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Mariana.",175.08,177.98,"politica-ambiental","Política ambiental","6cce70bf-b609-43af-81b5-ae7ca107d572","fortalecer la fiscalización y la responsabilización por delitos ambientales","Menciona Brumadinho y Mariana como hechos, sin proponer una medida concreta en esta intervención.",{"idx":447,"utterance_id":448,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":449,"start_s":450,"end_s":451,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},41,"153772","Y entonces hay una indemnización que entra en la caja.",178.58,180.74,{"idx":453,"utterance_id":454,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":455,"start_s":456,"end_s":457,"word_count":233,"topic_slug":385,"topic_label":386,"target_id":387,"target_proposition":388,"stance":266,"stance_confidence":404,"rationale":458,"indexable":269},42,"153773","Pero esa indemnización no es para toda la vida.",181.48,183.06,"Afirma que la indemnización entra por periodos, describiendo la limitación de 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bien.",201.46,203.34,{"idx":498,"utterance_id":499,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":500,"start_s":501,"end_s":502,"word_count":333,"indexable":181},49,"153780","Paga a sus funcionarios a tiempo, hace alguna que otra inversión menor aquí y allá y mucho dinero en propaganda para decir que todo está bien.",204.1,212.94,{"idx":504,"utterance_id":505,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":506,"start_s":507,"end_s":508,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},50,"153781","No está bien.",213.08,213.72,{"idx":510,"utterance_id":511,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":512,"start_s":513,"end_s":514,"word_count":294,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":515,"target_proposition":516,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":517,"indexable":269},51,"153782","Y quien esté dispuesto a disputar esta elección tiene que ser muy honesto con el elector.",214.86,219.92,"0e15a1e5-df90-4b17-890f-ebe3bb592f24","rendir cuentas transparentes sobre las finanzas públicas al electorado","Afirma que quien disputa una elección tiene que ser honesto con el elector.",{"idx":519,"utterance_id":520,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":521,"start_s":522,"end_s":523,"word_count":244,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":515,"target_proposition":516,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":524,"indexable":269},52,"153783","Quiero ser honesto con el elector de Minas Gerais y no solo.",220.26,223.1,"Declara 'quero ser honesto com o eleitor', reivindicando transparencia personal.",{"idx":526,"utterance_id":527,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":528,"start_s":529,"end_s":530,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},53,"153784","también ser 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Ser más moderado, por así decirlo.",233.26,236.68,{"idx":553,"utterance_id":554,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":555,"start_s":556,"end_s":557,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},57,"153788","Es una postura diferente a la de Gabriel, presidente de la Cámara Municipal.",236.7,239.52,{"idx":559,"utterance_id":560,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":561,"start_s":562,"end_s":563,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},58,"153789","Ustedes tienen que decidirse, Ana, Silvia, a quién prefieren.",239.54,244.34,{"idx":565,"utterance_id":566,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":567,"start_s":568,"end_s":569,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},59,"153790","Especialmente la prensa.",244.94,245.86,{"idx":571,"utterance_id":572,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":573,"start_s":574,"end_s":575,"word_count":317,"indexable":181},60,"153791","Cuando aceleraba en lo ácido, en la ironía, incluso en el humor, que sí son características que aprecio, los titulares eran 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70.",394.1,395.38,{"idx":801,"utterance_id":802,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":803,"start_s":804,"end_s":805,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},98,"153829","Y tendrá en el futuro 50, 40, 30.",396.5,398.86,{"idx":807,"utterance_id":808,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":809,"start_s":810,"end_s":811,"word_count":526,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":777,"target_proposition":778,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":812,"indexable":269},99,"153830","O tienes una conversación seria con el conjunto de municipios de esa región para decir: mira, vamos a necesitar aglutinar a todos esos estudiantes en una sola escuela, o voy a seguir pagando una parte del presupuesto para un número más reducido de alumnos; ¿y cómo voy a mejorar el salario del profesor así?",399.26,415.68,"Propone aglutinar estudiantes en escuelas para optimizar recursos y mejorar el 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Gobierno","852ea2df-de23-4e6b-87f6-3ce81a839140","presentar un plan de gobierno con metas, indicadores y acciones detalladas","Exige que el plan de gobierno registre datos, indicadores y acciones concretas.",{"idx":885,"utterance_id":886,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":887,"start_s":888,"end_s":889,"word_count":305,"indexable":181},111,"153842","Que, en general, la gente pone cosas genéricas, que no fue lo que yo hice como candidato a alcalde.",448.16,453.56,{"idx":891,"utterance_id":892,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":893,"start_s":894,"end_s":895,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},112,"153843","Datos, indicadores, procesos, inspiraciones, quién ya lo hizo, qué puede cambiar.",454.18,458.2,{"idx":897,"utterance_id":898,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":899,"start_s":900,"end_s":901,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},113,"153844","Este es un problema que tenemos que 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mayores.",{"idx":920,"utterance_id":921,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":922,"start_s":923,"end_s":924,"word_count":305,"indexable":181},116,"153847","Y de la misma manera que tengo menos niños entrando en la escuela, tengo más personas mayores que necesitan cuidados.",466.86,472.76,{"idx":926,"utterance_id":927,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":928,"start_s":929,"end_s":930,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},117,"153848","Ana, ¿cuántas personas, Silvia, conocen ustedes que tienen el presupuesto ajustado?",473.34,476.78,{"idx":932,"utterance_id":933,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":934,"start_s":935,"end_s":936,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},118,"153849","Porque hay que comprar una cama para la persona mayor.",477,478.52,{"idx":938,"utterance_id":939,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":940,"start_s":941,"end_s":942,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},119,"153850","Porque hay que pagar a un 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Mira, qué bueno que cuento con esos alumnos ahí.",516,524.06,{"idx":1034,"utterance_id":1035,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1036,"start_s":1037,"end_s":1038,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},135,"153866","Ellos me hacen un mejor profesor.",524.2,525.76,{"idx":1040,"utterance_id":1041,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1042,"start_s":1043,"end_s":1044,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},136,"153867","Para toda la clase.",525.96,526.8,{"idx":1046,"utterance_id":1047,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1048,"start_s":1049,"end_s":1050,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},137,"153868","Porque no es que me especialice para tratar con ellos.",528.08,531.08,{"idx":1052,"utterance_id":1053,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1054,"start_s":1055,"end_s":1056,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},138,"153869","Cambio mi postura de profesor para un nuevo tipo de clase.",531.5,534.02,{"idx":51,"utterance_id":1058,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1059,"start_s":1060,"end_s":1061,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},"153870","Porque no puedo cuidar solo a los alumnos con TEA.",534.24,536.4,{"idx":1063,"utterance_id":1064,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1065,"start_s":1066,"end_s":1067,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},140,"153871","Tengo que enseñar a todos los alumnos que están en la clase a tratar y cuidar de ellos también.",536.66,541.2,{"idx":1069,"utterance_id":1070,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1071,"start_s":1072,"end_s":1073,"word_count":305,"indexable":181},141,"153872","Tengo una clase muy querida de la facultad de derecho que tenía un alumno y una alumna con TEA.",542.1,546.74,{"idx":1075,"utterance_id":1076,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1077,"start_s":1078,"end_s":1079,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},142,"153873","Y se enamoraron y empezaron a salir en la 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ayer.",589.26,594.88,{"idx":1135,"utterance_id":1136,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1137,"start_s":1138,"end_s":1139,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},152,"153883","La próxima semana todo el mundo ya lo ha olvidado y ya es otra cosa.",595.08,596.76,{"idx":1141,"utterance_id":1142,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1143,"start_s":1144,"end_s":1145,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},153,"153884","La educación sigue teniendo un problema.",597.3,598.64,{"idx":1147,"utterance_id":1148,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1149,"start_s":1150,"end_s":1151,"word_count":311,"indexable":181},154,"153885","Entonces tenemos que reforzar que, en un proceso electoral, lo que es fundamental es poner las ideas en el 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ferrocarril es un sueño de Minas Gerais y recuerda que la red fue desmantelada.",{"idx":1732,"utterance_id":1733,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1734,"start_s":1735,"end_s":1736,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},251,"153982","Además, ya tuvimos esa realidad.",942.06,943.72,{"idx":1738,"utterance_id":1739,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1740,"start_s":1741,"end_s":1742,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},252,"153983","Hasta los años 80 había más de 20 líneas.",943.9,945.76,{"idx":1744,"utterance_id":1745,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1746,"start_s":1747,"end_s":1748,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},253,"153984","Esa estructuración ya existía y fue siendo desmantelada.",946.76,949.98,{"idx":1750,"utterance_id":1751,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1752,"start_s":1753,"end_s":1754,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":266,"stance_confidence":779,"rationale":1759,"indexable":181},254,"153985","¿Sabías que hay 20 mil millones disponibles para la construcción de ferrocarriles en Minas Gerais debido a contrapartidas de minería en Brasilia?",950,958.64,"infraestrutura-e-saneamento","Infraestructura y saneamiento","1b3c3830-d278-4bcd-8621-f6ffb491e766","ejecutar obras de infraestructura de transporte en Minas Gerais","Informa la existencia de R$20 mil millones disponibles para la construcción de ferrocarriles.",{"idx":1761,"utterance_id":1762,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1763,"start_s":1764,"end_s":1765,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},255,"153986","¿parado?",958.96,959.34,{"idx":1767,"utterance_id":1768,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1769,"start_s":1770,"end_s":1771,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},256,"153987","¿Pero es posible hacerlo?",959.66,960.88,{"idx":1773,"utterance_id":1774,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1775,"start_s":1776,"end_s":1777,"word_count":254,"indexable":181},257,"153988","Porque tenemos los fondos, pero cuando se pone la obra en sí, ¿es posible hacerla?",961.3,965.24,{"idx":1779,"utterance_id":1780,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1781,"start_s":1782,"end_s":1783,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":1784,"indexable":269},258,"153989","Es muy posible y te doy caminos.",965.26,966.82,"afirma 'é muito possível' y se compromete a indicar caminos.",{"idx":1786,"utterance_id":1787,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1788,"start_s":1789,"end_s":1790,"word_count":221,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":266,"stance_confidence":779,"rationale":1791,"indexable":181},259,"153990","Porque ya estoy yendo a VLI.",967.72,969.6,"relata que ya ha ido a empresas como VLI para tratar el tema.",{"idx":1793,"utterance_id":1794,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1795,"start_s":1796,"end_s":1797,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},260,"153991","en Vale, en varias otras mineras.",970.66,972.98,{"idx":1799,"utterance_id":1800,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1801,"start_s":1802,"end_s":1803,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},261,"153992","Cuando hablas con ellas, ¿sabes por qué no lo hacemos?",973.5,976.2,{"idx":1805,"utterance_id":1806,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1807,"start_s":1808,"end_s":1809,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":1810,"rationale":1811,"indexable":269},262,"153993","Porque el gobierno no les muestra ningún interés.",976.74,978.6,0.82,"critica la falta de interés del gobierno y defiende la articulación con privados.",{"idx":1813,"utterance_id":1814,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1815,"start_s":1816,"end_s":1817,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},263,"153994","Ningún interés.",979.72,980.26,{"idx":1819,"utterance_id":1820,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1821,"start_s":1822,"end_s":1823,"word_count":317,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":291,"rationale":1824,"indexable":269},264,"153995","Porque es un proceso que necesita de la iniciativa privada, del gobierno estatal, del gobierno federal, a todo el mundo en la mesa conversando en serio.",980.28,988.58,"pide la participación de la iniciativa privada, del gobierno estatal y federal 'na mesa'.",{"idx":1826,"utterance_id":1827,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1828,"start_s":1829,"end_s":1830,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},265,"153996","Te daré un ejemplo que tenemos que hacer con urgencia.",989.22,991.58,{"idx":1832,"utterance_id":1833,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1834,"start_s":1835,"end_s":1836,"word_count":547,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":1837,"indexable":269},266,"153997","Si tomo minerales del Triángulo para fertilizar las tierras del Noroeste Mineiro, y construyo un ferrocarril que vaya de Pirapora, ciudad de mi padre, en las riberas del São Francisco, hasta Paracatu y más allá, pudiendo incluso llegar a la parte de Goiás y unir los ferrocarriles por allí, creo un nuevo corredor agropecuario para Minas Gerais.",992.32,1015.04,"propone un trazado ferroviario para crear un nuevo corredor agropecuario.",{"idx":1839,"utterance_id":1840,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1841,"start_s":1842,"end_s":1843,"word_count":271,"topic_slug":1844,"topic_label":1845,"target_id":1846,"target_proposition":1847,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":1810,"rationale":1848,"indexable":269},267,"153998","Si haces eso, estoy creando empleo, frontera agropecuaria, industria, tecnología, exportación, dinero.",1017.06,1024.3,"desenvolvimento-economico","Desarrollo económico","f79776e9-9350-4044-bfed-529ca5ec12a4","generar empleo y desarrollo mediante la construcción de infraestructura ferroviaria","argumenta que el ferrocarril generaría empleos, industria e ingresos para Minas.",{"idx":1850,"utterance_id":1851,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1852,"start_s":1853,"end_s":1854,"word_count":242,"indexable":181},268,"153999","Estoy resolviendo parte de la caja de Minas, porque cuando generamos más producción.",1024.68,1028.26,{"idx":1856,"utterance_id":1857,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1858,"start_s":1859,"end_s":1860,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},269,"154000","Generamos más caja.",1029.16,1030.18,{"idx":1862,"utterance_id":1863,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1864,"start_s":1865,"end_s":1866,"word_count":254,"indexable":181},270,"154001","Hoy, si vas a hacer un estudio que diga: ¿vale la pena construir allí un ferrocarril?",1031.02,1035.02,{"idx":1868,"utterance_id":1869,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1870,"start_s":1871,"end_s":1872,"word_count":202,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":266,"stance_confidence":267,"rationale":1873,"indexable":181},271,"154002","La respuesta es no.",1035.52,1036.08,"relata que, hoy, un estudio diría que no vale la pena construir allí.",{"idx":1875,"utterance_id":1876,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1877,"start_s":1878,"end_s":1879,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},272,"154003","Porque no se ve lo que puede ser.",1036.84,1038.82,{"idx":1881,"utterance_id":1882,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1883,"start_s":1884,"end_s":1885,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},273,"154004","Se ve lo que hay.",1039.08,1039.58,{"idx":1887,"utterance_id":1888,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1889,"start_s":1890,"end_s":1891,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},274,"154005","Pero puedo tomar otros dos ejemplos donde ya se ve lo que hay.",1040.14,1042.84,{"idx":1893,"utterance_id":1894,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1895,"start_s":1896,"end_s":1897,"word_count":244,"topic_slug":1898,"topic_label":1899,"target_id":1900,"target_proposition":1901,"stance":266,"stance_confidence":779,"rationale":1902,"indexable":181},275,"154006","El café de Guaxupé, para llegar al puerto, va en camión.",1043.5,1047.8,"mobilidade-urbana-e-logistica","Movilidad urbana y logística","6e080335-14ad-4158-9634-6aaf0fa7dc0d","construir y expandir ferrocarriles para el transporte de carga","describe que el café de Guaxupé sale por camión hasta el puerto, problema logístico.",{"idx":1904,"utterance_id":1905,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1906,"start_s":1907,"end_s":1908,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},276,"154007","Todo allí recorre, sudimenta ese camión.",1049.18,1052.14,{"idx":1910,"utterance_id":1911,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1912,"start_s":1913,"end_s":1914,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},277,"154008","Está lejos.",1052.22,1052.56,{"idx":1916,"utterance_id":1917,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1912,"start_s":1918,"end_s":1919,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},278,"154009",1052.76,1053.36,{"idx":1921,"utterance_id":1922,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1923,"start_s":1924,"end_s":1925,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},279,"154010","Encarece el café.",1053.62,1054.66,{"idx":1927,"utterance_id":1928,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1929,"start_s":1930,"end_s":1931,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},280,"154011","Perjudica la vida del productor de Minas.",1055.14,1057.12,{"idx":1933,"utterance_id":1934,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1935,"start_s":1936,"end_s":1937,"word_count":317,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":1938,"indexable":269},281,"154012","Con la coxa el pie, con la cooperativa, con rutas industriales, con la minera, trazas esto y dices, vamos a hacerlo.",1057.8,1065.14,"propone articular cooperativas, mineros y rutas industriales para realizar obras.",{"idx":1940,"utterance_id":1941,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1942,"start_s":1943,"end_s":1944,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},282,"154013","Triángulo, yo salgo allí, de la parte alta del triángulo, pasando por Araguari, ciudad de mi madre, se juntó.",1066,1074.78,{"idx":1946,"utterance_id":1947,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1948,"start_s":1949,"end_s":1950,"word_count":376,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":1951,"indexable":269},283,"154014","Y yo puedo y voy a hacer eso, mostrando, como hice mucho en la campaña de Belo Horizonte, dónde están esos trazados, cuánto cuestan, de dónde viene ese dinero.",1075.26,1084.16,"promete 'eu posso e vou fazer isso', presentando trazados y costos.",{"idx":1953,"utterance_id":1954,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1955,"start_s":1956,"end_s":1957,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},284,"154015","¿Qué minera puede ayudar a hacerlo?",1084.7,1086.98,{"idx":1959,"utterance_id":1960,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1961,"start_s":1962,"end_s":1963,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},285,"154016","Porque hoy las líneas son prácticamente operadas por ellas.",1087.3,1090.54,{"idx":1965,"utterance_id":1966,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1967,"start_s":1968,"end_s":1969,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},286,"154017","A su antojo.",1091.68,1092.26,{"idx":1971,"utterance_id":1972,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1973,"start_s":1974,"end_s":1975,"word_count":215,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":1810,"rationale":1976,"indexable":181},287,"154018","Con poca participación del gobierno estatal.",1092.92,1094.58,"critica la escasa participación del gobierno estatal en las líneas ferroviarias.",{"idx":1978,"utterance_id":1979,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1980,"start_s":1981,"end_s":1982,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1983,"target_proposition":1984,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":404,"rationale":1985,"indexable":269},288,"154019","Candidato a gobernador, precandidato, tiene que leer el informe de la Asamblea, de la Comisión de Ferrocarriles, que tuvo a João Leite como presidente.",1095.84,1102.78,"872f7ba9-f455-423e-aa56-832b8e90027f","usar informes y comisiones de la Asamblea para planificar políticas ferroviarias","afirma que los precandidatos deben leer el informe de la Comisión de Ferrocarriles.",{"idx":1987,"utterance_id":1988,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1989,"start_s":1990,"end_s":1991,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},289,"154020","Siempre digo que me gusta dar el mérito.",1103.38,1104.94,{"idx":1993,"utterance_id":1994,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1995,"start_s":1996,"end_s":1997,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},290,"154021","Es brillante.",1105.26,1105.98,{"idx":1999,"utterance_id":2000,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2001,"start_s":2002,"end_s":2003,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},291,"154022","Está todo ahí trazado.",1106.42,1107.52,{"idx":29,"utterance_id":2005,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2006,"start_s":2007,"end_s":2008,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},"154023","Dónde puede ser, dónde puede construirse.",1107.98,1109.64,{"idx":2010,"utterance_id":2011,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2012,"start_s":2013,"end_s":2014,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":2015,"topic_label":2016,"target_id":2017,"target_proposition":2018,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":404,"rationale":2019,"indexable":269},293,"154024","La Asamblea tiene que ser valorada en esos momentos.",1110,1111.92,"poder-legislativo-governabilidade","Poder Legislativo \u002F Gobernabilidad","54acc5bb-db4a-481c-bc5f-7fac125ec909","valorar y utilizar informes de comisiones de la Asamblea en la formulación de políticas estatales","dice que la Asamblea debe ser valorada en esas decisiones.",{"idx":2021,"utterance_id":2022,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2023,"start_s":2024,"end_s":2025,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},294,"154025","No es solo en la votación de proyectos.",1112.34,1113.62,{"idx":2027,"utterance_id":2028,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2029,"start_s":2030,"end_s":2031,"word_count":305,"indexable":181},295,"154026","Comisiones, ahí ayuda haber sido concejal, comisiones temáticas, comisiones permanentes que debaten con la sociedad, te ofrecen informes.",1113.66,1120.6,{"idx":2033,"utterance_id":2034,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2035,"start_s":2036,"end_s":2037,"word_count":202,"topic_slug":2015,"topic_label":2016,"target_id":2017,"target_proposition":2018,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":267,"rationale":2038,"indexable":181},296,"154027","Muy poco leemos.",1121,1122.14,"critica que se lee poco y defiende un mayor aprovechamiento de los informes.",{"idx":2040,"utterance_id":2041,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2042,"start_s":2043,"end_s":2044,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},297,"154028","Tengo un defecto gravísimo.",1122.48,1123.68,{"idx":2046,"utterance_id":2047,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2048,"start_s":2049,"end_s":2050,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},298,"154029","Leo mucho, todo, todo el tiempo.",1123.92,1126.36,{"idx":2052,"utterance_id":2053,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2054,"start_s":2055,"end_s":2056,"word_count":311,"indexable":181},299,"154030","Cuando lees ese documento dices, uy, aquí puede haber un trazado, aquí puede haber un trazado.",1126.84,1129.98,{"idx":2058,"utterance_id":2059,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2060,"start_s":2061,"end_s":2062,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":1755,"topic_label":1756,"target_id":1757,"target_proposition":1758,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":2063,"indexable":269},300,"154031","Entonces, te señalo, y voy a mostrar eso a lo largo de la precampaña y de la campaña, al menos 10 ferrocarriles estructurales que podemos hacer.",1130,1138.04,"promete presentar al menos 10 ferrocarriles estructurales en la precampaña.",{"idx":2065,"utterance_id":2066,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2067,"start_s":2068,"end_s":2069,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},301,"154032","¿Y además, eh?",1138.1,1138.56,{"idx":2071,"utterance_id":2072,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2073,"start_s":2074,"end_s":2075,"word_count":317,"topic_slug":2076,"topic_label":2077,"target_id":2078,"target_proposition":2079,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":2080,"indexable":269},302,"154033","En la región metropolitana, utilizando rieles que están abandonados, creo un sistema de transporte metropolitano, que conecta Contagem, Betim, Sabará, Pedro.",1139.14,1151.62,"transporte-publico","Transporte Público","b20cbd40-cd4e-40e5-b6ad-064d42670577","crear un sistema de transporte metropolitano reutilizando vías férreas abandonadas en la región metropolitana de Belo Horizonte","propone usar vías férreas abandonadas para integrar Contagem, Betim, Sabará y otras ciudades.",{"idx":34,"utterance_id":2082,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2083,"start_s":2084,"end_s":2085,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},"154034","Es decir, puedes unir y descongestionar mucho el tráfico que fluye de la región metropolitana hacia acá.",1151.86,1157.14,{"idx":2087,"utterance_id":2088,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2089,"start_s":2090,"end_s":2091,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},304,"154035","Otra idea, obsesión.",1157.8,1158.94,{"idx":2093,"utterance_id":2094,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2095,"start_s":2096,"end_s":2097,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},305,"154036","Tuve una reunión con el gobernador Romeu Zema, mientras era presidente de la Cámara.",1159.36,1163.42,{"idx":2099,"utterance_id":2100,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2101,"start_s":2102,"end_s":2103,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},306,"154037","Mis reuniones siempre se basan en ideas.",1163.94,1165.72,{"idx":2105,"utterance_id":2106,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2107,"start_s":2108,"end_s":2109,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},307,"154038","¿Qué quieres, Gabriel?",1166.38,1167.38,{"idx":2111,"utterance_id":2112,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2113,"start_s":2114,"end_s":2115,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},308,"154039","Dos cosas, gobernador.",1167.58,1168.58,{"idx":2117,"utterance_id":2118,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2119,"start_s":2120,"end_s":2121,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":2076,"topic_label":2077,"target_id":2122,"target_proposition":2123,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":284,"rationale":2124,"indexable":269},309,"154040","Primero, no tiene sentido que Minas Gerais no tenga integración 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Pampulha.",1192.36,1194.6,"75816dbf-76e4-4ce6-880f-cebb0b0e0fc6","proteger y recuperar el medio ambiente del estado","señala 'limpeza da Lagoa da Pampulha' como prioridad.",{"idx":2171,"utterance_id":2172,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2173,"start_s":2174,"end_s":2175,"word_count":354,"topic_slug":441,"topic_label":442,"target_id":2167,"target_proposition":2168,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":291,"rationale":2176,"indexable":269},317,"154048","Necesita del gobierno estatal, de la Copasa, necesita atención social para conectar, diálogo con la prefeitura de Contagem, para que aquellas viviendas que aún vierten aguas residuales sean conectadas.",1195.4,1205.76,"detalla la necesidad del Estado, Copasa y diálogo con los municipios.",{"idx":2178,"utterance_id":2179,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2180,"start_s":2181,"end_s":2182,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},318,"154049","¿Qué vi?",1206.2,1206.64,{"idx":2184,"utterance_id":2185,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2186,"start_s":2187,"end_s":2188,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},319,"154050","Una disputa por quién pone el barco primero en la laguna.",1206.76,1208.98,{"idx":2190,"utterance_id":2191,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2192,"start_s":2193,"end_s":2194,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},320,"154051","Usted convirtió en un mito algo de esta capital.",1209,1213.5,{"idx":2196,"utterance_id":2197,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2198,"start_s":2199,"end_s":2200,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},321,"154052","Un mito y un meme.",1213.52,1214.16,{"idx":2202,"utterance_id":2203,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2204,"start_s":2205,"end_s":2206,"word_count":254,"topic_slug":441,"topic_label":442,"target_id":2167,"target_proposition":2168,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":2207,"indexable":269},322,"154053","La Pampulha necesita otra visión que una a la prefeitura, al gobierno del estado y al gobierno federal.",1214.68,1219.94,"pide una visión integrada entre la municipalidad, el estado y el gobierno federal para Pampulha.",{"idx":2209,"utterance_id":2210,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2211,"start_s":2212,"end_s":2213,"word_count":271,"topic_slug":2214,"topic_label":2215,"target_id":2216,"target_proposition":2217,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":2218,"indexable":269},323,"154054","Tengo allí un museo cerrado desde hace años, con una reforma que no avanza.",1220.24,1223.92,"cultura","Cultura","4526cc3c-e15e-477a-8e68-5df2a597cc89","reformar y reabrir museos y espacios culturales de la Pampulha","denuncia museo cerrado y reforma paralizada en la Pampulha.",{"idx":2220,"utterance_id":2221,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2222,"start_s":2223,"end_s":2224,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},324,"154055","Tengo un espejo de agua sucio, una orilla poco aprovechada, una casa del barrio abandonada.",1224.48,1229.92,{"idx":2226,"utterance_id":2227,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2228,"start_s":2229,"end_s":2230,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},325,"154056","Pero hay un barquito.",1229.96,1230.64,{"idx":2232,"utterance_id":2233,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2234,"start_s":2235,"end_s":2236,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},326,"154057","Prefiero no comentar.",1231.98,1232.9,{"idx":2238,"utterance_id":2239,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2240,"start_s":2241,"end_s":2242,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},327,"154058","Y ni siquiera navegar.",1233.5,1235.38,{"idx":2244,"utterance_id":2245,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2246,"start_s":2247,"end_s":2248,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},328,"154059","Podemos mucho más que 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apadrinado partidario que quiere ser candidato.",1245.52,1250.5,"ac5fe3a5-1459-4e94-af0b-28d283ea6847","nombrar gestores técnicos y calificados para cargos de gestión del turismo","critica el clientelismo y exige gente que entienda del asunto.",{"idx":2270,"utterance_id":2271,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2272,"start_s":2273,"end_s":2274,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},331,"154062","Ese no es el lugar de una secretaria de turismo.",1251.12,1252.82,{"idx":2276,"utterance_id":2277,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2278,"start_s":2279,"end_s":2280,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},332,"154063","Es lugar para poner a gente que realmente entienda del tema.",1253.48,1255.98,{"idx":2282,"utterance_id":2283,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2284,"start_s":2285,"end_s":2286,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},333,"154064","No sirve de nada cantar en verso y en prosa que Inhotim es un buen destino internacional reconocido por 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parecidas.",1314.06,1315.7,{"idx":2399,"utterance_id":2400,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2401,"start_s":2402,"end_s":2403,"word_count":317,"indexable":181},352,"154083","Él le cuenta a todo el mundo que se inspiró mucho en mi actuación como concejal para implementar la tarifa cero en la ciudad.",1316.28,1321.82,{"idx":2405,"utterance_id":2406,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2407,"start_s":2408,"end_s":2409,"word_count":333,"indexable":181},353,"154084","Y él es un guerrero que trabaja y apuesta por esa ciudad desde hace tiempo, queriendo llamar la atención de que Brumadinho es mucho más que Inhotim.",1322.44,1329.08,{"idx":2411,"utterance_id":2412,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2413,"start_s":2414,"end_s":2415,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},354,"154085","Entonces traigo esta cuestión del 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Estuve recientemente en Japón, el cuadernito está repleto.",1451.02,1454.5,{"idx":2602,"utterance_id":2603,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2604,"start_s":2605,"end_s":2606,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},385,"154116","En Australia, y traigo aquí otro ejemplo, la gente generalmente va a Sídney.",1455.32,1460.26,{"idx":2608,"utterance_id":2609,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2610,"start_s":2611,"end_s":2612,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":2613,"topic_label":2614,"target_id":2615,"target_proposition":2616,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":2617,"indexable":269},386,"154117","Fui a una ciudad llamada Perth, en Australia Occidental, donde traje una de las principales ideas que quiero implementar en Minas Gerais, que es un fondo para nuestra minería.",1460.88,1469.62,"politica-de-mineracao","Política de Minería","9d4cc14c-42e9-45e1-8fcd-f31226b0d4df","crear fondos de desarrollo local con ingresos de la minería","presenta el modelo de Australia de un fondo ligado a la minería como propuesta.",{"idx":2619,"utterance_id":2620,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2621,"start_s":2622,"end_s":2623,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},387,"154118","¿Qué hizo Australia Occidental?",1469.94,1471.36,{"idx":2625,"utterance_id":2626,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2627,"start_s":2628,"end_s":2629,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},388,"154119","Había una parte de Australia pobre, muy afectada por la minería, que extraía el mineral y dejaba la ciudad abandonada.",1471.38,1480.66,{"idx":2631,"utterance_id":2632,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2633,"start_s":2634,"end_s":2635,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},389,"154120","Y crearon un fondo vinculado al proceso de minería con usos específicos.",1481.24,1485.5,{"idx":2637,"utterance_id":2638,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2639,"start_s":2640,"end_s":2641,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},390,"154121","Fondo para hacer ferrovías, fondo para cuidar de la educación.",1486.04,1488.98,{"idx":2643,"utterance_id":2644,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2645,"start_s":2646,"end_s":2647,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},391,"154122","¿Y qué es un fondo?",1489.04,1489.7,{"idx":2649,"utterance_id":2650,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2651,"start_s":2652,"end_s":2653,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},392,"154123","Un fondo es juntar dinero y gastar.",1489.76,1491.02,{"idx":2655,"utterance_id":2656,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2657,"start_s":2658,"end_s":2659,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},393,"154124","Un fondo es juntar dinero, tener dividendos y ganancias de ese fondo y a partir de esas ganancias invertir.",1491.4,1497.88,{"idx":2661,"utterance_id":2662,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2663,"start_s":2664,"end_s":2665,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},394,"154125","Países como Noruega hicieron eso con el petróleo.",1498.46,1501.74,{"idx":2667,"utterance_id":2668,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2669,"start_s":2670,"end_s":2671,"word_count":242,"indexable":181},395,"154126","El noruego podría dejar de trabajar hoy y cada uno tendría millones en la cuenta.",1502.54,1505.8,{"idx":2673,"utterance_id":2674,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2675,"start_s":2676,"end_s":2677,"word_count":254,"indexable":181},396,"154127","Lo hicieron en el pasado; tienen un ahorro que invierte en educación y se convirtió en lo que es hoy.",1506.16,1510.38,{"idx":2679,"utterance_id":2680,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2681,"start_s":2682,"end_s":2683,"word_count":364,"topic_slug":2613,"topic_label":2614,"target_id":2615,"target_proposition":2616,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":291,"rationale":2684,"indexable":269},397,"154128","Minas tiene un activo extraordinario, y ahora estamos hablando, además del niobio, litio, tierras raras y otras oportunidades, que no pueden simplemente exportarse con el SEFEM.",1511.1,1523.02,"critica el uso de ingresos de la minería para eventos y defiende inversión estratégica.",{"idx":2686,"utterance_id":2687,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2688,"start_s":2689,"end_s":2690,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},398,"154129","No puede entrar en la caja de la prefeitura para convertirse en un show.",1523.66,1525.78,{"idx":2692,"utterance_id":2693,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":1610,"start_s":2694,"end_s":2695,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},399,"154130",1526.7,1527.1,{"idx":2697,"utterance_id":2698,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2699,"start_s":2700,"end_s":2701,"word_count":256,"topic_slug":2613,"topic_label":2614,"target_id":2615,"target_proposition":2616,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":2702,"rationale":2703,"indexable":269},400,"154131","Tiene que usar eso para la inversión y el desarrollo de nuestra minería.",1527.12,1531.88,0.86,"defiende usar activos minerales para inversión y desarrollo estatal.",{"idx":2705,"utterance_id":2706,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2707,"start_s":2708,"end_s":2709,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},401,"154132","Entonces, miren, estoy hablando de temas serios con ustedes.",1532.48,1534.46,{"idx":2711,"utterance_id":2712,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2713,"start_s":2714,"end_s":2715,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},402,"154133","Educación, infraestructura ferroviaria.",1534.7,1537.16,{"idx":2717,"utterance_id":2718,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2719,"start_s":2720,"end_s":2721,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},403,"154134","Estoy hablando aquí de turismo.",1537.52,1538.6,{"idx":2723,"utterance_id":2724,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2725,"start_s":2726,"end_s":2727,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},404,"154135","Y hay que hablar mucho de seguridad pública.",1539.02,1540.82,{"idx":2729,"utterance_id":2730,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2731,"start_s":2732,"end_s":2733,"word_count":317,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2734,"target_proposition":2735,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":2736,"indexable":269},405,"154136","Es decir, no puede ser que el gobernador de Minas Gerais se oponga a la creación del Sistema Nacional de Seguridad Pública.",1541.4,1549.14,"42127b02-ec65-4550-a83c-5c95bc092211","implementar y adherirse al Sistema Nacional de Seguridad Pública en Minas Gerais","dice que el gobernador no puede ser oposición y se posiciona a favor.",{"idx":2738,"utterance_id":2739,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2740,"start_s":2741,"end_s":2742,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2734,"target_proposition":2735,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":2743,"rationale":2744,"indexable":269},406,"154137","Entro en ese debate de manera clarísima como alguien que se posiciona totalmente a favor de un Sistema Nacional de Seguridad Pública.",1549.6,1556.14,0.95,"declara 'posiciona totalmente a favor' del Sistema Nacional de Seguridad Pública.",{"idx":2746,"utterance_id":2747,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2748,"start_s":2749,"end_s":2750,"word_count":244,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2751,"target_proposition":2752,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":2753,"indexable":269},407,"154138","La Policía Militar, la Policía Civil no pueden quedarse aisladas de la Policía Federal.",1556.62,1560.72,"1cb5d18f-a452-47b1-8805-d6f7acbde7d1","crear un gabinete permanente de integración entre la Policía Federal, la Policía Civil, la Policía Militar y la Policía Penal","afirma que las policías no pueden quedar aisladas entre sí.",{"idx":2755,"utterance_id":2756,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2757,"start_s":2758,"end_s":2759,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},408,"154139","Pues, estos días estuve en la superintendencia de la Policía Federal.",1561.74,1564.22,{"idx":2761,"utterance_id":2762,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2763,"start_s":2764,"end_s":2765,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},409,"154140","Por invitación.",1564.52,1565.06,{"idx":2767,"utterance_id":2768,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2763,"start_s":2769,"end_s":2770,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},410,"154141",1566.18,1566.66,{"idx":2772,"utterance_id":2773,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2774,"start_s":2775,"end_s":2776,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},411,"154142","Qué bueno.",1567.48,1567.78,{"idx":2778,"utterance_id":2779,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2780,"start_s":2781,"end_s":2782,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},412,"154143","Son 20 años de Marcos Valério para Daniel Vorcar.",1568.48,1571.7,{"idx":2784,"utterance_id":2785,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2786,"start_s":2787,"end_s":2788,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},413,"154144","Estoy en la política desde hace 20 años.",1571.72,1573.34,{"idx":2790,"utterance_id":2791,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2792,"start_s":2793,"end_s":2794,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},414,"154145","Desde 2006 hasta ahora.",1574.18,1575.02,{"idx":2796,"utterance_id":2797,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2798,"start_s":2799,"end_s":2800,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},415,"154146","Muchos escándalos.",1576.52,1577.26,{"idx":2802,"utterance_id":2803,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2804,"start_s":2805,"end_s":2806,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},416,"154147","No figuré en ninguno de ellos.",1577.38,1578.38,{"idx":2808,"utterance_id":2809,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2810,"start_s":2811,"end_s":2812,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},417,"154148","Y cuando veo estos escándalos, me pregunto, ¿no?",1579.08,1581.3,{"idx":2814,"utterance_id":2815,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2816,"start_s":2817,"end_s":2818,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},418,"154149","¿Cómo?",1582.52,1582.72,{"idx":2820,"utterance_id":2821,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2822,"start_s":2823,"end_s":2824,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},419,"154150","Y cuando llego a la Policía Federal, no como citado, sino como invitado, escucho.",1583.96,1588.9,{"idx":2826,"utterance_id":2827,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2828,"start_s":2829,"end_s":2830,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},420,"154151","Es impresionante lo que la Policía Federal es capaz de hacer.",1589.72,1592.36,{"idx":2832,"utterance_id":2833,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2834,"start_s":2835,"end_s":2836,"word_count":27,"indexable":181},421,"154152","Con inteligencia y con integración en nuestras carreteras, en los entronques de las vías, en la lucha contra el crimen organizado, en la búsqueda de las cabezas de las organizaciones criminales, en el enfrentamiento con el Comando Vermelho y con el PCC.",1593.02,1608.44,{"idx":2838,"utterance_id":2839,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2840,"start_s":2841,"end_s":2842,"word_count":311,"indexable":181},422,"154153","Y se sienten muy aisladas del propio gobierno y de la participación con la Policía Militar y con la Policía Civil.",1609.56,1614.26,{"idx":2844,"utterance_id":2845,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2846,"start_s":2847,"end_s":2848,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},423,"154154","Tiene que ser una sola.",1614.66,1615.84,{"idx":2850,"utterance_id":2851,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2852,"start_s":2853,"end_s":2854,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},424,"154155","Si el crimen está organizado, la policía también debe 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adhieran.",{"idx":2871,"utterance_id":2872,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2873,"start_s":2874,"end_s":2875,"word_count":364,"indexable":181},427,"154158","El crimen organizado está aquí, en la sierra, en la cabaña; gente que no pertenecía a facciones fue a Río por culpa de la DPF y regresó integrando redes del crimen organizado.",1631.96,1643.52,{"idx":2877,"utterance_id":2878,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2879,"start_s":2880,"end_s":2881,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},428,"154159","Los cuerpos que estamos viendo apilados, eso es disputa territorial.",1644,1648.54,{"idx":2883,"utterance_id":2884,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2885,"start_s":2886,"end_s":2887,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},429,"154160","Y el gobernador tiene que tener el respeto de la policía.",1649.14,1651.24,{"idx":2889,"utterance_id":2890,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2891,"start_s":2892,"end_s":2893,"word_count":271,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2894,"target_proposition":2895,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":2896,"indexable":269},430,"154161","Y no enviar un proyecto a la Asamblea, proponer un aumento y luego retractarse.",1651.56,1655.58,"27683c3d-1030-4f49-9a6e-a9f782e72a0c","igualar y aumentar los salarios de los policías militares","critica enviar un proyecto de aumento y luego retroceder, defendiendo consistencia.",{"idx":2898,"utterance_id":2899,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2900,"start_s":2901,"end_s":2902,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},431,"154162","Entonces perdiste el respeto.",1655.64,1656.54,{"idx":2904,"utterance_id":2905,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2906,"start_s":2907,"end_s":2908,"word_count":333,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2909,"target_proposition":2910,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":2911,"indexable":269},432,"154163","Tenemos que discutir un fondo para la seguridad, que servirá para inversiones, para aliviar la caja y para poder aumentar los salarios.",1657.06,1664.2,"d62f574f-d39c-4c7d-a8b2-7aedd46c2e49","crear un fondo para la seguridad pública para inversiones y aumento salarial","propone un fondo para aliviar la caja y financiar aumentos salariales.",{"idx":2913,"utterance_id":2914,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2915,"start_s":2916,"end_s":2917,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},433,"154164","Porque ya estamos rozando la ley de responsabilidad fiscal.",1664.38,1667.18,{"idx":2919,"utterance_id":2920,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2921,"start_s":2922,"end_s":2923,"word_count":43,"indexable":181},434,"154165","Y ese debate con la policía militar, con la policía civil, con el cuerpo de bomberos, con el sistema penitenciario... Gente, ¿qué le está pasando al sistema penitenciario?",1667.52,1675,{"idx":2925,"utterance_id":2926,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2927,"start_s":2928,"end_s":2929,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},435,"154166","¿Han hablado con un agente penitenciario recientemente?",1675.6,1678.1,{"idx":2931,"utterance_id":2932,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":846,"start_s":2933,"end_s":2934,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},436,"154167",1678.24,1678.38,{"idx":2936,"utterance_id":2937,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2938,"start_s":2939,"end_s":2940,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},437,"154168","No tienen idea de lo que está pasando esa gente.",1678.4,1680.92,{"idx":2942,"utterance_id":2943,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2944,"start_s":2945,"end_s":2946,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},438,"154169","Y además quienes cuidan de los menores infractores.",1681.44,1684.72,{"idx":2948,"utterance_id":2949,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2950,"start_s":2951,"end_s":2952,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},439,"154170","Otro sistema que está abandonado.",1686.1,1689.04,{"idx":2954,"utterance_id":2955,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2956,"start_s":2957,"end_s":2958,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},440,"154171","Abandonado.",1690.04,1690.52,{"idx":2960,"utterance_id":2961,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2962,"start_s":2963,"end_s":2964,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},441,"154172","Y el gobernador no puede seguir tratando al servidor público como enemigo de la población.",1690.8,1695.3,{"idx":2966,"utterance_id":2967,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2968,"start_s":2969,"end_s":2970,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},442,"154173","Como gente que chupa nuestro dinero.",1696.28,1697.7,{"idx":2972,"utterance_id":2973,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2974,"start_s":2975,"end_s":2976,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},443,"154174","Gente, un servidor penitenciario.",1698.1,1699.5,{"idx":2978,"utterance_id":2979,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2980,"start_s":2981,"end_s":2982,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},444,"154175","Alguien que está en el sistema carcelario.",1699.92,1703.02,{"idx":2984,"utterance_id":2985,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2986,"start_s":2987,"end_s":2988,"word_count":492,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2989,"target_proposition":2990,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":2991,"indexable":269},445,"154176","Alguien que cuida de los menores infractores, cuerpo de bomberos, policía militar; todo ese sistema debe tener una mesa permanente de diálogo con el gobernador e integración con la Policía Federal y con la Policía Rodoviaria Federal; tiene que ser un solo juego, con todos remando contra la criminalidad.",1704,1717.42,"2f456148-79b5-49e1-9926-4428f60e3b52","crear una mesa permanente de diálogo entre el gobierno y los servidores de la seguridad pública y del sistema penitenciario","defiende una mesa permanente y la integración con PF y PRF para enfrentar la criminalidad.",{"idx":2993,"utterance_id":2994,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":2995,"start_s":2996,"end_s":2997,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},446,"154177","Eso debe decirse con claridad en la elección.",1717.54,1719.38,{"idx":2999,"utterance_id":3000,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3001,"start_s":3002,"end_s":3003,"word_count":600,"indexable":181},447,"154178","Sobre la articulación política, porque estamos en este momento en que en los bastidores se está más o menos integrando, tenemos algunos nombres ya puestos, algunos que aún no están 100% confirmados, como el de Cleitinho y el de Rodrigo Pacheco, pero existe en los bastidores la idea de que usted, su candidatura, como usted mismo dijo anteriormente, podría ser una candidatura de ensayo.",1719.44,1741.4,{"idx":3005,"utterance_id":3006,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3007,"start_s":3008,"end_s":3009,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},448,"154179","¿O que usted podría optar por la vicepresidencia o formar una coalición?",1742.3,1745.04,{"idx":3011,"utterance_id":3012,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3013,"start_s":3014,"end_s":3015,"word_count":311,"indexable":181},449,"154180","¿Existe esa posibilidad de que usted vaya como candidato a la vicepresidencia o en una fórmula más de derecha, o incluso con Rodrigo Pacheco?",1745.24,1751.18,{"idx":3017,"utterance_id":3018,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3019,"start_s":3020,"end_s":3021,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},450,"154181","No, ¿dónde está la cámara?",1751.6,1752.3,{"idx":3023,"utterance_id":3024,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3025,"start_s":3026,"end_s":3027,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},451,"154182","Aquí.",1752.72,1753.1,{"idx":3029,"utterance_id":3030,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3031,"start_s":3032,"end_s":3033,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},452,"154183","Elector de Minas, usted ya sabe el número, yo aún no puedo decirlo.",1754.46,1757.9,{"idx":3035,"utterance_id":3036,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3037,"start_s":3038,"end_s":3039,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},453,"154184","Usted ya sabe el nombre, yo aún no puedo hablarlo.",1757.92,1760.4,{"idx":3041,"utterance_id":3042,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3043,"start_s":3044,"end_s":3045,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},454,"154185","Pero lo que puedo decir es que estará allí.",1760.82,1764.68,{"idx":3047,"utterance_id":3048,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3049,"start_s":3050,"end_s":3051,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},455,"154186","No existe posibilidad.",1766.36,1767.66,{"idx":3053,"utterance_id":3054,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3055,"start_s":3056,"end_s":3057,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},456,"154187","Déjeme mirarle bien a los ojos.",1767.68,1768.7,{"idx":3059,"utterance_id":3060,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3061,"start_s":3062,"end_s":3063,"word_count":510,"topic_slug":3064,"topic_label":3065,"target_id":3066,"target_proposition":3067,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":2743,"rationale":3068,"indexable":269},457,"154188","Aquí hay un precandidato que, cuando llegue julio... va a participar en una convención del MDB, donde ese nombre será aprobado, para que a partir de agosto, en el momento en que sea posible, yo pueda decirle a todo el mundo que soy candidato a gobernador de Minas Gerais.",1769.08,1785.84,"programa-eleitoral","Programa Electoral","7456e8cc-1f3a-4272-9ec7-a8230a211784","postularse al cargo de gobernador de Minas Gerais","anuncia el camino y la convención para declarar la candidatura a gobernador.",{"idx":3070,"utterance_id":3071,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3072,"start_s":3073,"end_s":3074,"word_count":311,"indexable":181},458,"154189","Le hago esa pregunta también, porque existe un interés del presidente Lula de aliarse con el MDB aquí en el Estado.",1786.06,1791.76,{"idx":3076,"utterance_id":3077,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3078,"start_s":3079,"end_s":3080,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},459,"154190","¿Usted tiene diálogo con él?",1792,1793.46,{"idx":3082,"utterance_id":3083,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3084,"start_s":3085,"end_s":3086,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},460,"154191","Tengo diálogo con todo el mundo.",1793.66,1794.88,{"idx":3088,"utterance_id":3089,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3090,"start_s":3091,"end_s":3092,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},461,"154192","Solo hay dos personajes con los que, como usted sabe, yo no dialogo en la política de Minas.",1795.3,1798.22,{"idx":3094,"utterance_id":3095,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3096,"start_s":3097,"end_s":3098,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},462,"154193","Le doy ejemplos.",1800.1,1800.74,{"idx":3100,"utterance_id":3101,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3102,"start_s":3103,"end_s":3104,"word_count":15,"indexable":181},463,"154194","La semana pasada... Domingo Sávio, que es un amigo desde que estaba en el PSDB, siempre hemos tenido una excelente relación, estaba en el mismo evento que yo en el Automóvel Clube de Minas Gerais.",1800.98,1812.5,{"idx":3106,"utterance_id":3107,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3108,"start_s":3109,"end_s":3110,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},464,"154195","Y mi bar, ya sabe, está ahí en la planta baja.",1813.98,1816.32,{"idx":3112,"utterance_id":3113,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3114,"start_s":3115,"end_s":3116,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},465,"154196","Terminamos y él se fue conmigo.",1816.82,1818.08,{"idx":3118,"utterance_id":3119,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3120,"start_s":3121,"end_s":3122,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},466,"154197","Nos sentamos a la mesa, conversamos, dialogamos sobre los problemas de Minas.",1818.78,1822.4,{"idx":3124,"utterance_id":3125,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3126,"start_s":3127,"end_s":3128,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},467,"154198","Era su cumpleaños, le cantamos 'parabéns'.",1822.5,1824.92,{"idx":3130,"utterance_id":3131,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3132,"start_s":3133,"end_s":3134,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},468,"154199","Él estaba con su esposa, muy simpática, diálogo puro.",1824.96,1830.56,{"idx":3136,"utterance_id":3137,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3138,"start_s":3139,"end_s":3140,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},469,"154200","Con un miembro del PL (Partido Liberal).",1831.02,1831.84,{"idx":3142,"utterance_id":3143,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3144,"start_s":3145,"end_s":3146,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},470,"154201","Hablo con Gustavo Santana, con Zé Santana, con varios miembros del PL (Partido Liberal), con el propio Nicolas.",1832.2,1838.38,{"idx":3148,"utterance_id":3149,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3150,"start_s":3151,"end_s":3152,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},471,"154202","Diálogo sobre problemas, sobre temas y tal.",1839.08,1841.9,{"idx":3154,"utterance_id":3155,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3156,"start_s":3157,"end_s":3158,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},472,"154203","Hablo.",1842.38,1842.9,{"idx":3160,"utterance_id":3161,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3162,"start_s":3163,"end_s":3164,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},473,"154204","Republicanos.",1843.32,1844.08,{"idx":3166,"utterance_id":3167,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3168,"start_s":3169,"end_s":3170,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},474,"154205","Hablo permanentemente con Cleitinho.",1844.26,1846.22,{"idx":3172,"utterance_id":3173,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3174,"start_s":3175,"end_s":3176,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},475,"154206","Con Marcos Pereira.",1848.86,1850.32,{"idx":3178,"utterance_id":3179,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3180,"start_s":3181,"end_s":3182,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},476,"154207","Estos días estábamos en Brasilia y Marcos Pereira bromeó con Baleia Rossi.",1850.8,1853.8,{"idx":935,"utterance_id":3184,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3185,"start_s":3186,"end_s":3187,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},"154208","Ey, Baleia, este de aquí es mi sueño de consumo.",1854.24,1856.82,{"idx":3189,"utterance_id":3190,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3191,"start_s":3192,"end_s":3193,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},478,"154209","Este de aquí tendría que haber venido por Republicanos y tal.",1857.22,1859.64,{"idx":3195,"utterance_id":3196,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3197,"start_s":3198,"end_s":3199,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},479,"154210","Hablo con Republicanos.",1860.04,1861.36,{"idx":3201,"utterance_id":3202,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3203,"start_s":3204,"end_s":3205,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},480,"154211","Hablo con el PSD.",1861.84,1862.8,{"idx":3207,"utterance_id":3208,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3209,"start_s":3210,"end_s":3211,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},481,"154212","Estaba dialogando con Eduardo Leite, apoyándolo.",1863.2,1866.36,{"idx":3213,"utterance_id":3214,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3215,"start_s":3216,"end_s":3217,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},482,"154213","Creo que es un nombre increíble que debería haber sido candidato para ofrecer más opciones para Brasil.",1866.4,1871.82,{"idx":3219,"utterance_id":3220,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3221,"start_s":3222,"end_s":3223,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},483,"154214","Hablo con União Brasil.",1872.38,1874.02,{"idx":3225,"utterance_id":3226,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3227,"start_s":3228,"end_s":3229,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},484,"154215","Hablo con el PP.",1874.32,1875.36,{"idx":3231,"utterance_id":3232,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3233,"start_s":3234,"end_s":3235,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},485,"154216","Hablo con el PT (Partido de los Trabajadores).",1875.98,1877.1,{"idx":3237,"utterance_id":3238,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3239,"start_s":3240,"end_s":3241,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},486,"154217","Con João Batista dos Mares Guia.",1877.82,1879.28,{"idx":3243,"utterance_id":3244,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3245,"start_s":3246,"end_s":3247,"word_count":261,"indexable":181},487,"154218","Con Pedro Rousseff; hablo con el PSB, con Otacilinho todo el tiempo, con el PV, con el presidente Osvaldo, con Lohana, con el profesor Cleito, con el PCdoB.",1879.72,1889.02,{"idx":3249,"utterance_id":3250,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3251,"start_s":3252,"end_s":3253,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},488,"154219","Gente, ¿qué está haciendo aquí el político mineiro que no conversa?",1889.88,1894.56,{"idx":3255,"utterance_id":3256,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3257,"start_s":3258,"end_s":3259,"word_count":242,"indexable":181},489,"154220","Entonces, vamos a seguir en este proceso de conversación, pero mi postura es muy sólida.",1895.28,1900.1,{"idx":3261,"utterance_id":3262,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":905,"start_s":3263,"end_s":3264,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},490,"154221",1900.4,1900.7,{"idx":3266,"utterance_id":3267,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3268,"start_s":3269,"end_s":3270,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},491,"154222","Porque no veo hoy, Ana, a nadie que ofrezca en este proceso electoral la postura que yo estoy ofreciendo.",1901.06,1906.94,{"idx":3272,"utterance_id":3273,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3274,"start_s":3275,"end_s":3276,"word_count":233,"topic_slug":3064,"topic_label":3065,"target_id":3277,"target_proposition":3278,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":3279,"indexable":269},492,"154223","No quiero, prioritariamente, servir de palanque para nadie.",1908.14,1911.36,"2e593840-8af0-4a40-bb77-077a3c17610c","no permitir que el exgobernador suba al estrado de mi campaña","declara explícitamente 'não estou prioritariamente querendo ser palanque'.",{"idx":3281,"utterance_id":3282,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3283,"start_s":3284,"end_s":3285,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},493,"154224","Con todo respeto a los candidatos a la presidencia.",1912,1914.48,{"idx":3287,"utterance_id":3288,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3289,"start_s":3290,"end_s":3291,"word_count":311,"topic_slug":3064,"topic_label":3065,"target_id":3277,"target_proposition":3278,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":3292,"indexable":269},494,"154225","Tienen ese interés legítimo, pero mi interés, más allá de ser un palanque, es ser el gobernador de los mineiros.",1914.88,1921.18,"prioriza ser gobernador de Minas en lugar de ser palanque.",{"idx":3294,"utterance_id":3295,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3296,"start_s":3297,"end_s":3298,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},495,"154226","Eso es diferente.",1921.92,1922.64,{"idx":3300,"utterance_id":3301,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3302,"start_s":3303,"end_s":3304,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":3064,"topic_label":3065,"target_id":3305,"target_proposition":3306,"stance":266,"stance_confidence":267,"rationale":3307,"indexable":269},496,"154227","Una necesidad, por parte del presidente Lula, de construir un palanque; no solo él, sino también Flávio Bolsonaro en Minas Gerais.",1923.46,1930.5,"6fafa58e-14ea-4a8c-9fbd-57698ea98b3f","construir un escenario en Minas Gerais para candidato presidencial","describe la necesidad de presidentes en la tribuna, sin posicionarse.",{"idx":3309,"utterance_id":3310,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3311,"start_s":3312,"end_s":3313,"word_count":242,"topic_slug":3064,"topic_label":3065,"target_id":3314,"target_proposition":3315,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":3316,"indexable":269},497,"154228","Esa necesidad personal de ellos no puede ser mayor que la necesidad del pueblo mineiro.",1930.86,1934.04,"ae2e3f19-d40e-4b4c-af7a-1240b3748a24","priorizar la necesidad del pueblo de Minas Gerais sobre intereses de plataformas electorales nacionales","afirma que el interés personal no puede ser mayor que la necesidad del pueblo.",{"idx":3318,"utterance_id":3319,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3320,"start_s":3321,"end_s":3322,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":3064,"topic_label":3065,"target_id":3314,"target_proposition":3315,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":779,"rationale":3323,"indexable":181},498,"154229","¿Esa construcción no puede pasar por encima de su voluntad?",1934.22,1936.52,"pregunta retórica refuerza que la construcción no debe atropellar la voluntad popular.",{"idx":3325,"utterance_id":3326,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3327,"start_s":3328,"end_s":3329,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},499,"154230","Por ejemplo, ¿una conversación con Baleia Rossi?",1936.54,1938.22,{"idx":3331,"utterance_id":3332,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3333,"start_s":3334,"end_s":3335,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},500,"154231","Hay una cosa que está muy clara en todo este proceso.",1939.02,1942,{"idx":3337,"utterance_id":3338,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3339,"start_s":3340,"end_s":3341,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},501,"154232","Voy a tener que citar.",1942.84,1943.6,{"idx":3343,"utterance_id":3344,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3345,"start_s":3346,"end_s":3347,"word_count":333,"topic_slug":3348,"topic_label":88,"target_id":3349,"target_proposition":3350,"stance":266,"stance_confidence":267,"rationale":3351,"indexable":269},502,"154233","O Estado de Minas llegó a publicar un artículo que daba por cierta la filiación de Rodrigo Pacheco en el MDB para ser candidato de Lula.",1943.62,1951.2,"filiacao-partidaria","d241ecae-1173-4ba7-9995-5652660f33e9","afirmar la filiación de Rodrigo Pacheco al MDB","relata una publicación periodística que daba la afiliación por segura.",{"idx":3353,"utterance_id":3354,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3355,"start_s":3356,"end_s":3357,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},503,"154234","Fue una afirmación que se hizo.",1951.62,1952.86,{"idx":3359,"utterance_id":3360,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3361,"start_s":3362,"end_s":3363,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},504,"154235","Eso generó un trastorno en mi vida.",1954.5,1955.9,{"idx":3365,"utterance_id":3366,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":905,"start_s":3367,"end_s":3368,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},505,"154236",1956.7,1957.02,{"idx":3370,"utterance_id":3371,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3372,"start_s":3373,"end_s":3374,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},506,"154237","Porque la gente empezó, a partir de ese artículo, a decir, ¿viste?",1957.74,1961.96,{"idx":3376,"utterance_id":3377,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3378,"start_s":3379,"end_s":3380,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},507,"154238","Mira ahí al MDB atropellando a Gabriel.",1963.14,1964.78,{"idx":3382,"utterance_id":3383,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3384,"start_s":3385,"end_s":3386,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},508,"154239","Y Baleia Rossi, presidente nacional, y Nilton Cardoso",1966.18,1968.68,{"idx":3388,"utterance_id":3389,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3390,"start_s":3391,"end_s":3392,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},509,"154240","Jr.,",1968.72,1968.8,{"idx":3394,"utterance_id":3395,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3396,"start_s":3397,"end_s":3398,"word_count":271,"topic_slug":3348,"topic_label":88,"target_id":3399,"target_proposition":3400,"stance":266,"stance_confidence":267,"rationale":3401,"indexable":269},510,"154241","presidente estadual, se encargaron de inmediato no solo de desmentir, sino de reafirmar.",1969.7,1975.02,"512ebc1d-99e2-4e44-9026-eeabf02e103e","desmentir la afiliación de Rodrigo Pacheco al MDB","informa que dirigentes desmintieron y reafirmaron la posición de inmediato.",{"idx":3403,"utterance_id":3404,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3405,"start_s":3406,"end_s":3407,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":3348,"topic_label":88,"target_id":3408,"target_proposition":3409,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":291,"rationale":3410,"indexable":269},511,"154242","El MDB no es un partido con dueño.",1975.16,1977.56,"a863afdb-c66a-443d-b08e-2492b3cf2c35","asegurar democracia interna en los partidos","afirma categóricamente 'o MDB não é um partido com dono'.",{"idx":3412,"utterance_id":3413,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3414,"start_s":3415,"end_s":3416,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},512,"154243","Esa es una característica muy clara del Movimento Democrático Brasileiro, que cumplió 60 años.",1978.26,1981.62,{"idx":3418,"utterance_id":3419,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3420,"start_s":3421,"end_s":3422,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},513,"154244","En este 2026, y es, sí, diferente de otros partidos.",1982.04,1985.36,{"idx":3424,"utterance_id":3425,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3426,"start_s":3427,"end_s":3428,"word_count":317,"indexable":181},514,"154245","No sin defectos, no sin problemas, pero es un partido que, en Belo Horizonte, tiene un directorio ejecutivo con el presidente electo.",1985.7,1992.76,{"idx":3430,"utterance_id":3431,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3432,"start_s":3433,"end_s":3434,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},515,"154246","En este caso, yo.",1993.02,1993.48,{"idx":1031,"utterance_id":3436,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3437,"start_s":3438,"end_s":3439,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},"154247","En Minas, el presidente es elegido.",1994.14,1996.16,{"idx":3441,"utterance_id":3442,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3443,"start_s":3444,"end_s":3445,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},517,"154248","Directorio ejecutivo estatal, Nilton Cardoso Júnior.",1996.54,1998.92,{"idx":3447,"utterance_id":3448,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3449,"start_s":3450,"end_s":3451,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},518,"154249","Y en Brasil, Baleia, Roça, es lo mismo.",1999.42,2001.46,{"idx":3453,"utterance_id":3454,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3455,"start_s":3456,"end_s":3457,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},519,"154250","¿Qué es diferente para que el lector entienda?",2001.96,2003.42,{"idx":3459,"utterance_id":3460,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3461,"start_s":3462,"end_s":3463,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},520,"154251","En otros partidos, no existe instancia ejecutiva a nivel municipal y estatal.",2003.54,2007.6,{"idx":3465,"utterance_id":3466,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3467,"start_s":3468,"end_s":3469,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},521,"154252","Son comisiones provisionales.",2007.88,2009.22,{"idx":3471,"utterance_id":3472,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3473,"start_s":3474,"end_s":3475,"word_count":233,"topic_slug":3348,"topic_label":88,"target_id":3476,"target_proposition":3477,"stance":266,"stance_confidence":779,"rationale":3478,"indexable":181},522,"154253","Entonces, lo que se decide en Brasilia... se impone.",2009.7,2012.1,"a5e10a51-3587-497d-b001-6606782b009b","centralizar las decisiones partidarias en instancias nacionales","afirma que, en otros partidos, las decisiones se imponen desde Brasília.",{"idx":3480,"utterance_id":3481,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3482,"start_s":3483,"end_s":3484,"word_count":254,"indexable":181},523,"154254","Es el caso del PSD, del PP, de União, de Republicanos, si no me equivoco.",2012.8,2019.22,{"idx":3486,"utterance_id":3487,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3488,"start_s":3489,"end_s":3490,"word_count":43,"indexable":181},524,"154255","No es el caso del PT, hasta donde sé, porque el PT también tiene una organicidad, y no sé cuál es la situación del PL, ¿ok?",2019.82,2027.16,{"idx":3492,"utterance_id":3493,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3494,"start_s":3495,"end_s":3496,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},525,"154256","Que me parece también muy concentrado en las decisiones de Valdemar.",2027.26,2030.66,{"idx":3498,"utterance_id":3499,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3500,"start_s":3501,"end_s":3502,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},526,"154257","Entonces, quizá Valdemar da Costa Neto tenga ese poder de decir: 'el candidato aquí es este'.",2031.18,2036.18,{"idx":3504,"utterance_id":3505,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3506,"start_s":3507,"end_s":3508,"word_count":254,"indexable":181},527,"154258","El PSD también tiene en la mano de Kassab a alguien que va a decir: 'el candidato es ese'.",2036.96,2041.76,{"idx":3510,"utterance_id":3511,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3512,"start_s":3513,"end_s":3514,"word_count":447,"indexable":181},528,"154259","El União con Rueda, el Ciro en el PP, en el MDB, Baleia Rossi, además de ser un gran amigo y un socio muy leal, ¿no?, y como a él le gusta decir, de Bocaxia, no es el dueño del MDB.",2041.98,2053.82,{"idx":3516,"utterance_id":3517,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3518,"start_s":3519,"end_s":3520,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},529,"154260","Ni del Nacional, ni del Mineiro ni de Belo Horizonte.",2054.38,2056.86,{"idx":3522,"utterance_id":3523,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3524,"start_s":3525,"end_s":3526,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},530,"154261","Aquí hemos construido con todas las dificultades.",2057.44,2060.18,{"idx":3528,"utterance_id":3529,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3530,"start_s":3531,"end_s":3532,"word_count":27,"indexable":181},531,"154262","Porque es muy difícil ser un partido, en este momento en que hay una gravedad alrededor de la familia Bolsonaro y de Lula, crear otras opciones políticas, pero nosotros hemos construido con mucha independencia.",2060.2,2070.26,{"idx":3534,"utterance_id":3535,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3536,"start_s":3537,"end_s":3538,"word_count":202,"topic_slug":3348,"topic_label":88,"target_id":3539,"target_proposition":3540,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":3541,"indexable":181},532,"154263","Entonces, no habrá interferencia.",2070.3,2071.82,"62631b00-0c44-4f19-a368-eaea7ff8a795","mantenerse fuera de las decisiones del partido","promete explícitamente 'não haverá interferência' en las decisiones locales.",{"idx":3543,"utterance_id":3544,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3545,"start_s":3546,"end_s":3547,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},533,"154264","No habrá ninguna posibilidad.",2072.36,2075.3,{"idx":3549,"utterance_id":3550,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3551,"start_s":3552,"end_s":3553,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},534,"154265","Y vea, eso ya se ha venido barajando desde noviembre.",2075.86,2078.92,{"idx":3555,"utterance_id":3556,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3557,"start_s":3558,"end_s":3559,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},535,"154266","Y desde noviembre lo vengo repitiendo.",2079.4,2080.78,{"idx":3561,"utterance_id":3562,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3563,"start_s":3564,"end_s":3565,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},536,"154267","No va a ocurrir.",2081.02,2081.82,{"idx":3567,"utterance_id":3568,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3569,"start_s":3570,"end_s":3571,"word_count":242,"topic_slug":3064,"topic_label":3065,"target_id":3572,"target_proposition":3573,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":3574,"indexable":269},537,"154268","Entonces, esta candidatura, precandidatura por el momento, cumple un papel y lo cumplirá hasta el final.",2082.22,2087.26,"07fa7eb7-98ab-4a10-9324-36f90d3f3fe2","competir por el cargo de gobernador y disputar hasta el final","declara que la precandidatura 'cumpre um papel e vai cumprir até o fim'.",{"idx":3576,"utterance_id":3577,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3578,"start_s":3579,"end_s":3580,"word_count":242,"indexable":181},538,"154269","Es muy importante tener solidez en la defensa de principios e ideas en el proceso electoral.",2088.2,2092.98,{"idx":3582,"utterance_id":3583,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3584,"start_s":3585,"end_s":3586,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},539,"154270","Y yo voy a representar ese papel para quien quiera, en este momento, pensar en Minas Gerais antes de pensar en cualquier otra cosa.",2093.28,2099.42,{"idx":3588,"utterance_id":3589,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3590,"start_s":3591,"end_s":3592,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},540,"154271","¿Ya hay un nombre para el vice?",2100.04,2102.3,{"idx":3594,"utterance_id":3595,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3596,"start_s":3597,"end_s":3598,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},541,"154272","No hay.",2102.38,2102.68,{"idx":3600,"utterance_id":3601,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3602,"start_s":3603,"end_s":3604,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},542,"154273","¿Tiene alguna sugerencia?",2103.12,2103.92,{"idx":3606,"utterance_id":3607,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3608,"start_s":3609,"end_s":3610,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},543,"154274","¿Y para senadores?",2105.28,2106.18,{"idx":3612,"utterance_id":3613,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3614,"start_s":3615,"end_s":3616,"word_count":254,"topic_slug":3064,"topic_label":3065,"target_id":3617,"target_proposition":3618,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":291,"rationale":3619,"indexable":269},544,"154275","Estamos en un proceso de construcción, les insisto, que pasa antes por el programa.",2106.92,2111.32,"67da8392-7f3b-4f09-9e8e-341569edea7d","construir un programa partidario abierto y participativo","defiende que el proceso 'passa antes pelo programa'.",{"idx":3621,"utterance_id":3622,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3623,"start_s":3624,"end_s":3625,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},545,"154276","Creo que hay una ansiedad.",2112.76,2116.14,{"idx":3627,"utterance_id":3628,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3629,"start_s":3630,"end_s":3631,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},546,"154277","Es natural, proviene de la prensa y del mundo político, el deseo de componer el juego.",2116.44,2119.54,{"idx":3633,"utterance_id":3634,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3635,"start_s":3636,"end_s":3637,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},547,"154278","El tiempo de la política de Minas es otro.",2120.32,2121.88,{"idx":3639,"utterance_id":3640,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3641,"start_s":3642,"end_s":3643,"word_count":27,"indexable":181},548,"154279","Ustedes recuerdan que en el proceso para alcalde de Belo Horizonte, hubo una sintonía que fue surgiendo entre mi candidatura y la candidatura de Paulo Brant, que en ese momento estaba en el PSB.",2121.9,2137.2,{"idx":3645,"utterance_id":3646,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3647,"start_s":3648,"end_s":3649,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},549,"154280","Paulo Brant es el mejor amigo que alguien puede tener en la política.",2137.94,2140.22,{"idx":3651,"utterance_id":3652,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3653,"start_s":3654,"end_s":3655,"word_count":254,"indexable":181},550,"154281","Recientemente, otro amigo querido, Bilac, de União Brasil, invitó a Paulo a un almuerzo.",2140.92,2146.42,{"idx":3657,"utterance_id":3658,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3659,"start_s":3660,"end_s":3661,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},551,"154282","—O Paulo, ven a ser candidato a diputado federal por União Brasil.",2146.54,2150.04,{"idx":3663,"utterance_id":3664,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3665,"start_s":3666,"end_s":3667,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},552,"154283","Tenemos muchos recursos y posibilidades.",2150.12,2151.98,{"idx":3669,"utterance_id":3670,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3671,"start_s":3672,"end_s":3673,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},553,"154284","Y Paulinho, le agradezco, pero estoy del lado de Gabriel.",2152.64,2157,{"idx":3675,"utterance_id":3676,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3677,"start_s":3678,"end_s":3679,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},554,"154285","No hay posibilidad de repetir, porque Paulo Branche ya fue vicegobernador.",2157.22,2159.42,{"idx":3681,"utterance_id":3682,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3683,"start_s":3684,"end_s":3685,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},555,"154286","Paulo es precandidato a diputado federal.",2159.46,2162.54,{"idx":3687,"utterance_id":3688,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3689,"start_s":3690,"end_s":3691,"word_count":202,"topic_slug":3692,"topic_label":3693,"target_id":3694,"target_proposition":3695,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":284,"rationale":3696,"indexable":181},556,"154287","Pero ya fue vicegobernador.",2162.56,2163.66,"eleicoes-presidenciais","Elecciones presidenciales","f46f771a-407f-4ddc-8e17-c2b04b284800","apoyar la candidatura de Paulo Brant a diputado federal","declara explícitamente 'ele é o meu pré-candidato a deputado federal'.",{"idx":3698,"utterance_id":3699,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3700,"start_s":3701,"end_s":3702,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},557,"154288","Es 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respeto a los demás competidores, pero es que Paulo Branche es un hombre público que merece mucho el apoyo de los habitantes de Minas Gerais.",2173.68,2180.02,"afirma que Paulo Brant 'merece muito o apoio dos mineiros'.",{"idx":3729,"utterance_id":3730,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3731,"start_s":3732,"end_s":3733,"word_count":271,"topic_slug":3692,"topic_label":3693,"target_id":3694,"target_proposition":3695,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":291,"rationale":3734,"indexable":269},562,"154293","Es un hombre honesto, sensible, y es todo lo que el Congreso necesita hoy.",2180.24,2185.46,"elogia el carácter y la cualificación del candidato como justificación del apoyo.",{"idx":3736,"utterance_id":3737,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3738,"start_s":3739,"end_s":3740,"word_count":460,"topic_slug":3692,"topic_label":3693,"target_id":3694,"target_proposition":3695,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":3741,"indexable":269},563,"154294","Mire, sé que la gente está atenta a la elección de presidente y gobernador, pero cuando pienso en los 513 diputados, cuando pienso en los 53 diputados federales de Minas, no tengo duda de que Minas Gerais necesita a un Paulo Branche allí.",2186.08,2197.7,"dice no tener duda de la necesidad de Paulo Brant entre los diputados.",{"idx":3743,"utterance_id":3744,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3745,"start_s":3746,"end_s":3747,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},564,"154295","De alguien que entiende de economía, que entiende de ingeniería, que entiende de Minas Gerais.",2198.32,2202,{"idx":3749,"utterance_id":3750,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3751,"start_s":3752,"end_s":3753,"word_count":407,"indexable":181},565,"154296","que es honesto, que no convierte la enmienda en un instrumento para su propia vida, que no tiene el compromiso de ser oposición por la oposición, situación por situación, y que entiende los desafíos de Minas Gerais.",2202.4,2215.02,{"idx":3755,"utterance_id":3756,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3757,"start_s":3758,"end_s":3759,"word_count":311,"indexable":181},566,"154297","Entonces, Paulo Brant y yo recorreremos juntos este proceso electoral, porque él es el precandidato a diputado federal.",2215.42,2222.2,{"idx":3761,"utterance_id":3762,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3763,"start_s":3764,"end_s":3765,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},567,"154298","Con respecto a las conversaciones, insisto, he conversado con varias personas.",2222.72,2226.06,{"idx":3767,"utterance_id":3768,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3769,"start_s":3770,"end_s":3771,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},568,"154299","Converso mucho con Jarbas Soares.",2226.36,2227.9,{"idx":3773,"utterance_id":3774,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3775,"start_s":3776,"end_s":3777,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},569,"154300","Jarbas y yo hablamos día sí, día no.",2229.34,2231.26,{"idx":3779,"utterance_id":3780,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3781,"start_s":3782,"end_s":3783,"word_count":242,"topic_slug":3784,"topic_label":3785,"target_id":3786,"target_proposition":3787,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":404,"rationale":3788,"indexable":269},570,"154301","En ese proceso de afiliación suyo al PSB, participé desde el momento inicial hasta la afiliación.",2232.3,2238.66,"partidos-e-eleicoes","Partidos y elecciones","ac9adaa8-f017-4f4c-bbc3-037125caff7f","apoyar la afiliación de Jarbas Soares al PSB","afirma haber participado desde el momento inicial hasta la afiliación al PSB.",{"idx":3790,"utterance_id":3791,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3792,"start_s":3793,"end_s":3794,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},571,"154302","Él estuvo recientemente en mi bar, nos gusta mucho conversar.",2240.7,2244.98,{"idx":3796,"utterance_id":3797,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3798,"start_s":3799,"end_s":3800,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},572,"154303","Y él es una de las personas que más sumará en este proceso.",2245.98,2248.94,{"idx":3802,"utterance_id":3803,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3804,"start_s":3805,"end_s":3806,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},573,"154304","El Jabas, en los años en que fue procurador general de justicia, con una sensibilidad profunda, asimiló un conocimiento profundo de Minas Gerais.",2249.92,2258.18,{"idx":3808,"utterance_id":3809,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3810,"start_s":3811,"end_s":3812,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},574,"154305","Habla bastante.",2259.84,2260.84,{"idx":3814,"utterance_id":3815,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3816,"start_s":3817,"end_s":3818,"word_count":317,"indexable":181},575,"154306","Habla con Falcão, exalcalde de Patos, que es un tipo al que creo que le tiene una gran admiración.",2260.96,2266.66,{"idx":3820,"utterance_id":3821,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3822,"start_s":3823,"end_s":3824,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},576,"154307","Entonces, siento que este juego parte de la siguiente premisa.",2267.36,2271.54,{"idx":3826,"utterance_id":3827,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3828,"start_s":3829,"end_s":3830,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},577,"154308","Está el gobierno.",2272.2,2273.3,{"idx":3832,"utterance_id":3833,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3834,"start_s":3835,"end_s":3836,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},578,"154309","Y el candidato al gobierno está definido.",2274.1,2276.04,{"idx":3838,"utterance_id":3839,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3840,"start_s":3841,"end_s":3842,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},579,"154310","Él dijo recientemente que tiene dos candidatos al Senado.",2276.78,2279.86,{"idx":3844,"utterance_id":3845,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3846,"start_s":3847,"end_s":3848,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},580,"154311","Uno ya tiene el mandato y el otro lo busca.",2280.16,2282.12,{"idx":3850,"utterance_id":3851,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3852,"start_s":3853,"end_s":3854,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},581,"154312","Y está en la búsqueda de su vice.",2282.48,2283.9,{"idx":3856,"utterance_id":3857,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3858,"start_s":3859,"end_s":3860,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},582,"154313","Esa es una composición.",2284.22,2285.06,{"idx":3862,"utterance_id":3863,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3864,"start_s":3865,"end_s":3866,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},583,"154314","¿Cuáles son los problemas que surgen a partir de eso?",2285.08,2287.76,{"idx":3868,"utterance_id":3869,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3870,"start_s":3871,"end_s":3872,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":3064,"topic_label":3065,"target_id":3873,"target_proposition":3874,"stance":266,"stance_confidence":779,"rationale":3875,"indexable":181},584,"154315","Existe la necesidad del palanque para Flávio.",2288.28,2290.52,"8a16683e-8ab5-4f8d-a763-cef9c5e4b65f","apoyar la candidatura de Flávio Bolsonaro","informa la existencia de la necesidad de un palanque para Flávio en el estado.",{"idx":3877,"utterance_id":3878,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3879,"start_s":3880,"end_s":3881,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},585,"154316","Y la ecuación aún no se ha cerrado de ese lado de la historia.",2290.54,2294.98,{"idx":3883,"utterance_id":3884,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3885,"start_s":3886,"end_s":3887,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},586,"154317","Y existe la innegable popularidad de otro senador, Cleitinho.",2295.68,2300.64,{"idx":3889,"utterance_id":3890,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3891,"start_s":3892,"end_s":3893,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},587,"154318","Entonces, esa es la ecuación de ese campo.",2300.76,2302.72,{"idx":3895,"utterance_id":3896,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3897,"start_s":3898,"end_s":3899,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},588,"154319","No formo parte de ese campo.",2303.44,2304.36,{"idx":3901,"utterance_id":3902,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3903,"start_s":3904,"end_s":3905,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},589,"154320","No estoy defendiendo... ¿Usted forma parte del campo de Pacheco, por ejemplo?",2305.1,2308.9,{"idx":3907,"utterance_id":3908,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3909,"start_s":3910,"end_s":3911,"word_count":242,"topic_slug":3912,"topic_label":3913,"target_id":3914,"target_proposition":3915,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":404,"rationale":3916,"indexable":269},590,"154321","Yo formo parte del campo de las personas que no coinciden en que este gobierno va bien.",2308.94,2312.7,"pesquisa-de-opiniao","Encuesta de opinión","17f34c17-7dfc-4ea4-bf99-cccf28d5506d","oponerse al gobierno actual","declara formar parte del campo que no está de acuerdo en que 'esse governo vai bem'.",{"idx":3918,"utterance_id":3919,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3920,"start_s":3921,"end_s":3922,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},591,"154322","Entonces, obviamente... hay otro campo por este lado.",2313.62,2316.64,{"idx":3924,"utterance_id":3925,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3926,"start_s":3927,"end_s":3928,"word_count":221,"topic_slug":3929,"topic_label":3930,"target_id":3931,"target_proposition":3932,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":3933,"indexable":181},592,"154323","Yo formo parte del campo no bolsonarista.",2316.96,2319.44,"identidade-politica","Identidad Política","2e96198f-7848-4078-988d-9e77d7111bef","posicionarse como no bolsonarista","afirma explícitamente 'faço parte do campo não bolsonarista'.",{"idx":3935,"utterance_id":3936,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3937,"start_s":3938,"end_s":3939,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},593,"154324","Eso es evidente.",2319.62,2320.3,{"idx":3941,"utterance_id":3942,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3943,"start_s":3944,"end_s":3945,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},594,"154325","Entonces, obviamente, hay un campo por este lado.",2321.06,2322.66,{"idx":3947,"utterance_id":3948,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3949,"start_s":3950,"end_s":3951,"word_count":254,"indexable":181},595,"154326","Pero también en ese campo, la discusión no puede ser solo quién será palanque de quién.",2322.82,2328.32,{"idx":3953,"utterance_id":3954,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3955,"start_s":3956,"end_s":3957,"word_count":305,"indexable":181},596,"154327","No es así como construimos una propuesta y no es así como convencemos al elector.",2329.18,2333.6,{"idx":3959,"utterance_id":3960,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3961,"start_s":3962,"end_s":3963,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},597,"154328","Si el elector de Minas percibe que la única razón de una candidatura es ayudar a un candidato a la presidencia, ahí no da alivio.",2334.34,2342,{"idx":3965,"utterance_id":3966,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3967,"start_s":3968,"end_s":3969,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},598,"154329","Eso no toca el corazón del elector.",2342.42,2343.8,{"idx":3971,"utterance_id":3972,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3973,"start_s":3974,"end_s":3975,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},599,"154330","El elector tiene que percibir la verdad en el proceso.",2344.24,2346.26,{"idx":3977,"utterance_id":3978,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3979,"start_s":3980,"end_s":3981,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},600,"154331","¿Cuál es la propuesta?",2346.56,2347.28,{"idx":3983,"utterance_id":3984,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3985,"start_s":3986,"end_s":3987,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},601,"154332","¿Qué cambia esto en mi vida?",2347.3,2348.36,{"idx":3989,"utterance_id":3990,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3991,"start_s":3992,"end_s":3993,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},602,"154333","¿Qué significa esto para Minas Gerais?",2348.54,2349.84,{"idx":3995,"utterance_id":3996,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":3997,"start_s":3998,"end_s":3999,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":3064,"topic_label":3065,"target_id":4000,"target_proposition":4001,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":291,"rationale":4002,"indexable":269},603,"154334","O el asunto es ese, o no estoy dispuesto a conversar.",2350.04,2352.68,"18655906-c49d-4ba7-92d6-8e136a6d2ba3","condicionar alianzas a la presentación de propuestas concretas para Minas Gerais","dice que solo acepta conversar si hay una propuesta concreta para Minas.",{"idx":4004,"utterance_id":4005,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4006,"start_s":4007,"end_s":4008,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},604,"154335","Usted comentó sobre Luiz Falcão, el expresidente de la AMM.",2353.94,2357.26,{"idx":4010,"utterance_id":4011,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4012,"start_s":4013,"end_s":4014,"word_count":364,"indexable":181},605,"154336","Él estuvo aquí en la entrevista en el Estádio de Minas y comentó sobre usted, hablando también de la posibilidad de que ustedes cierren una fórmula allí, uno u otro como vice.",2357.3,2367.64,{"idx":4016,"utterance_id":4017,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4018,"start_s":4019,"end_s":4020,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},606,"154337","Pero él afirmó que esa alianza no sería posible porque te ve como un candidato de izquierda.",2368.2,2373.98,{"idx":4022,"utterance_id":4023,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4024,"start_s":4025,"end_s":4026,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},607,"154338","¿Cómo ve usted esa afirmación de él?",2374.36,2376.38,{"idx":4028,"utterance_id":4029,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4030,"start_s":4031,"end_s":4032,"word_count":15,"indexable":181},608,"154339","Lo veo como un momento de su discurso, en el sentido de que él mismo tuvo con el presidente Michel Temer y con Baleia Rossi, negociando su incorporación al MDB.",2377.48,2386.3,{"idx":4034,"utterance_id":4035,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4036,"start_s":4037,"end_s":4038,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},609,"154340","Falcão sabe.",2387.82,2388.48,{"idx":4040,"utterance_id":4041,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4042,"start_s":4043,"end_s":4044,"word_count":233,"topic_slug":3929,"topic_label":3930,"target_id":4045,"target_proposition":4046,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":1810,"rationale":4047,"indexable":269},610,"154341","que no puede etiquetarme con esa etiqueta.",2389.28,2392.36,"5034382f-9f9e-4a0e-a37b-6a55de9f518d","evitar la rotulación ideológica y enfocarse en políticas públicas","rechaza ser etiquetado como 'candidato de esquerda'.",{"idx":4049,"utterance_id":4050,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4051,"start_s":4052,"end_s":4053,"word_count":354,"indexable":181},611,"154342","Sobre todo por el hecho de que tomamos un café juntos y debemos coincidir mucho más de lo que discrepamos en los asuntos de política pública, en los asuntos de gestión.",2393.16,2405.7,{"idx":4055,"utterance_id":4056,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4057,"start_s":4058,"end_s":4059,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},612,"154343","Él fue alcalde.",2406.16,2406.98,{"idx":4061,"utterance_id":4062,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4063,"start_s":4064,"end_s":4065,"word_count":364,"indexable":181},613,"154344","Si usted pone a Falcão y a mí aquí para conversar, en el momento de hablar de seguridad, sé cuánto está pagando a la policía militar allá en Patos.",2407.68,2413.8,{"idx":4067,"utterance_id":4068,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4069,"start_s":4070,"end_s":4071,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},614,"154345","Si hablamos de carreteras, sé lo que está sufriendo su región.",2415.08,2418,{"idx":4073,"utterance_id":4074,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4075,"start_s":4076,"end_s":4077,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},615,"154346","cuando hablemos de salud estaremos de acuerdo.",2419.38,2421.5,{"idx":4079,"utterance_id":4080,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4081,"start_s":4082,"end_s":4083,"word_count":242,"indexable":181},616,"154347","el problema que él enfrenta al ir a Patos no es ni de izquierda ni de derecha.",2422.32,2425.94,{"idx":4085,"utterance_id":4086,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4087,"start_s":4088,"end_s":4089,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},617,"154348","el médico que lo atiende a él y a cualquier persona de su ciudad.",2426.58,2430.5,{"idx":4091,"utterance_id":4092,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4093,"start_s":4094,"end_s":4095,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},618,"154349","nadie pregunta si es de izquierda o de derecha.",2431.4,2433.04,{"idx":4097,"utterance_id":4098,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4099,"start_s":4100,"end_s":4101,"word_count":311,"indexable":181},619,"154350","así que insisto: pasemos esa página que no le interesa a nadie y ocupémonos de resolver los problemas.",2433.46,2443.06,{"idx":4103,"utterance_id":4104,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4105,"start_s":4106,"end_s":4107,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},620,"154351","Lo considero una figura fundamental en la política de Minas, para mí.",2443.18,2447.76,{"idx":4109,"utterance_id":4110,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4111,"start_s":4112,"end_s":4113,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},621,"154352","él nunca va a escuchar ningún tipo de etiquetado, porque yo no voy a hacer eso.",2447.82,2453.28,{"idx":4115,"utterance_id":4116,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4117,"start_s":4118,"end_s":4119,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},622,"154353","Tengo cariño por él desde que era participante de Renova BR, una escuela que yo creé para ayudar a candidatos.",2454.2,2461.42,{"idx":4121,"utterance_id":4122,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4123,"start_s":4124,"end_s":4125,"word_count":43,"indexable":181},623,"154354","Recuerdo que entró en mi despacho por primera vez, cuando yo era concejal, para que habláramos mucho sobre su proceso electoral, que estaba empezando.",2461.92,2468.32,{"idx":4127,"utterance_id":4128,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4129,"start_s":4130,"end_s":4131,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},624,"154355","Así que, por él y por Lude —quiero nombrarla—, hay un respeto total.",2468.58,2472.88,{"idx":64,"utterance_id":4133,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4134,"start_s":4135,"end_s":4136,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},"154356","Siempre he sido solidario con ella, desde que ella pasó por lo que pasó.",2473.6,2477.16,{"idx":4138,"utterance_id":4139,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4140,"start_s":4141,"end_s":4142,"word_count":333,"indexable":181},626,"154357","sin querer rotular, sin querer etiquetar, pero recordando que ella es una mujer haciendo política y que merece, de nuestra parte, un profundo respeto.",2477.88,2485.14,{"idx":4144,"utterance_id":4145,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4146,"start_s":4147,"end_s":4148,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},627,"154358","Entonces, la pareja Falcão de mi parte solo recibirá elogios, aplausos y palabras de motivación e incentivo.",2485.16,2492.82,{"idx":4150,"utterance_id":4151,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4152,"start_s":4153,"end_s":4154,"word_count":424,"indexable":181},628,"154359","Gabriel, hablamos un poco sobre la relación del gobernador con la Asamblea y también con el Congreso Nacional, pero tuvimos un gobernador que fue muy criticado por los diputados precisamente por esa falta de diálogo.",2493.28,2503.44,{"idx":4156,"utterance_id":4157,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4158,"start_s":4159,"end_s":4160,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},629,"154360","¿Qué pretende hacer usted?",2503.64,2504.68,{"idx":4162,"utterance_id":4163,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4164,"start_s":4165,"end_s":4166,"word_count":317,"indexable":181},630,"154361","Mira, la Asamblea... Me parece un parlamento muy interesante, en el sentido de que los 77 diputados tienen un perfil muy regional.",2505.6,2516.92,{"idx":4168,"utterance_id":4169,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4170,"start_s":4171,"end_s":4172,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},631,"154362","Es raro que entre los diputados estatales haya quienes representen colectivos, y son casi distritalizados.",2518.26,2526.32,{"idx":4174,"utterance_id":4175,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":329,"start_s":4176,"end_s":4177,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},632,"154363",2527.16,2528.08,{"idx":4179,"utterance_id":4180,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4181,"start_s":4182,"end_s":4183,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},633,"154364","El segundo punto es que la Asamblea posee un ambiente de tranquilidad permanente.",2528.2,2532.46,{"idx":4185,"utterance_id":4186,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4187,"start_s":4188,"end_s":4189,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},634,"154365","El perfil de los diputados estatales, que se va manteniendo y renovando, va creando una cultura de acuerdos y negociaciones que ya llegan al pleno prácticamente resueltos.",2533,2544.36,{"idx":4191,"utterance_id":4192,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4193,"start_s":4194,"end_s":4195,"word_count":317,"indexable":181},635,"154366","Y ella creó una cultura presidencialista de impulsar hacia la presidencia de la cámara a personas que tienen un perfil de mucha armonía.",2545.18,2552.58,{"idx":4197,"utterance_id":4198,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4199,"start_s":4200,"end_s":4201,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},636,"154367","Quiero usar este espacio para elogiar a mi correligionario, Tadeu Martins Leite, quien ha tenido un papel brillante en la conducción de la renegociación de la deuda.",2552.78,2562.46,{"idx":4203,"utterance_id":4204,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4205,"start_s":4206,"end_s":4207,"word_count":479,"indexable":181},637,"154368","que avanzó mucho en la vida del próximo gobernador, que tenía todo el potencial para aspirar a ese cargo y que cuenta con mi respeto en su decisión de ir al Tribunal de Cuentas del Estado, una institución que ayuda muchísimo a Minas Gerais.",2563.04,2578.66,{"idx":4209,"utterance_id":4210,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4211,"start_s":4212,"end_s":4213,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},638,"154369","Hablo con varios consejeros: Agostinho, Durval, personas cualificadas, muchos ex presidentes de la Asamblea.",2579.14,2585.4,{"idx":4215,"utterance_id":4216,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4217,"start_s":4218,"end_s":4219,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},639,"154370","órganos que necesitan un diálogo constante por parte del gobernador.",2592.36,2595.02,{"idx":4221,"utterance_id":4222,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4223,"start_s":4224,"end_s":4225,"word_count":354,"indexable":181},640,"154371","Ayuda en esos momentos ser un profesor de derecho constitucional que comprende la importancia de esas instituciones, las cuales no pueden toparse, en la sucesión de gobernadores, con alguien que quiera enfrentarlas.",2595.22,2605.72,{"idx":4227,"utterance_id":4228,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4229,"start_s":4230,"end_s":4231,"word_count":202,"topic_slug":4232,"topic_label":4233,"target_id":4234,"target_proposition":4235,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":4236,"indexable":181},641,"154372","Soy un parlamentarista.",2606.5,2608.3,"governanca-politica","Gobernanza política","51bb45c8-f781-4e21-a4a9-399776c4f4f1","adoptar el régimen parlamentario en Brasil","declara ser parlamentarista y que Brasil debería tener primer ministro.",{"idx":4238,"utterance_id":4239,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4240,"start_s":4241,"end_s":4242,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},642,"154373","Si fuera por mí, Minas tendría primer 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presidente e ignora en gran medida la conformación del parlamento.",2619.48,2630.14,{"idx":4266,"utterance_id":4267,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4268,"start_s":4269,"end_s":4270,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},647,"154378","La regla es muy clara.",2630.88,2631.76,{"idx":4272,"utterance_id":4273,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4274,"start_s":4275,"end_s":4276,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},648,"154379","Independencia del parlamento.",2632.04,2633.32,{"idx":4278,"utterance_id":4279,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4280,"start_s":4281,"end_s":4282,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},649,"154380","No vas a ver a un gobernador que quiera meter la cuchara para nombrar al presidente de la Asamblea.",2634.16,2637.46,{"idx":4284,"utterance_id":4285,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4286,"start_s":4287,"end_s":4288,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},650,"154381","Por favor, siéntanse a 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convencer.",2649.42,2654.78,{"idx":4314,"utterance_id":4315,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4316,"start_s":4317,"end_s":4318,"word_count":261,"topic_slug":4319,"topic_label":4320,"target_id":4321,"target_proposition":4322,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":4323,"indexable":269},655,"154386","Así que respeto la independencia de la Asamblea, respeto la presidencia de la Asamblea, y el gobernador necesita un momento permanente de conversación personal con los diputados, sin tercerizar esa función.",2655.2,2667.1,"governo-e-parlamento","Gobierno y Parlamento","570c1a2b-5621-4709-94da-8e3aa7478856","mantener relación de cooperación con la Asamblea Legislativa","defiende un diálogo personal constante con los diputados, sin tercerizar.",{"idx":4325,"utterance_id":4326,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4327,"start_s":4328,"end_s":4329,"word_count":233,"topic_slug":4319,"topic_label":4320,"target_id":4321,"target_proposition":4322,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":291,"rationale":4330,"indexable":269},656,"154387","Creo que eso fue un error de este gobierno.",2667.72,2669.58,"critica el error del gobierno que tercerizó la función política.",{"idx":4332,"utterance_id":4333,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4334,"start_s":4335,"end_s":4336,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},657,"154388","El gobierno tercerizó la función política.",2670.34,2672.28,{"idx":4338,"utterance_id":4339,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4340,"start_s":4341,"end_s":4342,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},658,"154389","Pasó por sobresaltos enormes en varios momentos y creó una cultura, en este momento final, de persecución de quienes no estuvieran 100% alineados con el gobierno.",2672.74,2684.88,{"idx":4344,"utterance_id":4345,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4346,"start_s":4347,"end_s":4348,"word_count":215,"topic_slug":4349,"topic_label":4350,"target_id":4351,"target_proposition":4352,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":4353,"indexable":181},659,"154390","La oposición es muy importante, gente.",2685.66,2687.64,"democracia-e-discurso","Democracia y discurso","624466b2-a04d-4cbb-83db-6c1f2abce10a","valorar y escuchar a la oposición parlamentaria","afirma que la oposición es importante para el buen funcionamiento del gobierno.",{"idx":4355,"utterance_id":4356,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4357,"start_s":4358,"end_s":4359,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},660,"154391","Un gobernante necesita entender cuánto cuenta la oposición para que un gobierno 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escuchar.",2707.52,2710.28,{"idx":4379,"utterance_id":4380,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4381,"start_s":4382,"end_s":4383,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},664,"154395","Escuchar mucho lo que quieren los diputados.",2710.94,2712.54,{"idx":4385,"utterance_id":4386,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4387,"start_s":4388,"end_s":4389,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},665,"154396","Están trayendo las demandas de la región.",2712.88,2714.7,{"idx":4391,"utterance_id":4392,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4393,"start_s":4389,"end_s":4394,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},666,"154397","853 municipios, 853 alcaldes y numerosos concejales.",2719.26,{"idx":4396,"utterance_id":4397,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4398,"start_s":4399,"end_s":4400,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},667,"154398","El diputado estatal es un canal para todo 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días.",2727.2,2733.7,{"idx":4417,"utterance_id":4418,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4419,"start_s":4420,"end_s":4421,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},670,"154401","Eso no es gestión, eso es campaña.",2733.88,2735.9,{"idx":61,"utterance_id":4423,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4424,"start_s":4425,"end_s":4426,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},"154402","Eso es propio de la máquina pública.",2736.84,2738,{"idx":4428,"utterance_id":4429,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4430,"start_s":4431,"end_s":4432,"word_count":399,"indexable":181},672,"154403","Lo que quiero es que, en asociación con los ayuntamientos de las ciudades polo, se dé la dilución de una estructura que está muy concentrada en la ciudad administrativa, en cargos y funciones, hacia las localidades.",2738.94,2749.86,{"idx":4434,"utterance_id":4435,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4436,"start_s":4437,"end_s":4438,"word_count":317,"indexable":181},673,"154404","A la manera que tienes en ciudades como Belo Horizonte, que tiene 10 regiones, que logran resolver sus problemas locales.",2750,2755.98,{"idx":4440,"utterance_id":4441,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4442,"start_s":4443,"end_s":4444,"word_count":305,"indexable":181},674,"154405","Así que, en asociación con los diputados y con esos gobernadores regionales, el problema en el terreno se resolverá más fácilmente.",2756.28,2762.38,{"idx":4446,"utterance_id":4447,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4448,"start_s":4449,"end_s":4450,"word_count":242,"indexable":181},675,"154406","Usted fue colega del actual gobernador, Matheus Simões, en la Cámara Municipal de Belo Horizonte.",2762.56,2767.26,{"idx":4452,"utterance_id":4453,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4454,"start_s":4455,"end_s":4456,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},676,"154407","Sí.",2767.48,2767.62,{"idx":4458,"utterance_id":4459,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4460,"start_s":4461,"end_s":4462,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},677,"154408","Llegó a hacer algunas críticas hacia usted durante estos últimos meses, principalmente cuando usted puso su candidatura en entredicho.",2767.8,2775.38,{"idx":4464,"utterance_id":4465,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4466,"start_s":4467,"end_s":4468,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},678,"154409","¿De veras?",2775.46,2775.64,{"idx":4470,"utterance_id":4471,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4472,"start_s":4473,"end_s":4474,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},679,"154410","Lo 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que le extrañaba el hecho de que el MDB me impulsara, dado que Tadeuzinho... Pensaría que sería mejor que fuera Tadeuzinho, que era un nombre perfecto?",2780.04,2787.78,{"idx":4505,"utterance_id":4506,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4507,"start_s":4508,"end_s":4509,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},685,"154416","Con toda la razón.",2787.8,2788.54,{"idx":4511,"utterance_id":4512,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4513,"start_s":4514,"end_s":4515,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},686,"154417","No lo considero una crítica.",2788.58,2789.48,{"idx":4517,"utterance_id":4518,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4519,"start_s":4520,"end_s":4521,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},687,"154418","Tadeuzinho es mucho mejor que yo, no tengo duda de eso.",2790.42,2793.64,{"idx":4523,"utterance_id":4524,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4525,"start_s":4526,"end_s":4527,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},688,"154419","Pero usted tiene... ¿Cuál es su diálogo con él ahora?",2793.66,2797.06,{"idx":4529,"utterance_id":4530,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4531,"start_s":4532,"end_s":4533,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},689,"154420","¿Cómo ve usted esta campaña?",2797.08,2798.86,{"idx":4535,"utterance_id":4536,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4537,"start_s":4538,"end_s":4539,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},690,"154421","¿Ustedes conversan?",2799.06,2799.98,{"idx":4541,"utterance_id":4542,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4543,"start_s":4544,"end_s":4545,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},691,"154422","Sí, fue su cumpleaños ahora, le mandé las felicitaciones.",2800.38,2802.82,{"idx":4547,"utterance_id":4548,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4549,"start_s":4550,"end_s":4551,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},692,"154423","Somos personas civilizadas, usamos cubiertos, hablamos portugués, respetamos a la 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residencia.",2952.04,2958.6,{"idx":4727,"utterance_id":4728,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4729,"start_s":4730,"end_s":4731,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},722,"154453","El mundo está pasando por una locura.",2959.78,2962.74,{"idx":4733,"utterance_id":4734,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4735,"start_s":4736,"end_s":4737,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":4738,"topic_label":4739,"target_id":4740,"target_proposition":4741,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":277,"rationale":4742,"indexable":269},723,"154454","Necesitamos recordar a los electores que ser adversario no es odiarse, no es querer matarse, no es dar buenos días ni buenas noches.",2963.34,2970.64,"democracia-e-cultura-politica","Democracia y Cultura Política","66f87408-51e8-4937-9555-eaa5df9455a6","practicar diálogo y respeto con adversarios políticos","dice 'Nós precisamos lembrar' y define al adversario no como odio.",{"idx":4744,"utterance_id":4745,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4746,"start_s":4747,"end_s":4748,"word_count":294,"topic_slug":4738,"topic_label":4739,"target_id":4740,"target_proposition":4741,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":4749,"indexable":269},724,"154455","No tengo ningún problema en presentarme a una elección con alguien con quien he convivido.",2971.12,2975.26,"declara no tener problema en disputar una elección con quien convivió.",{"idx":4751,"utterance_id":4752,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4753,"start_s":4754,"end_s":4755,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},725,"154456","Además, hablo con Matheus, hablo con Rodrigo Pacheco.",2975.36,2978.68,{"idx":4757,"utterance_id":4758,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4759,"start_s":4760,"end_s":4761,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},726,"154457","Converso con 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amigo.",3079.68,3082.64,{"idx":4931,"utterance_id":4932,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4933,"start_s":4934,"end_s":4935,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},754,"154485","Porque después de que te encuentras con esa persona en el ambiente social, el tipo tiene madre, tiene familia, no necesitas agredir a la gente así.",3083.34,3091.44,{"idx":4937,"utterance_id":4938,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4939,"start_s":4940,"end_s":4941,"word_count":447,"indexable":181},755,"154486","Mira, pasé por episodios en la Cámara de Diputados en los que fui muy agresivo con la gente, y hoy estoy bien con ellos y tal, hablamos todo, y ellos dicen, hombre, lo que más me dolió fue que mis hijos escucharon aquello.",3092.12,3102.5,{"idx":50,"utterance_id":4943,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4944,"start_s":4945,"end_s":4946,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},"154487","Tenemos que pensar en 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verdad.",3132.86,3134.6,{"idx":4996,"utterance_id":4997,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":4998,"start_s":4999,"end_s":5000,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},765,"154496","Y empecé temprano.",3135.06,3135.94,{"idx":5002,"utterance_id":5003,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5004,"start_s":5005,"end_s":5006,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},766,"154497","Te equivocas demasiado.",3135.96,3137.36,{"idx":5008,"utterance_id":5009,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5010,"start_s":5011,"end_s":5012,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},767,"154498","Pero no se puede seguir equivocándose para siempre.",3138.12,3139.48,{"idx":5014,"utterance_id":5015,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5016,"start_s":5017,"end_s":5018,"word_count":254,"indexable":181},768,"154499","Entonces, hay gente con la que tengo más diálogo en esta historia, hay gente con la que no lo tengo.",3140.12,3145,{"idx":5020,"utterance_id":5021,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5022,"start_s":5023,"end_s":5024,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},769,"154500","Y que vayan al frente, ¿sabes?, con propuestas, con ideas, de verdad.",3146.96,3151.18,{"idx":5026,"utterance_id":5027,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5028,"start_s":5029,"end_s":5030,"word_count":233,"indexable":181},770,"154501","¿Cuántas veces ustedes me preguntan: '¿es candidato en serio?'",3151.58,3154.32,{"idx":5032,"utterance_id":5033,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5034,"start_s":5035,"end_s":5036,"word_count":209,"topic_slug":3692,"topic_label":3693,"target_id":5037,"target_proposition":5038,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":2743,"rationale":5039,"indexable":181},771,"154502","Tantas veces responderé: lo soy.",3154.94,3156.24,"010ab957-46ef-44c8-a5ab-958cf4c39388","postularse a cargos electivos","responde directamente 'sou' a la pregunta sobre ser 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No, pero hay mil ideas.",3501.26,3505.42,{"idx":5639,"utterance_id":5640,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5641,"start_s":5642,"end_s":5643,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},869,"154600","Mil ideas.",3506.04,3506.44,{"idx":1618,"utterance_id":5645,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5646,"start_s":5647,"end_s":5648,"word_count":244,"topic_slug":5649,"topic_label":5650,"target_id":5651,"target_proposition":5652,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":5653,"indexable":269},"154601","Se va a empezar por la propia plaza, que necesita estar más viva.",3506.46,3508.6,"desenvolvimento-urbano-e-cultura","Desarrollo urbano y cultura","4d111614-5457-482d-91c4-aa50bdd39a2e","invertir en revitalización urbana y equipamientos culturales","propone que la plaza sea 'mais viva' y que el coreto tenga funciones.",{"idx":5655,"utterance_id":5656,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5657,"start_s":5658,"end_s":5659,"word_count":215,"indexable":181},871,"154602","El 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Porque hubo un proyecto que fue enviado; Zema presentó un proyecto para poder abrirlo para que la gente pudiera alquilar el espacio para eventos privados.",3583.52,3594.52,"b615f2c6-a62c-4517-add7-40eefc09bedc","permitir el alquiler del Palácio da Liberdade para eventos privados","contra","se opone directamente al proyecto de Zema de abrir para alquiler ('Jamais').",{"idx":5796,"utterance_id":5797,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5798,"start_s":5799,"end_s":5800,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},893,"154624","No, no, no.",3594.54,3595.64,{"idx":5802,"utterance_id":5803,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5804,"start_s":5805,"end_s":5806,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},894,"154625","Bodas allí, jamás.",3595.66,3596.6,{"idx":5808,"utterance_id":5809,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5810,"start_s":5811,"end_s":5812,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},895,"154626","Jamás.",3596.68,3597.22,{"idx":5814,"utterance_id":5815,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5816,"start_s":5817,"end_s":5818,"word_count":317,"indexable":181},896,"154627","Jamás, porque el balcón desde donde Tancredo reafirmó el compromiso con la democracia no es lugar para que una novia se saque fotos.",3598.16,3605.3,{"idx":5820,"utterance_id":5821,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5822,"start_s":5823,"end_s":5824,"word_count":311,"indexable":181},897,"154628","Por eso a veces vemos a un gobernador dar una entrevista sin saber si existió la dictadura.",3606.28,3611.8,{"idx":5826,"utterance_id":5827,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5828,"start_s":5829,"end_s":5830,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},898,"154629","Es porque quizás él no sepa para qué sirve ese balcón.",3612.66,3614.88,{"idx":5832,"utterance_id":5833,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5834,"start_s":5835,"end_s":5836,"word_count":317,"indexable":181},899,"154630","Ese balcón es para que alguien llegue y grite para todo el mundo que el primer compromiso de Minas es con la libertad.",3615.48,3620.6,{"idx":5838,"utterance_id":5839,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5840,"start_s":5841,"end_s":5842,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},900,"154631","Y nada más.",3620.98,3621.2,{"idx":5844,"utterance_id":5845,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5846,"start_s":5847,"end_s":5848,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":5849,"topic_label":5850,"target_id":5851,"target_proposition":5852,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":2702,"rationale":5853,"indexable":269},901,"154632","No es para que alguien se saque fotos de novia.",3622.74,3624.78,"gestao-publica-e-administracao-estadual","Gestión pública y administración estatal","394b9cd1-9d5e-4bce-bf97-64f5117d1ce4","preservar la dignidad e institucionalidad del cargo de gobernador","afirma que el cargo del gobernador debe ser respetado, comparándolo con el presidencial.",{"idx":5855,"utterance_id":5856,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5857,"start_s":5858,"end_s":5859,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},902,"154633","No lo es. Y eso lo digo aquí sin miedo de perder votos.",3625.26,3627.58,{"idx":5861,"utterance_id":5862,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5863,"start_s":5864,"end_s":5865,"word_count":305,"indexable":181},903,"154634","Porque si es para ser el gobernador de los eventos en el Palacio, es mejor ser candidato a promotor de eventos.",3627.98,3632.48,{"idx":5867,"utterance_id":5868,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5869,"start_s":5870,"end_s":5871,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},904,"154635","Aquí tenemos que respetar a Minas Gerais.",3633.54,3636.32,{"idx":5873,"utterance_id":5874,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5875,"start_s":5876,"end_s":5877,"word_count":254,"indexable":181},905,"154636","El cargo de gobernador, gente, sólo no es más importante que el de presidente de la república.",3636.94,3640.44,{"idx":5879,"utterance_id":5880,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5881,"start_s":5882,"end_s":5883,"word_count":305,"topic_slug":4738,"topic_label":4739,"target_id":5884,"target_proposition":5885,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":404,"rationale":5886,"indexable":269},906,"154637","Y si no enseñamos eso a nuestros electores, a nuestros ciudadanos, Minas empieza a derretirse.",3641.2,3646.16,"ba3aa424-6f1b-4be2-b73e-6743742075eb","educar a los electores sobre la importancia de las instituciones estatales","dice 'se a gente não ensina isso para os nossos eleitores' como recomendación.",{"idx":5888,"utterance_id":5889,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5890,"start_s":5891,"end_s":5892,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},907,"154638","¿Puedo cerrar con una recomendación?",3646.9,3648.14,{"idx":5894,"utterance_id":5895,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5896,"start_s":5897,"end_s":5898,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},908,"154639","Por favor.",3648.16,3649.52,{"idx":5900,"utterance_id":5901,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5902,"start_s":5903,"end_s":5904,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},909,"154640","Yo leo, ¿no?",3649.68,3650.14,{"idx":5906,"utterance_id":5907,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5908,"start_s":5909,"end_s":5910,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},910,"154641","Ustedes saben, me gusta.",3650.16,3651.12,{"idx":5912,"utterance_id":5913,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5914,"start_s":5915,"end_s":5916,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},911,"154642","Mitología de la mineridad.",3651.92,3653.34,{"idx":5918,"utterance_id":5919,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5920,"start_s":5921,"end_s":5922,"word_count":254,"indexable":181},912,"154643","El imaginario mineiro en la vida política y cultural de Brasil de Maria Arminda de Nascimento Arruda.",3654,3660.36,{"idx":5924,"utterance_id":5925,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5926,"start_s":5927,"end_s":5928,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},913,"154644","De Nascimento Arruda.",3660.52,3661.34,{"idx":5930,"utterance_id":5931,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5932,"start_s":5933,"end_s":5934,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},914,"154645","¿Está aquí, no?",3661.36,3661.78,{"idx":5936,"utterance_id":5937,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5938,"start_s":5939,"end_s":5940,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},915,"154646","¿La cámara está allí?",3661.82,3662.42,{"idx":5942,"utterance_id":5943,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5944,"start_s":5945,"end_s":5946,"word_count":221,"indexable":181},916,"154647","Maria, déjame contarte una cosa.",3664.32,3665.92,{"idx":5948,"utterance_id":5949,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5950,"start_s":5951,"end_s":5952,"word_count":305,"topic_slug":5953,"topic_label":5954,"target_id":5955,"target_proposition":5956,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":291,"rationale":5957,"indexable":269},917,"154648","Tu tesis doctoral debería ser obligatoria para cualquier precandidato, cualquier persona que quiera ser política en este Estado.",3666.06,3672.6,"candidaturas-e-filiacao","Candidaturas y Afiliación","53650fb0-879b-4a40-92ba-73f4e0964de9","exigir capacitación sobre historia y cultura de Minas para precandidatos","afirma que la tesis 'deveria ser obrigatória para qualquer pré-candidato'.",{"idx":5959,"utterance_id":5960,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5961,"start_s":5962,"end_s":5963,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},918,"154649","Porque ese mito que es Minas, no solo para nosotros, sino para Brasil, tiene raíces, explicaciones sensacionales.",3673.18,3679.84,{"idx":5965,"utterance_id":5966,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5967,"start_s":5968,"end_s":5969,"word_count":256,"indexable":181},919,"154650","Y soy realmente un estudioso de aquello que me propongo a decir.",3680.16,3683.08,{"idx":5971,"utterance_id":5972,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5973,"start_s":5974,"end_s":5975,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},920,"154651","Mineiros, tomen nota de este consejo para que nos respetemos más.",3684.12,3687.38,{"idx":5977,"utterance_id":5978,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5979,"start_s":5980,"end_s":5981,"word_count":532,"topic_slug":5982,"topic_label":5983,"target_id":5984,"target_proposition":5985,"stance":276,"stance_confidence":537,"rationale":5986,"indexable":269},921,"154652","Para que nos valoremos más, para que entendamos que no somos un lugar cualquiera en el planeta; tenemos historia, tenemos símbolos, tenemos grandeza, y hace falta lustrar todo eso con mucho orgullo, con mucho respeto, y ese será mi papel en esta elección: llevar a Minas con todo mi corazón.",3687.4,3707.18,"cultura-e-identidade-regional","Cultura y Identidad Regional","7cda3ee3-0117-4304-8271-bccc555a56e5","valorar y promover la historia y los símbolos de Minas durante la campaña","declara 'esse vai ser meu papel nessa eleição, carregar Minas'.",{"idx":5988,"utterance_id":5989,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5990,"start_s":5991,"end_s":5992,"word_count":244,"indexable":181},922,"154653","Gabriel, muchas gracias por tu presencia aquí en el Estado de Minas.",3707.2,3710.12,{"idx":5994,"utterance_id":5995,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":5996,"start_s":5997,"end_s":5998,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},923,"154654","Te agradecemos mucho.",3710.14,3713.02,{"idx":6000,"utterance_id":6001,"speaker_name":176,"speaker_slug":177,"text":6002,"start_s":6003,"end_s":6004,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},924,"154655","Silvia, muchas 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