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And who will be the captain of that team?",139.68,142.88,{"idx":79,"utterance_id":161,"speaker_name":8,"text":162,"start_s":163,"end_s":164,"word_count":165,"indexable":13},"69319","We know that Lula is leading a presidential campaign, but you defend that the Vice President of the Republic, Geraldo Alckmin, who has already been governor, has a lot of experience in speaking with mayors and councilors from the interior of São Paulo.",142.92,156.38,41,{"idx":140,"utterance_id":167,"speaker_name":8,"text":168,"start_s":169,"end_s":170,"word_count":93,"indexable":13},"69320","Does he captain this campaign in the interior of São Paulo and in São Paulo?",156.92,160.38,{"idx":172,"utterance_id":173,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":174,"start_s":175,"end_s":176,"word_count":87,"topic_slug":117,"topic_label":118,"target_id":177,"target_proposition":178,"stance":151,"stance_confidence":179,"rationale":180,"indexable":124},23,"69321","I have no doubt that he would be and is the best name, Uribe.",162.14,165.32,"9362bdc7-3a43-4962-a6ca-a956ec7c4151","support Geraldo Alckmin's nomination as vice on Fernando Haddad's ticket",0.9,"says 'não tenho dúvida' that he is the best choice, explicit support.",{"idx":182,"utterance_id":183,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":184,"start_s":185,"end_s":186,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},24,"69322","I had the opportunity to speak with President Lula about this matter more than once.",165.38,169.42,{"idx":188,"utterance_id":189,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":190,"start_s":191,"end_s":192,"word_count":93,"indexable":13},25,"69323","The first time was when he invited me, including, to come.",169.5,173.94,{"idx":194,"utterance_id":195,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":196,"start_s":197,"end_s":198,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},26,"69324","to contest the election in São 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There is a very expressive wing, according to them, within Fernando Haddad's campaign, committed to convincing you to give up the Senate and accept the condition of running as vice, with the argument that you are a woman, you would be able to... bring more, add more with the female electorate, also help Fernando Haddad with the centrist electorate in the interior of São Paulo, which is very strategic.",244.52,278.46,92,{"idx":270,"utterance_id":271,"speaker_name":8,"text":272,"start_s":273,"end_s":274,"word_count":234,"indexable":13},37,"69335","But we know that you are positioned as a pre-candidate for the Senate and that there is a commitment to you in that direction that came since your migration to the PSB.",279.02,287.9,{"idx":276,"utterance_id":277,"speaker_name":8,"text":278,"start_s":279,"end_s":280,"word_count":52,"indexable":13},38,"69336","So I ask you, is there any possibility that you would accept to run as 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what each of these names, in this problem.",481.82,493.72,{"idx":447,"utterance_id":448,"speaker_name":8,"text":449,"start_s":450,"end_s":451,"word_count":45,"indexable":13},65,"69363","good that Fernanda Haddad has, because that is how he referred to all these disputes, can add to the PT's candidacy in the State of São Paulo?",493.9,502.1,{"idx":209,"utterance_id":453,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":454,"start_s":455,"end_s":456,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},"69364","Politics is all about a team, it's about timing.",503.98,505.66,{"idx":458,"utterance_id":459,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":460,"start_s":461,"end_s":462,"word_count":40,"indexable":13},67,"69365","The conversation hasn't happened yet.",505.92,507.62,{"idx":464,"utterance_id":465,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":466,"start_s":467,"end_s":468,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},68,"69366","We are being run over by 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demands.",529.48,533.06,{"idx":222,"utterance_id":493,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":494,"start_s":495,"end_s":496,"word_count":45,"indexable":13},"69371","and that is when we are not being run over by bad news from false prophets and patriots, false prophets and false patriots, who go to the United States to advocate against Brazil.",533.44,545.2,{"idx":498,"utterance_id":499,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":500,"start_s":501,"end_s":502,"word_count":87,"indexable":13},74,"69372","So it is one pain after another, waking up each day to noise.",545.52,549.7,{"idx":377,"utterance_id":504,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":505,"start_s":506,"end_s":507,"word_count":93,"indexable":13},"69373","We are also talking about 20 states of the Brazilian Federation, where we need to build coalitions.",550.14,554,{"idx":509,"utterance_id":510,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":511,"start_s":512,"end_s":513,"word_count":409,"indexable":13},76,"69374","I think at the right moment President Lula will be calling the PSB to talk, he will be calling not only me... although my matter is already settled, but the former minister and pre-candidate Marcio França himself, who is a great comrade, an extraordinary person of dialogue and consensus, who plays as a team, and when the time comes to talk, whether Haddad, whether Geraldo Alckmin himself or President Lula talks... He will listen to him, see the demands and, obviously, from there we will have our verdict.",554.4,590,{"idx":515,"utterance_id":516,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":517,"start_s":518,"end_s":519,"word_count":45,"indexable":13},77,"69375","I am not here advocating A or B. I am the last one who can advocate a name to compose the ticket with me in a pre-candidacy for the Senate.",590.52,600.62,{"idx":521,"utterance_id":522,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":523,"start_s":524,"end_s":525,"word_count":93,"indexable":13},78,"69376","When I say I would like it, it is because I am part of the PSB.",600.98,603.9,{"idx":527,"utterance_id":528,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":529,"start_s":530,"end_s":531,"word_count":140,"topic_slug":117,"topic_label":118,"target_id":532,"target_proposition":533,"stance":151,"stance_confidence":214,"rationale":534,"indexable":124},79,"69377","If the PSB could have two vacancies as pre-candidates for the Senate and the vice spot, it is obvious that I would advocate for it.",604.42,610.86,"8b077e96-580a-4cc3-83ea-085f162cd538","secure two Senate seats for PSB and negotiate the vice slot","declares she will advocate for two seats and the vice seat for the PSB.",{"idx":536,"utterance_id":537,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":538,"start_s":539,"end_s":540,"word_count":276,"indexable":13},80,"69378","In that sense, that will not happen, I want to anticipate, but it is only in that sense that I understand Márcio França as an excellent name, both as a pre-candidate for the Senate and to compose Fernanda Haddad's vice.",611.78,626.5,{"idx":542,"utterance_id":543,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":544,"start_s":545,"end_s":546,"word_count":217,"indexable":13},81,"69379","He knows the State, he has already governed the State, he has already been a minister of State, and he is combative, and we need to take on the legitimate confrontations in São Paulo.",626.6,637.3,{"idx":548,"utterance_id":549,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":550,"start_s":551,"end_s":552,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},82,"69380","To get out of this shallow discourse that politics has become today, of sealing... on social networks, discussing punctual issues.",637.62,644.72,{"idx":554,"utterance_id":555,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":556,"start_s":557,"end_s":558,"word_count":140,"topic_slug":559,"topic_label":560,"target_id":561,"target_proposition":562,"stance":563,"stance_confidence":152,"rationale":564,"indexable":124},83,"69381","Am I going to reduce the age of criminal responsibility or not when the public security problem in São Paulo and Brazil is infinitely greater.",645.2,651.62,"seguranca-nacional","National Security","15293e1d-409e-48a4-81a1-592187d63b28","reduce the age of criminal responsibility","contra","criticizes the proposal to lower the age of criminal responsibility as shallow rhetoric.",{"idx":566,"utterance_id":567,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":568,"start_s":569,"end_s":570,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":559,"topic_label":560,"target_id":571,"target_proposition":572,"stance":151,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":574,"indexable":124},84,"69382","We are facing the PCC and CV, which are now transnational organizations.",651.92,656.88,"a9341e56-f542-4a9c-8ac7-a79b7e9564d9","Strengthen public security policies to combat transnational criminal organizations",0.82,"mentions transnational PCC and CV and the need to confront them.",{"idx":576,"utterance_id":577,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":578,"start_s":579,"end_s":580,"word_count":32,"indexable":13},85,"69383","We have very serious urban mobility discussions in the great... metropolises, not only in São Paulo but also in Brazil.",657.3,665.22,{"idx":582,"utterance_id":583,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":584,"start_s":585,"end_s":586,"word_count":104,"indexable":13},86,"69384","So, these are relevant themes like these that require a team of the caliber of the team we are putting together here.",665.26,670.98,{"idx":409,"utterance_id":588,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":589,"start_s":590,"end_s":591,"word_count":345,"indexable":13},"69385","We are talking about five, we are talking about five, on our side, leaders who have experience, competence, public spirit and who have been governors of São Paulo... or ministers of State, or senators of the Republic, or presidential candidates, when they have not been all of those things at the same time.",671.54,690.86,{"idx":593,"utterance_id":594,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":595,"start_s":596,"end_s":597,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},88,"69386","Any one of them.",691.18,692.06,{"idx":599,"utterance_id":600,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":601,"start_s":602,"end_s":603,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},89,"69387","When I say five, I am obviously including Geraldo Alckmin here.",692.16,695.44,{"idx":605,"utterance_id":606,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":607,"start_s":608,"end_s":609,"word_count":99,"indexable":13},90,"69388","and, being from São Paulo, he is also our pre-candidate for the presidency of the Republic.",695.86,700.04,{"idx":611,"utterance_id":612,"speaker_name":8,"text":613,"start_s":614,"end_s":615,"word_count":327,"indexable":13},91,"69389","Minister, I was here taking a look at the 2022 campaign, I covered it, I saw you when, in the second round, you entered an auditorium in a hotel in São Paulo to announce support for the president, you had an extremely relevant participation in relation to the women's vote.",700.3,720.32,{"idx":268,"utterance_id":617,"speaker_name":8,"text":618,"start_s":619,"end_s":620,"word_count":172,"indexable":13},"69390","You even called at the time... the former president Jair Bolsonaro a pedophile in relation to that painter incident that made the headlines, right?",720.98,732.32,{"idx":622,"utterance_id":623,"speaker_name":8,"text":624,"start_s":625,"end_s":626,"word_count":66,"indexable":13},93,"69391","After Jair Bolsonaro had spoken about Venezuelan girls.",732.4,736.32,{"idx":628,"utterance_id":629,"speaker_name":8,"text":630,"start_s":631,"end_s":632,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},94,"69392","You had a very forceful tone at that time in confronting Jair Bolsonaro and, consequently, it yielded votes for President Lula.",736.56,745.32,{"idx":634,"utterance_id":635,"speaker_name":8,"text":636,"start_s":637,"end_s":638,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},95,"69393","You helped Lula, above all, with the female public.",745.4,747.74,{"idx":640,"utterance_id":641,"speaker_name":8,"text":642,"start_s":643,"end_s":644,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},96,"69394","Will this be the same Simone Tebet in 2026?",748.2,751.8,{"idx":646,"utterance_id":647,"speaker_name":8,"text":648,"start_s":649,"end_s":650,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},97,"69395","Will this be the tone used with Flávia?",752.06,753.72,{"idx":652,"utterance_id":653,"speaker_name":8,"text":654,"start_s":655,"end_s":656,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},98,"69396","Bolsonaro?",753.78,754.38,{"idx":658,"utterance_id":659,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":660,"start_s":661,"end_s":662,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},99,"69397","Tainá, I will be for São Paulo and for Brazil everything that São Paulo and Brazil need from me.",756.18,761.14,{"idx":664,"utterance_id":665,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":666,"start_s":667,"end_s":668,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},100,"69398","That is my public-spirited disposition.",761.4,762.78,{"idx":670,"utterance_id":671,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":672,"start_s":673,"end_s":674,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},101,"69399","I don't think I lack courage, I have already shown that.",763.32,765.94,{"idx":676,"utterance_id":677,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":678,"start_s":679,"end_s":680,"word_count":72,"indexable":13},102,"69400","I was not born courageous, but life forged me in that way.",766.42,769.82,{"idx":682,"utterance_id":683,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":684,"start_s":685,"end_s":686,"word_count":140,"indexable":13},103,"69401","Women who go into public life, whether as journalists, as liberal professionals or as politicians, they become stronger through pain.",769.88,777.32,{"idx":688,"utterance_id":689,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":690,"start_s":691,"end_s":692,"word_count":66,"indexable":13},104,"69402","I learned not to grimace and to confront.",777.7,780.18,{"idx":694,"utterance_id":695,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":696,"start_s":697,"end_s":698,"word_count":217,"topic_slug":699,"topic_label":700,"target_id":701,"target_proposition":702,"stance":151,"stance_confidence":179,"rationale":703,"indexable":124},105,"69403","And Bolsonaro's government gave me the courage I lacked to defend women, minorities, youth, our workers, the productive sectors, because bolsonarism represents everything",781.16,795.52,"direitos-humanos","Human rights","46e34418-d4e2-486c-9650-5a941166e90a","guarantee protection for women, the LGBTQIA+ community, and peripheral populations","states she was motivated to defend women, minorities and young people.",{"idx":705,"utterance_id":706,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":707,"start_s":708,"end_s":709,"word_count":106,"indexable":13},106,"69404","that I do not accept and that I do not want for my country.",795.6,798.52,{"idx":711,"utterance_id":712,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":713,"start_s":714,"end_s":715,"word_count":66,"indexable":13},107,"69405","So, if I need to go into confrontation, I will.",798.94,801.46,{"idx":717,"utterance_id":718,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":719,"start_s":720,"end_s":721,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},108,"69406","I have been doing that on social media.",801.8,803.68,{"idx":723,"utterance_id":724,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":725,"start_s":726,"end_s":727,"word_count":276,"indexable":13},109,"69407","I say that those who speak in the name of God, homeland and family today are speaking in the name of their God of money or of their power, a homeland that is not ours and a family that is their own, never the Brazilian family.",804.26,815.02,{"idx":729,"utterance_id":730,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":731,"start_s":732,"end_s":733,"word_count":93,"indexable":13},110,"69408","Showing themselves, the masks are falling, the polls are showing this trend.",816.22,821.94,{"idx":735,"utterance_id":736,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":737,"start_s":738,"end_s":739,"word_count":194,"indexable":13},111,"69409","But I come mainly, Tainá, your question is extremely relevant, to try to raise the level of debate and discussions here in São Paulo and in Brazil.",822.26,831.76,{"idx":741,"utterance_id":742,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":743,"start_s":744,"end_s":745,"word_count":93,"indexable":13},112,"69410","We can no longer have this low, petty, mistaken politics setting the agenda of the newspapers.",832.18,840.3,{"idx":747,"utterance_id":748,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":749,"start_s":750,"end_s":751,"word_count":417,"indexable":13},113,"69411","the media, and it is not your fault, the fault is ours, it is the political class's, while we still have... unemployed people, a youth lost in the face of these international scenarios, a war or more than one international war packing into the country's economy, an industry that continues to have to compete, often unfairly, with other countries in the world.",840.8,864,{"idx":753,"utterance_id":754,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":755,"start_s":756,"end_s":757,"word_count":40,"indexable":13},114,"69412","Anyway, it's a scenario, right?",864.08,865.6,{"idx":759,"utterance_id":760,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":761,"start_s":762,"end_s":763,"word_count":182,"topic_slug":764,"topic_label":765,"target_id":766,"target_proposition":767,"stance":151,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":768,"indexable":124},115,"69413","We have a housing deficit in Brazil and in São Paulo; just in the capital, São Paulo, it's said to be roughly 600,000 housing units.",865.96,873.48,"politica-de-habitacao","Housing policy","bc924e99-3d70-4fd1-a4cf-949670ebff86","expand social housing policies for vulnerable areas","cites a housing deficit of ~600,000 and asks to put social housing on the agenda.",{"idx":770,"utterance_id":771,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":772,"start_s":773,"end_s":774,"word_count":411,"indexable":13},116,"69414","Focusing on social housing, in short, we have extremely important issues and I want to be able to discuss this with the people of São Paulo, with São Paulo's electorate, and help the people of São Paulo elect the best names to the Chamber of Deputies, to the Legislative Assemblies, to the Federal Senate, to the State Government and to the Presidency of the Republic.",873.82,896.52,{"idx":776,"utterance_id":777,"speaker_name":8,"text":778,"start_s":779,"end_s":780,"word_count":32,"indexable":13},117,"69415","Minister, so we don't only briefly discuss national politics, I'd like you to analyze the approval of the 'pauta-bomba' measures.",897.22,905.3,{"idx":782,"utterance_id":783,"speaker_name":8,"text":784,"start_s":785,"end_s":786,"word_count":282,"indexable":13},118,"69416","Whether this greatly harms the national economy; you were Minister of Planning, you were the one who scrutinized the budget and you know that a pauta-bomba greatly undermines the country's fiscal policy and even more so this effort to reduce the fiscal deficit.",905.48,919.2,{"idx":788,"utterance_id":789,"speaker_name":8,"text":790,"start_s":791,"end_s":792,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},119,"69417","Another point, the relationship between Lula and Alcolumbre.",919.76,923.14,{"idx":794,"utterance_id":795,"speaker_name":8,"text":796,"start_s":797,"end_s":798,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},120,"69418","You were a senator; you know both Lula and Alcolumbre very well.",923.68,927.56,{"idx":800,"utterance_id":801,"speaker_name":8,"text":802,"start_s":803,"end_s":804,"word_count":87,"indexable":13},121,"69419","Do you still believe in the possibility of a dialogue between the two?",928.02,931.46,{"idx":806,"utterance_id":807,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":808,"start_s":809,"end_s":810,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},122,"69420","I have no doubt.",933.04,933.78,{"idx":812,"utterance_id":813,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":814,"start_s":815,"end_s":816,"word_count":66,"topic_slug":817,"topic_label":818,"target_id":819,"target_proposition":820,"stance":151,"stance_confidence":152,"rationale":821,"indexable":124},123,"69421","I know the temperament and personality of both.",933.86,936.26,"relacoes-intergovernamentais","Intergovernmental Relations","d0c40dfe-226e-4365-8e04-8757cbce338f","promote dialogue between the Executive and the National Congress","says they believe Alcolumbre will not refuse to talk with Lula.",{"idx":823,"utterance_id":824,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":825,"start_s":826,"end_s":827,"word_count":321,"indexable":13},124,"69422","Davi Alcolumbre may have all his faults, as anyone does, but he is a man of dialogue, he has common sense; time passes, he's upset one way or the other, but after a little while he calls to talk, and he has never refused.",937.18,952.28,{"idx":829,"utterance_id":830,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":831,"start_s":832,"end_s":833,"word_count":93,"indexable":13},125,"69423","And I don't believe he will refuse to talk with President Lula.",952.68,955.56,{"idx":835,"utterance_id":836,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":837,"start_s":838,"end_s":839,"word_count":116,"indexable":13},126,"69424","And to indicate, then, to smooth over the rough edges for the good of the country and for governability, aiming, obviously, at Brazil, despite him having positions of distancing himself.",955.96,965.98,{"idx":841,"utterance_id":842,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":843,"start_s":844,"end_s":845,"word_count":40,"indexable":13},127,"69425","In favor of or against the government.",966.02,967.14,{"idx":847,"utterance_id":848,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":849,"start_s":850,"end_s":851,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},128,"69426","So, I think the dialogue will happen.",967.46,969.14,{"idx":853,"utterance_id":854,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":855,"start_s":856,"end_s":857,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},129,"69427","I know Davi Alcolumbre very well.",969.22,970.8,{"idx":859,"utterance_id":860,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":861,"start_s":862,"end_s":863,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},130,"69428","I was his colleague for eight years.",971.4,974.36,{"idx":865,"utterance_id":866,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":867,"start_s":868,"end_s":869,"word_count":246,"indexable":13},131,"69429","Regarding the pauta-bomba measures, Lurib... without detracting from the discussion, without detracting from the bill that was approved yesterday — which I think is a meritorious bill — I think we need to debate this issue.",975.02,986.3,{"idx":871,"utterance_id":872,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":873,"start_s":874,"end_s":875,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},132,"69430","Climate effects are present, impacting the global and Brazilian economy.",986.68,991.34,{"idx":877,"utterance_id":878,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":879,"start_s":880,"end_s":881,"word_count":172,"topic_slug":882,"topic_label":883,"target_id":884,"target_proposition":885,"stance":151,"stance_confidence":152,"rationale":886,"indexable":124},133,"69431","When we talk about agribusiness debts, we're also talking about family farming debt, which puts food on our table.",991.68,999.56,"agricultura-e-agronegocio","Agriculture & Agribusiness","41813a91-2bd2-4a23-8102-3648ea93eaa1","refinance agribusiness debts","states that agribusiness debts also involve family 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make very clear where the money to compensate will come from.",1012.08,1017.32,"d8d4c107-f071-4e4e-b627-b11e1e89c016","Require budgetary compensation for new permanent expenses",0.86,"criticizes the lack of indication of a source to offset new expenses.",{"idx":916,"utterance_id":917,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":918,"start_s":919,"end_s":920,"word_count":72,"indexable":13},138,"69436","There is a law called the Fiscal Responsibility Law.",1017.46,1019.62,{"idx":922,"utterance_id":923,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":924,"start_s":925,"end_s":926,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},139,"69437","And it is clear.",1019.98,1021.02,{"idx":928,"utterance_id":929,"speaker_name":74,"speaker_slug":75,"text":930,"start_s":931,"end_s":932,"word_count":172,"topic_slug":223,"topic_label":224,"target_id":911,"target_proposition":912,"stance":151,"stance_confidence":179,"rationale":933,"indexable":124},140,"69438","If I create a permanent expense, I must have a budgetary offset, 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