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boa noite pra você. -> Hola, buenas noches para usted.",20.8,22.82,5,{"idx":186,"utterance_id":187,"speaker_name":174,"text":188,"start_s":189,"end_s":190,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},2,"102382","O Canal Livre de hoje segue na nossa cobertura especial das eleições. -> El Canal Livre de hoy continúa con nuestra cobertura especial de las elecciones.",23.34,28.22,12,{"idx":193,"utterance_id":194,"speaker_name":174,"text":195,"start_s":196,"end_s":197,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},3,"102383","E vamos colocar nossa marca registrada no ar? -> ¿Y ponemos nuestra marca registrada al aire?",28.58,30.96,8,{"idx":200,"utterance_id":201,"speaker_name":174,"text":202,"start_s":203,"end_s":204,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},4,"102384","Você escuta essa trilha e já sabe, eleições é aqui na Band. -> Usted escucha esa sintonía y ya sabe: las elecciones son aquí en Band.",31.98,36.6,{"idx":184,"utterance_id":206,"speaker_name":174,"text":207,"start_s":208,"end_s":209,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},"102385","Hoje recebemos um dos nomes mais experientes da política nacional, com cargos no executivo e no legislativo. -> Hoy recibimos a uno de los nombres más experimentados de la política nacional, con cargos en el ejecutivo y en el legislativo.",37.66,44.34,17,{"idx":212,"utterance_id":213,"speaker_name":174,"text":214,"start_s":215,"end_s":216,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},6,"102386","Foi aqui na Band, no debate de 1989, que ele despontou para a vida pública. -> Fue aquí en Band, en el debate de 1989, donde él irrumpió en la vida pública.",44.86,50.98,15,{"idx":219,"utterance_id":220,"speaker_name":174,"text":221,"start_s":222,"end_s":223,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},7,"102387","E quase 40 anos depois, tenta mais uma vez concorrer ao Palácio do Planalto. -> Y casi 40 años después, intenta una vez más postularse al Planalto (Palacio 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explícita.",true,{"idx":4,"utterance_id":246,"speaker_name":174,"text":247,"start_s":248,"end_s":249,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},"102390","Está conosco esta noite o ex-governador de Goiás e pré-candidato a presidente pelo PSD, Ronaldo Caiado. -> Está con nosotros esta noche el exgobernador de Goiás y precandidato a la presidencia por el PSD, Ronaldo Caiado.",66.68,73.38,{"idx":251,"utterance_id":252,"speaker_name":174,"text":253,"start_s":254,"end_s":255,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},11,"102391","Muito obrigada, governador, pela presença com a gente. -> Muchas gracias, gobernador, por su presencia con nosotros.",73.8,76.04,{"idx":191,"utterance_id":257,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":258,"start_s":259,"end_s":260,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},"102392","Muito agradeço, Adriana. -> Muchas gracias, 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deputado federal, senador, governador e agora sim, com muita experiência, voltando para o debate, se Deus quiser. -> De allí fui a ser diputado federal, senador, gobernador y ahora sí, con mucha experiencia, volviendo al debate, si Dios quiere.",95,103.58,21,{"idx":236,"utterance_id":280,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":281,"start_s":282,"end_s":283,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},"102396","ganhando a seleção em 2026. -> ganando la selección en 2026.",104.02,106.16,{"idx":210,"utterance_id":285,"speaker_name":174,"text":286,"start_s":287,"end_s":288,"word_count":15,"indexable":177},"102397","E o governador já apresentou quem está comigo aqui nessa bancada do Canal Livre, ele sempre, Fernando Mitri, o também jornalista Felipe Vieira e o cientista político Fernando Schiller participam dessa entrevista. -> Y el gobernador ya presentó quién está conmigo en esta bancada de Canal Livre: él, como siempre, Fernando Mitri, el también periodista Felipe Vieira y el politólogo Fernando Schiller participan en esta entrevista.",106.26,117.4,{"idx":290,"utterance_id":291,"speaker_name":174,"text":292,"start_s":293,"end_s":294,"word_count":295,"indexable":177},18,"102398","Governador, antes da gente começar, eu quero já... Pedir para o senhor acompanhar com a gente os números da pesquisa do levantamento meio ideia divulgado essa semana, dia 6 de maio. -> Gobernador, antes de que comencemos, quiero ya... pedirle que acompañe con nosotros los números de la encuesta del sondeo meio ideia divulgada esta semana, el 6 de mayo.",117.46,127.46,31,{"idx":297,"utterance_id":298,"speaker_name":174,"text":299,"start_s":300,"end_s":301,"word_count":297,"indexable":177},19,"102399","Na pesquisa do dia 6 de maio, o presidente Lula tinha 40% das intenções de voto no primeiro turno. -> En la encuesta del 6 de mayo, el presidente Lula tenía el 40% de las intenciones de voto en primera vuelta.",127.88,133.78,{"idx":303,"utterance_id":304,"speaker_name":174,"text":305,"start_s":306,"end_s":307,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},20,"102400","E agora, na pesquisa que saiu essa semana, Lula está com 38,5%. -> Y ahora, en la encuesta que salió esta semana, Lula está con 38,5%.",134.14,138.98,{"idx":278,"utterance_id":309,"speaker_name":174,"text":310,"start_s":311,"end_s":312,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},"102401","O senador Flávio Bolsonaro caiu de 36 para 31,5%. -> El senador Flávio Bolsonaro cayó de 36 a 31,5%.",139.14,144.42,{"idx":59,"utterance_id":314,"speaker_name":174,"text":315,"start_s":316,"end_s":317,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},"102402","E na sequência, então, aparece o senhor, Ronaldo Caiado, com 5,5%. -> Y en la secuencia, entonces, aparece usted, Ronaldo Caiado, con 5,5%.",144.6,149.22,{"idx":21,"utterance_id":319,"speaker_name":174,"text":320,"start_s":321,"end_s":322,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},"102403","Romeu Zema com 2,4% e Renan Santos com 2,1%. -> Romeu Zema con 2,4% y Renan Santos con 2,1%.",149.3,154.94,{"idx":324,"utterance_id":325,"speaker_name":174,"text":326,"start_s":327,"end_s":328,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},24,"102404","Governador, essa queda do senador Flávio Bolsonaro registrada pelo Instituto IDEA também já foi registrada pelo último levantamento da Atafolha. -> Gobernador, esa caída del senador Flávio Bolsonaro registrada por el Instituto IDEA también fue registrada ya por el último sondeo de Atafolha.",155.32,164.48,{"idx":330,"utterance_id":331,"speaker_name":174,"text":332,"start_s":333,"end_s":334,"word_count":335,"indexable":177},25,"102405","O que eu queria perguntar para o senhor é por que, apesar da denúncia contra o senador de envolvimento com o banqueiro Daniel Vurcaro, inclusive tendo visitado o banqueiro já com tornezeleira eletrônica, uma denúncia grave, ainda não totalmente esclarecida, Por que, mesmo com essa denúncia e com a queda de Flávio, o eleitor não olhou para o nome do senhor, nem para o de Romeu Zema, que nas pesquisas ficaram praticamente estagnados? -> Lo que quería preguntarle es por qué, a pesar de la denuncia contra el senador por supuesto involucramiento con el banquero Daniel Vurcaro, incluso habiendo visitado al banquero ya con tobillera electrónica, una denuncia grave, aún no totalmente aclarada, ¿por qué, incluso con esa denuncia y con la caída de Flávio, el elector no miró hacia su nombre ni al de Romeu Zema, que en las encuestas quedaron prácticamente estancados?",164.86,189.7,73,{"idx":9,"utterance_id":337,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":338,"start_s":339,"end_s":340,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":237,"topic_label":238,"target_id":341,"target_proposition":342,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":343,"indexable":244},"102406","Primeiro, Adriana, pelo fato de que nós não somos conhecidos. -> Primero, Adriana, por el hecho de que nosotros no somos conocidos.",191.24,195.2,"e3879291-b472-468d-968f-5ba74e487624","aumentar el conocimiento de los electores sobre los candidatos","declara 'sou desconhecido' como explicación sobre el desempeño electoral.",{"idx":345,"utterance_id":346,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":347,"start_s":348,"end_s":349,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},27,"102407","Eu sou desconhecido por quase 50% da população. -> Soy desconocido para casi el 50% de la población.",195.6,199.08,{"idx":43,"utterance_id":351,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":352,"start_s":353,"end_s":354,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},"102408","Primeiro ponto. -> Primer punto.",200.08,200.8,{"idx":356,"utterance_id":357,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":358,"start_s":359,"end_s":360,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},29,"102409","Segundo, ninguém tem aí um recall de quem está na presidência da República. -> Segundo, nadie tiene ahí un \"recall\" de quién está en la presidencia de la República.",201.4,207.56,{"idx":362,"utterance_id":363,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":364,"start_s":365,"end_s":366,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},30,"102410","que é o Lula e o PT. -> que es Lula y el PT.",208.7,209.88,{"idx":295,"utterance_id":368,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":369,"start_s":370,"end_s":371,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},"102411","há cinco mandatos. -> desde hace cinco mandatos.",210.02,211.06,{"idx":15,"utterance_id":373,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":374,"start_s":375,"end_s":376,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},"102412","Ora, nós não podemos negar aqui o prestígio do ex-presidente Jair Bolsonaro. -> Bueno, no podemos negar aquí el prestigio del expresidente Jair Bolsonaro.",212.06,217.82,{"idx":32,"utterance_id":378,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":379,"start_s":380,"end_s":381,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},"102413","Na realidade. -> En realidad.",219.28,220,{"idx":383,"utterance_id":384,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":385,"start_s":386,"end_s":387,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},34,"102414","Então, o que é que é o objetivo do eleitor neste momento? -> Entonces, ¿cuál es el objetivo del elector en este momento?",221.28,225.32,{"idx":389,"utterance_id":390,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":391,"start_s":392,"end_s":393,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":237,"topic_label":238,"target_id":394,"target_proposition":395,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":397,"indexable":177},35,"102415","Ele quer derrotar o Lula. -> Quiere derrotar a Lula.",226.66,228.62,"40f916e7-064a-4924-a75c-3d377ebfa6d4","derrotar al PT",0.78,"afirma que el objetivo del elector es derrotar al PT, sin llamar a la acción propia.",{"idx":267,"utterance_id":399,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":400,"start_s":401,"end_s":402,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},"102416","Esse é o objetivo. -> Ese es el objetivo.",229.96,230.8,{"idx":404,"utterance_id":405,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":406,"start_s":407,"end_s":408,"word_count":356,"topic_slug":237,"topic_label":238,"target_id":394,"target_proposition":395,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":410,"rationale":411,"indexable":244},37,"102417","Então, ele agora viu que, além de derrotar o Lula, ele precisa ter alguém que ganhe as eleições, e que saiba governar, para o PT não voltar nunca mais. -> Entonces, ahora vio que, además de derrotar a Lula, necesita tener a alguien que gane las elecciones y que sepa gobernar, para que el PT no vuelva nunca más.",231.48,244.02,"a_favor",0.92,"defiende tener a alguien que 'saiba governar' para evitar el retorno del PT.",{"idx":169,"utterance_id":413,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":414,"start_s":415,"end_s":416,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},"102418","Porque ganhar nós ganhamos em 2018. -> Porque ganar, ganamos en 2018.",245.7,247.6,{"idx":418,"utterance_id":419,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":420,"start_s":421,"end_s":422,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},39,"102419","Então você diz, mas por que não voltar ainda os olhos ainda para vocês? -> Entonces usted dice, pero ¿por qué no volver todavía la mirada todavía hacia ustedes?",247.92,252.56,{"idx":424,"utterance_id":425,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":426,"start_s":427,"end_s":428,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},40,"102420","Por um motivo só. -> Por un solo motivo.",252.96,253.76,{"idx":430,"utterance_id":431,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":432,"start_s":433,"end_s":434,"word_count":295,"indexable":177},41,"102421","Nós não tivemos debate, nós não tivemos oportunidade de discutir mano a mano quem é que realmente sabe, quem tem autoridade moral para sentar a cadeira, quem tem coragem de enfrentar. -> No tuvimos debate, no tuvimos la oportunidad de discutir mano a mano quién realmente sabe, quién tiene autoridad moral para sentarse en la silla, quién tiene coraje de enfrentar.",254.36,269.4,{"idx":436,"utterance_id":437,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":438,"start_s":439,"end_s":440,"word_count":356,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":441,"target_proposition":442,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":410,"rationale":443,"indexable":244},42,"102422","a violência, o crime, a corrupção, quem tem uma história de vida de 40 anos sem uma mácula, quem realmente sai aprovado de um governo com 88% de aprovação. -> la violencia, el crimen, la corrupción, quién tiene una historia de vida de 40 años sin una mácula, quién realmente sale aprobado de un gobierno con 88% de aprobación.",269.96,283.28,"0552c460-1c26-4e27-8870-466e281c3a6b","reducir homicidios y violencia","cita 'quem tem coragem de enfrentar a violência, o crime' como requisito.",{"idx":445,"utterance_id":446,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":447,"start_s":448,"end_s":449,"word_count":445,"topic_slug":237,"topic_label":238,"target_id":450,"target_proposition":451,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":452,"rationale":453,"indexable":244},43,"102423","Então, tudo isso só vai chegar à população no momento que nós atravessarmos a Copa, porque hoje todo mundo está preocupado com a Copa do Mundo, e depois, aí sim, nós vamos sentar nessa mesa e nós teremos grandes debates que serão sinalizadores. -> Entonces, todo eso solo llegará a la población en el momento en que atravesemos la Copa, porque hoy todo el mundo está preocupado por la Copa del Mundo, y después, ahí sí, nos sentaremos en esa mesa y tendremos grandes debates que servirán de indicadores.",284.2,299.44,"8586a274-e9aa-4d23-b81b-420c8db89291","realizar debates presidenciales después de la Copa del Mundo",0.75,"afirma que el debate con la población ocurrirá después de la Copa.",{"idx":455,"utterance_id":456,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":457,"start_s":458,"end_s":459,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},44,"102424","de quem realmente vai sentar naquela cadeia. -> de quién realmente se va a sentar en esa silla.",299.76,302.52,{"idx":461,"utterance_id":462,"speaker_name":174,"text":463,"start_s":464,"end_s":465,"word_count":430,"indexable":177},45,"102425","O governador, aproveitando uma expressão que o senhor acabou de usar, que é a autoridade moral, quando saiu a denúncia contra Flávio Bolsonaro, a sua reação foi considerada mais suave, no sentido de, de alguma forma, minimizar a gravidade da suspeita. -> Gobernador, aprovechando una expresión que usted acaba de usar, que es la autoridad moral, cuando salió la denuncia contra Flávio Bolsonaro, su reacción fue considerada más suave, en el sentido de, de alguna forma, minimizar la gravedad de la sospecha.",302.6,317.42,{"idx":467,"utterance_id":468,"speaker_name":174,"text":469,"start_s":470,"end_s":471,"word_count":9,"indexable":177},46,"102426","E depois o senhor usou essa expressão que o senhor acabou de repetir aqui, quem tem autoridade moral para concorrer, para chegar ao Palácio do Planalto. -> Y luego usted usó esa expresión que acaba de repetir aquí: quién tiene autoridad moral para competir, para llegar al Planalto (Palacio Presidencial).",317.8,325.42,{"idx":473,"utterance_id":474,"speaker_name":174,"text":475,"start_s":476,"end_s":477,"word_count":362,"indexable":177},47,"102427","O senhor acha que foi um erro político não agir como, por exemplo, agiu... O ex-governador de Minas, Romeu Zema, que claramente condenou o que havia sido denunciado contra Flávio? -> ¿Cree usted que fue un error político no actuar como, por ejemplo, actuó... el exgobernador de Minas, Romeu Zema, que claramente condenó lo que se había denunciado contra Flávio?",325.72,336.62,{"idx":479,"utterance_id":480,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":481,"start_s":482,"end_s":483,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},48,"102428","De maneira alguma. -> De ninguna manera.",336.76,337.78,{"idx":485,"utterance_id":486,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":487,"start_s":488,"end_s":489,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},49,"102429","Veja bem, as pessoas que são ali denunciadas, cabe a ele ou a quem for explicar estas denúncias sobre ele. -> Mire, las personas que ahí son denunciadas, le corresponde a él o a quien sea explicar esas denuncias sobre él.",338.36,348.26,{"idx":491,"utterance_id":492,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":493,"start_s":494,"end_s":495,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},50,"102430","O que abate sobre ele. -> Lo que recae sobre él.",349.08,350.5,{"idx":497,"utterance_id":498,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":499,"start_s":500,"end_s":501,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},51,"102431","Dá a responder ao partido e à sociedade. -> Debe responder al partido y a la sociedad.",351.64,354.5,{"idx":503,"utterance_id":504,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":505,"start_s":506,"end_s":507,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},52,"102432","Agora, você não pode trocar. -> Ahora, usted no puede cambiar.",355.2,357.26,{"idx":509,"utterance_id":510,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":511,"start_s":512,"end_s":513,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},53,"102433","o principal pelo acessório. -> lo principal por lo accesorio.",357.82,359.74,{"idx":515,"utterance_id":516,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":517,"start_s":518,"end_s":519,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":237,"topic_label":238,"target_id":394,"target_proposition":395,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":410,"rationale":520,"indexable":244},54,"102434","Nós fazemos parte de um projeto para derrotar o PT. -> Formamos parte de un proyecto para derrotar al PT.",361.26,366.84,"declara explícitamente participar de 'um projeto para derrotar o PT'.",{"idx":522,"utterance_id":523,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":524,"start_s":525,"end_s":526,"word_count":59,"indexable":177},55,"102435","Se alguns serão abatidos no decorrer da caminhada, isso não pode mudar o eixo principal do projeto, que é ganhar o PT. -> Si algunos son abatidos en el transcurso del camino, eso no puede cambiar el eje principal del proyecto, que es ganar al PT.",368.08,379.9,{"idx":528,"utterance_id":529,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":400,"start_s":530,"end_s":531,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},56,"102436",380.98,381.86,{"idx":533,"utterance_id":534,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":535,"start_s":536,"end_s":537,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},57,"102437","Então, não é simplesmente, olha, você foi Mais leve não. -> Entonces, no es simplemente, mira, «fuiste más suave», ¿no?",382.74,387.82,{"idx":229,"utterance_id":539,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":540,"start_s":541,"end_s":542,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},"102438","Eu disse a ele, olha, você deve explicações ao seu partido e à população brasileira. -> Le dije a él: mira, usted debe explicaciones a su partido y a la población brasileña.",387.88,392.24,{"idx":544,"utterance_id":545,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":546,"start_s":547,"end_s":548,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},59,"102439","Também posição tomada por todos os outros. -> También posición tomada por todos los demás.",393.92,396.7,{"idx":550,"utterance_id":551,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":552,"start_s":553,"end_s":554,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},60,"102440","Está certo? -> ¿Está bien?",397.48,398.26,{"idx":556,"utterance_id":557,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":558,"start_s":559,"end_s":560,"word_count":217,"topic_slug":237,"topic_label":238,"target_id":561,"target_proposition":562,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":563,"rationale":564,"indexable":244},61,"102441","Agora, a demanda da sociedade hoje é que nós não poderemos ser primários nesse debate. -> Ahora, la demanda de la sociedad hoy es que no podemos ser primarios en ese debate.",398.34,406.16,"a51e7017-0cab-4d7a-a952-45a8b57b8447","evitar conflictos internos en la campaña",0.88,"pide que no se cree 'processo conflituoso internamente' en la campaña.",{"idx":566,"utterance_id":567,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":568,"start_s":569,"end_s":570,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},62,"102442","Se nós formos criar um processo conflituoso internamente, quem é que vai ganhar a eleição? -> Si vamos a crear un proceso conflictivo internamente, ¿quién va a ganar la elección?",407.16,412.66,{"idx":572,"utterance_id":573,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":574,"start_s":575,"end_s":576,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},63,"102443","Como ganhar a eleição? -> ¿Cómo ganar la elección?",413.64,414.6,{"idx":578,"utterance_id":579,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":580,"start_s":581,"end_s":582,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},64,"102444","Ou alguém pensa que pode ganhar a eleição? -> ¿O alguien piensa que puede ganar la elección?",415.2,417.12,{"idx":584,"utterance_id":585,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":586,"start_s":587,"end_s":588,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},65,"102445","sem que tenha aqui também o apoio de todo o prestígio do ex-presidente Jair Bolsonaro. -> sin que tenga aquí también el apoyo de todo el prestigio del expresidente Jair Bolsonaro.",417.74,425.82,{"idx":590,"utterance_id":591,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":592,"start_s":593,"end_s":594,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},66,"102446","Como? -> ¿Cómo?",427.12,427.4,{"idx":596,"utterance_id":597,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":598,"start_s":599,"end_s":600,"word_count":295,"indexable":177},67,"102447","Então vamos simplesmente para a realidade, para a vida como ela é. Agora, o eleitor vai decidir aquele que, dentro do pensamento centro-direita, terá a maior capacidade de governar o país. -> Entonces vamos simplemente a la realidad, a la vida como es. Ahora, el elector va a decidir por aquel que, dentro del pensamiento centro-derecha, tendrá la mayor capacidad de gobernar el país.",428.14,442.56,{"idx":602,"utterance_id":603,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":604,"start_s":605,"end_s":606,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},68,"102448","E aí é que eu me coloco. -> Y ahí es donde me coloco.",442.78,444.46,{"idx":608,"utterance_id":609,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":610,"start_s":611,"end_s":612,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},69,"102449","Por quê? -> ¿Por qué?",445.12,445.4,{"idx":614,"utterance_id":615,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":616,"start_s":617,"end_s":618,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},70,"102450","O PL já teve oportunidade de governar o país em 2018, mas não fez as entregas. -> El PL ya tuvo la oportunidad de gobernar el país en 2018, pero no hizo las entregas.",446.92,453.44,{"idx":620,"utterance_id":621,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":622,"start_s":623,"end_s":624,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},71,"102451","Aí o PT voltou. -> Entonces el PT volvió.",453.62,454.72,{"idx":626,"utterance_id":627,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":628,"start_s":629,"end_s":630,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},72,"102452","Por que o PT não volta em Goiás pelos próximos 100 anos? -> ¿Por qué el PT no vuelve en Goiás por los próximos 100 años?",455.52,458.96,{"idx":335,"utterance_id":632,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":633,"start_s":634,"end_s":635,"word_count":191,"topic_slug":636,"topic_label":637,"target_id":638,"target_proposition":639,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":640,"indexable":244},"102453","Porque o governo entregou para a sociedade acima do que ela esperava. -> Porque el gobierno entregó a la sociedad por encima de lo que ella esperaba.",459.72,465.3,"gestao-publica-e-administracao-estadual","Gestión pública y administración estatal","1d606022-11bf-4738-a248-85f398d84e06","mejorar la gestión pública estatal","atribuye al gobierno haber 'entregue para a sociedade' más de lo esperado.",{"idx":642,"utterance_id":643,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":644,"start_s":645,"end_s":646,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},74,"102454","Tanto es así que incluso quienes no votaron por mí realmente me aprobaron con el 88%.",465.86,471.36,{"idx":648,"utterance_id":649,"speaker_name":174,"text":650,"start_s":651,"end_s":652,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},75,"102455","Claro, usted predica la no confrontación entre los candidatos, lo cual es claramente comprensible.",471.44,479.54,{"idx":654,"utterance_id":655,"speaker_name":174,"text":656,"start_s":657,"end_s":658,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},76,"102456","Pero para que el elector elija a uno de los tres, es necesario que vea las diferencias.",479.98,485.6,{"idx":660,"utterance_id":661,"speaker_name":174,"text":662,"start_s":663,"end_s":664,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},77,"102457","Y cada candidato necesita presentarse por su identidad, por su personalidad, por sus ideas que deben ser propias.",486.56,495.2,{"idx":666,"utterance_id":667,"speaker_name":174,"text":668,"start_s":669,"end_s":670,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},78,"102458","Y debe haber alguna diferencia significativa entre ellos.",495.58,499.68,{"idx":672,"utterance_id":673,"speaker_name":174,"text":674,"start_s":675,"end_s":676,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},79,"102459","En este momento, una pregunta muy sencilla.",500.08,501.8,{"idx":678,"utterance_id":679,"speaker_name":174,"text":680,"start_s":681,"end_s":682,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},80,"102460","¿Por qué votar por usted y no por Flávio o por Zema?",502.28,506.24,{"idx":684,"utterance_id":685,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":686,"start_s":687,"end_s":688,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},81,"102461","Mire, esta tesis necesita ser analizada por los electores.",507.14,513.08,{"idx":690,"utterance_id":691,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":692,"start_s":693,"end_s":694,"word_count":59,"indexable":177},82,"102462","En el momento en que le pregunten si va a elaborar un proyecto de gobierno que atienda todas las necesidades de la sociedad...",513.48,523.18,{"idx":696,"utterance_id":697,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":698,"start_s":699,"end_s":700,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},83,"102463","Ah, lo haré.",523.46,523.84,{"idx":702,"utterance_id":703,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":704,"start_s":705,"end_s":706,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},84,"102464","Pero venga, ¿tiene algo que mostrarme que demuestre que no es un simple teórico?",524.5,529.88,{"idx":708,"utterance_id":709,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":710,"start_s":711,"end_s":712,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},85,"102465","¿Ha hecho algo?",531.08,532.98,{"idx":714,"utterance_id":715,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":716,"start_s":717,"end_s":718,"word_count":461,"indexable":177},86,"102466","¿Ha asumido alguna vez un Estado quebrado, con el Tesoro bloqueado, comandado por facciones criminales? Las cuatro ciudades más violentas de Brasil en 2018 eran el entorno de Brasilia; si entrabas en Valparaíso, era como entrar en la ciudad más violenta de Brasil, ¿no es cierto?",533.2,549.86,{"idx":720,"utterance_id":721,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":722,"start_s":723,"end_s":724,"word_count":21,"indexable":177},87,"102467","Tenía un Estado que no tenía crédito alguno, corrupción por toda la máquina, ¿y en qué se ha convertido ese Estado hoy, gente?",550.34,558.68,{"idx":726,"utterance_id":727,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":728,"start_s":729,"end_s":730,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},88,"102468","¿Cierto?",558.78,559.6,{"idx":732,"utterance_id":733,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":734,"start_s":735,"end_s":736,"word_count":219,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":441,"target_proposition":442,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":737,"indexable":177},89,"102469","Es el Estado más seguro del país.",559.98,561.68,"afirma que Goiás es 'o Estado mais seguro do país' como logro.",{"idx":739,"utterance_id":740,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":741,"start_s":742,"end_s":743,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":744,"topic_label":745,"target_id":746,"target_proposition":747,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":748,"indexable":244},90,"102470","Es el Estado que tiene el menor porcentaje de extrema pobreza, hoy disputando con Rio Grande do Sul y Santa Catarina.",562.24,568.18,"combate-a-pobreza","Combate a la Pobreza","7d31990d-3eb3-43eb-b22a-673316301587","reducir la pobreza y promover el aumento de ingresos","atribuye al Estado tener el menor porcentaje de extrema pobreza.",{"idx":750,"utterance_id":751,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":752,"start_s":753,"end_s":754,"word_count":224,"topic_slug":755,"topic_label":756,"target_id":757,"target_proposition":758,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":759,"indexable":244},91,"102471","Es el Estado que tiene la medicina regionalizada hoy, dando dignidad a las personas.",568.94,573.96,"saude-publica-e-infraestrutura-hospitalar","Salud pública y infraestructura hospitalaria","68a90cb4-9fb5-40bb-b7c8-d70531565201","expandir la red pública de salud con aumento de camas hospitalarias","reivindica haber 'medicina regionalizada' dando dignidad a la población.",{"idx":761,"utterance_id":762,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":763,"start_s":764,"end_s":765,"word_count":262,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":766,"target_proposition":767,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":768,"indexable":244},92,"102472","Es el Estado que ocupa el primer lugar en educación en Brasil.",574.44,577.46,"372a3caf-3f99-4f27-96a2-aa2497b7b2a8","mejorar la calidad de la educación","afirma que el Estado alcanzó 'o primeiro lugar na educação'.",{"idx":770,"utterance_id":771,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":772,"start_s":773,"end_s":774,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},93,"102473","Es el Estado que más ha avanzado en inteligencia artificial.",578.6,581.34,{"idx":776,"utterance_id":777,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":778,"start_s":779,"end_s":780,"word_count":224,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":781,"target_proposition":782,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":783,"indexable":244},94,"102474","La seguridad pública de Goiás se basa en la inteligencia artificial para combatir el crimen.",581.94,588.74,"2814e6bc-99df-4d68-b541-163f1a76f3de","implantar centro de innovación e integrar inteligencia artificial en la seguridad pública","dice que la seguridad pública de Goiás está 'embasada na inteligência artificial'.",{"idx":276,"utterance_id":785,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":786,"start_s":787,"end_s":788,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},"102475","Hoy nuestras tasas de resolución están cerca del 100%.",589.62,592.7,{"idx":790,"utterance_id":791,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":792,"start_s":793,"end_s":794,"word_count":32,"indexable":177},96,"102476","No hay un asalto a banco, no hay un nuevo cangaço, no hay un asalto a un camión blindado, no hay una invasión de tierras, no hay un secuestro.",592.78,600.94,{"idx":796,"utterance_id":797,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":798,"start_s":799,"end_s":800,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},97,"102477","La gente vive en paz.",601.26,602.62,{"idx":802,"utterance_id":803,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":804,"start_s":805,"end_s":806,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},98,"102478","Pues bien, es muy común que la gente diga: mira, voy a hacer esto, voy a hacer aquello.",603.22,606.96,{"idx":808,"utterance_id":809,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":810,"start_s":811,"end_s":812,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},99,"102479","Pero venga, ¿puede probar que hizo eso?",607,608.46,{"idx":814,"utterance_id":815,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":816,"start_s":817,"end_s":818,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},100,"102480","¿Tiene algún dato que lo acredite para eso?",608.52,611.74,{"idx":820,"utterance_id":821,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":822,"start_s":823,"end_s":824,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},101,"102481","Por ejemplo, ¿hay algún dato que acredite más que la trayectoria pasada?",612.22,615.8,{"idx":826,"utterance_id":827,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":828,"start_s":829,"end_s":830,"word_count":330,"indexable":177},102,"102482","Porque, Mitri, no se gobierna con discursos, se gobierna por la autoridad moral de quien ocupa la silla de gobernador y de presidente de la República.",616.62,624.02,{"idx":832,"utterance_id":833,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":834,"start_s":835,"end_s":836,"word_count":219,"topic_slug":837,"topic_label":838,"target_id":839,"target_proposition":840,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":563,"rationale":841,"indexable":177},103,"102483","Entonces, nunca me han visto involucrado en corrupción.",625.16,627.52,"etica-e-integridade-publica","Ética y integridad pública","3a81f62b-4ef4-4a91-ada0-85ab8bf863c6","mantener la integridad personal al actuar en la política","afirma 'nunca me viram envolvido em bandaleira', defendiendo integridad.",{"idx":843,"utterance_id":844,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":845,"start_s":846,"end_s":847,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},104,"102484","No tengo ningún proceso judicial.",628.2,629.26,{"idx":849,"utterance_id":850,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":851,"start_s":852,"end_s":853,"word_count":43,"indexable":177},105,"102485","Nunca hubo una denuncia que pendiera sobre mi honor y mi patrimonio, sobre mi profesión —soy médico— y jamás negué mi origen rural.",630,640.5,{"idx":855,"utterance_id":856,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":857,"start_s":858,"end_s":859,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},106,"102486","Cuando nadie tenía coraje y la agricultura era el patito feo.",641.62,645.62,{"idx":861,"utterance_id":862,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":863,"start_s":864,"end_s":865,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},107,"102487","Era Caiado quien estaba aquí en 1986, luego en el debate de 1989, defendiendo al productor rural.",646.96,655,{"idx":867,"utterance_id":868,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":869,"start_s":870,"end_s":871,"word_count":210,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":26,"target_id":872,"target_proposition":873,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":875,"indexable":244},108,"102488","Siempre he tenido coherencia en mi vida; siempre defendí el derecho de propiedad, la iniciativa privada, la economía de mercado.",656.1,662.66,"2f54c3c0-e2b5-400f-90eb-7f928f1a2f52","garantizar y proteger el derecho de propiedad y la iniciativa privada",0.9,"declara haber defendido siempre la propiedad, la iniciativa privada y el mercado.",{"idx":877,"utterance_id":878,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":879,"start_s":880,"end_s":881,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},109,"102489","Era el único en el debate, entre los 22 candidatos, que estaba allí —Caiado— defendiendo todo eso.",662.96,668.64,{"idx":883,"utterance_id":884,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":885,"start_s":886,"end_s":887,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},110,"102490","En aquella época, el sector rural y el productor eran demonizados.",669.18,672.84,{"idx":889,"utterance_id":890,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":891,"start_s":892,"end_s":893,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},111,"102491","Caiado: médico, especialista, profesor universitario.",673.28,676.54,{"idx":895,"utterance_id":896,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":897,"start_s":898,"end_s":899,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},112,"102492","Estaba allí defendiendo el sector.",677.42,679.12,{"idx":901,"utterance_id":902,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":903,"start_s":904,"end_s":905,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},113,"102493","Ahora todo el mundo quiere ser agro.",679.94,681.84,{"idx":907,"utterance_id":908,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":909,"start_s":910,"end_s":911,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},114,"102494","Ahora es pop y es tech.",682,683.74,{"idx":913,"utterance_id":914,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":915,"start_s":916,"end_s":917,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},115,"102495","En mi época era demonizado.",684.26,685.94,{"idx":919,"utterance_id":920,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":921,"start_s":922,"end_s":923,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},116,"102496","Ahora está bien visto.",686.06,687.54,{"idx":925,"utterance_id":926,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":927,"start_s":928,"end_s":929,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},117,"102497","Es lo que les digo a esos 'major', mis hijos.",688.14,689.98,{"idx":931,"utterance_id":932,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":933,"start_s":934,"end_s":935,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},118,"102498","Ustedes son sabor agro.",690.36,692,{"idx":937,"utterance_id":938,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":939,"start_s":940,"end_s":941,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},119,"102499","Agro de verdad.",692.8,693.44,{"idx":943,"utterance_id":944,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":945,"start_s":946,"end_s":947,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},120,"102500","Fui yo quien empezó esta lucha hace 40 años.",693.58,696.92,{"idx":949,"utterance_id":950,"speaker_name":174,"text":951,"start_s":952,"end_s":953,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},121,"102501","Gobernador.",697.32,697.84,{"idx":955,"utterance_id":956,"speaker_name":174,"text":957,"start_s":958,"end_s":959,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},122,"102502","Gobernador, déjeme hacerle una provocación aquí.",698.24,700.96,{"idx":961,"utterance_id":962,"speaker_name":174,"text":963,"start_s":964,"end_s":965,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},123,"102503","Si tenemos al PL (Partido Liberal), el PL (Partido Liberal) apoya a Flávio.",701,704.2,{"idx":967,"utterance_id":968,"speaker_name":174,"text":969,"start_s":970,"end_s":971,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},124,"102504","El PL (Partido Liberal) está con Flávio.",704.6,705.62,{"idx":973,"utterance_id":974,"speaker_name":174,"text":975,"start_s":976,"end_s":977,"word_count":278,"indexable":177},125,"102505","Si usted se va con Lula, Lula cuenta con el apoyo del 110% del PT (Partido de los Trabajadores), de toda la izquierda, en el caso de Lula.",705.72,711.84,{"idx":979,"utterance_id":980,"speaker_name":174,"text":981,"start_s":982,"end_s":983,"word_count":21,"indexable":177},126,"102506","Pero si usted va al PSD, y nosotros hicimos esa pregunta, hice esa pregunta, lo hicimos aquí, el propio Gilberto Kassab...",712.54,719.24,{"idx":985,"utterance_id":986,"speaker_name":174,"text":987,"start_s":988,"end_s":989,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},127,"102507","Si usted va al PSD, se ve al partido moviéndose en todas direcciones.",719.28,724.14,{"idx":991,"utterance_id":992,"speaker_name":174,"text":993,"start_s":994,"end_s":995,"word_count":15,"indexable":177},128,"102508","Y le digo aquí... quiero decir, obviamente no es su responsabilidad, pero es una situación política, en mi opinión, muy delicada y que dice mucho de lo que es Brasil.",724.72,735.06,{"idx":997,"utterance_id":998,"speaker_name":174,"text":999,"start_s":1000,"end_s":1001,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},129,"102509","Entonces usted ve al alcalde Eduardo Paes y no sabemos bien a quién va a apoyar.",735.1,738.34,{"idx":1003,"utterance_id":1004,"speaker_name":174,"text":1005,"start_s":1006,"end_s":1007,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},130,"102510","Y ahí el alcalde Eduardo Paes, o el exalcalde Eduardo Paes.",738.68,742.84,{"idx":1009,"utterance_id":1010,"speaker_name":174,"text":1011,"start_s":1012,"end_s":1013,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},131,"102511","Si va a Rio Grande do Sul, no ve una movilización a favor de la propia candidatura del PSD.",742.96,748.08,{"idx":1015,"utterance_id":1016,"speaker_name":174,"text":1017,"start_s":1018,"end_s":1019,"word_count":21,"indexable":177},132,"102512","Si va a Minas Gerais, el candidato del PSD parece estar más con Zema que con la candidatura del propio PSD.",748.7,756.68,{"idx":1021,"utterance_id":1022,"speaker_name":174,"text":1023,"start_s":1024,"end_s":1025,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},133,"102513","Si va al Nordeste, el PSD está enteramente con Lula.",756.86,760.32,{"idx":1027,"utterance_id":1028,"speaker_name":174,"text":1029,"start_s":1030,"end_s":1031,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},134,"102514","Mi pregunta, una provocación tal vez aquí para Ronaldo Caiado: ¿cómo lidia usted con eso?",762.34,767.6,{"idx":1033,"utterance_id":1034,"speaker_name":174,"text":1035,"start_s":1036,"end_s":1037,"word_count":59,"indexable":177},135,"102515","¿Cómo lidia con el propio partido, que parece una especie de geleia brasileña que va para todos lados, etc.?",767.64,775.3,{"idx":1039,"utterance_id":1040,"speaker_name":174,"text":1041,"start_s":1042,"end_s":1043,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},136,"102516","¿Cómo lo maneja políticamente?",775.54,777.36,{"idx":1045,"utterance_id":1046,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1047,"start_s":1048,"end_s":1049,"word_count":224,"topic_slug":1050,"topic_label":1051,"target_id":1052,"target_proposition":1053,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":1054,"indexable":244},137,"102517","Primero, Chile, quiero agradecer mucho aquí al presidente de mi partido, Kassab.",778.8,785.6,"estrategia-eleitoral","Estrategia electoral","85387e47-3b9a-49ef-a410-bda2f8766d2b","apoyar la decisión del presidente del partido de lanzar una candidatura","agradece a Kassab por presentar una candidatura que rompió la polarización.",{"idx":61,"utterance_id":1056,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1057,"start_s":1058,"end_s":1059,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},"102518","Porque si Kassab no hubiera tenido el coraje de presentar una candidatura, quedaría exactamente lo que el PT (Partido de los Trabajadores) desea.",786.44,795.14,{"idx":1061,"utterance_id":1062,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1063,"start_s":1064,"end_s":1065,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},139,"102519","Solo quedarían los dos partidos en el primer turno.",796.12,798.76,{"idx":1067,"utterance_id":1068,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1069,"start_s":1070,"end_s":1071,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},140,"102520","Eso es lo que ellos quieren.",800.26,801.12,{"idx":1073,"utterance_id":1074,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1075,"start_s":1076,"end_s":1077,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},141,"102521","La intención era esa, y Kassab frustró esa artimaña que se había tramado.",802.6,807.1,{"idx":1079,"utterance_id":1080,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1081,"start_s":1082,"end_s":1083,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},142,"102522","Esa polarización iba a continuar.",807.66,809.92,{"idx":1085,"utterance_id":1086,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1087,"start_s":1088,"end_s":1089,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},143,"102523","Y no habría otra alternativa.",810.8,812.12,{"idx":50,"utterance_id":1091,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1092,"start_s":1093,"end_s":1094,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},"102524","Desde el primer turno el juego ya estaba cerrado.",812.2,814.44,{"idx":1096,"utterance_id":1097,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1098,"start_s":1099,"end_s":1100,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},145,"102525","Entonces... independientemente de las decisiones en los estados, Castalvo fue muy correcto con nosotros.",815.86,821.4,{"idx":1102,"utterance_id":1103,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1104,"start_s":1105,"end_s":1106,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},146,"102526","Llamó a Ratinho, llamó a Eduardo Leite, me invitó en último lugar y dijo: mire, las reglas serán estas.",822.06,827.92,{"idx":1108,"utterance_id":1109,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1110,"start_s":1111,"end_s":1112,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},147,"102527","Ahora, existe libertad en los estados para que el partido tenga su definición.",828.38,834.02,{"idx":1114,"utterance_id":1115,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1116,"start_s":1117,"end_s":1118,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},148,"102528","Listo, punto final.",834.92,835.58,{"idx":1120,"utterance_id":1121,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1122,"start_s":1123,"end_s":1124,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},149,"102529","Todos aceptamos esa regla.",835.94,837.9,{"idx":1126,"utterance_id":1127,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1128,"start_s":1129,"end_s":1130,"word_count":356,"indexable":177},150,"102530","Y nos dio la oportunidad; mi partido es el partido más grande del país hoy y, sin embargo... decidió que no presentaría candidatura para la presidencia de la 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orgulloso.",887.24,890.32,{"idx":1179,"utterance_id":1180,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1181,"start_s":1182,"end_s":1183,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},159,"102539","Entonces, es lo que quiero hacer.",890.7,892.06,{"idx":1185,"utterance_id":1186,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1187,"start_s":1188,"end_s":1189,"word_count":198,"topic_slug":636,"topic_label":637,"target_id":1190,"target_proposition":1191,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1192,"rationale":1193,"indexable":177},160,"102540","Voy a devolver Brasil a los brasileños.",892.1,894.88,"3730b9dd-6315-4045-911b-a58fcfbf3945","devolver Brasil a los brasileños",0.6,"declara el objetivo de 'devolver o Brasil para os brasileiros', meta general.",{"idx":1195,"utterance_id":1196,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1197,"start_s":1198,"end_s":1199,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},161,"102541","Los ciudadanos se sentirán orgullosos de 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candidato?",916.58,918.9,{"idx":1225,"utterance_id":1226,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1227,"start_s":1228,"end_s":1229,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},166,"102546","João Rodrigues, con una posibilidad real de ganar las elecciones allí.",919.18,923,{"idx":1231,"utterance_id":1232,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1233,"start_s":1234,"end_s":1235,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},167,"102547","Paraná, el candidato de Ratinho.",924.58,926.42,{"idx":1237,"utterance_id":1238,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1239,"start_s":1240,"end_s":1241,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},168,"102548","Aquí en São Paulo, también estaremos con la candidatura de Tarcísio.",928.08,932.12,{"idx":1243,"utterance_id":1244,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1245,"start_s":1246,"end_s":1247,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},169,"102549","¿De acuerdo?",933.02,933.28,{"idx":1249,"utterance_id":1250,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1251,"start_s":1252,"end_s":1253,"word_count":43,"indexable":177},170,"102550","Usted lo señaló bien en Rio Grande do Sul, en Minas Gerais, con Matheus, que es candidato del PSD, pero es muy comprensible que lo apoye.",933.72,943.56,{"idx":1255,"utterance_id":1256,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1257,"start_s":1258,"end_s":1259,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},171,"102551","Ahora, ¿y en el Nordeste?",943.98,945.3,{"idx":1261,"utterance_id":1262,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1263,"start_s":1264,"end_s":1265,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},172,"102552","¿En el palanque de quién estoy?",945.82,947.02,{"idx":1267,"utterance_id":1268,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1269,"start_s":1270,"end_s":1271,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},173,"102553","De Semi Neto, que va a ganar las elecciones en Bahía.",947.38,949.96,{"idx":1273,"utterance_id":1274,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1275,"start_s":1276,"end_s":1277,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},174,"102554","Y en Ceará, trabajando para tener el apoyo también, junto con Ciro Gomes.",951.5,956.9,{"idx":1279,"utterance_id":1280,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1281,"start_s":1282,"end_s":1283,"word_count":9,"indexable":177},175,"102555","Entonces, sin hablar de los otros estados de la federación, para no ser algo cansino, pero el partido tendrá palanque en los 26 estados y en el Distrito Federal.",957.76,967.04,{"idx":1285,"utterance_id":1286,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1287,"start_s":1288,"end_s":1289,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},176,"102556","Entonces, hay que entender que Kassab nos expuso eso.",967.48,972.18,{"idx":1291,"utterance_id":1292,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1293,"start_s":1294,"end_s":1295,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},177,"102557","Teníamos 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momento.",984.36,988.1,{"idx":1321,"utterance_id":1322,"speaker_name":174,"text":1323,"start_s":1324,"end_s":1325,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},182,"102562","Sé que es una población muy pequeña vinculada al agro y gran parte ligada a la agricultura familiar.",988.56,992.92,{"idx":1327,"utterance_id":1328,"speaker_name":174,"text":1329,"start_s":1330,"end_s":1331,"word_count":278,"indexable":177},183,"102563","Pero ¿por qué el agro, que es el sustento del país desde hace tanto tiempo, no logra tener una candidatura del agro?",993.38,999.62,{"idx":45,"utterance_id":1333,"speaker_name":174,"text":1334,"start_s":1335,"end_s":1336,"word_count":278,"indexable":177},"102564","El agro se identifica con usted, pero no tiene votos suficientes para colocarlo en este momento en una posición mucho mejor.",1000.02,1008.26,{"idx":1338,"utterance_id":1339,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1340,"start_s":1341,"end_s":1342,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},185,"102565","Mire, Felipe.",1009.42,1010.36,{"idx":1344,"utterance_id":1345,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1346,"start_s":1347,"end_s":1348,"word_count":236,"topic_slug":1349,"topic_label":1350,"target_id":1351,"target_proposition":1352,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":1354,"indexable":244},186,"102566","El agro es un segmento de la economía, el más importante que tiene hoy Brasil.",1011.54,1016.8,"politica-economica-desenvolvimento-regional","Política Económica \u002F Desarrollo Regional","ce802dfe-6752-435f-aa5b-c3201b3b0b57","valorizar el sector agropecuario",0.85,"afirma que 'o agro é o segmento mais importante' para la economía.",{"idx":1356,"utterance_id":1357,"speaker_name":174,"text":1358,"start_s":1359,"end_s":1360,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},187,"102567","Pero no transfiere 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empleo.",1022.2,1032.12,"defiende la relevancia del agro para la balanza comercial y el empleo.",{"idx":1387,"utterance_id":1388,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1389,"start_s":1390,"end_s":1391,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},192,"102572","Eso es indiscutible, ¿está bien?",1032.32,1033.96,{"idx":1393,"utterance_id":1394,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1395,"start_s":1396,"end_s":1397,"word_count":330,"indexable":177},193,"102573","Ahora, usted tiene que entender que la realidad brasileña... Es una realidad que intentaron, y el PT siempre trabajó en querer crear esa cizaña entre.",1034.6,1046.84,{"idx":1399,"utterance_id":1400,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1401,"start_s":1402,"end_s":1403,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},194,"102574","Ahora, esa decisión de que el agricultor familiar va a votar por la izquierda, no es así.",1047.26,1054.58,{"idx":1405,"utterance_id":1406,"speaker_name":174,"text":1407,"start_s":1408,"end_s":1409,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},195,"102575","No, ni siquiera es eso.",1055.04,1056.08,{"idx":1411,"utterance_id":1412,"speaker_name":174,"text":1413,"start_s":1414,"end_s":1415,"word_count":297,"indexable":177},196,"102576","Es que la suma da 5, 6% vinculada al agro, sea la agricultura familiar, sea los grandes productores rurales.",1057.1,1065.12,{"idx":1417,"utterance_id":1418,"speaker_name":174,"text":1419,"start_s":1420,"end_s":1421,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},197,"102577","Eso no se transfiere, usted no consigue, me parece, ser el candidato del agro.",1065.94,1072.28,{"idx":1423,"utterance_id":1424,"speaker_name":174,"text":1425,"start_s":1426,"end_s":1427,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},198,"102578","Flávio Bolsonaro, me parece, tiene mucho más apoyo dentro de esos sectores.",1072.5,1076.12,{"idx":1429,"utterance_id":1430,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1431,"start_s":1432,"end_s":1433,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},199,"102579","Calma, usted tiene que entender el momento en que estamos en la campaña, ¿cierto?",1077.94,1082.72,{"idx":1435,"utterance_id":1436,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1437,"start_s":1438,"end_s":1439,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},200,"102580","En la campaña de Ronaldo Caiado, yo sería el primer médico, después de Juscelino Kubitschek, en llegar a la presidencia.",1082.94,1091.06,{"idx":1441,"utterance_id":1442,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1443,"start_s":1444,"end_s":1445,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},201,"102581","¿Entonces usted dice que la clase médica tampoco transfiere el voto?",1092.16,1095.56,{"idx":1447,"utterance_id":1448,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1449,"start_s":1450,"end_s":1451,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},202,"102582","¿Será que el profesor Luquezzi, será que el profesor Carvalho...",1096.06,1103.68,{"idx":11,"utterance_id":1453,"speaker_name":174,"text":1454,"start_s":1455,"end_s":1456,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},"102583","Creo que la gente no sabe que usted es médico.",1104.32,1106.86,{"idx":1458,"utterance_id":1459,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1460,"start_s":1461,"end_s":1462,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},204,"102584","¿Será que Camargo y Luquezzi allí no transfieren votos en Río Grande del 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enorgullezco.",1126.16,1131.4,{"idx":1487,"utterance_id":1488,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1489,"start_s":1490,"end_s":1491,"word_count":32,"indexable":177},209,"102589","De una gestión que usted piensa que, cuando usted sale con 88 de aprobación en el Estado, ¿fue solo un segmento el que votó o fue casi la totalidad del Estado la que lo aprobó?",1132.5,1143.3,{"idx":1493,"utterance_id":1494,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1495,"start_s":1496,"end_s":1497,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},210,"102590","Entonces, la diferencia no es querer etiquetar mi campaña como de un segmento u otro, usted tiene que rotular.",1144,1149.84,{"idx":1499,"utterance_id":1500,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1501,"start_s":1502,"end_s":1503,"word_count":330,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1504,"target_proposition":1505,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":1506,"indexable":244},211,"102591","Hoy Brasil necesita a alguien que quiera liberar a Brasil de las facciones criminales que tienen bajo su mando a más de 50 millones de brasileños.",1150.32,1160.08,"93ab97f7-6f96-4664-bb96-637a9cb15188","desarticular operaciones de facciones criminales","dice que Brasil necesita ser 'livre das facções criminosas'.",{"idx":1508,"utterance_id":1509,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1510,"start_s":1511,"end_s":1512,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":1513,"topic_label":1514,"target_id":1515,"target_proposition":1516,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":1517,"indexable":244},212,"102592","¿Quién tiene ese coraje de enfrentar un PCC, un Comando Vermelho, recuperar la Amazonia brasileña, que está en manos de facciones de Colombia, de Venezuela, de México y también de las brasileñas allí?",1160.46,1172.58,"meio-ambiente-infraestrutura","Medio ambiente e infraestructura","831f0292-14be-4734-bc3a-22e113be0a9d","recuperar la Amazonía brasileña","declara la necesidad de 'recuperar a Amazônia brasileira'.",{"idx":1519,"utterance_id":1520,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1521,"start_s":1522,"end_s":1523,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},213,"102593","Esa es la angustia que la gente debe ver.",1173.64,1175.82,{"idx":1525,"utterance_id":1526,"speaker_name":174,"text":1527,"start_s":1528,"end_s":1529,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},214,"102594","Ahora, volviendo a la cuestión del panel... del electorado.",1176.32,1180.14,{"idx":1531,"utterance_id":1532,"speaker_name":174,"text":1533,"start_s":1534,"end_s":1535,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},215,"102595","Las encuestas nos muestran claramente lo siguiente, varias encuestas.",1180.4,1184.08,{"idx":1537,"utterance_id":1538,"speaker_name":174,"text":1539,"start_s":1540,"end_s":1541,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":237,"topic_label":238,"target_id":1542,"target_proposition":1543,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":1544,"indexable":244},216,"102596","Tiene a los bolsonaristas, que están con Bolsonaro, ese centro que no siempre es bolsonarista, pero que se queda con él, otro sector del centro, centro-izquierda, que se queda con Lula, y ahí está la polarización.",1184.84,1198.3,"4df69bd7-8567-4e30-ad3d-afb0c47a58b0","describir la polarización electoral y los bloques de votantes","resume encuestas mostrando bolsonaristas, centro y centro-izquierda.",{"idx":1546,"utterance_id":1547,"speaker_name":174,"text":1548,"start_s":1549,"end_s":1550,"word_count":21,"indexable":177},217,"102597","En el medio hay un porcentaje muy pequeño, que son aquellos que todavía tienen dudas, y ellos acostumbran, al final, a decidir la elección.",1198.84,1206.26,{"idx":1552,"utterance_id":1553,"speaker_name":174,"text":1554,"start_s":1555,"end_s":1556,"word_count":217,"topic_slug":1557,"topic_label":1558,"target_id":1559,"target_proposition":1560,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":1561,"indexable":244},218,"102598","Pero su candidatura va a necesitar entrar en el ámbito de Flávio, no hay otra manera.",1206.88,1212.94,"programa-eleitoral","Programa Electoral","b15d55c0-b997-4684-a2c8-92a47fc58452","convencer a votantes bolsonaristas de votar por nuestra chapa","afirma que la candidatura necesita 'entrar na seara' y quitar electores.",{"idx":1563,"utterance_id":1564,"speaker_name":174,"text":1565,"start_s":1566,"end_s":1567,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":1557,"topic_label":1558,"target_id":1559,"target_proposition":1560,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":1568,"indexable":244},219,"102599","Toma el conjunto del electorado, el elector está allí, su elector está allí, tiene que sacarlo de allí.",1213,1219.72,"dice explícitamente 'tem que tirar de lá' sobre el electorado adversario.",{"idx":381,"utterance_id":1570,"speaker_name":174,"text":1571,"start_s":1572,"end_s":1573,"word_count":330,"indexable":177},"102600","Quisiera saber cómo usted evalúa eso, cómo va a ser el desempeño de esta primera vuelta, incluso para mantener el ánimo.",1220.28,1228.04,{"idx":1575,"utterance_id":1576,"speaker_name":174,"text":1577,"start_s":1578,"end_s":1579,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},221,"102601","que usted propone para la segunda vuelta.",1228.36,1230.08,{"idx":1581,"utterance_id":1582,"speaker_name":174,"text":1583,"start_s":1584,"end_s":1585,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},222,"102602","¿Cómo va a atravesar eso?",1230.18,1231.58,{"idx":1587,"utterance_id":1588,"speaker_name":174,"text":1589,"start_s":1590,"end_s":1591,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},223,"102603","¿compitiendo con los colegas y uno de ellos estará allí contando con el apoyo de los otros?",1231.62,1236.48,{"idx":1593,"utterance_id":1594,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1595,"start_s":1596,"end_s":1597,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":1557,"topic_label":1558,"target_id":1598,"target_proposition":1599,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":1601,"indexable":177},224,"102604","Adriano se olvidó de mostrar ahí que, cuando uno disputa una elección mayoritaria, lo principal en una encuesta es el rechazo.",1237.2,1244.18,"de7caff3-be6f-40bb-9805-da72fe25d5e9","priorizar reducir el rechazo en las estrategias de campaña",0.7,"afirma que el rechazo es el principal indicador en la encuesta, sin proponer acción concreta.",{"idx":1603,"utterance_id":1604,"speaker_name":174,"text":1605,"start_s":1606,"end_s":1607,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},225,"102605","Sí, no.",1245.78,1246.06,{"idx":1609,"utterance_id":1610,"speaker_name":174,"text":1611,"start_s":1612,"end_s":1613,"word_count":290,"topic_slug":1614,"topic_label":1615,"target_id":1616,"target_proposition":1617,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":1618,"indexable":244},226,"102606","Entonces las encuestas muestran no solo eso, que el rechazo a Lula y a Flávio Bolsonaro son los mayores.",1246.2,1250.94,"pesquisa-de-opiniao","Encuesta de opinión","7356ad07-1061-4a83-a820-d71d234a4c03","divulgar encuesta de intención de voto","informa el resultado de una encuesta sobre el rechazo de candidatos.",{"idx":1620,"utterance_id":1621,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1622,"start_s":1623,"end_s":1624,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":1614,"topic_label":1615,"target_id":1616,"target_proposition":1617,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":1625,"indexable":177},227,"102607","Lula y Flávio son los dos mayores, en el top.",1251.08,1254.44,"reafirma que dos candidatos tienen mayor rechazo, relato fáctico.",{"idx":1627,"utterance_id":1628,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1629,"start_s":1630,"end_s":1631,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":1557,"topic_label":1558,"target_id":1632,"target_proposition":1633,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":1634,"indexable":177},228,"102608","Entonces, eso llegó al techo, es decir, ellos tocaron techo.",1255.88,1259.86,"1c0d8702-a63a-4ba8-82e2-56e941fca165","interpretar la saturación del rechazo en las encuestas electorales","dice que el rechazo 'bateu no teto', interpretación de los datos.",{"idx":1636,"utterance_id":1637,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1638,"start_s":1639,"end_s":1640,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":1557,"topic_label":1558,"target_id":1641,"target_proposition":1642,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":1643,"indexable":244},229,"102609","Y Caiado tiene una carretera enorme, como decimos en el interior, una senda enorme por la que poder caminar.",1260.38,1268.02,"3f301154-2035-4ef9-a5cd-b004f2768383","alcanzar a electores indecisos","afirma tener 'um estradão enorme' para crecer electoralmente.",{"idx":1645,"utterance_id":1646,"speaker_name":174,"text":1647,"start_s":1648,"end_s":1649,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":1557,"topic_label":1558,"target_id":1650,"target_proposition":1651,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":1652,"indexable":177},230,"102610","Eso tiene también un 50% de desconocimiento, lo cual es muy bueno.",1268.8,1272.52,"29bf44fd-2355-4099-a018-cef37c319915","capitalizar el desconocimiento del electorado para conseguir votos","señala un 50% de desconocimiento como ventaja electoral.",{"idx":1654,"utterance_id":1655,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1656,"start_s":1657,"end_s":1658,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},231,"102611","De desconocimiento.",1272.74,1273.94,{"idx":1660,"utterance_id":1661,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1662,"start_s":1663,"end_s":1664,"word_count":217,"topic_slug":1557,"topic_label":1558,"target_id":1641,"target_proposition":1642,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":1665,"indexable":244},232,"102612","Entonces, tengo un camino, una avenida ahí de un tamaño enorme por la que caminar.",1274.28,1280.3,"declara tener 'uma avenida' grande para ampliar su electorado.",{"idx":1667,"utterance_id":1668,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1669,"start_s":1670,"end_s":1671,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},233,"102613","¿Y qué va a pensar el elector?",1280.64,1282.3,{"idx":1673,"utterance_id":1674,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1675,"start_s":1676,"end_s":1677,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},234,"102614","El elector va a decir, bueno, mire... Digamos, en la elección de 89.",1282.4,1286.26,{"idx":1679,"utterance_id":1680,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1681,"start_s":1682,"end_s":1683,"word_count":59,"indexable":177},235,"102615","Porque, ¿por qué realmente, en la recta final, vi que realmente sacaron los votos que habían votado por mí y votaron por Collor?",1286.74,1292.64,{"idx":1685,"utterance_id":1686,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1687,"start_s":1688,"end_s":1689,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},236,"102616","Porque, bueno, Collor tenía la posibilidad de derrotar a Lula.",1293,1295.28,{"idx":1691,"utterance_id":1692,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1693,"start_s":1694,"end_s":1695,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},237,"102617","Es el voto útil.",1295.76,1296.54,{"idx":17,"utterance_id":1697,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1698,"start_s":1699,"end_s":1700,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},"102618","¿Está de acuerdo conmigo?",1297.3,1298.04,{"idx":1702,"utterance_id":1703,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1704,"start_s":1705,"end_s":1706,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},239,"102619","Claro.",1298.16,1298.46,{"idx":1708,"utterance_id":1709,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1710,"start_s":1711,"end_s":1712,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},240,"102620","Entonces, ahora, cuando llegue la hora, decir así, pero mire.",1298.62,1302.36,{"idx":1714,"utterance_id":1715,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1716,"start_s":1717,"end_s":1718,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},241,"102621","Pero a la hora del debate, ¿quién es capaz de derrotar a Lula en la segunda vuelta?",1302.8,1309.28,{"idx":1720,"utterance_id":1721,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1722,"start_s":1723,"end_s":1724,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},242,"102622","¿Eh?",1309.42,1309.52,{"idx":1726,"utterance_id":1727,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1728,"start_s":1729,"end_s":1730,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},243,"102623","Ahí es cuando volverá la posición favorable.",1309.56,1313.04,{"idx":1732,"utterance_id":1733,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1734,"start_s":1735,"end_s":1736,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":1557,"topic_label":1558,"target_id":1737,"target_proposition":1738,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":1739,"indexable":244},244,"102624","para que Caiado cada vez crezca más y tenga a Caiado en el debate, ahí el Mano a Mano, yo y Lula aquí en la Band.",1313.7,1321.58,"4a96b6e9-9ce9-40e6-9776-733143cf4a62","garantizar participación en debates electorales","defiende crecer para estar en el debate Mano a Mano contra el adversario.",{"idx":23,"utterance_id":1741,"speaker_name":174,"text":1742,"start_s":1743,"end_s":1744,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},"102625","Entonces, ¿pero no volvemos a esa pregunta que hizo Mitri?",1321.88,1324.5,{"idx":1746,"utterance_id":1747,"speaker_name":174,"text":1748,"start_s":1749,"end_s":1750,"word_count":43,"indexable":177},246,"102626","Usted dijo que nos olvidamos de mostrar el rechazo y que en realidad trajimos los datos principales para iniciar la entrevista con usted.",1324.84,1329.62,{"idx":1752,"utterance_id":1753,"speaker_name":174,"text":1754,"start_s":1755,"end_s":1756,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},247,"102627","Y claro, el rechazo del presidente Lula y luego de Flávio Bolsonaro son los mayores.",1329.68,1333.58,{"idx":1758,"utterance_id":1759,"speaker_name":174,"text":1760,"start_s":1761,"end_s":1762,"word_count":21,"indexable":177},248,"102628","Pero la encuesta, por ejemplo, también mostró que la caída del senador Flávio Bolsonaro fue entre los jóvenes de 16 a 24 años.",1334.12,1342.44,{"idx":1764,"utterance_id":1765,"speaker_name":174,"text":1766,"start_s":1767,"end_s":1768,"word_count":267,"indexable":177},249,"102629","La población con ingresos de 5 mil reales, ingreso mensual de 5 mil reales y personas que se declaran de centro-derecha, que rechazan al presidente Lula y que se consideran de centro-derecha, pero no necesariamente bolsonaristas.",1343.56,1355.48,{"idx":1770,"utterance_id":1771,"speaker_name":174,"text":1772,"start_s":1773,"end_s":1774,"word_count":479,"topic_slug":1557,"topic_label":1558,"target_id":1775,"target_proposition":1776,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":1777,"indexable":244},250,"102630","Entonces, tenemos un público muy específico donde Flávio Bolsonaro cayó y un público que, si él no entiende las diferencias claras desde ahora, por qué usted es diferente de Flávio Bolsonaro, va a quedarse pensando que no hay... opción, además de Flávio Bolsonaro, para vencer a Lula.",1355.52,1371.94,"1aade163-a86f-452b-aeef-25cbad1822ec","diferenciarse del bolsonarismo para conquistar votantes de centro-derecha","señala la necesidad de mostrar diferencias claras para ese público.",{"idx":1779,"utterance_id":1780,"speaker_name":174,"text":1781,"start_s":1782,"end_s":1783,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},251,"102631","Entonces, vuelvo a la pregunta de Mitri.",1372.28,1374.48,{"idx":1785,"utterance_id":1786,"speaker_name":174,"text":1787,"start_s":1788,"end_s":1789,"word_count":345,"topic_slug":1557,"topic_label":1558,"target_id":1790,"target_proposition":1791,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":452,"rationale":1792,"indexable":244},252,"102632","Usted dice que tiene una senda, una carretera por delante, pero parece reacio a señalar fallas en Flávio Bolsonaro, señalar errores del bolsonarismo.",1374.72,1383.94,"62f7e073-9d75-4795-86ff-322f38057149","señalar fallas del bolsonarismo","critica el temor del candidato a señalar errores del bolsonarismo y exhorta a la acción.",{"idx":1794,"utterance_id":1795,"speaker_name":174,"text":1796,"start_s":1797,"end_s":1798,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},253,"102633","¿Y ahí caemos en ese papel de la centro-derecha secuestrada por el bolsonarismo?",1384.32,1388.82,{"idx":1800,"utterance_id":1801,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1802,"start_s":1803,"end_s":1804,"word_count":383,"topic_slug":1805,"topic_label":87,"target_id":1806,"target_proposition":1807,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":1808,"indexable":244},254,"102634","No, usted no va a ver ningún secuestro de mi parte, porque yo soy un hombre, además de no haber sido nunca secuestrado en mis posiciones políticas, todo demostrado, he mostrado coraje en mi trayectoria.",1389.12,1400.74,"filiacao-partidaria","62631b00-0c44-4f19-a368-eaea7ff8a795","mantenerse fuera de las decisiones del partido","declara no haber sido 'sequestrado' y reafirma su independencia política.",{"idx":1810,"utterance_id":1811,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1812,"start_s":1813,"end_s":1814,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},255,"102635","Nunca fui manipulado en mis programas políticos.",1400.82,1403.34,{"idx":1816,"utterance_id":1817,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1818,"start_s":1819,"end_s":1820,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},256,"102636","Además, en las horas más difíciles, usted vio mi grado de independencia.",1403.74,1409.02,{"idx":1822,"utterance_id":1823,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1824,"start_s":1825,"end_s":1826,"word_count":210,"topic_slug":755,"topic_label":756,"target_id":1827,"target_proposition":1828,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":1829,"indexable":244},257,"102637","Cuando yo, como médico que soy, decreté el aislamiento social y apliqué la vacuna a todo el mundo.",1409.52,1415.4,"7633eb22-1ec7-4936-adc9-f99f1b812276","implementar medidas de salud pública para controlar la pandemia de Covid-19","reivindica haber decretado el aislamiento y aplicado la vacuna, defendiendo esa acción.",{"idx":1831,"utterance_id":1832,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1833,"start_s":1834,"end_s":1835,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},258,"102638","No soy un hombre sometido a nadie.",1416.06,1417.96,{"idx":1837,"utterance_id":1838,"speaker_name":174,"text":1839,"start_s":1840,"end_s":1841,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},259,"102639","Y en su elección que usted ganó, la elección que usted ganó allá contra...",1418.12,1420.88,{"idx":1843,"utterance_id":1844,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1845,"start_s":1846,"end_s":1847,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},260,"102640","Tengo habilidad política.",1420.92,1424.04,{"idx":1849,"utterance_id":1850,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1851,"start_s":1852,"end_s":1853,"word_count":231,"topic_slug":1805,"topic_label":87,"target_id":1854,"target_proposition":1855,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":563,"rationale":1856,"indexable":244},261,"102641","No voy a hacerle el juego al PT, ¿cierto?",1424.64,1427.98,"c152777b-9de3-4dc6-9a8e-2b11792ed9c9","oponerse políticamente al PT","afirma explícitamente 'eu não vou fazer o jogo do PT' como compromiso.",{"idx":1858,"utterance_id":1859,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1860,"start_s":1861,"end_s":1862,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":1863,"topic_label":1864,"target_id":1865,"target_proposition":1866,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":1867,"indexable":244},262,"102642","No voy a hacer ese juego, no voy a romper puentes.",1428.08,1431.26,"aliancas-politicas","Alianzas políticas","225083e5-7509-442f-b880-31a403081a9a","mantener diálogo con otras lideranças políticas","promete 'não desmanchar pontes', defendiendo mantener el diálogo.",{"idx":1869,"utterance_id":1870,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1871,"start_s":1872,"end_s":1873,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},263,"102643","No es porque ocurrió un hecho con un candidato.",1431.92,1434.4,{"idx":1875,"utterance_id":1876,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1877,"start_s":1878,"end_s":1879,"word_count":356,"indexable":177},264,"102644","Ahora, usted podría también mostrar otra etapa de la encuesta, que cuando usted pone la segunda vuelta, entonces sí, con Lula, ahí usted ve a Caiado mejorando la posición.",1435,1447.7,{"idx":1881,"utterance_id":1882,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1883,"start_s":1884,"end_s":1885,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},265,"102645","¿Entiende?",1448.98,1449.46,{"idx":1887,"utterance_id":1888,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1889,"start_s":1890,"end_s":1891,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},266,"102646","Entonces el elector, Adriana, va a empezar a ver también... Quién, al llegar a la segunda vuelta, gana las elecciones.",1449.5,1456.94,{"idx":1893,"utterance_id":1894,"speaker_name":174,"text":1895,"start_s":1896,"end_s":1897,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},267,"102647","Ya está en el aire la proyección de segunda vuelta en caso de que el nombre del señor llegue allí.",1457.4,1463.34,{"idx":1899,"utterance_id":1900,"speaker_name":174,"text":1901,"start_s":1902,"end_s":1903,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},268,"102648","46 para el presidente Lula, 40 para Ronaldo Caiado.",1463.36,1467.14,{"idx":1905,"utterance_id":1906,"speaker_name":174,"text":1907,"start_s":1908,"end_s":1909,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},269,"102649","Lo que ocurre con Zema también.",1467.46,1468.82,{"idx":1911,"utterance_id":1912,"speaker_name":174,"text":1913,"start_s":1914,"end_s":1915,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},270,"102650","Si es Zema quien llega, él también tiene 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ahí.",1479.54,1481.46,{"idx":1941,"utterance_id":1942,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1943,"start_s":1944,"end_s":1945,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},275,"102655","¿Quién realmente podrá?",1482.28,1483.84,{"idx":1947,"utterance_id":1948,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1949,"start_s":1950,"end_s":1951,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},276,"102656","Porque usted tiene que analizar cuál es el factor determinante de esta campaña electoral.",1484.16,1488.44,{"idx":1953,"utterance_id":1954,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1955,"start_s":1956,"end_s":1957,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},277,"102657","Moral.",1491.1,1491.48,{"idx":1959,"utterance_id":1960,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1955,"start_s":1961,"end_s":1962,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},278,"102658",1492.6,1493.02,{"idx":1964,"utterance_id":1965,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1966,"start_s":1967,"end_s":1968,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},279,"102659","Este es el punto de inflexión.",1494.58,1496.66,{"idx":1970,"utterance_id":1971,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1972,"start_s":1973,"end_s":1974,"word_count":217,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1975,"target_proposition":1976,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1977,"rationale":1978,"indexable":244},280,"102660","Un gobierno que construyó a las dos facciones más violentas del país y las más importantes.",1497.1,1502.6,"554b78d9-4efe-4a8b-90b3-63d8efd356b8","reducir homicidios y combatir el crimen organizado",0.86,"atribuye responsabilidad al gobierno y, en el contexto, defiende el enfrentamiento.",{"idx":1980,"utterance_id":1981,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1982,"start_s":1983,"end_s":1984,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},281,"102661","Multinacionales del crimen.",1502.76,1504.2,{"idx":1986,"utterance_id":1987,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1988,"start_s":1989,"end_s":1990,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},282,"102662","PCC y Comando Vermelho.",1504.92,1506.44,{"idx":1992,"utterance_id":1993,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1994,"start_s":1995,"end_s":1996,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":31,"target_id":1997,"target_proposition":1998,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1977,"rationale":1999,"indexable":177},283,"102663","La mayor corrupción en Brasil.",1506.82,1508.28,"69173589-3c47-41dc-a234-53da52e356ea","combatir la 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fermento.",1525.92,1527.32,{"idx":2049,"utterance_id":2050,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2051,"start_s":2052,"end_s":2053,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},292,"102672","¿Usted ha visto levadura para bizcochos?",1527.36,1528.7,{"idx":2055,"utterance_id":2056,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2057,"start_s":2058,"end_s":2059,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},293,"102673","¿Por qué?",1528.96,1529.3,{"idx":2061,"utterance_id":2062,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2063,"start_s":2064,"end_s":2065,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},294,"102674","Porque el bizcocho crece normalmente sin levadura.",1529.36,1531.62,{"idx":2067,"utterance_id":2068,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2069,"start_s":2070,"end_s":2071,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},295,"102675","El PT le puso fermento a eso.",1532.18,1534.68,{"idx":2073,"utterance_id":2074,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2075,"start_s":2076,"end_s":2077,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},296,"102676","¿Ha visto usted algo que tenga la proporción que tienen el Comando Vermelho y el PCC en el mundo?",1535.12,1539.78,{"idx":2079,"utterance_id":2080,"speaker_name":174,"text":2081,"start_s":2082,"end_s":2083,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},297,"102677","Estoy viendo, es un buen debate en la Band y el señor es Lula.",1539.82,1542.22,{"idx":2085,"utterance_id":2086,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2087,"start_s":2088,"end_s":2089,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},298,"102678","¿Usted ha visto a alguien?",1542.26,1543.82,{"idx":2091,"utterance_id":2092,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2093,"start_s":2094,"end_s":2095,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},299,"102679","Entonces, el PT no... 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Brasil?",1591.18,1597.72,{"idx":2168,"utterance_id":2169,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2170,"start_s":2171,"end_s":2172,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},312,"102692","Un palmo de tierra.",1597.84,1598.84,{"idx":28,"utterance_id":2174,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2175,"start_s":2176,"end_s":2177,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},"102693","No manda, Vitro.",1600.36,1601.46,{"idx":2179,"utterance_id":2180,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2181,"start_s":2182,"end_s":2183,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},314,"102694","El presidente de la República sí tiene poca autoridad moral.",1602.18,1607.02,{"idx":2185,"utterance_id":2186,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2140,"start_s":2187,"end_s":2188,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},315,"102695",1607.7,1608.1,{"idx":2190,"utterance_id":2191,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2192,"start_s":2193,"end_s":2194,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},316,"102696","No hay ese cuento de que no, que no se puede.",1608.42,1610.8,{"idx":2196,"utterance_id":2197,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2198,"start_s":2199,"end_s":2200,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2201,"target_proposition":2202,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":410,"rationale":2203,"indexable":244},317,"102697","Los voy a tratar como terroristas, voy a usar las fuerzas de seguridad, ejército, aeronáutica, marina, las fuerzas estatales y voy a hacer un combate severo.",1611.12,1621.68,"3d592099-6aa1-4f88-8728-4af28013f524","emplear fuerzas armadas para reocupar territorios controlados por facciones criminales","declara que usará el ejército, la marina y las policías para 'combate severo'.",{"idx":2205,"utterance_id":2206,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2207,"start_s":2208,"end_s":2209,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},318,"102698","para poder rescatar la soberanía brasileña.",1622.24,1626.82,{"idx":2211,"utterance_id":2212,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2213,"start_s":2214,"end_s":2215,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},319,"102699","Primer punto para que Brasil crezca.",1627.36,1629.04,{"idx":2217,"utterance_id":2218,"speaker_name":174,"text":2219,"start_s":2220,"end_s":2221,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},320,"102700","Gobernador, déjeme ahora profundizar un poco.",1629.74,1632.1,{"idx":2223,"utterance_id":2224,"speaker_name":174,"text":2225,"start_s":2226,"end_s":2227,"word_count":330,"indexable":177},321,"102701","Ya comenzamos a hablar de programa, creo que interesa mucho para nuestro televidente entender cuál es la visión de Ronaldo Caiado sobre Brasil.",1632.14,1642,{"idx":2229,"utterance_id":2230,"speaker_name":174,"text":2231,"start_s":2232,"end_s":2233,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},322,"102702","Y creo que, en primer lugar, hay muchas cuestiones evidentes, pero vamos allá.",1642.3,1646.06,{"idx":2235,"utterance_id":2236,"speaker_name":174,"text":2237,"start_s":2238,"end_s":2239,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},323,"102703","Una primera cuestión es el tema del dilema fiscal brasileño, el dilema económico brasileño.",1646.78,1652.86,{"idx":2241,"utterance_id":2242,"speaker_name":174,"text":2243,"start_s":2244,"end_s":2245,"word_count":9,"indexable":177},324,"102704","Tenemos una perspectiva, la de la institución fiscal independiente del Senado, mostrando el crecimiento de la deuda pública brasileña en estos cuatro años del 10% del PIB.",1652.94,1662.78,{"idx":2247,"utterance_id":2248,"speaker_name":174,"text":2249,"start_s":2250,"end_s":2251,"word_count":297,"indexable":177},325,"102705","Entonces estamos creciendo, eso representa más de un billón de reales de deuda pública brasileña en estos cuatro 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el presidente va a tener que enfrentar?",1701.7,1708.78,{"idx":2301,"utterance_id":2302,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2303,"start_s":2304,"end_s":2305,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},334,"102714","Estoy de acuerdo.",1709.54,1710.12,{"idx":2307,"utterance_id":2308,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2309,"start_s":2310,"end_s":2311,"word_count":383,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":26,"target_id":2312,"target_proposition":2313,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":2314,"rationale":2315,"indexable":244},335,"102715","Pero creo que antes de que usted diagnostique que hay un billón 400 mil millones de reales que no caben en el presupuesto brasileño, tiene que imaginar quién llevó esto a esa situación.",1710.74,1721.32,"bc14ab4c-88ca-4157-8c12-fe2041dc5bee","restaurar la responsabilidad fiscal y la gestión pública",0.82,"atribuye la deuda a la 'gastança' y defiende conocer la causa y controlar los 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casualidad.",1742.04,1743.62,{"idx":2341,"utterance_id":2342,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2343,"start_s":2344,"end_s":2345,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},340,"102720","Dilma hizo lo mismo cuando estuvo en el Dilma II.",1744.3,1746.94,{"idx":2347,"utterance_id":2348,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2349,"start_s":2350,"end_s":2351,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},341,"102721","Se perdieron 4 millones de empleos en Brasil.",1748.7,1750.98,{"idx":2353,"utterance_id":2354,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2355,"start_s":2356,"end_s":2357,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},342,"102722","Entonces, eso, esa historieta, ya la hemos visto.",1752.18,1755.44,{"idx":2359,"utterance_id":2360,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2361,"start_s":2362,"end_s":2363,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},343,"102723","Pero el problema ahora le explotó a Lula antes de llegar a la 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médico.",1770.5,1771.22,{"idx":2394,"utterance_id":2395,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2396,"start_s":2397,"end_s":2398,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},349,"102729","No se emite diagnóstico sin conocer la causa.",1771.58,1773.44,{"idx":2400,"utterance_id":2401,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2402,"start_s":2403,"end_s":2404,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},350,"102730","Pero no es médico primario.",1774.12,1775.2,{"idx":2406,"utterance_id":2407,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2140,"start_s":2408,"end_s":2409,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},351,"102731",1775.3,1776.16,{"idx":2411,"utterance_id":2412,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2413,"start_s":2414,"end_s":2415,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},352,"102732","Entonces, ¿cuál es la causa que fue provocada por eso?",1776.46,1778.6,{"idx":2417,"utterance_id":2418,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2419,"start_s":2420,"end_s":2421,"word_count":278,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":26,"target_id":2422,"target_proposition":2423,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":2424,"rationale":2425,"indexable":244},353,"102733","Ese despilfarro irresponsable sin construir ningún proyecto estructurante para el país, sin aumentar las riquezas de Brasil, sin estimular el ahorro.",1779.5,1788.48,"521e1e88-26c6-450d-8a26-9d89be196e6c","implementar proyectos estructurantes para estimular crecimiento y ahorro",0.83,"critica la falta de proyectos estructurantes y dice que fomentará la riqueza y el ahorro.",{"idx":2427,"utterance_id":2428,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2429,"start_s":2430,"end_s":2431,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},354,"102734","Entonces él viene y dice lo siguiente.",1788.68,1789.9,{"idx":2433,"utterance_id":2434,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2435,"start_s":2436,"end_s":2437,"word_count":324,"indexable":177},355,"102735","Ahora voy a decirle al ciudadano brasileño: soy el bueno, ahora voy a reducir aquí el impuesto sobre el producto importado de las blusitas.",1790.3,1800.98,{"idx":2439,"utterance_id":2440,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2441,"start_s":2442,"end_s":2443,"word_count":43,"indexable":177},356,"102736","Pero mire, ese mismo gobierno que las implantó hace tres años, entonces ¿cuál es la credibilidad moral que tiene un hombre así para ser presidente de la República?",1802.08,1811.54,{"idx":2445,"utterance_id":2446,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2447,"start_s":2448,"end_s":2449,"word_count":224,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":26,"target_id":2450,"target_proposition":2451,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":2452,"indexable":244},357,"102737","Él va a afectar a las empresas brasileñas, que ya todas se están yendo a Paraguay.",1812.46,1816.32,"52a9725f-8340-4134-adc9-f910d26ae9c9","adoptar políticas para retener y atraer empresas en Brasil","afirma que las empresas se están yendo y defiende medidas para retener la inversión.",{"idx":2454,"utterance_id":2455,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2456,"start_s":2457,"end_s":2458,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},358,"102738","Ya son más de 240 empresas brasileñas.",1816.78,1819.18,{"idx":2460,"utterance_id":2461,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2462,"start_s":2463,"end_s":2464,"word_count":330,"indexable":177},359,"102739","La empresa brasileña va a Paraguay, abre un e-commerce, manda la blusita a Paraguay y hace que llegue a tu casa en un paquetito.",1819.56,1828.8,{"idx":2466,"utterance_id":2467,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2468,"start_s":2469,"end_s":2470,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},360,"102740","¿Eso es lo que está haciendo?",1829.38,1830.3,{"idx":2472,"utterance_id":2473,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2474,"start_s":2475,"end_s":2476,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},361,"102741","¿Es ese el Brasil que nosotros queremos?",1831.12,1832.94,{"idx":2478,"utterance_id":2479,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2480,"start_s":2481,"end_s":2482,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},362,"102742","Ah, pero ahora tengo a alguien que lo desenreda.",1833.34,1834.88,{"idx":2484,"utterance_id":2485,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2486,"start_s":2487,"end_s":2488,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},363,"102743","Entonces pregunto, señor Lula, ¿quién fue el que engañó?",1835.56,1837.56,{"idx":2490,"utterance_id":2491,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2492,"start_s":2493,"end_s":2494,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},364,"102744","¿Quién fue el que engañó al pueblo brasileño?",1838.6,1842.08,{"idx":2496,"utterance_id":2497,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2140,"start_s":2498,"end_s":2499,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},365,"102745",1842.6,1843.08,{"idx":2501,"utterance_id":2502,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2503,"start_s":2504,"end_s":2505,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},366,"102746","En toda esa deuda en la que él está metido.",1843.12,1845.06,{"idx":2507,"utterance_id":2508,"speaker_name":174,"text":2509,"start_s":2510,"end_s":2511,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},367,"102747","El diagnóstico que usted tiene, vemos que usted tiene el diagnóstico.",1845.14,1848.74,{"idx":2513,"utterance_id":2514,"speaker_name":174,"text":2515,"start_s":2516,"end_s":2517,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},368,"102748","La solución.",1849.08,1849.82,{"idx":2519,"utterance_id":2520,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2521,"start_s":2522,"end_s":2523,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},369,"102749","El primero de enero, usted se sienta en la silla.",1849.98,1853.4,{"idx":2525,"utterance_id":2526,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2527,"start_s":2528,"end_s":2529,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},370,"102750","Pero la gente no puede imaginar que eso haya caído del cielo.",1853.6,1856.78,{"idx":2531,"utterance_id":2532,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2140,"start_s":2533,"end_s":2534,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},371,"102751",1856.82,1858.06,{"idx":2536,"utterance_id":2537,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2538,"start_s":2539,"end_s":2540,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},372,"102752","Porque hoy el ciudadano está aplaudiendo y lo está viendo.",1858.1,1860.38,{"idx":2542,"utterance_id":2543,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2544,"start_s":2545,"end_s":2546,"word_count":297,"indexable":177},373,"102753","Soy buenito, te voy a dar el FGTS para que pagues una deuda a un usurero llamado Lula.",1860.66,1866.62,{"idx":2548,"utterance_id":2549,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2550,"start_s":2551,"end_s":2552,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},374,"102754","Lula es el gran usurero.",1867.22,1868.5,{"idx":2554,"utterance_id":2555,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2556,"start_s":2557,"end_s":2558,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},375,"102755","Es él quien está metiendo todo ese dineral, el FGTS, en los bancos, en las tarjetas de crédito.",1869.5,1874.18,{"idx":2560,"utterance_id":2561,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2562,"start_s":2563,"end_s":2564,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},376,"102756","Es cierto que hoy están cobrando una tasa del 400%.",1874.22,1877.16,{"idx":2566,"utterance_id":2567,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2568,"start_s":2569,"end_s":2570,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},377,"102757","Entonces, esa es una realidad.",1877.2,1879.74,{"idx":2572,"utterance_id":2573,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2574,"start_s":2575,"end_s":2576,"word_count":21,"indexable":177},378,"102758","No podemos permitir, tampoco podemos simplemente llegar y decir 'vamos a arreglar', sin mostrar quién fue el que hizo esto.",1879.8,1887.64,{"idx":2578,"utterance_id":2579,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2580,"start_s":2581,"end_s":2582,"word_count":297,"indexable":177},379,"102759","Porque si Brasil hubiese sido gobernado por mí, yo no estaría en esta condición, además porque Goiás no está.",1887.68,1893.22,{"idx":2584,"utterance_id":2585,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2586,"start_s":2587,"end_s":2588,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},380,"102760","Lo recibí con déficit fiscal.",1893.72,1895.44,{"idx":2590,"utterance_id":2591,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2592,"start_s":2593,"end_s":2594,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":2595,"topic_label":2596,"target_id":2597,"target_proposition":2598,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":2599,"indexable":244},381,"102761","Lo presenté y lo entregué con R$ 9,8 mil millones en caja, sin ningún deudor y con todos los programas preparados.",1895.9,1903.24,"politica-fiscal-e-social","Política Fiscal y Social","e3636593-de8a-4d9c-b22a-f56c5ccf1046","implementar control de gastos públicos y políticas de austeridad fiscal","afirma haber entregado Goiás con caja y dice que replicaría una gestión responsable.",{"idx":2601,"utterance_id":2602,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2603,"start_s":2604,"end_s":2605,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},382,"102762","Entonces, Brasil, en la situación que usted plantea, yo sé hacerlo.",1903.32,1907.68,{"idx":2607,"utterance_id":2608,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2609,"start_s":2610,"end_s":2611,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":2612,"topic_label":2613,"target_id":2614,"target_proposition":2615,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":2616,"indexable":244},383,"102763","Y los encaminaré el primer día, no lo dejaré para el segundo.",1908.06,1910.48,"reformas","Reformas","633a615d-8310-442e-9b39-e6172feaf679","enviar un paquete amplio de reformas al Congreso Nacional al inicio del gobierno","promete enviar todas las reformas el primer día de gobierno.",{"idx":2618,"utterance_id":2619,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2620,"start_s":2621,"end_s":2622,"word_count":212,"topic_slug":62,"topic_label":58,"target_id":2623,"target_proposition":2624,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":410,"rationale":2625,"indexable":177},384,"102764","Revisar la reforma tributaria, ¿está bien?",1911.88,1914.6,"e9881e9f-2331-446b-8094-7524cd8daba6","revisar puntos de la reforma tributaria","declara explícitamente 'vou rever a reforma tributária'.",{"idx":2627,"utterance_id":2628,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2629,"start_s":2630,"end_s":2631,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},385,"102765","Voy a revisar la reforma tributaria.",1914.64,1916.12,{"idx":2633,"utterance_id":2634,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2635,"start_s":2636,"end_s":2637,"word_count":212,"topic_slug":2638,"topic_label":2639,"target_id":2640,"target_proposition":2641,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":563,"rationale":2642,"indexable":177},386,"102766","Reforma administrativa, reforma política, ¿está bien?",1916.64,1921.12,"reforma-politica","Reforma política","e1fee666-a30e-4a9b-977f-1bc9cafcef0c","revisar la reforma administrativa","incluye 'reforma administrativa' entre las reformas que impulsará.",{"idx":2644,"utterance_id":2645,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2646,"start_s":2647,"end_s":2648,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},387,"102767","Reforma laboral.",1921.5,1922.92,{"idx":2650,"utterance_id":2651,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2652,"start_s":2653,"end_s":2654,"word_count":290,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2655,"target_proposition":2656,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1192,"rationale":2657,"indexable":177},388,"102768","Encaminaré todas ellas el primer día de mi gobierno, junto con el terrorismo y junto con la amnistía.",1923.34,1930.46,"785e0454-58b6-4f1e-b02a-808cd4353aab","combatir el terrorismo","informa que incluirá 'terrorismo' en la agenda, pero el contexto es vago.",{"idx":2659,"utterance_id":2660,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2661,"start_s":2662,"end_s":2663,"word_count":59,"indexable":177},389,"102769","Todos ellos entrarán en la agenda el día 5 de enero, el día en que tomo posesión de la Presidencia de la República.",1931,1937.74,{"idx":2665,"utterance_id":2666,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2667,"start_s":2668,"end_s":2669,"word_count":231,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":26,"target_id":2670,"target_proposition":2671,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":563,"rationale":2672,"indexable":244},390,"102770","Entonces, ahí sí, sabré hacer los recortes necesarios.",1937.78,1941.38,"ebaf279f-2ae3-4cc9-9d95-81d3d07b6c09","reducir el gasto público","promete 'fazer os cortes necessários' para ajustar las cuentas.",{"idx":2674,"utterance_id":2675,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2676,"start_s":2677,"end_s":2678,"word_count":297,"indexable":177},391,"102771","Para que pueda decirle al empresario, le garantizo que hoy el 80% de la deuda\u002FPIB está aquí.",1941.82,1948.32,{"idx":2680,"utterance_id":2681,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2682,"start_s":2683,"end_s":2684,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},392,"102772","No sé si en el primer año podré con ello, pero lo bajaré al 79%.",1948.8,1955.56,{"idx":2686,"utterance_id":2687,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2688,"start_s":2684,"end_s":2689,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},393,"102773","1% al año.",1957.48,{"idx":2691,"utterance_id":2692,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2693,"start_s":2694,"end_s":2695,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},394,"102774","En el primer año queda esa duda, todavía estoy terminando los cálculos.",1958.14,1961.96,{"idx":2697,"utterance_id":2698,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2699,"start_s":2700,"end_s":2701,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":26,"target_id":2702,"target_proposition":2703,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":2704,"indexable":244},395,"102775","Yo estabilizo la deuda\u002FPIB y cada año la reduzco un 1%.",1962.54,1966.2,"b1066307-2079-46cd-a8e8-557d31a5b7d2","reducir la deuda pública como proporción del PIB","se compromete a estabilizar deuda\u002FPIB y reducir 1 punto porcentual por año",{"idx":2706,"utterance_id":2707,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2708,"start_s":2709,"end_s":2710,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},396,"102776","Ese es mi proyecto para trabajar en ese sentido.",1966.8,1970,{"idx":2712,"utterance_id":2713,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2714,"start_s":2715,"end_s":2716,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},397,"102777","Si yo digo eso a los empresarios, invertirán en Brasil.",1970.22,1974.26,{"idx":2718,"utterance_id":2719,"speaker_name":174,"text":2720,"start_s":2721,"end_s":2722,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},398,"102778","Dmitry está ansioso por hacer una pregunta.",1974.32,1976.7,{"idx":2724,"utterance_id":2725,"speaker_name":174,"text":2726,"start_s":2727,"end_s":2728,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},399,"102779","Hazla ahora y lo dejamos para el próximo bloque, ¿o quieres?",1976.76,1979.28,{"idx":2730,"utterance_id":2731,"speaker_name":174,"text":2732,"start_s":2733,"end_s":2734,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},400,"102780","La pregunta es un poco complementaria a lo que el gobernador está diciendo.",1979.6,1983.02,{"idx":2736,"utterance_id":2737,"speaker_name":174,"text":2738,"start_s":2739,"end_s":2740,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},401,"102781","Si usted toma la historia reciente de Brasil, no me refiero a los últimos gobiernos, no.",1983.68,1987.94,{"idx":2742,"utterance_id":2743,"speaker_name":174,"text":2744,"start_s":2745,"end_s":2746,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},402,"102782","Estoy hablando de 50 años.",1987.98,1989.52,{"idx":2748,"utterance_id":2749,"speaker_name":174,"text":2750,"start_s":2751,"end_s":2752,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},403,"102783","Es algo impresionante.",1989.94,1991.36,{"idx":2754,"utterance_id":2755,"speaker_name":174,"text":2756,"start_s":2757,"end_s":2758,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},404,"102784","Brasil, el crecimiento de Brasil es absurdo.",1991.72,1996.72,{"idx":2760,"utterance_id":2761,"speaker_name":174,"text":2762,"start_s":2763,"end_s":2764,"word_count":15,"indexable":177},405,"102785","Si se compara Brasil, siempre digo, cuando Nixon y Mao Tse Tung se dieron la mano, en la distensión, China tenía un PIB menor que el PIB de Brasil.",1997.22,2006.22,{"idx":2766,"utterance_id":2767,"speaker_name":174,"text":2768,"start_s":2769,"end_s":2770,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},406,"102786","Entonces, parece que es una maldición que afecta a todos los gobiernos.",2007.54,2011.4,{"idx":2772,"utterance_id":2773,"speaker_name":174,"text":2774,"start_s":2775,"end_s":2776,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},407,"102787","La maldición no es la corrupción.",2011.66,2012.7,{"idx":2778,"utterance_id":2779,"speaker_name":174,"text":2780,"start_s":2781,"end_s":2782,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},408,"102788","Sí, pero entonces quiero que usted explique eso.",2012.88,2015.06,{"idx":2784,"utterance_id":2785,"speaker_name":174,"text":2786,"start_s":2787,"end_s":2788,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},409,"102789","¿Cuál es esa antemagia que impide a Brasil crecer a lo largo de 50 años?",2016.44,2021.52,{"idx":2790,"utterance_id":2791,"speaker_name":174,"text":2792,"start_s":2793,"end_s":2794,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},410,"102790","No estoy hablando del último gobierno, que ahí es fácil hacer la oposición.",2021.88,2026.26,{"idx":2796,"utterance_id":2797,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2798,"start_s":2799,"end_s":2800,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},411,"102791","Pero usted allí en esa época, el PIB brasileño, ¿cierto?",2026.42,2031.36,{"idx":2802,"utterance_id":2803,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2804,"start_s":2805,"end_s":2806,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},412,"102792","Porcentualmente, en el PIB mundial, era mayor que el de China y el de India.",2032,2036.84,{"idx":2808,"utterance_id":2809,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2810,"start_s":2811,"end_s":2812,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},413,"102793","Tranquilo, ni siquiera hace 50 años.",2037.6,2039.3,{"idx":2814,"utterance_id":2815,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2816,"start_s":2817,"end_s":2818,"word_count":278,"indexable":177},414,"102794","Hace 40 años, hace 20 años, la red de metro de Río de Janeiro era mayor que la de Shanghái.",2039.34,2045.68,{"idx":2820,"utterance_id":2821,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2822,"start_s":2823,"end_s":2824,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},415,"102795","Entonces, esas cosas son una realidad.",2046.78,2049.72,{"idx":2826,"utterance_id":2827,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2828,"start_s":2829,"end_s":2830,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},416,"102796","Usted continuó con 20 años.",2050.7,2052.46,{"idx":2832,"utterance_id":2833,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2834,"start_s":2835,"end_s":2836,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},417,"102797","Ahora, ¿cuál fue el único proyecto estructurante que Brasil tuvo?",2052.56,2055.84,{"idx":2838,"utterance_id":2839,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2840,"start_s":2841,"end_s":2842,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},418,"102798","El de Geisel, el Proalco.",2056.48,2058.18,{"idx":2844,"utterance_id":2845,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2846,"start_s":2847,"end_s":2848,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},419,"102799","Usted nunca más tuvo un proyecto estructurante en el país.",2058.22,2061.06,{"idx":2850,"utterance_id":2851,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2852,"start_s":2853,"end_s":2854,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},420,"102800","Nunca.",2061.32,2061.62,{"idx":2856,"utterance_id":2857,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2858,"start_s":2859,"end_s":2860,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},421,"102801","Usted no tiene ningún proyecto para desarrollar las riquezas del país.",2061.66,2065.72,{"idx":2862,"utterance_id":2863,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2864,"start_s":2865,"end_s":2866,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},422,"102802","Usted no tiene.",2065.76,2066.46,{"idx":2868,"utterance_id":2869,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2870,"start_s":2871,"end_s":2872,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},423,"102803","Es un gobierno que piensa en ese asunto, en ese politiqueo rastrero, que usted ve que no gana nada.",2067.3,2075.32,{"idx":2874,"utterance_id":2875,"speaker_name":174,"text":2876,"start_s":2877,"end_s":2878,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},424,"102804","En la próxima elección, no en la próxima generación.",2075.36,2078.02,{"idx":2880,"utterance_id":2881,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2882,"start_s":2883,"end_s":2884,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},425,"102805","Ese hecho que usted mencionó es porque también hace 40 años nosotros teníamos el doble.",2078.5,2083.84,{"idx":2886,"utterance_id":2887,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2888,"start_s":2889,"end_s":2890,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},426,"102806","del PIB respecto a China comparado con la India también.",2084.5,2087.34,{"idx":2892,"utterance_id":2893,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2894,"start_s":2895,"end_s":2896,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},427,"102807","¿Por qué hoy estamos metidos?",2087.64,2089.02,{"idx":2898,"utterance_id":2899,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2900,"start_s":2901,"end_s":2902,"word_count":345,"indexable":177},428,"102808","De esos 37 años, 36 ahora, después de ese período del régimen militar, ¿por qué tenemos ese declive todo y el PT quedó al mando 20 años?",2089.6,2102.74,{"idx":2904,"utterance_id":2905,"speaker_name":174,"text":2906,"start_s":2907,"end_s":2908,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},429,"102809","¿Hay otra duda?",2104.08,2104.9,{"idx":2910,"utterance_id":2911,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2912,"start_s":2913,"end_s":2914,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},430,"102810","El diagnóstico está ahí.",2105.26,2106.22,{"idx":2916,"utterance_id":2917,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2918,"start_s":2919,"end_s":2920,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},431,"102811","Entonces el diagnóstico, ellos se quedaron en el poder 20 años.",2107.18,2109.82,{"idx":2922,"utterance_id":2923,"speaker_name":174,"text":2924,"start_s":2925,"end_s":2926,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},432,"102812","Bueno, muchas preguntas aún para usted esta noche.",2110.68,2112.72,{"idx":2928,"utterance_id":2929,"speaker_name":174,"text":2930,"start_s":2931,"end_s":2932,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},433,"102813","Vamos a un breve intervalo; continuamos en el próximo bloque.",2112.76,2114.96,{"idx":2934,"utterance_id":2935,"speaker_name":174,"text":2936,"start_s":2937,"end_s":2938,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},434,"102814","Volvemos con esta entrevista con Ronaldo Caiado, precandidato por el PSD a la Presidencia de la República.",2115.02,2120.16,{"idx":2940,"utterance_id":2941,"speaker_name":174,"text":2942,"start_s":2943,"end_s":2944,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},435,"102815","Enseguida.",2120.22,2120.46,{"idx":2946,"utterance_id":2947,"speaker_name":174,"text":2948,"start_s":2949,"end_s":2950,"word_count":21,"indexable":177},436,"102816","Estamos de vuelta con Canal Livre, que esta noche recibe al exgobernador de Goiás y precandidato al Planalto (Palacio Presidencial), Ronaldo Caiado.",2132.34,2140.06,{"idx":2952,"utterance_id":2953,"speaker_name":174,"text":2954,"start_s":2955,"end_s":2956,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},437,"102817","Schiller, es su turno.",2140.42,2141.48,{"idx":2958,"utterance_id":2959,"speaker_name":174,"text":2960,"start_s":2961,"end_s":2962,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},438,"102818","Bueno, voy a partir de la pregunta de Mitra, que parece la gran cuestión.",2141.62,2144.84,{"idx":2964,"utterance_id":2965,"speaker_name":174,"text":2966,"start_s":2967,"end_s":2968,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},439,"102819","De hecho, me encantaría que esa fuera la gran cuestión de las elecciones en Brasil.",2144.98,2148.84,{"idx":2970,"utterance_id":2971,"speaker_name":174,"text":2972,"start_s":2973,"end_s":2974,"word_count":59,"indexable":177},440,"102820","Porque vamos, si tomamos 1980, la productividad media del trabajador brasileño era más o menos el 45% de la productividad del trabajador estadounidense.",2149.64,2157.52,{"idx":2976,"utterance_id":2977,"speaker_name":174,"text":2978,"start_s":2979,"end_s":2980,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},441,"102821","Cuarenta y pocos años después es una cuarta parte, es 25%.",2158.02,2161.44,{"idx":2982,"utterance_id":2983,"speaker_name":174,"text":2984,"start_s":2985,"end_s":2986,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},442,"102822","Entonces hemos caído.",2161.66,2162.94,{"idx":2988,"utterance_id":2989,"speaker_name":174,"text":2990,"start_s":2991,"end_s":2992,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},443,"102823","Hemos retrocedido.",2163.4,2164.04,{"idx":2994,"utterance_id":2995,"speaker_name":174,"text":2996,"start_s":2997,"end_s":2998,"word_count":383,"indexable":177},444,"102824","Corea del Sur es lo contrario, entonces es una X. Si Brasil va hacia abajo, nosotros vamos... ¿Y cuál es el paquete Caiado, cuál es el... para revertir esto?",2164.26,2174.86,{"idx":3000,"utterance_id":3001,"speaker_name":174,"text":3002,"start_s":3003,"end_s":3004,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},445,"102825","La productividad es algo muy complejo, no existe bala de plata, es un montón de cosas.",2175.18,2178.46,{"idx":3006,"utterance_id":3007,"speaker_name":174,"text":3008,"start_s":3009,"end_s":3010,"word_count":43,"indexable":177},446,"102826","Pero creo que lo que se espera de un presidente de la República es proponer un proyecto para el país que realmente revierta esta situación, que es histórica.",2179.22,2185.98,{"idx":3012,"utterance_id":3013,"speaker_name":174,"text":3014,"start_s":3015,"end_s":3016,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},447,"102827","¿Cuál es la visión, Ronaldo Caiado, sobre la productividad en Brasil, medio plazo, largo plazo, para revertir esta situación?",2186.58,2192.6,{"idx":3018,"utterance_id":3019,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3020,"start_s":3021,"end_s":3022,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},448,"102828","Mire, usted planteó algo bueno.",2192.86,2194.64,{"idx":3024,"utterance_id":3025,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3026,"start_s":3027,"end_s":3028,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},449,"102829","Por ejemplo, interesante, Noruega superó a los americanos.",2194.7,2197.96,{"idx":3030,"utterance_id":3031,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3032,"start_s":3033,"end_s":3034,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},450,"102830","Noruega hoy, la hora trabajada aporta 90 dólares al PIB del país.",2198.38,2203.04,{"idx":3036,"utterance_id":3037,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3038,"start_s":3039,"end_s":3040,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},451,"102831","En Brasil es 19 dólares.",2203.46,2205.34,{"idx":3042,"utterance_id":3043,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3044,"start_s":3045,"end_s":3046,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},452,"102832","Estados Unidos está en el segundo lugar.",2205.8,2207.76,{"idx":3048,"utterance_id":3049,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3050,"start_s":3051,"end_s":3052,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},453,"102833","Entre hora trabajada y PIB, incremento al PIB de cada uno de los países.",2208.3,2214.14,{"idx":3054,"utterance_id":3055,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3056,"start_s":3057,"end_s":3058,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},454,"102834","Brasil está por el puesto 25º en relación al incremento por hora trabajada.",2214.36,2219.06,{"idx":3060,"utterance_id":3061,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3062,"start_s":3063,"end_s":3064,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},455,"102835","Entonces, esa realidad que usted planteó, el diagnóstico está hecho.",2219.46,2222.7,{"idx":3066,"utterance_id":3067,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3068,"start_s":3069,"end_s":3070,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},456,"102836","Vea bien, ¿cuál fue la preocupación de Ronaldo Caiado cuando llegó al gobierno?",2222.8,2227.04,{"idx":3072,"utterance_id":3073,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3074,"start_s":3075,"end_s":3076,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},457,"102837","Soy médico, fui profesor.",2227.62,2230.18,{"idx":3078,"utterance_id":3079,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3080,"start_s":3081,"end_s":3082,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},458,"102838","No puede imaginarse, soy el primer lugar en Brasil en educación.",2231.34,2235,{"idx":3084,"utterance_id":3085,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3086,"start_s":3087,"end_s":3088,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},459,"102839","Primer lugar en Brasil.",2236.04,2237.24,{"idx":3090,"utterance_id":3091,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3092,"start_s":3093,"end_s":3094,"word_count":485,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3095,"target_proposition":3096,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":3097,"indexable":244},460,"102840","Soy una persona que da clases a mis alumnos, veo a mis alumnos, reviso mis colegios, me preocupo por no tener deserción escolar, me preocupo por tener un aula digna para los jóvenes, laboratorio de física, química, biología, informática, robótica.",2238.06,2253.76,"fb146b6d-3f05-40af-af81-4dc606bcab11","expandir la inversión en la educación básica pública","defiende aulas dignas y laboratorios para jóvenes, propuesta explícita de mejora escolar",{"idx":3099,"utterance_id":3100,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3101,"start_s":3102,"end_s":3103,"word_count":324,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3095,"target_proposition":3096,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":3104,"indexable":244},461,"102841","Quiero que mis jóvenes tengan una alimentación de calidad, todos bien uniformados en cuanto a tener sus uniformes.",2254.26,2262.34,"propone alimentación de calidad y uniformes para estudiantes como prioridad",{"idx":3106,"utterance_id":3107,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3108,"start_s":3109,"end_s":3110,"word_count":290,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3095,"target_proposition":3096,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":3111,"indexable":244},462,"102842","Un Chromebook de Google, desde el noveno año de la enseñanza fundamental hasta el tercer año de la enseñanza media.",2263.34,2268.78,"defiende distribuir Chromebooks a estudiantes desde la educación primaria hasta la secundaria",{"idx":3113,"utterance_id":3114,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3115,"start_s":3116,"end_s":3117,"word_count":191,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3095,"target_proposition":3096,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":563,"rationale":3118,"indexable":244},463,"102843","Premios sucesivos a los colegios que se destacan más en las notas del Enem.",2269.42,2274.14,"propone premios para las escuelas con mejores notas en el Enem como política educativa",{"idx":3120,"utterance_id":3121,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3122,"start_s":3123,"end_s":3124,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3095,"target_proposition":3096,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":3125,"indexable":244},464,"102844","Todo esto directamente, el gobernador tratando directamente con esos jóvenes.",2274.86,2279.94,"defiende la actuación directa del gobernador con jóvenes y escuelas como política pública",{"idx":3127,"utterance_id":3128,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3129,"start_s":3130,"end_s":3131,"word_count":290,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3132,"target_proposition":3133,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":3134,"rationale":3135,"indexable":177},465,"102845","Cuando llegué al gobierno de Goiás, tenía 1.073 jóvenes condenados por delitos y tráfico de drogas.",2280.24,2288.86,"898288f5-2705-4861-b416-0cd1aff383f2","reducir la vinculación de jóvenes con la delincuencia",0.72,"cita número de jóvenes condenados al asumir el gobierno — relato estadístico",{"idx":3137,"utterance_id":3138,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3139,"start_s":3140,"end_s":3141,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},466,"102846","1.073.",2288.88,2289.06,{"idx":3143,"utterance_id":3144,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2057,"start_s":3145,"end_s":3146,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},467,"102847",2290.84,2291.14,{"idx":3148,"utterance_id":3149,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3150,"start_s":3151,"end_s":3152,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},468,"102848","Porque hoy hay que preocuparse; usted me preguntó eso y yo se lo voy a decir.",2291.62,2294.72,{"idx":3154,"utterance_id":3155,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3156,"start_s":3157,"end_s":3158,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},469,"102849","¿Sabe cuánto es hoy ese porcentaje en Río de Janeiro, en los estados, en el interior de ese estado del Nordeste?",2296.36,2304.3,{"idx":3160,"utterance_id":3161,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3162,"start_s":3163,"end_s":3164,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3165,"target_proposition":3166,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":3167,"indexable":177},470,"102850","Es casi la totalidad de la juventud, porque allí el joven solo tiene esperanza de salir adelante en la vida si pertenece al narcotráfico.",2305.24,2312.24,"d669b444-481a-4d66-96ce-981b1d253a20","reducir la participación de jóvenes en el narcotráfico","afirma que los jóvenes ven en el narcotráfico la única salida — explicación causal.",{"idx":3169,"utterance_id":3170,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3171,"start_s":3172,"end_s":3173,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},471,"102851","Y allí tendrá la mejor novia, el mejor coche, la mejor moto, la mejor ropa.",2312.8,2317.42,{"idx":3175,"utterance_id":3176,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3177,"start_s":3178,"end_s":3179,"word_count":219,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3132,"target_proposition":3133,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":3134,"rationale":3180,"indexable":177},472,"102852","Entonces, en Goiás había 1.073 jóvenes condenados.",2317.96,2321.74,"reitera el número de jóvenes condenados en Goiás como dato descriptivo.",{"idx":3182,"utterance_id":3183,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3184,"start_s":3185,"end_s":3186,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},473,"102853","¿Sabe cuántos entregué al dejar el gobierno, a mi vicegobernador?",2322.04,2325.38,{"idx":3188,"utterance_id":3189,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3190,"start_s":3191,"end_s":3192,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},474,"102854","168 jóvenes.",2325.4,2327.88,{"idx":3194,"utterance_id":3195,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3196,"start_s":3197,"end_s":3198,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},475,"102855","Fíjese bien, eso es lo que es seguridad.",2328.36,2330.26,{"idx":3200,"utterance_id":3201,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3202,"start_s":3203,"end_s":3204,"word_count":324,"indexable":177},476,"102856","Pero en un país en el que se tiene a MC Pose y a Oruan como líderes de la juventud, no se puede crear ese país.",2330.42,2338.5,{"idx":3206,"utterance_id":3207,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3208,"start_s":3209,"end_s":3210,"word_count":262,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3095,"target_proposition":3096,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":410,"rationale":3211,"indexable":244},477,"102857","Entonces nunca van a salir de esa mejora si no invierten en educación.",2339.04,2343.5,"afirma explícitamente que solo saldrá de la situación invirtiendo en educación.",{"idx":3213,"utterance_id":3214,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3215,"start_s":3216,"end_s":3217,"word_count":566,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3095,"target_proposition":3096,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":3218,"indexable":244},478,"102858","Profesionalización masiva en la enseñanza media, dando un concepto de no formar analfabetos funcionales, sino de formar personas que tengan la capacidad de salir de la enseñanza fundamental, llegar a la enseñanza media, ser un buen profesional o entrar en una universidad, que no sea esa estafa que hay hoy en Brasil, que muchas universidades son verdaderas betes, registradas también por el MEC (Ministerio de Educación).",2343.94,2373.16,"propone profesionalización masiva en la educación secundaria como solución educativa.",{"idx":3220,"utterance_id":3221,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3222,"start_s":3223,"end_s":3224,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},479,"102859","Porque cobran allí un valor y no le dan a los jóvenes esa formación que deben.",2373.76,2378.6,{"idx":3226,"utterance_id":3227,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3228,"start_s":3229,"end_s":3230,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},480,"102860","Entonces el remedio para eso es uno solo.",2378.94,2380.94,{"idx":3232,"utterance_id":3233,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3234,"start_s":3235,"end_s":3236,"word_count":198,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3095,"target_proposition":3096,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":563,"rationale":3237,"indexable":244},481,"102861","Es educar; así esas personas saldrán.",2381.56,2384.46,"dice que educar es el remedio para sacar a las personas de la condición actual — propuesta clara.",{"idx":3239,"utterance_id":3240,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3241,"start_s":3242,"end_s":3243,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},482,"102862","¿Qué construyó Lula?",2384.78,2385.88,{"idx":3245,"utterance_id":3246,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3247,"start_s":3248,"end_s":3249,"word_count":212,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":3250,"target_proposition":3251,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":563,"rationale":3252,"indexable":177},483,"102863","Tres generaciones de dependientes del gobierno.",2386.34,2388.84,"bb2ca6f4-d9cf-4a84-9089-8b52c1a7014a","implementar búsqueda activa para la inclusión productiva de beneficiarios de programas sociales","critica 'três gerações de dependentes' e indica oposición a la permanencia de ese ciclo.",{"idx":3254,"utterance_id":3255,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3256,"start_s":3257,"end_s":3258,"word_count":219,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":3250,"target_proposition":3251,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":3259,"indexable":177},484,"102864","Ese ciclo, yo lo rompí en Goiás.",2389.24,2391.54,"afirma haber roto ese ciclo en Goiás — reivindica acción propia contra la dependencia.",{"idx":3261,"utterance_id":3262,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3263,"start_s":3264,"end_s":3265,"word_count":297,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":3250,"target_proposition":3251,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":2314,"rationale":3266,"indexable":244},485,"102865","Las personas salen de la condición de dependientes de una bolsa del gobierno y están ganando su propio dinero.",2391.96,2399.02,"dice que personas salieron de la dependencia y están obteniendo ingresos — reivindicación de resultado.",{"idx":3268,"utterance_id":3269,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3270,"start_s":3271,"end_s":3272,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},486,"102866","Esa es la verdad.",2399.84,2400.66,{"idx":3274,"utterance_id":3275,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3276,"start_s":3277,"end_s":3278,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},487,"102867","Pero eso, si no cuidas al joven, ese ciclo de personas irá aumentando cada vez más.",2401.1,2407.56,{"idx":3280,"utterance_id":3281,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3282,"start_s":3283,"end_s":3284,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":3250,"target_proposition":3251,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":3285,"indexable":244},488,"102868","Eso es lo que Lula ha estado haciendo en su gobierno.",2407.88,2412.2,"critica al gobierno anterior por mantener dependencia, defendiendo lo contrario (inclusión).",{"idx":3287,"utterance_id":3288,"speaker_name":174,"text":3289,"start_s":3290,"end_s":3291,"word_count":672,"indexable":177},489,"102869","Gobernador, hablando de un programa de gobierno para asuntos muy populares, usted citó ahí los programas de transferencia de renta; solo quiero decir que recientemente recibimos aquí en Canal Livre al precandidato, el exgobernador de Minas, Romeu Zema, que fue muy directo en sus opiniones, incluso en asuntos de gran interés popular; llegó a decir que si llega al gobierno no va a dar aumento real del salario mínimo, que eso es una cuestión de mercado.",2412.7,2435.3,{"idx":3293,"utterance_id":3294,"speaker_name":174,"text":3295,"start_s":3296,"end_s":3297,"word_count":297,"indexable":177},490,"102870","Entonces quería pedirle su opinión, muy objetiva, su posición, muy objetiva, sobre la vinculación de la pensión.",2435.62,2441.76,{"idx":3299,"utterance_id":3300,"speaker_name":174,"text":3301,"start_s":3302,"end_s":3303,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},491,"102871","El salario mínimo, Bolsa Família y la escala de trabajo 6x1.",2442.14,2445.54,{"idx":3305,"utterance_id":3306,"speaker_name":174,"text":3307,"start_s":3308,"end_s":3309,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},492,"102872","¿Cuál es su proyecto para estos tres temas, su posición?",2446.14,2448.68,{"idx":3311,"utterance_id":3312,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3313,"start_s":3314,"end_s":3315,"word_count":231,"topic_slug":3316,"topic_label":3317,"target_id":3318,"target_proposition":3319,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":3320,"indexable":244},493,"102873","Mi postura: no voy a quitar esa prerrogativa del pensionista.",2449.88,2453.24,"politica-previdenciaria","Política previsional","d86509ad-c687-4914-a219-073308cd0a53","preservar la vinculación del salario mínimo a las jubilaciones y al BPC","declara explícitamente que no retirará esa prerrogativa del jubilado.",{"idx":3322,"utterance_id":3323,"speaker_name":174,"text":3324,"start_s":3325,"end_s":3326,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},494,"102874","Permanece vinculado al mínimo.",2453.9,2455.06,{"idx":3328,"utterance_id":3329,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3330,"start_s":3331,"end_s":3332,"word_count":224,"topic_slug":3333,"topic_label":3334,"target_id":3335,"target_proposition":3336,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":3337,"indexable":244},495,"102875","No voy, de ninguna manera, a enfrentar lo que sea 5x2; eso ya fue aprobado hoy.",2455.68,2463.12,"relacoes-internacionais-trabalho","Relaciones Internacionales \u002F Trabajo","19e94ef2-b0df-4af9-9deb-d1bd365b712e","adoptar jornada laboral 5x2","afirma que no va a 'enfrentar' el 5x2, reconociendo su aprobación.",{"idx":3339,"utterance_id":3340,"speaker_name":174,"text":3341,"start_s":3342,"end_s":3343,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},496,"102876","¿Usted está a favor?",2463.6,2464.38,{"idx":3345,"utterance_id":3346,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3347,"start_s":3348,"end_s":3349,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},497,"102877","¿Y tiene dudas de que ese tema fue discutido?",2466.54,2468.78,{"idx":3351,"utterance_id":3352,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3353,"start_s":3354,"end_s":3355,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},498,"102878","Ahí está.",2469.6,2469.84,{"idx":3357,"utterance_id":3358,"speaker_name":174,"text":3359,"start_s":3360,"end_s":3361,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},499,"102879","Ahora...",2470.44,2470.66,{"idx":3363,"utterance_id":3364,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3365,"start_s":3366,"end_s":3367,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},500,"102880","¿Qué es lo que se está debatiendo hoy en el Senado?",2471.08,2473.62,{"idx":3369,"utterance_id":3370,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3371,"start_s":3372,"end_s":3373,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},501,"102881","También aquello que va a prevalecer.",2474.4,2476.6,{"idx":3375,"utterance_id":3376,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3377,"start_s":3378,"end_s":3379,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},502,"102882","La mediocridad no va a prevalecer.",2477.2,2478.82,{"idx":3381,"utterance_id":3382,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3383,"start_s":3384,"end_s":3385,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},503,"102883","Por hora trabajada.",2479.32,2480.42,{"idx":3387,"utterance_id":3388,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3389,"start_s":3390,"end_s":3391,"word_count":224,"topic_slug":3333,"topic_label":3334,"target_id":3392,"target_proposition":3393,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":3394,"indexable":177},504,"102884","El senador Rogério Marinho acaba de presentar un proyecto de ley sobre hora trabajada.",2481.5,2486.08,"1d2fbfa6-5339-4ff1-9656-681b9e9ad76d","crear legislación que permita la contratación por hora flexible","informa que un senador presentó un proyecto sobre hora trabalhada (mención factual).",{"idx":3396,"utterance_id":3397,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3398,"start_s":3399,"end_s":3400,"word_count":217,"topic_slug":3333,"topic_label":3334,"target_id":3392,"target_proposition":3393,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":3401,"indexable":244},505,"102885","Ahí sí, ahí es cuando se saca al país de lo analógico y se lo lleva a la modernidad.",2486.2,2491.92,"presenta el proyecto como modernización y positivo para sacar al país de lo 'analógico'.",{"idx":3403,"utterance_id":3404,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3405,"start_s":3406,"end_s":3407,"word_count":231,"topic_slug":3333,"topic_label":3334,"target_id":3392,"target_proposition":3393,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":563,"rationale":3408,"indexable":244},506,"102886","Entonces si la persona quiere CLT, se queda en la CLT.",2492.28,2495.04,"defiende que quien quiera CLT se quede; quien quiera hora trabalhada puede optar — apoya la elección.",{"idx":3410,"utterance_id":3411,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3412,"start_s":3413,"end_s":3414,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},507,"102887","Si la persona quiere pasar a la hora trabajada, pasa a la hora trabajada.",2495.6,2498.32,{"idx":3416,"utterance_id":3417,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3418,"start_s":3419,"end_s":3420,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},508,"102888","No necesita elegir una u otra.",2498.92,2500.98,{"idx":3422,"utterance_id":3423,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3424,"start_s":3425,"end_s":3426,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},509,"102889","Deja ambos.",2501.04,2501.88,{"idx":3428,"utterance_id":3429,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3430,"start_s":3431,"end_s":3432,"word_count":224,"topic_slug":3333,"topic_label":3334,"target_id":3392,"target_proposition":3393,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":3433,"indexable":177},510,"102890","Lo que va a crecer, lo que el joven quiere hoy, no es ser CLT.",2502.04,2504.88,"afirma una observación sobre la preferencia juvenil por la hora trabalhada (descripción de tendencia).",{"idx":3435,"utterance_id":3436,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3437,"start_s":3438,"end_s":3439,"word_count":198,"topic_slug":3333,"topic_label":3334,"target_id":3392,"target_proposition":3393,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":3440,"indexable":244},511,"102891","Lo que el joven quiere hoy es la hora trabajada.",2505.34,2506.88,"repite que el joven quiere 'hora trabalhada', reforzando el apoyo a la medida.",{"idx":3442,"utterance_id":3443,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3444,"start_s":3445,"end_s":3446,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},512,"102892","Esa es la gran verdad.",2508.28,2509.24,{"idx":3448,"utterance_id":3449,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3450,"start_s":3451,"end_s":3452,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},513,"102893","Ahora, ¿por qué voy a poder hacer eso?",2509.46,2511.5,{"idx":3454,"utterance_id":3455,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3456,"start_s":3457,"end_s":3458,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},514,"102894","Sólo porque así voy a desarrollar las potencialidades de Brasil.",2511.92,2516.26,{"idx":3460,"utterance_id":3461,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3462,"start_s":3463,"end_s":3464,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},515,"102895","Voy a generar riqueza.",2516.3,2517.48,{"idx":3466,"utterance_id":3467,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3468,"start_s":3469,"end_s":3470,"word_count":278,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":26,"target_id":3471,"target_proposition":3472,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1977,"rationale":3473,"indexable":244},516,"102896","En lugar de tener que meter la mano en el bolsillo del ciudadano que está allí, detrás de esa cámara, en un 34%.",2518.1,2523.34,"3bbafff7-d333-44a1-98fc-d7cd8550fdf8","reducir la tasa de interés y la carga tributaria","contrapone generar riqueza a 'enfiar a mão no bolso' con 34% de impuestos — crítica fiscal explícita.",{"idx":3475,"utterance_id":3476,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3477,"start_s":3478,"end_s":3479,"word_count":356,"indexable":177},517,"102897","de impuesto en su bolsillo, que está allí, ese camarógrafo; sabré hacer lo que todos los países de América Latina están haciendo, sin tener las riquezas brasileñas.",2526.1,2536.56,{"idx":3481,"utterance_id":3482,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3483,"start_s":3484,"end_s":3485,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},518,"102898","Tengo el potencial de hacer crecer a Brasil como nadie.",2537.2,2540.3,{"idx":3487,"utterance_id":3488,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3489,"start_s":3490,"end_s":3491,"word_count":455,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":26,"target_id":3492,"target_proposition":3493,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":3494,"indexable":244},519,"102899","Tengo el mejor territorio, tres cosechas por año, tengo los minerales críticos del mundo, de los que todos dependen de Brasil, y hoy tengo una potencialidad de crecimiento en... apoyo a la inteligencia artificial, en apoyo cada vez mayor a la profesionalización de mi pueblo.",2540.92,2558.3,"8a413bf8-438f-4e97-a089-2cd31febae35","profundizar el crecimiento con distribución de la renta y reestructuración productiva para absorber mano de obra calificada","defiende generar riqueza, IA y profesionalización para distribuir ingreso y elevar el estándar.",{"idx":3496,"utterance_id":3497,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3498,"start_s":3499,"end_s":3500,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},520,"102900","Entonces, hija mía, solo elevas el nivel del país si distribuyes renta, si distribuyes riqueza.",2558.66,2568.14,{"idx":3502,"utterance_id":3503,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3504,"start_s":3505,"end_s":3506,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},521,"102901","¿Y cómo distribuyes riqueza?",2568.5,2569.72,{"idx":3508,"utterance_id":3509,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3510,"start_s":3511,"end_s":3512,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},522,"102902","Por el conocimiento.",2569.9,2570.98,{"idx":3514,"utterance_id":3515,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3516,"start_s":3517,"end_s":3518,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},523,"102903","Conocimiento.",2571.34,2572.2,{"idx":3520,"utterance_id":3521,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3522,"start_s":3523,"end_s":3524,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},524,"102904","Quien no tiene preparación, no tiene inteligencia, queda vendiendo para Brasil y comprando tecnología de punta.",2572.26,2578.06,{"idx":3526,"utterance_id":3527,"speaker_name":174,"text":3528,"start_s":3529,"end_s":3530,"word_count":21,"indexable":177},525,"102905","Complementando, gobernador, en el tema de la reforma de la Previdencia, entiendo perfectamente, es decir, no desvincular la Previdencia, el beneficio previsional del salario mínimo.",2578.2,2587.4,{"idx":3532,"utterance_id":3533,"speaker_name":174,"text":3534,"start_s":3535,"end_s":3536,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},526,"102906","Sí.",2587.52,2587.62,{"idx":3538,"utterance_id":3539,"speaker_name":174,"text":3540,"start_s":3541,"end_s":3542,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},527,"102907","Perfecto.",2587.74,2588.16,{"idx":3544,"utterance_id":3545,"speaker_name":174,"text":3546,"start_s":3547,"end_s":3548,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},528,"102908","Pero la Previdencia en Brasil, en su conjunto, tiene más de 400 mil millones de déficit.",2588.66,2593.96,{"idx":3550,"utterance_id":3551,"speaker_name":174,"text":3552,"start_s":3553,"end_s":3554,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},529,"102909","Sí, lo sé.",2594.3,2594.66,{"idx":3556,"utterance_id":3557,"speaker_name":174,"text":3558,"start_s":3559,"end_s":3560,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},530,"102910","Entonces alguna reforma tendrá que ser hecha, ¿no?",2594.7,2596.44,{"idx":3562,"utterance_id":3563,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3564,"start_s":3565,"end_s":3566,"word_count":297,"topic_slug":3316,"topic_label":3317,"target_id":3567,"target_proposition":3568,"stance":3569,"stance_confidence":1192,"rationale":3570,"indexable":177},531,"102911","Sí, pero una cosa es hacer una reforma, otra cosa es decir que no vas a vincular.",2596.5,2602.2,"c75acc74-51c2-435a-a71b-b0d35b71b4f5","implementar la reforma previsional","ambiguo","dice que reformar es distinto de desvincular, reconociendo la reforma pero sin apoyar la desvinculación.",{"idx":3572,"utterance_id":3573,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3574,"start_s":3575,"end_s":3576,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},532,"102912","Son cosas distintas, ¿está bien?",2602.58,2604.62,{"idx":3578,"utterance_id":3579,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3580,"start_s":3581,"end_s":3582,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},533,"102913","La reforma fue hecha en el gobierno de Bolsonaro, ¿está bien?",2604.88,2608.64,{"idx":3584,"utterance_id":3585,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3586,"start_s":3587,"end_s":3588,"word_count":324,"indexable":177},534,"102914","Ahora, tienes una previdencia anterior y hoy tienes una nueva previdencia para los que están entrando dentro de otro sistema, ¿está bien?",2609.24,2619.74,{"idx":3590,"utterance_id":3591,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3592,"start_s":3593,"end_s":3594,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},535,"102915","Que aquí es traspasado por un ahorro directo suyo.",2619.82,2622.32,{"idx":3596,"utterance_id":3597,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3598,"start_s":3599,"end_s":3600,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},536,"102916","Entonces, son dos momentos de la previdencia en Brasil.",2622.36,2626.16,{"idx":3602,"utterance_id":3603,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3604,"start_s":3605,"end_s":3606,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},537,"102917","Entonces, estos asuntos, los van a tratar con tranquilidad.",2626.88,2630.38,{"idx":3608,"utterance_id":3609,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3610,"start_s":3611,"end_s":3612,"word_count":59,"indexable":177},538,"102918","Lo que va a hacer, no necesita decir, \"mire, voy a amenazar con que voy a acabar con esto\".",2630.46,2636.24,{"idx":3614,"utterance_id":3615,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3616,"start_s":3617,"end_s":3618,"word_count":330,"indexable":177},539,"102919","No, va a mostrarle al ciudadano que en lugar de estar recibiendo aquello tendrá una actividad digna en su vida.",2636.28,2645.84,{"idx":3620,"utterance_id":3621,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3622,"start_s":3623,"end_s":3624,"word_count":389,"indexable":177},540,"102920","En un país como Brasil, que tiene todas las alternativas para proveer a esas personas, y usted va a seguir viviendo en un país en el que quiere dejar a las personas dependientes de la máquina del Estado.",2646.26,2659.72,{"idx":3626,"utterance_id":3627,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3628,"start_s":3629,"end_s":3630,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},541,"102921","Quiero decir, está acabando, destruyendo la potencialidad brasileña de un país que perdió el bono demográfico.",2659.86,2667.78,{"idx":3632,"utterance_id":3633,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3634,"start_s":3635,"end_s":3636,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},542,"102922","Hoy somos un país envejecido.",2667.92,2669.76,{"idx":3638,"utterance_id":3639,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3640,"start_s":3641,"end_s":3642,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},543,"102923","Y con esa cultura allí, cada vez más sobrecargando los gastos en salud, cada vez imponiendo más dificultades también en el mantenimiento.",2670.54,2679.18,{"idx":3644,"utterance_id":3645,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3646,"start_s":3647,"end_s":3648,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},544,"102924","de la vida de los ancianos en Brasil.",2679.84,2681.6,{"idx":3650,"utterance_id":3651,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3652,"start_s":3653,"end_s":3654,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},545,"102925","Entonces tiene que despertar a Brasil para entrar en el área de minerales críticos y de inteligencia artificial.",2681.82,2688.8,{"idx":3656,"utterance_id":3657,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3658,"start_s":3659,"end_s":3660,"word_count":356,"topic_slug":3661,"topic_label":3662,"target_id":3663,"target_proposition":3664,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":3665,"indexable":244},546,"102926","En lugar de comprar en Goiás, en lugar de comprar autobuses con baterías asiáticas, desarrollé el biometano y mi flota hoy está circulando con biometano.",2689.34,2699.74,"matriz-energetica","Matriz energética","aa503857-511c-4e96-bf14-0085a62d6444","promover la transición a fuentes de energía de bajo carbono","relata haber desarrollado biometano y una flota en circulación — defensa de una política energética local.",{"idx":3667,"utterance_id":3668,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3669,"start_s":3670,"end_s":3671,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},547,"102927","Hoy voy a recibir en Caxias do Sul un homenaje, ¿está bien?",2699.78,2703.54,{"idx":3673,"utterance_id":3674,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3675,"start_s":3676,"end_s":3677,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},548,"102928","Voy a recibir un homenaje en Caxias do Sul.",2703.58,2705.48,{"idx":3679,"utterance_id":3680,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3681,"start_s":3682,"end_s":3683,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},549,"102929","por ser la primera capital de Brasil con producción de energía dentro de mi propio estado.",2705.86,2711.08,{"idx":3685,"utterance_id":3686,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3687,"start_s":3688,"end_s":3689,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},550,"102930","¿Cuáles son las fuentes energéticas brasileñas?",2711.26,2713.18,{"idx":3691,"utterance_id":3692,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3693,"start_s":3694,"end_s":3695,"word_count":389,"topic_slug":3696,"topic_label":3697,"target_id":3698,"target_proposition":3699,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":3700,"rationale":3701,"indexable":244},551,"102931","¿Por qué un problema en el Estrecho de Ormuz tiene que comprometer mi cosecha en Brasil, si aquí no tengo cloruro y potasio, no tengo fósforo, no tengo urea, no tengo amoníaco?",2713.44,2722.34,"politica-comercial","Política comercial","1d93c8d6-0de7-4e73-8a33-3c7adf821c0e","retomar la producción nacional de urea y fertilizantes",0.84,"cuestiona la dependencia externa de fertilizantes y defiende la producción nacional de esos insumos.",{"idx":3703,"utterance_id":3704,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3705,"start_s":3706,"end_s":3707,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},552,"102932","Todo eso podría haberse desarrollado en Brasil.",2722.82,2725.08,{"idx":3709,"utterance_id":3710,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3711,"start_s":3712,"end_s":3713,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},553,"102933","¿Dónde están los proyectos estructurantes de Brasil?",2726.24,2728.36,{"idx":3715,"utterance_id":3716,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3717,"start_s":3718,"end_s":3719,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},554,"102934","No se gobierna solo para actuar, no.",2728.94,2730.6,{"idx":3721,"utterance_id":3722,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3723,"start_s":3724,"end_s":3725,"word_count":383,"topic_slug":3726,"topic_label":3727,"target_id":3728,"target_proposition":3729,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":2314,"rationale":3730,"indexable":244},555,"102935","Voy a gobernar por 80 años, voy a gobernar para dejar el doble de proyectos estructurados para que podamos mostrar que Brasil tiene oportunidad, siempre que haya otra cabeza gobernando el país.",2731.26,2742.46,"infraestrutura-e-saneamento","Infraestructura y saneamiento","9e0094f3-c041-4e20-9f23-8460fa8b3f66","implementar una política nacional amplia de infraestructura","promete dejar el doble de proyectos estructurantes para mostrar oportunidad de crecimiento.",{"idx":3732,"utterance_id":3733,"speaker_name":174,"text":3734,"start_s":3735,"end_s":3736,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},556,"102936","Antes de que volvamos a esas cuestiones que pueden ser su gobierno, hay un asunto de esta semana.",2742.64,2747.12,{"idx":3738,"utterance_id":3739,"speaker_name":174,"text":3740,"start_s":3741,"end_s":3742,"word_count":21,"indexable":177},557,"102937","Y usted ya habló varias veces aquí de crimen organizado y hizo críticas al PT, que es la cuestión del BK Bank.",2748.38,2754.06,{"idx":3744,"utterance_id":3745,"speaker_name":174,"text":3746,"start_s":3747,"end_s":3748,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},558,"102938","Que el PT, inclusive, está pidiendo a la Policía Federal que investigue su gobierno en Goiás.",2755.4,2759.12,{"idx":3750,"utterance_id":3751,"speaker_name":174,"text":3752,"start_s":3753,"end_s":3754,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},559,"102939","Usted dijo que no tiene mácula ni nada por el estilo.",2759.16,2760.38,{"idx":3756,"utterance_id":3757,"speaker_name":174,"text":3758,"start_s":3759,"end_s":3760,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},560,"102940","¿Eso no va a ser una mácula?",2760.8,2761.92,{"idx":3762,"utterance_id":3763,"speaker_name":174,"text":3764,"start_s":3765,"end_s":3766,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},561,"102941","¿Cómo se va a tratar eso en la campaña?",2761.96,2763.56,{"idx":3768,"utterance_id":3769,"speaker_name":174,"text":3770,"start_s":3771,"end_s":3772,"word_count":43,"indexable":177},562,"102942","Es solo para explicar a nuestro público, gobernador, que ese BK Bank es una fintech, que los programas sociales del Estado de Goiás fueron pagados por ella.",2764.76,2772.2,{"idx":3774,"utterance_id":3775,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3776,"start_s":3777,"end_s":3778,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},563,"102943","Es importante aquí, mire aquí.",2772.24,2773.54,{"idx":3780,"utterance_id":3781,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3782,"start_s":3783,"end_s":3784,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},564,"102944","¿Puede enfocar aquí, por favor?",2774.22,2775.98,{"idx":3786,"utterance_id":3787,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3788,"start_s":3789,"end_s":3790,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},565,"102945","Vamos a enfocar bien aquí.",2776.48,2777.72,{"idx":3792,"utterance_id":3793,"speaker_name":174,"text":3794,"start_s":3795,"end_s":3796,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},566,"102946","Es un certificado del Banco Central.",2778.48,2779.88,{"idx":3798,"utterance_id":3799,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3800,"start_s":3801,"end_s":3802,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},567,"102947","Certificado del Banco Central de Brasil.",2780.04,2782.8,{"idx":3804,"utterance_id":3805,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3806,"start_s":3807,"end_s":3808,"word_count":191,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":3809,"target_proposition":3810,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":3811,"indexable":177},568,"102948","Y fíjese bien, ¿por qué la retiramos de Goiás en 2024?",2783.96,2787.14,"ceb70297-2931-4df7-a21b-15759026a21e","fortalecer la fiscalización pública sobre servicios y contratos","explica el motivo de la retirada de la fintech de Goiás citando capacidad de entrega y certificados (defensa fáctica).",{"idx":3813,"utterance_id":3814,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3815,"start_s":3816,"end_s":3817,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},569,"102949","Por favor, léala.",2788.68,2789.96,{"idx":3819,"utterance_id":3820,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3821,"start_s":3822,"end_s":3823,"word_count":9,"indexable":177},570,"102950","En 2024 ella no tenía capacidad para hacer las entregas que nosotros hicimos, pero estaba allí en el Estado de Goiás con todos los certificados.",2790.9,2800.2,{"idx":3825,"utterance_id":3826,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3827,"start_s":3828,"end_s":3829,"word_count":515,"indexable":177},571,"102951","Esa misma empresa, que aquel diputado de Río de Janeiro presentó este requerimiento, Lindbergh Faria, dije que no tomé muy en serio su denuncia, hasta porque sabemos que él... Cuando él presenta un documento, está obligado a presentar allí el certificado que hizo, el examen antidoping.",2800.56,2830.26,{"idx":3831,"utterance_id":3832,"speaker_name":174,"text":3833,"start_s":3834,"end_s":3835,"word_count":278,"indexable":177},572,"102952","Entonces, esta situación, a partir de ese certificado del Banco Central, lo deja tranquilo para el debate que vendrá por delante.",2831.56,2838.46,{"idx":3837,"utterance_id":3838,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3839,"start_s":3840,"end_s":3841,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},573,"102953","Déjeme continuar la conversación.",2838.5,2839.88,{"idx":3843,"utterance_id":3844,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3845,"start_s":3846,"end_s":3847,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},574,"102954","No es eso.",2839.92,2840.36,{"idx":3849,"utterance_id":3850,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3851,"start_s":3852,"end_s":3853,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},575,"102955","Déjeme tranquilo.",2840.56,2841.44,{"idx":3855,"utterance_id":3856,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3857,"start_s":3858,"end_s":3859,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},576,"102956","Calma ahí.",2841.52,2841.98,{"idx":3861,"utterance_id":3862,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3863,"start_s":3864,"end_s":3865,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},577,"102957","Usted, como gobernador del Estado, usted recibe todas las certificaciones de la empresa.",2842.52,2846.28,{"idx":3867,"utterance_id":3868,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3869,"start_s":3870,"end_s":3871,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},578,"102958","Ella se las entrega a usted.",2846.56,2847.28,{"idx":3873,"utterance_id":3874,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3875,"start_s":3876,"end_s":3877,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},579,"102959","¿Quién está en condiciones?",2847.92,2849.2,{"idx":3879,"utterance_id":3880,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3881,"start_s":3882,"end_s":3883,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},580,"102960","¿Por qué esa misma certificación aquí, él presta servicio hasta hoy, y lo prestó hasta 2024?",2849.88,2856.52,{"idx":3885,"utterance_id":3886,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3887,"start_s":3888,"end_s":3889,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},581,"102961","¿Y en el Serpro y en los Correios que él prestó hasta ahora?",2857.6,2860.98,{"idx":3891,"utterance_id":3892,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":1722,"start_s":3893,"end_s":3894,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},582,"102962",2861.56,2861.74,{"idx":3896,"utterance_id":3897,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3898,"start_s":3899,"end_s":3900,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},583,"102963","Mire, ¿qué es el Serpro?",2862.4,2863.76,{"idx":3902,"utterance_id":3903,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3904,"start_s":3905,"end_s":3906,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},584,"102964","¿Es un organismo de quién?",2864.62,2865.42,{"idx":3908,"utterance_id":3909,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3910,"start_s":3911,"end_s":3912,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},585,"102965","¿De Goiás?",2865.46,2866.34,{"idx":3914,"utterance_id":3915,"speaker_name":174,"text":3916,"start_s":3917,"end_s":3918,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},586,"102966","Gobierno Federal.",2867.02,2867.64,{"idx":3920,"utterance_id":3921,"speaker_name":174,"text":3922,"start_s":3923,"end_s":3924,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},587,"102967","¿Y los Correios?",2867.7,2868.4,{"idx":3926,"utterance_id":3927,"speaker_name":174,"text":3916,"start_s":3928,"end_s":3929,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},588,"102968",2868.66,2869.34,{"idx":3931,"utterance_id":3932,"speaker_name":174,"text":3916,"start_s":3933,"end_s":3934,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},589,"102969",2869.88,2870.66,{"idx":3936,"utterance_id":3937,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3938,"start_s":3939,"end_s":3940,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},590,"102970","Entonces, está bien.",2870.76,2871.28,{"idx":3942,"utterance_id":3943,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3944,"start_s":3945,"end_s":3946,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},591,"102971","Entonces, mire.",2871.4,2871.86,{"idx":3948,"utterance_id":3949,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3950,"start_s":3951,"end_s":3952,"word_count":169,"indexable":177},592,"102972","¿Cuál es la herramienta que usted tiene, usted como gobernador del Estado, cuál es la herramienta que tiene para saber si el socio de una empresa que usted contrata está o no vinculado al narcotráfico?",2872.1,2885.44,{"idx":3954,"utterance_id":3955,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3956,"start_s":3957,"end_s":3958,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},593,"102973","¿Cuál?",2885.48,2885.7,{"idx":3960,"utterance_id":3961,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3962,"start_s":3963,"end_s":3964,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},594,"102974","Ninguna.",2886.26,2886.6,{"idx":3966,"utterance_id":3967,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3968,"start_s":3969,"end_s":3970,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},595,"102975","Ahora, el gobierno federal tiene el COAF.",2887.74,2890.22,{"idx":3972,"utterance_id":3973,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3974,"start_s":3975,"end_s":3976,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},596,"102976","¿Por qué no lo denunció?",2891.16,2893.22,{"idx":3978,"utterance_id":3979,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3980,"start_s":3981,"end_s":3982,"word_count":169,"indexable":177},597,"102977","Porque cuando yo le digo que el PT es conivente con el narcotráfico, es porque el COAF no usa ninguna herramienta para denunciar cuáles son las personas que están realmente usando la fintech para lavar dinero.",2893.34,2913.76,{"idx":3984,"utterance_id":3985,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3986,"start_s":3987,"end_s":3988,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},598,"102978","El gobierno federal podría haber hecho eso.",2914.4,2916.62,{"idx":3990,"utterance_id":3991,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3992,"start_s":3993,"end_s":3994,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},599,"102979","¿Por qué no lo hizo?",2917.12,2918,{"idx":3996,"utterance_id":3997,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":3998,"start_s":3999,"end_s":4000,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},600,"102980","¿Por qué no cancelaron esa autorización?",2918.72,2921,{"idx":4002,"utterance_id":4003,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4004,"start_s":4005,"end_s":4006,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},601,"102981","¿Señor, entonces usted cambia el juego?",2921.08,2922.3,{"idx":4008,"utterance_id":4009,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4010,"start_s":4011,"end_s":4012,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},602,"102982","No en el sentido de darle la vuelta al juego, no.",2922.62,2923.84,{"idx":4014,"utterance_id":4015,"speaker_name":174,"text":4016,"start_s":4017,"end_s":4018,"word_count":43,"indexable":177},603,"102983","Es porque el gobierno... 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La enmienda constitucional que Caiado presentó, lógicamente pidió que los senadores la presentaran, que yo ya no tengo la condición, porque ella es gobernadora del Estado.",2976.94,2985.22,"f94eaca1-3b6b-43cf-a214-c15b6d5b0723","permitir el acceso de los estados al COAF y a la información de inteligencia financiera","dice haber presentado una PEC para que gobernadores y secretarios tengan acceso al COAF.",{"idx":4127,"utterance_id":4128,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4129,"start_s":4130,"end_s":4131,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},622,"103002","¿Qué está allí en la PEC que pedí?",2985.26,2986.64,{"idx":4133,"utterance_id":4134,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4135,"start_s":4136,"end_s":4137,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},623,"103003","Que pudiéramos tener acceso al COAF.",2987.12,2989.12,{"idx":4139,"utterance_id":4140,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4141,"start_s":4142,"end_s":4143,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},624,"103004","No tenemos acceso al COAF, ¿cierto?",2989.7,2992.02,{"idx":4145,"utterance_id":4146,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4147,"start_s":4148,"end_s":4149,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},625,"103005","Es algo que voy a presentar en mi cambio.",2992.34,2994.5,{"idx":4151,"utterance_id":4152,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4153,"start_s":4154,"end_s":4155,"word_count":59,"indexable":177},626,"103006","Tendrán acceso al COAF cualquier secretario de seguridad pública y gobernador de Estado que así lo solicite; inmediatamente daré la respuesta.",2995.36,3003.1,{"idx":4157,"utterance_id":4158,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4159,"start_s":4160,"end_s":4161,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},627,"103007","Porque en Goiás... Porque no tengo las herramientas para identificar si ellos están involucrados en el PCC.",3004.92,3011.12,{"idx":4163,"utterance_id":4164,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4165,"start_s":4166,"end_s":4167,"word_count":330,"indexable":177},628,"103008","Y por qué el gobierno federal, que tiene las herramientas del COAF, estaba en el Serpro y estaba en los Correios hasta el día de la operación?",3011.68,3019.08,{"idx":4169,"utterance_id":4170,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4171,"start_s":4172,"end_s":4173,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},629,"103009","¿Verdad, Felipe?",3019.52,3019.98,{"idx":852,"utterance_id":4175,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4176,"start_s":4177,"end_s":4178,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},"103010","¿Y entonces?",3021.7,3021.88,{"idx":4180,"utterance_id":4181,"speaker_name":174,"text":4182,"start_s":4183,"end_s":4184,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},631,"103011","Y sigue ahí.",3022.6,3023.58,{"idx":4186,"utterance_id":4187,"speaker_name":174,"text":4182,"start_s":4188,"end_s":4189,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},632,"103012",3023.86,3024.32,{"idx":4191,"utterance_id":4192,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4182,"start_s":4193,"end_s":4194,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},633,"103013",3024.92,3025.42,{"idx":4196,"utterance_id":4197,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4198,"start_s":4199,"end_s":4200,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},634,"103014","No, no.",3025.6,3025.88,{"idx":4202,"utterance_id":4203,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4204,"start_s":4205,"end_s":4206,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":4207,"target_proposition":4208,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":2314,"rationale":4209,"indexable":244},635,"103015","Entonces, cuando la operación terminó, ellos cancelaron.",3026.04,3030.26,"a13fb313-a2b3-44a7-870b-d51f677b738f","cancelar contratos con proveedores ineficientes","justifica haber cancelado el contrato porque la empresa 'não estava sendo eficiente' — reclama medida administrativa.",{"idx":4211,"utterance_id":4212,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4213,"start_s":4214,"end_s":4215,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},636,"103016","El mío había sido cancelado un año antes.",3030.32,3032.08,{"idx":4217,"utterance_id":4218,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4219,"start_s":4220,"end_s":4221,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},637,"103017","Pero usted preguntará, Macario, ¿por qué canceló?",3032.22,3034.84,{"idx":63,"utterance_id":4223,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4224,"start_s":4225,"end_s":4226,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},"103018","Cancelé porque no estaban siendo eficientes.",3035.32,3037.62,{"idx":4228,"utterance_id":4229,"speaker_name":174,"text":4230,"start_s":4231,"end_s":4232,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},639,"103019","El secretario se acercó a mí... Canceló y cambió las reglas, ¿no, gobernador?",3037.7,3039.62,{"idx":4234,"utterance_id":4235,"speaker_name":174,"text":1364,"start_s":4236,"end_s":4237,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},640,"103020",3040.16,3040.4,{"idx":4239,"utterance_id":4240,"speaker_name":174,"text":4241,"start_s":4242,"end_s":4243,"word_count":267,"indexable":177},641,"103021","Canceló y cambió las reglas, porque la fintech, que es esa que se acusa de participar en el lavado de dinero para el crimen organizado, tenía un porcentaje mayor que la que está ahora.",3040.46,3048.88,{"idx":4245,"utterance_id":4246,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4247,"start_s":4248,"end_s":4249,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},642,"103022","¿Cuánto ganó ella?",3048.96,3050.32,{"idx":4251,"utterance_id":4252,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4253,"start_s":4254,"end_s":4255,"word_count":297,"indexable":177},643,"103023","Eso es cuestión de que la persona se acredite para hacer los... Las otras que se acreditaron por un precio menor.",3050.52,3056.62,{"idx":4257,"utterance_id":4258,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4259,"start_s":4260,"end_s":4261,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},644,"103024","y mostraron más eficiencia.",3057,3058.38,{"idx":4263,"utterance_id":4264,"speaker_name":174,"text":4265,"start_s":4266,"end_s":4267,"word_count":430,"indexable":177},645,"103025","Solo para que sepamos el monto de esto: ¿cuánto recibió Becabank, que es esa fintech sospechosa de lavar dinero del crimen organizado y que recibía un porcentaje del traspaso de los programas sociales del estado de Goiás para la población?",3058.62,3071.8,{"idx":4269,"utterance_id":4270,"speaker_name":174,"text":4271,"start_s":4272,"end_s":4273,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},646,"103026","No, no recibía del estado de Goiás.",3071.84,3073.36,{"idx":4275,"utterance_id":4276,"speaker_name":174,"text":4277,"start_s":4278,"end_s":4279,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},647,"103027","Cuando la persona que recibía el beneficio social hacía las compras, los comerciantes pagaban una tasa.",3073.4,3078.38,{"idx":4281,"utterance_id":4282,"speaker_name":174,"text":4283,"start_s":4284,"end_s":4285,"word_count":9,"indexable":177},648,"103028","Y buena parte de esa tasa, una parte iba al gobierno, la otra parte iba a esa fintech que es sospechosa de lavado de dinero.",3078.68,3084.48,{"idx":4287,"utterance_id":4288,"speaker_name":174,"text":4289,"start_s":4290,"end_s":4291,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},649,"103029","Es que empezamos a hablar de un tema que tal vez las personas que están viendo no están siguiendo.",3084.78,3088.56,{"idx":4293,"utterance_id":4294,"speaker_name":174,"text":4295,"start_s":4296,"end_s":4297,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},650,"103030","Por eso me preocupa entenderlo.",3088.6,3089.96,{"idx":4299,"utterance_id":4300,"speaker_name":174,"text":4301,"start_s":4302,"end_s":4303,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},651,"103031","Esa fintech que recibía ese porcentaje... de las personas que ganaban el beneficio social.",3090.42,3096.12,{"idx":4305,"utterance_id":4306,"speaker_name":174,"text":4307,"start_s":4308,"end_s":4309,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},652,"103032","¿Esa fintech ganó tanto durante sus mandatos?",3096.4,3099.92,{"idx":4311,"utterance_id":4312,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4313,"start_s":4314,"end_s":4315,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},653,"103033","No sé.",3100.48,3101.42,{"idx":4317,"utterance_id":4318,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4319,"start_s":4320,"end_s":4321,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},654,"103034","Usted puede pedirlo, yo puedo pedir una evaluación.",3101.92,3104.28,{"idx":865,"utterance_id":4323,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4324,"start_s":4325,"end_s":4326,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},"103035","¿Cómo voy a saber un dato de ese tipo?",3104.44,3106.22,{"idx":4328,"utterance_id":4329,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4330,"start_s":4331,"end_s":4332,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},656,"103036","Tengo, en Goiás, tengo 800 mil beneficiarios.",3107.08,3110.48,{"idx":4334,"utterance_id":4335,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4336,"start_s":4337,"end_s":4338,"word_count":32,"indexable":177},657,"103037","Tengo Mães de Goiás, tengo Bolsa Estudo, tengo apoyo a la persona idosa, tengo alquiler social, tengo programa de uniformes, los tengo todos, puedo enviárselos.",3111.68,3124.76,{"idx":4340,"utterance_id":4341,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4342,"start_s":4343,"end_s":4344,"word_count":290,"indexable":177},658,"103038","Ahora, lo que es importante, creo que la sociedad tiene que entender aquí, es una sola cosa.",3125.32,3129.82,{"idx":4346,"utterance_id":4347,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4348,"start_s":4349,"end_s":4350,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},659,"103039","Mire, hay una empresa que está ahí.",3130.62,3132.6,{"idx":4352,"utterance_id":4353,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4354,"start_s":4355,"end_s":4356,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},660,"103040","¿Quién es el responsable de hacer el saneamiento de esas empresas?",3133.02,3136.98,{"idx":4358,"utterance_id":4359,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4360,"start_s":4361,"end_s":4362,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},661,"103041","¿Quién?",3137.1,3137.28,{"idx":4364,"utterance_id":4365,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4366,"start_s":4367,"end_s":4368,"word_count":198,"topic_slug":4369,"topic_label":4370,"target_id":4371,"target_proposition":4372,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":4373,"indexable":244},662,"103042","¿Es el gobernador que no tiene al 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registre allí como una empresa de actividad con las letras en negrita del Banco Central.",3183,3193.46,{"idx":4440,"utterance_id":4441,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4442,"start_s":4443,"end_s":4444,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},674,"103054","Las letras, eso no es que lo puse yo, fue el Banco Central quien lo mandó.",3193.62,3196.96,{"idx":4446,"utterance_id":4447,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2140,"start_s":4448,"end_s":4449,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},675,"103055",3197.44,3197.7,{"idx":4451,"utterance_id":4452,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4453,"start_s":4454,"end_s":4455,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},676,"103056","Totalmente autorizada para esas finalidades, para cumplir esas finalidades financieras.",3198.18,3203.14,{"idx":4457,"utterance_id":4458,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4459,"start_s":4460,"end_s":4461,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},677,"103057","Entonces, esto está aquí.",3203.38,3204.64,{"idx":4463,"utterance_id":4464,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4465,"start_s":4466,"end_s":4467,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},678,"103058","Está colocado aquí.",3205.32,3206.58,{"idx":4469,"utterance_id":4470,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4471,"start_s":4472,"end_s":4473,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},679,"103059","En negrita aquí, vea. Autorizada en la actividad de institución de pago.",3207.04,3213.56,{"idx":4475,"utterance_id":4476,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4477,"start_s":4478,"end_s":4479,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},680,"103060","Mire aquí.",3214.84,3215.14,{"idx":4481,"utterance_id":4482,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4483,"start_s":4484,"end_s":4485,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},681,"103061","Entonces, usted tiene todo eso.",3216.1,3217.32,{"idx":910,"utterance_id":4487,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4488,"start_s":4489,"end_s":4490,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},"103062","¿Quién es el que le pasa esto al gobernador?",3217.46,3220.38,{"idx":4492,"utterance_id":4493,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4494,"start_s":4495,"end_s":4496,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},683,"103063","Es el Banco Central.",3220.64,3221.38,{"idx":4498,"utterance_id":4499,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4500,"start_s":4501,"end_s":4502,"word_count":383,"indexable":177},684,"103064","Entonces, ¿cómo va usted a responsabilizar al Estado, siendo que el mismo... Allí dentro en los Correos y en el CEP, había contratos miles de millones de veces más voluminosos que con Goiás?",3222.1,3234.32,{"idx":4504,"utterance_id":4505,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4506,"start_s":4507,"end_s":4508,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},685,"103065","Pero, lógicamente, esto tiene un objetivo.",3234.72,3236.38,{"idx":4510,"utterance_id":4511,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4512,"start_s":4513,"end_s":4514,"word_count":231,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":31,"target_id":4515,"target_proposition":4516,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":3700,"rationale":4517,"indexable":244},686,"103066","Están viendo que voy a derrotar a Lula.",3236.42,3238.7,"679f1d57-f735-465a-a282-3223c660a586","investigar las relaciones entre partidos políticos y organizaciones criminales","acusa al PT de ser 'guarda-costas do crime organizado' y exige responsabilización.",{"idx":4519,"utterance_id":4520,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4521,"start_s":4522,"end_s":4523,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},687,"103067","Porque le dije al principio, la disputa es moral.",3239.3,3241.78,{"idx":4525,"utterance_id":4526,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4527,"start_s":4528,"end_s":4529,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},688,"103068","La disputa es moral.",3242.66,3243.56,{"idx":4531,"utterance_id":4532,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4533,"start_s":4534,"end_s":4535,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},689,"103069","Ellos no tienen forma de afectarme en eso.",3243.74,3245.36,{"idx":4537,"utterance_id":4538,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4539,"start_s":4540,"end_s":4541,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},690,"103070","Ahora, esto es para mostrar cuánto el PT es guardaespaldas del crimen organizado en Brasil.",3246.52,3255.76,{"idx":4543,"utterance_id":4544,"speaker_name":174,"text":4545,"start_s":4546,"end_s":4547,"word_count":491,"topic_slug":4548,"topic_label":4549,"target_id":4550,"target_proposition":4551,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":4552,"indexable":244},691,"103071","Gobernador, un punto importante, creo que en la agenda brasileña, tal vez no es directamente, o al menos exclusivamente, responsabilidad del presidente de la República; usted fue el primero, quizás, en decir claramente que va a conceder una amnistía a todos los involucrados en el 8 de enero y así sucesivamente.",3256.92,3274.9,"justica-criminal","Justicia penal","240dfea6-6c74-4133-ad9b-b27ddc72a320","conceder amnistía a los responsables de la invasión de edificios públicos","relata que el gobernador afirmó que concederá amnistía.",{"idx":935,"utterance_id":4554,"speaker_name":174,"text":4555,"start_s":4556,"end_s":4557,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},"103072","Pero la pregunta, vamos, quizá no tenga respuesta, ¿no?",3275.54,3278.12,{"idx":4559,"utterance_id":4560,"speaker_name":174,"text":4561,"start_s":4562,"end_s":4563,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},693,"103073","Pero, ¿cómo lidia usted con eso?",3278.16,3280.1,{"idx":4565,"utterance_id":4566,"speaker_name":174,"text":4567,"start_s":4568,"end_s":4569,"word_count":362,"indexable":177},694,"103074","¿Qué garantiza que el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) acepte esto, en el sentido de que, bueno, muchas cosas que fueron definidas en el ámbito ejecutivo, en el ámbito legislativo, el STF las reformó?",3280.38,3290.96,{"idx":60,"utterance_id":4571,"speaker_name":174,"text":4572,"start_s":4573,"end_s":4574,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},"103075","¿Cómo se hace?",3292.12,3292.58,{"idx":4576,"utterance_id":4577,"speaker_name":174,"text":4578,"start_s":4579,"end_s":4580,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},696,"103076","Y quería preguntarle esto a usted: ¿cómo equaciona este tema democrático en Brasil?",3292.68,3298.26,{"idx":4582,"utterance_id":4583,"speaker_name":174,"text":4584,"start_s":4585,"end_s":4586,"word_count":278,"topic_slug":4587,"topic_label":4588,"target_id":4589,"target_proposition":4590,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":4591,"indexable":244},697,"103077","Y además, quería preguntarle específicamente: Lula decretó la otra semana esos decretos de regulación de las redes sociales.",3298.78,3307.12,"regulacao-do-ambiente-digital","Regulación del entorno digital","ea28c70f-ca03-4734-918d-923ec4dc1295","garantizar la tramitación de proyectos que reglamentan las redes sociales","informa que Lula decretó la regulación de las redes sociales.",{"idx":4593,"utterance_id":4594,"speaker_name":174,"text":4595,"start_s":4596,"end_s":4597,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},698,"103078","por la Agencia Nacional de Protección de Datos.",3308.24,3310.82,{"idx":4599,"utterance_id":4600,"speaker_name":174,"text":4601,"start_s":4602,"end_s":4603,"word_count":191,"topic_slug":4587,"topic_label":4588,"target_id":4589,"target_proposition":4590,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":452,"rationale":4604,"indexable":244},699,"103079","Fueron muy criticados en términos de posibilidad o potencial censura en Brasil.",3311.08,3316.02,"Afirma que la medida fue muy criticada por su potencial de censura.",{"idx":4606,"utterance_id":4607,"speaker_name":174,"text":4608,"start_s":4609,"end_s":4610,"word_count":219,"topic_slug":4587,"topic_label":4588,"target_id":4589,"target_proposition":4590,"stance":4611,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":4612,"indexable":177},700,"103080","Una preocupación que, por cierto, comparto.",3316.68,3319.04,"contra","Declara compartir preocupación por una posible censura.",{"idx":964,"utterance_id":4614,"speaker_name":174,"text":4615,"start_s":4616,"end_s":4617,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":4618,"topic_label":4619,"target_id":4620,"target_proposition":4621,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":4622,"indexable":177},"103081","¿Cuál es su visión, por cierto, sobre el mismo tema en relación con la AGU, casos reconocidos, inclusive con los periodistas, de censura?",3319.4,3328.12,"liberdade-de-expressao-censura","Libertad de expresión y censura","3e9f0249-ca7f-437e-9b71-362e90e603ac","evitar la censura a periodistas por órganos públicos como la AGU","Pregunta sobre casos reconocidos de censura por la AGU a periodistas.",{"idx":4624,"utterance_id":4625,"speaker_name":174,"text":4626,"start_s":4627,"end_s":4628,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},702,"103082","¿Cuál es su posición?",3328.18,3330.18,{"idx":4630,"utterance_id":4631,"speaker_name":174,"text":4632,"start_s":4633,"end_s":4634,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},703,"103083","¿Cómo va a lidiar usted con eso?",3330.22,3331.48,{"idx":4636,"utterance_id":4637,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4638,"start_s":4639,"end_s":4640,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},704,"103084","Mire, en primer lugar, usted sabe que viví gran parte de mi vida en el Congreso Nacional.",3332.14,3337.42,{"idx":4642,"utterance_id":4643,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4644,"start_s":4645,"end_s":4646,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},705,"103085","No estaría diciendo algo que no tuviera fundamento.",3338.3,3341.58,{"idx":4648,"utterance_id":4649,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4650,"start_s":4651,"end_s":4652,"word_count":267,"topic_slug":4653,"topic_label":4654,"target_id":4655,"target_proposition":4656,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":874,"rationale":4657,"indexable":244},706,"103086","Cuando yo, que estoy aquí en una cadena de televisión, hablo para todo Brasil, digo que en mi plan de gobierno habrá un tratamiento profiláctico para acabar con la polarización en Brasil.",3342.36,3354.44,"polarizacao-politica-e-divisao-do-pais","Polarización política","7515ee6f-b469-4db1-a2b3-734fe7ee9836","reducir la polarización política y promover la unidad nacional","Anuncia la inclusión en el plan de gobierno de un tratamiento para acabar con la polarización.",{"idx":4659,"utterance_id":4660,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4661,"start_s":4662,"end_s":4663,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":4548,"topic_label":4549,"target_id":4550,"target_proposition":4551,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":4664,"rationale":4665,"indexable":244},707,"103087","Voy a amnistiar a todos, hacer lo mismo que hizo Juscelino Kubitschek.",3354.74,3357.74,0.95,"Declara explícitamente: 'Eu vou anistiar todos'.",{"idx":4667,"utterance_id":4668,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4669,"start_s":4670,"end_s":4671,"word_count":262,"topic_slug":4672,"topic_label":4673,"target_id":4674,"target_proposition":4675,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":4676,"indexable":244},708,"103088","Cuando usted presenta eso en un plan de gobierno, eso viene en forma plebiscitaria.",3358.08,3363.5,"processo-eleitoral","Proceso electoral","84ff3259-8192-4a4c-814e-8de9a9fbf41d","someter propuesta de amnistía a plebiscito","Afirma que la medida 'vem em forma plebiscitária' en el plan de gobierno.",{"idx":4678,"utterance_id":4679,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4680,"start_s":4681,"end_s":4682,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},709,"103089","Es decir, el elector está votando por Caiado.",3364.24,3366.82,{"idx":4684,"utterance_id":4685,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4686,"start_s":4687,"end_s":4688,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":4689,"topic_label":4690,"target_id":4691,"target_proposition":4692,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":410,"rationale":4693,"indexable":244},710,"103090","Sabiendo que eso lo voy a hacer, que voy a calificar como terroristas a las facciones criminales, que voy a impulsar reformas administrativas, laborales y todo lo demás.",3367.18,3376.66,"reforma-administrativa-e-trabalhista","Reforma Administrativa y Laboral","1f95bb3a-0ecb-4fbb-bd72-a04e31f7411a","aprobar reformas administrativas y laborales","Declara que enviará reformas administrativas y laborales.",{"idx":4695,"utterance_id":4696,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4697,"start_s":4698,"end_s":4699,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},711,"103091","Nada de eso está siendo omitido.",3377,3378.9,{"idx":54,"utterance_id":4701,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4702,"start_s":4703,"end_s":4704,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":4672,"topic_label":4673,"target_id":4705,"target_proposition":4706,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":563,"rationale":4707,"indexable":244},"103092","La soberanía del voto es mayor que cualquier poder constituido.",3379.86,3385.74,"162764dc-e23d-4577-915c-6cafa5744f6d","priorizar la soberanía del voto sobre decisiones de otros poderes","Afirma que 'a soberania do voto é maior do que qualquer poder'.",{"idx":4709,"utterance_id":4710,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4711,"start_s":4712,"end_s":4713,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},713,"103093","Eso no se discute.",3387.04,3388.4,{"idx":4715,"utterance_id":4716,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4717,"start_s":4718,"end_s":4719,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},714,"103094","Ese tema está resuelto.",3389.12,3392.24,{"idx":4721,"utterance_id":4722,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4723,"start_s":4724,"end_s":4725,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},715,"103095","El voto... supera cualquier otra interpretación de quien sea.",3392.6,3396.98,{"idx":4727,"utterance_id":4728,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2140,"start_s":4729,"end_s":4730,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},716,"103096",3397.5,3397.82,{"idx":4732,"utterance_id":4733,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4734,"start_s":4735,"end_s":4736,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},717,"103097","Entonces, mi pregunta está respondida.",3398.2,3399.8,{"idx":4738,"utterance_id":4739,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4740,"start_s":4741,"end_s":4742,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},718,"103098","Vamos al segundo punto para usted.",3400.18,3401.42,{"idx":4744,"utterance_id":4745,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4746,"start_s":4747,"end_s":4748,"word_count":224,"topic_slug":4587,"topic_label":4588,"target_id":4749,"target_proposition":4750,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":452,"rationale":4751,"indexable":244},719,"103099","¿Sabía usted que Brasil no tiene ninguna legislación que regule la inteligencia artificial?",3401.8,3408.16,"bdf35453-af61-41a4-a7cb-427a2aba1242","adoptar regulación proemprendedora para inteligencia artificial","Afirma como hecho la ausencia de legislación federal sobre IA.",{"idx":4753,"utterance_id":4754,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4755,"start_s":4756,"end_s":4757,"word_count":217,"topic_slug":4587,"topic_label":4588,"target_id":4758,"target_proposition":4759,"stance":4611,"stance_confidence":1977,"rationale":4760,"indexable":244},720,"103100","¿Sabía usted que Brasil copia un modelo europeo que está siendo rechazado por el mundo?",3413.58,3419.36,"0d05982d-b4a9-466a-9df4-a4769cd5a0f0","adoptar un modelo europeo de regulación de la inteligencia artificial","Critica el modelo europeo, diciendo que está siendo rechazado.",{"idx":4762,"utterance_id":4763,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4764,"start_s":4765,"end_s":4766,"word_count":324,"topic_slug":4587,"topic_label":4588,"target_id":4758,"target_proposition":4759,"stance":4611,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":4767,"indexable":244},721,"103101","Hasta Europa está cambiando, donde es una estructura montada para beneficiar despachos y poder criminalizar todo el avance de la inteligencia artificial en Brasil?",3419.44,3433.28,"Afirma que el modelo europeo criminaliza el avance de la IA.",{"idx":4769,"utterance_id":4770,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4771,"start_s":4772,"end_s":4773,"word_count":445,"topic_slug":4587,"topic_label":4588,"target_id":4749,"target_proposition":4750,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":4774,"indexable":244},722,"103102","¿Sabía usted que Goiás ya tiene inteligencia artificial, la modulación de la inteligencia artificial, la regla regulatoria de la inteligencia artificial ya sancionada por mí y reconocida por los más grandes, todas las personas del área de la ciencia, de la tecnología, de la innovación en Brasil y en el mundo?",3433.54,3455.96,"Afirma haber sancionado una norma regulatoria en Goiás (código abierto).",{"idx":4776,"utterance_id":4777,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4778,"start_s":4779,"end_s":4780,"word_count":389,"topic_slug":4587,"topic_label":4588,"target_id":4749,"target_proposition":4750,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":4781,"indexable":244},723,"103103","Que tenemos una propuesta, una ley de código abierto, que tenemos la capacidad de poder hacer las correcciones de acuerdo con algunos excesos, pero jamás penalizando la inteligencia de quien creó esa plataforma.",3457.04,3473.5,"Defiende una propuesta de ley de código abierto para la IA.",{"idx":4783,"utterance_id":4784,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4785,"start_s":4786,"end_s":4787,"word_count":290,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":4788,"target_proposition":4789,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":2314,"rationale":4790,"indexable":244},724,"103104","Goiás tiene hoy la plataforma más sofisticada de combate al crimen organizado con inteligencia artificial desarrollada en Goiás.",3474.22,3481.38,"00788cd5-2d38-40cc-b68f-a64e65f64769","usar inteligencia artificial para combatir el crimen organizado","Afirma que Goiás tiene una plataforma sofisticada de IA contra el crimen organizado.",{"idx":4792,"utterance_id":4793,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4794,"start_s":4795,"end_s":4796,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":4797,"topic_label":4798,"target_id":4799,"target_proposition":4800,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":4801,"indexable":244},725,"103105","Tenemos un centro de excelencia en inteligencia artificial que presta servicio a iFood, a las aseguradoras en Brasil y a varias otras empresas.",3481.98,3489.7,"inovacao-e-pesquisa","Innovación y Investigación","bc496418-23ee-4b13-89ad-1860cd0d4388","implementar un hub de innovación y actividades de IA en el centro para la revitalización urbana","Reclama un centro que presta servicio a empresas como iFood.",{"idx":4803,"utterance_id":4804,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4805,"start_s":4806,"end_s":4807,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":4808,"topic_label":4809,"target_id":4810,"target_proposition":4811,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":396,"rationale":4812,"indexable":244},726,"103106","Goiás tiene una ley de autoridad de minerales críticos en el estado de Goiás, algo que el gobierno federal no tiene.",3490.26,3498.24,"politica-de-mineracao","Política de Minería","66138341-2da6-4bd0-b8ef-a0a96d3eac35","crear un marco regulatorio para las tierras raras en Brasil","Afirma que tiene sancionada una ley estatal sobre minerales críticos.",{"idx":4814,"utterance_id":4815,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4816,"start_s":4817,"end_s":4818,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},727,"103107","Él quería crear una terra braz.",3498.46,3501.38,{"idx":4820,"utterance_id":4821,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4822,"start_s":4823,"end_s":4824,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},728,"103108","Yo ya tengo una ley en Goiás que trata de las riquezas minerales.",3502.34,3505.42,{"idx":4826,"utterance_id":4827,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4828,"start_s":4829,"end_s":4830,"word_count":198,"topic_slug":4831,"topic_label":4832,"target_id":4833,"target_proposition":4834,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":452,"rationale":4835,"indexable":244},729,"103109","Goiás ya está haciendo una radiografía del subsuelo.",3506,3510.44,"recursos-naturais-e-soberania","Recursos Naturales Y Soberanía","e6fe1053-e62a-4400-a297-6b67246d814f","realizar mapeo geológico e hídrico del subsuelo para planificación","Afirma que Goiás realiza una radiografía del subsuelo y zonificación.",{"idx":4837,"utterance_id":4838,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4839,"start_s":4840,"end_s":4841,"word_count":324,"indexable":177},730,"103110","con tecnología externa, para hacer una radiografía hasta 400 metros de profundidad de los minerales que tengo en el Estado, todo esto siendo zonificado.",3510.86,3519.34,{"idx":4843,"utterance_id":4844,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4845,"start_s":4846,"end_s":4847,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},731,"103111","Y el potencial de agua que tengo en el subsuelo para hacer riego.",3520.02,3523.6,{"idx":4849,"utterance_id":4850,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4851,"start_s":4852,"end_s":4853,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},732,"103112","Entienda, Chur, es solo gobernar con trabajo, es solo gobernar con capacidad.",3524.4,3529.1,{"idx":4855,"utterance_id":4856,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4857,"start_s":4858,"end_s":4859,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},733,"103113","Y eso es lo que falta en Brasil.",3529.72,3531.28,{"idx":4861,"utterance_id":4862,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4863,"start_s":4864,"end_s":4865,"word_count":59,"indexable":177},734,"103114","Cuando usted pregunta por qué China está adelante, por qué India está adelante, es por eso.",3531.56,3537.76,{"idx":4867,"utterance_id":4868,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4869,"start_s":4870,"end_s":4871,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},735,"103115","Es la falta de un presidente.",3538.58,3540.22,{"idx":4873,"utterance_id":4874,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4875,"start_s":4876,"end_s":4877,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},736,"103116","Usted cambia el perfil de un país desde que usted asuma.",3540.26,3543.6,{"idx":4879,"utterance_id":4880,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4881,"start_s":4882,"end_s":4883,"word_count":21,"indexable":177},737,"103117","Ahora, si usted tiene que encubrir a un hermano que está robando, a un hijo que está robando, usted que está robando, no hay manera, amigo mío.",3543.82,3549.38,{"idx":4885,"utterance_id":4886,"speaker_name":174,"text":4887,"start_s":4888,"end_s":4889,"word_count":262,"indexable":177},738,"103118","Gobernador, usted citó al Congreso y usted conoce bien al Congreso.",3549.42,3553.6,{"idx":4891,"utterance_id":4892,"speaker_name":174,"text":4893,"start_s":4894,"end_s":4895,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},739,"103119","Y sabe que todo cambió allí.",3553.9,3555.46,{"idx":4897,"utterance_id":4898,"speaker_name":174,"text":4899,"start_s":4900,"end_s":4901,"word_count":297,"indexable":177},740,"103120","La relación del ejecutivo con el legislativo hoy en Brasil no tiene nada que ver con lo que era.",3556.2,3560.6,{"idx":4903,"utterance_id":4904,"speaker_name":174,"text":4905,"start_s":4906,"end_s":4907,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},741,"103121","La cuestión de la gobernabilidad hoy es un enigma.",3561.12,3564.14,{"idx":4909,"utterance_id":4910,"speaker_name":174,"text":4911,"start_s":4912,"end_s":4913,"word_count":295,"topic_slug":4914,"topic_label":4915,"target_id":4916,"target_proposition":4917,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":4918,"indexable":177},742,"103122","El poder que ese Congreso tiene, inclusive las enmiendas están ahí en el centro de esa discusión, es un asunto que compite con las políticas públicas del gobierno que fue elegido para gobernar.",3565.46,3575.2,"relacao-executivo-congresso-e-tramitacao-de-propostas","Relación Ejecutivo-Congreso y tramitación de propuestas","5a897813-85fc-4fb3-a25a-d37083a21956","regular el uso de enmiendas parlamentarias obligatorias que compiten con políticas públicas","Señala que las enmiendas impositivas compiten con las políticas públicas del gobierno.",{"idx":4920,"utterance_id":4921,"speaker_name":174,"text":4922,"start_s":4923,"end_s":4924,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},743,"103123","Entonces, ese es un tremendo problema.",3575.84,3577.76,{"idx":4926,"utterance_id":4927,"speaker_name":174,"text":4928,"start_s":4929,"end_s":4930,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},744,"103124","Quisiera su opinión al respecto.",3578.24,3580.22,{"idx":4932,"utterance_id":4933,"speaker_name":174,"text":4934,"start_s":4935,"end_s":4936,"word_count":210,"topic_slug":4914,"topic_label":4915,"target_id":4937,"target_proposition":4938,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":4939,"indexable":177},745,"103125","¿Cómo va usted a formar su mayoría, en caso de que usted resulte elegido, para poder gobernar?",3580.64,3586.08,"f534e1db-5ce6-4d33-8dbe-e67b25af9f52","formar una mayoría parlamentaria para garantizar la gobernabilidad","Pregunta cómo el gobernador formaría mayoría para gobernar.",{"idx":4941,"utterance_id":4942,"speaker_name":174,"text":4943,"start_s":4944,"end_s":4945,"word_count":404,"indexable":177},746,"103126","¿Cómo va usted a... imponer sus ideas incluso para que sean discutidas en el Congreso, cuando el Congreso tiene el poder que nunca tuvo y que es casi una obstrucción al gobierno en algunos momentos?",3586.48,3598.52,{"idx":4947,"utterance_id":4948,"speaker_name":174,"text":4949,"start_s":4950,"end_s":4951,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},747,"103127","¿Cómo ve usted eso?",3598.86,3599.84,{"idx":4953,"utterance_id":4954,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4955,"start_s":4956,"end_s":4957,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},748,"103128","Porque usted acababa de citar aquí que el Congreso debatía la materia, ¿no tenía voto virtual?",3601.66,3608.18,{"idx":4959,"utterance_id":4960,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4961,"start_s":4962,"end_s":4963,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},749,"103129","El debate era de contenido, era de aprobación del presupuesto, era de fiscalización del gobierno, ¿está bien?",3609.58,3615.54,{"idx":4965,"utterance_id":4966,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4967,"start_s":4968,"end_s":4969,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},750,"103130","Y no era verdadero.",3615.76,3616.94,{"idx":4971,"utterance_id":4972,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4973,"start_s":4974,"end_s":4975,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},751,"103131","Gestores de enmienda impositiva.",3617.02,3619.36,{"idx":4977,"utterance_id":4978,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4979,"start_s":4980,"end_s":4981,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},752,"103132","Pero entonces, exactamente lo que estamos discutiendo.",3620.48,3623,{"idx":4983,"utterance_id":4984,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4985,"start_s":4986,"end_s":4987,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},753,"103133","Dígame, ¿qué hay con la presidencia libre?",3623.6,3625.24,{"idx":4989,"utterance_id":4990,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":4991,"start_s":4992,"end_s":4993,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},754,"103134","¿Cuál es el sistema político brasileño?",3625.3,3627.86,{"idx":4995,"utterance_id":4996,"speaker_name":174,"text":4997,"start_s":4998,"end_s":4999,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},755,"103135","Es un presidencialismo con apariencia de parlamentarismo.",3629.6,3631.68,{"idx":5001,"utterance_id":5002,"speaker_name":174,"text":5003,"start_s":5004,"end_s":5005,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},756,"103136","Con apariencia de nada.",3632.02,3632.96,{"idx":5007,"utterance_id":5008,"speaker_name":174,"text":5009,"start_s":5010,"end_s":5011,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},757,"103137","Presidencialismo con el Congreso lleno de dinero.",3633.06,3634.16,{"idx":5013,"utterance_id":5014,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5015,"start_s":5016,"end_s":5017,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},758,"103138","Con aspecto de desorden institucional.",3634.2,3636.94,{"idx":5019,"utterance_id":5020,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5021,"start_s":5022,"end_s":5023,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},759,"103139","Ahí está nuestro científico.",3636.98,3637.96,{"idx":5025,"utterance_id":5026,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5027,"start_s":5028,"end_s":5029,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},760,"103140","Desorden institucional.",3638.5,3640.34,{"idx":5031,"utterance_id":5032,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5033,"start_s":5034,"end_s":5035,"word_count":191,"topic_slug":5036,"topic_label":5037,"target_id":5038,"target_proposition":5039,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":5040,"rationale":5041,"indexable":177},761,"103141","Lo que puede llevar a una desobediencia civil como consecuencia de este hecho.",3641.32,3646.92,"instituicoes","Instituciones","97352809-c799-4ccb-8f15-04a8772825c7","prevenir la desobediencia civil derivada de una crisis institucional",0.65,"Advierte que el desorden institucional puede conducir a la desobediencia civil.",{"idx":5043,"utterance_id":5044,"speaker_name":174,"text":5045,"start_s":5046,"end_s":5047,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},762,"103142","Nuestra Constitución es parlamentarista.",3647.14,3648.92,{"idx":5049,"utterance_id":5050,"speaker_name":174,"text":5051,"start_s":5052,"end_s":5053,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},763,"103143","Se encaminaba hacia el parlamentarismo.",3648.96,3650.86,{"idx":5055,"utterance_id":5056,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5057,"start_s":5058,"end_s":5059,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},764,"103144","Pero el asunto es que tú tienes al presidente por voluntad popular.",3651.88,3655.68,{"idx":5061,"utterance_id":5062,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5063,"start_s":5064,"end_s":5065,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},765,"103145","Entonces no son 513, 594, 81 senadores los que van a cambiar ese proceso.",3656.5,3661.58,{"idx":5067,"utterance_id":5068,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5069,"start_s":5070,"end_s":5071,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},766,"103146","Así que vayamos a los hechos.",3661.68,3663,{"idx":5073,"utterance_id":5074,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5075,"start_s":5076,"end_s":5077,"word_count":324,"topic_slug":4672,"topic_label":4673,"target_id":5078,"target_proposition":5079,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":242,"rationale":5080,"indexable":244},767,"103147","¿Crees que un presidente de la República, de la misma manera, le dijo a él que yo voy a... El STF, mira aquí, tengo aprobación popular.",3664.62,3671.76,"33e33e39-9f6c-4715-bd09-1b9095b43a6c","usar la aprobación popular para legitimar acciones presidenciales ante otros poderes","Sugiere que la aprobación popular legitima acciones frente al STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) y el Congreso Nacional.",{"idx":5082,"utterance_id":5083,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5084,"start_s":5085,"end_s":5086,"word_count":251,"indexable":177},768,"103148","Diputados y senadores, miren, el proyecto de gobierno es esto aquí.",3672.5,3675.84,{"idx":5088,"utterance_id":5089,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5090,"start_s":5091,"end_s":5092,"word_count":219,"topic_slug":4914,"topic_label":4915,"target_id":5093,"target_proposition":5094,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":2314,"rationale":5095,"indexable":177},769,"103149","Mira, la enmienda obligatoria solo cabe aquí dentro.",3678,3681.96,"2e0c7ef5-e93c-4b74-b041-e974d688f0f9","limitar las enmiendas parlamentarias impositivas al ámbito del proyecto de gobierno","Afirma que la enmienda impositiva 'só cabe aqui dentro' del proyecto de gobierno.",{"idx":5097,"utterance_id":5098,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5099,"start_s":5100,"end_s":5101,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},770,"103150","No cabe fuera ni un milímetro.",3683.08,3684.74,{"idx":5103,"utterance_id":5104,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":2140,"start_s":5105,"end_s":5106,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},771,"103151",3684.78,3687.26,{"idx":5108,"utterance_id":5109,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5110,"start_s":5111,"end_s":5112,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},772,"103152","Solo cabe dentro del proyecto de gobierno.",3687.66,3689.78,{"idx":5114,"utterance_id":5115,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5116,"start_s":5117,"end_s":5118,"word_count":212,"indexable":177},773,"103153","Eso es el presidencialismo, amigo mío.",3691.12,3693.16,{"idx":5120,"utterance_id":5121,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5122,"start_s":5123,"end_s":5124,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},774,"103154","No renuncio ni a un milímetro.",3693.5,3695.32,{"idx":5126,"utterance_id":5127,"speaker_name":174,"text":5128,"start_s":5129,"end_s":5130,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},775,"103155","Si el Congreso Nacional puede no concordar con el presidente, ¿y entonces qué se hace?",3695.68,3698.76,{"idx":5132,"utterance_id":5133,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5134,"start_s":5135,"end_s":5136,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},776,"103156","Espera, amigo mío.",3699.32,3700.14,{"idx":5138,"utterance_id":5139,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5140,"start_s":5141,"end_s":5142,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},777,"103157","¿Tú... Tiene la función de presidente de la República, la función del Legislativo, o cambió?",3700.28,3709,{"idx":49,"utterance_id":5144,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5145,"start_s":5146,"end_s":5147,"word_count":186,"indexable":177},"103158","No cambió.",3709.42,3709.88,{"idx":5149,"utterance_id":5150,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5151,"start_s":5152,"end_s":5153,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},779,"103159","Se deformó.",3710.8,3712.36,{"idx":5155,"utterance_id":5156,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5157,"start_s":5158,"end_s":5159,"word_count":179,"indexable":177},780,"103160","Diferente.",3713.06,3713.74,{"idx":5161,"utterance_id":5162,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5151,"start_s":5163,"end_s":5164,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},781,"103161",3714.6,3715.78,{"idx":5166,"utterance_id":5167,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5168,"start_s":5169,"end_s":5170,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},782,"103162","Esa misma pregunta me la hacían a mí.",3716.56,3718.34,{"idx":5172,"utterance_id":5173,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5174,"start_s":5175,"end_s":5176,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},783,"103163","El Caiado con las reformas... Con 10 meses de gobierno, lo van a destituir aquí en Goiás.",3719.08,3724.34,{"idx":5178,"utterance_id":5179,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5180,"start_s":5181,"end_s":5182,"word_count":191,"indexable":177},784,"103164","Salí del gobierno con 88% de aprobación y todos los diputados...",3724.68,3729.28,{"idx":5184,"utterance_id":5185,"speaker_name":174,"text":5186,"start_s":5187,"end_s":5188,"word_count":224,"indexable":177},785,"103165","Mira, la moderadora de este debate está con dificultad, porque nuestro tiempo se agotó.",3730.26,3734.7,{"idx":5190,"utterance_id":5191,"speaker_name":174,"text":5192,"start_s":5193,"end_s":5194,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},786,"103166","Tiene que ser entonces una ronda de preguntas rápidas con el gobernador.",3734.8,3737.42,{"idx":5196,"utterance_id":5197,"speaker_name":174,"text":5198,"start_s":5199,"end_s":5200,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":1863,"topic_label":1864,"target_id":5201,"target_proposition":5202,"stance":241,"stance_confidence":452,"rationale":5203,"indexable":244},787,"103167","¿Sale la alianza con Romeu Zema o no sale?",3737.54,3739.4,"ebea5377-195f-4f29-98fd-ce2b72eab423","formar alianza con Flávio Bolsonaro en la segunda vuelta","Pregunta si la alianza con Romeu Zema se da o no.",{"idx":5205,"utterance_id":5206,"speaker_name":174,"text":5207,"start_s":5208,"end_s":5209,"word_count":219,"indexable":177},788,"103168","¿Y usted como vice de Zema?",3739.6,3742.04,{"idx":5211,"utterance_id":5212,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5213,"start_s":5214,"end_s":5215,"word_count":236,"topic_slug":1863,"topic_label":1864,"target_id":5216,"target_proposition":5217,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":452,"rationale":5218,"indexable":244},789,"103169","Puedes saber que nosotros vamos a continuar, pero ya viste que ya hemos pacificado, ¿no?",3742.58,3747.32,"6802136c-d408-4007-90f9-4a8c8654b655","mantener alianza política con Romeu Zema","Afirma 'nós vamos continuar' y que ya pacificaron la relación.",{"idx":5220,"utterance_id":5221,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5222,"start_s":5223,"end_s":5224,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},790,"103170","Ya dimos el primer paso.",3748.18,3749.44,{"idx":5226,"utterance_id":5227,"speaker_name":174,"text":5228,"start_s":5229,"end_s":5230,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},791,"103171","¿Pero pacificar al señor vice?",3749.52,3751,{"idx":5232,"utterance_id":5233,"speaker_name":174,"text":5234,"start_s":5235,"end_s":5236,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},792,"103172","Una preguntasita, gobernador.",3751.08,3752.2,{"idx":5238,"utterance_id":5239,"speaker_name":174,"text":5240,"start_s":5241,"end_s":5242,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},793,"103173","Dentro de ocho días, gobernador.",3752.8,3754.62,{"idx":5244,"utterance_id":5245,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5246,"start_s":5247,"end_s":5248,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},794,"103174","Todo así, nadie quiere crear problemas, vamos a trabajar.",3755.42,3758.02,{"idx":5250,"utterance_id":5251,"speaker_name":174,"text":5252,"start_s":5253,"end_s":5254,"word_count":231,"indexable":177},795,"103175","Y ahí nosotros vamos a continuar, pero a la manera de Minas.",3758.06,3760.72,{"idx":5256,"utterance_id":5257,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5258,"start_s":5259,"end_s":5260,"word_count":303,"indexable":177},796,"103176","Tú eres mineira, sabes cómo es. No comes la papilla hundiendo la cuchara en medio del plato.",3760.76,3765.48,{"idx":5262,"utterance_id":5263,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5264,"start_s":5265,"end_s":5266,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},797,"103177","Se come la papilla por los borde, ¿entiendes?",3765.52,3768.38,{"idx":5268,"utterance_id":5269,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5270,"start_s":5271,"end_s":5272,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":1863,"topic_label":1864,"target_id":5273,"target_proposition":5274,"stance":409,"stance_confidence":1600,"rationale":5275,"indexable":177},798,"103178","Entonces vamos a hacer política de ese modo, comiendo por los bordes, despacito.",3769,3772.4,"c39ae8f8-5d71-4f70-a651-10f241be19f0","hacer alianzas políticas para obtener cargos","Declara estrategia de hacer política 'comendo pelas beiradas', despacio.",{"idx":5277,"utterance_id":5278,"speaker_name":174,"text":5279,"start_s":5280,"end_s":5281,"word_count":210,"indexable":177},799,"103179","Complementando, gobernador, ¿usted ya tiene una cita fijada con... con Zema dentro de ocho días?",3772.46,3778.42,{"idx":5283,"utterance_id":5284,"speaker_name":174,"text":5285,"start_s":5286,"end_s":5287,"word_count":200,"indexable":177},800,"103180","No, será antes.",3778.62,3780.06,{"idx":5289,"utterance_id":5290,"speaker_name":174,"text":5291,"start_s":5292,"end_s":5293,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},801,"103181","Será antes.",3780.34,3781.14,{"idx":5295,"utterance_id":5296,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5297,"start_s":5298,"end_s":5299,"word_count":330,"indexable":177},802,"103182","Es que el lunes es el gran encuentro de la leche, que es la mayor exposición de leche de América Latina, será allá en Belo Horizonte.",3781.22,3789.68,{"idx":5301,"utterance_id":5302,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5303,"start_s":5304,"end_s":5305,"word_count":4,"indexable":177},803,"103183","Creo que me encontraré con él allí también.",3789.74,3791.14,{"idx":5307,"utterance_id":5308,"speaker_name":174,"text":5309,"start_s":5310,"end_s":5311,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},804,"103184","Aprovéchalo y arregla eso con él.",3791.18,3792.34,{"idx":5313,"utterance_id":5314,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5315,"start_s":5316,"end_s":5317,"word_count":198,"indexable":177},805,"103185","No, no, estaremos conversando, esas cosas.",3793.14,3795.24,{"idx":5319,"utterance_id":5320,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5321,"start_s":5322,"end_s":5323,"word_count":267,"indexable":177},806,"103186","Oh, Mito, tú que eres veterano, eso no existe así, ¿eh? Sabes cómo es. Había un ciudadano, es lo siguiente, déjame contar, no hay forma de contarlo, solo un caso, no.",3796.08,3803.96,{"idx":5325,"utterance_id":5326,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5327,"start_s":5328,"end_s":5329,"word_count":9,"indexable":177},807,"103187","Hay un ciudadano allá en Minas Gerais, en la tierra del Río, en Oliveira, dijo que llegó un ciudadano montado en una mula muy bonita, ¿de acuerdo?",3804.28,3811.86,{"idx":5331,"utterance_id":5332,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5333,"start_s":5334,"end_s":5335,"word_count":297,"indexable":177},808,"103188","Entonces dijo que cada hora, todo el mundo llegaba, y él pedía un precio excesivo y no vendía la mula.",3812.2,3817,{"idx":5337,"utterance_id":5338,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5339,"start_s":5340,"end_s":5341,"word_count":217,"indexable":177},809,"103189","Y el ciudadano llegó y dijo así, ¿cuánto quiere usted por la 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chanha.",3824.66,3826.08,{"idx":5366,"utterance_id":5367,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5368,"start_s":5369,"end_s":5370,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},814,"103194","Tienes que pedir menos.",3826.12,3827.32,{"idx":5372,"utterance_id":5373,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5374,"start_s":5375,"end_s":5376,"word_count":236,"indexable":177},815,"103195","Tengo que bajar un poco, tú llegas y compras mi mula de una vez.",3827.4,3830.1,{"idx":5378,"utterance_id":5379,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5380,"start_s":5381,"end_s":5382,"word_count":193,"indexable":177},816,"103196","No, no la vendo.",3830.18,3830.84,{"idx":5384,"utterance_id":5385,"speaker_name":113,"speaker_slug":112,"text":5386,"start_s":5387,"end_s":5388,"word_count":184,"indexable":177},817,"103197","Entonces, la política no es 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