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que Clóvis de Barros, eres un explicador y yo valoro mucho a los explicadores.",335.88,340.2,{"idx":705,"utterance_id":706,"speaker_name":69,"text":707,"start_s":708,"end_s":709,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},108,"217729","Me gusta mucho eso porque tus libros son accesibles, a pesar de que son bastante complejos.",340.88,346.38,{"idx":711,"utterance_id":712,"speaker_name":69,"text":713,"start_s":714,"end_s":715,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},109,"217730","Creo que es el mejor elogio que se le puede hacer a un autor.",347.72,350.96,{"idx":717,"utterance_id":718,"speaker_name":69,"text":719,"start_s":720,"end_s":721,"word_count":239,"indexable":74},110,"217731","Llegas tanto... a personas que buscan una capa un poco más elevada como a las personas que toman la primera, segunda, tercera capa y pueden ir navegando y descubrir nuevos 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eso te influye.",468.8,470.98,{"idx":979,"utterance_id":980,"speaker_name":96,"text":981,"start_s":982,"end_s":983,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},155,"217776","Ah, ya.",471.38,471.64,{"idx":985,"utterance_id":986,"speaker_name":96,"text":987,"start_s":988,"end_s":989,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},156,"217777","Los excluyes.",471.66,472.36,{"idx":991,"utterance_id":992,"speaker_name":96,"text":993,"start_s":994,"end_s":995,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},157,"217778","De la convivencia y tal.",473.36,474.26,{"idx":997,"utterance_id":998,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":999,"start_s":1000,"end_s":1001,"word_count":261,"indexable":74},158,"217779","A tus padres, a tus amigos, puedes excluir a Dios, pero nunca puedes excluir tu memoria, porque ella define quién eres. 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¿no?",522.08,527.26,{"idx":1075,"utterance_id":1076,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":1077,"start_s":1078,"end_s":1079,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},171,"217792","Exactamente, exactamente.",527.82,529.56,{"idx":1081,"utterance_id":1082,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":1083,"start_s":1084,"end_s":1085,"word_count":266,"indexable":74},172,"217793","Bueno, entonces tenemos que ser humildes, ya que la construcción de pensamientos se forma de... de manera tan compleja, y yo estudié mucho eso, y tal vez fui uno de los raros con estructuras de conocimiento.",530.04,541.68,{"idx":1087,"utterance_id":1088,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":1089,"start_s":1090,"end_s":1091,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},173,"217794","¿Sigues estudiando?",541.76,542.38,{"idx":1093,"utterance_id":1094,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":1095,"start_s":1096,"end_s":1097,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},174,"217795","Sigo 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pensamientos perturbadores te... pasan por la mente?",907.7,911.92,{"idx":1746,"utterance_id":1747,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":1748,"start_s":1749,"end_s":1750,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},285,"217906","Tiene seis años, ¿no?",912.22,913.94,{"idx":1752,"utterance_id":1753,"speaker_name":96,"text":1754,"start_s":1755,"end_s":1756,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},286,"217907","Va a cumplir nueve ahora.",914.12,915.06,{"idx":1758,"utterance_id":1759,"speaker_name":96,"text":1760,"start_s":1761,"end_s":1762,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},287,"217908","Tiene ocho, va a cumplir nueve ahora.",915.1,916.34,{"idx":1764,"utterance_id":1765,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":1766,"start_s":1767,"end_s":1768,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},288,"217909","Pero usted no se imagina cuántos fantasmas mentales se construyen en la 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empresa.",1485.64,1487.94,{"idx":2608,"utterance_id":2609,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2610,"start_s":2611,"end_s":2612,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},430,"218051","¿Se ha imaginado en cada favela, cada favela, cada comunidad?",1488.18,1491.8,{"idx":2614,"utterance_id":2615,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2616,"start_s":2617,"end_s":2618,"word_count":245,"indexable":74},431,"218052","Allí hay personas increíbles que comparten el frijol, comparten el arroz, son más solidarias, muchas veces, que quienes viven en grandes condominios, que no conocen al vecino de enfrente o del piso de arriba.",1492.08,1501.78,{"idx":2620,"utterance_id":2621,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2622,"start_s":2623,"end_s":2624,"word_count":193,"indexable":74},432,"218053","¿Se ha imaginado que ellos puedan compartir esa historia, que puedan tener un banco de emprendedores y una escuela de emprendedores en cada comunidad?",1502.4,1508.04,{"idx":2626,"utterance_id":2627,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2628,"start_s":2629,"end_s":2630,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},433,"218054","Eso es lo que quiero.",1509.2,1509.84,{"idx":2632,"utterance_id":2633,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2634,"start_s":2635,"end_s":2636,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},434,"218055","¿Se ha imaginado en cada escuela pública, en cada iglesia, en cada ciudad pequeña, mediana o grande?",1510.3,1514.42,{"idx":2638,"utterance_id":2639,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2640,"start_s":2641,"end_s":2642,"word_count":278,"indexable":74},435,"218056","Una escuela del emprendedor con una agencia de la microempresa esperando el tsunami o esperando la avalancha de la inteligencia artificial que va a arrebatar millones o, quién sabe, decenas de millones de empleos, generando desempleo masivo.",1514.72,1530.74,{"idx":2644,"utterance_id":2645,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2646,"start_s":2647,"end_s":2648,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},436,"218057","Usted sabe eso.",1530.76,1531.46,{"idx":2650,"utterance_id":2651,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2652,"start_s":2653,"end_s":2654,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},437,"218058","Usted aquí habla sobre estos temas.",1531.74,1533.54,{"idx":2656,"utterance_id":2657,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2658,"start_s":2659,"end_s":2660,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},438,"218059","Ahora, si nos preparamos para tener una economía distribuida, el mundo cambia.",1534.46,1539.44,{"idx":2662,"utterance_id":2663,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2664,"start_s":2665,"end_s":2666,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},439,"218060","Ahora, imaginen que también demos énfasis a las personas 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soy?",1586.96,1587.58,{"idx":2739,"utterance_id":2740,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2741,"start_s":2742,"end_s":2743,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},452,"218073","Soy puente.",1587.6,1588.26,{"idx":2745,"utterance_id":2746,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2747,"start_s":2748,"end_s":2749,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},453,"218074","No estoy en el muro.",1589.22,1590.36,{"idx":2751,"utterance_id":2752,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2753,"start_s":2754,"end_s":2755,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},454,"218075","Soy puente, lo mejor del desarrollo económico.",1590.68,1593.8,{"idx":2757,"utterance_id":2758,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2759,"start_s":2760,"end_s":2761,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},455,"218076","A un nivel que incluso aquellos que abogan por la libertad económica no han conocido.",1594.08,1598.98,{"idx":2763,"utterance_id":2764,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2765,"start_s":2766,"end_s":2767,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},456,"218077","Porque también soy empresario.",1599.02,1600.7,{"idx":2769,"utterance_id":2770,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2771,"start_s":2772,"end_s":2773,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},457,"218078","Tenemos empresas que impactaron a varios países.",1601.22,1603.3,{"idx":2775,"utterance_id":2776,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2777,"start_s":2778,"end_s":2779,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},458,"218079","No solo psiquiatra y escritor, sino también quien escucha.",1604,1607.22,{"idx":2781,"utterance_id":2782,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2783,"start_s":2784,"end_s":2785,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},459,"218080","Mi corazón es 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jornada.",1634.22,1637.64,{"idx":2835,"utterance_id":2836,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2837,"start_s":2838,"end_s":2839,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},468,"218089","No necesito, de hecho, no dependo del poder, pero estoy aquí, en un ambiente tan deletéreo, tan autodestructivo, para contribuir con la sociedad brasileña.",1638.2,1648.34,{"idx":2841,"utterance_id":2842,"speaker_name":69,"text":2843,"start_s":2844,"end_s":2845,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},469,"218090","Y con respecto a las encuestas, Augusto, ¿qué opina usted?",1650.14,1653.18,{"idx":2847,"utterance_id":2848,"speaker_name":69,"text":2849,"start_s":2850,"end_s":2851,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},470,"218091","Tenemos algunas encuestas ahí, las últimas, ¿no?",1654.52,1656.32,{"idx":2853,"utterance_id":2854,"speaker_name":69,"text":2855,"start_s":2856,"end_s":2857,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},471,"218092","Póngala en la pantalla para que la evaluemos.",1656.98,1658.36,{"idx":2859,"utterance_id":2860,"speaker_name":69,"text":2861,"start_s":2862,"end_s":2863,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},472,"218093","¿Cómo evalúa usted estas primeras veces que aparece en las encuestas?",1658.92,1664.8,{"idx":2865,"utterance_id":2866,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2867,"start_s":2868,"end_s":2869,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},473,"218094","¿Sabe que entre el 85% y el 90% no sabe que soy precandidato?",1664.82,1669.02,{"idx":2871,"utterance_id":2872,"speaker_name":96,"text":2873,"start_s":2874,"end_s":2875,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},474,"218095","Yo creo.",1669.84,1670.46,{"idx":2877,"utterance_id":2878,"speaker_name":96,"text":2879,"start_s":2880,"end_s":2881,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},475,"218096","Miren eso.",1670.72,1670.96,{"idx":2883,"utterance_id":2884,"speaker_name":96,"text":2885,"start_s":2886,"end_s":2887,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},476,"218097","Este es de mayo de 26, es Futura 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semanas.",1686.42,1688.52,{"idx":2912,"utterance_id":2913,"speaker_name":96,"text":2914,"start_s":2910,"end_s":2915,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},481,"218102","2%.",1688.9,{"idx":2917,"utterance_id":2918,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2919,"start_s":2920,"end_s":2921,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},482,"218103","Estamos con 2% en la Folha de São Paulo.",1688.92,1691.56,{"idx":2923,"utterance_id":2924,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2925,"start_s":2926,"end_s":2927,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},483,"218104","¿Sabes una cosa hermosa?",1692.14,1693.04,{"idx":2929,"utterance_id":2930,"speaker_name":96,"text":2931,"start_s":2932,"end_s":2933,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},484,"218105","¿Qué lectura haces?",1693.06,1694,{"idx":2935,"utterance_id":2936,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2937,"start_s":2938,"end_s":2939,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},485,"218106","La lectura es que la gente aún no sabe que soy precandidato.",1694.08,1697.44,{"idx":2941,"utterance_id":2942,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2943,"start_s":2944,"end_s":2945,"word_count":158,"indexable":74},486,"218107","Hoy estaba en un restaurante y una persona llamada Marcos, un camarero, vino a abrazarme.",1697.86,1702.3,{"idx":2947,"utterance_id":2948,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2949,"start_s":2950,"end_s":2951,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},487,"218108","Caramba, muchas gracias, me ayudas en tantas horas difíciles de mi vida.",1702.8,1707.14,{"idx":2953,"utterance_id":2954,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2955,"start_s":2956,"end_s":2957,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},488,"218109","Ansiedad, depresión.",1707.58,1708.82,{"idx":2959,"utterance_id":2960,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2961,"start_s":2962,"end_s":2963,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},489,"218110","Quiero agradecerte.",1709.56,1710.42,{"idx":2965,"utterance_id":2966,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2967,"start_s":2968,"end_s":2969,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},490,"218111","¡Oh Marcos, también es un honor poder tenerte como lector!",1711.12,1714.66,{"idx":2971,"utterance_id":2972,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2973,"start_s":2974,"end_s":2975,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},491,"218112","¿Pero sabes la novedad?",1714.74,1716,{"idx":2977,"utterance_id":2978,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2979,"start_s":2980,"end_s":2981,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},492,"218113","No, ¿qué novedad?",1716.46,1717.2,{"idx":2983,"utterance_id":2984,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2985,"start_s":2986,"end_s":2987,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},493,"218114","Soy precandidato a la presidencia.",1717.5,1718.86,{"idx":2989,"utterance_id":2990,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2991,"start_s":2992,"end_s":2993,"word_count":158,"indexable":74},494,"218115","Él me sigue en las redes sociales y no sabe que soy precandidato a la presidencia.",1719.7,1723.4,{"idx":2995,"utterance_id":2996,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2997,"start_s":2998,"end_s":2999,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},495,"218116","Entonces, existe una gran mayoría que aún no lo sabe.",1723.92,1727.48,{"idx":3001,"utterance_id":3002,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3003,"start_s":3004,"end_s":3005,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},496,"218117","Y lo bueno es eso: que tengo la menor tasa de rechazo y tenemos posibilidad de crecimiento.",1727.88,1732.36,{"idx":3007,"utterance_id":3008,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3009,"start_s":3010,"end_s":3011,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},497,"218118","Pero te voy a decir una cosa.",1733.26,1734.44,{"idx":3013,"utterance_id":3014,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3015,"start_s":3016,"end_s":3017,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},498,"218119","Lo que estamos haciendo, Vilela, es para cambiar la historia del país.",1735.58,1741.16,{"idx":3019,"utterance_id":3020,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3021,"start_s":3022,"end_s":3023,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},499,"218120","Esa polarización, esa división cruel, ese discurso del odio, tiene que terminar.",1742.08,1748.46,{"idx":3025,"utterance_id":3026,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3027,"start_s":3028,"end_s":3029,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},500,"218121","De lo contrario, el país no sobrevive.",1748.52,1751.56,{"idx":3031,"utterance_id":3032,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3033,"start_s":3034,"end_s":3035,"word_count":223,"indexable":74},501,"218122","Cuatro o cinco años más en esta disputa irracional no lo soportamos, porque pagamos 1 billón y 140 mil millones en intereses solo para refinanciar la deuda federal.",1751.98,1762.54,{"idx":3037,"utterance_id":3038,"speaker_name":69,"text":3039,"start_s":3040,"end_s":3041,"word_count":379,"indexable":74},502,"218123","No sé si ya hiciste ese análisis, Augusto, pero lo que se percibe es que... difícilmente pasa a la segunda vuelta alguien que no tenga un discurso un poco más extremo, ya sea a la izquierda o a la derecha, que no se ubique mucho en el centro, ni a la izquierda ni a la derecha.",1762.64,1782.46,{"idx":3043,"utterance_id":3044,"speaker_name":69,"text":3045,"start_s":3046,"end_s":3047,"word_count":27,"indexable":74},503,"218124","Parece que son dos candidatos los que compiten ahora, Flávio y Lula, que tienen una rechazo muy grande, pero también tienen un... Tienen una porción fija allí que nadie cede.",1783.58,1798.82,{"idx":3049,"utterance_id":3050,"speaker_name":69,"text":3051,"start_s":3052,"end_s":3053,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},504,"218125","¿Por qué porción vas a pelear?",1799.1,1803.14,{"idx":3055,"utterance_id":3056,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3057,"start_s":3058,"end_s":3059,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},505,"218126","Voy a pelear, o vamos a luchar, y vamos a conquistar la porción de los cansados, de aquellos que no tienen voz.",1803.74,1810.5,{"idx":3061,"utterance_id":3062,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3063,"start_s":3064,"end_s":3065,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},506,"218127","Según las encuestas, más del 40%, de 46% hasta 50%, depende de la encuesta, no tiene bando.",1810.88,1818.44,{"idx":3067,"utterance_id":3068,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3069,"start_s":3070,"end_s":3071,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},507,"218128","Pero hace falta alguien.",1820.9,1821.82,{"idx":3073,"utterance_id":3074,"speaker_name":96,"text":3075,"start_s":3076,"end_s":3077,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},508,"218129","Vota para que el otro no gane.",1821.84,1823.22,{"idx":3079,"utterance_id":3080,"speaker_name":96,"text":172,"start_s":3081,"end_s":3082,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},509,"218130",1823.28,1824,{"idx":3084,"utterance_id":3085,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3086,"start_s":3087,"end_s":3088,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},510,"218131","Pero tienen que saber que hay alguien que quiere presentarse, que se está posicionando como la voz de los invisibles, de los cansados, de los silenciados.",1824.52,1833.9,{"idx":3090,"utterance_id":3091,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3092,"start_s":3093,"end_s":3094,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},511,"218132","¿Pero te presentas como antisistema?",1833.92,1835.08,{"idx":3096,"utterance_id":3097,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3098,"start_s":3099,"end_s":3100,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},512,"218133","No, no soy antisistema.",1835.7,1836.76,{"idx":3102,"utterance_id":3103,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3104,"start_s":3105,"end_s":3106,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},513,"218134","Tenemos que trabajar asuntos importantes del sistema.",1837.12,1839.74,{"idx":3108,"utterance_id":3109,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3110,"start_s":3111,"end_s":3112,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},514,"218135","No sirve que quede piedra sobre piedra.",1839.8,1842.72,{"idx":3114,"utterance_id":3115,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3116,"start_s":3117,"end_s":3118,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},515,"218136","Porque en ese proceso de transición, que no quede piedra sobre piedra, puede haber guerras, puede haber revoluciones.",1843.08,1848.78,{"idx":3120,"utterance_id":3121,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2676,"start_s":3122,"end_s":3123,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},516,"218137",1848.82,1848.98,{"idx":3125,"utterance_id":3126,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3127,"start_s":3128,"end_s":3129,"word_count":193,"indexable":74},517,"218138","Tenemos que usar todas las estrategias de inteligencia para perfeccionar el sistema, para estimular el desarrollo y el emprendimiento.",1849.68,1858.98,{"idx":3131,"utterance_id":3132,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3133,"start_s":3134,"end_s":3135,"word_count":239,"indexable":74},518,"218139","Mira, he hablado de varios proyectos, para que podamos tener una medicina de calidad, para que tengamos una educación completamente diferente a la actual, incluso para también apoyar a las mujeres.",1859.36,1872.9,{"idx":3137,"utterance_id":3138,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3139,"start_s":3140,"end_s":3141,"word_count":158,"indexable":74},519,"218140","Bueno, me siguen, tengo casi 15 millones de personas en mis redes sociales.",1873.7,1878.88,{"idx":3143,"utterance_id":3144,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3145,"start_s":3146,"end_s":3147,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},520,"218141","Y el 70% son mujeres.",1879.94,1882.22,{"idx":3149,"utterance_id":3150,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3151,"start_s":3152,"end_s":3153,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},521,"218142","Y las mujeres representan el oro de la humanidad.",1883.42,1886.28,{"idx":3155,"utterance_id":3156,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3157,"start_s":3158,"end_s":3159,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},522,"218143","¿Sabes cada cuántas horas una mujer es asesinada por sus parejas o maridos?",1887.08,1892.74,{"idx":3161,"utterance_id":3162,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3163,"start_s":3164,"end_s":3165,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},523,"218144","Cada 5 horas.",1893.22,1894.2,{"idx":3167,"utterance_id":3168,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3169,"start_s":3170,"end_s":3171,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},524,"218145","¿Sabes qué porcentaje ganan menos que los hombres por los mismos trabajos?",1894.84,1898.9,{"idx":3173,"utterance_id":3174,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":1943,"start_s":3171,"end_s":3175,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},525,"218146",1898.94,{"idx":3177,"utterance_id":3178,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3179,"start_s":3180,"end_s":3181,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},526,"218147","¿Sabes cuánto más pagan de intereses que los hombres, aunque son mejores pagadoras?",1900.76,1906.56,{"idx":3183,"utterance_id":3184,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3185,"start_s":3181,"end_s":3186,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},527,"218148","4% al año.",1907.98,{"idx":3188,"utterance_id":3189,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3190,"start_s":3191,"end_s":3192,"word_count":188,"indexable":74},528,"218149","¿Cómo vamos a cambiar, romper la burbuja, eso es lo que estás diciendo, conquistando el corazón de la gente?",1909.3,1915.12,{"idx":3194,"utterance_id":3195,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3196,"start_s":3197,"end_s":3198,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},529,"218150","Voy a hablar de proyectos, voy a hablar de eso, centrado en lo que importa, con foco en las personas.",1915.84,1921.98,{"idx":3200,"utterance_id":3201,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":1356,"start_s":3202,"end_s":3203,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},530,"218151",1922.34,1923.8,{"idx":3205,"utterance_id":3206,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3207,"start_s":3208,"end_s":3209,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},531,"218152","Ahora, espero que cada vez más esto se convierta en una ola.",1924.32,1928.44,{"idx":3211,"utterance_id":3212,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3213,"start_s":3214,"end_s":3215,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},532,"218153","Estuve, incluso, allí en... No sé si llegaste a ver en mis videos sociales allá en Amazonas, hace tres días.",1928.78,1935.18,{"idx":3217,"utterance_id":3218,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3219,"start_s":3220,"end_s":3221,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},533,"218154","No lo creerías.",1935.54,1936.36,{"idx":3223,"utterance_id":3224,"speaker_name":96,"text":3225,"start_s":3226,"end_s":3227,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},534,"218155","Viví allí hace dos años.",1937.08,1937.96,{"idx":3229,"utterance_id":3230,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3231,"start_s":3232,"end_s":3233,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},535,"218156","Diez mil personas en un estadio y doce mil fuera.",1939.14,1943.46,{"idx":3235,"utterance_id":3236,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3237,"start_s":3238,"end_s":3239,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},536,"218157","Había más de veinte mil personas queriendo escucharnos.",1944.18,1946.82,{"idx":3241,"utterance_id":3242,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3243,"start_s":3244,"end_s":3245,"word_count":193,"indexable":74},537,"218158","Estaba yo, estaba Davi, que es el candidato al gobierno, y estaba allí Renato, que es alcalde de Manaus.",1947.56,1956.14,{"idx":3247,"utterance_id":3248,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3249,"start_s":3250,"end_s":3251,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},538,"218159","Fue un encuentro indescriptible, ¿sabes?",1956.96,1960.3,{"idx":3253,"utterance_id":3254,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3255,"start_s":3256,"end_s":3257,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},539,"218160","que te llena los ojos.",1962.56,1963.84,{"idx":3259,"utterance_id":3260,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3261,"start_s":3262,"end_s":3263,"word_count":239,"indexable":74},540,"218161","Incluso me subieron a los hombros de una persona; no me gusta eso, pero me pusieron sobre los hombros, pasando en medio de la multitud, intentando mantener el equilibrio.",1964.38,1972.62,{"idx":3265,"utterance_id":3266,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3267,"start_s":3268,"end_s":3269,"word_count":272,"indexable":74},541,"218162","Pero entonces hablamos del Brasil de nuestros sueños, el Brasil contra el discurso del odio, el Brasil que quiere unir a las familias de nuevo, para que incluso tengan la libertad de decir por quién van a votar.",1973.58,1983.34,{"idx":3271,"utterance_id":3272,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3273,"start_s":3274,"end_s":3275,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},542,"218163","¿Has notado que la gente tiene miedo de decir por quién va a votar?",1983.64,1987.98,{"idx":3277,"utterance_id":3278,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3279,"start_s":3280,"end_s":3281,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},543,"218164","Porque hay una discusión interminable.",1988.9,1990.56,{"idx":3283,"utterance_id":3284,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3285,"start_s":3286,"end_s":3287,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},544,"218165","¿Qué país es este?",1990.82,1991.76,{"idx":3289,"utterance_id":3290,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3291,"start_s":3292,"end_s":3293,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},545,"218166","Antes no era así.",1992.48,1993.18,{"idx":3295,"utterance_id":3296,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3297,"start_s":3298,"end_s":3299,"word_count":239,"indexable":74},546,"218167","Claro que la radicalización y la polarización son un fenómeno mundial, debido a la urgencia de compromisos, debido a la cantidad de reacciones que tienes que tener y las respuestas de WhatsApp.",1993.66,2006.48,{"idx":3301,"utterance_id":3302,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3303,"start_s":3304,"end_s":3305,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},547,"218168","WhatsApp causó... Tenías dos o tres llamadas que atendías, hoy tienes 100 que atiendes, recados.",2007.04,2014.44,{"idx":3307,"utterance_id":3308,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3309,"start_s":3310,"end_s":3311,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},548,"218169","O incluso más.",2014.98,2015.52,{"idx":1108,"utterance_id":3313,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3314,"start_s":3315,"end_s":3316,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},"218170","Además... El exceso de información.",2016.28,2018.7,{"idx":3318,"utterance_id":3319,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3320,"start_s":3321,"end_s":3322,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},550,"218171","Un niño de 7 años tiene más información que John Kennedy tenía en el apogeo de la Guerra Fría en Estados Unidos.",2019.32,2025.12,{"idx":3324,"utterance_id":3325,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3326,"start_s":3327,"end_s":3328,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},551,"218172","Todo eso acelera la mente humana y suspende la capacidad de tolerancia.",2025.76,2028.94,{"idx":3330,"utterance_id":3331,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3332,"start_s":3333,"end_s":3334,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},552,"218173","Cuanto más tienes la mente agitada, más hiperreactivo eres.",2029.36,2033.88,{"idx":3336,"utterance_id":3337,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3338,"start_s":3339,"end_s":3340,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},553,"218174","Eres menos tolerante.",2034.24,2035.24,{"idx":3342,"utterance_id":3343,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3344,"start_s":3345,"end_s":3346,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},554,"218175","No te das cuenta de que quienes tienen ideas diferentes no son enemigos a los que hay que abatir.",2035.28,2039.3,{"idx":3348,"utterance_id":3349,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3350,"start_s":3351,"end_s":3352,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},555,"218176","Esa es una pena que tengo.",2039.7,2040.98,{"idx":3354,"utterance_id":3355,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3356,"start_s":3357,"end_s":3358,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},556,"218177","Te voy a decir honestamente.",2041.02,2042.28,{"idx":3360,"utterance_id":3361,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3362,"start_s":3363,"end_s":3364,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},557,"218178","Los dos últimos presidentes.",2043.02,2044.56,{"idx":3366,"utterance_id":3367,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3368,"start_s":3369,"end_s":3370,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},558,"218179","Sin cuestionarlos, con respeto incluso hacia ellos.",2045.62,2047.94,{"idx":3372,"utterance_id":3373,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3374,"start_s":3375,"end_s":3376,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},559,"218180","Deberían, como profesores de la nación, decir: mira, tenemos ideas divergentes.",2048.82,2053.72,{"idx":3378,"utterance_id":3379,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3380,"start_s":3381,"end_s":3382,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},560,"218181","Ideas divergentes.",2054.04,2054.94,{"idx":3384,"utterance_id":3385,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3386,"start_s":3387,"end_s":3388,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},561,"218182","es la belleza de la democracia.",2055.38,2057.54,{"idx":3390,"utterance_id":3391,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3392,"start_s":3393,"end_s":3394,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},562,"218183","Las ideas divergentes jamás deberían servir de subsidio para que seamos enemigos a abatir.",2058.02,2064.9,{"idx":3396,"utterance_id":3397,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3398,"start_s":3399,"end_s":3400,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},563,"218184","Pero se transformó.",2065.74,2066.58,{"idx":3402,"utterance_id":3403,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3404,"start_s":3405,"end_s":3406,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},564,"218185","Y hoy el periodismo habla de polarización constantemente.",2068.02,2071.54,{"idx":3408,"utterance_id":3409,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3410,"start_s":3411,"end_s":3412,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},565,"218186","Veo a los periodistas queriendo arrastrarme",2071.84,2074.38,{"idx":3414,"utterance_id":3415,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3416,"start_s":3417,"end_s":3418,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},566,"218187","a ese tipo de debate que no lleva a nada.",2074.86,2078.82,{"idx":3420,"utterance_id":3421,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3422,"start_s":3423,"end_s":3424,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},567,"218188","Y todo es rápido, los periodistas, 5, 10 minutos.",2080.4,2082.68,{"idx":3426,"utterance_id":3427,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3428,"start_s":3429,"end_s":3430,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},568,"218189","Entonces, todo es rápido y aquello que atrae más audiencia, ellos quieren explotarlo, pero yo quiero trabajar proyectos.",2083.02,2089.22,{"idx":3432,"utterance_id":3433,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3434,"start_s":3435,"end_s":3436,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},569,"218190","Mira, las mujeres deben ser escuchadas, deben ser empoderadas.",2089.36,2093.42,{"idx":3438,"utterance_id":3439,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3440,"start_s":3441,"end_s":3442,"word_count":193,"indexable":74},570,"218191","Las mujeres que sufren violencia o son víctimas de feminicidio deben recibir penas enormes, sin atenuantes, de 40 años.",2093.88,2103.96,{"idx":3444,"utterance_id":3445,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3446,"start_s":3447,"end_s":3448,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},571,"218192","Sin atenuantes.",2104.52,2105.26,{"idx":1155,"utterance_id":3450,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3451,"start_s":3452,"end_s":3453,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},"218193","Las mujeres deben ser protegidas.",2105.66,2107.14,{"idx":3455,"utterance_id":3456,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3457,"start_s":3458,"end_s":3459,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},573,"218194","Tenemos que resolver esa ecuación en la que son disminuidas en la sociedad.",2107.44,2112.22,{"idx":3461,"utterance_id":3462,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3463,"start_s":3464,"end_s":3465,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},574,"218195","Bueno, entonces, creo que hablando de esto, Vilela, así como el Fureia Bolha de los libros, en un país que casi no lee, sueño y creo y voy a luchar para ser escuchado.",2113.06,2127.74,{"idx":3467,"utterance_id":3468,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3469,"start_s":3470,"end_s":3471,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},575,"218196","Si conquisto el corazón de las profesoras y de los profesores, conquistar el corazón de los agricultores y las agricultoras, conquistar el corazón de las mujeres, conquistar el corazón de los cooperativistas, hay 27 millones de cooperados.",2128.12,2142.12,{"idx":3473,"utterance_id":3474,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3475,"start_s":3476,"end_s":3477,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},576,"218197","Soy cooperativista desde hace 40 años.",2142.14,2144.7,{"idx":3479,"utterance_id":3480,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3481,"start_s":3482,"end_s":3483,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},577,"218198","Tenemos que doblar el número de cooperativas en Brasil y que los cooperativistas pasen a ser 50 millones de personas.",2144.78,2151.48,{"idx":3485,"utterance_id":3486,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3487,"start_s":3488,"end_s":3489,"word_count":158,"indexable":74},578,"218199","Si nosotros... abrazamos al comercio y la gente del comercio nos ha escuchado en las conferencias.",2152.16,2158.12,{"idx":3491,"utterance_id":3492,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3493,"start_s":3494,"end_s":3495,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},579,"218200","Reitero, las empresas no tienen un 5% o 6% de beneficio y pagan un 20% en costos al año.",2159.04,2166.42,{"idx":3497,"utterance_id":3498,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3499,"start_s":3500,"end_s":3501,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},580,"218201","Miles y miles de empresas están quebrando, están yendo a la quiebra.",2168.06,2172.42,{"idx":3503,"utterance_id":3504,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3505,"start_s":3506,"end_s":3507,"word_count":296,"indexable":74},581,"218202","Entonces, si vamos a escuchar, si tocamos el corazón, incluso de las personas que viven en las comunidades o favelas, como dije, y de los jóvenes, que quieren soñar, soñar con un Brasil distinto, un Brasil más pacífico, un Brasil emprendedor.",2173.02,2189.76,{"idx":3509,"utterance_id":3510,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3511,"start_s":3512,"end_s":3513,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},582,"218203","Bueno, me gustaría, para que te hagas una idea, también tener 10 mil personas haciendo doctorado en inteligencia artificial.",2190.46,2198.16,{"idx":3515,"utterance_id":3516,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3517,"start_s":3518,"end_s":3519,"word_count":233,"indexable":74},583,"218204","No vamos a tener cientos de miles de millones de dólares para tener un antrópico, un ChatGPT, o un deep seek, o cloud, pero podemos tener a los mejores aviadores.",2198.8,2211.92,{"idx":3521,"utterance_id":3522,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3523,"start_s":3524,"end_s":3525,"word_count":208,"indexable":74},584,"218205","Los mejores pilotos de la inteligencia artificial para hacer un doctorado aplicado a la biotecnología, a la medicina, a las vacunas, aplicado a la producción de medicamentos, en la agricultura.",2212.44,2224.56,{"idx":3527,"utterance_id":3528,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3529,"start_s":3530,"end_s":3531,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},585,"218206","Eso revoluciona al 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¿no?",2281.7,2282.6,{"idx":3605,"utterance_id":3606,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3607,"start_s":3608,"end_s":3609,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},598,"218219","Ya es bastante.",2282.88,2283.42,{"idx":3611,"utterance_id":3612,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3613,"start_s":3614,"end_s":3615,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},599,"218220","Después regreso para nunca más volver.",2283.46,2285.74,{"idx":3617,"utterance_id":3618,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3619,"start_s":3620,"end_s":3621,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},600,"218221","Dos tercios de magistrados de carrera.",2286.96,2289.02,{"idx":3623,"utterance_id":3624,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3625,"start_s":3626,"end_s":3627,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},601,"218222","Dos o tres del Ministerio Público y un abogado, ya no elegidos por el presidente, sino elegidos por 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Acabar con eso, ¿sabes? Reducir la máquina estatal.",2342.52,2346.16,{"idx":3725,"utterance_id":3726,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3727,"start_s":3728,"end_s":3729,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},618,"218239","Incluso, entender que somos una gran aeronave.",2346.54,2349.5,{"idx":3731,"utterance_id":3732,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3733,"start_s":3734,"end_s":3735,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},619,"218240","Brasil es una gran aeronave.",2350.8,2352,{"idx":3737,"utterance_id":3738,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3739,"start_s":3740,"end_s":3741,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},620,"218241","No tiene mucho combustible.",2352.4,2353.64,{"idx":3743,"utterance_id":3744,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3745,"start_s":3746,"end_s":3747,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},621,"218242","La deuda es enorme, los intereses son astronómicos.",2354.22,2356.68,{"idx":3749,"utterance_id":3750,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3751,"start_s":3752,"end_s":3753,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},622,"218243","Pagamos más de un billón de dólares, más de un billón de reais para refinanciar la deuda federal.",2357.06,2362.74,{"idx":3755,"utterance_id":3756,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3757,"start_s":3758,"end_s":3759,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},623,"218244","Cada niño nace debiendo 40 mil reais.",2363.08,2365.8,{"idx":3761,"utterance_id":3762,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3763,"start_s":3764,"end_s":3765,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},624,"218245","¿Lo sabías?",2365.84,2366.38,{"idx":64,"utterance_id":3767,"speaker_name":96,"text":2676,"start_s":3768,"end_s":3769,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},"218246",2366.54,2366.62,{"idx":3771,"utterance_id":3772,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3773,"start_s":3774,"end_s":3775,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},626,"218247","Tu hijo, él nace con 40 mil reais, pagando un 20% al año.",2367.1,2373.08,{"idx":3777,"utterance_id":3778,"speaker_name":96,"text":3779,"start_s":3780,"end_s":3781,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},627,"218248","Toma nota.",2374.22,2375.02,{"idx":3783,"utterance_id":3784,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3785,"start_s":3786,"end_s":3787,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},628,"218249","¿Y sabes una cosa, Vilela?",2375.22,2376.36,{"idx":3789,"utterance_id":3790,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3791,"start_s":3792,"end_s":3793,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},629,"218250","Da ganas de llorar, ¿sabes?",2377.32,2378.58,{"idx":3795,"utterance_id":3796,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3797,"start_s":3798,"end_s":3799,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},630,"218251","Y a veces, si no fuera...",2378.7,2379.72,{"idx":3801,"utterance_id":3802,"speaker_name":96,"text":3803,"start_s":3804,"end_s":3805,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},631,"218252","Y la cantidad de impuestos que pagamos también.",2380.28,2382.06,{"idx":3807,"utterance_id":3808,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3809,"start_s":3810,"end_s":3811,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},632,"218253","Y la cantidad de impuestos.",2382.1,2383.16,{"idx":3813,"utterance_id":3814,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3815,"start_s":3816,"end_s":3817,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},633,"218254","Y, Vilela, el dinero público es sagrado.",2383.8,2386.88,{"idx":3819,"utterance_id":3820,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3821,"start_s":3822,"end_s":3823,"word_count":245,"indexable":74},634,"218255","Como yo no dependo de la política, no dependo del dinero de la política, no vivo de la política y no quiero hacer una larga carrera política, quiero poner mi nombre esta vez.",2387.3,2395.68,{"idx":3825,"utterance_id":3826,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3827,"start_s":3828,"end_s":3829,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},635,"218256","Si tuviera el privilegio de sentarme en la silla de presidente, estoy en contra de la reelección e irme para no volver a votar.",2396.1,2401.24,{"idx":3831,"utterance_id":3832,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3833,"start_s":3834,"end_s":3835,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},636,"218257","Quiero decirte lo siguiente: el dinero público es sagrado.",2402.18,2405,{"idx":3837,"utterance_id":3838,"speaker_name":96,"text":3839,"start_s":3840,"end_s":3841,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},637,"218258","Es tuyo, es de cada... 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Con reducción de costos, con celeridad.",2431.14,2438.7,{"idx":3884,"utterance_id":3885,"speaker_name":96,"text":3886,"start_s":3887,"end_s":3888,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},645,"218266","Pero el presidencialismo en sí continúa.",2438.72,2440.82,{"idx":3890,"utterance_id":3891,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2676,"start_s":3892,"end_s":3893,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},646,"218267",2441.08,2441.24,{"idx":3895,"utterance_id":3896,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3897,"start_s":3898,"end_s":3899,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},647,"218268","Entonces propondría el semipresidencialismo.",2441.64,2444.84,{"idx":3901,"utterance_id":3902,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3903,"start_s":3904,"end_s":3905,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},648,"218269","Que es el semipresidencialismo.",2444.96,2445.92,{"idx":3907,"utterance_id":3908,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3909,"start_s":3910,"end_s":3911,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},649,"218270","Te voy a explicar.",2446.56,2447.64,{"idx":3913,"utterance_id":3914,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3915,"start_s":3916,"end_s":3917,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},650,"218271","Brasil es un país continente.",2448.48,2450.1,{"idx":3919,"utterance_id":3920,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3921,"start_s":3922,"end_s":3923,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},651,"218272","Es un país enorme, de dimensiones continentales.",2450.42,2452.64,{"idx":3925,"utterance_id":3926,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3927,"start_s":3928,"end_s":3929,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},652,"218273","Aquí caben varias Europas.",2452.96,2454.32,{"idx":3931,"utterance_id":3932,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3933,"start_s":3934,"end_s":3935,"word_count":158,"indexable":74},653,"218274","Bueno, somos tan gigantes y tenemos un Congreso que tiene muchas enmiendas, ¿cierto?",2454.78,2462.56,{"idx":3937,"utterance_id":3938,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3939,"start_s":3940,"end_s":3941,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},654,"218275","El Congreso, él... tiene una preponderancia entre los poderes.",2462.84,2467.7,{"idx":3943,"utterance_id":3944,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3945,"start_s":3946,"end_s":3947,"word_count":170,"indexable":74},655,"218276","Somos parlamentaristas de hecho, porque el Congreso domina muchas pautas, pero no somos parlamentaristas de derecho.",2468.2,2476.16,{"idx":3949,"utterance_id":3950,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3951,"start_s":3952,"end_s":3953,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},656,"218277","Entonces, ya que el Congreso tiene tanta preponderancia, ¿por qué no que el Congreso nombre a un primer ministro?",2477.36,2484.38,{"idx":3955,"utterance_id":3956,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3957,"start_s":3958,"end_s":3959,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},657,"218278","Y ese primer ministro se ocupará del día a día de la gestión de Brasil.",2485.26,2489.26,{"idx":3961,"utterance_id":3962,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3963,"start_s":3964,"end_s":3965,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},658,"218279","Miles de asuntos diarios.",2490.78,2492.02,{"idx":3967,"utterance_id":3968,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3969,"start_s":3970,"end_s":3971,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},659,"218280","¿Y el presidente qué será?",2492.16,2493.18,{"idx":3973,"utterance_id":3974,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3975,"start_s":3976,"end_s":3977,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},660,"218281","Se ocupará de lo estratégico, de aquello que es más 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traumas.",2507,2508.6,{"idx":4003,"utterance_id":4004,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4005,"start_s":4006,"end_s":4007,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},665,"218286","Porque, ¿cómo vas a destituir a un presidente?",2508.86,2510.64,{"idx":4009,"utterance_id":4010,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4011,"start_s":4012,"end_s":4013,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},666,"218287","El presidente, si es ineficiente, permanece cuatro años.",2510.82,2514.5,{"idx":4015,"utterance_id":4016,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4017,"start_s":4018,"end_s":4019,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},667,"218288","Si es impopular, permanece cuatro años.",2515.04,2516.66,{"idx":4021,"utterance_id":4022,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4023,"start_s":4024,"end_s":4025,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},668,"218289","Se va arrastrando.",2517.74,2518.54,{"idx":4027,"utterance_id":4028,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4029,"start_s":4030,"end_s":4031,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},669,"218290","Y si colocas un primer ministro, es mucho más fácil.",2519.16,2521.66,{"idx":4033,"utterance_id":4034,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4035,"start_s":4036,"end_s":4037,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},670,"218291","Pero, ¿quién tiene que decidir eso?",2521.9,2523,{"idx":61,"utterance_id":4039,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4040,"start_s":4041,"end_s":4042,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},"218292","No soy yo.",2523.28,2523.8,{"idx":4044,"utterance_id":4045,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4046,"start_s":4047,"end_s":4048,"word_count":193,"indexable":74},672,"218293","Pondría eso en plebiscito en el primer semestre del gobierno para ver si la sociedad brasileña quiere un país más eficiente.",2524.26,2532.58,{"idx":4050,"utterance_id":4051,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":3785,"start_s":4052,"end_s":4053,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},673,"218294",2532.8,2533.92,{"idx":4055,"utterance_id":4056,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4057,"start_s":4058,"end_s":4059,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},674,"218295","Todos los países que lo hicieron bien en las democracias fueron parlamentaristas.",2534.82,2541.02,{"idx":4061,"utterance_id":4062,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4063,"start_s":4064,"end_s":4065,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},675,"218296","O, como mínimo, semipresidencialistas.",2541.44,2543.12,{"idx":4067,"utterance_id":4068,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4069,"start_s":4070,"end_s":4071,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},676,"218297","El único que funcionó y que fue presidencialista fueron los Estados Unidos.",2543.8,2546.52,{"idx":4073,"utterance_id":4074,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4075,"start_s":4076,"end_s":4077,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},677,"218298","Todos los demás.",2547.34,2548.06,{"idx":4079,"utterance_id":4080,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4081,"start_s":4082,"end_s":4083,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},678,"218299","Canadá, Francia, Alemania, Italia, todos.",2548.74,2553.52,{"idx":4085,"utterance_id":4086,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":1302,"start_s":4087,"end_s":4088,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},679,"218300",2554.2,2554.5,{"idx":4090,"utterance_id":4091,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4092,"start_s":4093,"end_s":4094,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},680,"218301","Porque es un régimen mucho más coherente, más inteligente.",2554.7,2557.9,{"idx":4096,"utterance_id":4097,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4098,"start_s":4099,"end_s":4100,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},681,"218302","El primer ministro tiene que rendir cuentas todos los días.",2557.92,2560.74,{"idx":4102,"utterance_id":4103,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4104,"start_s":4105,"end_s":4106,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},682,"218303","Tiene que ser responsable.",2561.16,2562.44,{"idx":4108,"utterance_id":4109,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4110,"start_s":4111,"end_s":4112,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},683,"218304","Sabe que su cabeza está en juego.",2562.46,2564.46,{"idx":55,"utterance_id":4114,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4115,"start_s":4116,"end_s":4117,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},"218305","Sabe que si no es eficiente, si no es inteligente, si no hace una política correcta, está fuera del juego.",2565.38,2573.22,{"idx":4119,"utterance_id":4120,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4121,"start_s":4122,"end_s":4123,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},685,"218306","Ahora, no se puede hacer eso con el presidente.",2574.56,2576.26,{"idx":4125,"utterance_id":4126,"speaker_name":69,"text":4127,"start_s":4128,"end_s":4129,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},686,"218307","Estuve en China hace un mes.",2576.4,2578.12,{"idx":4131,"utterance_id":4132,"speaker_name":69,"text":4133,"start_s":4134,"end_s":4135,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},687,"218308","¿Y qué podemos aprender de China?",2578.7,2580.54,{"idx":4137,"utterance_id":4138,"speaker_name":69,"text":4139,"start_s":4140,"end_s":4141,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},688,"218309","Porque muchas cosas están funcionando bien allí.",2580.58,2582.24,{"idx":4143,"utterance_id":4144,"speaker_name":69,"text":4145,"start_s":4146,"end_s":4147,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},689,"218310","¿Qué se puede aprender de eso?",2584.32,2585.48,{"idx":4149,"utterance_id":4150,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4151,"start_s":4152,"end_s":4153,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},690,"218311","Bueno, tenemos el 12% de las tierras en el semiárido, que abarcan el norte de Minas, el Valle del Jequitinhonha y, en particular, el Nordeste.",2585.98,2596.06,{"idx":4155,"utterance_id":4156,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4157,"start_s":4158,"end_s":4159,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},691,"218312","El Nordeste nunca ha sido atendido por una política nacional.",2596.7,2599.82,{"idx":4161,"utterance_id":4162,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4163,"start_s":4164,"end_s":4165,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},692,"218313","Y yo abrazaría al Nordeste.",2600.3,2601.52,{"idx":4167,"utterance_id":4168,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4169,"start_s":4170,"end_s":4171,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},693,"218314","Estoy hablando del semiárido, donde llueven 500, 600 milímetros al año.",2601.54,2607.34,{"idx":4173,"utterance_id":4174,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4175,"start_s":4171,"end_s":4176,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},694,"218315","600 litros de 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eso?",2647.98,2649.26,{"idx":4250,"utterance_id":4251,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4252,"start_s":4253,"end_s":4254,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},707,"218328","Tendríamos que traer fondos internacionales con seguro en dólares para que podamos tener tasas de interés del 5% al 6%.",2649.6,2655.28,{"idx":4256,"utterance_id":4257,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4258,"start_s":4259,"end_s":4260,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},708,"218329","Debe haber seguro en dólares.",2655.96,2656.9,{"idx":4262,"utterance_id":4263,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4264,"start_s":4265,"end_s":4266,"word_count":27,"indexable":74},709,"218330","Si el fondo de Abu Dhabi, el fondo de Arabia Saudita aporta aquí a R$ 5 por dólar, dentro de cinco años recibirá R$ 5 más un 3% o 4% de interés anual.",2657.28,2668.26,{"idx":4268,"utterance_id":4269,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4270,"start_s":4271,"end_s":4272,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},710,"218331","Entonces podríamos prestar a una tasa de interés del 5% al 6% anual.",2669.32,2673.4,{"idx":4274,"utterance_id":4275,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4276,"start_s":4277,"end_s":4278,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},711,"218332","Así tendríamos una revolución en el país.",2673.82,2675.66,{"idx":4280,"utterance_id":4281,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4282,"start_s":4283,"end_s":4284,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},712,"218333","He estado conversando con varios economistas.",2676.76,2678.16,{"idx":4286,"utterance_id":4287,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4288,"start_s":4289,"end_s":4290,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},713,"218334","¿Y por qué digo eso?",2678.62,2679.44,{"idx":4292,"utterance_id":4293,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4294,"start_s":4295,"end_s":4296,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},714,"218335","Soy psiquiatra y estoy entrando en el área de la economía.",2679.46,2681.88,{"idx":4298,"utterance_id":4299,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4300,"start_s":4301,"end_s":4302,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},715,"218336","Porque estudio este país desde hace más de 25 años.",2681.9,2685.24,{"idx":4304,"utterance_id":4305,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4306,"start_s":4307,"end_s":4308,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},716,"218337","Tengo cifras que la gente no tiene.",2685.64,2687.42,{"idx":4310,"utterance_id":4311,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4312,"start_s":4313,"end_s":4314,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},717,"218338","Lo estudio; no estoy entrando en Brasil como una 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personas.",2718.3,2721.98,{"idx":4364,"utterance_id":4365,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4366,"start_s":4367,"end_s":4368,"word_count":272,"indexable":74},726,"218347","Seleccionar a los mejores líderes de los partidos que tienen experiencia en gestión, seleccionar también a los mejores líderes de las empresas que tienen experiencia en gestión empresarial, y a los mejores líderes, incluso, de las universidades, los mejores economistas; pacto nacional.",2722.26,2739.02,{"idx":4370,"utterance_id":4371,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4372,"start_s":4373,"end_s":4374,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},727,"218348","Vamos a revolucionar el sistema.",2740.06,2742.38,{"idx":4376,"utterance_id":4377,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4378,"start_s":4379,"end_s":4380,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},728,"218349","¿Te imaginas el Brasil que podríamos 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razonamiento?",2805.68,2807.98,{"idx":4452,"utterance_id":4453,"speaker_name":69,"text":4454,"start_s":4455,"end_s":4456,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},741,"218362","Después volvemos a eso.",2808.3,2808.94,{"idx":4458,"utterance_id":4459,"speaker_name":69,"text":4460,"start_s":4461,"end_s":4462,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},742,"218363","Pero, ¿por qué el agro es tan atacado?",2808.96,2810.32,{"idx":4464,"utterance_id":4465,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4466,"start_s":4467,"end_s":4468,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},743,"218364","Sabes que, desgraciadamente, el agro es atacado por el 2% de las personas que cometen delitos ambientales.",2810.46,2817.08,{"idx":4470,"utterance_id":4471,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4472,"start_s":4473,"end_s":4474,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},744,"218365","Pero el 98% son éticos, son 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masa.",2836.22,2837.48,{"idx":4500,"utterance_id":4501,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4502,"start_s":4503,"end_s":4504,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},749,"218370","Necesitamos abrazar a los agricultores.",2838.02,2840.06,{"idx":4506,"utterance_id":4507,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4508,"start_s":4509,"end_s":4510,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},750,"218371","Nunca han sido tan vilipendiados.",2841.7,2844.12,{"idx":4512,"utterance_id":4513,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4514,"start_s":4515,"end_s":4516,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},751,"218372","No es solo por la política del gobierno.",2844.72,2846.5,{"idx":4518,"utterance_id":4519,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4520,"start_s":4521,"end_s":4522,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},752,"218373","La política del Banco Central está 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¿por qué tenemos que ser un país que asfixia la producción intentando controlar la inflación?",2946.84,2956.32,{"idx":4708,"utterance_id":4709,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4710,"start_s":4711,"end_s":4712,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},784,"218405","Sí, controlar la inflación es importante, pero asfixiar la producción... El comercio, la agricultura, la industria, con esas tasas de interés astronómicas, no estoy de acuerdo con eso.",2957,2965.78,{"idx":4714,"utterance_id":4715,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4716,"start_s":4717,"end_s":4718,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},785,"218406","Sinceramente, hablo ahora como empresario, como gestor de empresa: no estoy de acuerdo con eso.",2966.18,2970.68,{"idx":4720,"utterance_id":4721,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4722,"start_s":4723,"end_s":4724,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},786,"218407","Eso está mal.",2971.02,2971.82,{"idx":4726,"utterance_id":4727,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4728,"start_s":4729,"end_s":4730,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},787,"218408","Y se ha convertido en una trampa.",2972.16,2973.06,{"idx":44,"utterance_id":4732,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4733,"start_s":4734,"end_s":4735,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},"218409","¿Cómo vas a reducir ahora ese 14,75 de forma 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¿entiende?",2997.16,3003.14,{"idx":4791,"utterance_id":4792,"speaker_name":96,"text":4793,"start_s":4794,"end_s":4795,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},798,"218419","¿Puede citar alguno?",3003.36,3004,{"idx":4797,"utterance_id":4798,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4799,"start_s":4800,"end_s":4801,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},799,"218420","Puedo citar, por ejemplo, que me gustan varios economistas.",3004.58,3006.88,{"idx":4803,"utterance_id":4804,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4805,"start_s":4806,"end_s":4807,"word_count":193,"indexable":74},800,"218421","Me gustan, por ejemplo, Ilan Goldfahn, que ya fue presidente del Banco Central, una persona muy inteligente, Mansueto Almeida.",3006.92,3014.86,{"idx":1468,"utterance_id":4809,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4810,"start_s":4811,"end_s":4812,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},"218422","Me gusta Marcos 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tenemos mentes brillantes.",3041.86,3046.22,{"idx":4898,"utterance_id":4899,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4900,"start_s":4901,"end_s":4902,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},816,"218437","¿Qué tenemos que hacer?",3048.02,3048.82,{"idx":4904,"utterance_id":4905,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4906,"start_s":4907,"end_s":4908,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},817,"218438","Es hacer una política de Estado y no una política de partido.",3049.32,3052.94,{"idx":4910,"utterance_id":4911,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4912,"start_s":4913,"end_s":4914,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},818,"218439","Tiene que ser una política para nuestros hijos, para su hijo, para mis hijos, mis hijas, para mis nietos, para más de 50 millones de niños y adolescentes.",3054.06,3064.18,{"idx":4916,"utterance_id":4917,"speaker_name":69,"text":4918,"start_s":4919,"end_s":4920,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},819,"218440","Y vamos a hablar de facciones 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organizado contra el Estado desorganizado.",3104.44,3106.82,{"idx":1531,"utterance_id":4976,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4977,"start_s":4978,"end_s":4979,"word_count":233,"indexable":74},"218450","Entonces tendríamos que establecer una coordinación muy estrecha con la Policía Federal; he estado hablando con la Policía Militar y también con la Policía Civil.",3107.22,3118.28,{"idx":4981,"utterance_id":4982,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4983,"start_s":4984,"end_s":4985,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},830,"218451","Más tecnología, más entrenamiento, mejores salarios para estos policías.",3118.88,3123.3,{"idx":4987,"utterance_id":4988,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":4989,"start_s":4990,"end_s":4991,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},831,"218452","Muchos de ellos ponen la vida en riesgo con salarios 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un delito debe ser responsable, pero no se puede comprometer la imagen del 98% de los policías.",3150.14,3156.46,{"idx":5017,"utterance_id":5018,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":5019,"start_s":5020,"end_s":5021,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},836,"218457","Eso es un problema serio.",3157.5,3158.98,{"idx":5023,"utterance_id":5024,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":5025,"start_s":5026,"end_s":5027,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},837,"218458","Hay que apoyarlos, incluso financieramente.",3159.34,3161.46,{"idx":5029,"utterance_id":5030,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":5031,"start_s":5032,"end_s":5033,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},838,"218459","Tenemos que fortalecer nuestras policías.",3162.04,3163.5,{"idx":5035,"utterance_id":5036,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":5037,"start_s":5038,"end_s":5039,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},839,"218460","Tiene que haber más entrenamiento, más tecnología, incluso inteligencia 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la Amazonía que dentro de un tiempo todo el mundo va a querer.",3330.78,3336.66,{"idx":5285,"utterance_id":5286,"speaker_name":69,"text":5287,"start_s":5288,"end_s":5289,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},881,"218502","Tierras raras.",3338.18,3339.06,{"idx":5291,"utterance_id":5292,"speaker_name":69,"text":5293,"start_s":5294,"end_s":5295,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},882,"218503","Energía renovable.",3340.36,3341.66,{"idx":5297,"utterance_id":5298,"speaker_name":69,"text":5299,"start_s":5300,"end_s":5301,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},883,"218504","Estamos sentados.",3341.74,3344.34,{"idx":5303,"utterance_id":5304,"speaker_name":69,"text":5305,"start_s":5306,"end_s":5307,"word_count":170,"indexable":74},884,"218505","Podemos negociar con quien queramos, pero tiene que haber ventajas para nosotros.",3345.62,3350.46,{"idx":1691,"utterance_id":5309,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":5310,"start_s":5311,"end_s":5312,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},"218506","Tiene que haber 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Y que es una minoría que es...",4080.42,4082.9,{"idx":6906,"utterance_id":6907,"speaker_name":96,"text":6908,"start_s":6909,"end_s":6910,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1155,"218776","¿Cómo hacemos para estar bien?",4082.98,4083.72,{"idx":6912,"utterance_id":6913,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":6914,"start_s":6915,"end_s":6916,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1156,"218777","¿Una minoría que es qué?",4083.74,4084.74,{"idx":6918,"utterance_id":6919,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":6920,"start_s":6921,"end_s":6922,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1157,"218778","Que es ruidosa, ¿no es así?",4085.26,4086.94,{"idx":6924,"utterance_id":6925,"speaker_name":69,"text":6926,"start_s":6927,"end_s":6928,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},1158,"218779","Sí, pero estoy hablando de esa gente que no tiene voz, esa gente realmente que está pasando necesidad, que anda en la calle y la gente sin esperanza 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deudas.",4168.6,4173.96,{"idx":7049,"utterance_id":7050,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7051,"start_s":7052,"end_s":7053,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1179,"218800","No pagan intereses a ese nivel.",4174.36,4176.02,{"idx":7055,"utterance_id":7056,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7057,"start_s":7058,"end_s":7059,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1180,"218801","No lo soportan.",4176.74,4177.24,{"idx":7061,"utterance_id":7062,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7063,"start_s":7064,"end_s":7065,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1181,"218802","Esa mayoría silenciosa tiene que ser abrazada de manera real.",4178.46,4183.22,{"idx":7067,"utterance_id":7068,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7069,"start_s":7070,"end_s":7071,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1182,"218803","¿Por qué te colocas como 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sin querer.",4261.68,4271.52,{"idx":7169,"utterance_id":7170,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7171,"start_s":7172,"end_s":7173,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1199,"218820","Pero es una persona inteligente, a la que respeto mucho, ¿entiendes?",4272.24,4275.4,{"idx":7175,"utterance_id":7176,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7177,"start_s":7178,"end_s":7179,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},1200,"218821","A Renan Santos no lo conozco mucho, pero parece un joven con gran empuje, que quiere contribuir a la sociedad.",4276.24,4282.54,{"idx":7181,"utterance_id":7182,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7183,"start_s":7184,"end_s":7185,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1201,"218822","Renan.",4284.44,4285.92,{"idx":7187,"utterance_id":7188,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7189,"start_s":7190,"end_s":7191,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1202,"218823","No lo conozco mucho, ¿eh?",4286.04,4287.3,{"idx":7193,"utterance_id":7194,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7195,"start_s":7196,"end_s":7197,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1203,"218824","Pero es un joven, tiene buenas intenciones.",4287.92,4290.58,{"idx":7199,"utterance_id":7200,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7201,"start_s":7202,"end_s":7203,"word_count":233,"indexable":74},1204,"218825","Vi en internet que tiene algunos problemas jurídicos ahí, cuyo fundamento no sé, pero es un joven con empuje que quiere contribuir con Brasil.",4291.3,4299.12,{"idx":7205,"utterance_id":7206,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7207,"start_s":7208,"end_s":7209,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1205,"218826","Y no lo conozco mucho, honestamente.",4300.08,4301.84,{"idx":7211,"utterance_id":7212,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7213,"start_s":7214,"end_s":7215,"word_count":193,"indexable":74},1206,"218827","Pero vi más a Kim Kataguri, que es un socio de él, que también es un joven inteligente, preocupado por Brasil.",4301.88,4308.42,{"idx":7217,"utterance_id":7218,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7219,"start_s":7220,"end_s":7221,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1207,"218828","Pero ellos también alimentan la polarización.",4309.04,4312.62,{"idx":7223,"utterance_id":7224,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7225,"start_s":7226,"end_s":7227,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1208,"218829","Y quiero ser la voz que... que escucha a las personas cansadas.",4312.86,4316.46,{"idx":7229,"utterance_id":7230,"speaker_name":96,"text":7231,"start_s":7232,"end_s":7233,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1209,"218830","Ellos son del grupo de 'prender o matar', ¿has visto eso?",4316.5,4318.58,{"idx":7235,"utterance_id":7236,"speaker_name":96,"text":7237,"start_s":7238,"end_s":7239,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1210,"218831","Sí. ¿Y qué?",4318.84,4319.76,{"idx":7241,"utterance_id":7242,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7243,"start_s":7244,"end_s":7245,"word_count":158,"indexable":74},1211,"218832","Entonces, tenemos que tener una seguridad fuerte, segura, pero también inteligente, con mucha tecnología.",4320.56,4330.92,{"idx":7247,"utterance_id":7248,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7249,"start_s":7250,"end_s":7251,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},1212,"218833","Reitero, he dado entrenamiento varias veces a la Policía Federal, la Policía Militar; sé, conozco a esos líderes y son muy inteligentes, deben ser acogidos, valorizados, reitero, con mejores salarios.",4331.02,4343.88,{"idx":7253,"utterance_id":7254,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7255,"start_s":7256,"end_s":7257,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1213,"218834","Entonces, la seguridad se logra cuando también escuchas a los agentes de seguridad.",4344.54,4350.06,{"idx":7259,"utterance_id":7260,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7261,"start_s":7262,"end_s":7263,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1214,"218835","Bueno, ¿quién más por ahí?",4350.8,4352.94,{"idx":7265,"utterance_id":7266,"speaker_name":96,"text":7267,"start_s":7268,"end_s":7269,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1215,"218836","Vamos, siguiente.",4353.2,4354.04,{"idx":7271,"utterance_id":7272,"speaker_name":96,"text":7273,"start_s":7274,"end_s":7275,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1216,"218837","Zema.",4356.12,4356.36,{"idx":7277,"utterance_id":7278,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7279,"start_s":7280,"end_s":7281,"word_count":239,"indexable":74},1217,"218838","Zema tiene experiencia en gestión de empresas, lo cual es loable, y también la intención de contribuir con Brasil, lo cual es respetable, sin duda alguna.",4358.08,4367.9,{"idx":7283,"utterance_id":7284,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7285,"start_s":7286,"end_s":7287,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1218,"218839","Pero, aunque no lo quiera, alimenta esa división del país.",4369.6,4373.76,{"idx":7289,"utterance_id":7290,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7291,"start_s":7292,"end_s":7293,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1219,"218840","Y tenemos que ser el país de la suma y no de la división.",4374.34,4376.82,{"idx":7295,"utterance_id":7296,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7297,"start_s":7298,"end_s":7299,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1220,"218841","De lo contrario, ese avión no va a lograr hacer un aterrizaje satisfactorio.",4376.92,4384.42,{"idx":7301,"utterance_id":7302,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7303,"start_s":7304,"end_s":7305,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1221,"218842","Puede ser el caos.",4384.46,4385.18,{"idx":7307,"utterance_id":7308,"speaker_name":69,"text":7309,"start_s":7310,"end_s":7311,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1222,"218843","Pues sí. Siguiente.",4385.44,4386.64,{"idx":7313,"utterance_id":7314,"speaker_name":69,"text":7315,"start_s":7316,"end_s":7317,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1223,"218844","Vamos, editor.",4387.44,4388.2,{"idx":7319,"utterance_id":7320,"speaker_name":69,"text":7321,"start_s":7322,"end_s":7323,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1224,"218845","Flávio.",4389.86,4390.28,{"idx":7325,"utterance_id":7326,"speaker_name":69,"text":7327,"start_s":7328,"end_s":7329,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1225,"218846","Flávio Bolsonaro.",4391.26,4392.36,{"idx":7331,"utterance_id":7332,"speaker_name":69,"text":7333,"start_s":7334,"end_s":7335,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1226,"218847","Tenemos esa duda de si él continúa o no.",4393.44,4396.66,{"idx":7337,"utterance_id":7338,"speaker_name":69,"text":7339,"start_s":7340,"end_s":7341,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1227,"218848","¿Crees que está debilitado?",4396.98,4398.16,{"idx":7343,"utterance_id":7344,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7345,"start_s":7346,"end_s":7347,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1228,"218849","Entonces, Flávio Bolsonaro.",4398.96,4400.1,{"idx":7349,"utterance_id":7350,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7351,"start_s":7352,"end_s":7353,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1229,"218850","Yo tampoco conozco personalmente a Flávio.",4400.46,4403.44,{"idx":7355,"utterance_id":7356,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7357,"start_s":7358,"end_s":7359,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},1230,"218851","Parece moderado en varias cosas, tiene intención de cambiar el país, pero fue envuelto por graves problemas que tendrá que explicar.",4403.98,4411.8,{"idx":7361,"utterance_id":7362,"speaker_name":96,"text":7363,"start_s":7364,"end_s":7365,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1231,"218852","Borcaro.",4412.04,4412.52,{"idx":7367,"utterance_id":7368,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7363,"start_s":7369,"end_s":7370,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1232,"218853",4412.84,4413.4,{"idx":7372,"utterance_id":7373,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7374,"start_s":7375,"end_s":7376,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1233,"218854","No quiero hacer comentarios sobre ese tema.",4414.06,4417.72,{"idx":7378,"utterance_id":7379,"speaker_name":96,"text":7380,"start_s":7381,"end_s":7382,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1234,"218855","¿Anduviste en el jet de Borcaro?",4417.74,4419.32,{"idx":7384,"utterance_id":7385,"speaker_name":96,"text":7386,"start_s":7387,"end_s":7388,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1235,"218856","¿Fuiste a alguna fiesta?",4419.74,4421.1,{"idx":7390,"utterance_id":7391,"speaker_name":96,"text":7392,"start_s":7393,"end_s":7394,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1236,"218857","Puede ser alguno.",4421.12,4421.74,{"idx":7396,"utterance_id":7397,"speaker_name":96,"text":7398,"start_s":7399,"end_s":7400,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1237,"218858","¿Fuiste, no?",4421.86,4423,{"idx":7402,"utterance_id":7403,"speaker_name":69,"text":7404,"start_s":7405,"end_s":7406,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1238,"218859","Ese es el problema.",4424.22,4425.48,{"idx":7408,"utterance_id":7409,"speaker_name":69,"text":7410,"start_s":7411,"end_s":7412,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1239,"218860","Qué tan irrelevante soy para no haber ido en el jet.",4425.64,4429.78,{"idx":7414,"utterance_id":7415,"speaker_name":69,"text":7416,"start_s":7417,"end_s":7418,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1240,"218861","No me invitaron a ninguna fiesta.",4429.82,4431.08,{"idx":7420,"utterance_id":7421,"speaker_name":69,"text":7422,"start_s":7423,"end_s":7424,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1241,"218862","Me hubiera gustado, pero ni siquiera lo sé.",4431.42,4432.74,{"idx":7426,"utterance_id":7427,"speaker_name":69,"text":7428,"start_s":7429,"end_s":7430,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1242,"218863","¿Te invitaron a algo?",4433.28,4434.54,{"idx":7432,"utterance_id":7433,"speaker_name":96,"text":7434,"start_s":7435,"end_s":7436,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1243,"218864","Pero no querían invitarme.",4435.22,4437.34,{"idx":7438,"utterance_id":7439,"speaker_name":96,"text":7440,"start_s":7441,"end_s":7442,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1244,"218865","Iba a rechazar.",4438.08,4439.08,{"idx":7444,"utterance_id":7445,"speaker_name":96,"text":7446,"start_s":7447,"end_s":7448,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1245,"218866","Tenemos una excusa.",4439.64,4440.74,{"idx":7450,"utterance_id":7451,"speaker_name":96,"text":7452,"start_s":7453,"end_s":7454,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1246,"218867","Siempre estamos encerrados en ese sótano.",4441.1,4442.92,{"idx":7456,"utterance_id":7457,"speaker_name":69,"text":7458,"start_s":7459,"end_s":7460,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1247,"218868","También está esa.",4443.46,4444.22,{"idx":7462,"utterance_id":7463,"speaker_name":69,"text":7464,"start_s":7465,"end_s":7466,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1248,"218869","La invitación no llega aquí.",4444.26,4445.22,{"idx":7468,"utterance_id":7469,"speaker_name":69,"text":7470,"start_s":7471,"end_s":7472,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1249,"218870","Pero no va a aparecer nada.",4446.02,4448.2,{"idx":7474,"utterance_id":7475,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7476,"start_s":7477,"end_s":7478,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1250,"218871","Sabes que soy muy serio, hombre.",4448.32,4451.14,{"idx":7480,"utterance_id":7481,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7482,"start_s":7483,"end_s":7484,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1251,"218872","Sabes que había una persona que iba a tener un jet.",4451.28,4454.18,{"idx":7486,"utterance_id":7487,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7488,"start_s":7489,"end_s":7490,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1252,"218873","Ofreció un jet para poder hacer un viaje.",4454.7,4456.74,{"idx":7492,"utterance_id":7493,"speaker_name":96,"text":7494,"start_s":7495,"end_s":7496,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1253,"218874","¿Ofreció?",4457.28,4457.76,{"idx":7498,"utterance_id":7499,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7500,"start_s":7501,"end_s":7502,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1254,"218875","No, no él, mucha gente.",4458.78,4460.12,{"idx":7504,"utterance_id":7505,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7506,"start_s":7507,"end_s":7508,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1255,"218876","Y nosotros investigamos mucho los procesos que las personas...",4460.62,4463.58,{"idx":7510,"utterance_id":7511,"speaker_name":96,"text":7512,"start_s":7513,"end_s":7514,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1256,"218877","Claro, para ver, ¿no?",4463.6,4464.36,{"idx":7516,"utterance_id":7517,"speaker_name":96,"text":7518,"start_s":7519,"end_s":7520,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1257,"218878","La famosa capivara.",4464.4,4466.24,{"idx":7522,"utterance_id":7523,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7524,"start_s":7525,"end_s":7526,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1258,"218879","No, la famosa capivara.",4466.3,4468,{"idx":7528,"utterance_id":7529,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7530,"start_s":7531,"end_s":7532,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1259,"218880","Creemos que no debería ser.",4468.44,4469.72,{"idx":7534,"utterance_id":7535,"speaker_name":96,"text":7536,"start_s":7537,"end_s":7538,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1260,"218881","No todo el mundo hace eso.",4470.42,4471.24,{"idx":7540,"utterance_id":7541,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7542,"start_s":7543,"end_s":7544,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1261,"218882","Aunque sea una persona seria, digamos, responsable.",4471.32,4473.64,{"idx":7546,"utterance_id":7547,"speaker_name":96,"text":7548,"start_s":7549,"end_s":7550,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1262,"218883","Mejor no arriesgar.",4473.66,4474.12,{"idx":7552,"utterance_id":7553,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7554,"start_s":7555,"end_s":7556,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1263,"218884","Pero por el pasado.",4474.14,4474.9,{"idx":7558,"utterance_id":7559,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7560,"start_s":7561,"end_s":7562,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1264,"218885","Porque tenemos la responsabilidad de construir un Brasil ético, sin corrupción.",4475.26,4480.22,{"idx":7564,"utterance_id":7565,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7566,"start_s":7567,"end_s":7568,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1265,"218886","Además, tengo incluso un proyecto para... cohibir la corrupción.",4481.06,4485.38,{"idx":7570,"utterance_id":7571,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7572,"start_s":7573,"end_s":7574,"word_count":278,"indexable":74},1266,"218887","Mil grupos CEA, Sociedade de Estado de Olho, mil comités en las más diversas ciudades, formados por miembros del Ministerio Público, líderes de la industria, del comercio, líderes sociales, religiosos, para analizar los procesos y también analizar las licitaciones.",4486.18,4507.8,{"idx":7576,"utterance_id":7577,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7578,"start_s":7579,"end_s":7580,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1267,"218888","Tenemos que cohibir la corrupción.",4508.18,4509.54,{"idx":7582,"utterance_id":7583,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7584,"start_s":7585,"end_s":7586,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1268,"218889","Brasil, de vez en cuando...",4509.98,4511.14,{"idx":7588,"utterance_id":7589,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7590,"start_s":7591,"end_s":7592,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1269,"218890","es... un escándalo de corrupción.",4511.4,4513.28,{"idx":7594,"utterance_id":7595,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7596,"start_s":7597,"end_s":7598,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},1270,"218891","Tenemos que llegar antes, prevenir que el corrupto entre en escena, porque tiene mucho dinero y no va a la cárcel.",4514.5,4522.48,{"idx":7600,"utterance_id":7601,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7602,"start_s":7603,"end_s":7604,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1271,"218892","Porque tiene, o al menos las penas se atenúan, porque tiene muchos recursos.",4523.16,4528,{"idx":2325,"utterance_id":7606,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7607,"start_s":7608,"end_s":7609,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},"218893","La corrupción es un cáncer en el país.",4528.42,4530.04,{"idx":7611,"utterance_id":7612,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7613,"start_s":7614,"end_s":7615,"word_count":158,"indexable":74},1273,"218894","Esto afecta completamente el sueño del brasileño, el dinero del brasileño, los recursos del brasileño.",4530.96,4535.62,{"idx":7617,"utterance_id":7618,"speaker_name":69,"text":7619,"start_s":7620,"end_s":7621,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1274,"218895","Entonces, Flávio, ¿crees que esto... llegará hasta la segunda vuelta?",4536.1,4539.08,{"idx":7623,"utterance_id":7624,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7625,"start_s":7626,"end_s":7627,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1275,"218896","Flávio tendrá que explicarse.",4539.3,4540.72,{"idx":7629,"utterance_id":7630,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7631,"start_s":7632,"end_s":7633,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1276,"218897","Si él logra explicarse de manera adecuada e inteligente, debería pasar.",4541,4544.94,{"idx":7635,"utterance_id":7636,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7637,"start_s":7638,"end_s":7639,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1277,"218898","Si no se explica, quizás su popularidad suba o baje.",4545.52,4549.38,{"idx":7641,"utterance_id":7642,"speaker_name":96,"text":7643,"start_s":7644,"end_s":7645,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1278,"218899","¿Ya cayó, no?",4549.46,4550.02,{"idx":7647,"utterance_id":7648,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7649,"start_s":7650,"end_s":7651,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1279,"218900","Ya cayó, ya cayó.",4550.3,4551.32,{"idx":7653,"utterance_id":7654,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7655,"start_s":7656,"end_s":7657,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1280,"218901","Pero él tendrá que explicarse.",4551.54,4552.8,{"idx":7659,"utterance_id":7660,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7661,"start_s":7662,"end_s":7663,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},1281,"218902","No quiero ser alguien que se sube sobre el cadáver de los demás para conseguir popularidad.",4553.56,4559.76,{"idx":7665,"utterance_id":7666,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7667,"start_s":7668,"end_s":7669,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1282,"218903","Para que hagamos una política de Estado elegante, noble, un Brasil que importe.",4560.24,4567.14,{"idx":7671,"utterance_id":7672,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7673,"start_s":7674,"end_s":7675,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1283,"218904","que se centre en lo que es importante; tenemos que hablar de proyectos.",4567.56,4572.94,{"idx":7677,"utterance_id":7678,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7679,"start_s":7680,"end_s":7681,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1284,"218905","Quiero conquistar a las personas por la relevancia, por la inteligencia.",4573.06,4577.16,{"idx":7683,"utterance_id":7684,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7685,"start_s":7686,"end_s":7687,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1285,"218906","Brasil tiene solución.",4577.26,4578.64,{"idx":7689,"utterance_id":7690,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7691,"start_s":7692,"end_s":7693,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1286,"218907","Brasil puede terminar con esta polarización insana.",4579.18,4582.36,{"idx":7695,"utterance_id":7696,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7697,"start_s":7698,"end_s":7699,"word_count":261,"indexable":74},1287,"218908","Las familias enfermas, separadas, pueden ahora, por primera vez, tener la libertad de expresar sus ideas, porque habrá un profesor de la nación que se colocará como empleado de la sociedad, contratado por el voto.",4582.6,4595.4,{"idx":7701,"utterance_id":7702,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7703,"start_s":7704,"end_s":7705,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1288,"218909","con placer determinado para ser despedida.",4595.68,4597.52,{"idx":7707,"utterance_id":7708,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7709,"start_s":7710,"end_s":7711,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1289,"218910","No quiero perpetuarme en el poder.",4598.1,4600.3,{"idx":7713,"utterance_id":7714,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7715,"start_s":7716,"end_s":7717,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1290,"218911","Reitero, el poder infecta la salud mental.",4600.4,4602.8,{"idx":7719,"utterance_id":7720,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7721,"start_s":7722,"end_s":7723,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1291,"218912","Si no se trabaja, empeora al ser humano.",4603.14,4605.8,{"idx":7725,"utterance_id":7726,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7727,"start_s":7728,"end_s":7729,"word_count":350,"indexable":74},1292,"218913","Entonces, alguien que tiene conciencia, quizá como pocos políticos en el mundo, porque yo estudio e investigo esto, y quizá porque no necesite del poder, no dependa del poder, yo, más que nunca, puedo convocar a líderes de todas las áreas para hacer un Brasil completamente distinto, Vilela.",4605.82,4624.3,{"idx":7731,"utterance_id":7732,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7733,"start_s":7734,"end_s":7735,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1293,"218914","Eso es lo que me mueve.",4625.26,4626.1,{"idx":7737,"utterance_id":7738,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7739,"start_s":7740,"end_s":7741,"word_count":239,"indexable":74},1294,"218915","Brasil, por causa de su hijo, Noah, y de millones y millones de niños, y decenas de millones de adolescentes, por causa de la mujer, por causa del trabajador, ¿entendió?",4626.44,4636.66,{"idx":7743,"utterance_id":7744,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7745,"start_s":7746,"end_s":7747,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1295,"218916","Honestamente, eso no es retórica.",4637.26,4639.42,{"idx":7749,"utterance_id":7750,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7751,"start_s":7752,"end_s":7753,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1296,"218917","No sé hasta dónde llegaré.",4640.28,4641.52,{"idx":7755,"utterance_id":7756,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7757,"start_s":7758,"end_s":7759,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1297,"218918","Espero, por esta burbuja, estar en la segunda vuelta.",4641.64,4644.34,{"idx":7761,"utterance_id":7762,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7763,"start_s":7764,"end_s":7765,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1298,"218919","No sé hasta dónde llegaremos.",4644.36,4645.64,{"idx":7767,"utterance_id":7768,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7769,"start_s":7770,"end_s":7771,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1299,"218920","Pero digo una cosa: proponemos algo completamente diferente para el país.",4646.26,4650.78,{"idx":7773,"utterance_id":7774,"speaker_name":69,"text":7775,"start_s":7776,"end_s":7777,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},1300,"218921","Porque hablan completamente distinto, vamos hacia alguien que está en su tercer mandato, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.",4652.56,4660.98,{"idx":7779,"utterance_id":7780,"speaker_name":69,"text":7781,"start_s":7782,"end_s":7783,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1301,"218922","¿Por qué no elegirlo a él para continuar?",4661.4,4663.96,{"idx":7785,"utterance_id":7786,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7787,"start_s":7788,"end_s":7789,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1302,"218923","Bueno, Lula ya está en su tercer mandato.",4664.28,4666.64,{"idx":7791,"utterance_id":7792,"speaker_name":96,"text":7793,"start_s":7794,"end_s":7795,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1303,"218924","Quiere ir por el cuarto.",4667.66,4668.8,{"idx":7797,"utterance_id":7798,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7799,"start_s":7800,"end_s":7801,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1304,"218925","Ir al cuarto mandato.",4669.2,4670.24,{"idx":7803,"utterance_id":7804,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7805,"start_s":7806,"end_s":7807,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1305,"218926","Si yo pudiera orientarlo hacia Lula, usted ya...",4670.3,4672.72,{"idx":7809,"utterance_id":7810,"speaker_name":96,"text":7811,"start_s":7812,"end_s":7813,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1306,"218927","Si usted pudiera tener una conversación a solas con él.",4673.6,4677.5,{"idx":7815,"utterance_id":7816,"speaker_name":96,"text":7817,"start_s":7818,"end_s":7819,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1307,"218928","¿Qué le diría?",4677.52,4678.38,{"idx":7821,"utterance_id":7822,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7823,"start_s":7824,"end_s":7825,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1308,"218929","¿Sabe lo que yo le aconsejaría?",4678.42,4679.54,{"idx":7827,"utterance_id":7828,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7829,"start_s":7830,"end_s":7831,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},1309,"218930","Sabe que ayudé a varias personas, inclusive ayudé a Alckmin en un momento difícil de su vida cuando perdió a su hijo.",4679.56,4685.28,{"idx":7833,"utterance_id":7834,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7835,"start_s":7836,"end_s":7837,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1310,"218931","Tengo amigos de todos los lugares, ¿está bien?",4685.86,4687.62,{"idx":7839,"utterance_id":7840,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7841,"start_s":7842,"end_s":7843,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1311,"218932","De ambos lados.",4688,4688.56,{"idx":7845,"utterance_id":7846,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7841,"start_s":7847,"end_s":7848,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1312,"218933",4688.58,4689.36,{"idx":7850,"utterance_id":7851,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7852,"start_s":7853,"end_s":7854,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},1313,"218934","Tengo varios amigos de la derecha —líderes y más de la derecha— y también líderes que están en la izquierda.",4689.54,4694.92,{"idx":7856,"utterance_id":7857,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7858,"start_s":7859,"end_s":7860,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},1314,"218935","Le dije: 'Lula, la vida es bella y breve como gotas de ovalha, que por un instante aparecen y pronto se disipan a los primeros rayos solares del tiempo.'",4695.54,4704.08,{"idx":7862,"utterance_id":7863,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7864,"start_s":7865,"end_s":7866,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1315,"218936","Salimos del útero... materno, sin nada, llorando, dependiendo de los demás.",4705.34,4711.94,{"idx":7868,"utterance_id":7869,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7870,"start_s":7871,"end_s":7872,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1316,"218937","Salimos del útero materno hacia el útero social.",4712.06,4714.02,{"idx":7874,"utterance_id":7875,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7876,"start_s":7877,"end_s":7878,"word_count":170,"indexable":74},1317,"218938","Y vamos a salir del útero social hacia el útero de la tierra, sin nada, y dependiendo de los demás.",4714.54,4720.96,{"idx":7880,"utterance_id":7881,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7882,"start_s":7883,"end_s":7884,"word_count":188,"indexable":74},1318,"218939","Y como el maestro de maestros nos enseñó, una persona grande se hace pequeña para volver grandes a los pequeños.",4721.52,4728.6,{"idx":7886,"utterance_id":7887,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7888,"start_s":7889,"end_s":7890,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1319,"218940","Como Jesús, fui uno de los mayores ateos que pisó esta tierra.",4729.6,4732.58,{"idx":7892,"utterance_id":7893,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7894,"start_s":7895,"end_s":7896,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1320,"218941","No sé si usted lo sabía.",4733.2,4734.68,{"idx":7898,"utterance_id":7899,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7900,"start_s":7901,"end_s":7902,"word_count":188,"indexable":74},1321,"218942","Entonces... Tenemos que percibir que la brevedad de la vida debería invitarnos a retirarnos, porque es muy breve.",4735.26,4743.18,{"idx":7904,"utterance_id":7905,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7906,"start_s":7907,"end_s":7908,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1322,"218943","Y el tiempo emocional hoy pasa mucho más rápido que el tiempo físico.",4743.82,4749.7,{"idx":7910,"utterance_id":7911,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7912,"start_s":7913,"end_s":7914,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1323,"218944","Un mes pasa como una semana; un año pasa como un mes.",4750.72,4754.42,{"idx":7916,"utterance_id":7917,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7918,"start_s":7919,"end_s":7920,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1324,"218945","¿No parece que usted durmió y despertó con esta edad?",4755.38,4757.34,{"idx":7922,"utterance_id":7923,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7924,"start_s":7925,"end_s":7926,"word_count":158,"indexable":74},1325,"218946","He llevado a la gente aquí a más de 90 países en los que he sido publicado.",4758.28,4762.16,{"idx":7928,"utterance_id":7929,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7930,"start_s":7931,"end_s":7932,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1326,"218947","La vida es muy breve, está pasando a una velocidad asombrosa.",4762.72,4766.52,{"idx":7934,"utterance_id":7935,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7936,"start_s":7937,"end_s":7938,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1327,"218948","Entonces haga de las pequeñas cosas un espectáculo para los ojos.",4766.86,4769.64,{"idx":7940,"utterance_id":7941,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7942,"start_s":7943,"end_s":7944,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1328,"218949","Abrace más, juzgue menos.",4769.96,4771.46,{"idx":7946,"utterance_id":7947,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7948,"start_s":7949,"end_s":7950,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1329,"218950","Sea un buscador de oro, como dije.",4771.9,4773.52,{"idx":7952,"utterance_id":7953,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7954,"start_s":7955,"end_s":7956,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1330,"218951","Pregunta dónde me equivoqué y no supe.",4773.84,4775.24,{"idx":7958,"utterance_id":7959,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7960,"start_s":7961,"end_s":7962,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1331,"218952","para su esposa, para su marido.",4775.28,4777.16,{"idx":7964,"utterance_id":7965,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":1736,"start_s":7966,"end_s":7967,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1332,"218953",4777.2,4778.84,{"idx":7969,"utterance_id":7970,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7971,"start_s":7972,"end_s":7973,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1333,"218954","Cambie la era del señalamiento de fallos por la era de los elogios.",4779.18,4782.4,{"idx":7975,"utterance_id":7976,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7977,"start_s":7978,"end_s":7979,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1334,"218955","Elogie tres veces al día más de lo que criticamos.",4782.48,4786,{"idx":7981,"utterance_id":7982,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7983,"start_s":7984,"end_s":7985,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1335,"218956","Aprenda que la mente miente.",4786.58,4787.9,{"idx":7987,"utterance_id":7988,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7989,"start_s":7990,"end_s":7991,"word_count":188,"indexable":74},1336,"218957","Nadie puede traicionarnos, herirnos, más que la propia mente, cuando no la gobernamos, no la lideramos.",4788.18,4794.14,{"idx":7993,"utterance_id":7994,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":7995,"start_s":7996,"end_s":7997,"word_count":314,"indexable":74},1337,"218958","Entonces le diría a él: ¿no es tiempo de que toque su vida, sus proyectos, y haga de cada día un espectáculo único, dilate sus días, dilate el tiempo, ya que el tiempo emocional se está acortando?",4794.84,4808.86,{"idx":7999,"utterance_id":8000,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8001,"start_s":8002,"end_s":8003,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1338,"218959","Si se está acortando, tengo que tener mucho cuidado.",4809.3,4811.26,{"idx":8005,"utterance_id":8006,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8007,"start_s":8008,"end_s":8009,"word_count":193,"indexable":74},1339,"218960","Dentro de poco estaremos... en la soledad de una tumba, como dije, del útero social al útero de la tierra.",4811.28,4816.8,{"idx":8011,"utterance_id":8012,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8013,"start_s":8014,"end_s":8015,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},1340,"218961","Si la vida es tan breve, me aconseja hacer de ella un espectáculo imperdible.",4817.4,4822.08,{"idx":8017,"utterance_id":8018,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8019,"start_s":8020,"end_s":8021,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1341,"218962","De lo contrario, soy mi peor enemigo.",4822.2,4823.84,{"idx":8023,"utterance_id":8024,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8025,"start_s":8026,"end_s":8027,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1342,"218963","Vivo queriendo ser el más rico de un cementerio.",4824.54,4826.8,{"idx":8029,"utterance_id":8030,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8031,"start_s":8032,"end_s":8033,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1343,"218964","¿Cuántas personas no quieren ser el más rico de un cementerio?",4827.18,4829.38,{"idx":8035,"utterance_id":8036,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8037,"start_s":8038,"end_s":8039,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},1344,"218965","¿Cuántas personas no quieren ser el profesional más perfecto en la cama de un hospital?",4829.76,4833.38,{"idx":8041,"utterance_id":8042,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8043,"start_s":8044,"end_s":8045,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1345,"218966","Olvidan que son meros mortales.",4833.76,4836.02,{"idx":8047,"utterance_id":8048,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8049,"start_s":8050,"end_s":8051,"word_count":188,"indexable":74},1346,"218967","Nuestra fragilidad debería recomendarnos... vivir una vida más simple, más humilde y retirarnos de la escena cuando sea necesario.",4837.16,4845.34,{"idx":8053,"utterance_id":8054,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8055,"start_s":8056,"end_s":8057,"word_count":193,"indexable":74},1347,"218968","Entonces, yo le aconsejaría, no como opositor, no como competidor, sino como un ser humano ayudando a otro ser humano.",4845.36,4854.96,{"idx":8059,"utterance_id":8060,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8061,"start_s":8062,"end_s":8063,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},1348,"218969","Si ella es tan breve, tengo que hacer de ella una vida que valga la pena ser vivida.",4856.14,4861.02,{"idx":8065,"utterance_id":8066,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8067,"start_s":8068,"end_s":8069,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1349,"218970","No sé si él me escucharía.",4862.02,4863.16,{"idx":8071,"utterance_id":8072,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8073,"start_s":8074,"end_s":8075,"word_count":278,"indexable":74},1350,"218971","No quiero colocar... Mire, en realidad, no quiero... No soy como alguien que quiere terminar con esta polarización, que es alguien que quiere ser la voz de las personas invisibles, cansadas y silenciadas.",4864.3,4880.5,{"idx":8077,"utterance_id":8078,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8079,"start_s":8080,"end_s":8081,"word_count":158,"indexable":74},1351,"218972","Mi objetivo no es ser una amenaza para nadie; es mostrar a todos los competidores.",4881.02,4886.88,{"idx":8083,"utterance_id":8084,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8085,"start_s":8086,"end_s":8087,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},1352,"218973","Hay otra manera de hacer política, sin criticismo, sin ser agresivo, sin querer destruir a los demás, entendiendo que la belleza de la democracia está en la divergencia.",4887.24,4897.86,{"idx":8089,"utterance_id":8090,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8091,"start_s":8092,"end_s":8093,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1353,"218974","Porque la unanimidad de ideas solo existe en las dictaduras.",4898.32,4903.1,{"idx":8095,"utterance_id":8096,"speaker_name":96,"text":8097,"start_s":8098,"end_s":8099,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1354,"218975","Pues sí. Faltó Aldo, ¿no?",4903.38,4905.42,{"idx":8101,"utterance_id":8102,"speaker_name":96,"text":8103,"start_s":8104,"end_s":8105,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1355,"218976","Ya casi lo olvidábamos.",4905.64,4906.74,{"idx":8107,"utterance_id":8108,"speaker_name":96,"text":8109,"start_s":8110,"end_s":8111,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1356,"218977","Estamos haciendo como su partido, ¿no?",4906.8,4908.3,{"idx":8113,"utterance_id":8114,"speaker_name":96,"text":8115,"start_s":8116,"end_s":8117,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1357,"218978","Olvidándolo.",4908.36,4909.2,{"idx":8119,"utterance_id":8120,"speaker_name":96,"text":8121,"start_s":8122,"end_s":8123,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1358,"218979","Pongan a Aldo ahí, lo olvidamos.",4910.22,4911.94,{"idx":8125,"utterance_id":8126,"speaker_name":96,"text":8127,"start_s":8128,"end_s":8129,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1359,"218980","¿Y sobre él?",4912.8,4913.34,{"idx":8131,"utterance_id":8132,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8133,"start_s":8134,"end_s":8135,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1360,"218981","Bueno, Aldo es una persona muy inteligente.",4914.12,4915.86,{"idx":8137,"utterance_id":8138,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8139,"start_s":8140,"end_s":8141,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1361,"218982","¿Muy?",4915.98,4916.4,{"idx":8143,"utterance_id":8144,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8145,"start_s":8146,"end_s":8147,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1362,"218983","Muy inteligente, muy bien intencionada.",4916.68,4918.82,{"idx":8149,"utterance_id":8150,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8151,"start_s":8152,"end_s":8153,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1363,"218984","Está atravesando el caos ahora en el partido en el que 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si no, nunca serás el autor de tu propia historia.",5178.04,5185.04,{"idx":8652,"utterance_id":8653,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8654,"start_s":8655,"end_s":8656,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1447,"219068","Quiero estimular a las personas y decirles que es posible construir el futuro.",5185.74,5190.06,{"idx":33,"utterance_id":8658,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8659,"start_s":8660,"end_s":8661,"word_count":223,"indexable":74},"219069","El pasado es difícil, el pasado fue radicalizado, polarizado; transformó el presente en un ambiente ansioso, separatista, angustiante; pero vamos a usar el pasado para construir un futuro.",5190.08,5203.9,{"idx":8663,"utterance_id":8664,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8665,"start_s":8666,"end_s":8667,"word_count":188,"indexable":74},1449,"219070","Es decir, podemos escribir los capítulos más importantes de nuestra historia en los momentos en que el mundo se derrumba sobre nosotros.",5204.36,5211.5,{"idx":8669,"utterance_id":8670,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8671,"start_s":8672,"end_s":8673,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1450,"219071","Es decir, comprar comas.",5211.8,5213.64,{"idx":8675,"utterance_id":8676,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8677,"start_s":8678,"end_s":8679,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1451,"219072","Soy un vendedor de comas, no un punto final.",5214.06,5216.9,{"idx":8681,"utterance_id":8682,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8683,"start_s":8684,"end_s":8685,"word_count":193,"indexable":74},1452,"219073","Comas para que puedas escribir una bella historia, para que esa división, ese sectarismo, ese padecimiento, donde las personas se enfrentan...",5217.4,5229.1,{"idx":8687,"utterance_id":8688,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8689,"start_s":8690,"end_s":8691,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},1453,"219074","por proyectos personales, sea la obra del pasado, un futuro más generoso, más altruista.",5229.62,5234.96,{"idx":8693,"utterance_id":8694,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8695,"start_s":8696,"end_s":8697,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1454,"219075","¿Te imaginas si hablamos de noche sobre este tema?",5235.44,5237.78,{"idx":8699,"utterance_id":8700,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8701,"start_s":8702,"end_s":8703,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1455,"219076","Ve entrando, porque un verano no se hace con una golondrina.",5238.2,5240.8,{"idx":8705,"utterance_id":8706,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8707,"start_s":8708,"end_s":8709,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1456,"219077","Ninguna ventana solitaria, un archivo mental, cambia la personalidad.",5241.34,5244.8,{"idx":8711,"utterance_id":8712,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8713,"start_s":8714,"end_s":8715,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1457,"219078","De ahora en adelante, soy la persona más tranquila de São Paulo.",5244.88,5247.8,{"idx":8717,"utterance_id":8718,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8719,"start_s":8720,"end_s":8721,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1458,"219079","Es una ventana, es un archivo solitario.",5248.02,5249.68,{"idx":8723,"utterance_id":8724,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8725,"start_s":8726,"end_s":8727,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1459,"219080","Funciona, funciona hasta que Romulo no te perturbe, ¿estás de acuerdo conmigo?",5250.14,5254.66,{"idx":8729,"utterance_id":8730,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8731,"start_s":8732,"end_s":8733,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1460,"219081","Verdad.",5254.7,5255.1,{"idx":8735,"utterance_id":8736,"speaker_name":96,"text":8737,"start_s":8738,"end_s":8739,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1461,"219082","Lo que es imposible, ¿no?",5255.68,5256.58,{"idx":8741,"utterance_id":8742,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8743,"start_s":8744,"end_s":8745,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},1462,"219083","Lo que es imposible, lo es. Pero si todos los días plantas nuevos archivos mentales, ¿sabes qué pasa?",5256.62,5262.82,{"idx":8747,"utterance_id":8748,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8749,"start_s":8750,"end_s":8751,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1463,"219084","Vas formando un montón de indurinhos, plataforma de ventanas.",5263.62,5266.9,{"idx":8753,"utterance_id":8754,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8755,"start_s":8756,"end_s":8757,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1464,"219085","Nuevas sinapsis.",5267.2,5267.76,{"idx":8759,"utterance_id":8760,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8761,"start_s":8762,"end_s":8763,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1465,"219086","Exactamente, nuevas conexiones.",5267.8,5269.48,{"idx":8765,"utterance_id":8766,"speaker_name":96,"text":8767,"start_s":8768,"end_s":8769,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1466,"219087","Estoy aprendiendo contigo.",5269.98,5271.1,{"idx":8771,"utterance_id":8772,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8773,"start_s":8774,"end_s":8775,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1467,"219088","Tú que eres ansioso, te vas volviendo más tranquilo.",5273.32,5275.74,{"idx":8777,"utterance_id":8778,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8779,"start_s":8780,"end_s":8781,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1468,"219089","¿Y sabes algo agradable?",5275.82,5277.22,{"idx":28,"utterance_id":8783,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8784,"start_s":8785,"end_s":8786,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},"219090","Ves un encanto en los defectos de los demás.",5278.02,5279.62,{"idx":8788,"utterance_id":8789,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8790,"start_s":8791,"end_s":8792,"word_count":158,"indexable":74},1470,"219091","Tú miras, el marido mira a la esposa y dice, querida, eres admirablemente irritante.",5279.72,5285.02,{"idx":8794,"utterance_id":8795,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8796,"start_s":8797,"end_s":8798,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1471,"219092","Y ella lo mira y dice, mi amor, eres fascinantemente impulsivo.",5286.02,5290.4,{"idx":8800,"utterance_id":8801,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8802,"start_s":8803,"end_s":8804,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1472,"219093","Ha vivido una vida más ligera, menos ataques, más de buen humor y más inteligente.",5290.42,5296.14,{"idx":8806,"utterance_id":8807,"speaker_name":69,"text":8808,"start_s":8809,"end_s":8810,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1473,"219094","Odio amarte, puedes decir, odio amarte.",5296.16,5298.2,{"idx":8812,"utterance_id":8813,"speaker_name":69,"text":8814,"start_s":8815,"end_s":8816,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1474,"219095","Amo odiarte.",5298.84,5299.54,{"idx":8818,"utterance_id":8819,"speaker_name":69,"text":8820,"start_s":8821,"end_s":8822,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1475,"219096","No, es peor, ¿no?",5300.02,5300.64,{"idx":8824,"utterance_id":8825,"speaker_name":69,"text":8826,"start_s":8827,"end_s":8828,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1476,"219097","Él habló en comas, yo voy a hablar así, ¿cuál es la próxima pregunta?",5301.66,5305.56,{"idx":8830,"utterance_id":8831,"speaker_name":69,"text":8832,"start_s":8833,"end_s":8834,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1477,"219098","Tres puntos.",5306.02,5306.74,{"idx":8836,"utterance_id":8837,"speaker_name":96,"text":8838,"start_s":8839,"end_s":8840,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},1478,"219099","Entonces, respondiendo a su pregunta, aquí está la pregunta de Correndo para Cachorro.",5307.62,5311.96,{"idx":8842,"utterance_id":8843,"speaker_name":96,"text":8844,"start_s":8845,"end_s":8846,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},1479,"219100","Y él dijo lo siguiente... He visto el cambio en la enseñanza de la escuela pública.",5311.98,5316.42,{"idx":8848,"utterance_id":8849,"speaker_name":96,"text":8850,"start_s":8851,"end_s":8852,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},1480,"219101","Dejamos de cantar el himno, dejamos de hacer ferias de ciencia y fuimos perdiendo la calidad de la enseñanza.",5316.94,5321.98,{"idx":8854,"utterance_id":8855,"speaker_name":96,"text":8856,"start_s":8857,"end_s":8858,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},1481,"219102","La escuela pública no prepara al alumno para el concurso público ni para una universidad pública.",5322.46,5327.3,{"idx":8860,"utterance_id":8861,"speaker_name":96,"text":8862,"start_s":8863,"end_s":8864,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},1482,"219103","¿Cuál es su plan para cambiar esta situación y elevar la calidad de la enseñanza?",5327.72,5331.56,{"idx":8866,"utterance_id":8867,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":5252,"start_s":8868,"end_s":8869,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1483,"219104",5332.06,5333.32,{"idx":8871,"utterance_id":8872,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":8873,"start_s":8874,"end_s":8875,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1484,"219105","Necesitamos pasar... 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multitud.",5692.8,5695.1,{"idx":9375,"utterance_id":9376,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9377,"start_s":9378,"end_s":9379,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1568,"219189","Los quiero, pero están equivocados.",5695.46,5696.94,{"idx":9381,"utterance_id":9382,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9383,"start_s":9384,"end_s":9385,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1569,"219190","Volvamos aquí, hablemos seriamente.",5697.84,5699.96,{"idx":9387,"utterance_id":9388,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9389,"start_s":9390,"end_s":9391,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1570,"219191","qué es el conocimiento.",5700,5700.88,{"idx":9393,"utterance_id":9394,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9395,"start_s":9396,"end_s":9397,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},1571,"219192","Si los profesores han sido completamente despojados de su autoridad, si las escuelas no son de jornada completa, es el caos.",5701.26,5707.96,{"idx":9399,"utterance_id":9400,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9401,"start_s":9402,"end_s":9403,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1572,"219193","Y es el caos mundial.",5708.26,5709.24,{"idx":9405,"utterance_id":9406,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9407,"start_s":9408,"end_s":9409,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1573,"219194","Y usted habló de China.",5709.56,5710.46,{"idx":9411,"utterance_id":9412,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9413,"start_s":9414,"end_s":9415,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},1574,"219195","China tiene mucho que enseñar, pero China también tiene un problema serio.",5710.82,5714.2,{"idx":9417,"utterance_id":9418,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9419,"start_s":9420,"end_s":9421,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1575,"219196","Porque el 20% de los jóvenes se está autoabandonando.",5714.56,5717.48,{"idx":9423,"utterance_id":9424,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9425,"start_s":9426,"end_s":9427,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1576,"219197","Son 40 millones de jóvenes o más.",5718,5719.86,{"idx":9429,"utterance_id":9430,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9431,"start_s":9432,"end_s":9433,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1577,"219198","Es la era de la desesperanza.",5720.14,5721.28,{"idx":9435,"utterance_id":9436,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9437,"start_s":9438,"end_s":9439,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},1578,"219199","Y con la robótica, si no hay una economía distribuida en China, con millones, decenas de millones de microempresas, el gobierno tendrá que tener una renta general.",5721.56,5731.52,{"idx":9441,"utterance_id":9442,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9443,"start_s":9444,"end_s":9445,"word_count":239,"indexable":74},1579,"219200","Y si no hay recursos para tener esa renta general... ¿Cómo va a hacerlo el gobierno, cómo lo hará Francia, cómo lo hará Alemania, cómo lo hará Brasil?",5731.94,5739.46,{"idx":22,"utterance_id":9447,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9448,"start_s":9449,"end_s":9450,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},"219201","Entonces tenemos que tener una economía distribuida.",5739.94,5742.6,{"idx":9452,"utterance_id":9453,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9454,"start_s":9455,"end_s":9456,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1581,"219202","He estado conversando con economistas.",5742.62,5744.78,{"idx":9458,"utterance_id":9459,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9460,"start_s":9461,"end_s":9462,"word_count":208,"indexable":74},1582,"219203","La única posibilidad de superar la avalancha, el terremoto de la inteligencia artificial es tener millones de microempresas financiadas a bajos intereses, como dije.",5745.22,5757.1,{"idx":9464,"utterance_id":9465,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9466,"start_s":9467,"end_s":9468,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1583,"219204","Ahí sí, todo el mundo, los médicos van a perder empleos, muchos.",5757.24,5761.32,{"idx":9470,"utterance_id":9471,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9472,"start_s":9473,"end_s":9474,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1584,"219205","Abogados, miles, ingenieros, trabajadores de las empresas.",5762.12,5765.94,{"idx":9476,"utterance_id":9477,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9478,"start_s":9479,"end_s":9480,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1585,"219206","Si no hay una economía distribuida, es el caos.",5766.48,5770,{"idx":9482,"utterance_id":9483,"speaker_name":96,"text":5880,"start_s":9484,"end_s":9485,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1586,"219207",5772.16,5772.64,{"idx":9487,"utterance_id":9488,"speaker_name":96,"text":9489,"start_s":9490,"end_s":9491,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1587,"219208","¡Eh, Romer!",5772.82,5773.54,{"idx":9493,"utterance_id":9494,"speaker_name":96,"text":9495,"start_s":9496,"end_s":9497,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1588,"219209","Háblame.",5773.92,5774.34,{"idx":9499,"utterance_id":9500,"speaker_name":96,"text":9501,"start_s":9502,"end_s":9503,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1589,"219210","Buena pregunta, ¿eh?",5774.48,5775.16,{"idx":9505,"utterance_id":9506,"speaker_name":96,"text":9507,"start_s":9508,"end_s":9509,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1590,"219211","Espera, ahora viene una buena pregunta.",5775.18,5776.72,{"idx":9511,"utterance_id":9512,"speaker_name":96,"text":9513,"start_s":9514,"end_s":9515,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1591,"219212","Vamos, vamos.",5776.74,5777.46,{"idx":9517,"utterance_id":9518,"speaker_name":96,"text":9519,"start_s":9520,"end_s":9521,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1592,"219213","Cadu Silva lo mandó.",5778.12,5779.28,{"idx":9523,"utterance_id":9524,"speaker_name":96,"text":9525,"start_s":9526,"end_s":9527,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1593,"219214","Brasil todavía tiene hambre, pobreza, falta de saneamiento e incluso educación inaccesible.",5779.76,5784.48,{"idx":9529,"utterance_id":9530,"speaker_name":96,"text":9531,"start_s":9532,"end_s":9533,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},1594,"219215","¿Cuál es su plan para equilibrar a Brasil, que posee un escenario que muchos fingen que no existe?",5784.92,5790.1,{"idx":9535,"utterance_id":9536,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9537,"start_s":9538,"end_s":9539,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1595,"219216","Cadu, tienes toda la razón.",5791.44,5793.08,{"idx":9541,"utterance_id":9542,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9543,"start_s":9544,"end_s":9545,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1596,"219217","Muchos fingen el Senado, que fingen no existir.",5793.64,5796.98,{"idx":9547,"utterance_id":9548,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9549,"start_s":9550,"end_s":9551,"word_count":278,"indexable":74},1597,"219218","Y, como dije, hay una gran mayoría que fue silenciada, que están allí en las familias pero sin voz, que están en las comunidades o favelas sin voz, que están en las escuelas y no pueden expresar sus ideas.",5797.6,5810.26,{"idx":9553,"utterance_id":9554,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9555,"start_s":9556,"end_s":9557,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1598,"219219","Lo que importa es su dolor, solucionar los problemas.",5810.82,5814.42,{"idx":9559,"utterance_id":9560,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9561,"start_s":9562,"end_s":9563,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1599,"219220","Por eso, centrado en lo que importa.",5814.82,5816.78,{"idx":9565,"utterance_id":9566,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9567,"start_s":9568,"end_s":9569,"word_count":350,"indexable":74},1600,"219221","Si tenemos un gobierno con pacto, donde vamos a centrar en aquello que importa, 100% proyectos, sin ataques personales, y enfocado en las personas, en su dolor, y un Brasil de la suma y que no divide, nosotros, por primera vez, vamos a crear un clima cultural para un Brasil completamente diferente.",5817.2,5838.1,{"idx":9571,"utterance_id":9572,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9573,"start_s":9574,"end_s":9575,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1601,"219222","Mira, soy ajeno a la política.",5838.62,5840.34,{"idx":9577,"utterance_id":9578,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9579,"start_s":9580,"end_s":9581,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1602,"219223","Reitero, perdón por decirlo otra vez, no dependo de la política.",5840.88,5845.3,{"idx":9583,"utterance_id":9584,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9585,"start_s":9586,"end_s":9587,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1603,"219224","No dependo del prestigio, del dinero de la política.",5845.64,5848.12,{"idx":2778,"utterance_id":9589,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9590,"start_s":9591,"end_s":9592,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},"219225","Para mí es una donación a mi nación.",5848.52,5850.48,{"idx":9594,"utterance_id":9595,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9596,"start_s":9597,"end_s":9598,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1605,"219226","Tengo mucho más de lo que merezco.",5850.52,5851.94,{"idx":9600,"utterance_id":9601,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9602,"start_s":9603,"end_s":9604,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1606,"219227","Es lo que dije al principio.",5852.06,5853.18,{"idx":9606,"utterance_id":9607,"speaker_name":96,"text":9608,"start_s":9609,"end_s":9610,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1607,"219228","Ya tenía al burro a la sombra.",5853.6,5854.84,{"idx":9612,"utterance_id":9613,"speaker_name":96,"text":9614,"start_s":9615,"end_s":9616,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1608,"219229","¿Vamos a decir la verdad?",5855.02,5855.78,{"idx":9618,"utterance_id":9619,"speaker_name":96,"text":131,"start_s":9620,"end_s":9621,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1609,"219230",5856.22,5856.76,{"idx":9623,"utterance_id":9624,"speaker_name":96,"text":9625,"start_s":9626,"end_s":9627,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1610,"219231","Totalmente.",5857.16,5857.7,{"idx":9629,"utterance_id":9630,"speaker_name":69,"text":9631,"start_s":9632,"end_s":9633,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1611,"219232","Intelectualmente, financieramente, todo ya estaba.",5857.74,5863,{"idx":9635,"utterance_id":9636,"speaker_name":69,"text":9637,"start_s":9638,"end_s":9639,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1612,"219233","Entonces vamos a causar un poquito de confusión.",5863.36,5865.18,{"idx":9641,"utterance_id":9642,"speaker_name":69,"text":9643,"start_s":9644,"end_s":9645,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1613,"219234","Pero...",5866.08,5866.46,{"idx":9647,"utterance_id":9648,"speaker_name":96,"text":9649,"start_s":9650,"end_s":9651,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1614,"219235","Es una confusión por amor.",5867.02,5868.74,{"idx":9653,"utterance_id":9654,"speaker_name":69,"text":9655,"start_s":9656,"end_s":9657,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1615,"219236","No, no, eso era lo que iba a decir.",5868.82,5869.9,{"idx":9659,"utterance_id":9660,"speaker_name":69,"text":9661,"start_s":9662,"end_s":9663,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},1616,"219237","Apoyo a personas como tú, que no tienen una carrera política, que no vienen de generaciones y generaciones dependiendo de la política.",5870.5,5880.96,{"idx":9665,"utterance_id":9666,"speaker_name":69,"text":9667,"start_s":9668,"end_s":9669,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1617,"219238","Es decir, creo realmente en tus intenciones.",5881,5883.46,{"idx":9671,"utterance_id":9672,"speaker_name":69,"text":9673,"start_s":9674,"end_s":9675,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},1618,"219239","Mi problema es lo otro, es la falta de experiencia y ser engullido por el sistema.",5884.14,5891.28,{"idx":9677,"utterance_id":9678,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9679,"start_s":9680,"end_s":9681,"word_count":170,"indexable":74},1619,"219240","Y ya sabes, la falta de experiencia... Puede ser una gran ventaja, porque si yo tuviera experiencia...",5891.5,5896.48,{"idx":9683,"utterance_id":9684,"speaker_name":96,"text":9685,"start_s":9686,"end_s":9687,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1620,"219241","Es una ingenuidad que puede ser buena.",5896.5,5899.86,{"idx":9689,"utterance_id":9690,"speaker_name":96,"text":9691,"start_s":9692,"end_s":9693,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1621,"219242","Puede ser buena.",5900.32,5900.84,{"idx":9695,"utterance_id":9696,"speaker_name":69,"text":9697,"start_s":9698,"end_s":9699,"word_count":21,"indexable":74},1622,"219243","Porque la gente dice, no, ese tipo ni sirve, no está en el sistema, no sabe cómo funcionan las cosas, ¿no es así?",5900.86,5905.74,{"idx":9701,"utterance_id":9702,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":172,"start_s":9703,"end_s":9704,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1623,"219244",5906.22,5906.86,{"idx":9706,"utterance_id":9707,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9708,"start_s":9709,"end_s":9710,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1624,"219245","Bueno, imagina, estoy fuera de la política.",5907.3,5911.64,{"idx":9712,"utterance_id":9713,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9714,"start_s":9715,"end_s":9716,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1625,"219246","No dependo de la política.",5912.22,5913.32,{"idx":9718,"utterance_id":9719,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9720,"start_s":9721,"end_s":9722,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1626,"219247","Y no tengo la experiencia política tradicional que hundió al país.",5913.7,5916.64,{"idx":9724,"utterance_id":9725,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9726,"start_s":9727,"end_s":9728,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1627,"219248","Desafortunadamente no la tengo.",5916.9,5917.82,{"idx":9730,"utterance_id":9731,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9732,"start_s":9733,"end_s":9734,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},1628,"219249","Entonces puedo, más que nunca, invitar a personas notables para formar los ministerios.",5918.34,5923.54,{"idx":9736,"utterance_id":9737,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9738,"start_s":9739,"end_s":9740,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1629,"219250","Los mejores de la iniciativa privada.",5923.98,5925.56,{"idx":9742,"utterance_id":9743,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9744,"start_s":9745,"end_s":9746,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1630,"219251","Los mejores de la universidad.",5925.58,5927.2,{"idx":9748,"utterance_id":9749,"speaker_name":96,"text":9750,"start_s":9751,"end_s":9752,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1631,"219252","Y los políticos sin historial de corrupción.",5927.38,5929.12,{"idx":9754,"utterance_id":9755,"speaker_name":96,"text":9756,"start_s":9757,"end_s":9758,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1632,"219253","¿Pero en el partido no empiezan a hacer presión en ese momento?",5929.14,5931.22,{"idx":9760,"utterance_id":9761,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2676,"start_s":9762,"end_s":9763,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1633,"219254",5931.26,5931.58,{"idx":9765,"utterance_id":9766,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9767,"start_s":9768,"end_s":9769,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1634,"219255","Me dieron el 100% de libertad.",5932,5934.2,{"idx":9771,"utterance_id":9772,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9773,"start_s":9774,"end_s":9775,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1635,"219256","Y yo elegiría grandes, inclusive gobernadores.",5934.52,5937.08,{"idx":9777,"utterance_id":9778,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9779,"start_s":9780,"end_s":9781,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1636,"219257","gobernadores.",5938,5938.76,{"idx":9783,"utterance_id":9784,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9785,"start_s":9786,"end_s":9787,"word_count":164,"indexable":74},1637,"219258","que no tienen historial de corrupción, pero sí de gestión, para que estemos juntos en el Ministerio.",5939.3,5945.46,{"idx":9789,"utterance_id":9790,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9791,"start_s":9792,"end_s":9793,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},1638,"219259","¿Has pensado en hacer el Ministerio de Oro con los mejores políticos, con los mejores profesionales de la iniciativa privada y de las universidades?",5945.48,5953.62,{"idx":9795,"utterance_id":9796,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":9797,"start_s":9798,"end_s":9799,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1639,"219260","Es el Brasil de 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alguien que depende de la atención precaria del SUS?",6654.6,6660.84,{"idx":11399,"utterance_id":11400,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11401,"start_s":11402,"end_s":11403,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1909,"219530","Muchas gracias por su pregunta.",6661.78,6663.04,{"idx":11405,"utterance_id":11406,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11407,"start_s":11408,"end_s":11409,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1910,"219531","¿Quién envió esa pregunta?",6663.06,6664.16,{"idx":11411,"utterance_id":11412,"speaker_name":96,"text":11413,"start_s":11414,"end_s":11415,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1911,"219532","Fue Rafael Souza.",6664.66,6665.86,{"idx":11417,"utterance_id":11418,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11419,"start_s":11420,"end_s":11421,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1912,"219533","Rafael, tengo un proyecto importantísimo para la salud.",6666.06,6670.48,{"idx":11423,"utterance_id":11424,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11425,"start_s":11426,"end_s":11427,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},1913,"219534","Número uno, dije que abrazaremos a los neurodivergentes, que son 32 millones en el país.",6670.54,6675.9,{"idx":11429,"utterance_id":11430,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11431,"start_s":11432,"end_s":11433,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1914,"219535","También la salud física, que obviamente está ligada a lo emocional, ¿cómo la abrazaremos?",6676.34,6681.56,{"idx":11435,"utterance_id":11436,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11437,"start_s":11438,"end_s":11439,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1915,"219536","Haremos el mayor proyecto de telemedicina.",6682.12,6686.28,{"idx":11441,"utterance_id":11442,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11443,"start_s":11444,"end_s":11445,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1916,"219537","Del 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revolucionario.",6752.18,6754.32,{"idx":11589,"utterance_id":11590,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11591,"start_s":11592,"end_s":11593,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1941,"219562","Y nadie habla sobre eso.",6754.68,6755.64,{"idx":11595,"utterance_id":11596,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11597,"start_s":11598,"end_s":11599,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1942,"219563","¿Has oído a alguien hablar sobre eso?",6757.58,6758.68,{"idx":11601,"utterance_id":11602,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":2676,"start_s":11603,"end_s":11604,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1943,"219564",6758.7,6758.82,{"idx":11606,"utterance_id":11607,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11608,"start_s":11609,"end_s":11610,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1944,"219565","¿Qué piensas de eso?",6759.96,6761.3,{"idx":11612,"utterance_id":11613,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11614,"start_s":11615,"end_s":11616,"word_count":152,"indexable":74},1945,"219566","En tu opinión, ¿atender a un niño con diarrea y riesgo de vida de madrugada?",6761.9,6766.58,{"idx":11618,"utterance_id":11619,"speaker_name":96,"text":11620,"start_s":11621,"end_s":11622,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1946,"219567","Creo que es lo mínimo, ¿no?",6766.62,6767.36,{"idx":11624,"utterance_id":11625,"speaker_name":96,"text":11626,"start_s":11627,"end_s":11628,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1947,"219568","Creo que tiene que ser lo mínimo, ¿no?",6767.78,6768.84,{"idx":11630,"utterance_id":11631,"speaker_name":96,"text":11632,"start_s":11633,"end_s":11634,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1948,"219569","Tiene que ser lo mínimo, exactamente.",6768.86,6770.18,{"idx":11636,"utterance_id":11637,"speaker_name":96,"text":11638,"start_s":11639,"end_s":11640,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1949,"219570","¿Por qué es lo mínimo?",6770.52,6771.2,{"idx":11642,"utterance_id":11643,"speaker_name":96,"text":11644,"start_s":11645,"end_s":11646,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1950,"219571","Porque es lo mínimo que las personas deben recibir en cuanto a atención.",6771.3,6773.66,{"idx":11648,"utterance_id":11649,"speaker_name":69,"text":11650,"start_s":11651,"end_s":11652,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},1951,"219572","Pero es un país en el que ni siquiera tenemos saneamiento básico, ¿no?",6773.68,6777.06,{"idx":11654,"utterance_id":11655,"speaker_name":96,"text":11656,"start_s":11657,"end_s":11658,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1952,"219573","Exactamente, eso es.",6777.1,6778.66,{"idx":11660,"utterance_id":11661,"speaker_name":96,"text":11662,"start_s":11663,"end_s":11664,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1953,"219574","Sr.",6779.94,6780.14,{"idx":11666,"utterance_id":11667,"speaker_name":96,"text":11668,"start_s":11669,"end_s":11670,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1954,"219575","Cury, Dr.",6780.18,6780.7,{"idx":11672,"utterance_id":11673,"speaker_name":96,"text":11674,"start_s":11675,"end_s":11676,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1955,"219576","Cury, ¿cómo debo llamarlo?",6780.78,6782.6,{"idx":11678,"utterance_id":11679,"speaker_name":96,"text":11680,"start_s":11681,"end_s":11682,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1956,"219577","Como amigo.",6783.48,6783.98,{"idx":11684,"utterance_id":11685,"speaker_name":69,"text":11686,"start_s":11687,"end_s":11688,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1957,"219578","Amigo.",6784.14,6784.58,{"idx":11690,"utterance_id":11691,"speaker_name":69,"text":11692,"start_s":11693,"end_s":11694,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1958,"219579","Muchas gracias por la charla.",6785.18,6786.44,{"idx":11696,"utterance_id":11697,"speaker_name":69,"text":11698,"start_s":11699,"end_s":11700,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1959,"219580","Segunda vez que estuvo aquí.",6787.76,6788.64,{"idx":11702,"utterance_id":11703,"speaker_name":69,"text":11704,"start_s":11705,"end_s":11706,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1960,"219581","Hay una tercera ronda, ¿eh?",6789.86,6791.28,{"idx":11708,"utterance_id":11709,"speaker_name":69,"text":11710,"start_s":11711,"end_s":11712,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},1961,"219582","Hay una tercera ronda en la que no vamos a ser blandos con él, porque estamos siendo suaves con los candidatos aquí.",6791.48,6796.58,{"idx":11714,"utterance_id":11715,"speaker_name":69,"text":11716,"start_s":11717,"end_s":11718,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1962,"219583","Sin masaje, ¿no?",6796.6,6797.52,{"idx":11720,"utterance_id":11721,"speaker_name":96,"text":11722,"start_s":11723,"end_s":11724,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1963,"219584","¿Pero él tampoco fue suave?",6797.9,6799.36,{"idx":11726,"utterance_id":11727,"speaker_name":96,"text":11728,"start_s":11729,"end_s":11730,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1964,"219585","Fue suave.",6799.46,6799.9,{"idx":11732,"utterance_id":11733,"speaker_name":96,"text":11734,"start_s":11735,"end_s":11736,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1965,"219586","No, él se empeñó.",6800.16,6801.44,{"idx":11738,"utterance_id":11739,"speaker_name":96,"text":11740,"start_s":11741,"end_s":11742,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1966,"219587","No, tú no sabes lo que es ponerse duro.",6801.76,6804.38,{"idx":11744,"utterance_id":11745,"speaker_name":96,"text":11746,"start_s":11747,"end_s":11748,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1967,"219588","Solo separé las que estaban más solas.",6804.66,6806.12,{"idx":11750,"utterance_id":11751,"speaker_name":96,"text":1320,"start_s":11752,"end_s":11753,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1968,"219589",6806.2,6806.58,{"idx":11755,"utterance_id":11756,"speaker_name":96,"text":11757,"start_s":11758,"end_s":11759,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1969,"219590","¿Vas a estresar a un psiquiatra?",6806.6,6808.18,{"idx":11761,"utterance_id":11762,"speaker_name":69,"text":11763,"start_s":11764,"end_s":11765,"word_count":457,"indexable":74},1970,"219591","Entonces ya está invitado para la segunda ronda; cuando sea la sabatina, vamos a invitar a algunos periodistas aquí... que tengas toda la suerte del mundo en esta tu campaña, pero para finalizar tienes esa cámara y ahora es la hora de... tú dijiste, ¿por qué no elegir a las otras personas, por qué ir a elegir a Augusto Cury como hoy precandidato, quién sabe candidato en julio?",6810.4,6836.86,{"idx":11767,"utterance_id":11768,"speaker_name":69,"text":11769,"start_s":11770,"end_s":11771,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1971,"219592","¿Cuándo sale?",6837,6837.68,{"idx":11773,"utterance_id":11774,"speaker_name":69,"text":11775,"start_s":11776,"end_s":11777,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1972,"219593","¿Agosto?",6837.76,6838.36,{"idx":11779,"utterance_id":11780,"speaker_name":69,"text":11781,"start_s":11782,"end_s":11783,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1973,"219594","Agosto.",6838.76,6840.82,{"idx":11785,"utterance_id":11786,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11787,"start_s":11788,"end_s":11789,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1974,"219595","A mediados de agosto.",6841.06,6841.58,{"idx":11791,"utterance_id":11792,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11793,"start_s":11794,"end_s":11795,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1975,"219596","¿Por qué elegirlo?",6841.6,6842.44,{"idx":11797,"utterance_id":11798,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11799,"start_s":11800,"end_s":11801,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1976,"219597","¿Por qué elegirme?",6843.28,6844.12,{"idx":11803,"utterance_id":11804,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11805,"start_s":11806,"end_s":11807,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1977,"219598","Porque no dependo del poder.",6844.72,6846.16,{"idx":11809,"utterance_id":11810,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11811,"start_s":11812,"end_s":11813,"word_count":350,"indexable":74},1978,"219599","porque soy de fuera, porque tengo la libertad para elegir a las mejores mentes para gobernar este país, porque soy un hombre de proyectos, 100% proyectos y sin ataques personales, porque quiero ser la voz de las personas silenciadas, la voz de las personas que se sienten cansadas, estresadas.",6846.82,6868.8,{"idx":11815,"utterance_id":11816,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11817,"start_s":11818,"end_s":11819,"word_count":176,"indexable":74},1979,"219600","en un país que habla mucho de cosas relevantes, como el propio Vilela dijo, pero no toca lo esencial.",6869.38,6875.8,{"idx":11821,"utterance_id":11822,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11823,"start_s":11824,"end_s":11825,"word_count":60,"indexable":74},1980,"219601","Quiero ser el Brasil de la suma, quiero ser el Brasil que se centra en las personas y está enfocado en lo que importa.",6875.94,6883.94,{"idx":11827,"utterance_id":11828,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11829,"start_s":11830,"end_s":11831,"word_count":21,"indexable":74},1981,"219602","Importa tu dolor, importa tu familia, importa la nación brasileña, porque no estamos en dos barcos, solo hay un barco.",6884.12,6891.84,{"idx":11833,"utterance_id":11834,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11835,"start_s":11836,"end_s":11837,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},1982,"219603","Y si se hunde, nos hundimos todos.",6892.5,6894.68,{"idx":11839,"utterance_id":11840,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11841,"start_s":11842,"end_s":11843,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1983,"219604","Y puedes estar seguro.",6895.52,6896.86,{"idx":11845,"utterance_id":11846,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11847,"start_s":11848,"end_s":11849,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},1984,"219605","Quien esté dirigiendo ese barco, si yo estoy allí, mi comportamiento será: no seré el mayor líder de la nación, sino el mayor empleado de la nación.",6896.88,6905.84,{"idx":11851,"utterance_id":11852,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11853,"start_s":11854,"end_s":11855,"word_count":182,"indexable":74},1985,"219606","Y un presidente es sólo un líder contratado por el voto, con un plazo determinado para ser despedido, para irse.",6906.36,6919.04,{"idx":11857,"utterance_id":11858,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11859,"start_s":11860,"end_s":11861,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},1986,"219607","No es alguien superpoderoso ni alguien que deba ser valorado mucho más que cualquier ser humano que está ahí en la punta.",6919.66,6928.24,{"idx":11863,"utterance_id":11864,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11865,"start_s":11866,"end_s":11867,"word_count":21,"indexable":74},1987,"219608","luchando por cuidar a sus hijos, luchando para tener comida en la mesa, luchando por tener una educación de calidad, una salud de calidad.",6928.68,6935.44,{"idx":11869,"utterance_id":11870,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11871,"start_s":11872,"end_s":11873,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},1988,"219609","Entonces, ¿por qué deberías votar por mí?",6935.46,6937.7,{"idx":11875,"utterance_id":11876,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11877,"start_s":11878,"end_s":11879,"word_count":135,"indexable":74},1989,"219610","Porque quiero ser la voz de ti que estás silenciado.",6938.18,6941.68,{"idx":11881,"utterance_id":11882,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11883,"start_s":11884,"end_s":11885,"word_count":223,"indexable":74},1990,"219611","Muchas gracias por participar en este viaje nuestro, un viaje hacia nuestro interior, hacia una política completamente diferente de la que se ha hecho hasta hoy.",6942.16,6953.32,{"idx":11887,"utterance_id":11888,"speaker_name":69,"text":11889,"start_s":11890,"end_s":11891,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1991,"219612","Muchas gracias, Augusto Cury.",6953.82,6955.66,{"idx":11893,"utterance_id":11894,"speaker_name":69,"text":11895,"start_s":11896,"end_s":11897,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1992,"219613","Gracias a ustedes que estuvieron aquí con nosotros.",6955.68,6957.34,{"idx":11899,"utterance_id":11900,"speaker_name":69,"text":11901,"start_s":11902,"end_s":11903,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1993,"219614","Redes sociales?",6957.44,6958.2,{"idx":11905,"utterance_id":11906,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11907,"start_s":11908,"end_s":11909,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1994,"219615","Redes sociales, arroba Augusto Cury.",6959.2,6961.2,{"idx":11911,"utterance_id":11912,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11913,"start_s":11914,"end_s":11915,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1995,"219616","¿Todas las redes?",6961.76,6962.6,{"idx":11917,"utterance_id":11918,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11919,"start_s":11920,"end_s":11921,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1996,"219617","Exactamente, todas las redes.",6963.8,6965.52,{"idx":11923,"utterance_id":11924,"speaker_name":96,"text":11925,"start_s":11926,"end_s":11927,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},1997,"219618","¿Está saliendo ahí un código QR también, a dónde va?",6966.08,6968.28,{"idx":11929,"utterance_id":11930,"speaker_name":96,"text":11931,"start_s":11932,"end_s":11933,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1998,"219619","¿A dónde lleva ese código QR?",6968.38,6969.06,{"idx":11935,"utterance_id":11936,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11937,"start_s":11938,"end_s":11939,"word_count":112,"indexable":74},1999,"219620","Ese código QR es para nuestras comunidades.",6969.08,6971.12,{"idx":11941,"utterance_id":11942,"speaker_name":459,"speaker_slug":460,"text":11943,"start_s":11944,"end_s":11945,"word_count":261,"indexable":74},2000,"219621","Por favor, si crees en el Brasil de la suma y no de la división, en el Brasil que escucha a las personas, en el Brasil que pacifica y se centra en lo que importa, entra en nuestras comunidades de 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ese nivel compitiendo a la presidencia, creo que es una buena señal de que aún tenemos personas que abandonan una carrera de éxito para intentar ir.",6992.84,7010.86,{"idx":11977,"utterance_id":11978,"speaker_name":69,"text":11979,"start_s":11980,"end_s":11981,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},2006,"219627","Y ayudar a Brasil a mejorar, ¿no es así?",7010.88,7013.66,{"idx":11983,"utterance_id":11984,"speaker_name":69,"text":6773,"start_s":11985,"end_s":11986,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},2007,"219628",7013.88,7014.5,{"idx":11988,"utterance_id":11989,"speaker_name":69,"text":11990,"start_s":11991,"end_s":11992,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},2008,"219629","Este es el quinto programa, tal vez, con precandidatos.",7014.6,7019.52,{"idx":11994,"utterance_id":11995,"speaker_name":69,"text":11996,"start_s":11997,"end_s":11998,"word_count":124,"indexable":74},2009,"219630","Después haz esa cuenta ahí y seguimos en la cuenta.",7019.54,7022.72,{"idx":12000,"utterance_id":12001,"speaker_name":69,"text":12002,"start_s":12003,"end_s":12004,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},2010,"219631","Faltan Caiado, Aldo y Lula.",7023.02,7026.54,{"idx":12006,"utterance_id":12007,"speaker_name":96,"text":12008,"start_s":12009,"end_s":12010,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},2011,"219632","Y es verdad.",7026.74,7027.32,{"idx":12012,"utterance_id":12013,"speaker_name":96,"text":12014,"start_s":12015,"end_s":12016,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},2012,"219633","Estamos en la captura hablando con todos.",7027.46,7030.14,{"idx":12018,"utterance_id":12019,"speaker_name":96,"text":280,"start_s":12020,"end_s":12021,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},2013,"219634",7030.16,7030.38,{"idx":12023,"utterance_id":12024,"speaker_name":96,"text":12025,"start_s":12026,"end_s":12027,"word_count":118,"indexable":74},2014,"219635","¿Será que alguien va a huir de nosotros ahí?",7030.76,7031.92,{"idx":12029,"utterance_id":12030,"speaker_name":69,"text":12031,"start_s":12032,"end_s":12033,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},2015,"219636","No lo harán.",7032.14,7032.68,{"idx":12035,"utterance_id":12036,"speaker_name":69,"text":12037,"start_s":12038,"end_s":12039,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},2016,"219637","Dijeron que no.",7033.04,7033.92,{"idx":12041,"utterance_id":12042,"speaker_name":69,"text":12043,"start_s":12044,"end_s":12045,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},2017,"219638","Se va a poner 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