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recauda, al igual que el gobierno anterior.",229.36,237.28,0.85,"afirma que el primer punto es no gastar más de lo que se recauda.",{"idx":425,"utterance_id":426,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":427,"start_s":428,"end_s":429,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":430,"topic_label":431,"target_id":432,"target_proposition":433,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":434,"indexable":337},38,"150220","Y además de eso, tenemos que hacer algo que el gobierno no está haciendo: dialogar con el gobierno federal.",237.96,245.1,"relacoes-intergovernamentais","Relaciones intergubernamentales","14be2d7a-7819-4362-bbc8-411c2f52b8ac","dialogar con el gobierno federal","declara claramente 'temos que dialogar com o governo federal'.",{"idx":436,"utterance_id":437,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":438,"start_s":439,"end_s":440,"word_count":234,"topic_slug":430,"topic_label":431,"target_id":432,"target_proposition":433,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":335,"rationale":441,"indexable":337},39,"150221","No puede el gobernador de Minas Gerais simplemente andar peleando con el presidente de la República.",245.54,251.82,"afirma que el gobernador no puede 'ficar brigando' con el presidente.",{"idx":443,"utterance_id":444,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":445,"start_s":446,"end_s":447,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},40,"150222","Y tiene que gustarle la política.",252.18,253.46,{"idx":449,"utterance_id":450,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":451,"start_s":452,"end_s":453,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":454,"target_proposition":455,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":375,"rationale":456,"indexable":337},41,"150223","Ahora, hay algo que este gobierno hizo y que yo voy a mantener, que es no necesitar el Palácio das Mangabeiras como residencia oficial.",253.86,262.38,"77c36ae8-183a-4db1-b18c-30d254aa8f1d","transformar el Palacio das Mangabeiras en espacio público","dice que no necesita usarlo como residencia oficial y mantendrá eso.",{"idx":458,"utterance_id":459,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":460,"start_s":461,"end_s":462,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},42,"150224","Vivo en un apartamento en el centro de la ciudad.",262.8,265.36,{"idx":464,"utterance_id":465,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":466,"start_s":467,"end_s":468,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},43,"150225","Y pienso seguir allí.",265.76,267.08,{"idx":470,"utterance_id":471,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":472,"start_s":473,"end_s":474,"word_count":281,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":454,"target_proposition":455,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":335,"rationale":475,"indexable":337},44,"150226","El Palacio seguirá sirviendo como un espacio de memoria y de ocupación pública para el ciudadano de Minas.",267.58,273.94,"afirma que el Palácio 'vai ficar servindo como um espaço de memória'.",{"idx":477,"utterance_id":478,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":479,"start_s":480,"end_s":481,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},45,"150227","Sobre todo para que recordemos que el Palácio das Mangabeiras y el Palácio da Liberdade fueron dos escenarios de la redemocratización brasileña.",274.26,281.8,{"idx":483,"utterance_id":484,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":485,"start_s":486,"end_s":487,"word_count":464,"indexable":181},46,"150228","A diferencia del gobernador Romeu Zema, yo sé que la dictadura existió, formo parte del movimiento democrático brasileño, y al igual que Tancredo Neves, que me inspira mucho, sé muy bien que el primer compromiso de Minas es... con la libertad.",282.22,295.64,{"idx":489,"utterance_id":490,"speaker_name":176,"text":491,"start_s":492,"end_s":493,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},47,"150229","Caio Junqueira.",296.44,296.98,{"idx":372,"utterance_id":495,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":496,"start_s":497,"end_s":498,"word_count":470,"indexable":181},"150230","Candidato, haciendo la investigación allí, precisamente para poder prepararme para esta sabatina, hablé con muchos políticos de Minas allí y me relataron un poco de su trayectoria, específicamente de su relación con tres de ellos: Aécio Neves, Alexandre Calil y Marcelo Ara.",298.16,317.44,{"idx":500,"utterance_id":501,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":502,"start_s":503,"end_s":504,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},49,"150231","Y lo que me dijeron es que usted se alió en un primer momento con cada uno de ellos y luego se desligó de cada uno de ellos.",317.84,325.44,{"idx":506,"utterance_id":507,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":508,"start_s":509,"end_s":510,"word_count":214,"indexable":181},50,"150232","Quisiera que usted contara esa historia, porque allí se señaló casi como movimientos de traición hacia los tres.",325.46,331.04,{"idx":512,"utterance_id":513,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":514,"start_s":515,"end_s":516,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},51,"150233","Yo jamás traicioné mis principios, mi estimado.",335.44,337.66,{"idx":518,"utterance_id":519,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":520,"start_s":521,"end_s":522,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},52,"150234","Y te cuento esas tres historias con tranquilidad.",337.94,340.52,{"idx":524,"utterance_id":525,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":526,"start_s":527,"end_s":528,"word_count":265,"indexable":181},53,"150235","Me afilié al PSDB en 2005 y permanecí ocho años en el partido.",340.82,346.72,{"idx":530,"utterance_id":531,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":532,"start_s":533,"end_s":534,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},54,"150236","En 2013... Y percibí que los rumbos de la sigla ya no tenían que ver con lo que yo defendía.",347.3,353.64,{"idx":536,"utterance_id":537,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":538,"start_s":539,"end_s":540,"word_count":251,"indexable":181},55,"150237","Y decidí, con mucha tranquilidad, desafiliarme del PSDB (Partido da Social Democracia Brasileira).",354.22,359.66,{"idx":542,"utterance_id":543,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":544,"start_s":545,"end_s":546,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},56,"150238","No fue ningún movimiento de pelea con el entonces senador Aécio Neves, que había sido gobernador.",360.22,367.02,{"idx":548,"utterance_id":549,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":550,"start_s":551,"end_s":552,"word_count":240,"indexable":181},57,"150239","En realidad, formaba parte del gobierno de Antônio Anastasia, donde permanecí de 2011 a 2014, aun desafiliado del partido.",367.48,376.48,{"idx":554,"utterance_id":555,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":556,"start_s":557,"end_s":558,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},58,"150240","Por lo tanto, no hubo pelea.",376.82,378.14,{"idx":560,"utterance_id":561,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":562,"start_s":563,"end_s":564,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},59,"150241","Hubo diferenciación de caminos y desafiliación.",378.5,381.36,{"idx":566,"utterance_id":567,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":568,"start_s":569,"end_s":570,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},60,"150242","Sigo dialogando con todos ellos con mucha tranquilidad y respeto, aunque con caminos distintos.",381.94,389.08,{"idx":572,"utterance_id":573,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":574,"start_s":575,"end_s":576,"word_count":251,"indexable":181},61,"150243","Aécio Neves, en esta elección, apoya a Alexandre Calil y yo respeto su decisión.",389.52,395.34,{"idx":578,"utterance_id":579,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":580,"start_s":581,"end_s":582,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},62,"150244","Alexandre Calil es alguien que presidió el Clube Atlético Mineiro, donde yo fui asesor de la presidencia.",396.2,401.58,{"idx":584,"utterance_id":585,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":586,"start_s":587,"end_s":588,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},63,"150245","En 2016, cuando disputé por primera vez una elección y yo... aspiraba a un cargo de concejal, él compitió en la elección a alcalde.",402.2,410.84,{"idx":590,"utterance_id":591,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":592,"start_s":593,"end_s":594,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},64,"150246","Participé en la coordinación de su campaña y ambos fuimos elegidos.",410.86,414.16,{"idx":596,"utterance_id":597,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":598,"start_s":599,"end_s":600,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},65,"150247","Llegó la elección para la presidencia de la Cámara Municipal.",414.68,417.56,{"idx":602,"utterance_id":603,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":604,"start_s":605,"end_s":606,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},66,"150248","Prácticamente había un empate de 20 a 20 concejales y yo podría ser el voto decisivo.",418.08,424.2,{"idx":608,"utterance_id":609,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":610,"start_s":611,"end_s":612,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},67,"150249","Y entonces el alcalde electo quería que yo apoyara a un político que llevaba una tobillera electrónica.",424.82,431.06,{"idx":614,"utterance_id":615,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":616,"start_s":617,"end_s":618,"word_count":196,"indexable":181},68,"150250","Dije que no.",431.54,432.04,{"idx":620,"utterance_id":621,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":622,"start_s":623,"end_s":624,"word_count":404,"indexable":181},69,"150251","Y decidí, por tanto, desde ese momento, romper con el entonces alcalde electo, porque no daría mi voto, el primer acto de un concejal electo, a alguien a quien la policía había puesto tras las rejas.",432.6,443.34,{"idx":626,"utterance_id":627,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":628,"start_s":629,"end_s":630,"word_count":443,"indexable":181},70,"150252","Y en un tercer momento, Marcelo Aro, todo el mundo conoce bien la historia, hubo un acuerdo para la elección de la presidencia de la Cámara, en que yo estaría un año en la presidencia y luego pasaría un año al vicepresidente de entonces.",444,459.2,{"idx":632,"utterance_id":633,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":634,"start_s":635,"end_s":636,"word_count":367,"indexable":181},71,"150253","Con ocho meses de mi mandato como presidente, se articuló en mi contra un proceso de destitución porque había dado una entrevista en el micrófono de Itatiaia, criticando, por cierto, a una concejala.",459.66,472.06,{"idx":638,"utterance_id":639,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":640,"start_s":641,"end_s":642,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},72,"150254","Y eso fue motivo para que intentaran alejarme, rompiendo... Por tanto, el acuerdo que me dejaría un año en la presidencia quedó en solo ocho.",472.56,481.12,{"idx":644,"utterance_id":645,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":646,"start_s":647,"end_s":648,"word_count":227,"indexable":181},73,"150255","Puede analizar los hechos y los datos con esos tres protagonistas y todo lo que estoy diciendo aquí se confirma con la realidad.",481.14,488.36,{"idx":650,"utterance_id":651,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":652,"start_s":653,"end_s":654,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},74,"150256","Por lo tanto, no fui exactamente yo quien rompió lo acordado.",488.42,492.86,{"idx":656,"utterance_id":657,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":658,"start_s":659,"end_s":660,"word_count":196,"indexable":181},75,"150257","Fueron otros hechos.",493.26,495.02,{"idx":662,"utterance_id":663,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":664,"start_s":665,"end_s":666,"word_count":214,"indexable":181},76,"150258","Y lo que sé es que nunca dejé de defender mis principios por culpa de un partido.",495.54,500.96,{"idx":668,"utterance_id":669,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":670,"start_s":671,"end_s":672,"word_count":251,"indexable":181},77,"150259","Pero sí dejé de apoyar a algunos partidos para mantener mis principios.",501.5,506.58,{"idx":674,"utterance_id":675,"speaker_name":176,"text":676,"start_s":677,"end_s":678,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},78,"150260","Paso la palabra ahora a Edilene Lopes, en directo desde Brasilia.",507.06,509.88,{"idx":680,"utterance_id":681,"speaker_name":176,"text":682,"start_s":683,"end_s":684,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},79,"150261","Edilene.",509.94,510.22,{"idx":686,"utterance_id":687,"speaker_name":176,"text":688,"start_s":689,"end_s":690,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},80,"150262","Buenas noches, Gabriel, Yuri, Caio y a nuestra audiencia.",511.14,514.44,{"idx":692,"utterance_id":693,"speaker_name":176,"text":694,"start_s":695,"end_s":696,"word_count":470,"indexable":181},81,"150263","Gabriel, haría ahora otra pregunta, pero aprovechando la pista dada por Caio en la pregunta que hizo la semana pasada, después de una sabatina en Belo Horizonte, el candidato a la reelección, Matheus Simões, acusó al señor de grabar conversaciones con otros políticos.",514.48,529.94,{"idx":698,"utterance_id":699,"speaker_name":176,"text":700,"start_s":701,"end_s":702,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},82,"150264","¿Cuál es la respuesta del señor a esa acusación hecha por él?",530.28,532.74,{"idx":704,"utterance_id":705,"speaker_name":176,"text":706,"start_s":707,"end_s":708,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},83,"150265","Aprovechando que estamos en el capítulo de las intrigas.",533.58,535.68,{"idx":710,"utterance_id":711,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":712,"start_s":713,"end_s":714,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},84,"150266","Claro, por favor, Edilene, conoces bien la historia.",538.72,541.22,{"idx":716,"utterance_id":717,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":718,"start_s":719,"end_s":720,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},85,"150267","Mujeres que están siendo víctimas de agresiones o violencias, por favor, graben a quien les esté haciendo eso.",542.72,549.66,{"idx":722,"utterance_id":723,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":724,"start_s":725,"end_s":726,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},86,"150268","Cuando alguien ve a un animal sufriendo algún tipo de maltrato, grabe también al canalla que lo está haciendo.",550.08,555.78,{"idx":728,"utterance_id":729,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":730,"start_s":731,"end_s":732,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},87,"150269","En mi caso, fueron dos veces.",556.22,557.86,{"idx":734,"utterance_id":735,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":736,"start_s":737,"end_s":738,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},88,"150270","Era concejal en mi primer mandato y el entonces alcalde Alexandre Cario estaba articulando mi destitución.",558.38,565.36,{"idx":740,"utterance_id":741,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":742,"start_s":743,"end_s":744,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},89,"150271","Y en ese sentido... Ofreció a un concejal que buscaba aliarse con él una plaza en la base del Clube Atlético Mineiro para el hijo de ese concejal.",565.96,576,{"idx":746,"utterance_id":747,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":748,"start_s":749,"end_s":750,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},90,"150272","Entonces hice una grabación para demostrar que se estaba articulando un gran complot contra mi mandato.",576.46,583.9,{"idx":752,"utterance_id":753,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":754,"start_s":755,"end_s":756,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},91,"150273","En segundo lugar, un concejal admitió que también había una articulación para revocar mi mandato.",584.56,592.1,{"idx":758,"utterance_id":759,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":760,"start_s":761,"end_s":762,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},92,"150274","Y esa fue la segunda grabación.",592.36,594.6,{"idx":764,"utterance_id":765,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":766,"start_s":767,"end_s":768,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},93,"150275","No creo que grabar sea algo que se haga en el ámbito político, sobre todo en un ambiente de confianza.",595.32,600.46,{"idx":770,"utterance_id":771,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":772,"start_s":773,"end_s":774,"word_count":227,"indexable":181},94,"150276","Y es por eso que hoy tengo una sigla, estoy afiliado a un partido, soy candidato y gozo de la confianza de muchos políticos.",600.88,607.74,{"idx":776,"utterance_id":777,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":778,"start_s":779,"end_s":780,"word_count":251,"indexable":181},95,"150277","Fueron medidas extremas y que no tengo exactamente por costumbre hacer.",608.24,612.86,{"idx":782,"utterance_id":783,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":784,"start_s":785,"end_s":786,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},96,"150278","Pero era mi vida política, Edilene.",613.46,615.8,{"idx":788,"utterance_id":789,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":790,"start_s":791,"end_s":792,"word_count":265,"indexable":181},97,"150279","Una vez destituido, perdería ocho años de mandato, ocho años de derechos políticos.",616.2,621.48,{"idx":794,"utterance_id":795,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":796,"start_s":797,"end_s":798,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},98,"150280","Y eso ciertamente acabaría con mi carrera.",622,624.22,{"idx":800,"utterance_id":801,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":802,"start_s":803,"end_s":804,"word_count":524,"indexable":181},99,"150281","Lo que puedo decirte es que, siendo un concejal que se enfrentó a empresas de transporte, siendo un concejal que enfrentó los más diversos intereses, siendo un concejal que estaba en una Cámara Municipal, acostumbrado a ver presidentes siendo llevados por la policía, desvíos, casos de corrupción, y que estoy en la vida pública desde hace 20 años.",624.86,645.86,{"idx":806,"utterance_id":807,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":808,"start_s":809,"end_s":810,"word_count":227,"indexable":181},100,"150282","Sin ninguna mancha de proceso por corrupción, sin ninguna negociata, sin ningún crimen, no ha hecho precisamente que mi vida haya sido un paseo.",646.34,655.52,{"idx":812,"utterance_id":813,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":814,"start_s":815,"end_s":816,"word_count":15,"indexable":181},101,"150283","No soy heredero, nunca recibí un mandato de regalo de nadie y todo fue conquistado con mucha dedicación y muchas solicitudes de voto al ciudadano que me otorgó ese poder de representación.",655.92,667.74,{"idx":818,"utterance_id":819,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":820,"start_s":821,"end_s":822,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},102,"150284","Lo sabes muy bien, Adilene, que me acompaña aquí desde temprano.",668.48,671.26,{"idx":824,"utterance_id":825,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":826,"start_s":827,"end_s":828,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},103,"150285","Puede haber polémica, puede haber disputa.",671.88,674.46,{"idx":830,"utterance_id":831,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":832,"start_s":833,"end_s":834,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},104,"150286","Pero no hay chanchullo.",675.02,676.42,{"idx":836,"utterance_id":837,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":838,"start_s":839,"end_s":840,"word_count":196,"indexable":181},105,"150287","No hay corrupción.",677.14,678.14,{"idx":842,"utterance_id":843,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":844,"start_s":845,"end_s":846,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},106,"150288","Eso siempre lo digo.",678.74,679.58,{"idx":848,"utterance_id":849,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":850,"start_s":851,"end_s":852,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},107,"150289","Y te diría más, Edilene, sabes que la juventud es algo que la política va corrigiendo con el tiempo.",680.2,686.06,{"idx":854,"utterance_id":855,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":856,"start_s":857,"end_s":858,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},108,"150290","Después de todo esto, decidí, obviamente, tranquilizarme un poco más en las relaciones.",686.64,692,{"idx":860,"utterance_id":861,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":862,"start_s":863,"end_s":864,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},109,"150291","Se puede conseguir lo que queremos.",692.44,693.74,{"idx":866,"utterance_id":867,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":868,"start_s":869,"end_s":870,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":871,"target_proposition":872,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":873,"indexable":337},110,"150292","Educación de calidad, salud que funcione, movilidad que nos transporte con calidad, sin necesariamente gastar tanto tiempo en peleas innecesarias.",694.24,702.92,"372a3caf-3f99-4f27-96a2-aa2497b7b2a8","mejorar la calidad de la educación","enumera 'educação de qualidade' como objetivo de gobierno.",{"idx":875,"utterance_id":876,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":877,"start_s":878,"end_s":879,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},111,"150293","Tengo 40 años, 20 fueron dedicados a la vida pública y he ido madurando.",702.94,708.56,{"idx":881,"utterance_id":882,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":883,"start_s":884,"end_s":885,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},112,"150294","La madurez viene porque sé que quien no cambia, no cambia nada.",708.9,712.26,{"idx":887,"utterance_id":888,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":889,"start_s":890,"end_s":891,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},113,"150295","Quiero cambiar la historia de Minas Gerais.",712.74,714.26,{"idx":893,"utterance_id":894,"speaker_name":176,"text":895,"start_s":896,"end_s":897,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},114,"150296","Exacto.",714.98,715.34,{"idx":899,"utterance_id":900,"speaker_name":176,"text":901,"start_s":902,"end_s":903,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},115,"150297","Permítame aprovechar ese punto que usted planteó, fue rescatando su trayectoria y usted dijo que aprendió a dialogar con más sectores.",715.4,723.46,{"idx":905,"utterance_id":906,"speaker_name":176,"text":907,"start_s":908,"end_s":909,"word_count":397,"indexable":181},116,"150298","Hubo mucho diálogo, muchos intentos de articulación para que hubiera una composición entre sus pretensiones como candidato a gobernador y una eventual coalición con el PT, que acabó por decidir lanzar candidato propio.",724.1,739.44,{"idx":911,"utterance_id":912,"speaker_name":176,"text":913,"start_s":914,"end_s":915,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},117,"150299","La exalcaldesa de Contagem, Marília Campos, fue una de las principales articuladoras; defendió públicamente el apoyo.",740.52,748.28,{"idx":917,"utterance_id":918,"speaker_name":176,"text":919,"start_s":920,"end_s":921,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},118,"150300","su candidatura a gobernador.",748.98,750.78,{"idx":923,"utterance_id":924,"speaker_name":176,"text":925,"start_s":926,"end_s":927,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},119,"150301","Quisiera entender un poco, en su evaluación, por qué esta articulación no funcionó, ¿fue intransigencia del PT, usted estaba dispuesto a hacer esa articulación?",751.48,761.52,{"idx":929,"utterance_id":930,"speaker_name":176,"text":931,"start_s":932,"end_s":933,"word_count":367,"indexable":181},120,"150302","Y ¿qué pasa con el elector que lo vio a usted, como dijo, militar en el PSDB, en el campo opuesto al PT, pasar por otros partidos y ahora estar en el MDB?",761.98,773.62,{"idx":935,"utterance_id":936,"speaker_name":176,"text":937,"start_s":938,"end_s":939,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},121,"150303","que es un partido que también tiene historial de alianzas, pero de rupturas con el PT, especialmente después del impeachment de 2016.",774.24,781.26,{"idx":941,"utterance_id":942,"speaker_name":176,"text":943,"start_s":944,"end_s":945,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},122,"150304","¿Cómo percibe el elector de Minas Gerais esos movimientos?",781.58,785.26,{"idx":947,"utterance_id":948,"speaker_name":176,"text":949,"start_s":950,"end_s":951,"word_count":263,"indexable":181},123,"150305","¿No da la impresión de que hubo una... Usted dijo que tiene convicción con sus principios, pero ¿no parece que también hubo una especie de casi alianza de connivencia para este momento?",785.4,797.62,{"idx":953,"utterance_id":954,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":955,"start_s":956,"end_s":957,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},124,"150306","Al contrario, mi estimado, siempre dije que Minas Gerais no puede reducirse a ser un palco para la disputa presidencial.",801.14,808.56,{"idx":959,"utterance_id":960,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":961,"start_s":962,"end_s":963,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},125,"150307","Ahora, no puedo quejarme de cuánto otros candidatos vieron en mí algunos atributos que hicieron que me invitaran a componer alianzas.",809.18,818.1,{"idx":965,"utterance_id":966,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":967,"start_s":968,"end_s":969,"word_count":265,"indexable":181},126,"150308","Puedo contarle, de la derecha a la izquierda, cómo esas conversaciones fueron abundantes.",818.58,823.42,{"idx":971,"utterance_id":972,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":973,"start_s":974,"end_s":975,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},127,"150309","El senador Cleitinho Azevedo, lo dice a todo el mundo, me invitó a ser su vicepresidente.",824.04,829.5,{"idx":977,"utterance_id":978,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":979,"start_s":980,"end_s":981,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},128,"150310","El actual gobernador, Matheus Simões, me invitó a ser su vicepresidente.",830.08,834.88,{"idx":983,"utterance_id":984,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":985,"start_s":986,"end_s":987,"word_count":240,"indexable":181},129,"150311","La senadora Marília Campos, no es un secreto para nadie, publicó una carta diciendo que una candidatura propia del PT no tendría sentido.",835.58,843.96,{"idx":989,"utterance_id":990,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":991,"start_s":992,"end_s":993,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},130,"150312","Además, si el propio Partido de los Trabajadores, dijo ella, quisiera superar la tragedia que fue el gobierno de Fernando Pimentel, debería buscar un frente más amplio.",844.38,854.68,{"idx":995,"utterance_id":996,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":997,"start_s":998,"end_s":999,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},131,"150313","Y, por lo tanto, hablé con absolutamente todo el mundo, porque eso siempre fue una característica mía.",854.98,860.44,{"idx":1001,"utterance_id":1002,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1003,"start_s":1004,"end_s":1005,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},132,"150314","No renuncio a convicciones.",860.8,862.28,{"idx":1007,"utterance_id":1008,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1009,"start_s":1010,"end_s":1011,"word_count":15,"indexable":181},133,"150315","Y lo digo con mucha claridad: sentarse a la mesa para conversar con la gente, con las personas más diversas, es la prueba más contundente de que uno no renuncia a sus convicciones.",862.88,872.08,{"idx":62,"utterance_id":1013,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1014,"start_s":1015,"end_s":1016,"word_count":240,"indexable":181},"150316","Solo quien es muy cobarde o poco... seguro de lo que cree, no se sienta a la mesa con los demás.",872.56,879.36,{"idx":1018,"utterance_id":1019,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1020,"start_s":1021,"end_s":1022,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},135,"150317","Y para ser gobernador de Minas Gerais, un Estado enredado con una deuda multimillonaria, siendo demócrata, no avanzamos sin conversar con las instituciones.",879.84,889.48,{"idx":1024,"utterance_id":1025,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1026,"start_s":1027,"end_s":1028,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},136,"150318","Eso exige diálogo con la Asamblea, que tiene 77 diputados estatales, de las más diversas fuerzas políticas.",889.98,895.8,{"idx":1030,"utterance_id":1031,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1032,"start_s":1033,"end_s":1034,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},137,"150319","Exige diálogo con la bancada federal, 53 diputados federales y 3 senadores.",896.36,901.24,{"idx":1036,"utterance_id":1037,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1038,"start_s":1039,"end_s":1040,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},138,"150320","La Presidencia de la República, el Tribunal de Justicia, el Ministerio Público, conversar nunca fue un problema para mí.",901.64,907.76,{"idx":51,"utterance_id":1042,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1043,"start_s":1044,"end_s":1045,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},"150321","Yo dialogo.",908.18,908.72,{"idx":1047,"utterance_id":1048,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1049,"start_s":1050,"end_s":1051,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},140,"150322","Ahora, creo que de mi parte siempre hubo una convicción.",909.22,912.86,{"idx":1053,"utterance_id":1054,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1055,"start_s":1056,"end_s":1057,"word_count":251,"indexable":181},141,"150323","Más importante que las alianzas sería la elaboración de un plan de gobierno.",913.44,918.1,{"idx":1059,"utterance_id":1060,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1061,"start_s":1062,"end_s":1063,"word_count":265,"indexable":181},142,"150324","Y por eso invité al economista Marcos Lisboa para que fuera nuestro coordinador.",918.72,923.4,{"idx":1065,"utterance_id":1066,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1067,"start_s":1068,"end_s":1069,"word_count":572,"indexable":181},143,"150325","Es decir, a lo largo del proceso, mientras mucha gente se preocupaba mucho por las alianzas, por el tiempo en televisión, mi preocupación con Minas Gerais era muy clara y basta con que cualquiera entre ahora en gabriel15.com y acceda a nuestro plan de gobierno, que por cierto fue evaluado por la propia Itatiaia como el mejor plan de gobierno entre los candidatos.",923.96,946.14,{"idx":1071,"utterance_id":1072,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1073,"start_s":1074,"end_s":1075,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},144,"150326","Estoy 13 puntos por delante del segundo colocado.",946.16,949.38,{"idx":1077,"utterance_id":1078,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1079,"start_s":1080,"end_s":1081,"word_count":397,"indexable":181},145,"150327","Eso para mí es tener las convicciones que el elector merece, porque en esa sopa de siglas partidarias, mi estimado, lo que le importa al elector... y esto, las encuestas lo muestran, es un gobernador independiente.",949.78,962.84,{"idx":1083,"utterance_id":1084,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1085,"start_s":1086,"end_s":1087,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},146,"150328","Y para ser independiente, no puedes tener miedo de conversar con nadie, de probar las posibilidades de alianza.",963.12,968.66,{"idx":1089,"utterance_id":1090,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1091,"start_s":1092,"end_s":1093,"word_count":265,"indexable":181},147,"150329","El pueblo de Minas ya está cansado de esa historia de gente que no conversa con los demás.",969.2,974.26,{"idx":1095,"utterance_id":1096,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1097,"start_s":1098,"end_s":1099,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},148,"150330","Yo converso con todo el mundo, sí, sin perder la convicción.",974.4,977.18,{"idx":39,"utterance_id":1101,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1102,"start_s":1103,"end_s":1104,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},"150331","Caio, ¿quién es su candidato a presidente?",977.6,979.74,{"idx":1106,"utterance_id":1107,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1108,"start_s":1109,"end_s":1110,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":1111,"topic_label":88,"target_id":1112,"target_proposition":1113,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":375,"rationale":1114,"indexable":337},150,"150332","El MDB decidió por la neutralidad y yo voy a acompañar la neutralidad del MDB.",983.36,987.48,"filiacao-partidaria","886af7fa-8605-4f90-8c5e-3939a6310887","mantener la neutralidad partidaria del MDB en la elección presidencial","declara seguir explícitamente la decisión del MDB de neutralidad.",{"idx":1116,"utterance_id":1117,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1118,"start_s":1119,"end_s":1120,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},151,"150333","¿Pero eso equivale a anular el voto?",987.84,989.68,{"idx":1122,"utterance_id":1123,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1124,"start_s":1125,"end_s":1126,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},152,"150334","No.",993.5,993.64,{"idx":1128,"utterance_id":1129,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1130,"start_s":1131,"end_s":1132,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},153,"150335","es comprender que el elector de Minas quiere un gobernador que dialogue con cualquier presidente, que es lo que yo haré.",994.02,1000.28,{"idx":1134,"utterance_id":1135,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1136,"start_s":1137,"end_s":1138,"word_count":378,"indexable":181},154,"150336","Y a partir del momento en que yo declare el voto, tendré una enorme cantidad de personas en Minas Gerais que dejarán de prestar atención a lo que digo.",1000.78,1008.1,{"idx":1140,"utterance_id":1141,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1142,"start_s":1143,"end_s":1144,"word_count":404,"topic_slug":1145,"topic_label":1146,"target_id":1147,"target_proposition":1148,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":1149,"indexable":337},155,"150337","Y cuando afirmo que quiero hacer ferrocarriles, ya hay 20.000 millones allá en el gobierno federal para quien quiera construir ferrovías en Minas Gerais; quiero que el elector de Minas preste atención a ese punto.",1008.8,1020.02,"politica-de-transporte","Política de Transporte","384c797c-86bf-4699-8a39-bf7630742108","mejorar infraestructura","afirma querer 'fazer ferrovia' y menciona recursos federales disponibles.",{"idx":1151,"utterance_id":1152,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1153,"start_s":1154,"end_s":1155,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":1156,"topic_label":1157,"target_id":1158,"target_proposition":1159,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":375,"rationale":1160,"indexable":337},156,"150338","Cuando digo que quiero resolver el feminicidio, y necesito hacer un acuerdo con el gobierno federal y firmar el pacto contra el feminicidio, quiero que el elector de Minas preste atención a eso.",1020.82,1030.18,"violencia-contra-a-mulher-e-protecao-as-mulheres","Violencia contra la mujer y protección","e51ec9a2-7b69-4edc-8930-95d462945fe6","firmar un pacto para el enfrentamiento al feminicidio","dice que hace falta 'assinar o pacto pelo feminicídio' para resolver el problema.",{"idx":1162,"utterance_id":1163,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1164,"start_s":1165,"end_s":1166,"word_count":251,"indexable":181},157,"150339","Y no que me coloquen en una cajita de partidario de este o aquel candidato.",1030.52,1034.56,{"idx":1168,"utterance_id":1169,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1170,"start_s":1171,"end_s":1172,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},158,"150340","Además, le digo más: camino por la calle en Montes Claros, se acerca alguien y me dice, voy a votar por Lula y voy a votar por usted.",1034.6,1041.72,{"idx":1174,"utterance_id":1175,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1176,"start_s":1177,"end_s":1178,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},159,"150341","Con el mayor gusto recibo los votos.",1042.44,1044.16,{"idx":1180,"utterance_id":1181,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1182,"start_s":1183,"end_s":1184,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},160,"150342","con agradecimiento.",1044.24,1045.48,{"idx":1186,"utterance_id":1187,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1188,"start_s":1189,"end_s":1190,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},161,"150343","Estaba paseando por el Triángulo.",1045.7,1047.42,{"idx":1192,"utterance_id":1193,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1194,"start_s":1195,"end_s":1196,"word_count":214,"indexable":181},162,"150344","este fin de semana haciendo campaña, en Uberlândia me dijeron que iban a votar por mí y por Flávio Bolsonaro.",1047.46,1053.06,{"idx":1198,"utterance_id":1199,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1200,"start_s":1201,"end_s":1202,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},163,"150345","Agradezco el voto.",1053.5,1054.48,{"idx":1204,"utterance_id":1205,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1206,"start_s":1207,"end_s":1208,"word_count":367,"indexable":181},164,"150346","Y si van a votar por Caiado, por Zema, por Cury y quieren votar por mí, son muy bienvenidos, porque cuando uno se convierte en gobernador, uno vota y gobierna para todos.",1054.62,1064.64,{"idx":1210,"utterance_id":1211,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1212,"start_s":1213,"end_s":1214,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},165,"150347","Para aquellos que votaron por Flávio, por Lula.",1064.9,1066.92,{"idx":1216,"utterance_id":1217,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1218,"start_s":1219,"end_s":1220,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},166,"150348","Y por eso, mi estimado, aquí hay un candidato a gobernador.",1067.32,1070.06,{"idx":1222,"utterance_id":1223,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1224,"start_s":1225,"end_s":1226,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},167,"150349","Y es sobre los problemas de Minas que voy a hablar.",1070.64,1072.46,{"idx":1228,"utterance_id":1229,"speaker_name":176,"text":1230,"start_s":1231,"end_s":1232,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},168,"150350","Edilene?",1073.16,1073.6,{"idx":1234,"utterance_id":1235,"speaker_name":176,"text":1236,"start_s":1237,"end_s":1238,"word_count":425,"indexable":181},169,"150351","Aprovechando una vez más el gancho, en sintonía con la pregunta de Caio, el único oriundo de Minas Gerais entre los presidenciables que puntúan en las encuestas es el exgobernador Romeu Zema, que además ayer decidió no participar en el debate de Bande.",1074.74,1088.2,{"idx":1240,"utterance_id":1241,"speaker_name":176,"text":1242,"start_s":1243,"end_s":1244,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},170,"150352","Usted es del MDB, un partido que no tiene candidato a la Presidencia de la República.",1088.7,1092.8,{"idx":1246,"utterance_id":1247,"speaker_name":176,"text":1248,"start_s":1249,"end_s":1250,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},171,"150353","Entonces, son dos preguntas, una pregunta compuesta.",1092.86,1095.26,{"idx":1252,"utterance_id":1253,"speaker_name":176,"text":1254,"start_s":1255,"end_s":1256,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},172,"150354","Primero, ¿cómo evalúa usted la postura del gobernador Romeu Zema ayer respecto al debate?",1095.32,1100.56,{"idx":1258,"utterance_id":1259,"speaker_name":176,"text":1260,"start_s":1261,"end_s":1262,"word_count":214,"indexable":181},173,"150355","Segundo, para usted, ¿no tener un candidato a la Presidencia de la República es bueno o malo en un escenario polarizado?",1100.66,1106.62,{"idx":1264,"utterance_id":1265,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1266,"start_s":1267,"end_s":1268,"word_count":240,"indexable":181},174,"150356","Edilene, la mayor parte de los habitantes de Minas, según las encuestas a las que tuve acceso, quieren un gobernador que sea independiente.",1110.96,1116.88,{"idx":1270,"utterance_id":1271,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1272,"start_s":1273,"end_s":1274,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},175,"150357","Eso quiere decir que no apoye determinado candidato a presidente porque la gente de Minas está cansada de esas incompatibilidades.",1117.82,1124.6,{"idx":1276,"utterance_id":1277,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1278,"start_s":1279,"end_s":1280,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},176,"150358","Dos incompatibilidades.",1124.84,1126.04,{"idx":1282,"utterance_id":1283,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1284,"start_s":1285,"end_s":1286,"word_count":214,"indexable":181},177,"150359","Tuvimos casos de amistades entre el gobernador y el presidente: Fernando Pimentel y Dilma, Zema y Jair Bolsonaro.",1126.44,1134.54,{"idx":45,"utterance_id":1288,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1289,"start_s":1290,"end_s":1291,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},"150360","Y no pasó nada bueno, casi nada.",1135,1136.82,{"idx":1293,"utterance_id":1294,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1295,"start_s":1296,"end_s":1297,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},179,"150361","De la misma manera, tuvimos el caso de gobernadores que peleaban con el presidente, ahí es cuando la cosa se pone terrible.",1137.24,1142.86,{"idx":1299,"utterance_id":1300,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1301,"start_s":1302,"end_s":1303,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},180,"150362","Así que creo que ser alguien independiente atrae más atención desde los más diversos prismas ideológicos y posiciones entre el pueblo de Minas.",1143.2,1151.82,{"idx":1305,"utterance_id":1306,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1307,"start_s":1308,"end_s":1309,"word_count":524,"topic_slug":1310,"topic_label":1311,"target_id":1312,"target_proposition":1313,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":1314,"indexable":337},181,"150363","Porque cuando digo que tenemos que tener una fila que sea visible y que la familia no reciba un mensaje después de que el paciente esté muerto para hacer la cirugía, no estoy haciendo demagogia aquí, ni diciendo que una cirugía va a ser de izquierda o de derecha, lulista o bolsonarista.",1152.1,1168.18,"saude-publica-e-infraestrutura-hospitalar","Salud pública y infraestructura hospitalaria","ddf48161-a959-495c-a59d-8edc63e170b8","mejorar la red pública de salud (hospitales y UBS)","defiende tener una fila visible y evitar mensajes tras muertes por cirugías retrasadas.",{"idx":1316,"utterance_id":1317,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1318,"start_s":1319,"end_s":1320,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},182,"150364","Quiero al paciente operado.",1168.24,1169.8,{"idx":1322,"utterance_id":1323,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1324,"start_s":1325,"end_s":1326,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},183,"150365","De eso es de lo que quiero hablar.",1170.2,1171.44,{"idx":1328,"utterance_id":1329,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1330,"start_s":1331,"end_s":1332,"word_count":214,"indexable":181},184,"150366","En relación al movimiento democrático brasileño, ayudé en la construcción del plan programático que la Fundação Ulisses Guimarães preparó.",1171.9,1179.92,{"idx":1334,"utterance_id":1335,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1336,"start_s":1337,"end_s":1338,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},185,"150367","Soy el presidente de la Fundação Ulisses Guimarães aquí en Minas Gerais.",1179.94,1183.16,{"idx":1340,"utterance_id":1341,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1342,"start_s":1343,"end_s":1344,"word_count":234,"topic_slug":1345,"topic_label":1346,"target_id":1347,"target_proposition":1348,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":1349,"indexable":337},186,"150368","Y, por supuesto, deseaba mucho que nuestro partido tuviera un candidato para representar ese plan.",1183.62,1188.48,"eleicoes-presidenciais","Elecciones presidenciales","5f03d128-faf9-4389-85a8-3061ec4a6315","lanzar candidatura puro-sangre del partido Missão","dice que deseaba que el partido tuviera un candidato y habla del objetivo a futuro.",{"idx":1351,"utterance_id":1352,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1353,"start_s":1354,"end_s":1355,"word_count":263,"topic_slug":1345,"topic_label":1346,"target_id":1347,"target_proposition":1348,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":335,"rationale":1356,"indexable":337},187,"150369","Eso no fue posible en 2026, pero hablo mucho con el presidente Baleia Rossi y con otros integrantes de la legend para que en 2030 eso no se repita.",1188.88,1198.04,"relata conversaciones con dirigentes para evitar la ausencia de candidatura en 2030.",{"idx":1358,"utterance_id":1359,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1360,"start_s":1361,"end_s":1362,"word_count":300,"topic_slug":1345,"topic_label":1346,"target_id":1347,"target_proposition":1348,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":1363,"indexable":337},188,"150370","Es fundamental que dentro de cuatro años el proyecto de nuestro partido consiga, en las urnas, la representación de un nombre.",1198.42,1206.66,"afirma que es fundamental que el partido tenga representación en las urnas dentro de cuatro años.",{"idx":1365,"utterance_id":1366,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1367,"start_s":1368,"end_s":1369,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":1345,"topic_label":1346,"target_id":1347,"target_proposition":1348,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":364,"rationale":1370,"indexable":337},189,"150371","Y es también por eso que voy a trabajar durante los próximos cuatro años.",1207.04,1210.32,"se compromete a trabajar en los próximos cuatro años para ese objetivo.",{"idx":11,"utterance_id":1372,"speaker_name":176,"text":1373,"start_s":1374,"end_s":1375,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},"150372","Sobre Zema ayer en el debate.",1211.56,1213.1,{"idx":1377,"utterance_id":1378,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1379,"start_s":1380,"end_s":1381,"word_count":196,"indexable":181},191,"150373","Ah, perdón, Edilene.",1216.48,1217.3,{"idx":1383,"utterance_id":1384,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1385,"start_s":1386,"end_s":1387,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":1390,"target_proposition":1391,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1392,"rationale":1393,"indexable":337},192,"150374","Sobre Zema, mira... Lo que puedo decir es lo siguiente: como candidato, estaré presente en toda entrevista, en toda sabatina, en todo debate.",1217.36,1228.3,"programa-eleitoral","Programa Electoral","0fd2daa2-414f-4048-a76b-f4f05c56a017","participar en debates, entrevistas y sabatinas durante la campaña",0.95,"declara explícitamente que, como candidato, estará presente en todas las sabatinas y debates.",{"idx":1395,"utterance_id":1396,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1397,"start_s":1398,"end_s":1399,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},193,"150375","Porque en el debate, Adelene, no hay teleprompter, no hay diferencia en recursos de campaña; somos nosotros, nuestra verdad, nuestras propuestas y el elector.",1228.9,1238.68,{"idx":1401,"utterance_id":1402,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1403,"start_s":1404,"end_s":1405,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},194,"150376","Quien no va al debate, o no sabe qué decir, o dice lo que no sabe.",1239.26,1244.74,{"idx":1407,"utterance_id":1408,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1409,"start_s":1410,"end_s":1411,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},195,"150377","Las personas deben tener, como candidatos, una característica que para mí es fundamental en la política.",1245.38,1249.92,{"idx":1413,"utterance_id":1414,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1415,"start_s":1416,"end_s":1417,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},196,"150378","Coraje.",1250.4,1250.9,{"idx":56,"utterance_id":1419,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1420,"start_s":1421,"end_s":1422,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},"150379","Quien no va a un debate, no es valiente.",1251.56,1253.76,{"idx":1424,"utterance_id":1425,"speaker_name":176,"text":1426,"start_s":1427,"end_s":1428,"word_count":425,"indexable":181},198,"150380","Candidato, hablando de algunas cuestiones que usted ha expuesto, incluso en sus redes y dentro de su programa de gobierno, usted destaca y ya escribió sobre la propuesta de tarifa cero en el transporte público.",1254.98,1270.68,{"idx":1430,"utterance_id":1431,"speaker_name":176,"text":1432,"start_s":1433,"end_s":1434,"word_count":240,"indexable":181},199,"150381","Y usted comenzó nuestra entrevista aquí hablando de la importancia de tener las cuentas en orden, las cuentas públicas en orden.",1270.72,1278.08,{"idx":1436,"utterance_id":1437,"speaker_name":176,"text":1438,"start_s":1439,"end_s":1440,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},200,"150382","Usted hizo mención al estado actual del presupuesto de Minas Gerais.",1278.1,1282.92,{"idx":1442,"utterance_id":1443,"speaker_name":176,"text":1444,"start_s":1445,"end_s":1446,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},201,"150383","¿Cómo conciliar las dos propuestas?",1283.96,1286.1,{"idx":1448,"utterance_id":1449,"speaker_name":176,"text":1450,"start_s":1451,"end_s":1452,"word_count":227,"indexable":181},202,"150384","En el siguiente punto: usted no está hablando de tarifa cero generalizada, hablaba específicamente de una política para la capital, Belo Horizonte.",1286.6,1294.94,{"idx":1454,"utterance_id":1455,"speaker_name":176,"text":1456,"start_s":1457,"end_s":1458,"word_count":464,"indexable":181},203,"150385","Pero ¿es posible pensar en algo mayor y cómo hacer para que ese algo mayor, de más acceso al transporte público, no se convierta también en un problema desde el punto de vista fiscal, dado que eso ya sucedió en grandes ciudades de Brasil?",1295.34,1312.14,{"idx":1460,"utterance_id":1461,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1462,"start_s":1463,"end_s":1464,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},204,"150386","Perfecto.",1314.04,1314.48,{"idx":1466,"utterance_id":1467,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1468,"start_s":1469,"end_s":1470,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},205,"150387","Amigo, gracias, porque esta, más que una pregunta, es una pasión.",1316.08,1318.84,{"idx":1472,"utterance_id":1473,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1474,"start_s":1475,"end_s":1476,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":1477,"topic_label":1478,"target_id":1479,"target_proposition":1480,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1481,"rationale":1482,"indexable":337},206,"150388","La movilidad urbana fue tema de mi tesis en la London School of Economics, y siendo concejal, de hecho implementé la Tarifa Cero en Belo Horizonte.",1319.14,1330.08,"mobilidade-urbana-e-logistica","Movilidad urbana y logística","c01dd1f5-8fbc-423f-89d3-9d654415f422","integrar el sistema tarifario e implementar políticas de pase gratuito",0.78,"reclama haber implementado la Tarifa Zero en Belo Horizonte mientras era concejal.",{"idx":1484,"utterance_id":1485,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1486,"start_s":1487,"end_s":1488,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},207,"150389","¿Para quién?",1330.34,1330.74,{"idx":1490,"utterance_id":1491,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1492,"start_s":1493,"end_s":1494,"word_count":404,"topic_slug":1477,"topic_label":1478,"target_id":1479,"target_proposition":1480,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":375,"rationale":1495,"indexable":337},208,"150390","Tarifa Cero para villas y favelas, Tarifa Cero para estudiantes de enseñanza media, Tarifa Cero para mujeres víctimas de violencia, para quienes están en tratamiento de cáncer y para quienes buscan empleo.",1331.44,1344.42,"lista grupos específicos que recibieron Tarifa Zero (villas\u002Fbarrios, estudiantes, mujeres víctimas).",{"idx":1497,"utterance_id":1498,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1499,"start_s":1500,"end_s":1501,"word_count":477,"topic_slug":1477,"topic_label":1478,"target_id":1502,"target_proposition":1503,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":1504,"indexable":337},209,"150391","Esa tarifa cero vino con la implementación del subsidio al sistema de transporte colectivo en la ciudad, en la que luché mucho siendo concejal para que no fuera simplemente un beneficio para el sector, sino que viniera acompañado de la compensación mediante medidas de calidad para el usuario.",1345.2,1360.74,"fc56b989-4bbe-4215-bd89-3419f6efc24c","subsidiar el transporte público condicionando contrapartidas de calidad para los usuarios","dice que la Tarifa Zero llegó junto con la implementación de subsidio y medidas de calidad.",{"idx":1506,"utterance_id":1507,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1508,"start_s":1509,"end_s":1510,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":1477,"topic_label":1478,"target_id":1502,"target_proposition":1503,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":335,"rationale":1511,"indexable":337},210,"150392","Aire acondicionado en los autobuses, vehículos de calidad, amplitud de horarios, porque cualquiera que estudie movilidad en el planeta percibe que el Estado necesita subsidiar.",1361.24,1370.8,"afirma que el Estado debe subsidiar y mejorar la calidad de los autobuses (aire acondicionado, horarios).",{"idx":1513,"utterance_id":1514,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1515,"start_s":1516,"end_s":1517,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},211,"150393","Y ahí vuelvo con el siguiente razonamiento.",1371.44,1373.88,{"idx":395,"utterance_id":1519,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1520,"start_s":1521,"end_s":1522,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},"150394","Bien, ¿y cómo cierran las cuentas?",1374.38,1376.48,{"idx":1524,"utterance_id":1525,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1526,"start_s":1527,"end_s":1528,"word_count":240,"topic_slug":1529,"topic_label":1530,"target_id":1502,"target_proposition":1503,"stance":345,"stance_confidence":1531,"rationale":1532,"indexable":181},213,"150395","Mi estimado, cuando este gobierno actual empezó, en 2019, eran alrededor de 6 mil millones de reales en subsidios e incentivos fiscales.",1376.94,1386.62,"orcamento-publico","Presupuesto público",0.72,"informa los montos de subsidios al inicio del gobierno y en la actualidad, sin proponerlos directamente.",{"idx":1534,"utterance_id":1535,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1536,"start_s":1537,"end_s":1538,"word_count":214,"topic_slug":1529,"topic_label":1530,"target_id":1502,"target_proposition":1503,"stance":345,"stance_confidence":1531,"rationale":1539,"indexable":181},214,"150396","Actualmente, estamos hablando de 26 mil millones de reales en subsidios e incentivos previstos para el próximo año.",1387.36,1395.42,"Cita el aumento previsto de subsidios para el año siguiente como dato informativo.",{"idx":1541,"utterance_id":1542,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1543,"start_s":1544,"end_s":1545,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":1546,"topic_label":1547,"target_id":1548,"target_proposition":1549,"stance":345,"stance_confidence":1550,"rationale":1551,"indexable":181},215,"150397","La última transparencia respecto al tema solo surgió por una decisión judicial.",1396.46,1403.04,"transparencia-e-sigilo-institucional","Transparencia y sigilo institucional","9048f758-1722-4fbe-8c1c-e86b9b8e1f61","publicar íntegramente los gastos y actos del gobierno",0.7,"Afirma que la última transparencia solo ocurrió por decisión judicial, describiendo el hecho.",{"idx":1553,"utterance_id":1554,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1555,"start_s":1556,"end_s":1557,"word_count":281,"topic_slug":1546,"topic_label":1547,"target_id":1548,"target_proposition":1549,"stance":345,"stance_confidence":1550,"rationale":1558,"indexable":181},216,"150398","Y ahí se observa que una de las empresas beneficiadas es la de la familia del exgobernador Romeu Zema.",1403.48,1409.26,"Señala que la empresa beneficiada pertenece a la familia del exgobernador, relatando la recepción del beneficio.",{"idx":1560,"utterance_id":1561,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1562,"start_s":1563,"end_s":1564,"word_count":404,"indexable":181},217,"150399","¿Cómo le explicas al ciudadano que es dueño de una panadería, dueño de una farmacia y a tanta gente que paga impuestos que hay unas 4.000 personas que no están pagando?",1409.82,1420.54,{"idx":1566,"utterance_id":1567,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1568,"start_s":1569,"end_s":1570,"word_count":251,"indexable":181},218,"150400","¿Qué repercute eso específicamente para el elector mineiro, para el ciudadano de Minas?",1420.98,1425.62,{"idx":1572,"utterance_id":1573,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1574,"start_s":1575,"end_s":1576,"word_count":397,"topic_slug":1546,"topic_label":1547,"target_id":1548,"target_proposition":1549,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":1577,"indexable":337},219,"150401","Por lo tanto, una de las propuestas que desarrollamos, inclusive con Marcos Lisboa, que tiene una visión muy clara del efecto del subsidio para Brasil, es en 100 días dejar todo muy claro.",1425.98,1436.04,"Declara una propuesta concreta de, en 100 días, dejar todo muy claro sobre los subsidios.",{"idx":1579,"utterance_id":1580,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1581,"start_s":1582,"end_s":1583,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},220,"150402","Y ahí viene la respuesta.",1436.34,1437.54,{"idx":408,"utterance_id":1585,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1586,"start_s":1587,"end_s":1588,"word_count":180,"topic_slug":1477,"topic_label":1478,"target_id":1589,"target_proposition":1590,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1591,"rationale":1592,"indexable":337},"150403","¿Cómo estás subsidiando e incentivando a algunos sectores mientras hay estudiantes que dejan de ir a la escuela porque no tienen dinero para pagar el pasaje?",1437.92,1447.44,"3dc795fd-26eb-47b8-91b3-8b74789d9668","subsidiar el transporte público para garantizar el acceso de estudiantes y grupos vulnerables",0.82,"Cuestiona los subsidios a sectores mientras estudiantes dejan de ir a la escuela por falta de pasaje.",{"idx":1594,"utterance_id":1595,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1596,"start_s":1597,"end_s":1598,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},222,"150404","Soy contrario al modelo de tarifa cero de manera general.",1448.18,1452.42,{"idx":1600,"utterance_id":1601,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1602,"start_s":1603,"end_s":1604,"word_count":196,"indexable":181},223,"150405","Siempre lo dije.",1453.08,1453.98,{"idx":1606,"utterance_id":1607,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1608,"start_s":1609,"end_s":1610,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":1477,"topic_label":1478,"target_id":1589,"target_proposition":1590,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":375,"rationale":1611,"indexable":337},224,"150406","Pero subsidiar el sistema para garantizar que nadie falte a la escuela para quienes no pueden pagar es algo que hace avanzar a la sociedad, sí.",1454.54,1463.94,"Afirma explícitamente que subsidiar para evitar ausencias escolares es socialmente positivo.",{"idx":1613,"utterance_id":1614,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1615,"start_s":1616,"end_s":1617,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},225,"150407","Y cuando hablamos de transporte metropolitano, permítanme añadir un razonamiento que es fundamental.",1464.46,1470.14,{"idx":1619,"utterance_id":1620,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1621,"start_s":1622,"end_s":1623,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},226,"150408","Está la región metropolitana de Belo Horizonte, está la región metropolitana del Vale do Aço.",1470.72,1475.32,{"idx":1625,"utterance_id":1626,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1627,"start_s":1628,"end_s":1629,"word_count":425,"indexable":181},227,"150409","Hay dos arreglos regionales que me gustaría hacer como gobernador, en el Triángulo, en Juiz de Fora, distintos a región metropolitana, porque, pues, prever el Estatuto de la Metrópoli de 2015, solo puedes tener región metropolitana con conurbación.",1475.74,1488.5,{"idx":1631,"utterance_id":1632,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1633,"start_s":1634,"end_s":1635,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":1477,"topic_label":1478,"target_id":1479,"target_proposition":1480,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":1636,"indexable":337},228,"150410","Pero hay una cosa que tenemos que implementar ya: la integración tarifaria.",1488.94,1493.4,"Dice que es fundamental implementar ya la integración tarifaria en la región metropolitana.",{"idx":17,"utterance_id":1638,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1639,"start_s":1640,"end_s":1641,"word_count":436,"indexable":181},"150411","Imagínense ustedes, allá en São Paulo, que ya saben lo que es el billete único que funciona hace 20 años en la región metropolitana, que en Minas Gerais no tenemos un billete integrado.",1493.78,1504.9,{"idx":1643,"utterance_id":1644,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1645,"start_s":1646,"end_s":1647,"word_count":300,"topic_slug":1477,"topic_label":1478,"target_id":1479,"target_proposition":1480,"stance":345,"stance_confidence":1531,"rationale":1648,"indexable":181},230,"150412","La tarifa del metropolitano aquí, que es operada por el gobierno estatal, varía de alrededor de R$ 9 a R$ 32.",1505.48,1511.96,"Relata la variación de tarifas del metropolitano como evidencia del problema tarifario.",{"idx":1650,"utterance_id":1651,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1652,"start_s":1653,"end_s":1654,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},231,"150413","Y un ciudadano que sale de Santa Luzia para trabajar en el centro de nuestra capital puede usar hasta tres tarjetas.",1512.14,1517.68,{"idx":1656,"utterance_id":1657,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1658,"start_s":1659,"end_s":1660,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},232,"150414","Ese tipo de modalidad genera un costo innecesario, poca inteligencia y, lo peor, poca integración.",1518.32,1524.28,{"idx":1662,"utterance_id":1663,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1664,"start_s":1665,"end_s":1666,"word_count":281,"topic_slug":1477,"topic_label":1478,"target_id":1479,"target_proposition":1480,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1667,"rationale":1668,"indexable":337},233,"150415","Como gobernador, nuestra... Propuesta mucho más que la tarifa cero para algunos grupos que lo necesitan.",1525.04,1532.06,0.86,"Afirma que su propuesta va más allá de la tarifa cero e incluye medidas que no afectan el presupuesto.",{"idx":1670,"utterance_id":1671,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1672,"start_s":1673,"end_s":1674,"word_count":372,"topic_slug":1477,"topic_label":1478,"target_id":1479,"target_proposition":1480,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":1675,"indexable":337},234,"150416","sí, y eso no pesa en el presupuesto en su conjunto; por el contrario, es una inversión que garantiza más educación, más acceso, más integración de quienes más necesitan, implica una inteligencia del costo y más la utilización de políticas modernas de planificación urbana para garantizar presupuesto para el sistema.",1532.24,1551.92,"Defiende que la medida es una inversión que garantiza más educación e integración, no una carga fiscal.",{"idx":1677,"utterance_id":1678,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1679,"start_s":1680,"end_s":1681,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},235,"150417","Y permítanme extenderme un poco en esto.",1551.96,1553.88,{"idx":1683,"utterance_id":1684,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1685,"start_s":1686,"end_s":1687,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":1688,"topic_label":1689,"target_id":1690,"target_proposition":1691,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":335,"rationale":1692,"indexable":337},236,"150418","Vean que el metro de Belo Horizonte... tiene un desperdicio de espacio.",1554.36,1560.02,"planejamento-urbano","Planificación urbana","c43ec987-ec59-4efe-9bbe-43c88c340037","promover densificación y ordenamiento urbano en torno a estaciones de transporte","Explica el desperdicio de suelo y la necesidad de densificar junto a estaciones para financiar el transporte.",{"idx":1694,"utterance_id":1695,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1696,"start_s":1697,"end_s":1698,"word_count":584,"indexable":181},237,"150419","En el momento en que expandes una estación, por ejemplo Barreiro, pero permites que el entorno de la estación quede con poca densificación, es decir, viviendas de baja densidad, estás desperdiciando un área que podría, en conjunto con la prefeitura, aprobada la modificación del terreno, permitir mayor densificación, mayor cantidad de gente viviendo cerca y ese recurso se revertiría al propio transporte.",1560.72,1587.06,{"idx":1700,"utterance_id":1701,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1702,"start_s":1703,"end_s":1704,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},238,"150420","Es lo que ocurre en Hong Kong, es lo que ocurre en cualquier lugar del planeta.",1587.68,1591.14,{"idx":1706,"utterance_id":1707,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1708,"start_s":1709,"end_s":1710,"word_count":265,"indexable":181},239,"150421","Movilidad no es solo invertir en transporte, sino también hacer un ordenamiento.",1591.5,1596.74,{"idx":1712,"utterance_id":1713,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1714,"start_s":1715,"end_s":1716,"word_count":196,"indexable":181},240,"150422","de la planificación urbana.",1597.16,1598.46,{"idx":1718,"utterance_id":1719,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1720,"start_s":1721,"end_s":1722,"word_count":372,"topic_slug":1688,"topic_label":1689,"target_id":1690,"target_proposition":1691,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":1723,"indexable":337},241,"150423","El área por la que tengo verdadera pasión: soy profesor de planificación urbana en la Facultad de Arquitectura y siento que este es uno de los caminos para mejorar la vida de quien necesita estudiar, por ejemplo, sin cobrar y, de esa manera, hacerlo sin comprometer la responsabilidad fiscal.",1598.8,1612.96,"Argumenta que el ordenamiento urbano junto al transporte mejora el acceso sin comprometer las finanzas.",{"idx":1725,"utterance_id":1726,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1727,"start_s":1728,"end_s":1729,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},242,"150424","Caio?",1613.28,1613.54,{"idx":1731,"utterance_id":1732,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1733,"start_s":1734,"end_s":1735,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},243,"150425","Candidato, Minas Gerais es un estado que tiene áreas y regiones y ciudades muy dinámicas y prósperas y tiene otras regiones y ciudades...",1614.12,1625.64,{"idx":23,"utterance_id":1737,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1738,"start_s":1739,"end_s":1740,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},"150426","altamente dependientes del Estado en su conjunto.",1626.08,1630.88,{"idx":1742,"utterance_id":1743,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1744,"start_s":1745,"end_s":1746,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},245,"150427","¿Cómo equilibrar esas dos Minas Gerais, digamos?",1631.38,1635.9,{"idx":1748,"utterance_id":1749,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1750,"start_s":1751,"end_s":1752,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},246,"150428","Amigo, esa es la riqueza de nuestras Minas y de nuestras Gerais.",1639.78,1643.18,{"idx":1754,"utterance_id":1755,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1756,"start_s":1757,"end_s":1758,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},247,"150429","Además, nuestra fórmula, yo y mi candidata a vicegobernadora Maria Helena de Montes Claros, una concejala con cuatro mandatos, pretendemos exactamente dar ese mensaje.",1643.3,1653.46,{"idx":1760,"utterance_id":1761,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1762,"start_s":1763,"end_s":1764,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},248,"150430","No queremos gobernar desde una centralidad.",1653.88,1656.64,{"idx":1766,"utterance_id":1767,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1768,"start_s":1769,"end_s":1770,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},249,"150431","No queremos gobernar... para Belo Horizonte y desde Belo Horizonte.",1656.92,1659.94,{"idx":1772,"utterance_id":1773,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1774,"start_s":1775,"end_s":1776,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},250,"150432","De ahí tres ideas que te señalo.",1660.02,1661.86,{"idx":1778,"utterance_id":1779,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1780,"start_s":1781,"end_s":1782,"word_count":222,"topic_slug":1783,"topic_label":1784,"target_id":1785,"target_proposition":1786,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":335,"rationale":1787,"indexable":181},251,"150433","La primera es la de los gobiernos regionales.",1662.4,1665.04,"gestao-publica-e-administracao-estadual","Gestión pública y administración estatal","92195382-fc61-4af6-bc4f-20f3d2b38ac0","descentralizar la administración estatal creando gabinetes regionales con funcionarios","Propone gobiernos regionales con servidores distribuidos para acercar la mirada del gobernador.",{"idx":1789,"utterance_id":1790,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1791,"start_s":1792,"end_s":1793,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},252,"150434","Nada de aumentar cargos, ¿eh?",1665.66,1667.3,{"idx":1795,"utterance_id":1796,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1797,"start_s":1798,"end_s":1799,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},253,"150435","Pero hoy los cargos de confianza, sobre todo, están concentrados en la Ciudad Administrativa, en el Palacio, aquí en Belo Horizonte.",1667.82,1675.02,{"idx":1801,"utterance_id":1802,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1803,"start_s":1804,"end_s":1805,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},254,"150436","La idea es poner cuatro servidores en las diez regiones para lograr que la mirada del gobernador esté más presente.",1675.58,1683.32,{"idx":1807,"utterance_id":1808,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1809,"start_s":1810,"end_s":1811,"word_count":470,"indexable":181},255,"150437","Para que los alcaldes y concejales no tengan que venir todo el tiempo a la capital, sino para que puedan, en esas localidades, exponer sus principales demandas y, con ayuda de una transparencia total de las actas y de los encuentros, mostrar cuáles son esas prioridades.",1683.82,1699.98,{"idx":1813,"utterance_id":1814,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1815,"start_s":1816,"end_s":1817,"word_count":214,"topic_slug":1783,"topic_label":1784,"target_id":1818,"target_proposition":1819,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":1820,"indexable":337},256,"150438","El segundo punto es la creación de una agencia independiente, muy basada en una idea que ya existe en Australia.",1700.58,1707.16,"ae059393-8f88-418e-a401-063e10aaaa88","crear una agencia independiente de monitoreo y evaluación de políticas públicas con mandatos plurianuales","Propone una agencia independiente con especialistas y mandatos de cinco años para monitorear resultados.",{"idx":1822,"utterance_id":1823,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1824,"start_s":1825,"end_s":1826,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},257,"150439","con personas que tengan mandatos.",1707.88,1709.84,{"idx":1828,"utterance_id":1829,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1830,"start_s":1831,"end_s":1832,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},258,"150440","Pensamos en cinco años, es decir, para ser distinta del tiempo del gobierno.",1710.04,1713.7,{"idx":1834,"utterance_id":1835,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1836,"start_s":1837,"end_s":1838,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},259,"150441","¿Cuál es la función de esa agencia?",1714.1,1715.42,{"idx":1840,"utterance_id":1841,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1842,"start_s":1843,"end_s":1844,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},260,"150442","¿que tenga economistas, especialistas en microdatos, especialistas en macrometría?",1715.46,1721.42,{"idx":1846,"utterance_id":1847,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1848,"start_s":1849,"end_s":1850,"word_count":27,"indexable":181},261,"150443","Es decir, todos esos especialistas tendrán la función de percibir hacia dónde va cada centavo y cuál es el resultado que ese centavo de las políticas públicas del gobierno genera para el ciudadano.",1721.66,1734.02,{"idx":1852,"utterance_id":1853,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1854,"start_s":1855,"end_s":1856,"word_count":548,"indexable":181},262,"150444","¿El programa que estoy teniendo en el Jequition y en el Mucuri, de hecho, está trayendo el resultado que se prevé, que se busca, o el gobierno está en esa misma rutina de anunciar un paquete de inversiones y garantizar al ciudadano que el millón va a traer, de hecho, un empleo de calidad, la energía que llega al productor?",1734.56,1755.72,{"idx":1858,"utterance_id":1859,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1860,"start_s":1861,"end_s":1862,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},263,"150445","No da.",1756.4,1756.68,{"idx":1864,"utterance_id":1865,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1866,"start_s":1867,"end_s":1868,"word_count":263,"topic_slug":1869,"topic_label":1870,"target_id":1818,"target_proposition":1819,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1871,"rationale":1872,"indexable":337},264,"150446","Tenemos que tener una agencia independiente que, además, alimente a ustedes, la prensa, con todos los datos que son necesarios todo el tiempo para la evaluación permanente del gobierno.",1757.04,1765.66,"transparencia-e-investigacao","Transparencia e investigación",0.87,"Dice que la agencia debe suministrar a la prensa datos para la evaluación permanente del gobierno.",{"idx":1874,"utterance_id":1875,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1876,"start_s":1877,"end_s":1878,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},265,"150447","Y el tercer punto: estuve este fin de semana en la campaña en el Triángulo Mineiro.",1766.08,1770.2,{"idx":1880,"utterance_id":1881,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1882,"start_s":1883,"end_s":1884,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},266,"150448","Uberaba, Uberlândia, Araguari, Araguari, por cierto, ciudad de mi madre, Cascalho Rico, Romaria.",1770.44,1777.1,{"idx":1886,"utterance_id":1887,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1888,"start_s":1889,"end_s":1890,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},267,"150449","Lo que se percibe es que falta integración por infraestructura.",1777.62,1782.38,{"idx":1892,"utterance_id":1893,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1894,"start_s":1895,"end_s":1896,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},268,"150450","lo que para mí es uno de los problemas de esa integración regional.",1784.68,1791.36,{"idx":1898,"utterance_id":1899,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1900,"start_s":1901,"end_s":1902,"word_count":180,"topic_slug":1903,"topic_label":1904,"target_id":1905,"target_proposition":1906,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1667,"rationale":1907,"indexable":337},269,"150451","Una nueva forma de hacer licitaciones, una nueva manera de mostrar un anuario de calidad de carreteras y, tercero, un banco de proyectos de infraestructura vial.",1792.04,1805.04,"meio-ambiente-infraestrutura","Medio ambiente e infraestructura","69452431-2f64-4f05-b993-2ba20f7af4d2","crear un banco de proyectos y mejorar procesos de licitación para infraestructura vial","Propone una nueva forma de licitación, un anuario de calidad de carreteras y un banco de proyectos.",{"idx":1909,"utterance_id":1910,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1911,"start_s":1912,"end_s":1913,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},270,"150452","Pero esa integración es uno de los caminos para entregar lo que ustedes pretenden.",1805.68,1810.74,{"idx":1915,"utterance_id":1916,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1917,"start_s":1918,"end_s":1919,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},271,"150453","cuáles son las potencialidades regionales.",1811.12,1813.26,{"idx":1921,"utterance_id":1922,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1923,"start_s":1924,"end_s":1925,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},272,"150454","Y eso, un profesor universitario no podría dar otra respuesta.",1813.48,1817.44,{"idx":1927,"utterance_id":1928,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1929,"start_s":1930,"end_s":1931,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},273,"150455","Es la asociación permanente con el conocimiento.",1817.94,1820.44,{"idx":1933,"utterance_id":1934,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1935,"start_s":1936,"end_s":1937,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},274,"150456","Unimontes, el Eng, el FMG, justamente para ver dónde cada potencialidad va a hacer que el desarrollo local ocurra.",1820.94,1829.34,{"idx":1939,"utterance_id":1940,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1941,"start_s":1942,"end_s":1943,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":1944,"topic_label":1945,"target_id":1946,"target_proposition":1947,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":1948,"indexable":337},275,"150457","Pensemos en el Jequitioinha y en la cantidad robusta de litio que hay en la región.",1829.36,1833.92,"politica-de-mineracao","Política de Minería","d3c52bf5-a881-4215-822f-8e5fb8d8fd19","industrializar y agregar valor al litio desarrollando cadena local de producción de baterías","Habla de aumentar el procesamiento del litio para apuntar a baterías y convertir al Estado en exportador.",{"idx":1950,"utterance_id":1951,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1952,"start_s":1953,"end_s":1954,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},276,"150458","Tienes a Sigma, por ejemplo, una de las empresas que está localmente.",1834.34,1838.14,{"idx":1956,"utterance_id":1957,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1958,"start_s":1959,"end_s":1960,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},277,"150459","Cuando usas ese recurso, se conecta con las universidades.",1838.54,1842.06,{"idx":1962,"utterance_id":1963,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1964,"start_s":1965,"end_s":1966,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},278,"150460","Hay empleo de calidad y desarrollo local.",1842.5,1845,{"idx":1968,"utterance_id":1969,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1970,"start_s":1971,"end_s":1972,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},279,"150461","¿Cómo mejoras eso?",1845.34,1846.8,{"idx":1974,"utterance_id":1975,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1976,"start_s":1977,"end_s":1978,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},280,"150462","A partir del momento en que el litio sale del nivel 1 de minería, 2, 3, y llega a un estadio que va a apuntar, claro, a las baterías.",1847.04,1855.2,{"idx":1980,"utterance_id":1981,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1982,"start_s":1983,"end_s":1984,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},281,"150463","Vamos a dejar, ¿cuál es mi meta?",1855.96,1857.6,{"idx":1986,"utterance_id":1987,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1988,"start_s":1989,"end_s":1990,"word_count":209,"topic_slug":1944,"topic_label":1945,"target_id":1946,"target_proposition":1947,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":1991,"indexable":181},282,"150464","Ser un Estado exportador.",1857.74,1859.54,"Define la meta de transformar el Estado en exportador mediante la agregación de conocimiento y valor.",{"idx":1993,"utterance_id":1994,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":1995,"start_s":1996,"end_s":1997,"word_count":15,"indexable":181},283,"150465","Esto Minas Gerais lo hace desde su descubrimiento, es decir, desde que se descubrieron las minas aquí; Ouro Preto exportaba más del 60% del oro del planeta, pero no tenía una escuela.",1860.94,1872.78,{"idx":1999,"utterance_id":2000,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2001,"start_s":2002,"end_s":2003,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},284,"150466","Y luego diamante, café, mineral.",1873.48,1876.02,{"idx":2005,"utterance_id":2006,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2007,"start_s":2008,"end_s":2009,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},285,"150467","y ahora entramos en la fase de tierras raras y energías.",1876.1,1878.76,{"idx":2011,"utterance_id":2012,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2013,"start_s":2014,"end_s":2015,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},286,"150468","Es preciso pasar la página en la que nos quedamos como un gran exportador de commodities para el mundo, aún más en este escenario geopolítico.",1879.16,1885.94,{"idx":2017,"utterance_id":2018,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2019,"start_s":2020,"end_s":2021,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},287,"150469","sin agregar conocimiento y valor.",1886.4,1888.12,{"idx":2023,"utterance_id":2024,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2025,"start_s":2026,"end_s":2027,"word_count":227,"indexable":181},288,"150470","Es con las universidades y una integración regional, sobre todo política también, que vamos a hacer que cada localidad se desarrolle dentro de su potencial.",1888.64,1897.34,{"idx":2029,"utterance_id":2030,"speaker_name":176,"text":2031,"start_s":2032,"end_s":2033,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},289,"150471","Candidato, usted habló de integración regional.",1899.28,1901.28,{"idx":2035,"utterance_id":2036,"speaker_name":176,"text":2037,"start_s":2038,"end_s":2039,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},290,"150472","Minas Gerais tiene la mayor red vial de Brasil, una de las mayores redes ferroviarias, con cerca del 40% de las vías férreas de todo el país.",1901.32,1910.24,{"idx":2041,"utterance_id":2042,"speaker_name":176,"text":2043,"start_s":2044,"end_s":2045,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},291,"150473","Sabemos que la economía de Brasil pasa por Minas Gerais.",1910.3,1913.32,{"idx":29,"utterance_id":2047,"speaker_name":176,"text":2048,"start_s":2049,"end_s":2050,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},"150474","¿La inversión en ferrocarril es una de sus propuestas?",1913.6,1916.56,{"idx":2052,"utterance_id":2053,"speaker_name":176,"text":2054,"start_s":2055,"end_s":2056,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},293,"150475","Recientemente, el propio gobernador Romeu Zema intentó concesionar las short lines, que son los ramales más cortos en Minas Gerais, pero eso no prosperó.",1916.6,1924.24,{"idx":2058,"utterance_id":2059,"speaker_name":176,"text":2060,"start_s":2061,"end_s":2062,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},294,"150476","¿Cuál es su propuesta y de qué manera cree que los ferrocarriles pueden contribuir?",1924.58,1928.46,{"idx":2064,"utterance_id":2065,"speaker_name":176,"text":2066,"start_s":2067,"end_s":2068,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},295,"150477","para el desarrollo del Estado.",1928.5,1929.72,{"idx":2070,"utterance_id":2071,"speaker_name":176,"text":2072,"start_s":2073,"end_s":2074,"word_count":196,"indexable":181},296,"150478","¿Cómo hacerlo funcionar?",1929.82,1930.8,{"idx":2076,"utterance_id":2077,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2078,"start_s":2079,"end_s":2080,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":1903,"topic_label":1904,"target_id":2081,"target_proposition":2082,"stance":345,"stance_confidence":346,"rationale":2083,"indexable":337},297,"150479","Edilene, no es que no haya prosperado, es que, lamentablemente, se detuvo en la burocracia del Estado.",1935.42,1941.34,"60400011-6ab5-40cd-a03d-4d419d03c4b1","presentar y articular proyectos ferroviarios entre esferas para captar recursos federales","Afirma que proyectos de short lines se detuvieron por la burocracia, describiendo el obstáculo.",{"idx":2085,"utterance_id":2086,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2087,"start_s":2088,"end_s":2089,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},298,"150480","Eso es muy triste.",1941.6,1942.34,{"idx":2091,"utterance_id":2092,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2093,"start_s":2094,"end_s":2095,"word_count":464,"indexable":181},299,"150481","Hablaba con el presidente de la NTT y él me mostró cabalmente cómo cada uno de los más de 20 proyectos de ferrocarriles cortos o short lines impulsados por la iniciativa privada están dependiendo del cajón de algún funcionario aquí en el gobierno de Minas Gerais.",1942.36,1959.16,{"idx":2097,"utterance_id":2098,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2099,"start_s":2100,"end_s":2101,"word_count":196,"indexable":181},300,"150482","Pero, ¿cómo hacerlo?",1959.3,1960.3,{"idx":2103,"utterance_id":2104,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2105,"start_s":2106,"end_s":2107,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":1903,"topic_label":1904,"target_id":2108,"target_proposition":2109,"stance":345,"stance_confidence":346,"rationale":2110,"indexable":337},301,"150483","Existe en Brasilia un fondo de compensación ya en torno a los 20 mil millones de reales.",1960.94,1966.96,"196fddb9-b3e9-4a8b-8aba-a7aa363b8dc8","buscar financiamiento federal para proyectos ferroviarios locales","Informa sobre la existencia de un fondo de compensación en Brasília como fuente potencial de recursos.",{"idx":2112,"utterance_id":2113,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2114,"start_s":2115,"end_s":2116,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},302,"150484","Observa lo que el ministro Renan hizo y lo que su sucesor Jorge Santoro está haciendo en materia de concesión ferroviaria en Brasil.",1967.6,1976.08,{"idx":34,"utterance_id":2118,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2119,"start_s":2120,"end_s":2121,"word_count":367,"topic_slug":1903,"topic_label":1904,"target_id":2081,"target_proposition":2082,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2122,"indexable":337},"150485","Tenemos que presentar el proyecto y ese proyecto necesita de un gobernador que esté muy encima, porque estamos hablando del nivel municipal, estadual y federal.",1977.22,1986.04,"Defiende que se necesita un gobernador que supervise y articule los niveles municipal, estatal y federal.",{"idx":2124,"utterance_id":2125,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2126,"start_s":2127,"end_s":2128,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},304,"150486","¿Y para qué presentamos ese proyecto?",1986.64,1988.26,{"idx":2130,"utterance_id":2131,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2132,"start_s":2133,"end_s":2134,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},305,"150487","Para buscar ese recurso.",1988.3,1989.48,{"idx":2136,"utterance_id":2137,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2138,"start_s":2139,"end_s":2140,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},306,"150488","Insisto.",1989.84,1990.44,{"idx":2142,"utterance_id":2143,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2144,"start_s":2145,"end_s":2146,"word_count":287,"topic_slug":430,"topic_label":431,"target_id":2147,"target_proposition":2148,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2149,"indexable":337},307,"150489","El gobernador de Minas Gerais no sirve para estar posteando videos en las redes sociales contra el presidente de la República.",1990.78,1997.82,"5d4fb778-a57f-4d2f-b7af-ddd479d31cf9","articular con el gobierno federal para garantizar recursos y políticas para Minas Gerais","Critica la postura de gobernadores que solo atacan al presidente y pide llevar proyectos a Brasília.",{"idx":2151,"utterance_id":2152,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2153,"start_s":2154,"end_s":2155,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},308,"150490","Necesitamos llevar a Brasilia proyectos y traer esos proyectos para su realización con recursos federales.",1998.34,2004.92,{"idx":2157,"utterance_id":2158,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2159,"start_s":2160,"end_s":2161,"word_count":234,"topic_slug":1903,"topic_label":1904,"target_id":2162,"target_proposition":2163,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":335,"rationale":2164,"indexable":337},309,"150491","Segundo punto: estos días me tomé la molestia de ir a Londres a conversar con Crossrail International.",2005.44,2010.74,"8a0cd2ee-9341-4b6b-a696-ee71a506e841","establecer asociaciones internacionales y con iniciativa privada para modelado y financiamiento de ferrovías","Relata visita a Crossrail International y el interés en aprender modelos de financiamiento y de modelado.",{"idx":2166,"utterance_id":2167,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2168,"start_s":2169,"end_s":2170,"word_count":425,"indexable":181},310,"150492","Es una agencia creada en asociación con la iniciativa privada y con el gobierno británico y que, a mi juicio, realizó la mayor obra de infraestructura ferroviaria que existe, que es la Elizabeth Line, en Londres.",2011.2,2022.8,{"idx":2172,"utterance_id":2173,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2174,"start_s":2175,"end_s":2176,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},311,"150493","Para aprender de ellos sistemas de modelado, financiación y recursos.",2022.88,2026.86,{"idx":2178,"utterance_id":2179,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2180,"start_s":2181,"end_s":2182,"word_count":27,"indexable":181},312,"150494","Y lo más interesante, Adelene, es que cuando llegué a hablar con Crossrail International, imaginé que me iba a recibir un enorme grupo de ingleses; estaba allí Sheila.",2027.34,2038.18,{"idx":2184,"utterance_id":2185,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2186,"start_s":2187,"end_s":2188,"word_count":477,"indexable":181},313,"150495","Una mujer de Cataguases, hija de ferroviario, que estudió ingeniería en el FJF y luego, por una beca del gobierno federal, fue a Londres, estudió en una universidad ferroviaria y hoy es doctoranda en sistemas ferroviarios en Birmingham, ayudando a construir ferrocarriles en todo el mundo.",2038.76,2059.8,{"idx":2190,"utterance_id":2191,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2192,"start_s":2193,"end_s":2194,"word_count":464,"topic_slug":1903,"topic_label":1904,"target_id":2162,"target_proposition":2163,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1667,"rationale":2195,"indexable":337},314,"150496","Ella me dijo, incluso, que su agencia está disponible para asociarse con el gobierno de Minas Gerais, ya envió todos los mensajes posibles, porque presentan los proyectos y muestran cómo financiar, y el gobierno local... aún no dio respuesta.",2060.32,2074.84,"Dice que la agencia inglesa ya ofreció asociación y que el gobierno local aún no respondió.",{"idx":2197,"utterance_id":2198,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2199,"start_s":2200,"end_s":2201,"word_count":214,"indexable":181},315,"150497","El mundo entero posee una abundante cantidad de recursos para financiar proyectos vinculados a la economía verde y a la descarbonización.",2075.28,2083.58,{"idx":2203,"utterance_id":2204,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2205,"start_s":2206,"end_s":2207,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},316,"150498","El otro día, un periodista preguntó si yo había jugado o no al ferrorama cuando era niño, porque tengo esa pasión por hablar de este tema.",2084.06,2092.94,{"idx":2209,"utterance_id":2210,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2211,"start_s":2212,"end_s":2213,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},317,"150499","Pero no es solo pasión, Adelaine.",2093.32,2094.5,{"idx":2215,"utterance_id":2216,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2217,"start_s":2218,"end_s":2219,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},318,"150500","Aquí en Minas Gerais... Todo el mundo llama 'trem' a todo.",2094.52,2097.38,{"idx":2221,"utterance_id":2222,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2223,"start_s":2224,"end_s":2225,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},319,"150501","Y lo que falta es precisamente 'trem'.",2097.74,2099.48,{"idx":2227,"utterance_id":2228,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2229,"start_s":2230,"end_s":2231,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":1903,"topic_label":1904,"target_id":2232,"target_proposition":2233,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2234,"indexable":337},320,"150502","Cuando uno ve el sur de Minas, la exportación de café, esa línea férrea del café de Guaxupé, Varginha, es decir, esa región hacia el puerto, cambia la realidad local.",2099.52,2108.88,"edd6cfc5-f091-40cb-aacf-01f102259fda","construir y expandir ferrovías locales y regionales en Minas Gerais","Ejemplifica líneas férreas que cambiarían la realidad local y generarían desarrollo.",{"idx":2236,"utterance_id":2237,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2238,"start_s":2239,"end_s":2240,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},321,"150503","Si voy desde Pirapora hacia el Noroeste, tenemos una nueva frontera agrícola.",2109.36,2113.62,{"idx":2242,"utterance_id":2243,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2244,"start_s":2245,"end_s":2246,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},322,"150504","Si conecto el Triángulo Mineiro, la gente del agro, de la ganadería, va a cambiar de vida.",2114.14,2118.82,{"idx":2248,"utterance_id":2249,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2250,"start_s":2251,"end_s":2252,"word_count":578,"topic_slug":2253,"topic_label":2254,"target_id":2255,"target_proposition":2256,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1667,"rationale":2257,"indexable":337},323,"150505","Y si entiendo que no puede ser que los camiones que transportan mineral destrocen nuestras carreteras todo el tiempo por culpa de un camión que circula con sobrepeso, y que el fondo minero, así como el modelo 'Royalty for Region' de Australia Occidental, sirvan para que hagamos ferrocarriles locales, vamos a lograr que Minas Gerais se desarrolle.",2119.26,2137.02,"financiamento-estadual","Financiamiento Estatal","ba3e5e26-d98f-4e62-8a53-9ac6cf72ea2b","usar fondos mineros y royalties para financiar infraestructura ferroviaria local","Propone usar el fondo minero y un modelo de regalías para financiar ferrocarriles locales.",{"idx":2259,"utterance_id":2260,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2261,"start_s":2262,"end_s":2263,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},324,"150506","Gente, en 2033, que se acabe CMS.",2137.08,2140.06,{"idx":2265,"utterance_id":2266,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2267,"start_s":2268,"end_s":2269,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},325,"150507","Además, ya empieza a acabar antes.",2140.52,2142.16,{"idx":2271,"utterance_id":2272,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2273,"start_s":2274,"end_s":2275,"word_count":404,"indexable":181},326,"150508","No habrá más guerra fiscal, no será posible mantener una empresa en el Estado si éste no tiene infraestructura, desarrollo de mano de obra mediante la educación y seguridad jurídica, además de la seguridad real.",2142.48,2154.08,{"idx":2277,"utterance_id":2278,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2279,"start_s":2280,"end_s":2281,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},327,"150509","El ferrocarril no es un sueño, es una necesidad para Minas Gerais.",2154.88,2159.24,{"idx":2283,"utterance_id":2284,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2285,"start_s":2286,"end_s":2287,"word_count":246,"indexable":181},328,"150510","Sé que es caro hacerlo, y es mucho más caro no hacerlo, porque es gente muriendo en la carretera, gente atrapada en el tráfico, gente retenida en atascos, camiones por todos lados; eso no se puede aceptar.",2159.64,2169.9,{"idx":2289,"utterance_id":2290,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2291,"start_s":2292,"end_s":2293,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":1903,"topic_label":1904,"target_id":2232,"target_proposition":2233,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2294,"indexable":337},329,"150511","El ferrocarril es una máxima, y si hubo un presidente que decía que gobernar era construir carreteras, en mi caso gobernar Minas Gerais será construir ferrocarriles.",2170.52,2180.88,"Declara que gobernar Minas será construir ferrocarriles, contrariando el foco exclusivo en carreteras.",{"idx":2296,"utterance_id":2297,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2298,"start_s":2299,"end_s":2300,"word_count":253,"topic_slug":2301,"topic_label":2302,"target_id":2303,"target_proposition":2304,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2305,"indexable":337},330,"150512","Y sé que no lo concluiremos en cuatro años, ¿eh?",2180.9,2183.76,"planejamento-estrategico","Planificación estratégica","81943006-3f44-4869-88d6-634e3686409e","implementar planificación estratégica a largo plazo para el desarrollo nacional","Defiende el estatismo e iniciar obras que no necesariamente se inaugurarán durante el mandato.",{"idx":2307,"utterance_id":2308,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2309,"start_s":2310,"end_s":2311,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},331,"150513","Basta de populismo, es hora un poco de estadismo.",2183.8,2186.94,{"idx":2313,"utterance_id":2314,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2315,"start_s":2316,"end_s":2317,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},332,"150514","No podemos querer hacer solo las obras que queden listas durante el mandato.",2187.44,2191.64,{"idx":2319,"utterance_id":2320,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2321,"start_s":2322,"end_s":2323,"word_count":227,"indexable":181},333,"150515","Es hora de concienciar a la población, a la sociedad, de que el estadismo y pensar a largo plazo es empezar algo que uno no va a terminar.",2191.96,2199.72,{"idx":2325,"utterance_id":2326,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2327,"start_s":2328,"end_s":2329,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},334,"150516","Es empezar algo que uno no va a inaugurar, pero que el pueblo mineiro entenderá la importancia y exigirá a los propios gobernadores que vengan.",2200.2,2206.64,{"idx":2331,"utterance_id":2332,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2333,"start_s":2334,"end_s":2335,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},335,"150517","Por cierto, muchos candidatos ahora están hablando de ferrocarril.",2206.88,2209.98,{"idx":2337,"utterance_id":2338,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2339,"start_s":2340,"end_s":2341,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},336,"150518","Porque se volvió interesante decirlo, pero hay uno aquí que desde la precandidatura viene defendiendo esto, no solo como sueño, sino mostrando cómo hacerlo.",2210.62,2218.54,{"idx":2343,"utterance_id":2344,"speaker_name":176,"text":2345,"start_s":2346,"end_s":2347,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},337,"150519","El presidente al que el candidato hizo mención, Washington Luiz, que decía que gobernar era abrir carreteras.",2219.5,2224.34,{"idx":2349,"utterance_id":2350,"speaker_name":176,"text":2351,"start_s":2352,"end_s":2353,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},338,"150520","Candidato, déjeme conectar las dos últimas respuestas.",2224.8,2228.6,{"idx":2355,"utterance_id":2356,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2357,"start_s":2358,"end_s":2359,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},339,"150521","Por cierto, no debería haber traicionado al pueblo mineiro, no debería haber traicionado al pueblo mineiro en esa oportunidad, debería haber seguido con esa transición.",2228.62,2236.94,{"idx":2361,"utterance_id":2362,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2363,"start_s":2364,"end_s":2365,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},340,"150522","¿Fue traicionar a Minas Gerais?",2237.42,2238.56,{"idx":2367,"utterance_id":2368,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2369,"start_s":2370,"end_s":2371,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},341,"150523","Eso nunca es una buena idea.",2238.84,2240.02,{"idx":2373,"utterance_id":2374,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2375,"start_s":2376,"end_s":2377,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},342,"150524","Ya existe una bonita foto del retrato de Washington Luiz siendo sostenido boca abajo.",2240.38,2244.98,{"idx":2379,"utterance_id":2380,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2381,"start_s":2382,"end_s":2383,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},343,"150525","un retrato suyo en el Palácio da Liberdade, en la época de Olegário Marcelo, pero esas son otras historias.",2245.2,2250.32,{"idx":2385,"utterance_id":2386,"speaker_name":176,"text":2387,"start_s":2388,"end_s":2389,"word_count":372,"indexable":181},344,"150526","Exacto, si no esto se va a convertir en un telecurso de clase de historia, aunque sea una de las etapas más ricas de la historia de la República; la ruptura de la política del café con leche llevó allí a la Revolución de 30, pero eso, en fin, como hemos dicho, es para otro momento.",2250.42,2265,{"idx":2391,"utterance_id":2392,"speaker_name":176,"text":2393,"start_s":2394,"end_s":2395,"word_count":251,"indexable":181},345,"150527","Pero quería conectar sus dos últimas respuestas, candidato, porque son bastante interesantes.",2265.48,2270.14,{"idx":2397,"utterance_id":2398,"speaker_name":176,"text":2399,"start_s":2400,"end_s":2401,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},346,"150528","Usted hizo esa mención.",2270.16,2272.2,{"idx":2403,"utterance_id":2404,"speaker_name":176,"text":2405,"start_s":2406,"end_s":2407,"word_count":397,"indexable":181},347,"150529","La riqueza mineral de Minas Gerais, por ejemplo, en relación con el potencial de explotación de litio, en este momento en que los minerales críticos, las tierras raras, se han convertido en algo importante para el debate nacional y geopolítico.",2272.8,2286.02,{"idx":2409,"utterance_id":2410,"speaker_name":176,"text":2411,"start_s":2412,"end_s":2413,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},348,"150530","Y usted mencionó tres pilares: infraestructura, educación y seguridad jurídica para que la economía se desarrolle.",2286.4,2294.28,{"idx":2415,"utterance_id":2416,"speaker_name":176,"text":2417,"start_s":2418,"end_s":2419,"word_count":378,"indexable":181},349,"150531","Pero le pregunto, y ahí la guinda del pastel: usted habló de tener una visión estadista y no populista al debatir las cuestiones públicas en un momento electoral.",2294.76,2304.54,{"idx":2421,"utterance_id":2422,"speaker_name":176,"text":2423,"start_s":2424,"end_s":2425,"word_count":263,"indexable":181},350,"150532","¿Qué está al alcance de un gobernador hacer, por ejemplo, para que un estado como Minas Gerais consiga aprovechar sus riquezas en el mejor sentido en el contexto actual?",2305.7,2317.88,{"idx":2427,"utterance_id":2428,"speaker_name":176,"text":2429,"start_s":2430,"end_s":2431,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},351,"150533","¿Qué depende del contexto global, geopolítico, y qué depende del gobierno federal, y en qué no basta con que solo un gobernador haga algo, sea él bien intencionado o no?",2318.32,2328.84,{"idx":2433,"utterance_id":2434,"speaker_name":176,"text":2435,"start_s":2436,"end_s":2437,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},352,"150534","¿Cómo es que usted, qué políticas plantea?",2328.92,2331.62,{"idx":2439,"utterance_id":2440,"speaker_name":176,"text":2441,"start_s":2442,"end_s":2443,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},353,"150535","para esta cuestión de explotación mineral?",2332.08,2334.8,{"idx":2445,"utterance_id":2446,"speaker_name":176,"text":2447,"start_s":2448,"end_s":2449,"word_count":477,"indexable":181},354,"150536","y cómo sería la conversación, a quién ve usted como candidato a presidente o qué candidatura presidencial tiene una mejor política para aprovechar esta ventana de oportunidad que se abre para Brasil ante este contexto de uso de minerales críticos y tierras raras?",2335.14,2351.44,{"idx":2451,"utterance_id":2452,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2453,"start_s":2454,"end_s":2455,"word_count":207,"topic_slug":430,"topic_label":431,"target_id":2456,"target_proposition":2457,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":335,"rationale":2458,"indexable":337},355,"150537","Bien, soy autor de un libro sobre federalismo junto con el profesor Onofre Júnior.",2355.16,2359.36,"af552a92-790d-484a-b2c8-eeb2b08809cf","establecer diálogo y coordinación con el gobierno federal para políticas mineras","Afirma que la minería no puede hacerse de forma autónoma y exige diálogo con la Unión.",{"idx":2460,"utterance_id":2461,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2462,"start_s":2463,"end_s":2464,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},356,"150538","Y acuñamos un término: federalismo de dependencia.",2359.7,2362.64,{"idx":2466,"utterance_id":2467,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2468,"start_s":2469,"end_s":2470,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},357,"150539","A diferencia del modelo estadounidense, en el que hay mucha autonomía para los estados miembros, aquí hay una verdadera dependencia de la Unión.",2363.06,2370.3,{"idx":2472,"utterance_id":2473,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2474,"start_s":2475,"end_s":2476,"word_count":265,"indexable":181},358,"150540","Y cuando el asunto es la minería, no se puede hacer política de manera autónoma.",2370.78,2376.58,{"idx":2478,"utterance_id":2479,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2480,"start_s":2481,"end_s":2482,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},359,"150541","Se necesita mucho diálogo con el gobierno federal.",2376.86,2379.1,{"idx":2484,"utterance_id":2485,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2486,"start_s":2487,"end_s":2488,"word_count":240,"indexable":181},360,"150542","Sin mucho populismo, ustedes deben haber seguido la Operação Rejeito, que es un escándalo de corrupción dentro... del gobierno estatal actual.",2379.6,2390.1,{"idx":2490,"utterance_id":2491,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2492,"start_s":2493,"end_s":2494,"word_count":425,"topic_slug":2495,"topic_label":2496,"target_id":2497,"target_proposition":2498,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2499,"indexable":337},361,"150543","Cada vez que hay dependencia de una concesión con pocas reglas claras en el sector y una variación de modelajes que no permite a las empresas acompañar, habrá un empresario queriendo pagar a alguien para obtener ventaja.",2390.54,2404.88,"marco-regulatorio-e-combate-a-corrupcao","Marco regulatorio y lucha contra la corrupción","9474cfcb-f4b3-4b5f-8da5-0f448713108b","crear un marco regulatorio que impida la corrupción en contratos de recursos naturales","Afirma que la dependencia de firmas con pocas reglas crea espacio para la corrupción y propone reglas claras.",{"idx":2501,"utterance_id":2502,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2503,"start_s":2504,"end_s":2505,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},362,"150544","Entonces, el primer punto es un proceso con reglas muy claras.",2405.26,2410.58,{"idx":2507,"utterance_id":2508,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2509,"start_s":2510,"end_s":2511,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},363,"150545","Muy claro.",2411.22,2411.9,{"idx":2513,"utterance_id":2514,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2515,"start_s":2516,"end_s":2517,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},364,"150546","Porque, si no, usted deja la corrupción... Por cierto, ya hubo una especie de unificación en ese proceso.",2412.36,2417.52,{"idx":2519,"utterance_id":2520,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2521,"start_s":2522,"end_s":2523,"word_count":251,"indexable":181},365,"150547","La corrupción de la rejeito es del gobierno estatal, del gobierno federal, es general.",2417.94,2422.64,{"idx":2525,"utterance_id":2526,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2527,"start_s":2528,"end_s":2529,"word_count":194,"topic_slug":2530,"topic_label":2531,"target_id":2532,"target_proposition":2533,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2534,"indexable":337},366,"150548","Entonces, en ese sentido, tiene que haber reglas muy claras.",2423.46,2426.58,"terras-raras-e-mineracao-estrategica","Tierras raras y minería estratégica","a271aa08-3489-4f03-b70d-809810349c8c","crear un marco regulatorio para la explotación de tierras raras","dice explícitamente 'tem que ter regra muito clara'.",{"idx":2536,"utterance_id":2537,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2538,"start_s":2539,"end_s":2540,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},367,"150549","Segundo punto, hay que comprender que existe una diferencia entre tierras raras y minerales críticos.",2427.2,2432.6,{"idx":2542,"utterance_id":2543,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2544,"start_s":2545,"end_s":2546,"word_count":265,"indexable":181},368,"150550","Las tierras raras llevan ese nombre por la dificultad del proceso para adquirirlas.",2433.08,2436.96,{"idx":2548,"utterance_id":2549,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2550,"start_s":2551,"end_s":2552,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},369,"150551","En cambio, los minerales críticos varían de nación a nación",2438.3,2441.18,{"idx":2554,"utterance_id":2555,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2556,"start_s":2557,"end_s":2558,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},370,"150552","dependiendo de su necesidad.",2441.6,2443.22,{"idx":2560,"utterance_id":2561,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2562,"start_s":2563,"end_s":2564,"word_count":281,"topic_slug":2565,"topic_label":2566,"target_id":2567,"target_proposition":2568,"stance":345,"stance_confidence":1550,"rationale":2569,"indexable":181},371,"150553","La tecnología para las tierras raras está muy bien dominada por China, que tardó años en conseguirla.",2444.1,2450.18,"politica-industrial-e-energia","Política industrial y energética","e26c9b0d-b164-48c3-b88d-2d73dd71d1f8","desarrollar cadena de valor para tierras raras","relata el dominio chino de la tecnología sin proponer acción directa.",{"idx":2571,"utterance_id":2572,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2573,"start_s":2574,"end_s":2575,"word_count":367,"topic_slug":2565,"topic_label":2566,"target_id":2567,"target_proposition":2568,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2576,"indexable":337},372,"150554","El hecho de que sea difícil no significa que no tengamos que traer la tecnología que nos permita llegar hasta donde sea posible y viable económicamente.",2450.72,2460.16,"afirma 'temos que trazer para nós a tecnologia', proponiendo acción.",{"idx":2578,"utterance_id":2579,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2580,"start_s":2581,"end_s":2582,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":2530,"topic_label":2531,"target_id":2583,"target_proposition":2584,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2585,"indexable":337},373,"150555","Porque, insisto, no se puede vivir exportando materia prima en bruto.",2460.58,2465.5,"791babf5-9876-4119-99bf-d9d71d69e8ac","desarrollar la cadena de procesamiento de tierras raras en Brasil","afirma 'não dá para viver exportando matéria-prima bruta'.",{"idx":2587,"utterance_id":2588,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2589,"start_s":2590,"end_s":2591,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":2592,"topic_label":2593,"target_id":2594,"target_proposition":2595,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":2596,"indexable":337},374,"150556","En segundo lugar, no podemos entrar en una pelea internacional e ideológica por este o aquel país sin considerar el interés de la soberanía del pueblo brasileño.",2466.08,2478,"politica-externa-e-diplomacia","Política exterior y diplomacia","994eb3c4-ade9-441d-afae-261520e012a2","priorizar los intereses nacionales en decisiones de seguridad internacional","dice no entrar en una pelea internacional sin considerar la soberanía.",{"idx":2598,"utterance_id":2599,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2600,"start_s":2601,"end_s":2602,"word_count":530,"topic_slug":2603,"topic_label":2604,"target_id":2605,"target_proposition":2606,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":364,"rationale":2607,"indexable":337},375,"150557","El candidato a la presidencia que mejor va a servir al pueblo de Minas Gerais es aquel que piense todo el tiempo en cómo mejorar el salario de quien vive en Minas Gerais, cómo mejorar el conocimiento de un estudiante que se está formando en una facultad de ingeniería y que podrá desarrollar mejor nuestros productos.",2479.98,2500.42,"politica-estadual","Política estatal","ed1d989c-a42c-44ce-93e3-a076d617dc18","priorizar los intereses de Minas Gerais en la formulación de políticas públicas","defiende al candidato que piense en mejorar los salarios y la formación en el estado.",{"idx":2609,"utterance_id":2610,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2611,"start_s":2612,"end_s":2613,"word_count":229,"topic_slug":2614,"topic_label":2615,"target_id":2616,"target_proposition":2617,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":346,"rationale":2618,"indexable":337},376,"150558","¿Cómo lograr que Minas Gerais tenga infraestructura?",2500.86,2504.12,"infraestrutura-e-saneamento","Infraestructura y saneamiento","2c2ca5f0-dbd9-47ed-8b17-b34d23db8cb4","expandir la infraestructura en Minas Gerais","pregunta retórica sobre cómo Minas Gerais debe tener infraestructura.",{"idx":2620,"utterance_id":2621,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2622,"start_s":2623,"end_s":2624,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":2625,"target_proposition":2626,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2627,"indexable":337},377,"150559","No solo venir aquí a anunciar millones, millones, millones, sino de hecho acompañar las obras con el gobernador para garantizar que todo eso prospere aquí en el Estado.",2504.6,2513.76,"0deee75a-2fef-4195-b460-b320b6ebd414","supervisar y acompañar la ejecución de obras públicas por parte del gobierno","propone 'acompanhar as obras com o governador' para garantizar la ejecución.",{"idx":2629,"utterance_id":2630,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2631,"start_s":2632,"end_s":2633,"word_count":27,"indexable":181},378,"150560","Entiendo que en este momento de campaña presidencial todo el mundo quiere decidir o, de cierta manera, competir para ver quién va a adular más a este u otro candidato a la presidencia.",2514.46,2526.98,{"idx":2635,"utterance_id":2636,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2637,"start_s":2638,"end_s":2639,"word_count":222,"indexable":181},379,"150561","Aquí hay alguien que se inspira mucho.",2527.44,2529.36,{"idx":2641,"utterance_id":2642,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2643,"start_s":2644,"end_s":2645,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},380,"150562","sin convertir esto en un telecurso de historia, en referencia a muchos de los gobernadores que ya pasaron por la silla que pretendo ocupar.",2530.44,2537.56,{"idx":2647,"utterance_id":2648,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2649,"start_s":2650,"end_s":2651,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},381,"150563","Juscelino Kubitschek, Tancredo Neves, Afonso Pena, Benedito Valadares.",2538.06,2542.22,{"idx":2653,"utterance_id":2654,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2655,"start_s":2656,"end_s":2657,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},382,"150564","Y hay una fórmula, Milton Campos lo sabía muy bien, que siempre funciona y no pasa de moda.",2542.72,2547.52,{"idx":2659,"utterance_id":2660,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2661,"start_s":2662,"end_s":2663,"word_count":209,"topic_slug":2603,"topic_label":2604,"target_id":2605,"target_proposition":2606,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":364,"rationale":2664,"indexable":181},383,"150565","En primer lugar, Minas Gerais.",2547.92,2549.68,"eslogan repetido 'Em primeiro lugar, Minas Gerais' prioriza el estado.",{"idx":2666,"utterance_id":2667,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2668,"start_s":2669,"end_s":2670,"word_count":209,"topic_slug":2603,"topic_label":2604,"target_id":2605,"target_proposition":2606,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":364,"rationale":2671,"indexable":181},384,"150566","En segundo lugar, Minas Gerais.",2550.2,2551.8,"repite la prioridad del estado como orientación política.",{"idx":2673,"utterance_id":2674,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2675,"start_s":2676,"end_s":2677,"word_count":209,"topic_slug":2603,"topic_label":2604,"target_id":2605,"target_proposition":2606,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":364,"rationale":2678,"indexable":181},385,"150567","En tercer lugar, Minas Gerais.",2552.26,2554,"repite un mantra de priorizar a Minas Gerais en la agenda política.",{"idx":2680,"utterance_id":2681,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2682,"start_s":2683,"end_s":2684,"word_count":229,"topic_slug":2603,"topic_label":2604,"target_id":2605,"target_proposition":2606,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":364,"rationale":2685,"indexable":337},386,"150568","En cuarto lugar, los intereses del pueblo mineiro.",2554.38,2556.8,"afirma 'os interesses do povo mineiro' como prioridad.",{"idx":2687,"utterance_id":2688,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2689,"start_s":2690,"end_s":2691,"word_count":209,"indexable":181},387,"150569","Esto sirve para cualquier candidato.",2557.16,2558.64,{"idx":2693,"utterance_id":2694,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2695,"start_s":2696,"end_s":2697,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},388,"150570","Quien defienda esto, obviamente, será mejor para Minas Gerais.",2558.68,2561.84,{"idx":2699,"utterance_id":2700,"speaker_name":176,"text":2701,"start_s":2702,"end_s":2703,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},389,"150571","Caio Junqueira, estamos en la recta final de nuestra entrevista.",2562.56,2565.78,{"idx":2705,"utterance_id":2706,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2707,"start_s":2708,"end_s":2709,"word_count":240,"indexable":181},390,"150572","Quería preguntarle sobre cómo usted pretende deconstruir la candidatura de Cleitinho, que lidera la elección en Minas Gerais.",2567.26,2576.48,{"idx":2711,"utterance_id":2712,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2713,"start_s":2714,"end_s":2715,"word_count":265,"indexable":181},391,"150573","Mira... Empezamos esta conversación aquí con ustedes cuestionándome sobre mi pasado.",2581.34,2587.22,{"idx":2717,"utterance_id":2718,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2719,"start_s":2720,"end_s":2721,"word_count":251,"indexable":181},392,"150574","Al fin y al cabo, empecé con 20 años y ya he peleado lo suficiente.",2587.74,2592.08,{"idx":2723,"utterance_id":2724,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2725,"start_s":2726,"end_s":2727,"word_count":194,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":2728,"target_proposition":2729,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2730,"indexable":337},393,"150575","No tengo la menor pretensión de deconstruir a nadie.",2592.96,2595.7,"5ab466f2-c5be-40e6-a330-4976d99c8557","evitar desconstruir adversarios durante la campaña","declara explícitamente 'não tenho pretensão de desconstruir ninguém'.",{"idx":2732,"utterance_id":2733,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2734,"start_s":2735,"end_s":2736,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},394,"150576","Además, diría Juscelino Kubitschek: no nací para guardar odios ni rencores, nací para construir.",2596.06,2601.64,{"idx":2738,"utterance_id":2739,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2740,"start_s":2741,"end_s":2742,"word_count":253,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":2728,"target_proposition":2729,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":2743,"indexable":337},395,"150577","La fila de gente que quiere deconstruir, amigo mío, ya está demasiado llena.",2602.1,2605.28,"critica la práctica de 'desconstruir' a otros políticos.",{"idx":2745,"utterance_id":2746,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2747,"start_s":2748,"end_s":2749,"word_count":216,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":2750,"target_proposition":2751,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2752,"indexable":181},396,"150578","Quiero construir, quiero proponer.",2605.74,2607.56,"80bad98e-a648-42d7-8459-1f28c7d71350","conducir campaña centrada en propuestas de gobierno y no en investigaciones policiales","dice 'eu quero construir, eu quero propor', defendiendo propuestas.",{"idx":2754,"utterance_id":2755,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2756,"start_s":2757,"end_s":2758,"word_count":240,"topic_slug":2614,"topic_label":2615,"target_id":2759,"target_proposition":2760,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1392,"rationale":2761,"indexable":337},397,"150579","Quiero mostrarle a la persona que me está viendo aquí en CNN que es posible imaginar que Minas Gerais tenga ferrocarriles.",2608.06,2614.52,"b15738ed-d7b0-4f16-b6cf-8c56b67cf57a","implementar un gran programa federal de infraestructura ferroviaria (tren São Paulo–Curitiba\u002FRío y ampliación de la red ferroviaria)","dice querer mostrar que Minas Gerais puede tener ferrocarriles.",{"idx":2763,"utterance_id":2764,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2765,"start_s":2766,"end_s":2767,"word_count":281,"topic_slug":1310,"topic_label":1311,"target_id":2768,"target_proposition":2769,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1392,"rationale":2770,"indexable":337},398,"150580","Es posible imaginar que existan listas de espera que no queden paralizadas en materia de cirugías para los pacientes.",2614.96,2620.8,"6e88ed3f-62c2-463e-9abe-8da551b561f1","reducir el tiempo de espera para consultas, exámenes y cirugías en el SUS","propone acabar con las listas de espera de cirugías para pacientes.",{"idx":2772,"utterance_id":2773,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2774,"start_s":2775,"end_s":2776,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":2777,"target_proposition":2778,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2779,"indexable":337},399,"150581","Que es posible que tengamos escuelas en las que haya aprendizaje.",2621.14,2624.78,"0d1bc100-92e5-4765-a1cd-19a655c5d5ff","mejorar el aprendizaje en las escuelas públicas de Minas Gerais","afirma que es posible 'ter escolas que tenham aprendizagem'.",{"idx":2781,"utterance_id":2782,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2783,"start_s":2784,"end_s":2785,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2786,"target_proposition":2787,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2788,"indexable":337},400,"150582","Que es posible un sistema de seguridad pública unificado con el gobierno federal para combatir a las instituciones del crimen y no a las instituciones de la democracia.",2625.12,2635.14,"c6015ac5-4113-400c-9721-98e3c8797fbd","movilizar todas las instituciones federales en la lucha contra el crimen organizado","propone un sistema de seguridad pública unificado con el gobierno federal.",{"idx":2790,"utterance_id":2791,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2792,"start_s":2793,"end_s":2794,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2795,"target_proposition":2796,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1392,"rationale":2797,"indexable":337},401,"150583","Fuera de Minas Gerais, el PCC: son ellos a los que quiero deconstruir.",2635.72,2639.42,"554b78d9-4efe-4a8b-90b3-63d8efd356b8","reducir homicidios y combatir el crimen organizado","dice explícitamente 'PCC... são eles que eu quero desconstruir'.",{"idx":2799,"utterance_id":2800,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2801,"start_s":2802,"end_s":2803,"word_count":194,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2795,"target_proposition":2796,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":1392,"rationale":2804,"indexable":337},402,"150584","El Comando Vermelho, son ellos a los que quiero deconstruir.",2639.68,2642.14,"declara querer 'desconstruir' al Comando Vermelho (combate al crimen).",{"idx":2806,"utterance_id":2807,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2808,"start_s":2809,"end_s":2810,"word_count":188,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":2811,"target_proposition":2812,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":364,"rationale":2813,"indexable":337},403,"150585","La escuela que no enseña, es ella a la que quiero deconstruir.",2642.42,2645.26,"10210d56-e275-47dc-866c-c8903f4b68bd","reformar escuelas con bajo rendimiento para mejorar el aprendizaje","dice querer 'desconstruir' la escuela que no enseña, defendiendo una reforma.",{"idx":2815,"utterance_id":2816,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2817,"start_s":2818,"end_s":2819,"word_count":214,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":2820,"target_proposition":2821,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":2822,"indexable":337},404,"150586","Con respecto a mis adversarios, que cada uno construya su propio plan de gobierno y sus propuestas.",2645.7,2650.98,"2f81bf15-302b-4944-8d56-9c78a8f40968","preservar el respeto y permitir que los adversarios presenten sus planes de gobierno","defiende que los adversarios construyan y presenten sus propios planes.",{"idx":2824,"utterance_id":2825,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2826,"start_s":2827,"end_s":2828,"word_count":281,"topic_slug":2829,"topic_label":2830,"target_id":2831,"target_proposition":2832,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":2833,"indexable":337},405,"150587","Sé que no está de moda ser un político que dialoga y respeta a los adversarios.",2651.68,2655.98,"democracia-e-cultura-politica","Democracia y Cultura Política","66f87408-51e8-4937-9555-eaa5df9455a6","practicar diálogo y respeto con adversarios políticos","afirma valorar el diálogo y el respeto entre políticos.",{"idx":2835,"utterance_id":2836,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2837,"start_s":2838,"end_s":2839,"word_count":253,"indexable":181},406,"150588","Pero, como diría nuestra madre, usted no es todo el mundo.",2656.56,2660.68,{"idx":2841,"utterance_id":2842,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2843,"start_s":2844,"end_s":2845,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":2750,"target_proposition":2751,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":2846,"indexable":337},407,"150589","Si en Brasil quedó... Muy típico que un político use este espacio que me da la CNN para insultar a los demás, yo realmente quiero proponer.",2661.56,2669.66,"contrasta el uso del espacio para insultar con su voluntad de proponer.",{"idx":2848,"utterance_id":2849,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2850,"start_s":2851,"end_s":2852,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},408,"150590","Y puede que eso me aleje de la victoria.",2670.24,2674.9,{"idx":2854,"utterance_id":2855,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2856,"start_s":2857,"end_s":2858,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},409,"150591","pero no me priva de mi convicción.",2675.28,2677.56,{"idx":2860,"utterance_id":2861,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2862,"start_s":2863,"end_s":2864,"word_count":253,"topic_slug":2829,"topic_label":2830,"target_id":2865,"target_proposition":2866,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2867,"indexable":337},410,"150592","Brasil necesita política con paz, gente que dialogue.",2677.58,2680.84,"61cc15f2-225e-489f-8397-26fa07816697","reconstruir la política brasileña con base en el diálogo y el consenso","dice 'Brasil precisa de política com paz, de gente que dialogue'.",{"idx":2869,"utterance_id":2870,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2871,"start_s":2872,"end_s":2873,"word_count":397,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":2874,"target_proposition":2875,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2876,"indexable":337},411,"150593","No tengo ningún problema en dialogar con Cleitinho y no tengo la pretensión de deconstruirlo, porque si yo soy elegido y él no, tendrá cuatro años más como senador de la República.",2681.18,2690.64,"b47a84cf-c5e0-4df6-a657-dfe609d1d42f","dialogar con adversarios y buscar cooperación poselectoral","declara no tener problema en dialogar con Cleitinho y cooperar después.",{"idx":2878,"utterance_id":2879,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2880,"start_s":2881,"end_s":2882,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},412,"150594","Y no voy a necesitar solo a los otros dos.",2691.02,2692.88,{"idx":2884,"utterance_id":2885,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2886,"start_s":2887,"end_s":2888,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},413,"150595","Por cierto, el MDB tiene dos candidatos, Arcanjo de Pimenta y nuestro querido Manuel Carvalho.",2693.08,2698.06,{"idx":2890,"utterance_id":2891,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2892,"start_s":2893,"end_s":2894,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},414,"150596","Pero si yo soy elegido, él sigue siendo senador por cuatro años.",2698.6,2701.54,{"idx":2896,"utterance_id":2897,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2898,"start_s":2899,"end_s":2900,"word_count":216,"topic_slug":2901,"topic_label":2902,"target_id":2903,"target_proposition":2904,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":364,"rationale":2905,"indexable":181},415,"150597","Y lo voy a necesitar allí.",2702.24,2703.12,"governanca-politica","Gobernanza política","af7003c8-e661-44d8-b851-84b8e1441533","gobernar en asociación con el Congreso Nacional","afirma que 'vai precisar' del senador incluso si no es elegido.",{"idx":2907,"utterance_id":2908,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2909,"start_s":2910,"end_s":2911,"word_count":216,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":2728,"target_proposition":2729,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":2912,"indexable":181},416,"150598","Aquí no hay nadie que quiera desconstruir a nadie.",2703.66,2705.12,"reafirma que 'tem ninguém aqui querendo desconstruir ninguém'.",{"idx":2914,"utterance_id":2915,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2916,"start_s":2917,"end_s":2918,"word_count":216,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":2750,"target_proposition":2751,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":2919,"indexable":181},417,"150599","Hay alguien aquí que quiere proponer.",2705.24,2706.76,"declara 'Tem aqui alguém que quer propor', priorizando propuestas.",{"idx":2921,"utterance_id":2922,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2923,"start_s":2924,"end_s":2925,"word_count":194,"indexable":181},418,"150600","Minas Gerais tiene mucho que enseñar a Brasil.",2707,2709.44,{"idx":2927,"utterance_id":2928,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2929,"start_s":2930,"end_s":2931,"word_count":506,"topic_slug":2932,"topic_label":2933,"target_id":2934,"target_proposition":2935,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2936,"indexable":337},419,"150601","En este momento, en que respetamos al adversario, conversamos de igual a igual y sabemos que en este espacio de 45 minutos... Hay buen tiempo para hablar de muchas cosas, pero aún no he conseguido hablar del feminicidio cero, no he conseguido hablar de nuestra política de vertedero cero.",2709.72,2726.3,"financas-publicas-e-seguranca-publica","Finanzas públicas y seguridad pública","40d32896-8167-4e55-abdf-15b94f31dc86","reducir a cero los casos de feminicidio","menciona explícitamente 'feminicídio zero' como pauta no tratada.",{"idx":2938,"utterance_id":2939,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2940,"start_s":2941,"end_s":2942,"word_count":253,"topic_slug":2614,"topic_label":2615,"target_id":2943,"target_proposition":2944,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":422,"rationale":2945,"indexable":337},420,"150602","Hay 322 Minas Gerais y quiero, de hecho, acabar con ellos.",2726.6,2729.78,"e5d2093e-5a0a-4831-a483-090dcf2435d9","eliminar los vertederos e implementar una gestión adecuada de residuos","dice querer 'acabar com eles' refiriéndose a los vertederos mencionados.",{"idx":2947,"utterance_id":2948,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2949,"start_s":2950,"end_s":2951,"word_count":758,"topic_slug":2952,"topic_label":108,"target_id":2953,"target_proposition":2954,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2955,"indexable":337},421,"150603","No dio para hablar, además de la infraestructura ferroviaria, de nuestra política de riego, de cuánto la Semig necesita ayudar al pequeño productor para que la comida sea más barata en la mesa de la gente, de cuánto la Semig puede tener un mejor modelo trifásico, de cuánto... De cuánto incluso la juventud necesita perspectiva; yo, que fui durante cuatro años subsecretario de juventud de Minas Gerais y pasé por más de 400 municipios, no puede ser que las ciudades pequeñas de Minas estén en puro abandono porque las personas allí no pueden soñar.",2730.24,2762.46,"agricultura-e-agronegocio","3ddd45dd-bbf0-4333-95d6-9efb8a8d6cf6","fortalecer políticas de riego y apoyo al pequeño productor en Minas Gerais","cita a Semig y la necesidad de ayudar al pequeño productor y la irrigación.",{"idx":2957,"utterance_id":2958,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2959,"start_s":2960,"end_s":2961,"word_count":300,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":2728,"target_proposition":2729,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2962,"indexable":337},422,"150604","Entonces, mira, no tengo la menor pretensión de perder ni un segundo en desconstruir a quien sea.",2762.84,2768.94,"reafirma no perder tiempo 'para desconstruir quem quer que seja'.",{"idx":2964,"utterance_id":2965,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2966,"start_s":2967,"end_s":2968,"word_count":196,"indexable":181},423,"150605","Quiero construir.",2769.34,2770.18,{"idx":2970,"utterance_id":2971,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2972,"start_s":2973,"end_s":2974,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":2975,"target_proposition":2976,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2977,"indexable":337},424,"150606","Y si no dio tiempo de decirlo todo aquí, quisiera que la gente me ayudara a construir esta candidatura, sobre todo en mis redes sociales.",2770.68,2777.24,"0226207c-76b8-4e9f-bf59-0604ef78ebba","involucrar a los electores en las redes sociales de la campaña","pide que la gente ayude a construir la candidatura en las redes sociales.",{"idx":2979,"utterance_id":2980,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2981,"start_s":2982,"end_s":2983,"word_count":489,"indexable":181},425,"150607","Solo tienen que teclear ahora en Instagram, Gabriel Azevedo, o en X, o en Facebook, o donde sea, en TikTok, que no me van a encontrar comiendo plátano con cáscara, ni haciendo ningún tipo de baile, ni insultando al presidente de la república, ni nada por el estilo.",2777.64,2793.98,{"idx":2985,"utterance_id":2986,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2987,"start_s":2988,"end_s":2989,"word_count":378,"topic_slug":2301,"topic_label":2302,"target_id":2990,"target_proposition":2991,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":2992,"indexable":337},426,"150608","Pero encontrarán un plan de gobierno sólido, construido con más de 100 técnicos, de alguien que recorrió todas las regiones de Minas Gerais durante más de un año.",2794.3,2803.46,"edff480b-6ba8-48d5-ab36-89108308e9d9","presentar un plan de gobierno técnico y sólido construido por especialistas","dice tener un 'plano sólido' construido con más de 100 técnicos.",{"idx":2994,"utterance_id":2995,"speaker_name":289,"speaker_slug":290,"text":2996,"start_s":2997,"end_s":2998,"word_count":253,"topic_slug":2603,"topic_label":2604,"target_id":2999,"target_proposition":3000,"stance":334,"stance_confidence":415,"rationale":3001,"indexable":337},427,"150609","y quiere ser candidato a gobernador para gobernar para todos los habitantes de Minas Gerais.",2803.9,2807.22,"5c93f3f3-f985-46e2-b1eb-932f0a4bff82","gobernar para todos los habitantes del estado, sin privilegiar intereses extranjeros","declara la intención de gobernar 'para todos os mineiros'.",{"idx":3003,"utterance_id":3004,"speaker_name":176,"text":3005,"start_s":3006,"end_s":3007,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},428,"150610","Bueno, candidato, usted manejó muy bien nuestro tiempo aquí.",2808.12,2811.5,{"idx":3009,"utterance_id":3010,"speaker_name":176,"text":3011,"start_s":3012,"end_s":3013,"word_count":281,"indexable":181},429,"150611","Quiero agradecer la participación de Gabriel Azevedo, candidato del MDB aquí, el segundo entrevistado de nuestra serie.",2811.58,2820.56,{"idx":3015,"utterance_id":3016,"speaker_name":176,"text":3017,"start_s":3018,"end_s":3019,"word_count":207,"indexable":181},430,"150612","Agradecer también desde ya a Edilene Lopes en Brasilia, Caio Junqueira aquí en São Paulo.",2820.58,2825.72,{"idx":3021,"utterance_id":3022,"speaker_name":176,"text":3023,"start_s":3024,"end_s":3025,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},431,"150613","Recordar que estamos en la serie de entrevistas de los candidatos al gobierno de Minas Gerais.",2826.06,2831.02,{"idx":3027,"utterance_id":3028,"speaker_name":176,"text":3029,"start_s":3030,"end_s":3031,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},432,"150614","Ya hablamos con Matheus Simões, del PSD, hoy con Gabriel Azevedo, del MDB; mañana es el turno de Flávio Roscoi, del PL.",2831.64,2838.5,{"idx":3033,"utterance_id":3034,"speaker_name":176,"text":3035,"start_s":3036,"end_s":3037,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},433,"150615","También escucharemos a Alexandre Calil, del PDT; Patruzio Ananias, del PT; y Cleitinho Azevedo, de los Republicanos.",2838.6,2845.08,{"idx":3039,"utterance_id":3040,"speaker_name":176,"text":3041,"start_s":3042,"end_s":3043,"word_count":229,"indexable":181},434,"150616","Elecciones 2026, la CNN informa, Brasil decide.",2845.48,2863.8,"es",{"job_id":3046,"title":3047,"source_url":3048,"platform":3049,"content_type":3050,"published_at":3051,"duration_sec":3043,"n_classified":3052,"speakers":3053},"087727bd-9cf2-4355-9024-8abc64031f1c","ENTREVISTA COM GABRIEL AZEVEDO (MDB) AO GOVERNO DE MG | CNN ELEIÇÕES","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.youtube.com\u002Fwatch?v=p3bM-6Ak8ls","youtube","video","2026-08-25T01:03:39Z",435,[3054],{"name":289,"slug":290,"n_falas":2472},"https:\u002F\u002Fi.ytimg.com\u002Fvi\u002Fp3bM-6Ak8ls\u002Fhqdefault.jpg"]