905,"speaker_name":58,"text":3906,"start_s":3907,"end_s":3908,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},661,"82290","Ella, en realidad, evita el calor.",2145.88,2147.74,{"idx":3910,"utterance_id":3911,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3912,"start_s":3913,"end_s":3914,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},662,"82291","Y nada más, ¿no?",2148.56,2149.46,{"idx":3916,"utterance_id":3917,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3918,"start_s":3919,"end_s":3920,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},663,"82292","Es el mejor felino para nadar.",2149.6,2150.76,{"idx":3922,"utterance_id":3923,"speaker_name":58,"text":3924,"start_s":3925,"end_s":3926,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},664,"82293","Sí, exactamente.",2151.12,2152.84,{"idx":3928,"utterance_id":3929,"speaker_name":58,"text":3930,"start_s":3931,"end_s":3932,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},665,"82294","Voy a hacer una paradita aquí.",2153.76,2157.24,{"idx":3934,"utterance_id":3935,"speaker_name":58,"text":3936,"start_s":3937,"end_s":3938,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},666,"82295","Porque aquí es un buen punto para que ustedes entiendan.",2158.56,2161.82,{"idx":3940,"utterance_id":3941,"speaker_name":58,"text":3942,"start_s":3943,"end_s":3944,"word_count":167,"indexable":14},667,"82296","Bueno, aquí, como le estoy diciendo a Renan, este es para mí un punto que siempre es estrategia detenerme aquí, ¿por qué?",2163.18,2170.88,{"idx":3946,"utterance_id":3947,"speaker_name":58,"text":3948,"start_s":3949,"end_s":3950,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},668,"82297","Para que ustedes entiendan dónde estamos, principalmente dónde estamos en el Pantanal.",2171.6,2177,{"idx":3952,"utterance_id":3953,"speaker_name":58,"text":3954,"start_s":3955,"end_s":3956,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},669,"82298","Entonces aquí, si miras, verás la subida.",2177.54,2180.68,{"idx":3958,"utterance_id":3959,"speaker_name":58,"text":3960,"start_s":3961,"end_s":3962,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},670,"82299","Entonces estamos subiendo hacia el Planalto (Palacio Presidencial).",2181.68,2183.58,{"idx":3964,"utterance_id":3965,"speaker_name":58,"text":3966,"start_s":3967,"end_s":3968,"word_count":143,"indexable":14},671,"82300","Y hacia acá, hacia donde te imagines aquí... Hasta llegar allí a Mato Grosso, allí arriba, es llanura.",2184.18,2190.14,{"idx":3970,"utterance_id":3971,"speaker_name":58,"text":3972,"start_s":3973,"end_s":3974,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},672,"82301","Esto aquí es el área plana, plana.",2190.66,2192.08,{"idx":3976,"utterance_id":3977,"speaker_name":58,"text":3978,"start_s":3979,"end_s":3980,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},673,"82302","Cada vez que vayas allí, estás entrando dentro del Pantanal.",2192.18,2195,{"idx":3982,"utterance_id":3983,"speaker_name":58,"text":3984,"start_s":3985,"end_s":3986,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},674,"82303","Entonces este riachuelito está drenando hacia allá.",2195.36,2198.1,{"idx":3988,"utterance_id":3989,"speaker_name":58,"text":3990,"start_s":3991,"end_s":3992,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},675,"82304","Así que está llevando lo que quedó de las aguas aquí.",2198.58,2201.66,{"idx":3994,"utterance_id":3995,"speaker_name":58,"text":3996,"start_s":3997,"end_s":3998,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},676,"82305","Pero en el período de crecida, el agua llega hasta después de ese árbol de arueira allí.",2202.06,2206.08,{"idx":4000,"utterance_id":4001,"speaker_name":58,"text":4002,"start_s":4003,"end_s":4004,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},677,"82306","Entonces queda completamente anegado.",2206.78,2209.04,{"idx":4006,"utterance_id":4007,"speaker_name":58,"text":4008,"start_s":4009,"end_s":4010,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},678,"82307","Y estoy hablando de cuatro meses de inundación.",2209.08,2211.94,{"idx":4012,"utterance_id":4013,"speaker_name":58,"text":4014,"start_s":4015,"end_s":4016,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},679,"82308","Entonces estamos en un divisor.",2212.16,2214.58,{"idx":4018,"utterance_id":4019,"speaker_name":58,"text":4020,"start_s":4021,"end_s":4022,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},680,"82309","divisor de biomas, divisor de situaciones.",2215.04,2217.66,{"idx":4024,"utterance_id":4025,"speaker_name":58,"text":4026,"start_s":4027,"end_s":4028,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},681,"82310","Hacia acá el bioma va a ser diferente.",2217.7,2218.86,{"idx":4030,"utterance_id":4031,"speaker_name":58,"text":4032,"start_s":4033,"end_s":4034,"word_count":161,"indexable":14},682,"82311","Hacia allí el bioma ya aparece, tendrás mucha más mata de galería, es bosque húmedo, pero no anegable, es zona alta.",2218.9,2226.78,{"idx":4036,"utterance_id":4037,"speaker_name":58,"text":4038,"start_s":4039,"end_s":4040,"word_count":195,"topic_slug":4041,"topic_label":4042,"target_id":4043,"target_proposition":4044,"stance":39,"stance_confidence":184,"rationale":4045,"indexable":14},683,"82312","y llegarás al cerradón, llegarás al área de cerrado, que hoy son las áreas de uso más comunes para la ganadería, para la agricultura.",2226.88,2235.72,"agricultura-e-agronegocio","Agricultura y agronegocio","c229d913-8959-413e-adb9-5492d985d506","regular el uso del suelo para agricultura y ganadería","afirma que las áreas se usan para ganadería y agricultura sin proponer política.",{"idx":4047,"utterance_id":4048,"speaker_name":58,"text":4049,"start_s":4050,"end_s":4051,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},684,"82313","Y de aquí en adelante es más la ganadería en sí.",2236.36,2239.32,{"idx":4053,"utterance_id":4054,"speaker_name":58,"text":4055,"start_s":4056,"end_s":4057,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},685,"82314","Y hoy el turismo, usando las partes que el turismo puede utilizar.",2239.4,2243.34,{"idx":4059,"utterance_id":4060,"speaker_name":58,"text":4061,"start_s":4062,"end_s":4063,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},686,"82315","Es un divisor de biomas.",2245.54,2248.34,{"idx":4065,"utterance_id":4066,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4067,"start_s":4068,"end_s":4069,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},687,"82316","Qué interesante, de 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¿ves?",2407.32,2414.58,{"idx":4292,"utterance_id":4293,"speaker_name":58,"text":4294,"start_s":4295,"end_s":4296,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},725,"82354","Ah, ya.",2414.62,2415.68,{"idx":4298,"utterance_id":4299,"speaker_name":58,"text":4300,"start_s":4301,"end_s":4302,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},726,"82355","Esto aquí es el agua que subió.",2415.96,2417.06,{"idx":4304,"utterance_id":4305,"speaker_name":58,"text":4306,"start_s":4307,"end_s":4308,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},727,"82356","Sí, el agua subió.",2417.2,2418.14,{"idx":4310,"utterance_id":4311,"speaker_name":58,"text":4312,"start_s":4313,"end_s":4314,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},728,"82357","Cuando el agua bajó, quedó la vegetación.",2418.22,2420.6,{"idx":4316,"utterance_id":4317,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4318,"start_s":4319,"end_s":4320,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},729,"82358","Entonces quien vive en esta región es así, es un ciclo de estaciones de crecida, 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turismo.",2615.5,2617.74,{"idx":4632,"utterance_id":4633,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4634,"start_s":4635,"end_s":4636,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},781,"82410","Es mucho más bonito de lo que la gente imagina.",2620.52,2622.5,{"idx":4638,"utterance_id":4639,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4640,"start_s":4641,"end_s":4642,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},782,"82411","Hay algunas regiones de Pernambuco a las que fuimos que me parecieron muy buenas.",2623.04,2625.62,{"idx":4644,"utterance_id":4645,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4646,"start_s":4647,"end_s":4648,"word_count":149,"indexable":14},783,"82412","La parte amazónica, fuimos a la isla de Marajó, hay muchas cosas muy buenas cuando vas a explorar.",2627.78,2633.78,{"idx":4650,"utterance_id":4651,"speaker_name":58,"text":4652,"start_s":4653,"end_s":4654,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},784,"82413","Biomas completamente diferentes, 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sí.",2655.96,2656.8,{"idx":4680,"utterance_id":4681,"speaker_name":58,"text":4682,"start_s":4683,"end_s":4684,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},789,"82418","Porque es una cosa que... ¿Es una zona de transición o no?",2657.22,2660.94,{"idx":4686,"utterance_id":4687,"speaker_name":58,"text":4688,"start_s":4689,"end_s":4690,"word_count":155,"indexable":14},790,"82419","El Pantanal, en realidad, tiene regiones que son zonas de transición y, al mismo tiempo, es un mosaico de biomas.",2662.66,2671.94,{"idx":4692,"utterance_id":4693,"speaker_name":58,"text":4694,"start_s":4695,"end_s":4696,"word_count":173,"indexable":14},791,"82420","Es un mosaico que, para que te hagas una idea, solemos decir que el Pantanal son... 10 o 12 pantanales diferentes en una región.",2672.6,2684.62,{"idx":4698,"utterance_id":4699,"speaker_name":58,"text":4700,"start_s":4701,"end_s":4702,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},792,"82421","¿Por qué?",2685.28,2685.56,{"idx":4704,"utterance_id":4705,"speaker_name":58,"text":4706,"start_s":4707,"end_s":4708,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},793,"82422","Porque tenemos ese mosaico de biomas.",2685.7,2687.64,{"idx":4710,"utterance_id":4711,"speaker_name":58,"text":4712,"start_s":4713,"end_s":4714,"word_count":209,"indexable":14},794,"82423","Tienes parte del Pantanal que es Caatinga, tienes parte del Pantanal que es sabana, tienes el Cerrado pantanero, tienes un bioma más... próximo de la Mata Atlántica.",2687.7,2701.14,{"idx":4716,"utterance_id":4717,"speaker_name":58,"text":4718,"start_s":4719,"end_s":4720,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},795,"82424","Entonces ese mosaico es lo que hace que todo esto sea interesante.",2701.54,2707.38,{"idx":4722,"utterance_id":4723,"speaker_name":58,"text":4724,"start_s":4725,"end_s":4726,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},796,"82425","Porque puedes tener varias áreas de transición.",2707.58,2712.16,{"idx":4728,"utterance_id":4729,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4730,"start_s":4731,"end_s":4732,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},797,"82426","Y en común, ¿qué une a todas ellas?",2712.3,2714.72,{"idx":4734,"utterance_id":4735,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4736,"start_s":4737,"end_s":4738,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},798,"82427","¿Es la inundación?",2715.24,2716.02,{"idx":4740,"utterance_id":4741,"speaker_name":58,"text":4330,"start_s":4742,"end_s":4743,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},799,"82428",2717.14,2717.84,{"idx":4745,"utterance_id":4746,"speaker_name":58,"text":4747,"start_s":4748,"end_s":4749,"word_count":131,"indexable":14},800,"82429","Lo que todas tienen en común, que son biomas diferentes, dentro de la mayor llanura anegable del mundo.",2718.54,2724.82,{"idx":4751,"utterance_id":4752,"speaker_name":58,"text":4753,"start_s":4754,"end_s":4755,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},801,"82430","Entonces... Esto hace que este lugar sea sensacional, ¿no?",2726.06,2733.8,{"idx":4757,"utterance_id":4758,"speaker_name":58,"text":4759,"start_s":4760,"end_s":4761,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},802,"82431","Una cosa increíble.",2733.92,2734.88,{"idx":4763,"utterance_id":4764,"speaker_name":58,"text":4765,"start_s":4766,"end_s":4767,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},803,"82432","Porque el agua va a afectar cada área de una manera diferente, ¿no?",2735.7,2739.86,{"idx":4769,"utterance_id":4770,"speaker_name":58,"text":4330,"start_s":4771,"end_s":4772,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},804,"82433",2740.32,2740.86,{"idx":4774,"utterance_id":4775,"speaker_name":58,"text":4776,"start_s":4777,"end_s":4778,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},805,"82434","En tiempos diferentes, cada una de esas regiones o subregiones tiene ese ritmo diferente, ¿no?",2740.96,2750.46,{"idx":4780,"utterance_id":4781,"speaker_name":58,"text":4782,"start_s":4783,"end_s":4784,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},806,"82435","Aun con la cuestión de la crecida.",2751.04,2753.96,{"idx":4786,"utterance_id":4787,"speaker_name":58,"text":4788,"start_s":4789,"end_s":4790,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},807,"82436","tienes esos ritmos diferentes para cada subregión.",2754.94,2758.38,{"idx":4792,"utterance_id":4793,"speaker_name":58,"text":4794,"start_s":4795,"end_s":4796,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},808,"82437","por ejemplo, nosotros aquí estamos en el borde.",2759.44,2761.56,{"idx":4798,"utterance_id":4799,"speaker_name":58,"text":4800,"start_s":4801,"end_s":4802,"word_count":195,"indexable":14},809,"82438","entonces tenemos una crecida primaria donde todo comienza, comienza aquí pero también por otro lado es donde todo empieza a terminar más rápido que en los otros.",2762.08,2771.34,{"idx":4804,"utterance_id":4805,"speaker_name":58,"text":4806,"start_s":4807,"end_s":4808,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},810,"82439","entonces cuando allá abajo todavía se está llenando, aquí para nosotros ya estamos en la bajante.",2772.22,2777.92,{"idx":4810,"utterance_id":4811,"speaker_name":58,"text":4812,"start_s":4813,"end_s":4814,"word_count":27,"indexable":14},811,"82440","entonces es muy interesante estas cosas. Aquí, toda esa área plana allá abajo, todo es área anegable.",2778.68,2787.34,{"idx":4816,"utterance_id":4817,"speaker_name":58,"text":4818,"start_s":4819,"end_s":4820,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},812,"82441","Todo es área que va, en el período de la estación de la crecida, todo queda anegado allí.",2787.78,2792.8,{"idx":4822,"utterance_id":4823,"speaker_name":58,"text":4824,"start_s":4825,"end_s":4826,"word_count":195,"indexable":14},813,"82442","Entonces, la cuestión que te dije, el pantanero tiene que tener área de transición, para llevar su ganadería hacia lo alto, para escapar de la crecida.",2793.42,2802.3,{"idx":4828,"utterance_id":4829,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4830,"start_s":4831,"end_s":4832,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},814,"82443","Así, hay una colonización antigua que vino para acá, ¿no?",2805.8,2808.2,{"idx":4834,"utterance_id":4835,"speaker_name":58,"text":127,"start_s":4836,"end_s":4837,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},815,"82444",2808.46,2808.94,{"idx":4839,"utterance_id":4840,"speaker_name":58,"text":4841,"start_s":4842,"end_s":4843,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},816,"82445","Sabes, de los bandeirantes, de las monções.",2809.32,2811.8,{"idx":4845,"utterance_id":4846,"speaker_name":58,"text":4847,"start_s":4848,"end_s":4849,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},817,"82446","Los bandeirantes, los jesuitas, los españoles, de las monções a las que te refieres, ¿te refieres a los jesuitas, no?",2812.44,2818.86,{"idx":4851,"utterance_id":4852,"speaker_name":58,"text":4853,"start_s":4854,"end_s":4855,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},818,"82447","Esa época, ¿no?",2819.78,2820.74,{"idx":4857,"utterance_id":4858,"speaker_name":58,"text":4859,"start_s":4860,"end_s":4861,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},819,"82448","Entonces, tenemos una cultura bastante diversificada por eso, ¿no?",2821.32,2826.64,{"idx":4863,"utterance_id":4864,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4865,"start_s":4866,"end_s":4867,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},820,"82449","Porque gran parte, digamos, yo escucho mucho a Amir Sater, ¿no?",2828.62,2831.92,{"idx":4869,"utterance_id":4870,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4871,"start_s":4872,"end_s":4873,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},821,"82450","Y hay mucha música que es específica de esta región.",2832.66,2834.94,{"idx":4875,"utterance_id":4876,"speaker_name":58,"text":127,"start_s":4877,"end_s":4878,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},822,"82451",2835.24,2835.5,{"idx":4880,"utterance_id":4881,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4882,"start_s":4883,"end_s":4884,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},823,"82452","Y nosotros aquí en la hacienda, intentamos hacer eso, intentamos rescatar esa 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mira, ya pasamos por tres biomas diferentes.",2863.72,2865.12,{"idx":4916,"utterance_id":4917,"speaker_name":58,"text":4918,"start_s":4919,"end_s":4920,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},829,"82458","entonces recorrimos mata ciliar, mata de galería y ahora estamos dentro del cerrado.",2865.16,2871.68,{"idx":4922,"utterance_id":4923,"speaker_name":58,"text":4924,"start_s":4925,"end_s":4926,"word_count":27,"indexable":14},830,"82459","aquí hay un termitero, eso es un termitero, es la misma termita que aparece en las casas allá y come muebles.",2872.36,2877.84,{"idx":4928,"utterance_id":4929,"speaker_name":58,"text":4930,"start_s":4931,"end_s":4932,"word_count":149,"indexable":14},831,"82460","son cerca de 18 especies diferentes de esa termita.",2877.9,2883.56,{"idx":4934,"utterance_id":4935,"speaker_name":58,"text":4936,"start_s":4937,"end_s":4938,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},832,"82461","ah sí, hay especies a montones, es una 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termita.",2907.72,2914.66,{"idx":4964,"utterance_id":4965,"speaker_name":58,"text":4966,"start_s":4967,"end_s":4968,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},837,"82466","¿No hay esas hormigas que van tras las termitas?",2914.98,2916.8,{"idx":4970,"utterance_id":4971,"speaker_name":58,"text":4972,"start_s":4973,"end_s":4974,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},838,"82467","También hay.",2917.38,2917.9,{"idx":4976,"utterance_id":4977,"speaker_name":58,"text":4978,"start_s":4979,"end_s":4980,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},839,"82468","Hay hormigas que son depredadoras.",2919.1,2920.06,{"idx":4982,"utterance_id":4983,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4984,"start_s":4985,"end_s":4986,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},840,"82469","Hay unas guerras.",2920.12,2920.7,{"idx":4988,"utterance_id":4989,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4990,"start_s":4991,"end_s":4992,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},841,"82470","Cuando era niño, una vez vi una guerra entre termitas y hormigas.",2921.02,2923.92,{"idx":4994,"utterance_id":4995,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4996,"start_s":4997,"end_s":4998,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},842,"82471","Sí. Va a ser una batalla medieval.",2924.46,2925.88,{"idx":5000,"utterance_id":5001,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5002,"start_s":5003,"end_s":5004,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},843,"82472","Pero, pobrecita, la termita no puede pelear con la hormiga.",2925.98,2928.62,{"idx":1703,"utterance_id":5006,"speaker_name":58,"text":2333,"start_s":5007,"end_s":5008,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},"82473",2928.7,2928.9,{"idx":5010,"utterance_id":5011,"speaker_name":58,"text":5012,"start_s":5013,"end_s":5014,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},845,"82474","La termita, es más para... Tanto es así que se protege, ¿no?",2929.18,2933.42,{"idx":5016,"utterance_id":5017,"speaker_name":58,"text":5018,"start_s":5019,"end_s":5020,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},846,"82475","Va a formar esas cáscaras ahí.",2933.72,2936.06,{"idx":5022,"utterance_id":5023,"speaker_name":58,"text":5024,"start_s":5025,"end_s":5026,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},847,"82476","Sólo se va a mover a través de pequeños túneles.",2936.6,2941.44,{"idx":5028,"utterance_id":5029,"speaker_name":58,"text":5030,"start_s":5031,"end_s":5032,"word_count":143,"indexable":14},848,"82477","Es así: tengo una experiencia que hago con mis visitantes, que les hago comer la termita.",2947.18,2954.42,{"idx":5034,"utterance_id":5035,"speaker_name":58,"text":5036,"start_s":5037,"end_s":5038,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},849,"82478","¿Ah, sí?",2955,2955.2,{"idx":5040,"utterance_id":5041,"speaker_name":58,"text":5042,"start_s":5043,"end_s":5044,"word_count":137,"indexable":14},850,"82479","Sí. Y es interesante que les hago... comer sin decirles qué sabor van a sentir.",2955.46,2962.76,{"idx":5046,"utterance_id":5047,"speaker_name":58,"text":5048,"start_s":5049,"end_s":5050,"word_count":137,"indexable":14},851,"82480","Entonces se lo ponen en la boca y el juego es que cada uno diga el sabor que está sintiendo.",2963.38,2968.94,{"idx":5052,"utterance_id":5053,"speaker_name":58,"text":5054,"start_s":5055,"end_s":5056,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},852,"82481","Y entonces hay un montón de conjeturas que hacen.",2970.12,2975.2,{"idx":5058,"utterance_id":5059,"speaker_name":58,"text":5060,"start_s":5061,"end_s":5062,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},853,"82482","Pero la termita en sí sabe a menta.",2975.3,2978.52,{"idx":5064,"utterance_id":5065,"speaker_name":58,"text":5066,"start_s":5067,"end_s":5068,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},854,"82483","Cuando la masticas, tienes la sensación de que estás masticando una planta de 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bajar.",2996.72,2999.26,{"idx":5100,"utterance_id":5101,"speaker_name":58,"text":5102,"start_s":5103,"end_s":5104,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},860,"82489","Pero quien pueda, puede bajar directamente.",3000.98,3003.72,{"idx":5106,"utterance_id":5107,"speaker_name":58,"text":5108,"start_s":5109,"end_s":5110,"word_count":179,"indexable":14},861,"82490","Cada uno marca cuál es su caballo y trata de llevarlo a un punto para dejar su caballo, así después será más fácil que me ayuden.",3004.18,3011.92,{"idx":5112,"utterance_id":5113,"speaker_name":58,"text":5114,"start_s":5115,"end_s":5116,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},862,"82491","Entonces mientras doña Carmen está preparando aquí nuestra... ¿Paçoca?",3012.24,3016.66,{"idx":5118,"utterance_id":5119,"speaker_name":58,"text":5120,"start_s":5121,"end_s":5122,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},863,"82492","Matula.",3016.82,3017.3,{"idx":5124,"utterance_id":5125,"speaker_name":58,"text":5126,"start_s":5127,"end_s":5128,"word_count":27,"indexable":14},864,"82493","Entonces les voy a hablar un poco del berrante, que es este instrumento de comunicación.",3019.14,3024.54,{"idx":5130,"utterance_id":5131,"speaker_name":58,"text":5132,"start_s":5133,"end_s":5134,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},865,"82494","Quien va a usar el berrante es el puntero de la tropa de ganado, en las comitivas.",3026.32,3031,{"idx":5136,"utterance_id":5137,"speaker_name":58,"text":5138,"start_s":5139,"end_s":5140,"word_count":131,"indexable":14},866,"82495","El tipo que es responsable del ritmo: si se va despacio, si se va a detener, cuánto tiempo va a detenerse.",3031.42,3037.88,{"idx":5142,"utterance_id":5143,"speaker_name":58,"text":5144,"start_s":5145,"end_s":5146,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},867,"82496","Quien va a tener esa función es el puntero.",3038.24,3040.36,{"idx":5148,"utterance_id":5149,"speaker_name":58,"text":5150,"start_s":5151,"end_s":5152,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},868,"82497","Entonces el puntero va a hacer uso del berrante.",3040.4,3043.94,{"idx":5154,"utterance_id":5155,"speaker_name":58,"text":5156,"start_s":5157,"end_s":5158,"word_count":27,"indexable":14},869,"82498","para comunicarse con el resto de los otros peones que forman parte de la comitiva.",3044.64,3050.4,{"idx":5160,"utterance_id":5161,"speaker_name":58,"text":5162,"start_s":5163,"end_s":5164,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},870,"82499","Entonces hay unos toques que todos ellos ya entenderán.",3051.08,3054.72,{"idx":5166,"utterance_id":5167,"speaker_name":58,"text":5168,"start_s":5169,"end_s":5170,"word_count":209,"indexable":14},871,"82500","Entonces este toque que voy a hacer aquí, ves que tiene, empieza con un toque largo, luego da un repiquito y después termina con ese toque largo.",3055.28,3077.6,{"idx":5172,"utterance_id":5173,"speaker_name":58,"text":5174,"start_s":5175,"end_s":5176,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},872,"82501","¿Qué significa?",3077.8,3078.46,{"idx":5178,"utterance_id":5179,"speaker_name":58,"text":5180,"start_s":5181,"end_s":5182,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},873,"82502","Por ejemplo, están todos ahí conversando, son la gente de la comitiva.",3078.56,3081.6,{"idx":5184,"utterance_id":5185,"speaker_name":58,"text":5186,"start_s":5187,"end_s":5188,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},874,"82503","Quieres que venga aquí para el asunto, estás llamando.",3081.64,3085,{"idx":5190,"utterance_id":5191,"speaker_name":58,"text":5192,"start_s":5193,"end_s":5194,"word_count":229,"indexable":14},875,"82504","para la faena, 'vamos aquí', porque a veces hay un peón allá con el caballo, otro está tomando tereré por allí, y el puntero ya quiere poner ritmo, entonces él va a tocar.",3086.06,3095,{"idx":5196,"utterance_id":5197,"speaker_name":58,"text":5198,"start_s":5199,"end_s":5200,"word_count":300,"indexable":14},876,"82505","Eso, está andando, la tropa de ganado está andando, el tipo va a pasar por esa carretera, el puente está caído, el puente está caído, otra vez los peones están allí, están un poco dispersos, entonces él va, hay una emergencia, entonces suena ese repique, el tipo ya va a quedarse...",3095.06,3119.9,{"idx":5202,"utterance_id":5203,"speaker_name":58,"text":5204,"start_s":5205,"end_s":5206,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},877,"82506","Atención 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vámonos'.",3155.82,3161.06,{"idx":5268,"utterance_id":5269,"speaker_name":58,"text":5270,"start_s":5271,"end_s":5272,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},888,"82517","Entonces dio un toque de alerta, dio otra señalecita y ahora vámonos.",3161.12,3165.42,{"idx":5274,"utterance_id":5275,"speaker_name":58,"text":2991,"start_s":5276,"end_s":5277,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},889,"82518",3166.72,3167.48,{"idx":5279,"utterance_id":5280,"speaker_name":58,"text":5281,"start_s":5282,"end_s":5283,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},890,"82519","Entonces no es solo que el tipo toque.",3167.98,3170.86,{"idx":5285,"utterance_id":5286,"speaker_name":58,"text":5287,"start_s":5288,"end_s":5289,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},891,"82520","¿Y qué pasa?",3170.94,3172.02,{"idx":5291,"utterance_id":5292,"speaker_name":58,"text":5293,"start_s":5294,"end_s":5295,"word_count":195,"indexable":14},892,"82521","Eso el tipo lo va haciendo todos los días, varias veces al día, porque el ganado anda, se detiene, deja que el ganado pastoree un poco, vuelve a poner ritmo, va parando.",3173.58,3182.82,{"idx":5297,"utterance_id":5298,"speaker_name":58,"text":5299,"start_s":5300,"end_s":5301,"word_count":253,"indexable":14},893,"82522","Pero llega un momento. Temprano por la mañana el tipo tocó el berrante, el ganado que está echado empieza a levantarse, el tipo dice, 'pues, el ganado ya sabe, el ganado entiende el toque'.",3183.36,3192.2,{"idx":5303,"utterance_id":5304,"speaker_name":58,"text":5305,"start_s":5306,"end_s":5307,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},894,"82523","No, es habituación.",3192.52,3194.02,{"idx":5309,"utterance_id":5310,"speaker_name":58,"text":5311,"start_s":5312,"end_s":5313,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},895,"82524","Lo que está haciendo, lo está haciendo, ¿no?",3194.22,3195.62,{"idx":5315,"utterance_id":5316,"speaker_name":58,"text":5317,"start_s":5318,"end_s":5319,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},896,"82525","Se va habituando.",3195.7,3197.42,{"idx":5321,"utterance_id":5322,"speaker_name":58,"text":5323,"start_s":5324,"end_s":5325,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},897,"82526","Es comunicación.",3199.48,3200.34,{"idx":5327,"utterance_id":5328,"speaker_name":58,"text":5329,"start_s":5330,"end_s":5331,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},898,"82527","Se está comunicando y el ganado se va a habituar.",3200.64,3202.7,{"idx":5333,"utterance_id":5334,"speaker_name":58,"text":5335,"start_s":5336,"end_s":5337,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},899,"82528","En consecuencia de eso, el ganado...",3202.78,3204.58,{"idx":5339,"utterance_id":5340,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5341,"start_s":5342,"end_s":5343,"word_count":27,"indexable":14},900,"82529","Entonces el propio ganado oye el toque, ya va a entender lo que vamos a hacer.",3204.62,3207.56,{"idx":5345,"utterance_id":5346,"speaker_name":58,"text":5347,"start_s":5348,"end_s":5349,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},901,"82530","Ya va a entender.",3207.6,3208.16,{"idx":5351,"utterance_id":5352,"speaker_name":58,"text":5353,"start_s":5354,"end_s":5355,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},902,"82531","Tipo... Fuerza de la expresión, fuerza del hábito es lo mismo.",3208.76,3214.5,{"idx":5357,"utterance_id":5358,"speaker_name":58,"text":5359,"start_s":5360,"end_s":5361,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},903,"82532","Se acostumbra a esa situación y luego funciona más o menos en automático.",3214.92,3219.3,{"idx":5363,"utterance_id":5364,"speaker_name":58,"text":5365,"start_s":5366,"end_s":5367,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},904,"82533","Y esos códigos que tú mencionaste, ¿son más o menos universales?",3219.36,3222.82,{"idx":5369,"utterance_id":5370,"speaker_name":58,"text":5371,"start_s":5372,"end_s":5373,"word_count":34,"indexable":14},905,"82534","Entonces, son... Es el código, por ejemplo, de los punteros de la tropa de ganado.",3223.64,3228.56,{"idx":5375,"utterance_id":5376,"speaker_name":58,"text":5377,"start_s":5378,"end_s":5379,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},906,"82535","El tipo tiene que saberlo.",3229.14,3229.82,{"idx":5381,"utterance_id":5382,"speaker_name":58,"text":5383,"start_s":5384,"end_s":5385,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},907,"82536","¿Pero es de esta región?",3229.86,3230.5,{"idx":5387,"utterance_id":5388,"speaker_name":58,"text":5389,"start_s":5390,"end_s":5391,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},908,"82537","Sí, de la región.",3230.96,3231.94,{"idx":5393,"utterance_id":5394,"speaker_name":58,"text":5395,"start_s":5396,"end_s":5397,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},909,"82538","El berrante, si te fijas, es casi un instrumento del pantanero, ¿no?",3232.34,3240.94,{"idx":5399,"utterance_id":5400,"speaker_name":58,"text":5401,"start_s":5402,"end_s":5403,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},910,"82539","Porque lo verás en la cultura de los peones pantaneros, ¿no?",3241.58,3244.88,{"idx":5405,"utterance_id":5406,"speaker_name":58,"text":5407,"start_s":5408,"end_s":5409,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},911,"82540","El tipo toca el berrante.",3244.92,3245.78,{"idx":5411,"utterance_id":5412,"speaker_name":58,"text":5413,"start_s":5414,"end_s":5415,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},912,"82541","No, el berrante no está en todo Brasil.",3245.82,3247.08,{"idx":5417,"utterance_id":5418,"speaker_name":58,"text":2333,"start_s":5419,"end_s":5420,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},913,"82542",3247.14,3247.34,{"idx":5422,"utterance_id":5423,"speaker_name":58,"text":5424,"start_s":5425,"end_s":5426,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},914,"82543","¿Y entonces qué pasa?",3247.74,3249.16,{"idx":5428,"utterance_id":5429,"speaker_name":58,"text":5430,"start_s":5431,"end_s":5432,"word_count":253,"indexable":14},915,"82544","Como es de aquí, entonces los toques, básicamente, que un peón usa en una comitiva y en otra, ya sabe lo que cada toque significa... A veces cambia de un puntero a otro.",3250.72,3264.02,{"idx":5434,"utterance_id":5435,"speaker_name":58,"text":5436,"start_s":5437,"end_s":5438,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},916,"82545","Cambia algo.",3264.08,3264.86,{"idx":5440,"utterance_id":5441,"speaker_name":58,"text":5442,"start_s":5443,"end_s":5444,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},917,"82546","El tipo de repique.",3264.92,3266.8,{"idx":1854,"utterance_id":5446,"speaker_name":58,"text":5447,"start_s":5448,"end_s":5449,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},"82547","El tipo hace alguna gracia con el berrante.",3267.14,3269.5,{"idx":1865,"utterance_id":5451,"speaker_name":58,"text":5452,"start_s":5453,"end_s":5454,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},"82548","Entonces hay gente que incluso consigue sacar sonidos de canciones conocidas con el berrante.",3269.82,3274.7,{"idx":5456,"utterance_id":5457,"speaker_name":58,"text":5458,"start_s":5459,"end_s":5460,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},920,"82549","Y todo es entrenamiento.",3276.06,3276.76,{"idx":5462,"utterance_id":5463,"speaker_name":58,"text":5464,"start_s":5465,"end_s":5466,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},921,"82550","Entonces, ¿se puede cambiar el tono?",3277.26,3279.82,{"idx":5468,"utterance_id":5469,"speaker_name":58,"text":5470,"start_s":5471,"end_s":5472,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},922,"82551","Por ejemplo, aquí.",3280.44,3282.98,{"idx":5474,"utterance_id":5475,"speaker_name":58,"text":5476,"start_s":5477,"end_s":5478,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},923,"82552","Tienes ese matiz, ¿no?",3292.24,3294.4,{"idx":5480,"utterance_id":5481,"speaker_name":58,"text":5482,"start_s":5483,"end_s":5484,"word_count":87,"indexable":14},924,"82553","De tener un sonido más suave, o uno más fuerte.",3294.68,3298.44,{"idx":5486,"utterance_id":5487,"speaker_name":58,"text":5488,"start_s":5489,"end_s":5490,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},925,"82554","Pero entonces, ¿qué vas a hacer?",3299.04,3300.44,{"idx":5492,"utterance_id":5493,"speaker_name":58,"text":5494,"start_s":5495,"end_s":5496,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},926,"82555","Lo vas a usar dentro de los toques, ¿no?",3300.48,3302.9,{"idx":5498,"utterance_id":5499,"speaker_name":58,"text":5500,"start_s":5501,"end_s":5502,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},927,"82556","Entonces vas creando ahí un...",3312.32,3314.72,{"idx":5504,"utterance_id":5505,"speaker_name":58,"text":5506,"start_s":5507,"end_s":5508,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},928,"82557","Haces una melodía, ¿no?",3315.36,3316.22,{"idx":5510,"utterance_id":5511,"speaker_name":58,"text":5512,"start_s":5513,"end_s":5514,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},929,"82558","Sí. Dentro de esos tonos ahí creas.",3317.38,3320.48,{"idx":5516,"utterance_id":5517,"speaker_name":58,"text":5518,"start_s":5519,"end_s":5520,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},930,"82559","Eso, ahí. Y entonces se come así, ¿no?",3321.3,3324.22,{"idx":5522,"utterance_id":5523,"speaker_name":58,"text":5524,"start_s":5525,"end_s":5526,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},931,"82560","Sí, cómelo ahí, mira.",3324.34,3326.52,{"idx":5528,"utterance_id":5529,"speaker_name":58,"text":5530,"start_s":5531,"end_s":5532,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},932,"82561","Es una carne seca que pones en el pilón con harina.",3326.56,3329.46,{"idx":5534,"utterance_id":5535,"speaker_name":58,"text":127,"start_s":5536,"end_s":5537,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},933,"82562",3329.62,3329.78,{"idx":5539,"utterance_id":5540,"speaker_name":58,"text":5541,"start_s":5542,"end_s":5543,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},934,"82563","Machacas la carne y luego cuando está desmenuzadita vas añadiendo la harina.",3330.24,3333.7,{"idx":5545,"utterance_id":5546,"speaker_name":58,"text":5547,"start_s":5548,"end_s":5549,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},935,"82564","Ah, este tereré está terminado.",3333.94,3335.62,{"idx":5551,"utterance_id":5552,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5553,"start_s":5554,"end_s":5555,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},936,"82565","Eso es otra comida que se encuentra en todo Brasil.",3335.78,3337.44,{"idx":5557,"utterance_id":5558,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5559,"start_s":5560,"end_s":5561,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},937,"82566","En el Nordeste sí.",3337.56,3338.32,{"idx":5563,"utterance_id":5564,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5565,"start_s":5566,"end_s":5567,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},938,"82567","Paçoca.",3338.36,3338.72,{"idx":5569,"utterance_id":5570,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5565,"start_s":5571,"end_s":5572,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},939,"82568",3338.76,3339.06,{"idx":5574,"utterance_id":5575,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5576,"start_s":5577,"end_s":5578,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},940,"82569","A montones.",3339.14,3339.68,{"idx":5580,"utterance_id":5581,"speaker_name":58,"text":5582,"start_s":5583,"end_s":5584,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},941,"82570","Todo el mundo la tiene.",3340.16,3341.1,{"idx":5586,"utterance_id":5587,"speaker_name":58,"text":5588,"start_s":5589,"end_s":5590,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},942,"82571","Es cultural en todos lados.",3341.62,3342.54,{"idx":5592,"utterance_id":5593,"speaker_name":58,"text":5594,"start_s":5595,"end_s":5596,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},943,"82572","De todos, hombre.",3342.58,3343.34,{"idx":5598,"utterance_id":5599,"speaker_name":58,"text":5600,"start_s":5601,"end_s":5602,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},944,"82573","Hombre, hay en Rio Grande do Sul.",3343.86,3344.82,{"idx":5604,"utterance_id":5605,"speaker_name":58,"text":835,"start_s":5606,"end_s":5606,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},945,"82574",3345.56,{"idx":5608,"utterance_id":5609,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5610,"start_s":5611,"end_s":5612,"word_count":120,"indexable":14},946,"82575","Es como, es una cosa... 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chimarrão.",3369.28,3370.44,{"idx":5673,"utterance_id":5674,"speaker_name":58,"text":5675,"start_s":5676,"end_s":5677,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},957,"82586","Hecha con esa partecita del cuellito de la calabaza.",3370.94,3374.4,{"idx":5679,"utterance_id":5680,"speaker_name":58,"text":5681,"start_s":5682,"end_s":5683,"word_count":80,"indexable":14},958,"82587","Y la guampa es guampa porque realmente lo es.",3375.16,3378.3,{"idx":5685,"utterance_id":5686,"speaker_name":58,"text":5687,"start_s":5688,"end_s":5689,"word_count":29,"indexable":14},959,"82588","No es cuerno.",3379.24,3379.92,{"idx":5691,"utterance_id":5692,"speaker_name":58,"text":5693,"start_s":5694,"end_s":5695,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},960,"82589","La gente dice, ah, es cuerno de 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bagual.",3424.9,3427.86,{"idx":5786,"utterance_id":5787,"speaker_name":58,"text":5788,"start_s":5789,"end_s":5790,"word_count":179,"indexable":14},976,"82605","Entonces tenía, para que se hagan una idea, esta guampa es parte de la mitad del cuerno que me dio el dueño, el ganadero, el dueño del buey.",3428.36,3436.98,{"idx":5792,"utterance_id":5793,"speaker_name":58,"text":5794,"start_s":5795,"end_s":5796,"word_count":215,"indexable":14},977,"82606","Entonces tenía otra parte que se quedó con él, esta que me dio a mí porque yo había atrapado el buey, y él tenía además esto de cuerno.",3437.42,3444.64,{"idx":5798,"utterance_id":5799,"speaker_name":58,"text":5800,"start_s":5801,"end_s":5802,"word_count":215,"indexable":14},978,"82607","Ahí, mira, puse la yerba aquí. Le doy una inclinadita de lado y entonces le hago esa inclinadita para que se vaya humedeciendo de abajo hacia arriba, ¿no?",3445.74,3455.94,{"idx":5804,"utterance_id":5805,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5806,"start_s":5807,"end_s":5808,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},979,"82608","¿Crees que el origen es común con el chimarrão o no?",3456.18,3458.62,{"idx":5810,"utterance_id":5811,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5812,"start_s":5813,"end_s":5814,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},980,"82609","¿Eso vino de los indígenas, no?",3459.82,3460.52,{"idx":5816,"utterance_id":5817,"speaker_name":58,"text":5818,"start_s":5819,"end_s":5820,"word_count":74,"indexable":14},981,"82610","En realidad, es... hay varias versiones de eso.",3461.06,3465.92,{"idx":5822,"utterance_id":5823,"speaker_name":58,"text":5824,"start_s":5825,"end_s":5826,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},982,"82611","Entonces, mira, la puse. 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Queda anudada a la bombilla.",3544.82,3548.44,{"idx":5948,"utterance_id":5949,"speaker_name":58,"text":4700,"start_s":5950,"end_s":5951,"word_count":22,"indexable":14},1003,"82632",3548.8,3549.02,{"idx":5953,"utterance_id":5954,"speaker_name":58,"text":5955,"start_s":5956,"end_s":5957,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},1004,"82633","Estoy en el campo.",3549.2,3549.88,{"idx":5959,"utterance_id":5960,"speaker_name":58,"text":5961,"start_s":5962,"end_s":5963,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},1005,"82634","Estoy allá en medio de la crecida, estoy sacando el ganado.",3550.28,3552.64,{"idx":5965,"utterance_id":5966,"speaker_name":58,"text":5967,"start_s":5968,"end_s":5969,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},1006,"82635","Pero no tengo tiempo de estar parando para tomar tereré.",3552.7,3554.9,{"idx":5971,"utterance_id":5972,"speaker_name":58,"text":5973,"start_s":5974,"end_s":5975,"word_count":167,"indexable":14},1007,"82636","Entonces desde arriba del caballo, mira. La voy a bajar dentro del agua del coricho, mira. Y ya tiene esa inclinacióncita.",3554.98,3561.86,{"idx":5977,"utterance_id":5978,"speaker_name":58,"text":5979,"start_s":5980,"end_s":5981,"word_count":54,"indexable":14},1008,"82637","Si se llenó, la tiro hacia arriba del caballo.",3561.94,3564,{"idx":5983,"utterance_id":5984,"speaker_name":58,"text":5985,"start_s":5986,"end_s":5987,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},1009,"82638","Y voy a tomar el tereré.",3564.72,3565.68,{"idx":5989,"utterance_id":5990,"speaker_name":58,"text":5991,"start_s":5992,"end_s":5993,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},1010,"82639","Entonces me bajo allá.",3566.2,3567.18,{"idx":5995,"utterance_id":5996,"speaker_name":58,"text":5997,"start_s":5998,"end_s":5999,"word_count":56,"indexable":14},1011,"82640","Ya toma el agua del río.",3567.24,3569.02,{"idx":6001,"utterance_id":6002,"speaker_name":58,"text":6003,"start_s":6004,"end_s":6005,"word_count":209,"indexable":14},1012,"82641","Le doy una abanadita así, mira. Como ya es un filtro, puedo coger agua del coricho, llenar y voy a tomar mi tereré andando mientras el caballo camina.",3569.06,3579.9,{"idx":6007,"utterance_id":6008,"speaker_name":58,"text":6009,"start_s":6010,"end_s":6011,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},1013,"82642","Por eso tiene la cuerdecita.",3579.96,3581.56,{"idx":6013,"utterance_id":6014,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":6015,"start_s":6016,"end_s":6017,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},1014,"82643","Pero el tipo ya tiene que tener mucha habilidad, ¿no?",3581.96,3583.72,{"idx":6019,"utterance_id":6020,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":6021,"start_s":6022,"end_s":6023,"word_count":85,"indexable":14},1015,"82644","El tipo sólo puso la cosa y nunca falla con la bombilla.",3583.78,3586.18,{"idx":6025,"utterance_id":6026,"speaker_name":58,"text":6027,"start_s":6028,"end_s":6029,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},1016,"82645","Nunca falla la bombilla porque queda anudada aquí, mira. 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