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I saw there's a bunch of folks who used to be on your side.",2989.14,2996.34,{"idx":4320,"utterance_id":4321,"speaker_name":8,"text":4322,"start_s":4323,"end_s":4324,"word_count":59,"indexable":13},721,"10234","and who are giving you a hard time online.",2997.18,2999.62,{"idx":4326,"utterance_id":4327,"speaker_name":8,"text":4328,"start_s":4329,"end_s":4330,"word_count":59,"indexable":13},722,"10235","No — the 95% thing, I don't know, whatever.",2999.94,3002.66,{"idx":4332,"utterance_id":4333,"speaker_name":8,"text":4334,"start_s":4335,"end_s":4336,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},723,"10236","That 95% thing has to do with the tax reform — you were... how was it?",3003.74,3010.66,{"idx":4338,"utterance_id":4339,"speaker_name":8,"text":4340,"start_s":4341,"end_s":4342,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},724,"10237","You liked 95% of it, right?",3010.74,3012.9,{"idx":4344,"utterance_id":4345,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":4346,"start_s":4347,"end_s":4348,"word_count":71,"indexable":13},725,"10238","I said that I agreed with 95% of the text, right?",3013.1,3015.56,{"idx":4350,"utterance_id":4351,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":4352,"start_s":4353,"end_s":4354,"word_count":53,"indexable":13},726,"10239","Because what did I mean there?",3016.04,3017.04,{"idx":4356,"utterance_id":4357,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":4358,"start_s":4359,"end_s":4360,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},727,"10240","Simple.",3017.32,3017.66,{"idx":4362,"utterance_id":4363,"speaker_name":115,"text":4364,"start_s":4365,"end_s":4366,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},728,"10241","I agree with 95% of the text.",3018.86,3020.1,{"idx":4368,"utterance_id":4369,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":4370,"start_s":4371,"end_s":4372,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},729,"10242","Seems obvious.",3020.58,3021.52,{"idx":4374,"utterance_id":4375,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":4376,"start_s":4377,"end_s":4378,"word_count":173,"indexable":13},730,"10243","The draft, man, I think it progressed a lot; there are many things I agree with and some adjustments I think we need to make.",3022.4,3028.02,{"idx":4380,"utterance_id":4381,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":4382,"start_s":4383,"end_s":4384,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},731,"10244","It's that simple.",3028.1,3028.6,{"idx":4386,"utterance_id":4387,"speaker_name":8,"text":4388,"start_s":4389,"end_s":4390,"word_count":251,"indexable":13},732,"10245","Yeah. 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You have these three breakdowns.",3728.02,3732.08,{"idx":5542,"utterance_id":5543,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5544,"start_s":5545,"end_s":5546,"word_count":71,"indexable":13},926,"10439","That's for making decisions about the operation of the account.",3732.28,3734.8,{"idx":5548,"utterance_id":5549,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5550,"start_s":5551,"end_s":5552,"word_count":65,"indexable":13},927,"10440","That is one of the issues that was discussed there.",3735.2,3736.92,{"idx":5554,"utterance_id":5555,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5556,"start_s":5557,"end_s":5558,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},928,"10441","But there are several.",3738.38,3739.66,{"idx":5560,"utterance_id":5561,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5562,"start_s":5563,"end_s":5564,"word_count":71,"indexable":13},929,"10442","The issue of intermetropolitan transport being included in the reduced rate.",3740.08,3745.02,{"idx":5566,"utterance_id":5567,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5568,"start_s":5569,"end_s":5570,"word_count":90,"indexable":13},930,"10443","This is important for our 30 cities here in Campinas, São Paulo.",3745.06,3748,{"idx":5572,"utterance_id":5573,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5574,"start_s":5575,"end_s":5576,"word_count":191,"indexable":13},931,"10444","There's the issue of education, the issue of transport, the issue of health which was put in the reduced rate, and the basic food basket which ended up with a zero rate.",3748.9,3756.28,{"idx":5578,"utterance_id":5579,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5580,"start_s":5581,"end_s":5582,"word_count":53,"indexable":13},932,"10445","So, several agribusiness issues were addressed.",3757.74,3759.92,{"idx":5584,"utterance_id":5585,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5586,"start_s":5587,"end_s":5588,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},933,"10446","So, those modifications were made.",3759.98,3763.7,{"idx":5590,"utterance_id":5591,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5592,"start_s":5593,"end_s":5594,"word_count":257,"indexable":13},934,"10447","The Senate will now have an opportunity to run more simulations, to work more with Nunes to fine-tune, for example, the rates — one concern is, okay, but how much will that rate be now?",3763.76,3774.98,{"idx":5596,"utterance_id":5597,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5598,"start_s":5599,"end_s":5600,"word_count":113,"indexable":13},935,"10448","Because exceptions were created, some exceptions were made, but what is going to be the maximum rate?",3775.32,3779.76,{"idx":5602,"utterance_id":5603,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5604,"start_s":5605,"end_s":5606,"word_count":59,"indexable":13},936,"10449","Are we going to define that in the PEC or not?",3779.84,3781.4,{"idx":5608,"utterance_id":5609,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5610,"start_s":5611,"end_s":5612,"word_count":53,"indexable":13},937,"10450","So, that's the discussion at the moment.",3781.52,3782.7,{"idx":5614,"utterance_id":5615,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5616,"start_s":5617,"end_s":5618,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},938,"10451","Now, I understand.",3782.74,3783.26,{"idx":5620,"utterance_id":5621,"speaker_name":8,"text":5622,"start_s":5623,"end_s":5624,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},939,"10452","You spoke briefly there about education.",3783.56,3785.88,{"idx":5626,"utterance_id":5627,"speaker_name":8,"text":5628,"start_s":5629,"end_s":5630,"word_count":149,"indexable":13},940,"10453","And man, one thing that caught my attention, I don't know, maybe about a month ago, was the issue of civic-military schools.",3786.88,3793.3,{"idx":5632,"utterance_id":5633,"speaker_name":8,"text":5634,"start_s":5635,"end_s":5636,"word_count":76,"indexable":13},941,"10454","That you said you were going to keep this here in São Paulo.",3794.48,3796.6,{"idx":5638,"utterance_id":5639,"speaker_name":8,"text":5640,"start_s":5641,"end_s":5642,"word_count":96,"indexable":13},942,"10455","The first time I saw it, the information came through kind of garbled on Twitter, right?",3797.54,3804.06,{"idx":5644,"utterance_id":5645,"speaker_name":8,"text":5646,"start_s":5647,"end_s":5648,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},943,"10456","And the first feeling I had was... 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You have a normal school, which will have its normal pedagogical planning, will have everything normal, it will function.",3858,3866.52,{"idx":5722,"utterance_id":5723,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5724,"start_s":5725,"end_s":5726,"word_count":155,"indexable":13},956,"10469","You will have two or three reserve military police officers there who will help ensure discipline, will help organize the school routine.",3867.64,3876.48,{"idx":5728,"utterance_id":5729,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5730,"start_s":5731,"end_s":5732,"word_count":59,"indexable":13},957,"10470","That gives parents a certain comfort.",3876.72,3878.98,{"idx":5734,"utterance_id":5735,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5736,"start_s":5737,"end_s":5738,"word_count":71,"indexable":13},958,"10471","You go to the countryside... 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there, there's flag-raising, they'll organize that routine of the schoolyard, the school's entrance, etc.",3906.26,3915.72,{"idx":5764,"utterance_id":5765,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5766,"start_s":5767,"end_s":5768,"word_count":78,"indexable":13},963,"10476","So there's nothing more to it, nothing out of this world.",3916.04,3918.4,{"idx":5770,"utterance_id":5771,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5772,"start_s":5773,"end_s":5774,"word_count":209,"indexable":13},964,"10477","These military personnel who are called up serve as contracted personnel for a set time, so they receive an additional amount on top of their salary while they are performing the task for that period.",3918.92,3928.52,{"idx":5776,"utterance_id":5777,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":5778,"start_s":5779,"end_s":5780,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},965,"10478","That doesn't create long-term pension 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What it will generate for the State depends on how much we'll exit the company, because we won't exit completely.",4482.5,4489.96,{"idx":6581,"utterance_id":6582,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":6583,"start_s":6584,"end_s":6585,"word_count":53,"indexable":13},1100,"10613","What did we decide?",4490.02,4491.56,{"idx":6587,"utterance_id":6588,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":6589,"start_s":6590,"end_s":6591,"word_count":90,"indexable":13},1101,"10614","We are going to do what we call a follow-on with lower concentration.",4492,4495.94,{"idx":6593,"utterance_id":6594,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":6595,"start_s":6596,"end_s":6597,"word_count":149,"indexable":13},1102,"10615","It means we will sell part of the shares, we will lose control, but we will continue to have a relevant stake.",4496.44,4501.84,{"idx":6599,"utterance_id":6600,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":6601,"start_s":6602,"end_s":6603,"word_count":96,"indexable":13},1103,"10616","This is to ensure that those contracts, those investments and that universalization will happen.",4502.2,4506.76,{"idx":6605,"utterance_id":6606,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":6607,"start_s":6608,"end_s":6609,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},1104,"10617","So we'll continue having a... 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certificate, and I'm a company that transacts with foreign companies, so I need to resolve my tax liability.",4826.8,4840.92,{"idx":7140,"utterance_id":7141,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7142,"start_s":7143,"end_s":7144,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},1194,"10707","We need to clear that.",4841.46,4842.74,{"idx":7146,"utterance_id":7147,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7148,"start_s":7149,"end_s":7150,"word_count":155,"indexable":13},1195,"10708","Even to reduce the administrative cost of this thing and to collect, bring money in, because we need money to carry out public policy.",4843.96,4850.92,{"idx":7152,"utterance_id":7153,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7154,"start_s":7155,"end_s":7156,"word_count":191,"indexable":13},1196,"10709","So you encourage people to resolve tax delinquencies and suddenly from that active debt management you have — 360 billion — 12 billion, 15 billion, 20 billion will come 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futurology.",4885.62,4887.36,{"idx":7212,"utterance_id":7213,"speaker_name":8,"text":7184,"start_s":7214,"end_s":7215,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},1206,"10719",4888.42,4888.7,{"idx":7217,"utterance_id":7218,"speaker_name":8,"text":7219,"start_s":7220,"end_s":7221,"word_count":131,"indexable":13},1207,"10720","And I don't even know to what extent you can or want to speak, so feel completely at ease, okay?",4889.44,4894.78,{"idx":7223,"utterance_id":7224,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7225,"start_s":7226,"end_s":7227,"word_count":59,"indexable":13},1208,"10721","Here I feel really comfortable.",4895.14,4896.82,{"idx":7229,"utterance_id":7230,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7231,"start_s":7232,"end_s":7233,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},1209,"10722","I feel at home here, right?",4896.9,4897.94,{"idx":7235,"utterance_id":7236,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7237,"start_s":7238,"end_s":7239,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},1210,"10723","It's like Coca-Cola to me.",4899.16,4900.46,{"idx":7241,"utterance_id":7242,"speaker_name":8,"text":7243,"start_s":7244,"end_s":7245,"word_count":113,"indexable":13},1211,"10724","But it's because here's the thing: we have a fact, which is that Bolsonaro is ineligible.",4902.58,4907.96,{"idx":7247,"utterance_id":7248,"speaker_name":8,"text":7249,"start_s":7250,"end_s":7251,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},1212,"10725","It means that in the next presidential election your political group will need another representative.",4908.7,4919.28,{"idx":7253,"utterance_id":7254,"speaker_name":8,"text":7255,"start_s":7256,"end_s":7257,"word_count":71,"indexable":13},1213,"10726","Because he is ineligible and will remain so for eight years.",4919.8,4922.82,{"idx":7259,"utterance_id":7260,"speaker_name":115,"text":7261,"start_s":7262,"end_s":7263,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},1214,"10727","Or 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him.",5007.52,5008.88,{"idx":7360,"utterance_id":7361,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7362,"start_s":7363,"end_s":7364,"word_count":59,"indexable":13},1231,"10744","First, this political group hasn't lost its leader.",5009.88,5011.82,{"idx":7366,"utterance_id":7367,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7368,"start_s":7369,"end_s":7370,"word_count":53,"indexable":13},1232,"10745","This political group still has its leader.",5012.26,5013.8,{"idx":7372,"utterance_id":7373,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7374,"start_s":7375,"end_s":7376,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},1233,"10746","And the leader is Bolsonaro.",5013.84,5014.8,{"idx":7378,"utterance_id":7379,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7380,"start_s":7381,"end_s":7382,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},1234,"10747","He formed this political 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Presidente Prudente's anniversary there on September 14, I'm sure that if he goes, it'll be a success, it'll draw a lot of people, because people like him, they saw authenticity in him, they found in him a right-wing option, since Brazilian society, to a large extent, is conservative, economically liberal, and conservative in customs.",5060.82,5085.36,{"idx":7456,"utterance_id":7457,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7458,"start_s":7459,"end_s":7460,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},1247,"10760","But people used to be kind of embarrassed.",5085.9,5088.46,{"idx":7462,"utterance_id":7463,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7464,"start_s":7465,"end_s":7466,"word_count":78,"indexable":13},1248,"10761","Not anymore, he gave a voice to that crowd and formed leaders.",5088.72,5091.7,{"idx":7468,"utterance_id":7469,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":7470,"start_s":7471,"end_s":7472,"word_count":88,"indexable":13},1249,"10762","So who leads this right-wing group, who 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Starting out there will earn six grand, seven grand, right?",7714.44,7721.82,{"idx":11434,"utterance_id":11435,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11436,"start_s":11437,"end_s":11438,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1913,"11426","So it's important.",7721.9,7723.2,{"idx":11440,"utterance_id":11441,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11442,"start_s":11443,"end_s":11444,"word_count":288,"indexable":13},1914,"11427","And I want the student to have tools, I want the student to program; for a student to program they have to know math, have logical reasoning, and I want the student to know Portuguese, because the market will demand their ability to communicate.",7723.74,7734.9,{"idx":11446,"utterance_id":11447,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11448,"start_s":11449,"end_s":11450,"word_count":179,"indexable":13},1915,"11428","So, I want that public school student to succeed, I want him to learn a language, I want him to know mathematics, I want him to know Portuguese.",7734.94,7741.64,{"idx":11452,"utterance_id":11453,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11454,"start_s":11455,"end_s":11456,"word_count":53,"indexable":13},1916,"11429","So, we're putting together a system.",7742.18,7744,{"idx":11458,"utterance_id":11459,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11460,"start_s":11461,"end_s":11462,"word_count":33,"indexable":13},1917,"11430","I have the classes...",7744.08,7744.66,{"idx":11464,"utterance_id":11465,"speaker_name":115,"text":11466,"start_s":11467,"end_s":11468,"word_count":90,"indexable":13},1918,"11431","He has to know the national anthem too, with the civic and military schools.",7744.7,7747.82,{"idx":11470,"utterance_id":11471,"speaker_name":115,"text":11472,"start_s":11473,"end_s":11474,"word_count":33,"indexable":13},1919,"11432","Yeah, that's good.",7748.04,7748.64,{"idx":11476,"utterance_id":11477,"speaker_name":115,"text":11478,"start_s":11479,"end_s":11480,"word_count":53,"indexable":13},1920,"11433","Knowing the national anthem is cool, it's important.",7748.82,7750.64,{"idx":11482,"utterance_id":11483,"speaker_name":115,"text":11484,"start_s":11485,"end_s":11486,"word_count":33,"indexable":13},1921,"11434","The student has to...",7750.72,7751.2,{"idx":11488,"utterance_id":11489,"speaker_name":115,"text":11490,"start_s":11491,"end_s":11492,"word_count":33,"indexable":13},1922,"11435","From end to end.",7751.54,7752.5,{"idx":11494,"utterance_id":11495,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11496,"start_s":11497,"end_s":11498,"word_count":53,"indexable":13},1923,"11436","By heart, including the details.",7753.42,7755.32,{"idx":11500,"utterance_id":11501,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11502,"start_s":11503,"end_s":11504,"word_count":90,"indexable":13},1924,"11437","The \"o em teu seio\" in the first part, \"no teu seio\" in the second part.",7756.96,7760.78,{"idx":11506,"utterance_id":11507,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11508,"start_s":11509,"end_s":11510,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1925,"11438","Come on, man.",7760.82,7761.52,{"idx":11512,"utterance_id":11513,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11514,"start_s":11515,"end_s":11516,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},1926,"11439","Yeah, what are you thinking?",7761.98,7763.38,{"idx":11518,"utterance_id":11519,"speaker_name":115,"text":11520,"start_s":11521,"end_s":11522,"word_count":78,"indexable":13},1927,"11440","And that other one, there's one that's... What is it again?",7763.42,7767.38,{"idx":11524,"utterance_id":11525,"speaker_name":115,"text":11526,"start_s":11527,"end_s":11528,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},1928,"11441","It's... \"We wish to confirm peace.\"",7768.26,7771.9,{"idx":11530,"utterance_id":11531,"speaker_name":115,"text":11532,"start_s":11533,"end_s":11534,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},1929,"11442","That's the Army's song.",7771.94,7772.78,{"idx":11536,"utterance_id":11537,"speaker_name":115,"text":11538,"start_s":11539,"end_s":11540,"word_count":53,"indexable":13},1930,"11443","That's it, Tomás, it's already kind of...",7772.82,7774.14,{"idx":11542,"utterance_id":11543,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11544,"start_s":11545,"end_s":11546,"word_count":65,"indexable":13},1931,"11444","Many years of hymns and songs in the Armed 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life.",7805.42,7807.58,{"idx":11601,"utterance_id":11602,"speaker_name":8,"text":11603,"start_s":11604,"end_s":11605,"word_count":65,"indexable":13},1941,"11454","When I checked, he couldn't march either.",7807.96,7809.7,{"idx":11607,"utterance_id":11608,"speaker_name":8,"text":11609,"start_s":11610,"end_s":11611,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},1942,"11455","The lieutenant was really clumsy marching there.",7812.86,7816.32,{"idx":11613,"utterance_id":11614,"speaker_name":8,"text":11615,"start_s":11616,"end_s":11617,"word_count":185,"indexable":13},1943,"11456","When I was on guard duty, I was the one who carried the flag, man, to raise it and all, because the other guys were really bad, you know?",7816.7,7823.66,{"idx":11619,"utterance_id":11620,"speaker_name":8,"text":11621,"start_s":11622,"end_s":11623,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},1944,"11457","It wasn't that I was actually 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operator.",7860.28,7862.24,{"idx":11697,"utterance_id":11698,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11699,"start_s":11700,"end_s":11701,"word_count":191,"indexable":13},1957,"11470","So, what Sabesp will have to do to become... New Sabesp, Sabesp, we'll continue as shareholders, but there will be another control, because control will be fragmented.",7862.42,7872.7,{"idx":11703,"utterance_id":11704,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11705,"start_s":11706,"end_s":11707,"word_count":143,"indexable":13},1958,"11471","So, I'll have a board and shareholder representation on that board, a chairman of the board, a company CEO, etc.",7872.84,7880.62,{"idx":11709,"utterance_id":11710,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11711,"start_s":11712,"end_s":11713,"word_count":33,"indexable":13},1959,"11472","What will happen?",7881.64,7882.68,{"idx":11715,"utterance_id":11716,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11717,"start_s":11718,"end_s":11719,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},1960,"11473","The company will have to make many more investments, because that will be tied to the new business plan.",7883.22,7888,{"idx":11721,"utterance_id":11722,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11723,"start_s":11724,"end_s":11725,"word_count":65,"indexable":13},1961,"11474","It's 10 billion more in less time, etc.",7888.04,7889.9,{"idx":11727,"utterance_id":11728,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11729,"start_s":11730,"end_s":11731,"word_count":203,"indexable":13},1962,"11475","They will have to accelerate the universalization method, they'll have to do all the Integrity ET, they'll have to do everything that is already planned in terms of investment in the municipalities, in the 375 municipalities.",7890.78,7901.44,{"idx":11733,"utterance_id":11734,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11735,"start_s":11736,"end_s":11737,"word_count":96,"indexable":13},1963,"11476","Sabesp will have to not only maintain the workforce, but hire more people,",7901.84,7905.42,{"idx":11739,"utterance_id":11740,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11741,"start_s":11742,"end_s":11743,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},1964,"11477","And moreover, these guys who today are... public employees will become employees in a large private corporation.",7906.32,7914.3,{"idx":11745,"utterance_id":11746,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11747,"start_s":11748,"end_s":11749,"word_count":90,"indexable":13},1965,"11478","That changes the bonus policy, that changes the remuneration policy for the better.",7914.7,7918.14,{"idx":11751,"utterance_id":11752,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":2929,"start_s":11753,"end_s":11754,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},1966,"11479",7918.74,7919.86,{"idx":11756,"utterance_id":11757,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11758,"start_s":11759,"end_s":11760,"word_count":215,"indexable":13},1967,"11480","This company will gain strength, because when I start, even through Universaliza SP, which is our program focused on structuring concessions and PPPs for those municipalities not covered by Sabesp.",7920.24,7935.42,{"idx":11762,"utterance_id":11763,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11764,"start_s":11765,"end_s":11766,"word_count":65,"indexable":13},1968,"11481","When you hold the auction, who is going to win?",7935.54,7937.4,{"idx":11768,"utterance_id":11769,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11770,"start_s":11771,"end_s":11772,"word_count":65,"indexable":13},1969,"11482","Sabesp, like it just won the auction in Olímpia.",7937.64,7939.46,{"idx":11774,"utterance_id":11775,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11776,"start_s":11777,"end_s":11778,"word_count":149,"indexable":13},1970,"11483","And tomorrow you'll have Sabesp entering other states, in other sanitation auctions elsewhere and winning in other countries.",7940,7945.28,{"idx":11780,"utterance_id":11781,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11782,"start_s":11783,"end_s":11784,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},1971,"11484","So Sabesp will only grow.",7945.32,7946.6,{"idx":11786,"utterance_id":11787,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11788,"start_s":11789,"end_s":11790,"word_count":59,"indexable":13},1972,"11485","It will only grow, I have no doubt about that.",7947.34,7948.54,{"idx":11792,"utterance_id":11793,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11794,"start_s":11795,"end_s":11796,"word_count":59,"indexable":13},1973,"11486","It will become a large global corporation.",7948.62,7952.08,{"idx":11798,"utterance_id":11799,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11800,"start_s":11801,"end_s":11802,"word_count":113,"indexable":13},1974,"11487","And for me that group that's there, which is of good quality, is of good quality.",7953.4,7957.36,{"idx":11804,"utterance_id":11805,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11806,"start_s":11807,"end_s":11808,"word_count":288,"indexable":13},1975,"11488","So what we want when we talk about privatization, actually, is... to bring forward the universalization target, put more capital, capital in less time, get there faster... But Sabesp is a big company and will continue to be a big company, a major reference.",7957.78,7972.86,{"idx":11810,"utterance_id":11811,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11812,"start_s":11813,"end_s":11814,"word_count":173,"indexable":13},1976,"11489","And I think those who are there don't have to be afraid of this, because they'll be well utilized, they'll earn more and this company will grow.",7972.9,7978.42,{"idx":11816,"utterance_id":11817,"speaker_name":8,"text":11818,"start_s":11819,"end_s":11820,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},1977,"11490","Great.",7979.5,7980.06,{"idx":11822,"utterance_id":11823,"speaker_name":8,"text":11824,"start_s":11825,"end_s":11826,"word_count":71,"indexable":13},1978,"11491","Tarcísio, thanks for coming to chat with me, man.",7980.46,7983.26,{"idx":11828,"utterance_id":11829,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11830,"start_s":11831,"end_s":11832,"word_count":33,"indexable":13},1979,"11492","I'm always happy.",7984.56,7985.24,{"idx":11834,"utterance_id":11835,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11836,"start_s":11837,"end_s":11838,"word_count":59,"indexable":13},1980,"11493","I played arcade games, drank Coca-Cola here the whole show.",7985.54,7989.08,{"idx":11840,"utterance_id":11841,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11842,"start_s":11843,"end_s":11844,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},1981,"11494","I got a gift.",7989.68,7990.8,{"idx":11846,"utterance_id":11847,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11848,"start_s":11849,"end_s":11850,"word_count":71,"indexable":13},1982,"11495","I got a really cool box over there, full of stuff.",7991.18,7993.52,{"idx":11852,"utterance_id":11853,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11854,"start_s":11855,"end_s":11856,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},1983,"11496","I got the Insider shirt here.",7993.58,7994.88,{"idx":11858,"utterance_id":11859,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11860,"start_s":11861,"end_s":11862,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1984,"11497","Man, it's perfect.",7995.64,7997,{"idx":11864,"utterance_id":11865,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11866,"start_s":11867,"end_s":11868,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},1985,"11498","Really cool.",7997.4,7997.8,{"idx":11870,"utterance_id":11871,"speaker_name":8,"text":11872,"start_s":11873,"end_s":11874,"word_count":143,"indexable":13},1986,"11499","So we'll schedule again in about six months for you to tell me how things are going again.",7998.14,8001.78,{"idx":11876,"utterance_id":11877,"speaker_name":8,"text":1701,"start_s":11878,"end_s":11879,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},1987,"11500",8001.82,8002.18,{"idx":11881,"utterance_id":11882,"speaker_name":8,"text":11883,"start_s":11884,"end_s":11885,"word_count":131,"indexable":13},1988,"11501","Tell me your social networks, or anything on the internet you'd like people to check out.",8002.48,8008.08,{"idx":11887,"utterance_id":11888,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11889,"start_s":11890,"end_s":11891,"word_count":779,"indexable":13},1989,"11502","If anyone wants to follow us on social media, I always... used social networks to publicize what's happening, promote us, promote work, publicize inaugurations, publicize... Man, we're there inaugurating a daycare center, a Poupatempo, a vicinal road, a highway, a paving, or talking business — today signing the Rodanel contract, for example, signing the Rodanel contract, and then this work should start this year, in 2025. I want to deliver the first section, if all goes well, which will be the stretch from Fernão to Dutra, the stretch from Bandeirantes to Fernão in '26, that is, in '26 we'll have this ring road operating, it'll be cool, and we'll have the opportunity for people to follow us there, right?",8008.14,8048.34,{"idx":11893,"utterance_id":11894,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11895,"start_s":11896,"end_s":11897,"word_count":76,"indexable":13},1990,"11503","So it's the handle @TarcísioGDF, GDF is Gomes de Freitas, right?",8048.38,8053.16,{"idx":11899,"utterance_id":11900,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11901,"start_s":11902,"end_s":11903,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},1991,"11504","The initials, then, of the name.",8053.86,8055,{"idx":11905,"utterance_id":11906,"speaker_name":36,"speaker_slug":37,"text":11907,"start_s":11908,"end_s":11909,"word_count":131,"indexable":13},1992,"11505","The @TarcísioGDF handle on Twitter, @TarcísioGDF on Instagram, on Facebook too, it 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