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buenas noches, CNN Brasil continúa la serie de entrevistas con los candidatos a los principales gobiernos estatales y del Distrito Federal.",6.46,14.64,false,{"idx":75,"utterance_id":76,"speaker_name":69,"text":77,"start_s":78,"end_s":79,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},1,"152098","Desde la semana pasada, estamos conversando con los candidatos al gobierno de Minas Gerais.",15.24,19.72,14,{"idx":82,"utterance_id":83,"speaker_name":69,"text":84,"start_s":85,"end_s":86,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},2,"152099","Los mejor posicionados en el índice CNN, agregador de encuestas de CNN Brasil desarrollado en asociación con IPESP Analítica, están siendo invitados para esta ronda.",20.22,30.4,{"idx":88,"utterance_id":89,"speaker_name":69,"text":90,"start_s":91,"end_s":92,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},3,"152100","Recibimos a Matheus Simões, del PSD, a Gabriel Azevedo, del MDB, a Flávio Rosco, del PL, y a Patrus Ananias, del PT.",30.9,38.82,20,{"idx":95,"utterance_id":96,"speaker_name":69,"text":97,"start_s":98,"end_s":99,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},4,"152101","Hoy es el turno de Cleitinho Azevedo, del Republicanos, ya en el estudio de Itatiaia, en Minas Gerais, en Belo Horizonte.",39.32,46.84,{"idx":101,"utterance_id":102,"speaker_name":69,"text":103,"start_s":104,"end_s":105,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},5,"152102","Aquí en São Paulo, a mi lado, está el analista de política Caio Junqueira; y en el estudio de Cineira, en Brasilia,",46.96,52.32,{"idx":107,"utterance_id":108,"speaker_name":69,"text":109,"start_s":110,"end_s":111,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},6,"152103","la analista Edilene Lopes.",52.84,55.12,{"idx":113,"utterance_id":114,"speaker_name":69,"text":115,"start_s":116,"end_s":117,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},7,"152104","Ya doy mi buenas noches a todos mis colegas, en especial al candidato, deseando una buena entrevista para todos nosotros.",55.52,61.82,21,{"idx":120,"utterance_id":121,"speaker_name":69,"text":122,"start_s":123,"end_s":124,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},8,"152105","Esta entrevista dura 45 minutos, como todas las demás.",62.26,66.54,12,{"idx":127,"utterance_id":128,"speaker_name":69,"text":129,"start_s":130,"end_s":131,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},9,"152106","El reloj empieza a contar a partir de ahora.",66.98,70.24,{"idx":4,"utterance_id":133,"speaker_name":69,"text":134,"start_s":135,"end_s":136,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},"152107","Candidato, quiero oír de usted, que fue el último en presentarse oficialmente en esta contienda.",70.3,77.3,15,{"idx":139,"utterance_id":140,"speaker_name":69,"text":141,"start_s":142,"end_s":143,"word_count":144,"indexable":73},11,"152108","¿Qué ha podido observar de la gestión actual que esté funcionando y que quiera mantener, en caso de ser elegido gobernador de Minas Gerais, y cuál será la primera medida, esa crucial, fundamental, que tomará y que cambiará radicalmente con respecto a lo que ocurre ahora en el estado de Minas?",77.9,93.38,52,{"idx":125,"utterance_id":146,"speaker_name":69,"text":147,"start_s":148,"end_s":149,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},"152109","Buenas noches.",102.12,102.62,{"idx":151,"utterance_id":152,"speaker_name":69,"text":153,"start_s":154,"end_s":155,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},13,"152110","¿Me están oyendo?",102.96,103.6,{"idx":80,"utterance_id":157,"speaker_name":69,"text":158,"start_s":159,"end_s":160,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},"152111","Sí, lo estamos.",103.92,104.42,{"idx":137,"utterance_id":162,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":165,"start_s":166,"end_s":167,"word_count":151,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":168,"target_proposition":169,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":172,"indexable":173},"152112","Cleitinho Azevedo","cleitinho-azevedo","Primero, lo que sea bueno del gobierno hay que darle continuidad.",108.1,112.06,"405d9f4c-a3c0-41b2-9b64-b786596567f0","dar continuidad a las políticas eficaces del gobierno estatal","a_favor",0.9,"afirma explícitamente 'o que for bom do governo, a gente tem que dar continuidade'.",true,{"idx":175,"utterance_id":176,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":177,"start_s":178,"end_s":179,"word_count":113,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":168,"target_proposition":169,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":181,"indexable":73},16,"152113","Eso lo haré con mucha humildad.",112.24,113.72,0.86,"se compromete directamente: 'Isso eu vou fazer'.",{"idx":183,"utterance_id":184,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":185,"start_s":186,"end_s":187,"word_count":127,"topic_slug":188,"topic_label":189,"target_id":190,"target_proposition":191,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":193,"indexable":173},17,"152114","No estoy aquí para atacar al gobierno actual.",113.76,115.74,"programa-eleitoral","Programa Electoral","8159cc24-9f50-4f7a-af45-ea4d92b59b8f","abstenerse de atacar al gobierno actual durante la campaña",0.88,"declara claramente 'não estou aqui para atacar o governo atual'.",{"idx":195,"utterance_id":196,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":197,"start_s":198,"end_s":199,"word_count":151,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":168,"target_proposition":169,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":201,"indexable":173},18,"152115","Creo que es importante mantener lo que vemos que es bueno.",116,117.76,0.8,"reafirma que es importante mantener lo que es bueno.",{"idx":203,"utterance_id":204,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":205,"start_s":206,"end_s":207,"word_count":95,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":168,"target_proposition":169,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":208,"indexable":73},19,"152116","Le damos continuidad.",118.24,119.34,"dice de forma directa 'A gente dá continuidade'.",{"idx":93,"utterance_id":210,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":211,"start_s":212,"end_s":213,"word_count":214,"topic_slug":215,"topic_label":216,"target_id":217,"target_proposition":218,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":219,"indexable":173},"152117","Ahora, lo que siempre dije desde que me postulé como precandidato a gobernador, al decidir si sería candidato a gobernador, además de hablar de salud, seguridad y educación, que eso es lo básico, es la obligación de una administración pública, es combatir la injusticia.",119.7,132.44,45,"saude-publica-e-infraestrutura-hospitalar","Salud pública y infraestructura hospitalaria","9129ad2a-f44c-43e0-942e-a5c302737dce","priorizar la inversión y el fortalecimiento de la salud pública","enumera la salud como obligación básica y prioridad administrativa.",{"idx":118,"utterance_id":221,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":222,"start_s":223,"end_s":224,"word_count":225,"topic_slug":226,"topic_label":227,"target_id":228,"target_proposition":229,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":230,"indexable":173},"152118","Veo varias injusticias dentro de Minas Gerais aquí, donde un ciudadano paga una factura de agua que no cuenta con tratamiento efectivo de aguas residuales, y aun así paga esa tasa.",132.84,141.48,29,"saneamento","Saneamiento","82670ba8-fa3c-43d1-80d6-97775281ae41","mejorar saneamiento básico y tratamiento de aguas residuales","critica el cobro del agua sin tratamiento de las aguas residuales, calificándolo de injusticia.",{"idx":60,"utterance_id":232,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":233,"start_s":234,"end_s":235,"word_count":118,"topic_slug":226,"topic_label":227,"target_id":236,"target_proposition":237,"stance":238,"stance_confidence":239,"rationale":240,"indexable":73},"152119","Hoy, una factura de agua de un trabajador mineiro aquí es de R$ 300, R$ 350, para quien gana R$ 1.600.",141.8,147.1,"7c0b6ee1-29c8-49c8-bae0-01e678e3a93e","implementar tarifa social en el servicio de saneamiento con múltiples franjas de descuento","neutro_descritivo",0.72,"presenta valores de factura e ingresos sin proponer solución en esta intervención.",{"idx":21,"utterance_id":242,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":243,"start_s":244,"end_s":245,"word_count":120,"topic_slug":246,"topic_label":247,"target_id":248,"target_proposition":249,"stance":238,"stance_confidence":239,"rationale":250,"indexable":73},"152120","La factura de la energía es lo mismo.",147.14,149.38,"matriz-energetica","Matriz energética","410f9c14-3bc1-47dc-ab73-991a9a4b2616","revisar los aumentos de tarifas de energía","afirma que la factura de energía carga al consumidor sin proponer acción aquí.",{"idx":252,"utterance_id":253,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":254,"start_s":255,"end_s":256,"word_count":175,"topic_slug":246,"topic_label":247,"target_id":257,"target_proposition":258,"stance":238,"stance_confidence":259,"rationale":260,"indexable":173},24,"152121","Una factura de energía en la que pagas más por tarifa, por impuesto, que por el propio consumo.",149.44,153.8,"f3961af7-f1bc-471b-9f0a-4e58355a7d46","revisar la composición de tarifas e impuestos en la factura de energía",0.75,"describe la composición de la factura, citando un impuesto mayor que el consumo.",{"idx":49,"utterance_id":262,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":263,"start_s":264,"end_s":265,"word_count":127,"topic_slug":246,"topic_label":247,"target_id":257,"target_proposition":258,"stance":238,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":267,"indexable":73},"152122","Una factura que llega a casi R$ 350, R$ 400.",154.16,158.36,0.7,"proporciona valores de la factura como dato descriptivo.",{"idx":9,"utterance_id":269,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":270,"start_s":271,"end_s":272,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":273,"topic_label":274,"target_id":275,"target_proposition":276,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":277,"indexable":173},"152123","Tenemos aquí el IPVA, la liquidadora más cara de Brasil, que con las pésimas carreteras, las carreteras horribles que hay aquí en Minas Gerais.",158.88,167.2,"financiamento-estadual","Financiamiento Estatal","2182e391-d0e3-4466-a859-099cd7c7bba5","reducir el cobro del IPVA estatal","critica el alto IPVA ante carreteras en mal estado y lo presenta como una injusticia.",{"idx":279,"utterance_id":280,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":281,"start_s":282,"end_s":283,"word_count":80,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":284,"target_proposition":285,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":286,"indexable":173},27,"152124","Entonces lo que quiero hacer desde el primer día es combatir la injusticia.",167.58,169.88,"ef6aafe5-efb9-49e1-90ba-f4c51ea29249","combatir injusticias en el estado","dice que su primer acto será 'combater a injustiça'.",{"idx":43,"utterance_id":288,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":289,"start_s":290,"end_s":291,"word_count":80,"topic_slug":273,"topic_label":274,"target_id":275,"target_proposition":276,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":293,"indexable":173},"152125","Quiero de alguna manera... Incluso hay una polémica sobre esa cuestión del IPVA.",170.4,175.02,0.82,"introduce la polémica del IPVA como foco de su actuación inicial.",{"idx":225,"utterance_id":295,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":296,"start_s":297,"end_s":298,"word_count":252,"topic_slug":273,"topic_label":274,"target_id":275,"target_proposition":276,"stance":299,"stance_confidence":300,"rationale":301,"indexable":73},"152126","Diciendo que voy a acabar con el IPVA porque quiero que no se incauten más vehículos por falta de pago del IPVA.",175.72,180.86,"ambiguo",0.5,"cita rumores que dicen 'vou acabar com o IPVA' sin afirmarlo claramente.",{"idx":303,"utterance_id":304,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":305,"start_s":306,"end_s":307,"word_count":175,"topic_slug":273,"topic_label":274,"target_id":275,"target_proposition":276,"stance":238,"stance_confidence":308,"rationale":309,"indexable":73},30,"152127","Y la polémica es decir que yo no tengo competencia para eso, que eso es federal.",181.5,184.32,0.62,"relata una crítica sobre competencia (federal vs estatal) sin proponer nada.",{"idx":311,"utterance_id":312,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":313,"start_s":314,"end_s":315,"word_count":316,"topic_slug":273,"topic_label":274,"target_id":275,"target_proposition":276,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":317,"indexable":173},31,"152128","Si yo soy el gobernador y quien cobra el IPVA es el gobierno... Entonces tengo competencia para dar varias alternativas para que el ciudadano mineiro no sea más humillado en Minas Gerais, y a partir del 1º de enero no será más humillado.",184.86,198.18,46,"afirma tener competencia y promete alternativas para evitar la humillación.",{"idx":15,"utterance_id":319,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":320,"start_s":321,"end_s":322,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":284,"target_proposition":285,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":323,"indexable":173},"152129","Entonces, todo lo que pueda hacer dentro del Estado, el primer día de mandato, mi lucha contra la injusticia que ocurre con el pueblo mineiro, lo haré con mucho gusto.",198.22,205.68,"promete actuar 'no primeiro dia de mandato' para combatir injusticias.",{"idx":27,"utterance_id":325,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":326,"start_s":327,"end_s":328,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},"152130","Porque allí quien va a gobernar es el pueblo.",205.96,207.58,{"idx":330,"utterance_id":331,"speaker_name":69,"text":332,"start_s":333,"end_s":334,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},34,"152131","Vamos a rotar las preguntas.",208.02,209.48,{"idx":336,"utterance_id":337,"speaker_name":69,"text":338,"start_s":339,"end_s":340,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},35,"152132","Voy a ceder la palabra a Edilene Lopes para que profundicemos la conversación aquí.",209.5,213.5,{"idx":342,"utterance_id":343,"speaker_name":69,"text":344,"start_s":345,"end_s":346,"word_count":49,"indexable":73},36,"152133","Y te dejo a gusto también, candidato, si necesito ajustar el retorno de audio mientras Edilene hace la pregunta para que quede más cómodo.",213.94,221.18,{"idx":348,"utterance_id":349,"speaker_name":69,"text":350,"start_s":351,"end_s":352,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},37,"152134","Por favor, Edilene.",221.2,221.98,{"idx":354,"utterance_id":355,"speaker_name":69,"text":356,"start_s":357,"end_s":358,"word_count":43,"indexable":73},38,"152135","Senador Cleitinho, el elector que hoy aún no se ha decidido... Sobre el candidato por el cual va a votar en Minas Gerais, tiene una pregunta en la cabeza, que es la siguiente.",223.5,232.96,{"idx":360,"utterance_id":361,"speaker_name":69,"text":362,"start_s":363,"end_s":364,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},39,"152136","Después de un proceso tan largo para decidir si sería o no candidato, el senador Cleitinho está... ¿Está preparado?",233.24,240.08,{"idx":366,"utterance_id":367,"speaker_name":69,"text":368,"start_s":369,"end_s":370,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},40,"152137","¿Se puede asegurar que está preparado para ocupar ese cargo?",240.38,244.78,{"idx":372,"utterance_id":373,"speaker_name":69,"text":374,"start_s":375,"end_s":376,"word_count":279,"indexable":73},41,"152138","Una segunda pregunta que los electores siempre hacen también es: Cleitinho fue concejal, fue diputado estadual y fue senador, pero no ocupó ningún cargo en el Ejecutivo.",245.16,256,{"idx":378,"utterance_id":379,"speaker_name":69,"text":380,"start_s":381,"end_s":382,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},42,"152139","En Minas Gerais, es un estado que tiene, por ejemplo, una deuda grande con la Unión.",256.02,259.5,{"idx":384,"utterance_id":385,"speaker_name":69,"text":386,"start_s":387,"end_s":388,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},43,"152140","¿Él estaría preparado?",259.68,260.96,{"idx":390,"utterance_id":391,"speaker_name":69,"text":392,"start_s":393,"end_s":394,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},44,"152141","Es decir, resumiendo, ¿el elector puede confiar?",261.14,263.58,{"idx":214,"utterance_id":396,"speaker_name":69,"text":397,"start_s":398,"end_s":399,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},"152142","En segundo lugar, señor, ¿usted se considera preparado?",263.7,265.48,{"idx":316,"utterance_id":401,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":402,"start_s":403,"end_s":404,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},"152143","Edilene, qué excelente pregunta.",269.02,270.64,{"idx":406,"utterance_id":407,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":408,"start_s":409,"end_s":410,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},47,"152144","Primero, te doy buenas noches.",270.7,271.76,{"idx":412,"utterance_id":413,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":414,"start_s":415,"end_s":416,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":188,"topic_label":189,"target_id":417,"target_proposition":418,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":419,"indexable":173},48,"152145","Además, tú que eres de Minas Gerais, quiero mucho contar con tu voto, Edilene, porque creo que ningún candidato que tú entrevistaste hasta ahora te pidió el voto.",272.02,278.46,"810e7585-7441-4878-bb21-d87947f5359a","iniciar solicitud de votos a partir de la fecha reglamentaria","pide directamente el voto de Edilene: 'eu quero muito contar com o seu voto'.",{"idx":421,"utterance_id":422,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":423,"start_s":424,"end_s":425,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},49,"152146","Te estoy pidiendo el voto.",278.48,279.32,{"idx":427,"utterance_id":428,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":429,"start_s":430,"end_s":431,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},50,"152147","El voto es secreto, pero puedes votar por mí.",279.34,280.94,{"idx":433,"utterance_id":434,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":435,"start_s":436,"end_s":437,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},51,"152148","¿Está bien?",281.32,281.62,{"idx":144,"utterance_id":439,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":440,"start_s":441,"end_s":442,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},"152149","Pero esa pregunta es extremadamente importante, porque siempre digo esto: nunca fuiste del Ejecutivo.",282.06,287.1,{"idx":444,"utterance_id":445,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":446,"start_s":447,"end_s":448,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},53,"152150","Entonces te hago una pregunta.",287.44,288.8,{"idx":450,"utterance_id":451,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":452,"start_s":453,"end_s":454,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},54,"152151","¿El actual presidente de la república, antes de ser presidente, habría sido presidente de la república?",289.18,294,{"idx":456,"utterance_id":457,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":458,"start_s":459,"end_s":460,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},55,"152152","¿Lula?",294.04,294.34,{"idx":462,"utterance_id":463,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":464,"start_s":465,"end_s":466,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},56,"152153","El propio Bolsonaro, que fue el anterior, él siempre había sido del Legislativo.",294.88,298.78,{"idx":468,"utterance_id":469,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":470,"start_s":471,"end_s":472,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},57,"152154","¿Él había sido presidente, había ocupado algún cargo ejecutivo?",299.14,302.08,{"idx":474,"utterance_id":475,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":476,"start_s":477,"end_s":478,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},58,"152155","El propio actual exgobernador, que ahora es presidenciable, Romeu Zema.",302.44,306.58,{"idx":480,"utterance_id":481,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":482,"start_s":483,"end_s":484,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},59,"152156","¿Qué cargo político había ocupado antes de ser gobernador?",306.96,308.84,{"idx":486,"utterance_id":487,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":488,"start_s":489,"end_s":490,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},60,"152157","Entonces, ¿por qué no puedo?",309.24,310.44,{"idx":492,"utterance_id":493,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":494,"start_s":495,"end_s":496,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},61,"152158","Esa experiencia, cualquier persona que está aquí, inclusive tú, Edilene, te garantizo que cuando empezaste eras de una forma.",311.02,316.72,{"idx":498,"utterance_id":499,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":500,"start_s":501,"end_s":502,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},62,"152159","Hoy estás mucho más experimentada.",316.8,318.1,{"idx":504,"utterance_id":505,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":506,"start_s":507,"end_s":508,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},63,"152160","Nadie nace sabiendo nada.",318.46,319.78,{"idx":510,"utterance_id":511,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":512,"start_s":513,"end_s":514,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},64,"152161","Entonces, ¿qué es lo que ya sé?",320.08,321.36,{"idx":516,"utterance_id":517,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":518,"start_s":519,"end_s":520,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},65,"152162","Sé separar muy bien lo que está bien y lo que está mal.",321.42,324.22,{"idx":522,"utterance_id":523,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":524,"start_s":525,"end_s":526,"word_count":118,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":527,"target_proposition":528,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":529,"indexable":173},66,"152163","Entonces lo que necesito hacer allí es rodearme de personas competentes a mi lado, porque nadie hace nada solo.",324.54,329.76,"cc2f1dba-fadf-4950-a16c-fb950bffdcd4","priorizar el nombramiento de gestores competentes en el sector público","dice que necesita 'me cobrir de pessoas competentes' y nombrarlas.",{"idx":531,"utterance_id":532,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":533,"start_s":534,"end_s":535,"word_count":118,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":168,"target_proposition":169,"stance":238,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":536,"indexable":73},67,"152164","La máquina pública del Estado ya funciona, ya tiene Secretaría de Educación, Secretaría de Infraestructura, Secretaría de Planificación, Secretaría de Hacienda.",330.2,337.78,"describe la existencia de la máquina pública y secretarías sin proponer cambio.",{"idx":538,"utterance_id":539,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":540,"start_s":541,"end_s":542,"word_count":175,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":527,"target_proposition":528,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":543,"indexable":173},68,"152165","Me corresponde colocar a las personas correctas en el lugar correcto, eso es lo que voy a hacer.",338.14,341.12,"afirma que le corresponde a él 'colocar as pessoas certas no lugar certo'.",{"idx":545,"utterance_id":546,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":547,"start_s":548,"end_s":549,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},69,"152166","No sé todo y ningún candidato lo sabe todo.",341.42,343.9,{"idx":551,"utterance_id":552,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":553,"start_s":554,"end_s":555,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},70,"152167","Ahora sé muy bien lo que está bien y lo que está mal.",344.3,346.32,{"idx":557,"utterance_id":558,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":559,"start_s":560,"end_s":561,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},71,"152168","Y lo que voy a hacer en la silla de gobernador es hacer lo correcto.",346.54,350.1,{"idx":563,"utterance_id":564,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":565,"start_s":566,"end_s":567,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},72,"152169","Es hacer las acciones que necesitan hacerse para el pueblo.",350.48,353.22,{"idx":569,"utterance_id":570,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":571,"start_s":572,"end_s":573,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},73,"152170","Soy un líder político, tomo decisiones políticas.",353.88,356.18,{"idx":575,"utterance_id":576,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":577,"start_s":578,"end_s":579,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},74,"152171","Y las decisiones que tomaré serán siempre a favor del pueblo.",356.44,359.54,{"idx":581,"utterance_id":582,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":583,"start_s":584,"end_s":585,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},75,"152172","Jesucristo, que no necesitaba a nadie, andaba con 12 discípulos.",359.96,363.8,{"idx":587,"utterance_id":588,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":589,"start_s":590,"end_s":591,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},76,"152173","Ahora imagíname a mí.",363.98,364.76,{"idx":593,"utterance_id":594,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":595,"start_s":596,"end_s":597,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},77,"152174","Entonces tengo que rodearme de personas honestas, personas competentes.",365.28,369.1,{"idx":599,"utterance_id":600,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":601,"start_s":602,"end_s":603,"word_count":279,"topic_slug":604,"topic_label":605,"target_id":606,"target_proposition":607,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":608,"indexable":173},78,"152175","y dar continuidad al trabajo que viene haciendo, que hoy es del actual gobernador, y necesitar arreglar, arreglar lo que necesita ser arreglado, mejorar, ser transparente.",369.44,380.2,"transparencia-fiscal","Transparencia fiscal","c7f02ea7-68a5-46e9-9131-15770ede5c5c","implementar transparencia en la administración pública estatal","dice que la administración pública se llama 'transparência' y quiere ser transparente.",{"idx":610,"utterance_id":611,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":612,"start_s":613,"end_s":614,"word_count":151,"topic_slug":604,"topic_label":605,"target_id":606,"target_proposition":607,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":615,"indexable":173},79,"152176","Creo que, para mí, el principio de la administración pública se llama transparencia.",380.22,384.08,"declara explícitamente 'o que eu vou fazer... é ser transparente'.",{"idx":617,"utterance_id":618,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":619,"start_s":620,"end_s":621,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},80,"152177","Lo que voy a hacer dentro del Estado, dentro del gobierno, es ser transparente.",384.38,388.28,{"idx":623,"utterance_id":624,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":625,"start_s":626,"end_s":627,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":527,"target_proposition":528,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":628,"indexable":173},81,"152178","Voy a poner a los secretarios competentes en la cartera, incluso a Dilene.",388.76,392.44,"afirma que 'vou colocar os secretários competentes na pasta'.",{"idx":630,"utterance_id":631,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":632,"start_s":633,"end_s":634,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":635,"target_proposition":636,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":637,"indexable":173},82,"152179","Ya dije eso, ya que hasta oficialicé diciendo que la primera secretaria que quería tener en mi gobierno sería de carrera, que es incluso de la educación, una mujer.",392.74,401.5,"357f040a-c5ad-4207-bb61-15dcbc4cef7b","realizar procesos selectivos para la designación de secretarios y gestores públicos","declara preferencia por una secretaria de carrera para la educación.",{"idx":639,"utterance_id":640,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":641,"start_s":642,"end_s":643,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":644,"target_proposition":645,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":646,"indexable":173},83,"152180","Quiero dialogar eso con los profesores, con los profesionales de la educación.",401.9,404.84,"af663cfb-3f94-48aa-8fce-edef92d08737","dialogar y negociar con los sindicatos del magisterio","dice 'Eu quero dialogar isso com os professores' de forma propositiva.",{"idx":648,"utterance_id":649,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":650,"start_s":651,"end_s":652,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},84,"152181","Y hoy aquí también conversé mucho esta semana con... ¿Lo conoces?",405.26,409.12,{"idx":654,"utterance_id":655,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":656,"start_s":657,"end_s":658,"word_count":118,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":659,"target_proposition":660,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":661,"indexable":173},85,"152182","Medioli, que también fue alcalde de Betim, y le hice esta invitación para que pueda formar parte de este secretariado.",409.52,414,"21a498e3-d8ef-45ee-86fa-88b941b3b9fc","invitar a gestores experimentados para integrar el secretariado estatal","explica haber invitado a Medioli a integrar el secretariado por experiencia.",{"idx":663,"utterance_id":664,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":665,"start_s":666,"end_s":667,"word_count":60,"indexable":73},86,"152183","Porque Medioli fue uno de los mejores alcaldes, no solo de Betim, fue uno de los mejores alcaldes de Brasil, Medioli.",414.02,419.26,{"idx":669,"utterance_id":670,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":671,"start_s":672,"end_s":673,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},87,"152184","Y tengo la seguridad de que tiene mucho que aportar conmigo aquí con la experiencia que tiene en esta parte administrativa.",419.44,423.58,{"idx":675,"utterance_id":676,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":677,"start_s":678,"end_s":679,"word_count":252,"indexable":73},88,"152185","Además mi vice es Falcão, que salió de la prefeitura de Pátio Minas, para quien no sabe, con una aceptación del 80%.",423.96,430.68,{"idx":681,"utterance_id":682,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":683,"start_s":684,"end_s":685,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},89,"152186","Él sabe administrar.",431.62,432.5,{"idx":687,"utterance_id":688,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":689,"start_s":690,"end_s":691,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},90,"152187","Quien es elegido y luego reelegido con 80% es porque supo administrar.",432.92,436.56,{"idx":693,"utterance_id":694,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":695,"start_s":696,"end_s":697,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},91,"152188","Entonces voy a formar un gran equipo para la población de Minas, poner a las personas correctas en el lugar correcto.",436.84,442.9,{"idx":699,"utterance_id":700,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":701,"start_s":702,"end_s":703,"word_count":203,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":527,"target_proposition":528,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":704,"rationale":705,"indexable":173},92,"152189","Y estoy seguro de que lo más importante son estas manos aquí, eh. Se las voy a mostrar a ustedes aquí.",443.16,446.8,0.85,"reafirma que montará 'um timaço' y 'colocar as pessoas certas'.",{"idx":707,"utterance_id":708,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":709,"start_s":710,"end_s":711,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},93,"152190","Estas manos mías aquí están limpias.",447.2,448.66,{"idx":713,"utterance_id":714,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":715,"start_s":716,"end_s":717,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},94,"152191","Y eso es lo que importa.",448.92,449.76,{"idx":719,"utterance_id":720,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":721,"start_s":722,"end_s":723,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},95,"152192","Dicen así, ah, pero el infierno está lleno de buenas intenciones.",450.02,452.5,{"idx":725,"utterance_id":726,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":727,"start_s":728,"end_s":729,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},96,"152193","Pero lo que la política necesita son buenas intenciones.",452.68,455.04,{"idx":731,"utterance_id":732,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":733,"start_s":734,"end_s":735,"word_count":60,"indexable":73},97,"152194","Eso es lo que la política necesita: personas bienintencionadas, que van a tomar el dinero del pueblo y devolverlo al pueblo.",455.64,460.34,{"idx":737,"utterance_id":738,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":739,"start_s":740,"end_s":741,"word_count":80,"topic_slug":742,"topic_label":743,"target_id":744,"target_proposition":745,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":746,"indexable":173},98,"152195","No voy a hacer nada ahí, negociar nada que no sea para el pueblo.",460.62,463.26,"personalismo-na-politica","Personalismo Político","82f1444b-1596-428f-acb5-a7a93e31e71e","evitar conflicto de intereses entre cargos públicos y vínculos con empresas privadas","declara 'não vou negociar nada que não seja para o povo'.",{"idx":748,"utterance_id":749,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":750,"start_s":751,"end_s":752,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},99,"152196","No voy a negociar nada para mi bolsillo, solo voy a negociar para el pueblo.",463.5,466.52,{"idx":754,"utterance_id":755,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":756,"start_s":757,"end_s":758,"word_count":366,"indexable":73},100,"152197","Y sobre la cuestión de haber ido y vuelto, para la tristeza de los políticos, esa nota que el partido publicó en aquella época diciendo que yo no sería candidato, estoy seguro de que varios políticos de Minas Gerais lanzaron cohetes.",466.8,477.66,{"idx":760,"utterance_id":761,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":762,"start_s":763,"end_s":764,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},101,"152198","Pero después de que dije que iba a ser candidato, pobrecitos de esa tropa, todo debe haber empezado a llorar.",478.82,484.28,{"idx":766,"utterance_id":767,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":768,"start_s":769,"end_s":770,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},102,"152199","Entonces, así, para la tristeza de los políticos, para la alegría del pueblo, soy candidato a gobernador.",484.56,489.08,{"idx":772,"utterance_id":773,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":774,"start_s":775,"end_s":776,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},103,"152200","Estoy haciendo lo que el pueblo me pidió.",489.46,491.42,{"idx":778,"utterance_id":779,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":780,"start_s":781,"end_s":782,"word_count":372,"indexable":73},104,"152201","Dejé eso claro, Edilendo, tú me acompañaste en esta trayectoria, me dijiste el año pasado que si yo seguía liderando las encuestas hasta el final, que llegara allá para julio, que serían las convenciones, yo me pondría a disposición para ser candidato.",491.72,503.06,{"idx":784,"utterance_id":785,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":786,"start_s":787,"end_s":788,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},105,"152202","Entonces eso fue lo que hice, escuché al pueblo.",503.3,504.92,{"idx":790,"utterance_id":791,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":792,"start_s":793,"end_s":794,"word_count":311,"indexable":73},106,"152203","Ahora, lo más importante... Esa indefinición no fue porque soy inelegible, no fue porque tenga ficha sucia, no fue porque tenga corrupción en mi nombre, no tiene nada.",505.26,515.86,{"idx":796,"utterance_id":797,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":798,"start_s":799,"end_s":800,"word_count":360,"indexable":73},107,"152204","Lo único que fue fue la cuestión del partido conmigo, porque en la época de la convención estaba enterrando a mi hermano, estaba con la situación de mi hermano, estaba de luto, fue solo por eso.",516.06,526.18,{"idx":802,"utterance_id":803,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":804,"start_s":805,"end_s":806,"word_count":195,"indexable":73},108,"152205","Nos resolvimos y estoy como candidato por la alegría del pueblo y por la tristeza de los políticos.",526.38,531,{"idx":808,"utterance_id":809,"speaker_name":69,"text":810,"start_s":811,"end_s":812,"word_count":336,"indexable":73},109,"152206","Usted plantea... La cuestión de que usted no tenga procesos en su contra, de que usted tenga las manos limpias, pero alrededor suyo hay personas que tienen involucramiento, al menos, como mínimo, en denuncias.",531.2,545.38,{"idx":814,"utterance_id":815,"speaker_name":69,"text":816,"start_s":817,"end_s":818,"word_count":311,"indexable":73},110,"152207","Yo menciono aquí a Euclides Pettersen, que es presidente de su partido en Minas Gerais y sospechoso, acusado, involucrado, según la CPMI del INSS, de estar implicado en las fraudes del INSS.",545.42,560.78,{"idx":820,"utterance_id":821,"speaker_name":69,"text":822,"start_s":823,"end_s":824,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},111,"152208","de su partido.",561.84,562.74,{"idx":826,"utterance_id":827,"speaker_name":69,"text":828,"start_s":829,"end_s":830,"word_count":360,"indexable":73},112,"152209","Y también planteo la cuestión de Marcelo Arno, de que también hay denuncias allí, principalmente en la prensa de Minas, relacionadas con su implicación en el caso Master; también es un aliado suyo en esta disputa, él es candidato al Senado.",562.78,576.6,{"idx":832,"utterance_id":833,"speaker_name":69,"text":834,"start_s":835,"end_s":836,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},113,"152210","¿Cómo ve usted a estos dos personajes y a usted cargando con estos dos personajes en la elección?",576.62,581.28,{"idx":838,"utterance_id":839,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":840,"start_s":841,"end_s":842,"word_count":183,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":843,"target_proposition":844,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":845,"indexable":173},114,"152211","Entonces, la cuestión de Euclides, que quede claro, que él no es solo un aliado mío, no.",584.74,587.66,"52e1aa62-c5a2-4413-a4c7-56f538921889","preservar la responsabilización por corrupción y la transparencia","dice que si un aliado es condenado 'vai ter que pagar', sin protección.",{"idx":847,"utterance_id":848,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":849,"start_s":850,"end_s":851,"word_count":195,"indexable":73},115,"152212","Durante este proceso, para que la gente entienda, hice amistad con él, hoy él es un amigo mío.",587.7,592.2,{"idx":198,"utterance_id":853,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":854,"start_s":855,"end_s":856,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},"152213","Solo que su CPF es uno, mi CPF es otro.",592.64,595.26,{"idx":858,"utterance_id":859,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":860,"start_s":861,"end_s":862,"word_count":342,"indexable":73},117,"152214","Y si, desafortunadamente, incluso durante este proceso él es condenado, me pondré muy triste porque es mi amigo, pero como cualquier otro ciudadano, como yo, como usted, tendrá que responder por ello.",595.6,604.5,{"idx":864,"utterance_id":865,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":866,"start_s":867,"end_s":868,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},118,"152215","No puedo hacer nada, desafortunadamente.",604.88,606.54,{"idx":870,"utterance_id":871,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":872,"start_s":873,"end_s":874,"word_count":311,"indexable":73},119,"152216","Si él hizo eso... Porque hasta ahora fue a la PGR, la PGR está en el caso, ¿no?, en esa cuestión de investigar para después ver si él será condenado o no.",606.94,613.96,{"idx":876,"utterance_id":877,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":878,"start_s":879,"end_s":880,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},120,"152217","Si es condenado, tendrá que pagar por ello.",614.36,616.9,{"idx":882,"utterance_id":883,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":884,"start_s":885,"end_s":886,"word_count":311,"indexable":73},121,"152218","Ahora la cuestión de Aro, solo para que la gente entienda: hace cuatro años disputamos una elección al Senado, que yo gané la elección, y él quedó en tercer lugar.",616.96,624.22,{"idx":888,"utterance_id":889,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":890,"start_s":891,"end_s":892,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},122,"152219","Él me atacó mucho durante esa elección.",624.72,626.38,{"idx":894,"utterance_id":895,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":896,"start_s":897,"end_s":898,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},123,"152220","Solo que una cosa que aprendí en la vida es saber perdonar.",626.78,628.66,{"idx":900,"utterance_id":901,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":902,"start_s":903,"end_s":904,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},124,"152221","Él vino y me pidió perdón.",629.14,630.14,{"idx":906,"utterance_id":907,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":908,"start_s":909,"end_s":910,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},125,"152222","Acepté su perdón y esa composición vino también por cuestión del partido.",631.22,634.92,{"idx":912,"utterance_id":913,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":914,"start_s":915,"end_s":916,"word_count":303,"indexable":73},126,"152223","El partido, cuando vino a pedirme, en el caso, oficializar mi candidatura, Marcos Pereira, que es presidente de los Republicanos, me pidió poder, en el caso, apoyar a Aro.",635.24,643.34,{"idx":918,"utterance_id":919,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":920,"start_s":921,"end_s":922,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},127,"152224","Ahora, Aro, hasta ahora, son... Son noticias que están vinculadas a él.",643.62,648.66,{"idx":924,"utterance_id":925,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":926,"start_s":927,"end_s":928,"word_count":195,"indexable":73},128,"152225","Si hay algún proceso contra Aro también, gente, tendrá que pagar, como cualquier otra persona.",649,652.48,{"idx":930,"utterance_id":931,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":932,"start_s":933,"end_s":934,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},129,"152226","Si lo investigan, lo averiguan, es condenado, no está por encima de la ley, ni él, ni Clídes, ni ningún candidato, ni yo lo estoy.",652.78,658.96,{"idx":936,"utterance_id":937,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":938,"start_s":939,"end_s":940,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},130,"152227","Tendrá que pagar.",659.28,659.9,{"idx":942,"utterance_id":943,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":944,"start_s":945,"end_s":946,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},131,"152228","Así es como funciona Brasil.",659.98,661.02,{"idx":948,"utterance_id":949,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":950,"start_s":951,"end_s":952,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},132,"152229","Así es como funciona la justicia en Brasil.",661.34,662.96,{"idx":954,"utterance_id":955,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":956,"start_s":957,"end_s":958,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},133,"152230","Así es como tiene que ser.",662.98,663.62,{"idx":62,"utterance_id":960,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":961,"start_s":962,"end_s":963,"word_count":113,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":843,"target_proposition":844,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":964,"indexable":73},"152231","No voy a encubrir nada.",663.9,665.08,"afirma explícitamente 'Eu não vou passar pano para nada'.",{"idx":966,"utterance_id":967,"speaker_name":69,"text":968,"start_s":969,"end_s":970,"word_count":175,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":971,"target_proposition":972,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":973,"indexable":173},135,"152232","Ahora, para dejar claro, candidato, usted ya citó algunos nombres con los que pretende contar.",665.74,670.76,"ae2002ce-26e1-46ad-8614-439c930ee22a","nombrar secretarios solo si no hay asuntos judiciales pendientes relevantes","concuerda que integrarían el gobierno 'se não houver nada pesando contra eles'.",{"idx":975,"utterance_id":976,"speaker_name":69,"text":977,"start_s":978,"end_s":979,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},136,"152233","en un eventual secretariado en caso de que usted sea elegido.",671.3,674.14,{"idx":981,"utterance_id":982,"speaker_name":69,"text":983,"start_s":984,"end_s":985,"word_count":60,"indexable":73},137,"152234","Esos dos nombres que fueron mencionados por Caio Junqueira, si no pesa nada en su contra en la justicia, podrían integrar el gobierno.",674.62,682.64,{"idx":987,"utterance_id":988,"speaker_name":69,"text":989,"start_s":990,"end_s":991,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},138,"152235","¿Cleitinho Azevedo, en especial Marcelo Arco, que ya fue secretario, incluso, de la gestión actual?",682.98,688.24,{"idx":51,"utterance_id":993,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":994,"start_s":995,"end_s":996,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},"152236","No.",691.66,691.84,{"idx":998,"utterance_id":999,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1000,"start_s":1001,"end_s":1002,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},140,"152237","Soy muy directo y muy objetivo.",692.36,693.84,{"idx":1004,"utterance_id":1005,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1006,"start_s":1007,"end_s":1008,"word_count":699,"indexable":73},141,"152238","Solo para que entiendan, en esta situación de Euclides, me gusta decir esto porque sé que durante la campaña siempre van a vincularme con la cuestión de Euclides, que como les dije, Euclides se convirtió en un amigo mío porque le tengo gratitud, porque en la época de la elección de 2022, si no fuera primero Dios, pero él me hubiera invitado para ir a la disputa y haber comprado esa pelea conmigo, tal vez hoy ni siquiera estaría dando entrevistas porque no era senador.",694.16,715.48,{"idx":1010,"utterance_id":1011,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1012,"start_s":1013,"end_s":1014,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},142,"152239","Entonces tengo esa gratitud con él.",715.88,717.18,{"idx":1016,"utterance_id":1017,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1018,"start_s":1019,"end_s":1020,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},143,"152240","Pero gratitud es una cosa, amistad es otra, y la política es otra.",717.36,720.34,{"idx":1022,"utterance_id":1023,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1024,"start_s":1025,"end_s":1026,"word_count":252,"indexable":73},144,"152241","Entonces... Esa cuestión del secretariado, mientras él no resuelva ese problema suyo, para que ustedes se hagan una idea, él podría haberse presentado como candidato al Senado.",720.66,727.56,{"idx":1028,"utterance_id":1029,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1030,"start_s":1031,"end_s":1032,"word_count":43,"indexable":73},145,"152242","Fue una conversación entre nosotros y el partido en la que le explicamos: resuelve tu problema primero, porque en este momento no hay manera de que yo te apoye como senador.",727.94,733.84,{"idx":1034,"utterance_id":1035,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1036,"start_s":1037,"end_s":1038,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},146,"152243","Fue una conversación cara a cara.",734.86,736.68,{"idx":1040,"utterance_id":1041,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1042,"start_s":1043,"end_s":1044,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},147,"152244","Le expliqué eso a él.",736.96,737.98,{"idx":1046,"utterance_id":1047,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1048,"start_s":1049,"end_s":1050,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},148,"152245","Entonces, él ya sabe eso.",738.22,739.18,{"idx":39,"utterance_id":1052,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1053,"start_s":1054,"end_s":1055,"word_count":486,"indexable":73},"152246","Aron, para que ustedes se hagan una idea, el propio Aron, en la conversación que tuve con él, él mismo dijo que va a disputar la elección y que si no gana la elección al Senado, no quiere ningún cargo dentro del gobierno, porque ya no quiere ser secretario de gobierno, ni mío, ni de Matheus ni de quien sea.",739.32,752.84,{"idx":1057,"utterance_id":1058,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1059,"start_s":1060,"end_s":1061,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},150,"152247","Esa también es una decisión suya y además él no formaría, tampoco participaría en mi secretariado.",753.12,757.66,{"idx":1063,"utterance_id":1064,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1065,"start_s":1066,"end_s":1067,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},151,"152248","Esa ya es una conversación que ya tuve con él.",757.7,759.2,{"idx":1069,"utterance_id":1070,"speaker_name":69,"text":1071,"start_s":1072,"end_s":1073,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},152,"152249","¿Edilene?",760.14,760.56,{"idx":1075,"utterance_id":1076,"speaker_name":69,"text":1077,"start_s":1078,"end_s":1079,"word_count":522,"indexable":73},153,"152250","Senador, ¿cree usted que su candidatura terminó desagregando a la derecha en Minas Gerais, dado que tenemos candidatos en otras listas, aunque su lista sea una lista pura, solo de los Republicanos, declarando apoyo a usted, como por ejemplo en el PL hay candidatos declarando apoyo, incluso de la izquierda también: una alcaldesa del PT declaró apoyo a usted, corre el riesgo de ser sancionada?",762.04,782.26,{"idx":1081,"utterance_id":1082,"speaker_name":69,"text":1083,"start_s":1084,"end_s":1085,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},154,"152251","¿Cree usted que fue un factor desagregador de la derecha y cree que también logrará disminuir las candidaturas de la izquierda?",782.32,789.64,{"idx":1087,"utterance_id":1088,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1089,"start_s":1090,"end_s":1091,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},155,"152252","Mira, no creo que se pueda decir que eso haya ocurrido.",793.46,795.4,{"idx":1093,"utterance_id":1094,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1095,"start_s":1096,"end_s":1097,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},156,"152253","No, Edileno, por la siguiente razón.",795.42,797.2,{"idx":1099,"utterance_id":1100,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1101,"start_s":1102,"end_s":1103,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},157,"152254","Estoy liderando las encuestas.",797.62,798.76,{"idx":1105,"utterance_id":1106,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1107,"start_s":1108,"end_s":1109,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},158,"152255","Si tomas las encuestas, ese elector de derecha está conmigo.",798.82,803.36,{"idx":1111,"utterance_id":1112,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1113,"start_s":1114,"end_s":1115,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},159,"152256","Creo que es un proceso natural.",803.64,804.84,{"idx":1117,"utterance_id":1118,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1119,"start_s":1120,"end_s":1121,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},160,"152257","Está Roski, que es un tipo al que admiro, al que respeto.",805.36,807.94,{"idx":1123,"utterance_id":1124,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1125,"start_s":1126,"end_s":1127,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},161,"152258","Y creo que hay primera vuelta y puede haber segunda vuelta también.",808.32,811.82,{"idx":1129,"utterance_id":1130,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1131,"start_s":1132,"end_s":1133,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},162,"152259","Si llego a la segunda vuelta, quiero contar con su apoyo.",812.2,814.22,{"idx":1135,"utterance_id":1136,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1137,"start_s":1138,"end_s":1139,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},163,"152260","Si no llego y si la segunda vuelta la disputan Matheus o el propio Roski, tendrán mi apoyo.",814.26,818.98,{"idx":1141,"utterance_id":1142,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1143,"start_s":1144,"end_s":1145,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},164,"152261","Soy muy transparente, muy sincero.",819.38,821.08,{"idx":1147,"utterance_id":1148,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1149,"start_s":1150,"end_s":1151,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},165,"152262","No esperen de mí que me quede aquí, dando rodeos, mintiendo, engañándolos, no.",821.1,825.7,{"idx":1153,"utterance_id":1154,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1155,"start_s":1156,"end_s":1157,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},166,"152263","Entonces, así... Soy muy objetivo.",826,828.2,{"idx":1159,"utterance_id":1160,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1161,"start_s":1162,"end_s":1163,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},167,"152264","Mi situación, lo que me pasó, fue esa situación del partido.",828.74,832.38,{"idx":1165,"utterance_id":1166,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1167,"start_s":1168,"end_s":1169,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},168,"152265","El PL (Partido Liberal) sí quería apoyarme.",832.7,834.18,{"idx":1171,"utterance_id":1172,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1173,"start_s":1174,"end_s":1175,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},169,"152266","Ya lo habíamos acordado, ¿no?",834.6,836.22,{"idx":1177,"utterance_id":1178,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1179,"start_s":1180,"end_s":1181,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},170,"152267","Que yo también iba a apoyar a Domingos Sávio, que es candidato a senador.",836.48,839.68,{"idx":1183,"utterance_id":1184,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1185,"start_s":1186,"end_s":1187,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},171,"152268","Pero con esta situación del partido, esta indefinición, ocurrió que el PL (Partido Liberal) lanzó a un candidato.",840,844.52,{"idx":1189,"utterance_id":1190,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1191,"start_s":1192,"end_s":1193,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},172,"152269","Eso forma parte del proceso, es natural.",844.78,846.56,{"idx":1195,"utterance_id":1196,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1197,"start_s":1198,"end_s":1199,"word_count":15,"indexable":73},173,"152270","Y creo que si tanto hablamos... Miren, lo que quiero decirles aquí, para que me lo recuerden después del segundo turno, o después de que terminen las elecciones.",846.96,854.76,{"idx":1201,"utterance_id":1202,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1203,"start_s":1204,"end_s":1205,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},174,"152271","Y espero que tantos candidatos de la derecha tengan esa coherencia que yo estoy teniendo.",855.06,858.24,{"idx":1207,"utterance_id":1208,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1209,"start_s":1210,"end_s":1211,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},175,"152272","Siempre dijeron que la derecha tenía que estar unida.",858.66,860.84,{"idx":1213,"utterance_id":1214,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1215,"start_s":1216,"end_s":1217,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},176,"152273","¿Qué dije yo, Dios, el año pasado?",861.18,863.24,{"idx":1219,"utterance_id":1220,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1221,"start_s":1222,"end_s":1223,"word_count":510,"indexable":73},177,"152274","Gente, estoy aquí, incluso Nicolas, que es candidato a diputado federal; tuve varias conversaciones con él, porque como tengo el Senado aquí y me quedaban cuatro años más de Senado, le dejé muy claro a Nicolas: si usted quiere ser candidato a gobernador, ya que tiene edad suficiente, yo le cedo el lugar y tendré el gusto de poder apoyarle.",863.26,879.66,{"idx":45,"utterance_id":1225,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1226,"start_s":1227,"end_s":1228,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},"152275","Nicolas consideró que en este momento no sería candidato.",880.04,881.94,{"idx":1230,"utterance_id":1231,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1232,"start_s":1233,"end_s":1234,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},179,"152276","Entonces, los candidatos de la derecha siempre hablan sobre la unión de la derecha.",882.26,885.62,{"idx":1236,"utterance_id":1237,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1238,"start_s":1239,"end_s":1240,"word_count":144,"indexable":73},180,"152277","En este momento, ahora en la primera vuelta... No puede suceder eso, cada uno seguirá su camino, pero espero mucho, si estoy en la segunda vuelta, poder contar con ellos, porque tengo la certeza de que si no estoy, haré todo lo posible para poder apoyarlos también.",886.02,898.62,{"idx":1242,"utterance_id":1243,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1244,"start_s":1245,"end_s":1246,"word_count":60,"indexable":73},181,"152278","Y sobre la cuestión de la alcaldesa del PT, esto que no me canso de decirles: soy un político extremadamente democrático.",898.88,905,{"idx":1248,"utterance_id":1249,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1250,"start_s":1251,"end_s":1252,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},182,"152279","Sí lo soy; soy una persona que no mira la sigla, no mira la cuestión partidaria o ideológica, miro a las personas.",906.28,912.14,{"idx":1254,"utterance_id":1255,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1256,"start_s":1257,"end_s":1258,"word_count":360,"indexable":73},183,"152280","Lo que pasó fue que en mi gabinete, cuando gané como senadora, dejé muy claro que cualquier alcalde, cualquier sigla, que quisiera usar mi gabinete para llevar demandas de las ciudades, yo tendría el gusto de atenderles, con mucho honor.",912.48,923.58,{"idx":1260,"utterance_id":1261,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1262,"start_s":1263,"end_s":1264,"word_count":348,"indexable":73},184,"152281","Y lo que ella hizo fue llevar una demanda de la ciudad; tengo esos recursos que son las enmiendas, e hice cuestión de mandar esa enmienda a la ciudad, a ella, que no es sólo para ella.",923.9,931.48,{"idx":1266,"utterance_id":1267,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1268,"start_s":1269,"end_s":1270,"word_count":406,"indexable":73},185,"152282","No, ya hay concejales del PT que fueron... En mi gabinete hay concejales del PT que también me van a apoyar, hay concejales de otros partidos también, del centro, de la izquierda; hay alcaldes que fueron y yo siempre atendí y siempre lo haré, sí.",931.52,944.3,{"idx":1272,"utterance_id":1273,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1274,"start_s":1275,"end_s":1276,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},186,"152283","Si gano las elecciones, voy a gobernar para todos.",944.62,946.58,{"idx":1278,"utterance_id":1279,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1280,"start_s":1281,"end_s":1282,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},187,"152284","No me canso de decir una cosa: puedo ser de derecha, pero mi corazón es para todos.",946.86,950.94,{"idx":1284,"utterance_id":1285,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1286,"start_s":1287,"end_s":1288,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},188,"152285","Y si gano las elecciones tengo la obligación de atender a los 853 municipios.",951.32,955.48,{"idx":1290,"utterance_id":1291,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1292,"start_s":1293,"end_s":1294,"word_count":330,"indexable":73},189,"152286","A todos los alcaldes de Minas Gerais que llevaron demandas justas, que son a favor del pueblo, tendré mi corazón abierto, el gabinete abierto para atender a todos: políticos, diputados federales, diputados estatales, senadores.",955.8,966.84,{"idx":11,"utterance_id":1296,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1297,"start_s":1298,"end_s":1299,"word_count":330,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":1300,"target_proposition":1301,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":1302,"indexable":173},"152287","Pasé por la Asamblea, conviví dentro de la Asamblea, hice varios amigos de diversas ideologías allí, de varios partidos, y así es como voy a trabajar: trabajaré para todos.",967.18,975.46,"a63833a5-2d27-4222-a281-d781851cee7c","gobernar para todos","declara trabajar para todos y convivir con varias ideologías.",{"idx":1304,"utterance_id":1305,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1306,"start_s":1307,"end_s":1308,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":1309,"target_proposition":1310,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":1311,"indexable":173},191,"152288","Tengo mi línea de pensamiento, mi forma de hacer política, respeto la de ellos, pero si se trata de hablar del pueblo, pueden contar conmigo al 100%.",975.74,982.62,"0ab7821e-f58d-416f-8ec7-aadc0449aa7b","priorizar los intereses del pueblo en la gestión pública","se compromete explícitamente a priorizar al pueblo ('pode contar comigo 100%').",{"idx":1313,"utterance_id":1314,"speaker_name":69,"text":1315,"start_s":1316,"end_s":1317,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},192,"152289","Ahora, senador, a nivel nacional, ¿su candidato es Flávio Bolsonaro?",983.2,986.78,{"idx":1319,"utterance_id":1320,"speaker_name":69,"text":1321,"start_s":1322,"end_s":1323,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},193,"152290","¿Usted va a hacer campaña por él?",986.8,988.04,{"idx":1325,"utterance_id":1326,"speaker_name":69,"text":1327,"start_s":1328,"end_s":1329,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},194,"152291","¿Se va a comprometer con esa candidatura?",988.08,990.02,{"idx":1331,"utterance_id":1332,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1333,"start_s":1334,"end_s":1335,"word_count":311,"topic_slug":188,"topic_label":189,"target_id":1336,"target_proposition":1337,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":1338,"rationale":1339,"indexable":173},195,"152292","Ya lo estoy haciendo, porque ya había dicho esto desde el año pasado, cuando él tenía esa intención de ser candidato a presidente, diciendo que lo apoyaría.",993.7,1002.88,"8a16683e-8ab5-4f8d-a763-cef9c5e4b65f","apoyar la candidatura de Flávio Bolsonaro",0.92,"afirma explícitamente que ya está apoyando y que lo dijo desde el año pasado.",{"idx":1341,"utterance_id":1342,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1343,"start_s":1344,"end_s":1345,"word_count":648,"topic_slug":188,"topic_label":189,"target_id":1336,"target_proposition":1337,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":1346,"indexable":173},196,"152293","Por la cuestión de la derecha, por él con quien trabajo en el Senado —llevo casi cuatro años trabajando con él—, y también por el padre, que es Bolsonaro, al que le tengo mucha gratitud también; además de Dios, además del pueblo, si no hubiese sido Bolsonaro que me apoyó en esa campaña de 2022, que incluso llamó al presidente nacional del partido para asegurar mi puesto, tal vez no estaría aquí dando la entrevista para ustedes.",1003.2,1023.84,"recuerda su gratitud hacia Bolsonaro y el vínculo político que justifica el apoyo.",{"idx":56,"utterance_id":1348,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1349,"start_s":1350,"end_s":1351,"word_count":214,"indexable":73},"152294","Entonces ya había dicho eso: en mi situación, Flávio también iba a hacer un acto en mi favor, pero vino la indefinición de la cuestión de mi candidatura en el partido, y Flávio se decidió y ahora está Flávio Roschi, que está haciendo un acto.",1023.86,1037.3,{"idx":1353,"utterance_id":1354,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1355,"start_s":1356,"end_s":1357,"word_count":120,"topic_slug":1358,"topic_label":1359,"target_id":1360,"target_proposition":1361,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":1362,"indexable":173},198,"152295","Entonces, así, la derecha tiene que estar unida.",1037.34,1039.1,"aliancas-politicas","Alianzas políticas","814cbbdf-1c97-4395-b6ac-0de6f5f41c60","unir a candidatos de derecha en la segunda vuelta contra la izquierda","declara directamente que 'a direita tem que estar unida'.",{"idx":1364,"utterance_id":1365,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1366,"start_s":1367,"end_s":1368,"word_count":137,"topic_slug":1358,"topic_label":1359,"target_id":1360,"target_proposition":1361,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":1369,"indexable":173},199,"152296","Y yo estaré unido con la derecha para que podamos fortalecernos aún más.",1039.52,1043.1,"reafirma que estará unido con la derecha para fortalecer la fuerza política.",{"idx":1371,"utterance_id":1372,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1373,"start_s":1374,"end_s":1375,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},200,"152297","Entonces, voy a seguir con esto aquí.",1043.14,1044.78,{"idx":1377,"utterance_id":1378,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1379,"start_s":1380,"end_s":1381,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},201,"152298","No voy a tener su palanque.",1044.98,1046.02,{"idx":1383,"utterance_id":1384,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1385,"start_s":1386,"end_s":1387,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":188,"topic_label":189,"target_id":1388,"target_proposition":1389,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":1390,"indexable":173},202,"152299","El palanque que haré ahora será un palanque en solitario.",1046.22,1048.32,"9d2a10ee-d333-4b91-a01a-2ac27d600d87","realizar campaña independiente","afirma que hará un mitin propio ('um palanque sozinho').",{"idx":1392,"utterance_id":1393,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1394,"start_s":1395,"end_s":1396,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},203,"152300","Solo no, con el pueblo.",1048.34,1049.38,{"idx":1398,"utterance_id":1399,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1400,"start_s":1401,"end_s":1402,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},204,"152301","Hoy mismo ya recorrí tres ciudades caminando entre la gente.",1049.7,1052.28,{"idx":1404,"utterance_id":1405,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1406,"start_s":1407,"end_s":1408,"word_count":183,"topic_slug":188,"topic_label":189,"target_id":1336,"target_proposition":1337,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":1409,"rationale":1410,"indexable":173},205,"152302","Y en lo que tenga oportunidad de poder ayudar a Flávio, estaré a disposición.",1052.5,1055.24,0.87,"declara disponibilidad para ayudar a Flávio cuando tenga oportunidad.",{"idx":1412,"utterance_id":1413,"speaker_name":69,"text":1414,"start_s":1415,"end_s":1416,"word_count":203,"indexable":73},206,"152303","Candidato, uno de los puntos que hemos abordado mucho en las entrevistas es la situación fiscal de Minas Gerais.",1055.88,1061.54,{"idx":1418,"utterance_id":1419,"speaker_name":69,"text":1420,"start_s":1421,"end_s":1422,"word_count":303,"indexable":73},207,"152304","Usted comenzó diciendo, por ejemplo, que ha sufrido críticas respecto a lo que usted piensa del IPVA y del cobro a personas que terminan con autos embargados, etc.",1061.88,1072.36,{"idx":1424,"utterance_id":1425,"speaker_name":69,"text":1426,"start_s":1427,"end_s":1428,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},208,"152305","Pero esta cuestión de la situación financiera de Minas depende de conversaciones, de diálogos con el gobierno federal.",1073.02,1080.04,{"idx":1430,"utterance_id":1431,"speaker_name":69,"text":1432,"start_s":1433,"end_s":1434,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},209,"152306","Según las encuestas de Minas y nacionales, usted es el favorito para elegirse gobernador y el presidente Lula para ser reelecto para un nuevo mandato.",1080.6,1089.44,{"idx":1436,"utterance_id":1437,"speaker_name":69,"text":1438,"start_s":1439,"end_s":1440,"word_count":366,"indexable":73},210,"152307","¿Cómo espera usted tratar con Lula, en caso de confirmarse ese resultado —usted electo y el presidente reelecto—, cómo abordará al gobierno federal para discutir la cuestión fiscal de Minas?",1089.7,1101.48,{"idx":1442,"utterance_id":1443,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1444,"start_s":1445,"end_s":1446,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":1447,"topic_label":1448,"target_id":1449,"target_proposition":1450,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":1451,"indexable":173},211,"152308","Con el mayor respeto, de una manera republicana y democrática.",1104.74,1108.08,"relacoes-intergovernamentais","Relaciones intergubernamentales","14be2d7a-7819-4362-bbc8-411c2f52b8ac","dialogar con el gobierno federal","promete tratar con 'maior respeito' y 'de forma republicana e democrática'.",{"idx":1453,"utterance_id":1454,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1455,"start_s":1456,"end_s":1457,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},212,"152309","Ya lo he dicho en varias entrevistas.",1108.46,1110.48,{"idx":1459,"utterance_id":1460,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1461,"start_s":1462,"end_s":1463,"word_count":336,"topic_slug":1447,"topic_label":1448,"target_id":1464,"target_proposition":1465,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":1466,"indexable":173},213,"152310","Si Lula gana la elección, y yo gano la elección, mi primer acto como gobernador —y voy a decirles la verdad— no esperaré ni a ser diplomado ni a ser investido.",1110.98,1118.76,"ecbf795d-136e-47a9-86aa-486dca7d59e4","renegociar la deuda del Estado con la Unión","anuncia que la primera reunión será con el presidente para pedir ayuda con la deuda.",{"idx":1468,"utterance_id":1469,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1470,"start_s":1471,"end_s":1472,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":1447,"topic_label":1448,"target_id":1464,"target_proposition":1465,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":1473,"indexable":173},214,"152311","Cuando llegue noviembre, si he sido reelecto, y yo también elegido como... gobernador del Estado, la primera reunión que quiero hacer es con Lula.",1119.2,1125.82,"reitera la intención de reunirse con el presidente para tratar la deuda.",{"idx":1475,"utterance_id":1476,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1477,"start_s":1478,"end_s":1479,"word_count":137,"topic_slug":1447,"topic_label":1448,"target_id":1464,"target_proposition":1465,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":1480,"indexable":173},215,"152312","Quiero mirarlo a los ojos y pedir ayuda, porque no tiene sentido que quien está endeudado.",1126.12,1129.82,"dice que quiere pedir ayuda al presidente porque 'não adianta quem está devendo'.",{"idx":1482,"utterance_id":1483,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1484,"start_s":1485,"end_s":1486,"word_count":390,"indexable":73},216,"152313","Es lo mismo que si yo debiera a Edilene aquí, ir a hablar con Edilene de forma grosera, señalándola con el dedo y queriendo que ella me ayude a pagar esa deuda con Edilene.",1130.06,1139.76,{"idx":1488,"utterance_id":1489,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1490,"start_s":1491,"end_s":1492,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":1447,"topic_label":1448,"target_id":1449,"target_proposition":1450,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":1493,"indexable":173},217,"152314","No será con peleas, con discusión, será con diálogo.",1139.96,1144.84,"defiende el diálogo en vez de la pelea para resolver cuestiones federales.",{"idx":1495,"utterance_id":1496,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1497,"start_s":1498,"end_s":1499,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},218,"152315","Necesito que el próximo gobernador del Estado tenga humildad.",1144.88,1149.18,{"idx":1501,"utterance_id":1502,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1503,"start_s":1504,"end_s":1505,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},219,"152316","de mantener ese diálogo con el gobierno federal, porque todo lo que recaudamos aquí no se queda aquí; la mayoría vuelve al gobierno federal, un 70%.",1149.64,1156.66,{"idx":1507,"utterance_id":1508,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1509,"start_s":1510,"end_s":1511,"word_count":195,"indexable":73},220,"152317","Hay muchas cosas que tienen que hacerse aquí dentro de Minas Gerais que son responsabilidad del gobierno federal.",1157.22,1160.82,{"idx":1513,"utterance_id":1514,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1515,"start_s":1516,"end_s":1517,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":1447,"topic_label":1448,"target_id":1449,"target_proposition":1450,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":1518,"indexable":173},221,"152318","Y si queda esa pelea ideológica, esa pelea que no conduce a ninguna parte, quien pierde con ello es el pueblo; con políticas públicas, quien va a perder es solo el pueblo.",1161.14,1168.1,"advierte que la pelea ideológica perjudica al pueblo y no conduce a ningún lado.",{"idx":1520,"utterance_id":1521,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1522,"start_s":1523,"end_s":1524,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":1300,"target_proposition":1301,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":1525,"indexable":173},222,"152319","Entonces tengo que tener respeto, tengo que pensar en el pueblo, y tengo que entender que gobierno para todos.",1168.38,1173.22,"afirma que gobernará tanto para quienes votaron como para quienes no votaron.",{"idx":1527,"utterance_id":1528,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1529,"start_s":1530,"end_s":1531,"word_count":252,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":1300,"target_proposition":1301,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":1409,"rationale":1532,"indexable":173},223,"152320","A partir del momento en que termine la elección, yo seré gobernador; gobernaré para quienes votaron por mí y para quienes no votaron.",1173.26,1178.32,"reitera que, una vez electo, gobernará para todo el Estado.",{"idx":1534,"utterance_id":1535,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1536,"start_s":1537,"end_s":1538,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},224,"152321","Lo voy a ser.",1178.9,1179.36,{"idx":1540,"utterance_id":1541,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1542,"start_s":1543,"end_s":1544,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":1545,"topic_label":1546,"target_id":1547,"target_proposition":1548,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":1549,"indexable":73},225,"152322","Sí, no soy un tipo nada radical, nada extremista.",1179.48,1182.96,"governanca-politica","Gobernanza política","b51f0f50-9099-458b-855a-6056d6a8af26","adoptar una postura política moderada","declara no ser ni radical ni extremista.",{"idx":1551,"utterance_id":1552,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1553,"start_s":1554,"end_s":1555,"word_count":203,"indexable":73},226,"152323","Lula, cuando perdí a mi hermano, me llamó, fue solidario conmigo, me expresó sus condolencias.",1183.48,1189.04,{"idx":1557,"utterance_id":1558,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1559,"start_s":1560,"end_s":1561,"word_count":183,"topic_slug":1562,"topic_label":1563,"target_id":1564,"target_proposition":1565,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":704,"rationale":1566,"indexable":173},227,"152324","Así que nunca me verán aquí poniendo a un político, al presidente o a quien sea como un enemigo mortal.",1189.3,1195.5,"politica-cultural","Política cultural","4d26c215-2ef5-4093-bc81-709ac6b3de17","promover el diálogo y la mediación en la política","dice que no va a convertir a los políticos en 'inimigo mortal'.",{"idx":1568,"utterance_id":1569,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1570,"start_s":1571,"end_s":1572,"word_count":225,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":1573,"target_proposition":1574,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":1575,"indexable":173},228,"152325","Tengo mis pensamientos; él no es mi aliado, así como yo no soy aliado suyo, él está apoyando a otro candidato, pero por encima de todo soy aliado del pueblo.",1195.86,1202.1,"d82988a4-f03b-4e05-bdfb-697fae9effbb","priorizar los intereses del pueblo sobre las alianzas partidarias","afirma ser aliado del pueblo por encima de los aliados políticos.",{"idx":17,"utterance_id":1577,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1578,"start_s":1579,"end_s":1580,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":1581,"topic_label":1582,"target_id":1583,"target_proposition":1584,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":1585,"indexable":173},"152326","Así que todo lo que sea por el pueblo, estaré dispuesto a dialogar.",1202.36,1205.88,"politica-institucional","Política institucional","aaa2343c-1618-404b-9491-05c0120a9472","dialogar con diferentes fuerzas políticas para implementar políticas públicas","dice estar dispuesto a dialogar por todo lo que sea por el pueblo.",{"idx":1587,"utterance_id":1588,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1589,"start_s":1590,"end_s":1591,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},230,"152327","Entonces... Recuerden lo que les estoy diciendo aquí.",1206.16,1208.56,{"idx":1593,"utterance_id":1594,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1595,"start_s":1596,"end_s":1597,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":1447,"topic_label":1448,"target_id":1464,"target_proposition":1465,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":1598,"indexable":173},231,"152328","Si gano las elecciones, el primer acto como gobernador será poder tratar esa deuda de Minas, porque no hay forma, es casi impagable.",1209.04,1216.2,"repite que su primer acto será ocuparse de la deuda del Estado.",{"idx":1600,"utterance_id":1601,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1602,"start_s":1603,"end_s":1604,"word_count":654,"topic_slug":1447,"topic_label":1448,"target_id":1464,"target_proposition":1465,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":1605,"indexable":173},232,"152329","Entonces el gobierno también tiene que tener esa sensibilidad; Lula necesita entender esto: aquí necesitamos hacer política pública. Les daré un ejemplo: la cuota que estamos pagando hoy, si esa cuota, al menos, el gobierno pudiera tomarla y devolverla al Estado como inversión en la propia infraestructura —hay varias carreteras federales aquí que son responsabilidad del gobierno federal— con diálogo, conversando, estoy seguro de que Lula hará eso por nosotros.",1216.24,1240.74,"propone usar parte de la prestación para inversiones y menciona carreteras federales.",{"idx":1607,"utterance_id":1608,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1609,"start_s":1610,"end_s":1611,"word_count":336,"indexable":73},233,"152330","Si no es Lula, si es Flávio Bolsonaro, si es Cury que está emergiendo ahora, si es el propio Renan, Renan me ha estado atacando de una forma irrespetuosa todo el tiempo.",1240.94,1248.98,{"idx":1613,"utterance_id":1614,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1615,"start_s":1616,"end_s":1617,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},234,"152331","Siempre traté a la gente del MBL con mucho respeto.",1249.42,1251.9,{"idx":1619,"utterance_id":1620,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1621,"start_s":1622,"end_s":1623,"word_count":195,"indexable":73},235,"152332","Renan me viene tratando de una manera muy irrespetuosa y no sé por qué motivo.",1252.22,1255.64,{"idx":1625,"utterance_id":1626,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1627,"start_s":1628,"end_s":1629,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},236,"152333","Pero no voy a guardar resentimientos, no voy a quedarme aquí deseando el mal para nadie.",1256.02,1259.4,{"idx":1631,"utterance_id":1632,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1633,"start_s":1634,"end_s":1635,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},237,"152334","No tengo ese tipo de cosas en mi corazón.",1259.68,1261.58,{"idx":1637,"utterance_id":1638,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1639,"start_s":1640,"end_s":1641,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},238,"152335","Cuando salgo de casa, salgo para sumar, no salgo para perjudicar a nadie.",1261.62,1264.12,{"idx":1643,"utterance_id":1644,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1645,"start_s":1646,"end_s":1647,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},239,"152336","Y si Renan también gana la elección, tendré humildad.",1264.46,1266.76,{"idx":1649,"utterance_id":1650,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1651,"start_s":1652,"end_s":1653,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},240,"152337","Renan, voy a conseguir su teléfono.",1266.88,1268.48,{"idx":1655,"utterance_id":1656,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1657,"start_s":1658,"end_s":1659,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},241,"152338","Respóndeme, por favor.",1268.68,1269.56,{"idx":1661,"utterance_id":1662,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1663,"start_s":1664,"end_s":1665,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},242,"152339","Vamos a tratar lo de Minas.",1269.86,1270.66,{"idx":1667,"utterance_id":1668,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1669,"start_s":1670,"end_s":1671,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},243,"152340","Cualquier candidato, sea Caiado o el propio Zema, que también fue gobernador aquí.",1270.86,1274.7,{"idx":23,"utterance_id":1673,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1674,"start_s":1675,"end_s":1676,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":1447,"topic_label":1448,"target_id":1464,"target_proposition":1465,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":1677,"indexable":173},"152341","Entonces, quien gane la elección, puede estar seguro de que yo estaré encima del tema, con respeto, para que podamos tratar sobre la deuda del Estado.",1275.06,1281.14,"asegura que tratará con respeto al vencedor para negociar la deuda.",{"idx":1679,"utterance_id":1680,"speaker_name":69,"text":1681,"start_s":1682,"end_s":1683,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},245,"152342","Senador, usted dice que la renegociación de la deuda del Estado con la Unión es una prioridad para usted.",1282.78,1287.4,{"idx":1685,"utterance_id":1686,"speaker_name":69,"text":1687,"start_s":1688,"end_s":1689,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},246,"152343","¿Ha pensado usted en quién sería su secretario de Hacienda?",1287.54,1290.06,{"idx":1691,"utterance_id":1692,"speaker_name":69,"text":1693,"start_s":1694,"end_s":1695,"word_count":311,"indexable":73},247,"152344","Una vez, en una entrevista que usted me dio, incluso cuando anunció que Falcão sería su vicepresidente, usted mencionó a Paulo Guedes, que fue ministro de Jair Bolsonaro.",1290.1,1298.24,{"idx":1697,"utterance_id":1698,"speaker_name":69,"text":1699,"start_s":1700,"end_s":1701,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},248,"152345","¿Quién será su secretario de Hacienda?",1298.32,1300,{"idx":1703,"utterance_id":1704,"speaker_name":69,"text":1705,"start_s":1706,"end_s":1707,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},249,"152346","¿Qué cartera deberían ocupar Medioli y ese alcalde de Betim que usted citó?",1300.3,1303.6,{"idx":1709,"utterance_id":1710,"speaker_name":69,"text":1711,"start_s":1712,"end_s":1713,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},250,"152347","¿Y quién es la funcionaria de educación que debería ser la secretaria de la cartera?",1303.62,1306.72,{"idx":1715,"utterance_id":1716,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1717,"start_s":1718,"end_s":1719,"word_count":118,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":1720,"target_proposition":1721,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":1409,"rationale":1722,"indexable":173},251,"152348","No, primero, Edilene, lo de la funcionaria de educación aún es un diálogo que voy a tener con los propios profesionales de la educación.",1309.96,1315.62,"8d494f6c-7e50-4d0a-b677-5243d4ccc66e","nombrar servidores de carrera capacitados para cargos de gestión pública","afirma que la secretaria será una mujer y funcionaria de carrera.",{"idx":1724,"utterance_id":1725,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1726,"start_s":1727,"end_s":1728,"word_count":279,"indexable":73},252,"152349","Así que voy a escuchar a los profesionales de la educación; estarán, creo que surgirán varios nombres, y sobre eso trabajaremos.",1316.08,1322.22,{"idx":1730,"utterance_id":1731,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1732,"start_s":1733,"end_s":1734,"word_count":203,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":1720,"target_proposition":1721,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":1735,"indexable":173},253,"152350","Pero ya me aseguré de dejar muy claro que será una mujer y será una funcionaria de carrera.",1322.54,1326.48,"repite que hará la elección entre funcionarias y escuchará a los profesionales.",{"idx":1737,"utterance_id":1738,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1739,"start_s":1740,"end_s":1741,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":1742,"target_proposition":1743,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":704,"rationale":1744,"indexable":173},254,"152351","Sobre la cuestión de la Secretaría de Hacienda, estoy concertando una reunión con el gobernador Tarcísio, porque Tarcísio, para mí, ni siquiera necesita presentación, ¿no?",1326.86,1333.8,"bd9bfe7c-18ae-4533-b12d-de4b665fa47f","consultar gobernadores\u002Fexpertos para indicar al secretario de Hacienda","dice que va a fijar una reunión con Tarcísio para pedir la indicación.",{"idx":1746,"utterance_id":1747,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1748,"start_s":1749,"end_s":1750,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},255,"152352","Está gobernando el Estado de São Paulo; la aceptación de Tarcísio hoy debe llegar a casi el 70%.",1334.08,1337.8,{"idx":376,"utterance_id":1752,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1753,"start_s":1754,"end_s":1755,"word_count":195,"indexable":73},"152353","Entonces, así, estoy aquí para aprender, para poder evolucionar, quiero aprender de quien sabe hacerlo.",1338.04,1342.42,{"idx":1757,"utterance_id":1758,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1759,"start_s":1760,"end_s":1761,"word_count":531,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":1762,"target_proposition":1763,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":1764,"indexable":173},257,"152354","Entonces voy a ir con Tarcísio y una de las orientaciones que quiero pedirle es una sugerencia: si él tiene dentro, ¿no?, puede ser aquí en Minas Gerais o incluso en São Paulo, un secretario de Hacienda que él pueda orientarme e indicarme; eso es extremadamente importante para nosotros, tanto la Secretaría de Hacienda como la Secretaría de Planificación.",1342.74,1358.64,"05fd617e-afcc-4a16-ae3f-445a1a6325c2","consultar gobernadores\u002Fexpertos para indicar al secretario de Planificación","quiere orientación para nombrar al secretario de planificación y hacienda.",{"idx":1766,"utterance_id":1767,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1768,"start_s":1769,"end_s":1770,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},258,"152355","La cuestión de Medioli: le hice esa invitación a él; para dejarlo bien claro, fue Cleitinho.",1359.26,1363.4,{"idx":1772,"utterance_id":1773,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1774,"start_s":1775,"end_s":1776,"word_count":504,"indexable":73},259,"152356","Está bien, lo voy a estudiar, además, Edilene, él es candidato a diputado estadual, está disputando la elección, así que si él gana la elección, no sé si usted querrá, en ese caso, dar continuidad a su mandato de diputado estadual, o si aceptará esta invitación; pero él puede ser secretario de gobierno, puede ser secretario de infraestructura, está en su corazón.",1363.84,1381.34,{"idx":1778,"utterance_id":1779,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1780,"start_s":1781,"end_s":1782,"word_count":15,"indexable":73},260,"152357","Le hice esa invitación y tengo la certeza de que si él gana la elección como diputado también, lo creo por el bien de Minas Gerais, por la experiencia administrativa que tiene.",1381.36,1388.6,{"idx":1784,"utterance_id":1785,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1786,"start_s":1787,"end_s":1788,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},261,"152358","Por haber sido alcalde de Petim reelecto, me va a ayudar mucho.",1388.98,1392.22,{"idx":1790,"utterance_id":1791,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1792,"start_s":1793,"end_s":1794,"word_count":80,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":527,"target_proposition":528,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":1795,"indexable":173},262,"152359","Y como les dije, quiero rodearme aquí de personas capacitadas.",1392.42,1395.38,"afirma querer rodearse de personas capacitadas y honestas.",{"idx":1797,"utterance_id":1798,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1799,"start_s":1800,"end_s":1801,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},263,"152360","Y lo más importante, no es sólo que sean capacitadas, ¿eh?",1395.68,1398.1,{"idx":1803,"utterance_id":1804,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1805,"start_s":1806,"end_s":1807,"word_count":279,"indexable":73},264,"152361","Personas honestas, personas que tienen buena intención en la administración pública, que entienden que el interés es colectivo y no es un interés individual, no es un interés para algunos.",1398.16,1406.76,{"idx":1809,"utterance_id":1810,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1811,"start_s":1812,"end_s":1813,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},265,"152362","El interés será únicamente por Minas Gerais.",1407.1,1408.82,{"idx":1815,"utterance_id":1816,"speaker_name":69,"text":1817,"start_s":1818,"end_s":1819,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},266,"152363","Ahora, candidato, muchas de sus propuestas implican un costo, un costo fiscal, un costo de recursos.",1409.48,1417.42,{"idx":1821,"utterance_id":1822,"speaker_name":69,"text":1823,"start_s":1824,"end_s":1825,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},267,"152364","Y noto que usted no señala necesariamente la fuente de ingresos para implementar esas propuestas.",1418.1,1425.5,{"idx":1827,"utterance_id":1828,"speaker_name":69,"text":1829,"start_s":1830,"end_s":1831,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},268,"152365","Aquí incluyo recomposición salarial para la policía, el fin de las filas y la propia cuestión del IPVA.",1425.56,1432.46,{"idx":1833,"utterance_id":1834,"speaker_name":69,"text":1835,"start_s":1836,"end_s":1837,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},269,"152366","¿De dónde pretende usted sacar recursos para implementar sus propuestas?",1432.48,1437.16,{"idx":1839,"utterance_id":1840,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1841,"start_s":1842,"end_s":1843,"word_count":563,"topic_slug":1844,"topic_label":1845,"target_id":1846,"target_proposition":1847,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1848,"indexable":173},270,"152367","Excelente pregunta, porque incluso aprobé una PEC aquí en el Senado, que siempre dice, Cleitinho es más fiscalizador, él muestra las denuncias, fiscaliza, pero yo conseguí... aprobar una PEC, ¿no?, que fue ahora a fin de año, que contempló especialmente a dos estados, Pernambuco y Minas Gerais, que son estados que cobraban IPVA de autos de hasta 50 años, incluso un auto de 60 años aquí en Minas Gerais pagaba IPVA.",1440.94,1467.22,"politica-fiscal-e-social","Política Fiscal y Social","ba480bdd-a3d0-4d4a-b06f-58bf554caa17","eximir a vehículos con más de 20 años del IPVA","dice haber aprobado una PEC que limita el cobro del IPVA a vehículos de hasta 20 años.",{"idx":1850,"utterance_id":1851,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1852,"start_s":1853,"end_s":1854,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},271,"152368","Otros estados ya tienen, ¿no?, uno es de 10, otro de 15, nosotros pusimos este límite de 20 años.",1467.62,1471.92,{"idx":1856,"utterance_id":1857,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1858,"start_s":1859,"end_s":1860,"word_count":203,"topic_slug":1844,"topic_label":1845,"target_id":1846,"target_proposition":1847,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":704,"rationale":1861,"indexable":173},272,"152369","Entonces Minas Gerais tuvo ahora una, fue contemplada ahora, que en caso de vehículos con más de 20 años ya no pagan IPVA.",1472.3,1478.16,"explica que los vehículos de más de 20 años ya no pagarán IPVA y celebra la medida.",{"idx":1863,"utterance_id":1864,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1865,"start_s":1866,"end_s":1867,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},273,"152370","Esas personas... Aquí en Minas Gerais hubo 4 millones de vehículos que este año no van a pagar.",1478.56,1483.28,{"idx":1869,"utterance_id":1870,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1871,"start_s":1872,"end_s":1873,"word_count":348,"indexable":73},274,"152371","Entonces, quiero lanzarles aquí un desafío, parece que, al sacar de la recaudación ahora, va a dar, creo que hasta Matheus dijo eso, que si no me equivoco va a dar 1.000 millones de reales, ¿no?",1483.64,1492.68,{"idx":1875,"utterance_id":1876,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1877,"start_s":1878,"end_s":1879,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},275,"152372","Que el Estado dejará de recaudar.",1492.7,1494.28,{"idx":1881,"utterance_id":1882,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1883,"start_s":1884,"end_s":1885,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},276,"152373","Les garantizo que el Estado no dejará de recaudar.",1494.68,1496.8,{"idx":1887,"utterance_id":1888,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1889,"start_s":1890,"end_s":1891,"word_count":120,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":32,"target_id":1892,"target_proposition":1893,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1894,"indexable":173},277,"152374","Voy a darles un ejemplo simple.",1497.14,1498.56,"18ed658a-239d-496d-8131-8cebab951644","estimular la economía mediante la reducción del impuesto sobre la renta para trabajadores","argumenta que el dinero no se guardará y se reinvertirá en la economía.",{"idx":1896,"utterance_id":1897,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1898,"start_s":1899,"end_s":1900,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},278,"152375","Tenemos que dejar de pensar que cuando quitamos un impuesto, la persona va a tomar ese dinero y lo va a guardar en su bolsillo.",1498.8,1504.48,{"idx":1902,"utterance_id":1903,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1904,"start_s":1905,"end_s":1906,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},279,"152376","El trabajador no es tacaño como algunos multimillonarios, no.",1505.44,1509.32,{"idx":1908,"utterance_id":1909,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1910,"start_s":1911,"end_s":1912,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},280,"152377","El trabajador, él toma... Voy a darte un ejemplo.",1509.56,1511.5,{"idx":1914,"utterance_id":1915,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1916,"start_s":1917,"end_s":1918,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},281,"152378","que me pasó a mí.",1511.54,1512.38,{"idx":1920,"utterance_id":1921,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1922,"start_s":1923,"end_s":1924,"word_count":336,"indexable":73},282,"152379","Cuando hice eso en enero, cuando un trabajador allá en Minas Gerais fue a pagar su IPVA, un Palio de R$ 1.995,00 con valor de R$ 800,00, me mandó un mensaje en Instagram.",1512.8,1521.7,{"idx":1926,"utterance_id":1927,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1928,"start_s":1929,"end_s":1930,"word_count":252,"indexable":73},283,"152380","Me dijo: 'Cleitinho, quiero agradecerte, porque iba a pagar ese IPVA ahora, no tendría dinero para comprar pañales para mi hija.'",1522.06,1528.38,{"idx":1932,"utterance_id":1933,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1934,"start_s":1935,"end_s":1936,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},284,"152381","Cogí ese dinero y compré pañales.",1528.88,1531.14,{"idx":1938,"utterance_id":1939,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1940,"start_s":1941,"end_s":1942,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},285,"152382","Él no guardó ese dinero en el cajón, tomó ese dinero y lo inyectó de nuevo en la economía.",1531.46,1535.52,{"idx":1944,"utterance_id":1945,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1946,"start_s":1947,"end_s":1948,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},286,"152383","Entonces les lanzo un desafío aquí.",1535.78,1538.08,{"idx":1950,"utterance_id":1951,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1952,"start_s":1953,"end_s":1954,"word_count":43,"indexable":73},287,"152384","Les garantizo que esos 1.000 millones que dicen que el Estado dejará de recaudar, el Estado recaudará más, no dejará de recaudar.",1538.38,1544.24,{"idx":1956,"utterance_id":1957,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1958,"start_s":1959,"end_s":1960,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":1844,"topic_label":1845,"target_id":1961,"target_proposition":1962,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":1409,"rationale":1963,"indexable":173},288,"152385","Y en esa situación, tanto de la recomposición como incluso de esta cuestión del IPVA, el Estado dejó de recaudar con renuncias fiscales casi... miles de millones de reales.",1544.52,1552.44,"7d5cf83a-81cb-406c-b2d4-12f1d8689416","revisar y transparentar enmiendas parlamentarias y beneficios fiscales","exige contrapartida y transparencia en las renuncias fiscales.",{"idx":1965,"utterance_id":1966,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1967,"start_s":1968,"end_s":1969,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},289,"152386","¿Yo estoy en contra de la renuncia fiscal?",1552.7,1553.94,{"idx":1971,"utterance_id":1972,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":994,"start_s":1973,"end_s":1974,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},290,"152387",1554.18,1554.42,{"idx":1976,"utterance_id":1977,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1978,"start_s":1979,"end_s":1980,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},291,"152388","Quiero saber cuál es la contraparte.",1555.06,1556.46,{"idx":29,"utterance_id":1982,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1983,"start_s":1984,"end_s":1985,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},"152389","No quiero dejar la renuncia fiscal en sigilo.",1556.86,1558.64,{"idx":1987,"utterance_id":1988,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1989,"start_s":1990,"end_s":1991,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},293,"152390","El principio de la administración pública se llama transparencia.",1559.42,1561.62,{"idx":454,"utterance_id":1993,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":1994,"start_s":1995,"end_s":1996,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},"152391","¿Cuál es el motivo de poner la renuncia fiscal en sigilo?",1561.88,1564.7,{"idx":1998,"utterance_id":1999,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2000,"start_s":2001,"end_s":2002,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},295,"152392","¿Quién está siendo beneficiado?",1565.1,1566.92,{"idx":2004,"utterance_id":2005,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2006,"start_s":2007,"end_s":2008,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},296,"152393","Entonces vamos a mirar renuncia por renuncia, mirar cada empresa... ¿Cuál contrapartida?",1567.18,1571.94,{"idx":2010,"utterance_id":2011,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2012,"start_s":2013,"end_s":2014,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},297,"152394","¿Qué generación de empleo?",1572.02,1572.98,{"idx":2016,"utterance_id":2017,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2018,"start_s":2019,"end_s":2020,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},298,"152395","Si no está dando contrapartida ni generación de empleo, va a pagar.",1573.22,1576.32,{"idx":2022,"utterance_id":2023,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2024,"start_s":2025,"end_s":2026,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},299,"152396","Es de allí de donde voy a sacar para poder hacer eso.",1576.5,1578.66,{"idx":2028,"utterance_id":2029,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2030,"start_s":2031,"end_s":2032,"word_count":127,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":2033,"target_proposition":2034,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":2035,"indexable":173},300,"152397","Y de otras, podemos también recaudar más.",1578.86,1580.98,"d0891e1f-ece7-4037-8f02-80f8e6797be7","aumentar la eficiencia de la máquina pública en al menos 1% anual","defiende hacer al Estado eficiente para recaudar más.",{"idx":2037,"utterance_id":2038,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2039,"start_s":2040,"end_s":2041,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},301,"152398","Tengo que hacer que el Estado aquí sea eficiente.",1581.1,1583.8,{"idx":2043,"utterance_id":2044,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2045,"start_s":2046,"end_s":2047,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},302,"152399","Tengo que entender aquí que el Estado es fuente de gasto.",1584.18,1586.46,{"idx":34,"utterance_id":2049,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2050,"start_s":2051,"end_s":2052,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},"152400","¿Quién es fuente de riqueza?",1586.76,1587.76,{"idx":2054,"utterance_id":2055,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2056,"start_s":2057,"end_s":2058,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},304,"152401","Que es el emprendedor.",1587.8,1588.54,{"idx":2060,"utterance_id":2061,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2062,"start_s":2063,"end_s":2064,"word_count":113,"topic_slug":2065,"topic_label":2066,"target_id":2067,"target_proposition":2068,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":2069,"indexable":73},305,"152402","Tengo que acabar con la burocracia.",1588.82,1590.32,"desburocratizacao-e-digitalizacao","Desburocratización y digitalización","1a481a34-6fba-4301-b367-be7c85e00d5f","desburocratizar el Estado","declara varias veces que necesita 'acabar com a burocracia'.",{"idx":2071,"utterance_id":2072,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2073,"start_s":2074,"end_s":2075,"word_count":195,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":32,"target_id":2076,"target_proposition":2077,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":2078,"indexable":173},306,"152403","Tengo que valorar la mayor fuente de riqueza aquí, que es el emprendedor aquí en Minas Gerais.",1590.58,1593.98,"02a5ab01-72ee-44f8-a31d-cdb8c724fdd1","valorar y apoyar a los emprendedores de Minas Gerais","dice que la mayor fuente de riqueza es el emprendedor y que hay que valorarlo.",{"idx":2080,"utterance_id":2081,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2082,"start_s":2083,"end_s":2084,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},307,"152404","Es el empresario.",1594.22,1594.96,{"idx":2086,"utterance_id":2087,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2088,"start_s":2089,"end_s":2090,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},308,"152405","Son las industrias.",1595.18,1596.28,{"idx":2092,"utterance_id":2093,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2094,"start_s":2095,"end_s":2096,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},309,"152406","Y eso es lo que quiero hacer.",1596.5,1597.42,{"idx":2098,"utterance_id":2099,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2100,"start_s":2101,"end_s":2102,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},310,"152407","Acabar con la burocracia.",1597.66,1598.84,{"idx":2104,"utterance_id":2105,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2106,"start_s":2107,"end_s":2108,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},311,"152408","No dificultar para facilitar.",1599.1,1600.5,{"idx":2110,"utterance_id":2111,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2112,"start_s":2113,"end_s":2114,"word_count":316,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":2115,"target_proposition":2116,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":2117,"indexable":173},312,"152409","Hemos visto también varias denuncias ahora sobre la cuestión ambiental, que las mineras estaban pagando sobornos a algunos, incluso a políticos, que están incluso siendo imputados ahora, recibieron casi 8 millones de reales en sobornos, que dieron un lucro para esas empresas de casi 20.000 millones.",1601.34,1619.18,"a76d77ef-8251-40cc-abc2-eb6853eda01d","investigar y castigar prácticas de corrupción en la administración pública","afirma que el esquema de sobornos en mineras 'vai acabar'.",{"idx":2119,"utterance_id":2120,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2121,"start_s":2122,"end_s":2123,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},313,"152410","Esto aquí en Minas Gerais se va a acabar.",1619.58,1620.92,{"idx":2125,"utterance_id":2126,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2127,"start_s":2128,"end_s":2129,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":1844,"topic_label":1845,"target_id":2130,"target_proposition":2131,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":1409,"rationale":2132,"indexable":173},314,"152411","La hacienda estatal, quiero incorporar inteligencia artificial en la hacienda estatal, estructurarla, porque queremos saber quién está haciendo renuncias.",1621.42,1628.68,"5d878937-4c9d-4adf-ae59-896a8a097c3b","implementar inteligencia artificial en la administración tributaria estatal","quiere poner IA en la recaudación estatal para identificar renuncias.",{"idx":2134,"utterance_id":2135,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2136,"start_s":2137,"end_s":2138,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},315,"152412","Quiero saber quiénes son esos grandes que están haciendo eso.",1629.08,1631.4,{"idx":2140,"utterance_id":2141,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2142,"start_s":2143,"end_s":2144,"word_count":195,"indexable":73},316,"152413","¿Por qué el pequeño productor tiene que pagar sus impuestos rigurosamente y el grande deja de pagarlos?",1631.42,1637.28,{"idx":2146,"utterance_id":2147,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2148,"start_s":2149,"end_s":2150,"word_count":225,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":32,"target_id":2151,"target_proposition":2152,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":704,"rationale":2153,"indexable":173},317,"152414","Entonces hay manera de recaudar, basta salir del aire acondicionado, de la silla de la ciudad administrativa e ir tras la inversión para que podamos aumentar la recaudación del Estado.",1637.48,1646.14,"f0797bc5-499e-4c16-9c67-d67cf35ed0e2","atraer y retener inversiones y grandes fortunas en Brasil","defiende salir de la ciudad administrativa e ir en busca de inversiones.",{"idx":2155,"utterance_id":2156,"speaker_name":69,"text":2157,"start_s":2158,"end_s":2159,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},318,"152415","Candidato, usted mencionó que quiere conversar con el gobernador de São Paulo, Tarcísio de Freitas, respecto a la designación para la Secretaria de Hacienda.",1646.86,1655.82,{"idx":2161,"utterance_id":2162,"speaker_name":69,"text":2163,"start_s":2164,"end_s":2165,"word_count":354,"indexable":73},319,"152416","Y me acordé de otro punto, incluso Tarcísio dijo aquí en entrevista a CNN que uno de los puntos en los que se equivocó y corrigió después fue posicionarse en contra del uso de cámaras corporales por la Policía Militar.",1656.3,1669.72,{"idx":2167,"utterance_id":2168,"speaker_name":69,"text":2169,"start_s":2170,"end_s":2171,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},320,"152417","Usted ya se ha posicionado en contra.",1670.06,1671.88,{"idx":2173,"utterance_id":2174,"speaker_name":69,"text":2175,"start_s":2176,"end_s":2177,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},321,"152418","de ese equipo.",1672.26,1673.22,{"idx":2179,"utterance_id":2180,"speaker_name":69,"text":2181,"start_s":2182,"end_s":2183,"word_count":366,"indexable":73},322,"152419","Quisiera escuchar de usted por qué está en contra de eso y si también está dispuesto a conversar con el gobernador Tassilo de Freitas sobre este tema y con especialistas en seguridad que han defendido el uso de ese equipo.",1673.5,1685.94,{"idx":2185,"utterance_id":2186,"speaker_name":69,"text":2187,"start_s":2188,"end_s":2189,"word_count":214,"indexable":73},323,"152420","Ya sea para cohibir eventuales abusos e irregularidades de los policías, ya sea para comprobar con imágenes que han actuado dentro de la legalidad, siguiendo el manual y los entrenamientos que reciben al enfrentar a un criminal o una situación de riesgo para la propia vida del policía.",1686.4,1702.28,{"idx":2191,"utterance_id":2192,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2193,"start_s":2194,"end_s":2195,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},324,"152421","Con seguridad.",1705.94,1706.52,{"idx":2197,"utterance_id":2198,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2199,"start_s":2200,"end_s":2201,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},325,"152422","Uno de los motivos por los que voy a conversar con Tarcísio también sería ese.",1706.78,1709.24,{"idx":2203,"utterance_id":2204,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2205,"start_s":2206,"end_s":2207,"word_count":60,"indexable":73},326,"152423","Yo, como ser humano, como cualquier otro, nunca voy a tener problema en retroceder en una opinión o en alguna decisión.",1709.64,1714.66,{"idx":2209,"utterance_id":2210,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2211,"start_s":2212,"end_s":2213,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},327,"152424","El que se cree que lo sabe todo, no sabe nada.",1715.28,1717.02,{"idx":2215,"utterance_id":2216,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2217,"start_s":2218,"end_s":2219,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},328,"152425","Entonces, no tengo problema con eso.",1717.06,1718.46,{"idx":2221,"utterance_id":2222,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2223,"start_s":2224,"end_s":2225,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},329,"152426","Ahora, hubo una cuestión de interpretación aquí que dejé bien claro: lo que vale para Chico debe valer para Francisco.",1718.48,1722.5,{"idx":2227,"utterance_id":2228,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2229,"start_s":2230,"end_s":2231,"word_count":279,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2232,"target_proposition":2233,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":2234,"rationale":2235,"indexable":173},330,"152427","Lo que quise decir es lo siguiente: si la policía militar tiene que usar, primero voy a escuchar a la tropa, voy a escuchar al comandante.",1722.58,1727.96,"6ab27ad3-1602-41bf-82be-24e22ecd7765","implementar el uso de cámaras corporales en policías",0.78,"dice que escuchará a la tropa y que si es necesario 'tudo bem'.",{"idx":2237,"utterance_id":2238,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2239,"start_s":2240,"end_s":2241,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},331,"152428","Si las acciones requieren una cámara, está bien, no hay ningún problema.",1728.26,1731.28,{"idx":2243,"utterance_id":2244,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2245,"start_s":2246,"end_s":2247,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},332,"152429","Solo creo que todo el poder público, principalmente los agentes políticos, deberían tener una cámara.",1731.64,1736.2,{"idx":2249,"utterance_id":2250,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2251,"start_s":2252,"end_s":2253,"word_count":195,"topic_slug":604,"topic_label":605,"target_id":2254,"target_proposition":2255,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":704,"rationale":2256,"indexable":173},333,"152430","Yo, como gobernador, lo que también quiero hacer es hacer un Big Brother dentro de la ciudad administrativa.",1736.54,1740.92,"893ab8ee-829d-4be9-9765-44fd4d4834c7","implementar tecnologías digitales en el Senado para aumentar la transparencia de los trabajos del Senado Federal","defiende cámaras en la Asamblea y en el Congreso Nacional para mayor transparencia.",{"idx":2258,"utterance_id":2259,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2260,"start_s":2261,"end_s":2262,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},334,"152431","La Asamblea Legislativa también, el Congreso Nacional, deberían tener cámara.",1741.26,1744.84,{"idx":2264,"utterance_id":2265,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2266,"start_s":2267,"end_s":2268,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},335,"152432","Deberíamos saber cómo los políticos negocian la cuestión de las enmiendas, el presupuesto secreto.",1744.86,1750.26,{"idx":2270,"utterance_id":2271,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2272,"start_s":2273,"end_s":2274,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},336,"152433","¿Se ha imaginado a la población brasileña sabiendo eso?",1750.32,1752.46,{"idx":2276,"utterance_id":2277,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2278,"start_s":2279,"end_s":2280,"word_count":195,"indexable":73},337,"152434","¿Se ha imaginado a un trabajador, a un productor rural que produce su queso, su dulce de leche allí?",1752.48,1758.72,{"idx":2282,"utterance_id":2283,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2284,"start_s":2285,"end_s":2286,"word_count":252,"indexable":73},338,"152435","¿Hay un inspector del IMA, hay un inspector de la Vigilancia Sanitaria que va y lo humilla, toma su producto y lo tira a la basura?",1759.04,1764.56,{"idx":2288,"utterance_id":2289,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2290,"start_s":2291,"end_s":2292,"word_count":748,"topic_slug":2293,"topic_label":2294,"target_id":2295,"target_proposition":2296,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":2297,"indexable":173},339,"152436","Eso es lo que dije, fue en ese sentido que lo dije: si la policía tiene que —porque ella aborda— tiene que usar, entonces esos inspectores del IMA, esos inspectores de la vigilancia sanitaria, que también abordan a un trabajador, a un ciudadano de bien, a un tipo que está contribuyendo al Estado, es una fuente de riqueza, también tienen que tener una cámara para mostrar cómo abordan a esas personas, cómo tratan a esas personas, cómo están cumpliendo la ley que el Estado, el municipio hizo; fue en ese sentido que quise decir.",1765.18,1787.38,"responsabilizacao-publica","Responsabilización Pública","6544c79e-c8b4-49c0-8d52-119ceecf5cbb","instalar cámaras para inspectores y agentes de inspección","propone cámaras para los inspectores del IMA y la vigilancia sanitaria para registrar las intervenciones.",{"idx":2299,"utterance_id":2300,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2301,"start_s":2302,"end_s":2303,"word_count":311,"indexable":73},340,"152437","Y yo también quería mucho ahora, eso es lo que quiero tratar también en Minas Gerais, porque lo que veo en la cuestión de la seguridad es la inseguridad de la población.",1787.8,1797.76,{"idx":2305,"utterance_id":2306,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2307,"start_s":2308,"end_s":2309,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},341,"152438","La población hoy está extremadamente insegura.",1798.12,1799.94,{"idx":2311,"utterance_id":2312,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2313,"start_s":2314,"end_s":2315,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},342,"152439","Tiene miedo de salir de casa incluso por el robo de su celular.",1800.28,1803.22,{"idx":2317,"utterance_id":2318,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2319,"start_s":2320,"end_s":2321,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},343,"152440","Entonces lo que quiero es revertir eso.",1803.58,1805.22,{"idx":2323,"utterance_id":2324,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2325,"start_s":2326,"end_s":2327,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},344,"152441","¿Ustedes entraron en esta cuestión de las cámaras?",1805.24,1806.72,{"idx":2329,"utterance_id":2330,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2331,"start_s":2332,"end_s":2333,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2334,"target_proposition":2335,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":2336,"indexable":173},345,"152442","Quiero invertir totalmente en cámaras inteligentes dentro de Minas Gerais, en el interior, para que hagamos un big brother del crimen.",1807.02,1812.44,"f0d789d2-0a93-432e-877b-7614459971b9","utilizar cámaras inteligentes integradas a la inteligencia pública para aumentar detenciones en flagrante","anuncia inversión en 'câmera inteligente' y 'big brother do crime' en Minas.",{"idx":2338,"utterance_id":2339,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2340,"start_s":2341,"end_s":2342,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},346,"152443","Todo delincuente puede estar seguro de que será monitoreado.",1812.82,1817.58,{"idx":2344,"utterance_id":2345,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2346,"start_s":2347,"end_s":2348,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},347,"152444","Será él quien sienta inseguridad.",1817.92,1819.84,{"idx":2350,"utterance_id":2351,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2352,"start_s":2353,"end_s":2354,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},348,"152445","Será él quien piense diez veces antes de salir de casa y pensar: 'voy a cometer un delito'.",1819.9,1823.66,{"idx":2356,"utterance_id":2357,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2358,"start_s":2359,"end_s":2360,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},349,"152446","Le va a ir mal.",1824.12,1825.2,{"idx":2362,"utterance_id":2363,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2364,"start_s":2365,"end_s":2366,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},350,"152447","Entonces lo que quiero hacer también no es solo en los policías, no.",1825.48,1827.82,{"idx":2368,"utterance_id":2369,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2370,"start_s":2371,"end_s":2372,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},351,"152448","Es invertir.",1828.1,1828.94,{"idx":2374,"utterance_id":2375,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2376,"start_s":2377,"end_s":2378,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},352,"152449","Allí dentro del Congreso Nacional tenemos la bancada, ¿no?",1829.44,1831.76,{"idx":2380,"utterance_id":2381,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2382,"start_s":2383,"end_s":2384,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},353,"152450","Que siempre enviamos enmiendas para seguridad pública.",1832,1834,{"idx":2386,"utterance_id":2387,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2388,"start_s":2389,"end_s":2390,"word_count":348,"indexable":73},354,"152451","Quiero conversar tanto con los diputados federales como con senadores para que invirtamos en... Toda inversión el año que viene en cámaras, para colocar en todo Minas Gerais, para hacer el big brother del crimen.",1834.26,1843.22,{"idx":2392,"utterance_id":2393,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2394,"start_s":2395,"end_s":2396,"word_count":203,"indexable":73},355,"152452","Pueden estar seguros de que vamos a tener cámaras por todas partes para monitorear a cada delincuente.",1843.54,1847.38,{"idx":2398,"utterance_id":2399,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2400,"start_s":2401,"end_s":2402,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2334,"target_proposition":2335,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":704,"rationale":2403,"indexable":173},356,"152453","Ya no va a ser la población la que tenga inseguridad, no.",1847.62,1849.72,"Reafirma que la inversión en cámaras reducirá la inseguridad de la población.",{"idx":2405,"utterance_id":2406,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2407,"start_s":2408,"end_s":2409,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},357,"152454","Quien va a tener inseguridad a la hora de intentar hacer daño al pueblo será el delincuente.",1849.98,1853.82,{"idx":2411,"utterance_id":2412,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2413,"start_s":2414,"end_s":2415,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},358,"152455","Y, por supuesto, conversando con la tropa, conversando con el comandante, y si la cámara es necesaria, no hay ningún problema.",1854.12,1859.18,{"idx":2417,"utterance_id":2418,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2419,"start_s":2420,"end_s":2421,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},359,"152456","Estoy aquí para seguir principalmente lo que quiere el pueblo y lo que quiere la policía.",1859.54,1863.54,{"idx":2423,"utterance_id":2424,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2425,"start_s":2426,"end_s":2427,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},360,"152457","Porque quien está en la calle combatiendo al delincuente es la policía.",1863.56,1866.04,{"idx":2429,"utterance_id":2430,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2431,"start_s":2432,"end_s":2433,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},361,"152458","Es ella la que sabe la realidad.",1866.56,1867.48,{"idx":2435,"utterance_id":2436,"speaker_name":69,"text":2437,"start_s":2438,"end_s":2439,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},362,"152459","Edilene?",1867.82,1868.26,{"idx":2441,"utterance_id":2442,"speaker_name":69,"text":2443,"start_s":2444,"end_s":2445,"word_count":492,"indexable":73},363,"152460","Senador, dos de los grandes problemas dentro de la seguridad pública hoy son el avance del crimen organizado, que ya ha llegado incluso al interior de Minas Gerais, y también el avance de la violencia contra la mujer, incluidos los feminicidios, que un candidato al Senado por Minas Gerais del Partido Novo ha afirmado en varias entrevistas que es un tipo penal que no existe.",1869.48,1887.1,{"idx":2447,"utterance_id":2448,"speaker_name":69,"text":2449,"start_s":2450,"end_s":2451,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},364,"152461","¿Cuáles son las propuestas concretas y la posición de usted respecto a estas dos agendas?",1887.5,1892.16,{"idx":2453,"utterance_id":2454,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2455,"start_s":2456,"end_s":2457,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2458,"target_proposition":2459,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":2460,"indexable":173},365,"152462","Entonces, la cuestión de la facción, vamos a fiscalizar esos retenes, ¿no?",1895.84,1899.44,"554b78d9-4efe-4a8b-90b3-63d8efd356b8","reducir homicidios y combatir el crimen organizado","Propone fiscalizar barreras y actuar en el interior contra las facciones.",{"idx":2462,"utterance_id":2463,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2464,"start_s":2465,"end_s":2466,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},366,"152463","Incluso usted habló del interior, Edilene, incluso Araguari, estuve allí con el alcalde.",1899.68,1903.68,{"idx":2468,"utterance_id":2469,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2470,"start_s":2471,"end_s":2472,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2473,"target_proposition":2474,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":2475,"indexable":173},367,"152464","Entonces nos corresponde también hacer una inversión junto con la policía civil, la policía militar, en materia de inteligencia artificial, para poder monitorear a todos esos delincuentes.",1904.06,1911.98,"0259c192-e34e-422e-8a36-24829a21726c","adoptar inteligencia artificial de última generación para la seguridad pública","Propone inversión con policía civil y militar en IA para monitorear vagabundos.",{"idx":2477,"utterance_id":2478,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2479,"start_s":2480,"end_s":2481,"word_count":316,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2482,"target_proposition":2483,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":2484,"indexable":173},368,"152465","Creo que también tenemos que separar la prisión, tenemos que poner a las personas que realmente quieren cambiar de vida, quieren salir del crimen, salir de la cárcel, o a esa gente faccionada; a esa gente hay que mantenerla en una prisión separada.",1912.2,1925.1,"eed929ab-e243-4b3b-b927-a8a7638a3aa4","separar presos faccionados en unidades penitenciarias distintas","Propone explícitamente separar a los faccionados en presidios distintos ('tem que colocar... presídio separado').",{"idx":2486,"utterance_id":2487,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2488,"start_s":2489,"end_s":2490,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2482,"target_proposition":2483,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":2491,"indexable":173},369,"152466","El primer paso que tenemos que dar es eso.",1925.58,1926.96,"Reitera que eso es 'o primeiro passo' a ser hecho (apoyo directo a la medida).",{"idx":2493,"utterance_id":2494,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2495,"start_s":2496,"end_s":2497,"word_count":107,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2498,"target_proposition":2499,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":2500,"indexable":73},370,"152467","Y dejar a la policía bien clara.",1927.24,1928.44,"04639d70-cfd3-4a49-95f4-bf58d96a0144","delegar la organización de las operaciones de seguridad a las fuerzas policiales","Declara que 'quem tem autonomia vai ser a polícia', defendiendo la autonomía policial.",{"idx":2502,"utterance_id":2503,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2504,"start_s":2505,"end_s":2506,"word_count":113,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2498,"target_proposition":2499,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":2507,"indexable":73},371,"152468","Quien tendrá autonomía será la policía.",1928.46,1930.2,"Afirma directamente que la policía tendrá autonomía (apoyo explícito).",{"idx":2509,"utterance_id":2510,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2511,"start_s":2512,"end_s":2513,"word_count":203,"indexable":73},372,"152469","Y espero que quienes me están viendo aquí, que a veces tienen un poco de hipocresía y demagogia.",1930.56,1934.88,{"idx":2515,"utterance_id":2516,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2517,"start_s":2518,"end_s":2519,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},373,"152470","en esta situación, cuando hablamos, me canso de decir esto, no quiero que una madre de un policía... llore.",1934.9,1940.88,{"idx":2521,"utterance_id":2522,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2523,"start_s":2524,"end_s":2525,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},374,"152471","No quiero que un ciudadano de bien llore.",1940.98,1943.58,{"idx":2527,"utterance_id":2528,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2529,"start_s":2530,"end_s":2531,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},375,"152472","La madre de un ciudadano de bien, de un trabajador, llore.",1943.76,1945.68,{"idx":2533,"utterance_id":2534,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2535,"start_s":2536,"end_s":2537,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},376,"152473","Tampoco quiero que la madre del criminal llore, porque soy cristiano.",1945.9,1949.22,{"idx":2539,"utterance_id":2540,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2541,"start_s":2542,"end_s":2543,"word_count":252,"indexable":73},377,"152474","Pero entre la madre del ciudadano de bien, y la madre del policía, y la madre de ese bandido, que llore la madre del bandido.",1949.66,1956.1,{"idx":2545,"utterance_id":2546,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2547,"start_s":2548,"end_s":2549,"word_count":195,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2550,"target_proposition":2551,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":1338,"rationale":2552,"indexable":173},378,"152475","Entonces la policía tendrá toda la autonomía para barrer a esa gente faccionada de allí de Minas Gerais.",1956.12,1961.08,"e461beda-091d-4526-be74-53f84488b3bd","investigar y responsabilizar a integrantes de facciones criminales","Habla de dar autonomía a la policía 'varrer essa turma de faccionados' (apoyando la represión).",{"idx":2554,"utterance_id":2555,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2556,"start_s":2557,"end_s":2558,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},379,"152476","Que se vayan al quinto de los infiernos a tener su lugar.",1961.34,1963.52,{"idx":2560,"utterance_id":2561,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2562,"start_s":2563,"end_s":2564,"word_count":120,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2550,"target_proposition":2551,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":2565,"indexable":173},380,"152477","Aquí en Minas Gerais, aquí es tolerancia cero.",1964.02,1965.84,"Declara 'aqui é tolerância zero', apoyando una postura represiva contra las facciones.",{"idx":2567,"utterance_id":2568,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2569,"start_s":2570,"end_s":2571,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},381,"152478","Y hay un detalle, ¿eh?",1966.08,1967.2,{"idx":2573,"utterance_id":2574,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2575,"start_s":2576,"end_s":2577,"word_count":195,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2550,"target_proposition":2551,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":2578,"indexable":173},382,"152479","Ahí es donde tenemos que investigar también, poner a la Policía Federal, lo que haga falta.",1967.94,1971.64,"Pide investigar y 'colocar a Polícia Federal', defendiendo acción investigativa y punitiva.",{"idx":2580,"utterance_id":2581,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2582,"start_s":2583,"end_s":2584,"word_count":195,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":2585,"target_proposition":2586,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":2587,"rationale":2588,"indexable":173},383,"152480","La cuestión de la facción solo puede seguir y crecer porque siempre hay política en medio también.",1973.14,1978.92,"82b9ffac-3d30-4489-9767-f840737c8016","investigar y castigar acuerdos entre autoridades y organizaciones criminales",0.84,"Atribuye el crecimiento de la facción a la 'política no meio' y pide señalar a los culpables.",{"idx":2590,"utterance_id":2591,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2592,"start_s":2593,"end_s":2594,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},384,"152481","Siempre hay política en medio de esta patiferrería.",1979.34,1981.48,{"idx":2596,"utterance_id":2597,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2598,"start_s":2599,"end_s":2600,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},385,"152482","Siempre, puedes... Allí en Río de Janeiro está la prueba de eso.",1981.84,1983.96,{"idx":2602,"utterance_id":2603,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2604,"start_s":2605,"end_s":2606,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},386,"152483","Mira cómo está la situación.",1984.28,1985.46,{"idx":2608,"utterance_id":2609,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2610,"start_s":2611,"end_s":2612,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},387,"152484","Siempre hay política infiltrada en medio de esa gente.",1985.84,1987.74,{"idx":2614,"utterance_id":2615,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2616,"start_s":2617,"end_s":2618,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},388,"152485","Entonces nos corresponde también señalar con el dedo, porque la política forma parte.",1987.78,1992.08,{"idx":2620,"utterance_id":2621,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2622,"start_s":2623,"end_s":2624,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},389,"152486","Si la facción crece cada día más, es porque la política también lo permite.",1992.3,1995.82,{"idx":2626,"utterance_id":2627,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2628,"start_s":2629,"end_s":2630,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":2585,"target_proposition":2586,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":2631,"indexable":173},390,"152487","Es porque hay muchos empresarios grandes también, que no voy a mencionar aquí los nombres allá en São Paulo, que invierten en esa gente.",1995.84,2002.7,"Acusa a empresarios de invertir en facciones y pide investigación ('não vou citar o nome').",{"idx":2633,"utterance_id":2634,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2635,"start_s":2636,"end_s":2637,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2550,"target_proposition":2551,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":2638,"indexable":173},391,"152488","Entonces es la Policía Federal la que tiene que investigar y prender a todos.",2002.98,2005.32,"Dice que la Policía Federal debe 'investigar e prender todo mundo' (apoyando la represión).",{"idx":2640,"utterance_id":2641,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2642,"start_s":2643,"end_s":2644,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},392,"152489","Será tolerancia cero.",2005.74,2006.8,{"idx":2646,"utterance_id":2647,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2648,"start_s":2649,"end_s":2650,"word_count":151,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2653,"target_proposition":2654,"stance":238,"stance_confidence":2655,"rationale":2656,"indexable":73},393,"152490","Sobre la cuestión del feminicidio, creo que es un tema sumamente importante.",2007.04,2010.9,"igualdade-de-genero","Igualdad de género","b0e95ed6-f3b9-4a57-86b7-ebfd6c228946","reducir los feminicidios de niñas menores de 18 años",0.6,"Califica el tema de 'extremamente importante' sin proponer una acción concreta en esa frase.",{"idx":2658,"utterance_id":2659,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2660,"start_s":2661,"end_s":2662,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},394,"152491","que tenemos que decir esto, y lo digo todos los días aquí.",2011.4,2013.6,{"idx":2664,"utterance_id":2665,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2666,"start_s":2667,"end_s":2668,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2669,"target_proposition":2670,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":1338,"rationale":2671,"indexable":173},395,"152492","El primer paso que tenemos que dar es concienciar.",2014.32,2016.54,"78399760-9c43-4e77-ad0d-692b06356a57","promover campañas de concienciación y educación sobre violencia de género en las escuelas","Declara 'o primeiro passo... é conscientizar' (defiende acción educativa explícitamente).",{"idx":2673,"utterance_id":2674,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2675,"start_s":2676,"end_s":2677,"word_count":93,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2669,"target_proposition":2670,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":2678,"rationale":2679,"indexable":173},396,"152493","Son programas educativos, debemos llevar el programa dentro de las escuelas, a los niños, a ese niño, al adolescente.",2016.8,2026.76,0.94,"Propone llevar 'programas educacionais' a las escuelas (apoyo explícito a la medida).",{"idx":2681,"utterance_id":2682,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2683,"start_s":2684,"end_s":2685,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},397,"152494","No sirve que solo las mujeres defiendan a las mujeres.",2027.18,2029.02,{"idx":2687,"utterance_id":2688,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2689,"start_s":2690,"end_s":2691,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},398,"152495","Somos nosotros, los hombres, aquí, los que tenemos que hacer nuestra parte y también defender a las mujeres.",2029.08,2032.22,{"idx":2693,"utterance_id":2694,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2695,"start_s":2696,"end_s":2697,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},399,"152496","Es el primer paso.",2032.24,2033.06,{"idx":2699,"utterance_id":2700,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2701,"start_s":2702,"end_s":2703,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},400,"152497","Ahora, tenemos que entender, para llegar al feminicidio, empieza con la violencia doméstica.",2033.5,2037.38,{"idx":2705,"utterance_id":2706,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2707,"start_s":2708,"end_s":2709,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},401,"152498","¿Y por qué las mujeres no denuncian?",2037.72,2039.64,{"idx":2711,"utterance_id":2712,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2713,"start_s":2714,"end_s":2715,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},402,"152499","porque son dependientes económicamente de esos canallas, de esos vagos.",2039.86,2043.38,{"idx":2717,"utterance_id":2718,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2719,"start_s":2720,"end_s":2721,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2722,"target_proposition":2723,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":2724,"rationale":2725,"indexable":173},403,"152500","Entonces lo que el Estado tiene que hacer es acogida.",2043.8,2045.52,"69db132d-541d-4bc4-98dd-dc24b1e2e9b6","implementar políticas de prevención, acogida, investigación y responsabilización de la violencia de género",0.91,"Afirma 'o Estado tem que fazer é acolhimento' (defiende política pública de apoyo).",{"idx":2727,"utterance_id":2728,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2729,"start_s":2730,"end_s":2731,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2732,"target_proposition":2733,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":2734,"indexable":173},404,"152501","El Estado tiene que hacer política pública para dar independencia financiera.",2045.78,2048.76,"4f9563d5-9561-4a2d-8bf3-11b73990bc03","crear políticas públicas para promover la independencia financiera de las mujeres víctimas de violencia","Pide 'política pública de dar independência financeira' a las mujeres (propuesta explícita).",{"idx":2736,"utterance_id":2737,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2738,"start_s":2739,"end_s":2740,"word_count":225,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2722,"target_proposition":2723,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":2741,"indexable":173},405,"152502","El Estado tiene que hacer entender: puedes denunciar que serás muy bien acogida aquí, vamos a cuidarte, te daremos lo que necesites.",2049.08,2057.76,"Garantiza que el Estado 'vai cuidar de você, vai te dar o que precisar' (compromiso de apoyo).",{"idx":2743,"utterance_id":2744,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2745,"start_s":2746,"end_s":2747,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2653,"target_proposition":2654,"stance":238,"stance_confidence":266,"rationale":2748,"indexable":73},406,"152503","Entonces, en el caso de las mujeres, tienen miedo de poder denunciar.",2057.98,2061.82,"Explica que las mujeres tienen miedo de denunciar (describe una barrera, sin proponer acción en esta frase).",{"idx":2750,"utterance_id":2751,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2752,"start_s":2753,"end_s":2754,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},407,"152504","Entonces empieza en la violencia doméstica.",2061.94,2064.8,{"idx":2756,"utterance_id":2757,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2758,"start_s":2759,"end_s":2760,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},408,"152505","Hasta llegar al feminicidio.",2065.22,2066.42,{"idx":2762,"utterance_id":2763,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2764,"start_s":2765,"end_s":2766,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2767,"target_proposition":2768,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":2769,"indexable":173},409,"152506","Entonces lo que necesitamos hacer aquí es concienciar a esas mujeres, hacer esas campañas, para que también puedan ¿hacer qué?",2066.62,2073.66,"551ba7cf-5d04-4f0e-8339-383035631e8b","promover campañas de concienciación y educación sobre la violencia de género en las escuelas","Pregunta retórica vinculada a la necesidad de concienciación y divulgación (apoya acción educativa).",{"idx":2771,"utterance_id":2772,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2773,"start_s":2774,"end_s":2775,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},410,"152507","Denunciar.",2073.82,2074.44,{"idx":2777,"utterance_id":2778,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2779,"start_s":2780,"end_s":2781,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2722,"target_proposition":2723,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":2782,"rationale":2783,"indexable":173},411,"152508","Pero para que puedan denunciar, el Estado tiene que amparar.",2074.86,2077.58,0.89,"Dice que, para denunciar, 'o Estado tem que amparar' (apoya el amparo estatal).",{"idx":2785,"utterance_id":2786,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2094,"start_s":2787,"end_s":2788,"word_count":113,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2722,"target_proposition":2723,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":2234,"rationale":2789,"indexable":73},412,"152509",2077.86,2078.88,"Declara 'é isso que eu quero fazer' (compromiso en primera persona con la política).",{"idx":2791,"utterance_id":2792,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2793,"start_s":2794,"end_s":2795,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2796,"target_proposition":2797,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":1338,"rationale":2798,"indexable":173},413,"152510","La comisaría femenina, 24 horas, ampliar esa comisaría de las mujeres.",2079.5,2083.86,"c2f80d82-5fbc-4df3-b651-43b2a8b0446f","reforzar la protección institucional a las mujeres","Propone explícitamente 'delegacia feminina, 24 horas, a gente ampliar' (acción concreta).",{"idx":658,"utterance_id":2800,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2801,"start_s":2802,"end_s":2803,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},"152511","Lo que pueda hacer en ese sentido, pueden exigírmelo.",2084.14,2086.84,{"idx":2805,"utterance_id":2806,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2807,"start_s":2808,"end_s":2809,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},415,"152512","Si gano, entro en 2027.",2087.86,2090.36,{"idx":2811,"utterance_id":2812,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2813,"start_s":2814,"end_s":2815,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2653,"target_proposition":2654,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":239,"rationale":2816,"indexable":73},416,"152513","En 2028, la reducción del feminicidio aquí en Minas Gerais va a disminuir.",2090.48,2094.4,"Anticipa que, si es elegido, la reducción del feminicidio 'vai diminuir' (intención de política pública).",{"idx":2818,"utterance_id":2819,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2820,"start_s":2821,"end_s":2822,"word_count":49,"indexable":73},417,"152514","Nunca diré que va a desaparecer tratándose de seres humanos, de hombres canallas, marginales, que no tienen ni un ápice de empatía.",2094.74,2103.02,{"idx":2824,"utterance_id":2825,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2826,"start_s":2827,"end_s":2828,"word_count":203,"indexable":73},418,"152515","Eso va a existir hasta el día en que Jesús vuelva; decir que no va a haber ningún delito todavía va a haberlo.",2103.42,2106.82,{"idx":2830,"utterance_id":2831,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2832,"start_s":2833,"end_s":2834,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},419,"152516","Pero que voy a ser de tolerancia cero con esa gente, sí.",2107.06,2109.42,{"idx":2836,"utterance_id":2837,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2838,"start_s":2839,"end_s":2840,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},420,"152517","Solo que creo que tiene que empezar por la raíz.",2109.76,2110.96,{"idx":2842,"utterance_id":2843,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2844,"start_s":2845,"end_s":2846,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":2651,"topic_label":2652,"target_id":2669,"target_proposition":2670,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":2847,"indexable":173},421,"152518","Tenemos que educar incluso dentro del aula.",2111,2113.24,"Afirma 'a gente tem que educar até dentro da sala de aula' (apoyo directo a la educación preventiva).",{"idx":2849,"utterance_id":2850,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2851,"start_s":2852,"end_s":2853,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},422,"152519","Mostrar a ese niño, a ese niño aquí, que vas a convertirte en hombre.",2113.38,2116.28,{"idx":2855,"utterance_id":2856,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2857,"start_s":2858,"end_s":2859,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},423,"152520","El hombre es para cuidar a la mujer, el hombre no es para golpear a la mujer.",2116.64,2119.46,{"idx":2861,"utterance_id":2862,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2863,"start_s":2864,"end_s":2865,"word_count":279,"indexable":73},424,"152521","Esa niña que está ahí, aquí, tú, cuando vayas a salir con alguien o cuando te cases, no puedes aceptar que te agredan, tienes que denunciar.",2119.78,2127.98,{"idx":2867,"utterance_id":2868,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2869,"start_s":2870,"end_s":2871,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},425,"152522","Entonces empieza desde la raíz.",2128.22,2129.32,{"idx":2873,"utterance_id":2874,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2875,"start_s":2876,"end_s":2877,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},426,"152523","Entonces el primer paso es empezar dentro de las escuelas, educar.",2129.36,2132.56,{"idx":2879,"utterance_id":2880,"speaker_name":69,"text":2881,"start_s":2882,"end_s":2883,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},427,"152524","Senador, usted era diputado estatal y luego saltó de la Asamblea Legislativa de Minas Gerais directamente al Senado Federal.",2133.32,2142.62,{"idx":2885,"utterance_id":2886,"speaker_name":69,"text":2887,"start_s":2888,"end_s":2889,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},428,"152525","en esta última etapa, que termina este año en la política brasileña.",2143.32,2146.76,{"idx":2891,"utterance_id":2892,"speaker_name":69,"text":2893,"start_s":2894,"end_s":2895,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},429,"152526","¿Qué le enseñó Brasilia?",2147.34,2149.38,{"idx":2897,"utterance_id":2898,"speaker_name":69,"text":2899,"start_s":2900,"end_s":2901,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},430,"152527","¿Qué fue lo que más le llamó la atención?",2149.58,2151.04,{"idx":2903,"utterance_id":2904,"speaker_name":69,"text":2905,"start_s":2906,"end_s":2907,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},431,"152528","¿Qué sacó, qué aprendió, qué percibió de bueno y de malo haciendo política dentro del Senado Federal?",2151.06,2157.32,{"idx":2909,"utterance_id":2910,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2911,"start_s":2912,"end_s":2913,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},432,"152529","Mira, eso es algo que no fue hecho para funcionar.",2163,2166.82,{"idx":2915,"utterance_id":2916,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2917,"start_s":2918,"end_s":2919,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},433,"152530","Creo que una de las razones por las que vengo como candidato ejecutivo es porque pasé allí cuatro años.",2167.34,2172.74,{"idx":2921,"utterance_id":2922,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2923,"start_s":2924,"end_s":2925,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},434,"152531","Aunque el Senado es menos, pero vemos eso mucho dentro de la Cámara de Diputados.",2173.64,2177.32,{"idx":2927,"utterance_id":2928,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2929,"start_s":2930,"end_s":2931,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},435,"152532","La gente no está allí para resolver el problema, dicen los políticos, los diputados, para resolver el problema de la población.",2177.74,2183.38,{"idx":2933,"utterance_id":2934,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2935,"start_s":2936,"end_s":2937,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":2938,"topic_label":2939,"target_id":2940,"target_proposition":2941,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":2942,"indexable":173},436,"152533","Estamos viendo el tema del fin de la escala 6x1.",2183.72,2185.36,"relacoes-internacionais-trabalho","Relaciones Internacionales \u002F Trabajo","f67697cf-1bf4-4265-bfd0-08d59fefc47e","acabar con la escala seis por uno sin reducción salarial","Introduce y defiende la propuesta del 'fim da escala 6x1' como tema público.",{"idx":2944,"utterance_id":2945,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2946,"start_s":2947,"end_s":2948,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":2938,"topic_label":2939,"target_id":2940,"target_proposition":2941,"stance":238,"stance_confidence":2949,"rationale":2950,"indexable":73},437,"152534","Puedes hacer una encuesta en Brasil, que creo que entre el 70% y el 75% de la población quiere el fin de la escala 6x1.",2186.54,2192.96,0.65,"Cita el resultado probable de una encuesta sobre apoyo al fin de la escala, sin acción personal explícita.",{"idx":2952,"utterance_id":2953,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2954,"start_s":2955,"end_s":2956,"word_count":195,"indexable":73},438,"152535","Solo que siempre entra la ideología, siempre entra la cuestión porque es el gobierno Lula el que lo está proponiendo.",2193.62,2198.66,{"idx":2958,"utterance_id":2959,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2960,"start_s":2961,"end_s":2962,"word_count":151,"indexable":73},439,"152536","Mira, no importa si es el gobierno de Lula el que lo propone, no.",2198.94,2201.12,{"idx":2964,"utterance_id":2965,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2966,"start_s":2967,"end_s":2968,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},440,"152537","Podría haber sido el presidente Bolsonaro, o si hubiera sido Ciro, o si Simone hubiera ganado.",2201.48,2205.52,{"idx":2970,"utterance_id":2971,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2972,"start_s":2973,"end_s":2974,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},441,"152538","Es una propuesta que es para el pueblo.",2205.76,2207.2,{"idx":2976,"utterance_id":2977,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2978,"start_s":2979,"end_s":2980,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},442,"152539","Entonces lo que tenemos que parar allí, y los diputados hacen eso, y también el Senado, es esa polarización.",2207.48,2213.52,{"idx":2982,"utterance_id":2983,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2984,"start_s":2985,"end_s":2986,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},443,"152540","Somos un solo país, un solo pueblo.",2214.28,2216.08,{"idx":2988,"utterance_id":2989,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2990,"start_s":2991,"end_s":2992,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},444,"152541","Mientras continúe esa polarización, el país dividido nunca prosperará.",2216.92,2220.44,{"idx":2994,"utterance_id":2995,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":2996,"start_s":2997,"end_s":2998,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},445,"152542","No soporto la hipocresía, porque si ustedes recuerdan, cuando Bolsonaro era presidente, yo era diputado estatal, como dijo.",2221.24,2227.62,{"idx":3000,"utterance_id":3001,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3002,"start_s":3003,"end_s":3004,"word_count":252,"indexable":73},446,"152543","Bolsonaro, casi por esta época del año también, cambió la ayuda emergencial por el Auxílio Brasil e hizo una propuesta para poder aumentarla.",2227.9,2236.08,{"idx":3006,"utterance_id":3007,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3008,"start_s":3009,"end_s":3010,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},447,"152544","¿Quién hizo eso?",2236.58,2237.28,{"idx":3012,"utterance_id":3013,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3014,"start_s":3015,"end_s":3016,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},448,"152545","Fue Bolsonaro.",2237.5,2238.36,{"idx":3018,"utterance_id":3019,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3020,"start_s":3021,"end_s":3022,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},449,"152546","Entonces, en ese momento, los aliados de Bolsonaro estaban diciendo ¿qué?",2238.68,2240.66,{"idx":3024,"utterance_id":3025,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3026,"start_s":3027,"end_s":3028,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},450,"152547","Felicidades.",2240.98,2241.56,{"idx":3030,"utterance_id":3031,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3032,"start_s":3033,"end_s":3034,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},451,"152548","Yo estaba allí en la Asamblea, felicitando a Bolsonaro.",2241.7,2244.08,{"idx":3036,"utterance_id":3037,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3038,"start_s":3039,"end_s":3040,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},452,"152549","Eso es, estás ayudando al pueblo.",2244.12,2245.76,{"idx":3042,"utterance_id":3043,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3044,"start_s":3045,"end_s":3046,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},453,"152550","Ahora, cambió porque es Lula.",2246.24,2249.86,{"idx":3048,"utterance_id":3049,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3050,"start_s":3051,"end_s":3052,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},454,"152551","Lula está enviando ese proyecto del fin de la escala 6x1.",2249.9,2252.32,{"idx":3054,"utterance_id":3055,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3056,"start_s":3057,"end_s":3058,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},455,"152552","Algunas personas están en contra porque es Lula.",2253,2255.14,{"idx":3060,"utterance_id":3061,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3062,"start_s":3063,"end_s":3064,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},456,"152553","Mira, Lula ni siquiera se va a beneficiar con esa escala 6x1.",2255.48,2257.96,{"idx":3066,"utterance_id":3067,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3068,"start_s":3069,"end_s":3070,"word_count":43,"indexable":73},457,"152554","Quien se beneficiará es ese trabajador que toma un autobús lleno, que ahora se levantará a las 6 de la mañana, trabajará de lunes a sábado, gana R$ 1.600.",2258.72,2267.44,{"idx":3072,"utterance_id":3073,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3074,"start_s":3075,"end_s":3076,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},458,"152555","Todo lo que paga, la mitad es impuesto para poder mantener ese Senado y ese Congreso.",2268.26,2272.68,{"idx":3078,"utterance_id":3079,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3080,"start_s":3081,"end_s":3082,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},459,"152556","Para que tengan una noción, tuvimos un receso ahora en julio de 15 días.",2272.7,2277,{"idx":3084,"utterance_id":3085,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3086,"start_s":3087,"end_s":3088,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},460,"152557","Entró la campaña.",2277.38,2278.3,{"idx":3090,"utterance_id":3091,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3092,"start_s":3093,"end_s":3094,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},461,"152558","Quieren convocarnos allí la semana que viene para votar la cuestión del fin de la escala 6x1 en la CCJ.",2278.32,2284.64,{"idx":3096,"utterance_id":3097,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3098,"start_s":3099,"end_s":3100,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},462,"152559","¿Quieres apostar que ya hay gente queriendo entorpecer para que no se vote?",2284.92,2288.3,{"idx":3102,"utterance_id":3103,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3104,"start_s":3105,"end_s":3106,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},463,"152560","Esas mismas senadoras que ni siquiera van a trabajar, esos mismos políticos que ni... Ustedes me violan para ponerme nervioso, ustedes entraron para mí en la parte principal.",2288.72,2294.96,{"idx":3108,"utterance_id":3109,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3110,"start_s":3111,"end_s":3112,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},464,"152561","La fuente de riqueza se llama trabajador y empresario.",2295.92,2298.66,{"idx":3114,"utterance_id":3115,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3116,"start_s":3117,"end_s":3118,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},465,"152562","La fuente de gasto se llama Congreso Nacional, que en la mayoría de las veces no sirve para nada.",2298.96,2302.78,{"idx":3120,"utterance_id":3121,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3122,"start_s":3123,"end_s":3124,"word_count":93,"indexable":73},466,"152563","Si miras nuestra escala hoy, es una escala en la que trabajamos dos veces por semana.",2303.14,2308.26,{"idx":3126,"utterance_id":3127,"speaker_name":69,"text":3128,"start_s":3129,"end_s":3130,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},467,"152564","Es decir, dos por cinco.",2308.58,2309.6,{"idx":3132,"utterance_id":3133,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3134,"start_s":3135,"end_s":3136,"word_count":183,"indexable":73},468,"152565","¿Qué moral tiene un político para venir a hablar de la escala 6x1 que no puede terminar?",2309.92,2313.94,{"idx":3138,"utterance_id":3139,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3140,"start_s":3141,"end_s":3142,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},469,"152566","Usted que me está acompañando ahora, deje de lado su lado ideológico, de izquierda y de derecha.",2315.34,2319.92,{"idx":3144,"utterance_id":3145,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3146,"start_s":3147,"end_s":3148,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},470,"152567","Deje de lado su bolsonarismo y su lulismo.",2320.16,2322.18,{"idx":3150,"utterance_id":3151,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3152,"start_s":3153,"end_s":3154,"word_count":412,"indexable":73},471,"152568","¿Qué moral tiene un político que gana 40 mil reales, que recibe subsidio de vivienda, subsidio para traje, asignación indemnizatoria para gasolina, asignación para alimentación, que tiene un plan de salud vitalicio que existe en el Senado y del que yo renuncié, apartamento funcional que ningún trabajador tiene derecho, que trabaja dos veces por semana?",2322.46,2340.66,{"idx":3156,"utterance_id":3157,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3158,"start_s":3159,"end_s":3160,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},472,"152569","Este año, ahora en julio empezó el receso, va a volver sólo en... noviembre, ¿viene a decir que no se puede votar el fin de la escala 6x1?",2341,2346.88,{"idx":3162,"utterance_id":3163,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3164,"start_s":3165,"end_s":3166,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},473,"152570","¿Qué charla vacía es esa?",2348.14,2349.24,{"idx":3168,"utterance_id":3169,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3170,"start_s":3171,"end_s":3172,"word_count":107,"topic_slug":2938,"topic_label":2939,"target_id":2940,"target_proposition":2941,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":3173,"indexable":73},474,"152571","Pues voy a votar con gusto.",2349.5,2350.84,"Declara voto favorable ('vou votar com prazer') al fin de la escala 6x1.",{"idx":3175,"utterance_id":3176,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3177,"start_s":3178,"end_s":3179,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":2938,"topic_label":2939,"target_id":2940,"target_proposition":2941,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":1338,"rationale":3180,"indexable":173},475,"152572","Voy a interrumpir mi campaña aquí esta semana en Minas Gerais, voy a ir a Brasilia para defender allí en la CCJ el fin de la escala 6x1.",2351.38,2358.1,"Se compromete a ir a Brasilia a defender el fin de la escala 6x1 en la CCJ (acción explícita).",{"idx":3182,"utterance_id":3183,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3184,"start_s":3185,"end_s":3186,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},476,"152573","y hay forma de equilibrar.",2358.74,2359.74,{"idx":3188,"utterance_id":3189,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3190,"start_s":3191,"end_s":3192,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},477,"152574","Quien tiene que pagar la cuenta no es el empresario.",2360.3,2362.42,{"idx":3194,"utterance_id":3195,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3196,"start_s":3197,"end_s":3198,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},478,"152575","¿Quién tiene que pagar la cuenta?",2362.46,2363.76,{"idx":3200,"utterance_id":3201,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3202,"start_s":3203,"end_s":3204,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},479,"152576","Son los tres poderes.",2364.12,2365.04,{"idx":3206,"utterance_id":3207,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3208,"start_s":3209,"end_s":3210,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},480,"152577","Es el judicial que paga complementos a jueces que están apartado por 500 mil reales por abuso, por acoso.",2365.24,2371.46,{"idx":3212,"utterance_id":3213,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3214,"start_s":3215,"end_s":3216,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},481,"152578","Quien tiene que pagar la cuenta aquí son los tres poderes.",2371.76,2374.7,{"idx":3218,"utterance_id":3219,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3220,"start_s":3221,"end_s":3222,"word_count":120,"topic_slug":3223,"topic_label":3224,"target_id":3225,"target_proposition":3226,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":2724,"rationale":3227,"indexable":173},482,"152579","Es recortar las prebendas, los privilegios de los políticos.",2374.92,2377.1,"uso-de-recursos-publicos","Uso de recursos públicos","e165136a-08f2-435d-9dbf-94c6b419bd7e","reducir privilegios y gastos públicos excesivos","defiende explícitamente 'cortar as regalias, a mordomia dos políticos'.",{"idx":3229,"utterance_id":3230,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3231,"start_s":3232,"end_s":3233,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},483,"152580","Es recortar los privilegios del Ejecutivo con los viajes innecesarios.",2377.46,2381.02,{"idx":3235,"utterance_id":3236,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3237,"start_s":3238,"end_s":3239,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":3223,"topic_label":3224,"target_id":3225,"target_proposition":3226,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":3240,"indexable":173},484,"152581","Quien tiene que pagar esa cuenta no es el empresario.",2381.3,2382.78,"menciona recortar los privilegios del ejecutivo por viajes innecesarios (misma propuesta).",{"idx":3242,"utterance_id":3243,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3244,"start_s":3245,"end_s":3246,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},485,"152582","Sólo hay que equilibrar la balanza.",2382.98,2384.08,{"idx":3248,"utterance_id":3249,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3250,"start_s":3251,"end_s":3252,"word_count":95,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":32,"target_id":3253,"target_proposition":3254,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":192,"rationale":3255,"indexable":73},486,"152583","Vamos a desgravarlo de la nómina.",2384.58,2385.56,"b15af4a1-9d22-4333-9535-90337777eb93","reducir impuestos sobre contratación y nómina","afirma directamente 'vamos desonerar a folha' (propuesta fiscal explícita).",{"idx":3257,"utterance_id":3258,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3259,"start_s":3260,"end_s":3261,"word_count":139,"topic_slug":2938,"topic_label":2939,"target_id":3262,"target_proposition":3263,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":180,"rationale":3264,"indexable":173},487,"152584","A las empresas que adopten el 5x2, se les reduce el impuesto.",2386.08,2389.94,"d84ed425-f3cf-43ea-93c1-9ccee08ef444","reducir impuestos a empresas que adopten la escala 5x2","propone reducir el impuesto a las empresas que se adhieran al 5x2 (incentivo directo).",{"idx":3266,"utterance_id":3267,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3268,"start_s":3269,"end_s":3270,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},488,"152585","¿Y cómo va a reducirse el impuesto?",2390.2,2391.38,{"idx":3272,"utterance_id":3273,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3274,"start_s":3275,"end_s":3276,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},489,"152586","Cortando aquí de la propia carne.",2391.58,2393.1,{"idx":3278,"utterance_id":3279,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3280,"start_s":3281,"end_s":3282,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},490,"152587","Estoy dispuesto.",2393.18,2393.9,{"idx":3284,"utterance_id":3285,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3286,"start_s":3287,"end_s":3288,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},491,"152588","Dispuesto a cortar de la propia carne.",2394.18,2395.38,{"idx":3290,"utterance_id":3291,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3292,"start_s":3293,"end_s":3294,"word_count":225,"indexable":73},492,"152589","Lo que pasa dentro del Congreso Nacional, esa cobardía, esa hipocresía, que mira que está en elección ahora, está llamando a la puerta de la casa de la población, está allí hablando.",2395.64,2403.26,{"idx":3296,"utterance_id":3297,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3298,"start_s":3299,"end_s":3300,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},493,"152590","Mira, yo te estoy defendiendo.",2403.5,2405.08,{"idx":3302,"utterance_id":3303,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3304,"start_s":3305,"end_s":3306,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},494,"152591","Voy a hablar de salud, seguridad y educación.",2405.42,2407.1,{"idx":3308,"utterance_id":3309,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3310,"start_s":3311,"end_s":3312,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},495,"152592","Voy a ir a cuidar de usted.",2407.34,2408.4,{"idx":3314,"utterance_id":3315,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3316,"start_s":3317,"end_s":3318,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},496,"152593","Y llega un proyecto como este que es para beneficiar al pueblo, se ponen a molestar y no quieren votar.",2408.72,2412.82,{"idx":3320,"utterance_id":3321,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3322,"start_s":3323,"end_s":3324,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},497,"152594","Pues que voten.",2413.18,2414.08,{"idx":3326,"utterance_id":3327,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3328,"start_s":3329,"end_s":3330,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":2938,"topic_label":2939,"target_id":2940,"target_proposition":2941,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":704,"rationale":3331,"indexable":173},498,"152595","Y voy a dar la cara de cada senador que vote en contra.",2414.34,2416.72,"amenaza con exponer a los senadores que voten en contra del fin de la escala, apoyando públicamente la medida.",{"idx":3333,"utterance_id":3334,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3335,"start_s":3336,"end_s":3337,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},499,"152596","Ustedes pueden cobrarme eso aquí.",2416.74,2418,{"idx":3339,"utterance_id":3340,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3341,"start_s":3342,"end_s":3343,"word_count":175,"topic_slug":2938,"topic_label":2939,"target_id":2940,"target_proposition":2941,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":3344,"indexable":173},500,"152597","Vamos a votar el fin de la escala 6x1 por una cuestión de dignidad, una cuestión humana.",2418.24,2422.06,"afirma que votarán el fin de la escala 6x1 por dignidad (apoyo explícito a la propuesta).",{"idx":3346,"utterance_id":3347,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3348,"start_s":3349,"end_s":3350,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},501,"152598","Porque yo sé lo que es eso.",2422.38,2423.4,{"idx":3352,"utterance_id":3353,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3354,"start_s":3355,"end_s":3356,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},502,"152599","Lo sentí en la piel.",2423.64,2424.58,{"idx":3358,"utterance_id":3359,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3360,"start_s":3361,"end_s":3362,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},503,"152600","Antes de ser político, hoy soy un privilegiado.",2424.86,2427.14,{"idx":3364,"utterance_id":3365,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3366,"start_s":3367,"end_s":3368,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},504,"152601","Me convertí en senador de la república.",2427.5,2428.7,{"idx":3370,"utterance_id":3371,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3372,"start_s":3373,"end_s":3374,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},505,"152602","Trabajo sólo de vez en cuando.",2428.96,2430.2,{"idx":3376,"utterance_id":3377,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3378,"start_s":3379,"end_s":3380,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},506,"152603","Gano 40 mil reales.",2430.48,2431.54,{"idx":3382,"utterance_id":3383,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3384,"start_s":3385,"end_s":3386,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},507,"152604","Incluso cuando trabajaba en la región de mi padre, trabajaba de lunes a lunes.",2431.84,2435.86,{"idx":3388,"utterance_id":3389,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3390,"start_s":3391,"end_s":3392,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},508,"152605","Vi a mi padre trabajar en esa maldita escala de lunes a lunes.",2436.22,2439.48,{"idx":3394,"utterance_id":3395,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3396,"start_s":3397,"end_s":3398,"word_count":195,"indexable":73},509,"152606","Cuántas veces mi padre, siendo padre, decía: puedes ir, yo me quedo aquí un poco más.",2439.76,2443.94,{"idx":3400,"utterance_id":3401,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3402,"start_s":3403,"end_s":3404,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},510,"152607","Cuántas veces, no estoy haciendo esto sólo por la cuestión del trabajador.",2444.22,2446.74,{"idx":3406,"utterance_id":3407,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3408,"start_s":3409,"end_s":3410,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},511,"152608","No, lo estoy haciendo por mi padre.",2446.78,2448.14,{"idx":3412,"utterance_id":3413,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3414,"start_s":3415,"end_s":3416,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},512,"152609","Porque quería mucho que mi padre pudiera ver un partido de fútbol mío.",2448.86,2452.46,{"idx":3418,"utterance_id":3419,"speaker_name":69,"text":3420,"start_s":3421,"end_s":3422,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},513,"152610","Hola.",2453.02,2453.16,{"idx":3424,"utterance_id":3425,"speaker_name":69,"text":3426,"start_s":3427,"end_s":3428,"word_count":342,"indexable":73},514,"152611","Permítame sólo recoger un punto, porque usted, como dijo, ejerce el mandato del Senado y el candidato del PL a la presidencia que usted apoya, Flávio Bolsonaro, también es senador.",2453.96,2462.42,{"idx":3430,"utterance_id":3431,"speaker_name":69,"text":3432,"start_s":3433,"end_s":3434,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},515,"152612","¿Intentará usted convencerlo de que esté en el Senado y apoye la aprobación de la PEC 6x1?",2462.84,2468.06,{"idx":3436,"utterance_id":3437,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3438,"start_s":3439,"end_s":3440,"word_count":107,"topic_slug":2938,"topic_label":2939,"target_id":2940,"target_proposition":2941,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":171,"rationale":3441,"indexable":73},516,"152613","No voy a convencer sólo a él.",2468.14,2472.84,"dice que va a convencer a senadores para que apoyen la aprobación del fin de la escala 6x1 (acción pro-PEC).",{"idx":3443,"utterance_id":3444,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3445,"start_s":3446,"end_s":3447,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},517,"152614","No, voy a convencer a los otros 80 senadores, no es sólo él.",2472.86,2475.8,{"idx":3449,"utterance_id":3450,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3451,"start_s":3452,"end_s":3453,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},518,"152615","Si es necesario, llamaré uno por uno.",2476.3,2477.62,{"idx":3455,"utterance_id":3456,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3457,"start_s":3458,"end_s":3459,"word_count":214,"indexable":73},519,"152616","Y espero mucho que Flávio Bolsonaro, que es el candidato a presidente, que está diciendo que va a defender al pueblo, pueda ahora estar allí en la CCJ y pueda decir a boca llena que va a votar el fin de la escala 6x1.",2478.02,2488.1,{"idx":3461,"utterance_id":3462,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3463,"start_s":3464,"end_s":3465,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},520,"152617","Espero mucho que haga eso, porque esto aquí no va a beneficiar ni a él, ni a mí, ni a Lula ni a nadie.",2488.12,2492.9,{"idx":3467,"utterance_id":3468,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3469,"start_s":3470,"end_s":3471,"word_count":60,"indexable":73},521,"152618","Beneficiará al trabajador, que paga sus impuestos rigurosamente y tiene mérito y dignidad para tener un día libre más.",2493.12,2499.96,{"idx":3473,"utterance_id":3474,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3475,"start_s":3476,"end_s":3477,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},522,"152619","Y yo voy a hacer esto por ellos.",2500.26,2501.22,{"idx":3479,"utterance_id":3480,"speaker_name":69,"text":3481,"start_s":3482,"end_s":3483,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},523,"152620","Permítanme pasar a Edilene Lopes para que haga la pregunta ahora.",2501.42,2503.62,{"idx":3485,"utterance_id":3486,"speaker_name":69,"text":3487,"start_s":3488,"end_s":3489,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},524,"152621","Senador, desde el comienzo usted es el indiscutible líder en las encuestas.",2504.5,2507.6,{"idx":3491,"utterance_id":3492,"speaker_name":69,"text":3493,"start_s":3494,"end_s":3495,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},525,"152622","¿Cree usted que esto se debe a qué?",2507.66,2509.2,{"idx":3497,"utterance_id":3498,"speaker_name":69,"text":3499,"start_s":3500,"end_s":3501,"word_count":279,"indexable":73},526,"152623","Sus adversarios afirman que usted debe deshidratarse hasta el final de la elección y disminuir de tamaño y terminar en tercer o cuarto lugar.",2509.3,2515.78,{"idx":3503,"utterance_id":3504,"speaker_name":69,"text":3505,"start_s":3506,"end_s":3507,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},527,"152624","¿Por qué cree usted que hacen esa evaluación respecto a su candidatura?",2516.14,2519.58,{"idx":3509,"utterance_id":3510,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3511,"start_s":3512,"end_s":3513,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},528,"152625","Porque los políticos, incluso los tradicionales, me desmerecen.",2523.16,2526.52,{"idx":3515,"utterance_id":3516,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3517,"start_s":3518,"end_s":3519,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},529,"152626","Pueden ver aquí la forma en que hablo, la forma en que visto.",2526.54,2529.74,{"idx":3521,"utterance_id":3522,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3523,"start_s":3524,"end_s":3525,"word_count":127,"indexable":73},530,"152627","No soy un político tradicional, soy el pueblo.",2530.04,2532.26,{"idx":806,"utterance_id":3527,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3528,"start_s":3529,"end_s":3530,"word_count":137,"indexable":73},"152628","Quien me está viendo aquí es exactamente usted que está ahí, yo soy la población.",2532.94,2536.5,{"idx":3532,"utterance_id":3533,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3534,"start_s":3535,"end_s":3536,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},532,"152629","Soy trabajador y resulta que al político le da asco el pueblo, a la mayoría de ellos, porque no sienten al pueblo.",2536.8,2542.06,{"idx":3538,"utterance_id":3539,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3540,"start_s":3541,"end_s":3542,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},533,"152630","Sé lo que es el pueblo.",2542.1,2543.5,{"idx":3544,"utterance_id":3545,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3546,"start_s":3547,"end_s":3548,"word_count":120,"indexable":73},534,"152631","Sé muy bien lo que es la gente.",2544,2545.76,{"idx":3550,"utterance_id":3551,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3552,"start_s":3553,"end_s":3554,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},535,"152632","Recorrí todo el estado, los 853 municipios como diputado y ahora como senador.",2546.08,2549.68,{"idx":3556,"utterance_id":3557,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3558,"start_s":3559,"end_s":3560,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},536,"152633","Sé el dolor del pueblo.",2549.96,2551.2,{"idx":3562,"utterance_id":3563,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3564,"start_s":3565,"end_s":3566,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},537,"152634","Lidero la encuesta por eso.",2551.48,2552.9,{"idx":3568,"utterance_id":3569,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3570,"start_s":3571,"end_s":3572,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},538,"152635","Porque el pueblo confía en mí.",2553.26,2554.42,{"idx":3574,"utterance_id":3575,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3576,"start_s":3577,"end_s":3578,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},539,"152636","¿Sabe? ahora quién se ríe?",2555.06,2555.76,{"idx":3580,"utterance_id":3581,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3582,"start_s":3583,"end_s":3584,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},540,"152637","el que ríe al final ríe mejor, Edilene.",2555.8,2557.22,{"idx":3586,"utterance_id":3587,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3588,"start_s":3589,"end_s":3590,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},541,"152638","Es bueno que los humillados sean exaltados.",2557.46,2558.96,{"idx":3592,"utterance_id":3593,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3594,"start_s":3595,"end_s":3596,"word_count":125,"indexable":73},542,"152639","Dejen decir que me voy a deshidratar, que no voy a ganar la elección.",2559.26,2562.32,{"idx":3598,"utterance_id":3599,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3600,"start_s":3601,"end_s":3602,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},543,"152640","No hay ningún problema.",2562.36,2563.2,{"idx":3604,"utterance_id":3605,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3606,"start_s":3607,"end_s":3608,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},544,"152641","Cero problema.",2563.88,2564.62,{"idx":3610,"utterance_id":3611,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3612,"start_s":3613,"end_s":3614,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},545,"152642","Dejen que abra las urnas.",2565.04,2566.62,{"idx":3616,"utterance_id":3617,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3618,"start_s":3619,"end_s":3620,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},546,"152643","El pueblo ya no es tonto.",2566.64,2568.2,{"idx":3622,"utterance_id":3623,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3624,"start_s":3625,"end_s":3626,"word_count":118,"indexable":73},547,"152644","Y estoy liderando las encuestas por eso, porque no soy un tipo radical, no soy un extremista.",2568.5,2572.62,{"idx":3628,"utterance_id":3629,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3630,"start_s":3631,"end_s":3632,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},548,"152645","Soy un tipo que defiende a todo el mundo, soy justo.",2573.58,2575.56,{"idx":3634,"utterance_id":3635,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3636,"start_s":3637,"end_s":3638,"word_count":203,"indexable":73},549,"152646","Lo que favorezca al pueblo aquí, independientemente de quién sea presidente, quién sea gobernador, lo voy a apoyar.",2575.76,2579.8,{"idx":3640,"utterance_id":3641,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3642,"start_s":3643,"end_s":3644,"word_count":203,"indexable":73},550,"152647","Lidero las encuestas porque todos los días de mi vida he dedicado mi vida al pueblo.",2579.82,2586.02,{"idx":3646,"utterance_id":3647,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3648,"start_s":3649,"end_s":3650,"word_count":390,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":32,"target_id":3651,"target_proposition":3652,"stance":170,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":3653,"indexable":173},551,"152648","Soy un político aquí, que ustedes dijeron que era diputado, que logró reducir una tasa de licenciamiento que no debería ni existir en Minas 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cargas.",{"idx":3668,"utterance_id":3669,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3670,"start_s":3671,"end_s":3672,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},554,"152651","Por eso lidero las encuestas, ¿sabe por qué?",2603.6,2605.18,{"idx":3674,"utterance_id":3675,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3676,"start_s":3677,"end_s":3678,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},555,"152652","Porque la mayor dedicación de mi vida es reducir el costo de la vida del pueblo brasileño.",2605.48,2610.9,{"idx":3680,"utterance_id":3681,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3682,"start_s":3683,"end_s":3684,"word_count":480,"indexable":73},556,"152653","Mientras ellos se quedan peleando de ideologías para acá y para allá, yo me preocupo por mejorar la calidad de vida del trabajador, para que pueda ir al supermercado y comprar más barato, para que pueda tener una factura de electricidad más barata, una factura de agua más barata, un IPVA más justo, una carretera con 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de derecha, mi mano aquí, ó, pero necesito las dos, necesito la derecha y la izquierda.",2641.1,2647.28,{"idx":3710,"utterance_id":3711,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3712,"start_s":3713,"end_s":3714,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},561,"152658","Y mi corazón es para todos.",2647.48,2648.64,{"idx":3716,"utterance_id":3717,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3718,"start_s":3719,"end_s":3720,"word_count":88,"indexable":73},562,"152659","Yo tengo eso.",2649.06,2649.68,{"idx":3722,"utterance_id":3723,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3724,"start_s":3725,"end_s":3726,"word_count":175,"indexable":73},563,"152660","Fui un privilegiado de salir de donde salí y convertirme en senador de la república.",2650.22,2653.46,{"idx":3728,"utterance_id":3729,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3730,"start_s":3731,"end_s":3732,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},564,"152661","Ahora ¿qué tengo que hacer?",2653.72,2654.58,{"idx":3734,"utterance_id":3735,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3736,"start_s":3737,"end_s":3738,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},565,"152662","Contribuir.",2654.66,2655.18,{"idx":3740,"utterance_id":3741,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3742,"start_s":3743,"end_s":3744,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},566,"152663","Ahora tengo que hacer por el pueblo.",2655.5,2657.2,{"idx":3746,"utterance_id":3747,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3748,"start_s":3749,"end_s":3750,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},567,"152664","Entonces, si lidero las encuestas es porque el pueblo lo quiere.",2657.34,2659.2,{"idx":3752,"utterance_id":3753,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3754,"start_s":3755,"end_s":3756,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},568,"152665","Y he estado liderando las 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de que hagas la última pregunta para la Cleitinha Azevedo?",2685.26,2687.6,{"idx":3836,"utterance_id":3837,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3838,"start_s":3839,"end_s":3840,"word_count":107,"indexable":73},582,"152679","No, quédense un poquito más, gente.",2687.62,2689.54,{"idx":3842,"utterance_id":3843,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3844,"start_s":3845,"end_s":3846,"word_count":95,"indexable":73},583,"152680","Déjenme un poquito más.",2689.56,2690.26,{"idx":3848,"utterance_id":3849,"speaker_name":163,"speaker_slug":164,"text":3850,"start_s":3851,"end_s":3852,"word_count":113,"indexable":73},584,"152681","Dense unos 15 minutos más para mí.",2690.52,2692,{"idx":3854,"utterance_id":3855,"speaker_name":69,"text":3856,"start_s":3857,"end_s":3858,"word_count":139,"indexable":73},585,"152682","No, hay una programación que tenemos que 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