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Let me choose my words carefully here, because they'll sue me and I need to win.",763.26,787.38,{"idx":662,"utterance_id":663,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":664,"start_s":665,"end_s":666,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},109,"95228","Let's say that such Bahian people, sympathetic to the president of the republic, made use of material goods of a bank under investigation.",792.42,809.6,{"idx":668,"utterance_id":669,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":670,"start_s":671,"end_s":672,"word_count":139,"indexable":14},110,"95229","to use that influence and the appeal of those material goods to have, let's say, sexual relationships with people of the opposite sex.",811.56,822.86,{"idx":674,"utterance_id":675,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":676,"start_s":677,"end_s":678,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},111,"95230","Let's see me lose a lawsuit with that 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No, I don't hope, I know that's not the case for most of you.",1070.34,1075.46,{"idx":889,"utterance_id":890,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":891,"start_s":892,"end_s":893,"word_count":91,"indexable":14},147,"95266","So, most of you have already gone through hell with us.",1077.1,1079.94,{"idx":895,"utterance_id":896,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":897,"start_s":898,"end_s":899,"word_count":181,"indexable":14},148,"95267","And what I'm offering you now is not salvation, what I'm offering you now is not getting rich, what I'm offering you now is not an easy victory, but asking for one more year, one more sacrifice from you, one more hard period of work, more engagement, because it's people like those who are here",1080.2,1098.44,{"idx":901,"utterance_id":902,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":903,"start_s":904,"end_s":905,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},149,"95268","who change the course of the election.",1098.9,1100.12,{"idx":907,"utterance_id":908,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":909,"start_s":910,"end_s":911,"word_count":108,"indexable":14},150,"95269","Most people only take an interest in politics on the weekend of the election.",1100.18,1103.58,{"idx":913,"utterance_id":914,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":915,"start_s":916,"end_s":917,"word_count":91,"indexable":14},151,"95270","It's people like those here who turn those people's votes.",1103.86,1106.72,{"idx":919,"utterance_id":920,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":921,"start_s":922,"end_s":923,"word_count":41,"indexable":14},152,"95271","Who changes people's choices... 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