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action.",false,{"idx":84,"utterance_id":85,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":86,"start_s":87,"end_s":88,"word_count":89,"topic_slug":75,"topic_label":76,"target_id":90,"target_proposition":91,"stance":79,"stance_confidence":92,"rationale":93,"indexable":94},1,"84408","It's almost an embarrassed vote for Lula.",5.24,8.2,8,"591bfcab-8c25-4975-b70f-d6e1271a0d75","attract tactical votes from the left",0.78,"Classifies the vote as 'envergonhado', describing electoral behavior.",true,{"idx":96,"utterance_id":97,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":98,"start_s":99,"end_s":100,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":75,"topic_label":76,"target_id":90,"target_proposition":91,"stance":79,"stance_confidence":102,"rationale":103,"indexable":94},2,"84409","It's another useful vote from the left to defeat the right.",8.26,11.66,11,0.88,"Explicitly declares that it is 'um voto útil da esquerda' - description of the electoral 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participate and help chip in for my campaign.",67.8,71.66,17,0.95,"Explicit call to action: 'Clica aqui no link' to participate\u002Fcrowdfund.",{"idx":4,"utterance_id":177,"speaker_name":178,"text":179,"start_s":180,"end_s":181,"word_count":128,"indexable":82},"84417","Desconhecido","Now with Deputy Kim Cafadire, he will speak with us now.",71.88,75.28,{"idx":101,"utterance_id":183,"speaker_name":178,"text":184,"start_s":185,"end_s":186,"word_count":4,"indexable":82},"84418","Hi Rafael, that's right, hello to Chaldo again.",79.2,81.08,{"idx":128,"utterance_id":188,"speaker_name":178,"text":189,"start_s":190,"end_s":191,"word_count":110,"indexable":82},"84419","I'm here with Kim Kataguiri, federal deputy for Missão from São Paulo, the only deputy of the party so far.",81.12,87.34,{"idx":74,"utterance_id":193,"speaker_name":178,"text":194,"start_s":195,"end_s":196,"word_count":197,"indexable":82},"84420","Kim, to start at the beginning: did you announce a pre-candidacy for governor and 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The morale of Flávio Bolsonaro's troops, so to speak, is absolutely low; it's almost an embarrassed vote for Lula; it's another useful vote from the left to defeat the right. So Renan does indeed have this spontaneous effort that I think is somewhat symptomatic of the spirit of the times, and the more experienced analyst, more attentive to what is happening in the world, I think would already see the phenomenon of Renan's rise and his victory in the elections.",232.62,273.54,120,0.85,"Reiterates that part of the votes is 'útil' to defeat the right - analytical description.",{"idx":15,"utterance_id":325,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":326,"start_s":327,"end_s":328,"word_count":121,"indexable":82},"84439","I'm not going to give you a number for the caucus because... 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it seems to me — I have no behind-the-scenes information on this — but he anticipates the scandals to his own allies, something that Flávio does not seem to have done in the case of Forcaro.",465.82,479.68,"daaf947c-b277-42e4-9244-e0e2892e3c89","anticipate scandals for allies","Says that Lula tends to preempt scandals with allies, unlike Flávio.",{"idx":534,"utterance_id":535,"speaker_name":178,"text":536,"start_s":537,"end_s":538,"word_count":4,"indexable":82},63,"84470","Ok, the last question is regarding today's event here.",480.52,483.06,{"idx":540,"utterance_id":541,"speaker_name":178,"text":542,"start_s":543,"end_s":544,"word_count":380,"indexable":82},64,"84471","We're going to have the public launch of Renan Santos's candidacy — what are the expectations for this... this kick-off of the campaign, even considering the debates that Flávio Bolsonaro and Lula seem not to want to attend at this time?",483.1,497.02,{"idx":546,"utterance_id":547,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":548,"start_s":549,"end_s":550,"word_count":316,"topic_slug":161,"topic_label":162,"target_id":551,"target_proposition":552,"stance":153,"stance_confidence":80,"rationale":553,"indexable":82},65,"84472","I think that both Lula's and Flávio Bolsonaro's participation in the debates is good for Renan, because he can confront them with scandals and with their lack of proposals.",497.58,507.08,"30d787d1-ef58-4e91-b9fe-60964c24c736","participate in presidential debates","States that participating in debates would be good for Renan to confront opponents.",{"idx":555,"utterance_id":556,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":557,"start_s":558,"end_s":559,"word_count":470,"topic_slug":161,"topic_label":162,"target_id":560,"target_proposition":561,"stance":79,"stance_confidence":562,"rationale":563,"indexable":82},66,"84473","Just as their absence is also good for Renan, because he'll have airtime on 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