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many people thought Érica would be a representative only of the interests of the LGBTQIA+ population.",41.2,48.3,{"idx":43,"utterance_id":44,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":45,"start_s":46,"end_s":47,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},5,"138782","But the deputy has gone far beyond that.",49.24,50.7,8,{"idx":50,"utterance_id":51,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":52,"start_s":53,"end_s":54,"word_count":55,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":57,"target_id":58,"target_proposition":59,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":62,"indexable":63},6,"138783","She is the author of the approved bill that creates protection for people experiencing homelessness.",51.1,56.34,18,"emprego-e-assistencia-social","Employment and Social Assistance","833432e9-e382-45d9-82a8-a7849cb532fb","create protection for people experiencing homelessness","neutro_descritivo",0.75,"reports authorship of an approved project without presenting a new 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São Paulo.",102.52,108.4,{"idx":35,"utterance_id":102,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":103,"start_s":104,"end_s":105,"word_count":106,"indexable":14},"138789","The debate will be translated live, in caricatures, by our brilliant Batistão.",108.9,114.14,13,{"idx":106,"utterance_id":108,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":109,"start_s":110,"end_s":111,"word_count":112,"indexable":14},"138790","And you who, anywhere in the world, are watching us can send questions via WhatsApp using the QR Code that appears during the program.",115.46,124.34,26,{"idx":114,"utterance_id":115,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":116,"start_s":117,"end_s":118,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},14,"138791","Let's go.",124.5,125.02,{"idx":70,"utterance_id":120,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":121,"start_s":122,"end_s":123,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},"138792","Deputy, good evening, thank you very much for returning to Roda 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tried to turn into a distraction what was in fact important and a priority for the Women's Commission.",182.82,188.38,{"idx":205,"utterance_id":206,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":207,"start_s":208,"end_s":209,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},30,"138807","Because today we have a spectrum in Brazil that cannot understand some movements.",188.68,194.16,{"idx":211,"utterance_id":212,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":213,"start_s":214,"end_s":215,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},31,"138808","The Commission for the Defense of Women's Rights has serious agendas; it faces a difficult moment in Brazil.",194.48,199.04,{"idx":217,"utterance_id":218,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":219,"start_s":220,"end_s":221,"word_count":130,"topic_slug":222,"topic_label":223,"target_id":224,"target_proposition":225,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":226,"indexable":63},32,"138809","We are facing an epidemic of violence against women in the digital sphere and in the personal 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bodies to report these threats.",851.8,856.26,{"idx":855,"utterance_id":856,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":857,"start_s":858,"end_s":859,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},131,"138908","I'd like to understand a bit how, in these last years of your term, you have perceived the response of institutions to these attacks.",856.78,863.22,{"idx":861,"utterance_id":862,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":863,"start_s":864,"end_s":865,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},132,"138909","Was there omission?",863.32,864.02,{"idx":867,"utterance_id":868,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":869,"start_s":870,"end_s":871,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},133,"138910","Was there improvement?",864.58,865.76,{"idx":873,"utterance_id":874,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":875,"start_s":876,"end_s":877,"word_count":70,"indexable":14},134,"138911","How have you perceived that response, that confrontation of the violence of the attacks against you?",865.84,869.56,{"idx":879,"utterance_id":880,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":881,"start_s":882,"end_s":883,"word_count":82,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":884,"target_proposition":885,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":886,"indexable":63},135,"138912","There is omission, there is omission and there is even, I think, often a certain contempt for a determination made by the STF.",870.02,880.22,"17a61ce1-2787-4650-b30a-213d0932653d","ensure compliance with the decision equating LGBTphobia\u002Ftransphobia to the crime of racism","criticizes judicial omission and calls for the judicial system to comply with the STF's decision.",{"idx":888,"utterance_id":889,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":890,"start_s":891,"end_s":892,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},136,"138913","It would have been important for the STF not to allow some judicial bodies to mock its 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rights.",911.44,916.94,{"idx":912,"utterance_id":913,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":914,"start_s":915,"end_s":916,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},140,"138917","Because we won the right and now we have to fight for it.",917.16,920.5,{"idx":918,"utterance_id":919,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":920,"start_s":921,"end_s":922,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},141,"138918","We have to fight for the right to exercise the right.",920.68,923.1,{"idx":924,"utterance_id":925,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":926,"start_s":927,"end_s":928,"word_count":228,"indexable":14},142,"138919","Because there is a determination that LGBTphobia and transphobia are considered crimes; when we go to some instances, we do not always receive the response we think should be the response in the face of a crime.",923.3,936.26,{"idx":930,"utterance_id":931,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":932,"start_s":933,"end_s":934,"word_count":205,"indexable":14},143,"138920","And I'm not speaking of cases that may admit another interpretation, or cases that leave room to question whether there was, in fact, a crime of transphobia.",936.52,946.86,{"idx":936,"utterance_id":937,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":938,"start_s":939,"end_s":940,"word_count":170,"indexable":14},144,"138921","I'm speaking of serious cases, openly transphobic cases, in which we often have a great difficulty getting the law applied.",947.04,956.72,{"idx":942,"utterance_id":943,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":944,"start_s":945,"end_s":946,"word_count":199,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":884,"target_proposition":885,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":947,"indexable":63},145,"138922","That is why it is so important that there be a statement at some point from the STF, from the CNJ, from the responsible bodies, so that judicial decisions are complied with.",956.96,969.1,"asks for a statement from the STF, CNJ and agencies to ensure compliance with the 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legislature, but it also reverberates in the courts.",991.92,996.84,{"idx":992,"utterance_id":993,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":994,"start_s":995,"end_s":996,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},152,"138929","Now, doutada, you... will agree that we live in a moment when hate speech brings votes.",997.3,1004.26,{"idx":998,"utterance_id":999,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1000,"start_s":1001,"end_s":1002,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},153,"138930","And it brings votes for both sides.",1005.48,1007,{"idx":1004,"utterance_id":1005,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1006,"start_s":1007,"end_s":1008,"word_count":316,"indexable":14},154,"138931","So when you react with statements like that post in which you referred to imbeciles, or, for example, that confrontation you had with Deputy Júlia Zanatta where you told her to hydrate her hair, that kind of thing?",1008.2,1026.4,{"idx":1010,"utterance_id":1011,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1012,"start_s":1013,"end_s":1014,"word_count":164,"indexable":14},155,"138932","Doesn't that also feed, doesn't it give ammunition to those parliamentary figures who are making that hate speech you described in order to win votes?",1026.68,1036.18,{"idx":1016,"utterance_id":1017,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1018,"start_s":1019,"end_s":1020,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},156,"138933","And don't you reinforce that dynamic when you react with such intensity?",1036.2,1043.12,{"idx":1022,"utterance_id":1023,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1024,"start_s":1025,"end_s":1026,"word_count":252,"indexable":14},157,"138934","Look, I don't think I'm feeding it, especially since it was good that you brought up that speech, because when I answered Fábio and spoke of lack of context, I was referring exactly to that speech.",1043.82,1055.14,{"idx":1028,"utterance_id":1029,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1030,"start_s":1031,"end_s":1032,"word_count":193,"indexable":14},158,"138935","how quickly those female parliamentarians and the parliamentarians also took a speech that has nothing to do with it to say that I was calling women imbeciles, etc.",1055.2,1065.08,{"idx":1034,"utterance_id":1035,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1036,"start_s":1037,"end_s":1038,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},159,"138936","That day had been very painful, very difficult, very exhausting, with a flood of death threats and ridicule.",1065.7,1073.26,{"idx":1040,"utterance_id":1041,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1042,"start_s":1043,"end_s":1044,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},160,"138937","nude paintings of me circulating on social media, because those groups did that.",1073.62,1077.92,{"idx":1046,"utterance_id":1047,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1048,"start_s":1049,"end_s":1050,"word_count":245,"indexable":14},161,"138938","And the only statement I made on Twitter—and I said this at the first meeting of the Commission on Women—if I wanted to call any of the ladies imbeciles, I would do it here, inside the Chamber of Deputies.",1078.18,1087.5,{"idx":1052,"utterance_id":1053,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1054,"start_s":1055,"end_s":1056,"word_count":170,"indexable":14},162,"138939","I did that on the internet referring to those hateful red pill groups, those groups that were threatening me, those groups that did the paintings.",1087.76,1094.98,{"idx":1058,"utterance_id":1059,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1060,"start_s":1061,"end_s":1062,"word_count":187,"indexable":14},163,"138940","And I think that often, and it's what I answered just now and will repeat, at that moment it was my reaction to the violence, the barbarity.",1095.22,1102.5,{"idx":1064,"utterance_id":1065,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1066,"start_s":1067,"end_s":1068,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},164,"138941","of the horrors and the absurdity.",1102.88,1104.48,{"idx":1070,"utterance_id":1071,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1072,"start_s":1073,"end_s":1074,"word_count":412,"indexable":14},165,"138942","I don't know if you have already had photos, caricatures of you openly circulating with you naked on social networks, you being a parliamentarian who was just elected to the presidency of the Commission on Women and that being endorsed by serious people, being treated completely frivolously, you being threatened with death, you being exposed.",1104.74,1123.38,{"idx":1076,"utterance_id":1077,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1078,"start_s":1079,"end_s":1080,"word_count":252,"indexable":14},166,"138943","The only reaction I had was irony, mockery; it was the response of saying, if this bothers that odious claque that's in the digital sphere, I'm sorry.",1123.66,1135.1,{"idx":1082,"utterance_id":1083,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1084,"start_s":1085,"end_s":1086,"word_count":187,"indexable":14},167,"138944","I am doing my job, and if transphobes and imbeciles — and I put \"CIS\" in caps lock — never, in any way, to include all people.",1135.34,1143.94,{"idx":1088,"utterance_id":1089,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1090,"start_s":1091,"end_s":1092,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},168,"138945","That was something that was really used, as those hateful people always do, to generate more engagement, to generate more clicks.",1144.1,1152.5,{"idx":1094,"utterance_id":1095,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1096,"start_s":1097,"end_s":1098,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},169,"138946","And it surprised me when it didn't just stay with them.",1152.7,1155.5,{"idx":1100,"utterance_id":1101,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1102,"start_s":1103,"end_s":1104,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},170,"138947","When I saw journalists writing articles trying to legitimize... this so shallow discourse, discourse that to me has no other classification than low and dishonest.",1155.74,1167.28,{"idx":1106,"utterance_id":1107,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1108,"start_s":1109,"end_s":1110,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},171,"138948","Now, it doesn't seem to me that I'm feeding the narrative that they expect me to be feeding.",1167.5,1175.14,{"idx":1112,"utterance_id":1113,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1114,"start_s":1115,"end_s":1116,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},172,"138949","There is nothing there that needs to be 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outrageous things, and if I had had to respond in proportion to what I heard, perhaps the level would have been very vulgar.",1225.1,1253.54,{"idx":1175,"utterance_id":1176,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1177,"start_s":1178,"end_s":1179,"word_count":185,"indexable":14},182,"138959","So, to not stoop to that level, to not be so vulgar, I chose a behavior that to some degree I also should not have used, because we cannot level ourselves down.",1253.78,1263.22,{"idx":1181,"utterance_id":1182,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1183,"start_s":1184,"end_s":1185,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},183,"138960","Is ignoring an option, deputy?",1263.4,1265.64,{"idx":1187,"utterance_id":1188,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1189,"start_s":1190,"end_s":1191,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},184,"138961","Is ignoring provocations an option?",1266,1268.4,{"idx":1193,"utterance_id":1194,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1195,"start_s":1196,"end_s":1197,"word_count":130,"topic_slug":1198,"topic_label":1199,"target_id":1200,"target_proposition":1201,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":1202,"indexable":63},185,"138962","I think sometimes we need to ignore provocations and have thick skin.",1268.5,1273.44,"atuacao-do-senado","Senate Role","41cbb17f-1c98-4926-9e3b-67f28925819c","ignore political provocations and not respond to attacks","says 'em alguns momentos a gente precisa ignorar as provocações' as a strategy",{"idx":1204,"utterance_id":1205,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1206,"start_s":1207,"end_s":1208,"word_count":35,"topic_slug":1198,"topic_label":1199,"target_id":1200,"target_proposition":1201,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":1209,"indexable":63},186,"138963","keep a cool head and understand, look, maybe it's not strategic to enter that game.",1274.5,1278.06,"states 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Do you understand that this kind of discourse is a normalization of transphobia in the public debate, because there are these discourses that are clearly transphobic, clearly offensive, but there is also a normalization and a use in public debate of this type of discourse focused on material reality, biological sex, in that sense, and often using categories even from the current UN rapporteur on women?",1319.66,1361.04,{"idx":1276,"utterance_id":1277,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1278,"start_s":1279,"end_s":1280,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},197,"138974","Do you understand that this discourse is a normalization of transphobia?",1361.66,1364.84,{"idx":1282,"utterance_id":1283,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1284,"start_s":1285,"end_s":1286,"word_count":28,"indexable":14},198,"138975","How do you see it, often even because you have invoked the courts as a strategy in these cases?",1364.98,1370.06,{"idx":1288,"utterance_id":1289,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1290,"start_s":1291,"end_s":1292,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":1293,"target_proposition":1294,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":75,"rationale":1295,"indexable":14},199,"138976","It is completely a normalization of transphobia, Tiago.",1370.5,1373.6,"cc8c3e93-100f-480c-8357-6103c44ac093","combat transphobia","states that the discourse normalizes transphobia without proposing concrete measures",{"idx":1297,"utterance_id":1298,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1299,"start_s":1300,"end_s":1301,"word_count":205,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":1302,"target_proposition":1303,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":75,"rationale":1304,"indexable":14},200,"138977","People think transphobia is only killing, only assaulting, only hitting a trans person on the street, and many of these people already feel embarrassed by this type of discourse.",1373.92,1385.84,"67d36989-61b4-4190-9acb-c9c619a04c8b","expand public recognition of non-physical forms of transphobia","explains that transphobia is not limited to physical aggression",{"idx":1306,"utterance_id":1307,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1308,"start_s":1309,"end_s":1310,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":1311,"target_proposition":1312,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":75,"rationale":1313,"indexable":14},201,"138978","So how are we legitimizing hatred and inequality toward these groups if not by warlike force, if not by the force of violence?",1386.16,1394.14,"ec936da5-b028-4721-848c-d6e9bd5efe3a","avoid legitimizing hatred and inequality against trans people","questions how discourses legitimize hatred, without calling for specific action",{"idx":1315,"utterance_id":1316,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1317,"start_s":1318,"end_s":1319,"word_count":430,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":1320,"target_proposition":1321,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":1322,"indexable":63},202,"138979","We end up saying that these people are less worthy of their own identity, that they cannot belong to certain groups, that they cannot claim certain levels of participation, such as, for example, in the presidency of the women's commission, and they do this with very simplistic speeches, with speeches that are violent, with speeches that were even discarded in other historical periods.",1394.36,1417.02,"d58199ca-540a-415d-a955-c2158063beaf","defend and guarantee the civil rights of the LGBTQIA+ population","criticizes the exclusion of trans women from spaces, defending political inclusion",{"idx":1324,"utterance_id":1325,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1326,"start_s":1327,"end_s":1328,"word_count":164,"topic_slug":1329,"topic_label":1330,"target_id":1331,"target_proposition":1332,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":75,"rationale":1333,"indexable":14},203,"138980","Eugenics was biological to place the Black population in an inferior condition, to say that the Black population... 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from the university space, did not stand up and raise their voices.",1465.78,1481.04,{"idx":1382,"utterance_id":1383,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1384,"start_s":1385,"end_s":1386,"word_count":114,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":1387,"target_proposition":1388,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1389,"rationale":1390,"indexable":63},211,"138988","Now they use this biological resource to legitimize, without any shadow of doubt, a hatred.",1481.26,1488.02,"1b808c69-a0c6-4bdf-a0ba-7f92f001d7ce","combat violence and hate against the LGBTQIA+ population",0.87,"says that use of biology legitimizes hatred, indicating the need to combat it",{"idx":1392,"utterance_id":1393,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1394,"start_s":1395,"end_s":1396,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},212,"138989","Because then it's not only a genuine 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uterus.",1517.1,1520,{"idx":1452,"utterance_id":1453,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1454,"start_s":1455,"end_s":1456,"word_count":106,"indexable":14},222,"138999","who will not menstruate, who will have ambiguous genitalia, in the case of intersex people.",1520.18,1524.34,{"idx":1458,"utterance_id":1459,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1460,"start_s":1461,"end_s":1462,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},223,"139000","And how do we, within this simplistic discourse, treat those women?",1524.56,1528.4,{"idx":1464,"utterance_id":1465,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1466,"start_s":1467,"end_s":1468,"word_count":106,"topic_slug":222,"topic_label":223,"target_id":1469,"target_proposition":1470,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":1471,"indexable":63},224,"139001","How do we even incorporate her into the public policy debate?",1528.6,1532.36,"1e244c80-8d78-4ca1-85c2-115920e980f4","include trans and intersex women in public gender policies","asks how to incorporate these women into public policies, advocating inclusion",{"idx":1473,"utterance_id":1474,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1475,"start_s":1476,"end_s":1477,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},225,"139002","So, there is no doubt that we are seeing an instrumentalization of science, once again, to justify the hate discourse.",1532.6,1540.08,{"idx":1479,"utterance_id":1480,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1481,"start_s":1482,"end_s":1483,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},226,"139003","And then they bring the biological discourse and, in sequence, a series of completely violent and atrocious statements.",1540.28,1545.92,{"idx":1485,"utterance_id":1486,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1487,"start_s":1488,"end_s":1489,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},227,"139004","I'll take the conclusion of this line of reasoning.",1546.18,1549.74,{"idx":1491,"utterance_id":1492,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1493,"start_s":1494,"end_s":1495,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},228,"139005","to make a short break.",1550.14,1551.34,{"idx":1497,"utterance_id":1498,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1499,"start_s":1500,"end_s":1501,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},229,"139006","Roda Viva returns in a moment with Erika Hilton.",1551.4,1553.88,{"idx":1503,"utterance_id":1504,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1505,"start_s":1506,"end_s":1507,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},230,"139007","Be right back.",1553.9,1554.18,{"idx":1509,"utterance_id":1510,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1511,"start_s":1512,"end_s":1513,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},231,"139008","Sustainability that generates positive 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many schools today, Manoel?",1582,1583.36,{"idx":1538,"utterance_id":1539,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1540,"start_s":1541,"end_s":1542,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},235,"139012","Hundreds, Isabelinha.",1583.54,1585.02,{"idx":1544,"utterance_id":1545,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1546,"start_s":1547,"end_s":1548,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":1528,"target_proposition":1529,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":1549,"indexable":63},236,"139013","Rural, indigenous and quilombola schools connected from north to south.",1585.46,1589.52,"enumerates the program's reach including rural, indigenous, and quilombola schools",{"idx":1551,"utterance_id":1552,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1553,"start_s":1554,"end_s":1555,"word_count":130,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":1528,"target_proposition":1529,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":1556,"indexable":63},237,"139014","A legion of technicians working to bring broadband to millions of students across Brazil.",1590,1595.06,"mentions technicians working to bring broadband to millions of students",{"idx":1558,"utterance_id":1559,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1560,"start_s":1561,"end_s":1562,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},238,"139015","And at the speed of... Aprender Conectado.",1595.6,1599.22,{"idx":1564,"utterance_id":1565,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1566,"start_s":1567,"end_s":1568,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},239,"139016","A good sign for education.",1599.42,1600.62,{"idx":1570,"utterance_id":1571,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1572,"start_s":1573,"end_s":1574,"word_count":28,"indexable":14},240,"139017","Alright, quickly, we're back with federal deputy Erika Hilton at the center of Roda Viva.",1618.68,1623.5,{"idx":1576,"utterance_id":1577,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1578,"start_s":1579,"end_s":1580,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},241,"139018","Now it's filmmaker Lu Maza's turn to ask her question.",1623.56,1626.82,{"idx":1582,"utterance_id":1583,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1584,"start_s":1585,"end_s":1586,"word_count":164,"indexable":14},242,"139019","Deputy, you have a diverse agenda, but in this first block we had on the program, everything revolved around the question of your identity.",1627.28,1635.76,{"idx":1588,"utterance_id":1589,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1590,"start_s":1591,"end_s":1592,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},243,"139020","the fact that you are a trans woman.",1636.1,1637.86,{"idx":1594,"utterance_id":1595,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1596,"start_s":1597,"end_s":1598,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},244,"139021","It seems to me that the attacks and violence you suffer are mainly because of that social marker you carry.",1638.38,1645.84,{"idx":1600,"utterance_id":1601,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1602,"start_s":1603,"end_s":1604,"word_count":484,"indexable":14},245,"139022","Besides the pseudo-biological discourse that aims at our exclusion from society, how do you see the possibility of dialoguing with a country that is still often moralistic, and associated with an understanding, a comprehension... of religiosity, which often excludes us, dehumanizes us and therefore separates us from all discussions, including very urgent discussions, such as labor discussions and the end of the 6x1 schedule that you advocate?",1646.8,1679.34,{"idx":1606,"utterance_id":1607,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1608,"start_s":1609,"end_s":1610,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},246,"139023","I think first we need to lament.",1680.14,1682.38,{"idx":1612,"utterance_id":1613,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1614,"start_s":1615,"end_s":1616,"word_count":217,"indexable":14},247,"139024","how much our skin color, our gender, comes before our work, before the proposals we defend, before what we believe.",1682.94,1691.76,{"idx":1618,"utterance_id":1619,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1620,"start_s":1621,"end_s":1622,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},248,"139025","And I think it will be difficult to break away from that 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action",{"idx":1679,"utterance_id":1680,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1681,"start_s":1682,"end_s":1683,"word_count":164,"topic_slug":222,"topic_label":223,"target_id":1684,"target_proposition":1685,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":1686,"indexable":63},257,"139034","from their own aggressors, the Maria da Penha law, a series, a series of important debates on protecting women have been completely suffocated.",1769.08,1777.56,"a20d3d57-4343-4fe5-b9ca-7a5bd9939706","resume and prioritize debates and policies to protect women","states that debates were stifled, advocating their resumption",{"idx":1688,"utterance_id":1689,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1690,"start_s":1691,"end_s":1692,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},258,"139035","This is part of a strategy.",1777.58,1778.82,{"idx":1694,"utterance_id":1695,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1696,"start_s":1697,"end_s":1698,"word_count":287,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":1701,"target_proposition":1702,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":1703,"indexable":63},259,"139036","Now, I think that one way we will need to find, Lumasa, to block, to break this blockade, especially when it is tied to the religious debate, is to make this important part of society awaken from the hands of these pimps of faith.",1779.22,1796.42,"religiao-e-politica","Religion and Politics","058a98e5-f543-4926-a6e5-35f33891f8c5","disempower religious leaders who exploit faith for political and financial gain","proposes to 'tirar das mãos destes cafetões da fé' to break the religious blockade",{"idx":1705,"utterance_id":1706,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1707,"start_s":1708,"end_s":1709,"word_count":205,"indexable":14},260,"139037","Because the difference between a pastor, a religious leader, and a pimp of faith is the one who wants to profit from people's hope, fear, and religiosity.",1797.12,1806.24,{"idx":1711,"utterance_id":1712,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1713,"start_s":1714,"end_s":1715,"word_count":187,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":1716,"target_proposition":1717,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":1718,"indexable":63},261,"139038","We will need to make them understand that the gospel... that Christ does not want people to live at war and be hated.",1806.66,1815.56,"bd1f2b15-182c-4861-84a1-7149279b7b05","dialogue with Christian movements","argues to show that the gospel does not preach hatred, proposing dialogue with the faithful",{"idx":1720,"utterance_id":1721,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1722,"start_s":1723,"end_s":1724,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},262,"139039","This is a fundamentalist narrative.",1815.8,1817.56,{"idx":1726,"utterance_id":1727,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1728,"start_s":1729,"end_s":1730,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},263,"139040","This is a narrative of those people who want to continue enriching their own families, building fortunes on top of faith.",1817.86,1824.1,{"idx":1732,"utterance_id":1733,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1734,"start_s":1735,"end_s":1736,"word_count":82,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":1716,"target_proposition":1717,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":1737,"indexable":63},264,"139041","We will have to wake that portion of the population from this sleep to understand, look, if Jesus returned tomorrow, he would sit with us.",1824.42,1832.6,"proposes to 'despertar' a portion of the population and engage in religious dialogue",{"idx":1739,"utterance_id":1740,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1741,"start_s":1742,"end_s":1743,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},265,"139042","If Jesus returned tomorrow, he would ask those who stone us to look at their own sins.",1832.92,1839.3,{"idx":1745,"utterance_id":1746,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1747,"start_s":1748,"end_s":1749,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},266,"139043","That is not Christian teaching.",1839.54,1840.96,{"idx":1751,"utterance_id":1752,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1753,"start_s":1754,"end_s":1755,"word_count":164,"indexable":14},267,"139044","If it is not God's will, leave this place, look to your brother, treat your brother as yourself.",1841.3,1848.26,{"idx":1757,"utterance_id":1758,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1759,"start_s":1760,"end_s":1761,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},268,"139045","I think that when we awaken and pull from the hands of those pimps of faith, who call themselves pastors, who call themselves religious leaders, but are filling themselves.",1848.52,1858.42,{"idx":1763,"utterance_id":1764,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1765,"start_s":1766,"end_s":1767,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},269,"139046","We saw, for example, in the case of Banco Master, a church that had a fintech, a church that has a bank.",1858.62,1866.02,{"idx":1769,"utterance_id":1770,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1771,"start_s":1772,"end_s":1773,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},270,"139047","This already translates much of what my interpretation is.",1866.66,1869.74,{"idx":1775,"utterance_id":1776,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1777,"start_s":1778,"end_s":1779,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},271,"139048","about pimps of faith.",1870.06,1870.98,{"idx":1781,"utterance_id":1782,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1783,"start_s":1784,"end_s":1785,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},272,"139049","But excuse me, did you want to make another remark?",1871.16,1873.64,{"idx":1787,"utterance_id":1788,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1789,"start_s":1790,"end_s":1791,"word_count":193,"indexable":14},273,"139050","No, I just wanted to add how this hatred tends to be endorsed in our history and over time we have seen inclusion happen for various minorities.",1873.68,1884.66,{"idx":1793,"utterance_id":1794,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1795,"start_s":1796,"end_s":1797,"word_count":211,"indexable":14},274,"139051","The Black minority, in some ways people with disabilities — it is obvious that [their situation is] far short of our needs, very, very far short of indigenous peoples', but we have a moral sense that it is wrong.",1885.78,1897.46,{"idx":1799,"utterance_id":1800,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1801,"start_s":1802,"end_s":1803,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},275,"139052","the attack on those people.",1897.8,1898.82,{"idx":1805,"utterance_id":1806,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1807,"start_s":1808,"end_s":1809,"word_count":185,"indexable":14},276,"139053","However, the attack, the violence, including the murder of trans people, is often agreed with, applauded by part of that society, using precisely arguments often pseudo-biological or pseudo-religious to justify this aggression against us.",1899.18,1916,{"idx":279,"utterance_id":1811,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1812,"start_s":1813,"end_s":1814,"word_count":406,"indexable":14},"139054","And then how do you believe we can bring this progress, our inclusion, our presence, our discourse and transcend... our adjective as trans, without being interpreted in our urgency as crazy, nervous women who cannot dialogue, when, in fact, on the other side, the hatred... is pointed at our face.",1916.44,1944.2,{"idx":1816,"utterance_id":1817,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1818,"start_s":1819,"end_s":1820,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},278,"139055","Perhaps I'm not the best person to answer you.",1944.56,1947.24,{"idx":1822,"utterance_id":1823,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1824,"start_s":1825,"end_s":1826,"word_count":141,"indexable":14},279,"139056","how not to be framed in that place, given that all the time they keep trying to frame me in that place.",1947.58,1953.84,{"idx":1828,"utterance_id":1829,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1830,"start_s":1831,"end_s":1832,"word_count":70,"indexable":14},280,"139057","And when I look, I think, people, but I am completely distant from all of that.",1953.9,1957.7,{"idx":1834,"utterance_id":1835,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1836,"start_s":1837,"end_s":1838,"word_count":84,"topic_slug":1198,"topic_label":1199,"target_id":1839,"target_proposition":1840,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":1841,"indexable":63},281,"139058","I have always sought dialogue, including inside the parliament.",1957.74,1960.56,"4dcb1aed-c823-4690-b696-d1127ac30a98","maintain dialogue with different groups and legislators","states 'sempre busquei o diálogo' as a parliamentary practice",{"idx":1843,"utterance_id":1844,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1845,"start_s":1846,"end_s":1847,"word_count":185,"topic_slug":1198,"topic_label":1199,"target_id":1839,"target_proposition":1840,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1240,"rationale":1848,"indexable":63},282,"139059","If you ask the deputies, or when I was a city councilor, I always had great dialogue with everyone; I have great dialogue with society, I strive to have great dialogue with the populations.",1960.92,1971.18,"claims a track record of dialogue with deputies and society",{"idx":1850,"utterance_id":1851,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1852,"start_s":1853,"end_s":1854,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},283,"139060","the evangelical layers of society, because I think first we need to demystify.",1971.88,1977.32,{"idx":1856,"utterance_id":1857,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1858,"start_s":1859,"end_s":1860,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},284,"139061","There is a mystification of what these identities are.",1977.68,1980.56,{"idx":1862,"utterance_id":1863,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1864,"start_s":1865,"end_s":1866,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},285,"139062","It's as if these identities by themselves represented the destruction of the family, the destruction of the status quo.",1980.86,1987.14,{"idx":1868,"utterance_id":1869,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1870,"start_s":1871,"end_s":1872,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},286,"139063","And they take advantage of this moral panic.",1987.28,1989.2,{"idx":1874,"utterance_id":1875,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1876,"start_s":1877,"end_s":1878,"word_count":187,"indexable":14},287,"139064","It's as if one said, from the moment Deputy Erika Hilton has some level of dignity, everyone will lose, everyone will be finished.",1989.48,1996.54,{"idx":1880,"utterance_id":1881,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1882,"start_s":1883,"end_s":1884,"word_count":28,"indexable":14},288,"139065","What we understand by society, what we understand by family, my God!",1996.6,2000.06,{"idx":1886,"utterance_id":1887,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1888,"start_s":1889,"end_s":1890,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},289,"139066","what we understand by bathroom will no longer exist.",2000.14,2003.5,{"idx":1892,"utterance_id":1893,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1894,"start_s":1895,"end_s":1896,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},290,"139067","And this generates, at a level of inequality and an actual unevenness of knowledge among people, a fear, a panic.",2003.8,2012.18,{"idx":1898,"utterance_id":1899,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1900,"start_s":1901,"end_s":1902,"word_count":130,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":1903,"target_proposition":1904,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":1905,"indexable":63},291,"139068","And I think one of the most important and powerful things we can do is to be present.",2012.42,2016.8,"7c3430e9-4ae0-4af6-9d4c-a37966755f20","ensure the presence of trans people in public and political spaces","argues that 'estar' is a strategy for visibility and social change",{"idx":1907,"utterance_id":1908,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1909,"start_s":1910,"end_s":1911,"word_count":70,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":1903,"target_proposition":1904,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1912,"rationale":1913,"indexable":63},292,"139069","When I make myself available to take on this fight, it is because I want to be there.",2017.18,2021.96,0.82,"makes herself available to confront violence and stay visible",{"idx":1915,"utterance_id":1916,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1917,"start_s":1918,"end_s":1919,"word_count":322,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":1903,"target_proposition":1904,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":960,"rationale":1920,"indexable":63},293,"139070","I know what I will face, I know the violences that will greet me in that space, but I need to be seen, I need to be heard, I need to let my narrative about myself also be told, not only the vision of my tormentors.",2022.38,2035.6,"states the need to be seen and heard to tell her narrative",{"idx":1922,"utterance_id":1923,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1924,"start_s":1925,"end_s":1926,"word_count":234,"topic_slug":1927,"topic_label":1928,"target_id":1929,"target_proposition":1930,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1354,"rationale":1931,"indexable":63},294,"139071","And we need to stop, as the left, or as the LGBT community, or as any group, thinking that we must be on one side and that evangelicals, Catholics, Christians must be on the other.",2035.84,2047.02,"politica","Politics","522aa55a-13b5-4a30-9a0f-1df5f572e518","promote dialogue and build bridges between progressive movements and religious groups","asks to stop polarization between the left and evangelicals, advocating rapprochement.",{"idx":1933,"utterance_id":1934,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1935,"start_s":1936,"end_s":1937,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},295,"139072","This is a war we did not create.",2047.26,2048.96,{"idx":1939,"utterance_id":1940,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1941,"start_s":1942,"end_s":1943,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":1927,"topic_label":1928,"target_id":1929,"target_proposition":1930,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1240,"rationale":1944,"indexable":63},296,"139073","We want to walk alongside everyone.",2049.18,2051,"declares wanting to 'andar ao lado de todo mundo', advocating social bridges.",{"idx":1946,"utterance_id":1947,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1948,"start_s":1949,"end_s":1950,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},297,"139074","to make the words and teachings of Jesus Christ prevail.",2051.8,2054.58,{"idx":1952,"utterance_id":1953,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1954,"start_s":1955,"end_s":1956,"word_count":70,"indexable":14},298,"139075","I grew up in an evangelical household and I saw the gospel destroy my family.",2054.88,2059.14,{"idx":1958,"utterance_id":1959,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1960,"start_s":1961,"end_s":1962,"word_count":70,"indexable":14},299,"139076","I saw the pimps of faith usurping the gospel, or rather, destroy my family.",2059.44,2064.54,{"idx":1964,"utterance_id":1965,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1966,"start_s":1967,"end_s":1968,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},300,"139077","And when my mother was able to truly connect with the truth of God, with her faith, everything passed.",2064.78,2071.24,{"idx":1970,"utterance_id":1971,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1972,"start_s":1973,"end_s":1974,"word_count":185,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":1716,"target_proposition":1717,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1912,"rationale":1975,"indexable":63},301,"139078","So I think we need to go there and speak with the older women, go speak with people and say, look, what this man is telling you is not what is written.",2071.5,2080.78,"proposes speaking directly with elderly women to demystify mistaken teachings.",{"idx":1977,"utterance_id":1978,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1979,"start_s":1980,"end_s":1981,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},302,"139079","in the Gospel.",2080.8,2081.4,{"idx":1983,"utterance_id":1984,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1985,"start_s":1986,"end_s":1987,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},303,"139080","It is not the teachings of Christ.",2081.62,2083.5,{"idx":1989,"utterance_id":1990,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1991,"start_s":1992,"end_s":1993,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},304,"139081","Christ taught us to love one another as I have loved you.",2083.72,2086.66,{"idx":1995,"utterance_id":1996,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1997,"start_s":1998,"end_s":1999,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},305,"139082","Does Jesus Christ really want to see this wave of death against trans people?",2086.92,2091.74,{"idx":2001,"utterance_id":2002,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2003,"start_s":2004,"end_s":2005,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},306,"139083","Trans people having their hearts torn out, of all people he who suffered such a barbaric death as we witnessed.",2091.92,2097.38,{"idx":2007,"utterance_id":2008,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2009,"start_s":2010,"end_s":2011,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":1716,"target_proposition":1717,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1240,"rationale":2012,"indexable":63},307,"139084","I think we need to make that kind of connection.",2097.7,2100.96,"advocates 'fazer esse tipo de conexão' between faith and welcoming.",{"idx":2014,"utterance_id":2015,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2016,"start_s":2017,"end_s":2018,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":371,"topic_label":372,"target_id":2019,"target_proposition":2020,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":2021,"indexable":63},308,"139085","Because our presence with that speech and that recovery will make people and society increasingly understand the naturalness of trans identity.",2100.98,2109.34,"162261ad-2c2c-4af2-a74c-3e63de721863","amplify the presence and visibility of trans people in public debate","argues that presence and speech normalize trans identity.",{"idx":2023,"utterance_id":2024,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2025,"start_s":2026,"end_s":2027,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},309,"139086","I just want to put forward audience questions that go exactly in the direction of what you were saying now.",2111.14,2117,{"idx":2029,"utterance_id":2030,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2031,"start_s":2032,"end_s":2033,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},310,"139087","Skipping, moving beyond, extrapolating the more immediate agenda that some sectors want to impose.",2118.32,2125.88,{"idx":2035,"utterance_id":2036,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2037,"start_s":2038,"end_s":2039,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},311,"139088","Question from Pedro Igor Pimentel, from Kixaramobim, in Ceará.",2126.9,2130.54,{"idx":2041,"utterance_id":2042,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2043,"start_s":2044,"end_s":2045,"word_count":164,"indexable":14},312,"139089","What is the role of culture as public policy in strengthening identities in elections and why does this bother the far right so much?",2131.4,2139.7,{"idx":2047,"utterance_id":2048,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2049,"start_s":2050,"end_s":2051,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},313,"139090","And I add another question from Luciana Basile, from São Paulo.",2139.78,2144.86,{"idx":2053,"utterance_id":2054,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2055,"start_s":2056,"end_s":2057,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},314,"139091","I am a teacher; I experience daily the challenges of civic education in schools.",2146.14,2150.54,{"idx":2059,"utterance_id":2060,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2061,"start_s":2062,"end_s":2063,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},315,"139092","In your view, what is the role of education in combating social inequalities and in building a more inclusive society?",2150.98,2157.86,{"idx":2065,"utterance_id":2066,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2067,"start_s":2068,"end_s":2069,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},316,"139093","And what concrete public policies could strengthen this process inside the classroom?",2158.24,2163.26,{"idx":2071,"utterance_id":2072,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2073,"start_s":2074,"end_s":2075,"word_count":211,"topic_slug":2076,"topic_label":2077,"target_id":2078,"target_proposition":2079,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":2080,"indexable":63},317,"139094","It's very good when we have two questions that unite culture and education, which are, most of the time, the first points that fascist authoritarian governments... insist on attacking.",2163.7,2175.06,"cultura","Culture","f602cc95-e4b5-4c62-bf4b-1a4ab7942601","protect and strengthen cultural and educational policies against authoritarian attacks","states that culture and education are targets of authoritarian governments and must be defended.",{"idx":2082,"utterance_id":2083,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2084,"start_s":2085,"end_s":2086,"word_count":187,"topic_slug":2076,"topic_label":2077,"target_id":2087,"target_proposition":2088,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":2089,"indexable":63},318,"139095","Culture rescues our own identity, our own values, the paths we must trace, the paths that have already been traced, opening horizons.",2175.44,2183.68,"d40eb4e7-03b0-4624-9399-aa5cf81739ae","promote public cultural policies to strengthen identity and civic participation","defends the role of culture in forming conscious voters and social identity.",{"idx":2091,"utterance_id":2092,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2093,"start_s":2094,"end_s":2095,"word_count":250,"indexable":14},319,"139096","Culture often breaks with those segmented boxes with which we are introduced and allows us to relate to, to incorporate a variety of things, ideas, values and people that often strengthen our own identity.",2183.7,2198.88,{"idx":2097,"utterance_id":2098,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2099,"start_s":2100,"end_s":2101,"word_count":466,"indexable":14},320,"139097","And this has a gigantic power, because people who manage to connect with their history, with their environment, with the past, to design the future, go to an election—which is what the question refers to—with much more consciousness, aware of what that future is, of which stories should be retold, of which values should be preserved.",2199.1,2220.48,{"idx":2103,"utterance_id":2104,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2105,"start_s":2106,"end_s":2107,"word_count":316,"indexable":14},321,"139098","Culture is an important pillar because, besides strengthening this whole relationship with who we are, who we were and where we are going, it also allows us to look at various stages of history and say, I don't want this anymore, I don't want to repeat this.",2220.72,2237.7,{"idx":2109,"utterance_id":2110,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2111,"start_s":2112,"end_s":2113,"word_count":250,"indexable":14},322,"139099","And it often does this with lightness: through music, through cinema, through theater, through a series of things that are pillars that are always attacked.",2237.9,2249.48,{"idx":2115,"utterance_id":2116,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2117,"start_s":2118,"end_s":2119,"word_count":65,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":2120,"target_proposition":2121,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":2122,"indexable":14},323,"139100","And not surprisingly, education.",2249.68,2251.56,"19a7dcd0-a2a1-4b08-8f67-e8f83b3a268c","encourage development of critical awareness, autonomy, and student leadership","advocates critical education that forms citizens, citing Paulo Freire.",{"idx":2124,"utterance_id":2125,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2126,"start_s":2127,"end_s":2128,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},324,"139101","Education changes people.",2251.9,2254.08,{"idx":2130,"utterance_id":2131,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2132,"start_s":2133,"end_s":2134,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},325,"139102","People change the world, as Paulo Freire taught us.",2254.34,2257.16,{"idx":2136,"utterance_id":2137,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2138,"start_s":2139,"end_s":2140,"word_count":106,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":2141,"target_proposition":2142,"stance":2143,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":2144,"indexable":63},326,"139103","Education makes and transforms us into an increasingly conscious pillar.",2257.72,2262.26,"8d71b800-efc7-4045-8895-4f0ea4f048b0","implement the Escola sem Partido policy (restrictions on political debate in schools)","contra","declares 'Não essa ideia de escola sem partido', positioning themselves against that proposal.",{"idx":2146,"utterance_id":2147,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2148,"start_s":2149,"end_s":2150,"word_count":472,"indexable":14},327,"139104","Not people who go to the classroom to learn to read, write and work in a robotic way, like little soldiers of a capitalist organization to serve as cheap labor, but as critical people, conscious of their place in the world, of their role in the world, of the duties of the legislators they elect, of the obligations they should ... education is our main pillar.",2262.58,2287.1,{"idx":2152,"utterance_id":2153,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2154,"start_s":2155,"end_s":2156,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},328,"139105","And I think one of the most important things is, first, valuing education professionals.",2287.34,2292.1,{"idx":2158,"utterance_id":2159,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2160,"start_s":2161,"end_s":2162,"word_count":193,"indexable":14},329,"139106","There can be no education without valuing educators, teachers, daycare workers, cafeteria staff, the people who make the school function.",2292.42,2301.78,{"idx":2164,"utterance_id":2165,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2166,"start_s":2167,"end_s":2168,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},330,"139107","And secondly, an education that is critical, an education that makes us reflect, an education that makes us think.",2302,2308.62,{"idx":2170,"utterance_id":2171,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2172,"start_s":2173,"end_s":2174,"word_count":610,"indexable":14},331,"139108","Not this idea of a 'school without a party', for example, which is... actually has a party—the party of making people completely castrated from any public, political discussion, so that people do not have a global vision—but rather that people can discuss everything, that the school allows the student, the person, the learner there to leave not just as a trained person but as a citizen of the world, someone who will contribute to society, a person with a critical, analytical sense.",2308.9,2339.62,{"idx":2176,"utterance_id":2177,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2178,"start_s":2179,"end_s":2180,"word_count":130,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":2181,"target_proposition":2182,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":2183,"indexable":63},332,"139109","Do you have a concrete proposal for the classroom, as Professor Luciana said here?",2339.64,2344.54,"9ef0524b-68ff-4e13-a647-952b267a38ac","value and train teachers with better pay and training","explicitly advocates valuing and better remuneration for educators.",{"idx":2185,"utterance_id":2186,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2187,"start_s":2188,"end_s":2189,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":2181,"target_proposition":2182,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":960,"rationale":2190,"indexable":63},333,"139110","We work a lot on this issue of valuing professionals and I think this is an extremely relevant matter.",2344.98,2352.26,"lists actions such as valuing and bringing better remuneration to the teaching profession.",{"idx":2192,"utterance_id":2193,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2194,"start_s":2195,"end_s":2196,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},334,"139111","Valuing professionals, bringing better remuneration, often removing professionals who lived in the shadows in teaching so that they have a valued, respected category.",2352.56,2363.34,{"idx":2198,"utterance_id":2199,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2200,"start_s":2201,"end_s":2202,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},335,"139112","These are projects in which we are very active.",2363.58,2366.38,{"idx":2204,"utterance_id":2205,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2206,"start_s":2207,"end_s":2208,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":2209,"target_proposition":2210,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":2211,"indexable":63},336,"139113","Encouraging reading is a very important thing.",2366.56,2368.84,"a01ccc7c-092d-4663-9e56-aa20d3e3822d","expand programs to encourage children's reading","states that 'incentivar a leitura é muito importante' as an educational policy.",{"idx":2213,"utterance_id":2214,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2215,"start_s":2216,"end_s":2217,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},337,"139114","People stopped reading.",2368.86,2369.98,{"idx":2219,"utterance_id":2220,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2221,"start_s":2222,"end_s":2223,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},338,"139115","People don't read anymore.",2370.36,2371.48,{"idx":2225,"utterance_id":2226,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2227,"start_s":2228,"end_s":2229,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},339,"139116","Schools, students can no longer make use of reading, and reading is very important.",2371.52,2377.66,{"idx":2231,"utterance_id":2232,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2233,"start_s":2234,"end_s":2235,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},340,"139117","It has a direct relationship with culture, because the book, literature, fiction, the novel, etc.",2377.82,2382.22,{"idx":2237,"utterance_id":2238,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2239,"start_s":2240,"end_s":2241,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},341,"139118","But it also has an important role in people's development.",2382.82,2387.56,{"idx":2243,"utterance_id":2244,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2245,"start_s":2246,"end_s":2247,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},342,"139119","People ask, Deputy, why do you speak so well?",2387.74,2390.3,{"idx":2249,"utterance_id":2250,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2251,"start_s":2252,"end_s":2253,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},343,"139120","I think because I grew up.",2390.62,2391.56,{"idx":2255,"utterance_id":2256,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2257,"start_s":2258,"end_s":2259,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},344,"139121","in an evangelical home, attending church services, but obviously because I read, because I began to read Machado de Assis.",2391.96,2397.68,{"idx":2261,"utterance_id":2262,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2263,"start_s":2264,"end_s":2265,"word_count":574,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":2181,"target_proposition":2182,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":2266,"indexable":63},345,"139122","It was the first book I read, then I went on to read Jorge Uol, so I think these proposals we are working on, but there is a very great difficulty when we arrive, for example, in a congress that until recently had as chair of the education committee a deputy who represents nothing and presented nothing for education, and this did not shock so much, this did not bother society, a deputy who even persecuted students, minors, in bathrooms inside the schools he presided over in the Education Committee.",2397.7,2426.94,"criticizes the commission president and calls for valuing education.",{"idx":2268,"utterance_id":2269,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2270,"start_s":2271,"end_s":2272,"word_count":217,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":2181,"target_proposition":2182,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":960,"rationale":2273,"indexable":63},346,"139123","There is a certain disdain for the education agenda within the National Congress and among other agendas, and we have to keep rowing against the tide to say that it is extremely important to value.",2427.26,2438,"denounces 'desprezo' for the agenda and argues for valuing education.",{"idx":2275,"utterance_id":2276,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2277,"start_s":2278,"end_s":2279,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":2181,"target_proposition":2182,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":2280,"rationale":2281,"indexable":63},347,"139124","these professionals, to value education as an important and fundamental tool for transforming people who will consequently transform society.",2438.28,2447.56,0.92,"explicitly states 'valorizar esses profissionais' as necessary.",{"idx":2283,"utterance_id":2284,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2285,"start_s":2286,"end_s":2287,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},348,"139125","Deputy, I wanted to press a bit more on this task of religious identity.",2447.74,2451.58,{"idx":2289,"utterance_id":2290,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2291,"start_s":2292,"end_s":2293,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},349,"139126","You have already said that you were an evangelical leader, speaking in tongues, that gift common in Pentecostal churches.",2452.1,2457.22,{"idx":2295,"utterance_id":2296,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2297,"start_s":2298,"end_s":2299,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},350,"139127","I wanted to know what your relationship with faith is today and... why does the left have such a limited entry into this field?",2457.84,2464.54,{"idx":2301,"utterance_id":2302,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2303,"start_s":2304,"end_s":2305,"word_count":211,"indexable":14},351,"139128","You spoke of pimps of faith, but is there also a resistance within the field itself to treating believers as if they were a backward step of civilization?",2464.58,2474.7,{"idx":2307,"utterance_id":2308,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2309,"start_s":2310,"end_s":2311,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},352,"139129","I don't agree, Ana, with that statement.",2475.14,2477.36,{"idx":2313,"utterance_id":2314,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2315,"start_s":2316,"end_s":2317,"word_count":245,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":1716,"target_proposition":1717,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":75,"rationale":2318,"indexable":14},353,"139130","We saw, for example, President Lula making some proposals and projects there, the very 'gospel day' for the religious and evangelical population, which has an importance, bringing that sector to dialogue, etc.",2477.68,2493.12,"cites government initiatives (Gospel Day) as an example of dialogue.",{"idx":2320,"utterance_id":2321,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2322,"start_s":2323,"end_s":2324,"word_count":263,"indexable":14},354,"139131","I think there is a certain wing, and this is what I was answering Lu, that perhaps due to the violence with which these populations are often treated, these groups being treated, they end up creating a certain shock, a certain distancing.",2493.44,2509.2,{"idx":2326,"utterance_id":2327,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2328,"start_s":2329,"end_s":2330,"word_count":406,"topic_slug":980,"topic_label":981,"target_id":2331,"target_proposition":2332,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":2333,"indexable":63},355,"139132","And I think it's natural, I think it's normal, that when you are expelled from home by religious discourse, when you are pushed into prostitution by religious discourse, when many times, faced with genocide, death, violence, religious people end up not doing what is expected to counter that narrative, certain groups have this kind of reaction.",2509.44,2529.94,"46e34418-d4e2-486c-9650-5a941166e90a","guarantee protection for women, the LGBTQIA+ community, and peripheral populations","reports expulsions and violence suffered for religious reasons.",{"idx":2335,"utterance_id":2336,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2337,"start_s":2338,"end_s":2339,"word_count":234,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":1716,"target_proposition":1717,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":2340,"indexable":63},356,"139133","And that is why I have drawn more and more attention and tried... to reach out to people to understand that inside the churches there are many wonderful, powerful, important people who make this Brazil move forward.",2530.22,2541.86,"declares seeking people and understanding that there are positive leaders in the churches.",{"idx":2342,"utterance_id":2343,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2344,"start_s":2345,"end_s":2346,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},357,"139134","The Donas Marias, the Seus Joãos, the female workers, the pastors themselves.",2542.14,2546.32,{"idx":2348,"utterance_id":2349,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2350,"start_s":2351,"end_s":2352,"word_count":211,"indexable":14},358,"139135","There are many good pastors, many good priests, many good pai de santo, just as there are many horrible pai de santo, many horrible pastors, many horrible priests.",2546.34,2554.22,{"idx":2354,"utterance_id":2355,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2356,"start_s":2357,"end_s":2358,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},359,"139136","I don't think we can treat everything as if it were all the same.",2554.4,2557.92,{"idx":2360,"utterance_id":2361,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2362,"start_s":2363,"end_s":2364,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},360,"139137","But now it's very important that we manage to find a point of contact.",2558.24,2563.18,{"idx":2366,"utterance_id":2367,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2368,"start_s":2369,"end_s":2370,"word_count":193,"indexable":14},361,"139138","Dialogue to create, to remove this dichotomy, this division that doesn't exist — there is no such war, at least not on our part, between Christians and the LGBT community.",2563.4,2575.34,{"idx":2372,"utterance_id":2373,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2374,"start_s":2375,"end_s":2376,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},362,"139139","That doesn't exist.",2575.88,2576.6,{"idx":2378,"utterance_id":2379,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2380,"start_s":2381,"end_s":2382,"word_count":141,"indexable":14},363,"139140","We are not proposing that, but those whom I call 'faith pimps' — and there is no other nomenclature.",2576.64,2582.76,{"idx":2384,"utterance_id":2385,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2386,"start_s":2387,"end_s":2388,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},364,"139141","This is the nomenclature, this is the term that should be applied.",2583.34,2587.2,{"idx":2390,"utterance_id":2391,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2392,"start_s":2393,"end_s":2394,"word_count":252,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":2395,"target_proposition":2396,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":960,"rationale":2397,"indexable":63},365,"139142","People who use vulnerability, fear, precariousness, often the failures of the State, to enrich themselves, to manipulate the Gospel, to co-opt souls and hearts for their own pleasure — that is what fundamentalism is.",2587.42,2601.94,"bf910ff2-73a2-4c48-b6a8-00b8862faf51","combat religious fundamentalism that exploits vulnerabilities","defines fundamentalism as exploitation and condemns that behavior.",{"idx":2399,"utterance_id":2400,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2401,"start_s":2402,"end_s":2403,"word_count":65,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":2395,"target_proposition":2396,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":2404,"indexable":14},366,"139143","Fundamentalism places itself above God.",2601.96,2603.86,"states that fundamentalism places itself above religious truth, a direct criticism.",{"idx":2406,"utterance_id":2407,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2408,"start_s":2409,"end_s":2410,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},367,"139144","Fundamentalism doesn't care about God's truth; it feels superior.",2604.24,2608.02,{"idx":2412,"utterance_id":2413,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2414,"start_s":2415,"end_s":2416,"word_count":170,"indexable":14},368,"139145","And then we see the small cliques of life, among many others, who place themselves above the Gospel to preach hatred and violence.",2608.28,2615.66,{"idx":2418,"utterance_id":2419,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2420,"start_s":2421,"end_s":2422,"word_count":424,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":1716,"target_proposition":1717,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1240,"rationale":2423,"indexable":63},369,"139146","But I think that we, as a political spectrum, have, for example, figures who hold this discussion; my party has a figure, for example, Pastor Henrique Vieira, who is a person who brings theology, who brings the debate of the Gospel to another perspective, seeking to say, look, this division does not exist.",2615.68,2632.12,"cites a party figure who brings a more open theological debate as an example.",{"idx":2425,"utterance_id":2426,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2427,"start_s":2428,"end_s":2429,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},370,"139147","It's not, as you put it, treating these groups like they're in reverse gear.",2632.32,2635.6,{"idx":2431,"utterance_id":2432,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2433,"start_s":2434,"end_s":2435,"word_count":258,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":2395,"target_proposition":2396,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":2436,"indexable":63},371,"139148","It's to say, this group was contaminated by people of bad character, by dishonest people, by people who end up preventing this group from truly understanding its importance, including in the electoral role, in political debate, in elections.",2635.78,2651.42,"says groups were 'contaminados' by dishonest agents, calling for confrontation.",{"idx":2438,"utterance_id":2439,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2440,"start_s":2441,"end_s":2442,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":1716,"target_proposition":1717,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":2443,"rationale":2444,"indexable":63},372,"139149","And they are contaminated by a shallow, superficial, hateful discourse, in which I think that if we do not open ourselves to break this dichotomy, to sit with these figures, to dialogue with them, to understand where these fears are, what is at stake, what is worrying these social groups, we will address it, we will speak.",2651.62,2671.84,0.83,"advocates opening dialogue and breaking dichotomies with religious groups.",{"idx":2446,"utterance_id":2447,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2448,"start_s":2449,"end_s":2450,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},373,"139150","Let's talk, let's bring other strands, other views, so that these groups can reach their own conclusions.",2672.14,2678.94,{"idx":2452,"utterance_id":2453,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2454,"start_s":2455,"end_s":2456,"word_count":187,"indexable":14},374,"139151","We will always be portrayed as those who want to stay distant, or who don't know how to dialogue, or who can't, or who aren't capable.",2679.26,2687.04,{"idx":2458,"utterance_id":2459,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2460,"start_s":2461,"end_s":2462,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},375,"139152","And I think that's nonsense.",2687.34,2689.02,{"idx":2464,"utterance_id":2465,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2466,"start_s":2467,"end_s":2468,"word_count":258,"topic_slug":1699,"topic_label":1700,"target_id":1716,"target_proposition":1717,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":2469,"indexable":63},376,"139153","I think that we, as... parliamentarians, or as society, or it doesn't matter, we have a duty to talk to everyone, especially to a group as significant as Christians in our country.",2689.26,2702.36,"states a duty to talk with everyone, especially Christians.",{"idx":2471,"utterance_id":2472,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2473,"start_s":2474,"end_s":2475,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},377,"139154","And your personal relationship with faith today?",2702.52,2704.36,{"idx":2477,"utterance_id":2478,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2479,"start_s":2480,"end_s":2481,"word_count":70,"indexable":14},378,"139155","Look, my personal relationship with faith today, I think, is basically nil.",2704.62,2707.68,{"idx":2483,"utterance_id":2484,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2485,"start_s":2486,"end_s":2487,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},379,"139156","I'm not really a religious-faith person.",2707.72,2710.88,{"idx":2489,"utterance_id":2490,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2491,"start_s":2492,"end_s":2493,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},380,"139157","I have a lot of faith.",2710.92,2711.54,{"idx":2495,"utterance_id":2496,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2497,"start_s":2498,"end_s":2499,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},381,"139158","I have faith in life, I have faith in the things I have done, I have faith in the forces of 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service.",2725.18,2737.36,{"idx":2519,"utterance_id":2520,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2521,"start_s":2522,"end_s":2523,"word_count":258,"indexable":14},385,"139162","But I was recently recording with an important religious leader, a video for his podcast, and I told him, I... I don't have that direct relationship with faith, but I'm always involved with religious people.",2737.68,2748.84,{"idx":2525,"utterance_id":2526,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2527,"start_s":2528,"end_s":2529,"word_count":250,"indexable":14},386,"139163","Because there is great affection for many religious people, from all backgrounds, from African-rooted religions, from the Catholic Church, from the evangelical religion, and they always seek me out to say prayers, to do something, and I accept.",2749.04,2762.28,{"idx":2531,"utterance_id":2532,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2533,"start_s":2534,"end_s":2535,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},387,"139164","I accept because I think faith is about doing good, about being good to others.",2762.54,2766.94,{"idx":2537,"utterance_id":2538,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2539,"start_s":2540,"end_s":2541,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},388,"139165","And I came from gerontology, I told this to Ernesto, and faith has a very important role in palliative care.",2766.96,2771.78,{"idx":2543,"utterance_id":2544,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2545,"start_s":2546,"end_s":2547,"word_count":304,"indexable":14},389,"139166","Religion has an important role there at the time of... I learned to relate to, to re... I don't even know if that word exists, but to reconnect with it at that moment, to make peace also with many resentments, many pains and many violences that were there.",2772.1,2788.5,{"idx":2549,"utterance_id":2550,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2551,"start_s":2552,"end_s":2553,"word_count":316,"topic_slug":2554,"topic_label":2555,"target_id":2556,"target_proposition":2557,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":2280,"rationale":2558,"indexable":63},390,"139167","And today I defend that people can have their faith in a secular state, to experiment and live it in the way that pleases them most and best suits them, but that it should never be used to stigmatize, to perpetrate violence, and to preach hatred.",2788.76,2801.34,"liberdade-religiosa-e-de-expressao","Religious Freedom \u002F Free Expression","e3f3265d-595d-4fac-885f-89f1be1bf130","protect religious freedom and freedom of expression","says 'eu defendo' faith in a secular state and that religion should not be used for hate.",{"idx":2560,"utterance_id":2561,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2562,"start_s":2563,"end_s":2564,"word_count":112,"indexable":14},391,"139168","I'd like to bring up the issue of the 6x1 schedule in the conversation with you, because... It's a fact that you were a key player in that mobilization.",2801.44,2809.78,{"idx":2566,"utterance_id":2567,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2568,"start_s":2569,"end_s":2570,"word_count":205,"indexable":14},392,"139169","At the time your video went viral, I was talking with the minister of President Lula and he told me that you had created a big problem for the government.",2810.42,2817.38,{"idx":2572,"utterance_id":2573,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2574,"start_s":2575,"end_s":2576,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},393,"139170","What problem?",2818.34,2819.9,{"idx":2578,"utterance_id":2579,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2580,"start_s":2581,"end_s":2582,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},394,"139171","When you made that post about the 6x1 schedule and it grew to that enormous proportion.",2819.98,2825.16,{"idx":2584,"utterance_id":2585,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2586,"start_s":2587,"end_s":2588,"word_count":228,"indexable":14},395,"139172","And he said that you had created a big problem for the government, because after all, this was an agenda that the government had no intention of embracing at that time.",2825.7,2834.18,{"idx":2590,"utterance_id":2591,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2592,"start_s":2593,"end_s":2594,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},396,"139173","He understood that there was a great resistance, including from the productive sector; there had been confusion over the T-shirt tax, they didn't want it.",2834.62,2841.08,{"idx":2596,"utterance_id":2597,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2598,"start_s":2599,"end_s":2600,"word_count":217,"indexable":14},397,"139174","to bring this agenda and, according to that same minister, it would be very awkward for a figure like President Lula, who built his political career as a union leader, not to support something of this type.",2841.52,2853.5,{"idx":2602,"utterance_id":2603,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2604,"start_s":2605,"end_s":2606,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},398,"139175","So, that the government was in an awkward spot.",2853.56,2855.62,{"idx":2608,"utterance_id":2609,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2610,"start_s":2611,"end_s":2612,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},399,"139176","But then it got close to the election and, suddenly, everyone embraced it.",2856,2859.1,{"idx":2614,"utterance_id":2615,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2616,"start_s":2617,"end_s":2618,"word_count":250,"indexable":14},400,"139177","I'd like you to give an interpretation of that assessment, your evaluation regarding that remark and also what role you attribute to yourself for having managed to advance that agenda.",2860.04,2873.7,{"idx":2620,"utterance_id":2621,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2622,"start_s":2623,"end_s":2624,"word_count":205,"indexable":14},401,"139178","I don't know which minister that was, Clarissa, but I imagine that today he must be very embarrassed, perhaps under the table, looking at all the mobilizations we carried out.",2874.24,2882.7,{"idx":2626,"utterance_id":2627,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2628,"start_s":2629,"end_s":2630,"word_count":164,"indexable":14},402,"139179","At the beginning of this discussion, not just that minister, but I think many people treated this debate as if I were crazy.",2883.94,2889.42,{"idx":2632,"utterance_id":2633,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2634,"start_s":2635,"end_s":2636,"word_count":193,"indexable":14},403,"139180","My God, here comes another leftist bringing a debate without rhyme or reason, that won't stand, that the economy won't sustain, etc.",2889.76,2897.56,{"idx":2638,"utterance_id":2639,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2640,"start_s":2641,"end_s":2642,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},404,"139181","I feel that I was treated that way by many people, in many places.",2898.06,2902.52,{"idx":2644,"utterance_id":2645,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2646,"start_s":2647,"end_s":2648,"word_count":263,"indexable":14},405,"139182","But people didn't expect that I wasn't conducting a frivolous debate, that I had sought economists, that I had consulted authorities on the subject, that I had studied, researched and tried to find... what was the path for this discussion to move forward.",2902.76,2916.4,{"idx":2650,"utterance_id":2651,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2652,"start_s":2653,"end_s":2654,"word_count":345,"indexable":14},406,"139183","We already had examples in other countries around the world, we already had a series of articles that discussed the reduction of the working day and we did what my grandmother and many grandmothers in Brazil told me: constant dripping wears away the stone.",2916.62,2931.26,{"idx":2656,"utterance_id":2657,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2658,"start_s":2659,"end_s":2660,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},407,"139184","I had conviction",2931.54,2932.66,{"idx":2662,"utterance_id":2663,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2664,"start_s":2665,"end_s":2666,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},408,"139185","about my agenda.",2932.96,2933.56,{"idx":2668,"utterance_id":2669,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2670,"start_s":2671,"end_s":2672,"word_count":164,"indexable":14},409,"139186","An agenda that was brought to my mandate by the VAT movement, which is Vida Além do Trabalho, and which seemed profoundly legitimate to me.",2933.92,2942.52,{"idx":2674,"utterance_id":2675,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2676,"start_s":2677,"end_s":2678,"word_count":130,"topic_slug":2679,"topic_label":2680,"target_id":2681,"target_proposition":2682,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":2683,"rationale":2684,"indexable":63},410,"139187","It's 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Together with the VAT movement and other movements, we were putting this into the hearts of people, who are the ones who can decide the direction of a policy when they pressure, when they demand, when they say, I'm tired, I want to see my daughter grow up, I want to live with my family, I want to be able to go to church, I want to be able to attend a service.",2961.78,2980,"describes popular mobilization to pressure for and approve the reduction.",{"idx":2718,"utterance_id":2719,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2720,"start_s":2721,"end_s":2722,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},416,"139193","Evangelical women, evangelical men say this.",2980.24,2982.84,{"idx":2724,"utterance_id":2725,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2726,"start_s":2727,"end_s":2728,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},417,"139194","The 6x1 schedule takes me away from my own 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consequences, describing trade-offs.",{"idx":2817,"utterance_id":2818,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2819,"start_s":2820,"end_s":2821,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},432,"139209","As everything in life has economic consequences.",3051.66,3053.48,{"idx":2823,"utterance_id":2824,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2825,"start_s":2826,"end_s":2827,"word_count":106,"indexable":14},433,"139210","Other countries in the world that made these changes also had their consequences.",3053.52,3057.28,{"idx":2829,"utterance_id":2830,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2831,"start_s":2832,"end_s":2833,"word_count":82,"topic_slug":2679,"topic_label":2680,"target_id":2681,"target_proposition":2682,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":75,"rationale":2834,"indexable":14},434,"139211","But it has been shown that the consequences, if done gradually and in an organized manner, the result is much more positive than negative.",3057.58,3065.4,"argues that, if gradual, results tend to be more 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Entirely.",3106.96,3110.76,{"idx":2914,"utterance_id":2915,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2916,"start_s":2917,"end_s":2918,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},448,"139225","I think I was a very important figure.",3111.1,3113.2,{"idx":2920,"utterance_id":2921,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2922,"start_s":2923,"end_s":2924,"word_count":141,"indexable":14},449,"139226","Because besides going there to pressure the government and fight with the government, I was requesting subsidies, inputs.",3113.36,3120.12,{"idx":2926,"utterance_id":2927,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2928,"start_s":2929,"end_s":2930,"word_count":153,"topic_slug":2679,"topic_label":2680,"target_id":2681,"target_proposition":2682,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1240,"rationale":2931,"indexable":63},450,"139227","So I requested studies, I requested data, I requested numbers, I requested information to make this hold up in Brazil.",3120.3,3127.24,"says he requested studies and data to support the proposal for the workday.",{"idx":2933,"utterance_id":2934,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2935,"start_s":2936,"end_s":2937,"word_count":322,"indexable":14},451,"139228","Because I didn't have all the important data, micro and small businesses, and a series of data which, when they were produced and presented, showed that the issue not only stood up, but could be embraced by the President of the Republic, and that's what happened.",3127.26,3141.96,{"idx":2939,"utterance_id":2940,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2941,"start_s":2942,"end_s":2943,"word_count":94,"indexable":14},452,"139229","In conversations with Minister Sidoni, in conversations with Minister Gleisi, later Minister Guilherme Boulos, who went to the Planalto, we were maturing the issue, we were bringing the necessary subsidies, and today this is an extremely important agenda for Brazil, for President Lula and the president... of the Chamber.",3141.98,3157.3,{"idx":2945,"utterance_id":2946,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2947,"start_s":2948,"end_s":2949,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},453,"139230","Algumota has already committed publicly, and has also committed behind the scenes to take this issue to be approved still in the first semester.",3157.32,3164.5,{"idx":2951,"utterance_id":2952,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2953,"start_s":2954,"end_s":2955,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},454,"139231","Well, there is a time to ask, a time to answer and there is also a time to take the break that has arrived.",3164.56,3169.78,{"idx":2957,"utterance_id":2958,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2959,"start_s":2960,"end_s":2961,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},455,"139232","One more quick break, we'll be right back with Deputy Erika Hilton.",3170.26,3173.84,{"idx":2963,"utterance_id":2964,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2965,"start_s":2966,"end_s":2967,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},456,"139233","See you shortly.",3173.86,3174.1,{"idx":2969,"utterance_id":2970,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1511,"start_s":2971,"end_s":2972,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},457,"139234",3189.02,3192.06,{"idx":2974,"utterance_id":2975,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1517,"start_s":2976,"end_s":2977,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},458,"139235",3192.48,3193.1,{"idx":2979,"utterance_id":2980,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2981,"start_s":2982,"end_s":2983,"word_count":153,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":1528,"target_proposition":1529,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":2984,"indexable":63},459,"139236","Today, we're going to learn about Aprender Conectado, which has already brought internet to more than 20,000 public schools across Brazil.",3198.6,3204.62,"presents the Aprender Conectado program and the number of schools served.",{"idx":2986,"utterance_id":2987,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1534,"start_s":2988,"end_s":2989,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},460,"139237",3204.88,3206.24,{"idx":2991,"utterance_id":2992,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1540,"start_s":2993,"end_s":2994,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},461,"139238",3206.42,3207.9,{"idx":2996,"utterance_id":2997,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1546,"start_s":2998,"end_s":2999,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},462,"139239",3208.36,3212.48,{"idx":3001,"utterance_id":3002,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1553,"start_s":3003,"end_s":3004,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},463,"139240",3212.88,3217.94,{"idx":3006,"utterance_id":3007,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1560,"start_s":3008,"end_s":3009,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},464,"139241",3218.48,3222.28,{"idx":3011,"utterance_id":3012,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3013,"start_s":3014,"end_s":3015,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},465,"139242","Good signal for education.",3222.3,3223.5,{"idx":3017,"utterance_id":3018,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3019,"start_s":3020,"end_s":3021,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},466,"139243","Very well, we're back with questions from the audience.",3241.62,3244.52,{"idx":3023,"utterance_id":3024,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3025,"start_s":3026,"end_s":3027,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},467,"139244","And I confess the question I had here disappeared, but we'll find it in a moment, please hold on.",3245.16,3251.82,{"idx":3029,"utterance_id":3030,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3031,"start_s":3032,"end_s":3033,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},468,"139245","But let's start, then, with the university students.",3252.54,3254.62,{"idx":3035,"utterance_id":3036,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3037,"start_s":3038,"end_s":3039,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},469,"139246","Sofia, from SPM, you can start with your question.",3255.48,3258.5,{"idx":3041,"utterance_id":3042,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3043,"start_s":3044,"end_s":3045,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},470,"139247","Congresswoman, good evening.",3258.78,3259.8,{"idx":3047,"utterance_id":3048,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3049,"start_s":3050,"end_s":3051,"word_count":205,"topic_slug":3052,"topic_label":3053,"target_id":3054,"target_proposition":3055,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":3056,"indexable":63},471,"139248","We experienced a large wave of attacks, most disguised as freedom of expression, after you were elected as president of the Commission for the Defense of Women's Rights.",3260.32,3269.86,"extremismo-e-discurso-de-odio","Extremism and Hate Speech","7957c57b-b8ec-4c59-a720-21c7b7dd85f9","combat hate speech","reports a wave of attacks disguised as freedom of expression after the election.",{"idx":3058,"utterance_id":3059,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3060,"start_s":3061,"end_s":3062,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},472,"139249","Where do you think this dissemination came from?",3270.34,3272.34,{"idx":3064,"utterance_id":3065,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3066,"start_s":3067,"end_s":3068,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},473,"139250","I think it comes from that place where people still do not understand diversity as an important part, including of democracy.",3273.42,3280.28,{"idx":3070,"utterance_id":3071,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3072,"start_s":3073,"end_s":3074,"word_count":170,"indexable":14},474,"139251","I think we have a process that we repeat a lot, and the more we repeat it, the more it seems we end up trivializing it.",3280.84,3286.22,{"idx":3076,"utterance_id":3077,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3078,"start_s":3079,"end_s":3080,"word_count":114,"topic_slug":1329,"topic_label":1330,"target_id":3081,"target_proposition":3082,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":3083,"indexable":63},475,"139252","Brazil remains the first country in the world that kills women like me.",3286.58,3289.34,"f08b3ce6-58b3-4c8f-abfb-df1e3e2e0b6d","combat violence and murders of trans women","states a serious fact about deaths of trans women in Brazil.",{"idx":3085,"utterance_id":3086,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3087,"start_s":3088,"end_s":3089,"word_count":205,"indexable":14},476,"139253","When this country looks at this woman occupying a space and prominence, there is a gigantic need for them to rebel to prohibit, to limit others from continuing to advance.",3289.36,3301.5,{"idx":3091,"utterance_id":3092,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3093,"start_s":3094,"end_s":3095,"word_count":164,"indexable":14},477,"139254","that her arrival in that space represented a brutal threat to the whole, an organized annihilation of dignity, of life, of belonging to those groups.",3302.48,3311.66,{"idx":3097,"utterance_id":3098,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3099,"start_s":3100,"end_s":3101,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},478,"139255","So it's necessary to attack, to try to intimidate.",3311.78,3314.06,{"idx":3103,"utterance_id":3104,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3105,"start_s":3106,"end_s":3107,"word_count":366,"indexable":14},479,"139256","And then this is proliferated by agendas, by politicians, by hate offices that maintain these discourses to continue to hurt, to violate and to say 'not here, here we do not accept people like you, this is not the place to have a trans person, to have a travesti, to have groups.'",3314.28,3331.68,{"idx":3109,"utterance_id":3110,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3111,"start_s":3112,"end_s":3113,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},480,"139257","who have historically not occupied that space.",3331.92,3334.54,{"idx":3115,"utterance_id":3116,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3117,"start_s":3118,"end_s":3119,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},481,"139258","That becomes very clear.",3334.8,3335.76,{"idx":3121,"utterance_id":3122,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3123,"start_s":3124,"end_s":3125,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},482,"139259","And I believe that however painful and difficult this process may have been, it is also a pedagogical process.",3336,3342.1,{"idx":3127,"utterance_id":3128,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3129,"start_s":3130,"end_s":3131,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},483,"139260","It calls on social movements, it calls on the Brazilian left, it calls on progressives to look at where we are.",3342.4,3350.66,{"idx":3133,"utterance_id":3134,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3135,"start_s":3136,"end_s":3137,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},484,"139261","An election is not enough, it is not enough for trans people to be represented in certain spaces.",3350.92,3357.1,{"idx":3139,"utterance_id":3140,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3141,"start_s":3142,"end_s":3143,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},485,"139262","We still face an agenda of profound hatred and intolerance.",3357.38,3361.1,{"idx":3145,"utterance_id":3146,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3147,"start_s":3148,"end_s":3149,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},486,"139263","our existence.",3361.14,3361.9,{"idx":3151,"utterance_id":3152,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3153,"start_s":3154,"end_s":3155,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":980,"topic_label":981,"target_id":2331,"target_proposition":2332,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":3156,"indexable":63},487,"139264","We will need to have a deeper debate in the search for dignity, in the search for the right to live, to exist in a country that still kills us with such barbaric refinements of cruelty.",3362.16,3371.88,"states the need for a deep debate in pursuit of dignity and rights.",{"idx":3158,"utterance_id":3159,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3160,"start_s":3161,"end_s":3162,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},488,"139265","So, without a doubt, I think it comes from that place.",3372.1,3374.04,{"idx":3164,"utterance_id":3165,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3166,"start_s":3167,"end_s":3168,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},489,"139266","Sorry, I wanted to give Luan... Methodist, a chance to ask his question, because it's exactly on this topic.",3374.42,3382.26,{"idx":3170,"utterance_id":3171,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3172,"start_s":3173,"end_s":3174,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},490,"139267","Actually, mine is a follow-up to hers.",3382.48,3384.54,{"idx":3176,"utterance_id":3177,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3178,"start_s":3179,"end_s":3180,"word_count":199,"indexable":14},491,"139268","We wanted to understand whether you identify where all this hatred came from, whether it is a dissemination by the opposition, whether it is transphobia, homophobia, a combination of all that.",3385.06,3396.38,{"idx":3182,"utterance_id":3183,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3184,"start_s":3185,"end_s":3186,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},492,"139269","And now, allow me, I will also add the question from Regina Almeida, from São Paulo.",3397,3402.1,{"idx":3188,"utterance_id":3189,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3190,"start_s":3191,"end_s":3192,"word_count":141,"indexable":14},493,"139270","How can we turn the tide of hatred — so repeatedly troubling in Congresswoman Érica's discourse — in a Brazil so politically ill?",3402.56,3412.32,{"idx":3194,"utterance_id":3195,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3196,"start_s":3197,"end_s":3198,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},494,"139271","In this context, what would be the opposite of hatred?",3412.6,3414.82,{"idx":3200,"utterance_id":3201,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3202,"start_s":3203,"end_s":3204,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},495,"139272","Can we have any hope?",3415.24,3416.28,{"idx":3206,"utterance_id":3207,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3208,"start_s":3209,"end_s":3210,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},496,"139273","Great.",3416.58,3417.04,{"idx":3212,"utterance_id":3213,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3214,"start_s":3215,"end_s":3216,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},497,"139274","We found, Luan, far-right profiles sponsoring, paying.",3417.9,3425.32,{"idx":3218,"utterance_id":3219,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3220,"start_s":3221,"end_s":3222,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},498,"139275","for hate speech against me.",3425.78,3427.38,{"idx":3224,"utterance_id":3225,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3226,"start_s":3227,"end_s":3228,"word_count":234,"indexable":14},499,"139276","There is a dossier, a vast body of material from parliamentarians from the most diverse fields, from the Federal, State and Municipal Legislative Branches, from various municipalities in Brazil, who financed, who paid, who boosted hate speech against me.",3427.5,3443.44,{"idx":3230,"utterance_id":3231,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3232,"start_s":3233,"end_s":3234,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},500,"139277","This is not just organic.",3443.64,3444.74,{"idx":3236,"utterance_id":3237,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3238,"start_s":3239,"end_s":3240,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},501,"139278","But what happens?",3444.76,3445.8,{"idx":3242,"utterance_id":3243,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3244,"start_s":3245,"end_s":3246,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},502,"139279","There is planning, there is an organization that finances, that pays and that taps into the sentiment of society.",3445.92,3453.46,{"idx":3248,"utterance_id":3249,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3250,"start_s":3251,"end_s":3252,"word_count":112,"indexable":14},503,"139280","So you promote... hatred. You, a parliamentarian in a democratic state governed by the rule of law who should cherish the dignity of all people, do not.",3453.8,3463.26,{"idx":3254,"utterance_id":3255,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3256,"start_s":3257,"end_s":3258,"word_count":112,"indexable":14},504,"139281","You go there, use money in those very powerful big techs that circulate hatred at an absurd speed, and you finance the whole hate speech against me.",3463.28,3473.58,{"idx":3260,"utterance_id":3261,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3262,"start_s":3263,"end_s":3264,"word_count":263,"topic_slug":3265,"topic_label":3266,"target_id":3267,"target_proposition":3268,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":3269,"indexable":63},505,"139282","All that wave we saw was not organic; it was paid for, it was sponsored — sponsored by federal deputies, state deputies, councilors, they put in money — and that money goes, as I was responding to your colleague...",3473.86,3486.42,"desinformacao-e-financiamento","Disinformation and Funding","b3bf23f1-0801-4463-868e-96d0f17c9f92","investigate and curb parliamentary funding of hate speech on social networks","accuses parliamentarians of sponsoring attacks and implies the need to confront them.",{"idx":3271,"utterance_id":3272,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3273,"start_s":3274,"end_s":3275,"word_count":460,"indexable":14},506,"139283","It meets a sentiment present in society, which is hatred of diversity, hatred of the trans population, hatred of the LGBTQIA+ community, which is taught from childhood, which is often taught in school, which is taught in churches, which is taught by families to ridicule, to mock, to find it funny to mock a little classmate who is different, because we are all different.",3486.66,3509.44,{"idx":3277,"utterance_id":3278,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3279,"start_s":3280,"end_s":3281,"word_count":205,"indexable":14},507,"139284","So when you put the money in and you have a culture that is not... not addressed in the heart of society, that becomes something extremely radioactive, an atomic bomb.",3509.58,3521.04,{"idx":3283,"utterance_id":3284,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3285,"start_s":3286,"end_s":3287,"word_count":70,"indexable":14},508,"139285","So you provide the incentive and then you have that whole wave of radiation.",3521.06,3526.1,{"idx":3289,"utterance_id":3290,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3291,"start_s":3292,"end_s":3293,"word_count":322,"topic_slug":3052,"topic_label":3053,"target_id":3054,"target_proposition":3055,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":2280,"rationale":3294,"indexable":63},509,"139286","And for us remains the work of, even being attacked, violated, beaten, doing this pedagogical exercise, which is where I get to your question, to the issue that, after all, a viewer brought up, which is: we need to talk about pedagogical work, we need to pedagogize people, we need... to educate society.",3526.36,3543.76,"explicitly states 'precisamos pedagogizar', advocating education against hate.",{"idx":3296,"utterance_id":3297,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3298,"start_s":3299,"end_s":3300,"word_count":187,"topic_slug":3301,"topic_label":3302,"target_id":3303,"target_proposition":3304,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":2280,"rationale":3305,"indexable":63},510,"139287","We need to make society understand that we are here, we will stay here, and that it is important not for love to oppose hate, but for respect.",3543.96,3553.06,"direitos-e-igualdade","Rights and Equality","7eb0a615-75cf-4912-9d4b-b05f147ad434","promote equality and not discriminate on the basis of gender or race in politics","declares the need for respect and for the community's continued presence; action proposed.",{"idx":3307,"utterance_id":3308,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3309,"start_s":3310,"end_s":3311,"word_count":351,"topic_slug":3312,"topic_label":3313,"target_id":3314,"target_proposition":3315,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":3316,"indexable":63},511,"139288","Democracy, civil rights, this needs to be guaranteed, because hatred aims precisely to destroy these values, to steal our dignity, to steal our right to the bathroom, to steal our right to school, to steal our right to affection, among a series of other layers.",3553.4,3571.76,"direitos-civis","Civil rights","58f030f9-4a2d-452e-9cfd-989fb29f5ce5","preserve civil liberties","affirms that democracy and rights must be secured against hate.",{"idx":3318,"utterance_id":3319,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3320,"start_s":3321,"end_s":3322,"word_count":114,"topic_slug":1526,"topic_label":1527,"target_id":3323,"target_proposition":3324,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":3325,"indexable":63},512,"139289","So we need to counter hatred by doing this educational exercise, pedagogizing, demystifying.",3572.06,3580.14,"7a1fe79e-c7be-4a3c-8f3f-c0c6e515035d","implement educational programs against hate and discrimination","says 'precisamos' and calls to pedagogize and demystify as a counterpoint to hate.",{"idx":3327,"utterance_id":3328,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3329,"start_s":3330,"end_s":3331,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},513,"139290","What are the values?",3580.34,3581.32,{"idx":3333,"utterance_id":3334,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3335,"start_s":3336,"end_s":3337,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},514,"139291","What are the cultures?",3581.56,3582.54,{"idx":3339,"utterance_id":3340,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3341,"start_s":3342,"end_s":3343,"word_count":13,"topic_slug":3344,"topic_label":3345,"target_id":3346,"target_proposition":3347,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":3348,"indexable":63},515,"139292","that are structured, how are we going to review them and put in place and implement other mechanisms and other ways for society to look at diversity.",3582.56,3592.7,"politicas-de-diversidade","Diversity Policies","5fdc76a4-82c3-4a16-9f2e-57f8a7274cdc","promote diversity policies","proposes reviewing cultures and implementing mechanisms to address diversity.",{"idx":3350,"utterance_id":3351,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3352,"start_s":3353,"end_s":3354,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},516,"139293","Society needs to change the picture it has made of us.",3592.92,3595.86,{"idx":3356,"utterance_id":3357,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3358,"start_s":3359,"end_s":3360,"word_count":164,"indexable":14},517,"139294","Society needs to clean its view of these groups to understand that we are here all the time fighting only for dignity.",3596.18,3603.26,{"idx":3362,"utterance_id":3363,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3364,"start_s":3365,"end_s":3366,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},518,"139295","Maza, please, your question.",3603.5,3605.42,{"idx":3368,"utterance_id":3369,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3370,"start_s":3371,"end_s":3372,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},519,"139296","Besides that, you spoke about the importance of education and culture.",3605.86,3609.56,{"idx":3374,"utterance_id":3375,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3376,"start_s":3377,"end_s":3378,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},520,"139297","in the formation and constitution of our society.",3609.88,3612.58,{"idx":3380,"utterance_id":3381,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3382,"start_s":3383,"end_s":3384,"word_count":418,"topic_slug":3385,"topic_label":3386,"target_id":3387,"target_proposition":3388,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":3389,"indexable":63},521,"139298","Today, besides the progress in the discussion on the regulation of big techs, the regulation of streaming is a very important agenda for the audiovisual industry, which is an industry that moves billions in our country and which has encountered years of frozen production because foreign streaming services came to Brazil and, following the regulatory debate, froze their productions.",3613.1,3635.9,"politica-cultural","Cultural Policy","73668cbf-7ea3-4172-80af-88cf9fd1520e","regulate streaming platforms to protect national audiovisual production","says streaming regulation is an important agenda for the industry.",{"idx":3391,"utterance_id":3392,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3393,"start_s":3394,"end_s":3395,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},522,"139299","their productions.",3636.2,3637.12,{"idx":3397,"utterance_id":3398,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3399,"start_s":3400,"end_s":3401,"word_count":199,"topic_slug":3385,"topic_label":3386,"target_id":3402,"target_proposition":3403,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":3404,"indexable":63},523,"139300","And we then had a development within the Chamber moving to the Senate with a proposal for a rate much lower than desired, whether for screen quotas or for condescine.",3637.56,3648.28,"7bfc9994-bc9b-4521-a77f-cd4764e4f958","establish screen quotas and platform financial contributions for national audiovisual","criticizes a lower rate and cites screen quota\u002FCondecine as 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lobbies that these foreign companies engage in within Brazilian politics, so that nothing comes out differently from what they want, whether in streaming or on digital platforms themselves.",3664.62,3684.96,"describes the influence of lobbying that changed the text; factual account.",{"idx":3425,"utterance_id":3426,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3427,"start_s":3428,"end_s":3429,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},527,"139304","We had an explosion of debate on the regulation of social networks.",3685.18,3689.1,{"idx":3431,"utterance_id":3432,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3433,"start_s":3434,"end_s":3435,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},528,"139305","They removed the rapporteur, shelved it, and never brought it up again.",3689.36,3693.58,{"idx":3437,"utterance_id":3438,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3439,"start_s":3440,"end_s":3441,"word_count":70,"indexable":14},529,"139306","It hasn't been discussed since, exactly because there is, without a doubt, a huge influence of lobbying.",3693.9,3699.62,{"idx":3443,"utterance_id":3444,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3445,"start_s":3446,"end_s":3447,"word_count":147,"topic_slug":3385,"topic_label":3386,"target_id":3448,"target_proposition":3449,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":3450,"indexable":63},530,"139307","We need to ensure more and more incentives for our sector, incentives for our local production, to ensure that there are spaces.",3699.88,3707.64,"4b79a84c-3bc3-4fb4-840d-f7ffac81bc3a","increase public incentives for national audiovisual production","explicitly says 'precisa garantir incentivo ao nosso setor'.",{"idx":3452,"utterance_id":3453,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3454,"start_s":3455,"end_s":3456,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},531,"139308","We need to face this discussion with seriousness, we need to confront this debate with responsibility.",3707.7,3712.92,{"idx":3458,"utterance_id":3459,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3460,"start_s":3461,"end_s":3462,"word_count":263,"indexable":14},532,"139309","How are we losing ground for our audiovisual producers, our cinema, our production to these foreign companies that come to our country and often leave zero contribution?",3713.12,3726.5,{"idx":3464,"utterance_id":3465,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3466,"start_s":3467,"end_s":3468,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},533,"139310","They don't invest in our education, they don't invest in the training, for example, of our audiovisual professionals, because that could be a counterpart.",3726.96,3733.56,{"idx":3470,"utterance_id":3471,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3472,"start_s":3473,"end_s":3474,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},534,"139311","And that is already my answer.",3733.76,3734.96,{"idx":3476,"utterance_id":3477,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3478,"start_s":3479,"end_s":3480,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},535,"139312","I think these are the paths.",3735.14,3736.2,{"idx":3482,"utterance_id":3483,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3484,"start_s":3485,"end_s":3486,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},536,"139313","So they're going to profit from the film, they're going to profit here in our country?",3736.32,3739.38,{"idx":3488,"utterance_id":3489,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3490,"start_s":3491,"end_s":3492,"word_count":28,"indexable":14},537,"139314","We want to know what the result is, what will be left for the Brazilian population.",3739.6,3743.34,{"idx":3494,"utterance_id":3495,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3496,"start_s":3497,"end_s":3498,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},538,"139315","And it's not that we are enemies of streaming.",3743.54,3745.6,{"idx":3500,"utterance_id":3501,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3502,"start_s":3503,"end_s":3504,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},539,"139316","It's not that we are enemies of the platforms.",3745.9,3748.38,{"idx":3506,"utterance_id":3507,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3508,"start_s":3509,"end_s":3510,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},540,"139317","It's that we believe there needs to be responsibility on one side of the discourse.",3748.64,3752.34,{"idx":3512,"utterance_id":3513,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3514,"start_s":3515,"end_s":3516,"word_count":234,"indexable":14},541,"139318","of hate and, on the other hand, our professionals who are here working, struggling and, as you said, ceasing to produce because they can no longer, because they've been swallowed by these large streaming companies.",3752.38,3766,{"idx":3518,"utterance_id":3519,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3520,"start_s":3521,"end_s":3522,"word_count":263,"indexable":14},542,"139319","So I think one of the paths is, first, greater incentives so that we can increasingly value and put resources into the hands of our audiovisual sector, the people who produce and make our Brazilian audiovisual content, but why not?",3766.2,3780.44,{"idx":3524,"utterance_id":3525,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3526,"start_s":3527,"end_s":3528,"word_count":164,"topic_slug":3385,"topic_label":3386,"target_id":3529,"target_proposition":3530,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":960,"rationale":3531,"indexable":63},543,"139320","Why not ask for a... Why not ask that part of those profits be left here, so that they even finance, foster that incentive.",3780.68,3789.12,"629b37d4-730a-4f5b-9000-6d166858b82e","require financial contributions from platforms to fund national audiovisual production","proposes that part of large companies' profits finance the sector.",{"idx":3533,"utterance_id":3534,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3535,"start_s":3536,"end_s":3537,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},544,"139321","Where does the money come from?",3789.14,3789.9,{"idx":3539,"utterance_id":3540,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3541,"start_s":3542,"end_s":3543,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},545,"139322","It could come from those big companies.",3789.94,3791.86,{"idx":3545,"utterance_id":3546,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3547,"start_s":3548,"end_s":3549,"word_count":293,"indexable":14},546,"139323","I think we need to make this change and this move to ensure that we don't... that we don't wither, that we don't give up, as it is already a very difficult sector, even before streaming.",3792.1,3806.26,{"idx":3551,"utterance_id":3552,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3553,"start_s":3554,"end_s":3555,"word_count":366,"indexable":14},547,"139324","We know that it is already a sector that operates with great difficulty, because there is a great lack of incentives, there is devaluation, there is even a somewhat viralatista view of those who look at this national production as if it were inferior to foreign production, which is ingrained in our country's culture.",3806.5,3824.66,{"idx":3557,"utterance_id":3558,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3559,"start_s":3560,"end_s":3561,"word_count":252,"topic_slug":3385,"topic_label":3386,"target_id":3562,"target_proposition":3563,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1354,"rationale":3564,"indexable":63},548,"139325","But when this production arrives with that speed, in the way it arrives, without much regulation... This dehydration that already existed, but that still persisted, ends up taking the sector almost to a place of asphyxiation.",3825.02,3839.02,"e2a6a272-bb19-4cde-8aff-bbdf642695b8","increase incentives and protection for national audiovisual production","warns of the risk of 'asfixia' to the sector and calls for recognition and incentives.",{"idx":3566,"utterance_id":3567,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3568,"start_s":3569,"end_s":3570,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},549,"139326","And we need to understand how to value this.",3839.3,3843.56,{"idx":3572,"utterance_id":3573,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3574,"start_s":3575,"end_s":3576,"word_count":141,"indexable":14},550,"139327","And then you put in your question a very beautiful word that often doesn't enter into this discussion.",3843.6,3847.66,{"idx":3578,"utterance_id":3579,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3580,"start_s":3581,"end_s":3582,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},551,"139328","Sovereignty.",3848.08,3848.62,{"idx":3584,"utterance_id":3585,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3586,"start_s":3587,"end_s":3588,"word_count":65,"topic_slug":3385,"topic_label":3386,"target_id":3589,"target_proposition":3590,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":3591,"indexable":14},552,"139329","Sovereignty is protecting our sector.",3848.94,3851.02,"9301df17-2c92-4886-8d11-a725447a96b2","protect national audiovisual production as part of cultural sovereignty","defines sovereignty as protecting what is produced at home.",{"idx":3593,"utterance_id":3594,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3595,"start_s":3596,"end_s":3597,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},553,"139330","Sovereignty is protecting what is produced in our home.",3851.34,3854.02,{"idx":3599,"utterance_id":3600,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3601,"start_s":3602,"end_s":3603,"word_count":106,"indexable":14},554,"139331","Sovereignty is defending the interests of our people in all aspects.",3854.28,3858.4,{"idx":3605,"utterance_id":3606,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3607,"start_s":3608,"end_s":3609,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},555,"139332","Including in the aspect of audiovisual production.",3858.62,3860.9,{"idx":3611,"utterance_id":3612,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3613,"start_s":3614,"end_s":3615,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},556,"139333","And we need to have this discussion.",3861.14,3862.96,{"idx":3617,"utterance_id":3618,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3619,"start_s":3620,"end_s":3621,"word_count":263,"topic_slug":3385,"topic_label":3386,"target_id":3387,"target_proposition":3388,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":960,"rationale":3622,"indexable":63},557,"139334","That went to the Senate; I imagine it should return to the Chamber and we will keep insisting that there be regulation, but also that these companies show some responsibility toward our sector, toward our sector.",3863.22,3874.82,"states intention to insist on regulation when returning to the Chamber of Deputies.",{"idx":3624,"utterance_id":3625,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3626,"start_s":3627,"end_s":3628,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},558,"139335","Professor Tiago Amparo, we are talking about culture, about education.",3874.84,3878.36,{"idx":3630,"utterance_id":3631,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3632,"start_s":3633,"end_s":3634,"word_count":205,"indexable":14},559,"139336","Deputy, about... Continuing the education agenda, one of the scarecrows, to use the expression cana... ...within the electoral agenda, precisely about education regarding sexual and reproductive health in schools.",3878.74,3891.7,{"idx":3636,"utterance_id":3637,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3638,"start_s":3639,"end_s":3640,"word_count":466,"topic_slug":3641,"topic_label":3642,"target_id":3643,"target_proposition":3644,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":3645,"indexable":63},560,"139337","Recently, last week, a survey from the Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Education specifically said that the number of Brazilian adolescent students aged 13 to 17 who reported having been forced to have sex increased, and at the same time the number of students who received any kind of guidance on... pregnancy prevention, HIV, sexually transmitted infections, access to condoms, etc., decreased.",3892.86,3917.5,"educacao-sexual-e-saude-reprodutiva","Sex Education & Reproductive Health","a58c4949-464f-4f8f-9ff1-5b6795c00cfc","implement sexual and reproductive education in schools","reports research on violence and a decline in school guidance; it is presented as a statistical fact.",{"idx":3647,"utterance_id":3648,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3649,"start_s":3650,"end_s":3651,"word_count":164,"indexable":14},561,"139338","In other words, more people report violence, more adolescents report violence, and more adolescents report having received no kind of instruction at school.",3918.06,3925,{"idx":3653,"utterance_id":3654,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3655,"start_s":3656,"end_s":3657,"word_count":245,"indexable":14},562,"139339","How can we talk about this agenda without it being co-opted by a dichotomy and polarization and discuss it in a way that people understand it may not be a scarecrow?",3925.58,3935.92,{"idx":3659,"utterance_id":3660,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3661,"start_s":3662,"end_s":3663,"word_count":245,"topic_slug":3641,"topic_label":3642,"target_id":3643,"target_proposition":3644,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":3664,"indexable":63},563,"139340","I think that until we have this debate with seriousness, showing that by discussing this agenda with children and adolescents in schools what we are trying to foresee and minimize are these absurd figures.",3936.44,3949.22,"states that a serious debate in schools aims to prevent and minimize violence.",{"idx":3666,"utterance_id":3667,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3668,"start_s":3669,"end_s":3670,"word_count":430,"indexable":14},564,"139341","The data on violence, the debate about sexuality, about gender, about reproductive rights, about one's own body, is a debate not to catechize the LGBTQIA+ community, as is tried to be presented when we saw, for example, those ideas of gay kits, penis-shaped baby bottles, which were almost... which were so fanciful, but which managed to find in some places people who bought into that agenda.",3949.52,3973.14,{"idx":3672,"utterance_id":3673,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3674,"start_s":3675,"end_s":3676,"word_count":339,"topic_slug":3641,"topic_label":3642,"target_id":3643,"target_proposition":3644,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":960,"rationale":3677,"indexable":63},565,"139342","This discussion is a discussion to make people understand the importance of their own body, of their own rights, to understand, including, to identify what is or is not violence, what is or is not an abusive touch, whom to turn to in the face of such an occurrence.",3973.6,3988.56,"argues for discussing the body, violence, and whom to turn to in schools.",{"idx":3679,"utterance_id":3680,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3681,"start_s":3682,"end_s":3683,"word_count":217,"indexable":14},566,"139343","And what we need to bring to this debate, when we want to speak to society more openly, is to say that this debate is not linked exclusively to the LGBTQIA+ community.",3988.88,3999.24,{"idx":3685,"utterance_id":3686,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3687,"start_s":3688,"end_s":3689,"word_count":228,"indexable":14},567,"139344","This is a national debate, this is a debate for society, for boys and girls who go to school and who need to understand this discussion and who are not LGBT people.",3999.48,4008.6,{"idx":3691,"utterance_id":3692,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3693,"start_s":3694,"end_s":3695,"word_count":205,"indexable":14},568,"139345","They can be cis, heterosexual children who, when they develop their sexuality, will be people who are not on the spectrum, but whom we need to discuss this with to minimize... the rates of abuse, of violence.",4008.82,4021.26,{"idx":3697,"utterance_id":3698,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3699,"start_s":3700,"end_s":3701,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},569,"139346","And automatically, not only sexual violence, but also domestic violence.",4021.36,4025.9,{"idx":3703,"utterance_id":3704,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3705,"start_s":3706,"end_s":3707,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},570,"139347","Because as we discuss the role of women, the role of men, the body, rights,",4025.92,4030.78,{"idx":3709,"utterance_id":3710,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2874,"start_s":3711,"end_s":3712,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},571,"139348",4030.84,4031,{"idx":3714,"utterance_id":3715,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3716,"start_s":3717,"end_s":3718,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},572,"139349","we will raise more conscious boys.",4031.62,4034.7,{"idx":3720,"utterance_id":3721,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3722,"start_s":3723,"end_s":3724,"word_count":70,"indexable":14},573,"139350","We will raise boys who understand the nature of women, understand them... naturally.",4035.06,4040.86,{"idx":3726,"utterance_id":3727,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3728,"start_s":3729,"end_s":3730,"word_count":211,"indexable":14},574,"139351","It is not a scarecrow, it is not a world from which boys are taught that they must stay away, that they must hate, that they cannot replicate any of that.",4041.08,4048.82,{"idx":3732,"utterance_id":3733,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3734,"start_s":3735,"end_s":3736,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},575,"139352","It is a world of humanity.",4049.06,4050.14,{"idx":3738,"utterance_id":3739,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3740,"start_s":3741,"end_s":3742,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},576,"139353","And I believe that when we approach it from this angle, we have a better chance of succeeding.",4050.34,4054.92,{"idx":3744,"utterance_id":3745,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3746,"start_s":3747,"end_s":3748,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},577,"139354","But we are facing very crazy times and we don't know when these agendas will be co-opted.",4055.24,4062.94,{"idx":3750,"utterance_id":3751,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3752,"start_s":3753,"end_s":3754,"word_count":106,"indexable":14},578,"139355","At what moments... the thing is completely distorted and becomes something else.",4063.2,4067.72,{"idx":3756,"utterance_id":3757,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3758,"start_s":3759,"end_s":3760,"word_count":28,"topic_slug":3761,"topic_label":3762,"target_id":3763,"target_proposition":3764,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1389,"rationale":3765,"indexable":63},579,"139356","But if I could answer you, I would say that we have to go down this path.",4067.74,4070.52,"seguranca-publica-e-ordem","Public Safety and 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Brazil.",4113.84,4119.86,{"idx":3800,"utterance_id":3801,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1534,"start_s":3802,"end_s":3803,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},586,"139363",4120.12,4121.46,{"idx":3805,"utterance_id":3806,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1540,"start_s":3807,"end_s":3808,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},587,"139364",4121.66,4123.14,{"idx":3810,"utterance_id":3811,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1546,"start_s":3812,"end_s":3813,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},588,"139365",4123.6,4127.7,{"idx":3815,"utterance_id":3816,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1553,"start_s":3817,"end_s":3818,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},589,"139366",4128.12,4133.18,{"idx":3820,"utterance_id":3821,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3822,"start_s":3823,"end_s":3824,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},590,"139367","And at southern speeds.",4133.72,4136.1,{"idx":3826,"utterance_id":3827,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3828,"start_s":3829,"end_s":3830,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},591,"139368","Aprender Conectado.",4136.16,4138.74,{"idx":3832,"utterance_id":3833,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3013,"start_s":3834,"end_s":3835,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},592,"139369",4154.96,4155.58,{"idx":3837,"utterance_id":3838,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3839,"start_s":3840,"end_s":3841,"word_count":245,"indexable":14},593,"139370","Well, we're back with federal deputy Erika Hilton and I wanted precisely to ask you, ma'am, who is very active and uses the courts a lot to counter comments and adversaries.",4155.6,4171.42,{"idx":3843,"utterance_id":3844,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3845,"start_s":3846,"end_s":3847,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},594,"139371","And today, once again, you asked the AGU to adopt measures against Flávio Bolsonaro for attacks on the electoral process.",4171.54,4180.74,{"idx":3849,"utterance_id":3850,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3851,"start_s":3852,"end_s":3853,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},595,"139372","What exactly is the target in this case?",4180.76,4183.72,{"idx":3855,"utterance_id":3856,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3857,"start_s":3858,"end_s":3859,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},596,"139373","I really like that this question comes after my answer mentioning the inferiority complex, because it exemplifies what the inferiority complex is.",4184.02,4191,{"idx":3861,"utterance_id":3862,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3863,"start_s":3864,"end_s":3865,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":3866,"topic_label":3867,"target_id":3868,"target_proposition":3869,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":3870,"indexable":63},597,"139374","When we have a presidential candidate who goes to another country, a foreign nation, practically selling Brazil and still makes very reckless accusations.",4191.04,4199.54,"sistema-eleitoral-e-voto-impresso-integridade-do-processo","Electoral System & Paper Ballot","c89f292c-c2fb-4860-bb3e-de080473739a","adopt legal and administrative measures against attacks on the electoral process","criticizes accusations without evidence and cites a request to the AGU for measures.",{"idx":3872,"utterance_id":3873,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3874,"start_s":3875,"end_s":3876,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},598,"139375","Bolsonarism has always attacked the integrity of the ballots.",4199.82,4202.2,{"idx":3878,"utterance_id":3879,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3880,"start_s":3881,"end_s":3882,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},599,"139376","They don't believe in elections.",4202.24,4203.66,{"idx":3884,"utterance_id":3885,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3886,"start_s":3887,"end_s":3888,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},600,"139377","Even having been elected through elections, through electronic voting machines, we saw in the attempted coup a direct attack on the electoral process.",4203.88,4212.06,{"idx":3890,"utterance_id":3891,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3892,"start_s":3893,"end_s":3894,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},601,"139378","And now we have seen.",4212.3,4213.24,{"idx":3896,"utterance_id":3897,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3898,"start_s":3899,"end_s":3900,"word_count":112,"indexable":14},602,"139379","in that speech, which does not seem to me to be the speech of someone who wants to preside over a nation, of someone who wants to uphold the rights of the Brazilian people.",4213.28,4221.08,{"idx":3902,"utterance_id":3903,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3904,"start_s":3905,"end_s":3906,"word_count":112,"indexable":14},603,"139380","No one who wants to defend Brazil and Brazilians goes to the United States to offer their country and even ask for interference from the United States in the elections.",4221.42,4229.64,{"idx":3908,"utterance_id":3909,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3910,"start_s":3911,"end_s":3912,"word_count":193,"indexable":14},604,"139381","But more than that, he made an accusation that the Biden administration had interfered in the elections to favor the Lula government with no proof whatsoever,",4229.68,4238.6,{"idx":3914,"utterance_id":3915,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3916,"start_s":3917,"end_s":3918,"word_count":106,"indexable":14},605,"139382","calling into question, questioning the credibility, the integrity of the electoral process.",4239.16,4244.9,{"idx":3920,"utterance_id":3921,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3922,"start_s":3923,"end_s":3924,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},606,"139383","This is very serious.",4244.92,4245.68,{"idx":3926,"utterance_id":3927,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3928,"start_s":3929,"end_s":3930,"word_count":35,"topic_slug":3866,"topic_label":3867,"target_id":3868,"target_proposition":3869,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":960,"rationale":3931,"indexable":63},607,"139384","It is very serious because we just lived through an January 8.",4246,4248.58,"links unfounded accusations to January 8 and argues that attacks must not be allowed.",{"idx":3933,"utterance_id":3934,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3935,"start_s":3936,"end_s":3937,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},608,"139385","It is very serious because we saw a number of disorganized people entering, invading the powers of the Republic, defecating on the tables.",4248.88,4257.2,{"idx":3939,"utterance_id":3940,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3941,"start_s":3942,"end_s":3943,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},609,"139386","And we have a figure who wants to present himself as more moderate, who wants to distance himself, even, from what his father was,",4257.4,4263.82,{"idx":3945,"utterance_id":3946,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3947,"start_s":3948,"end_s":3949,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},610,"139387","making this kind of accusation completely without proof, reckless, irresponsible, criminal.",4264.66,4271.8,{"idx":3951,"utterance_id":3952,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3953,"start_s":3954,"end_s":3955,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},611,"139388","At least that is my assessment.",4272.04,4273.52,{"idx":3957,"utterance_id":3958,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3959,"start_s":3960,"end_s":3961,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},612,"139389","and then I think it will be up to the AGU to say whether or not it was criminal.",4273.56,4277.28,{"idx":3963,"utterance_id":3964,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3965,"start_s":3966,"end_s":3967,"word_count":250,"indexable":14},613,"139390","But we cannot allow a presidential candidate, besides selling the interests of the Brazilian people to the United States even before being elected, to also mount any level of attack on the Brazilian electoral process.",4277.3,4289.94,{"idx":3969,"utterance_id":3970,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3971,"start_s":3972,"end_s":3973,"word_count":228,"indexable":14},614,"139391","Fábio, deputy, I wanted to... I'll ask you, ma'am, about another type of hatred that Congress is also addressing, which also affects you, which is misogyny.",4290.18,4299.84,{"idx":3975,"utterance_id":3976,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3977,"start_s":3978,"end_s":3979,"word_count":84,"topic_slug":3980,"topic_label":3981,"target_id":3982,"target_proposition":3983,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":1240,"rationale":3984,"indexable":63},615,"139392","It was approved by the Senate, unanimous vote, 67 to 0.",4300.22,4304.02,"violencia-contra-a-mulher-e-protecao-as-mulheres","Violence Against Women and Protection","85726745-3056-47f1-91bf-c224d6609376","criminalize acts of misogyny","reports unanimous approval in the Senate and referral to the Chamber of Deputies (factual report).",{"idx":3986,"utterance_id":3987,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3988,"start_s":3989,"end_s":3990,"word_count":70,"indexable":14},616,"139393","The bill that typifies misogyny as a crime now goes to the Chamber.",4304.44,4307.88,{"idx":3992,"utterance_id":3993,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3994,"start_s":3995,"end_s":3996,"word_count":153,"topic_slug":3980,"topic_label":3981,"target_id":3982,"target_proposition":3983,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":2280,"rationale":3997,"indexable":63},617,"139394","It may be one of the first major matters that you will have to defend now as president of the Women's Committee.",4308.48,4313.58,"says she has the strength of women and that she will defend the bill in the committee.",{"idx":3999,"utterance_id":4000,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4001,"start_s":4002,"end_s":4003,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},618,"139395","But after this start leading the committee... Both the confrontations with opponents, your name being taken to the Ethics Council, even.",4314.06,4322.4,{"idx":4005,"utterance_id":4006,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4007,"start_s":4008,"end_s":4009,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},619,"139396","What strength do you believe you have at this moment to defend the misogyny bill in the Chamber?",4323.02,4327.72,{"idx":4011,"utterance_id":4012,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4013,"start_s":4014,"end_s":4015,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},620,"139397","I have the strength of Brazilian women.",4328.32,4330.02,{"idx":4017,"utterance_id":4018,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4019,"start_s":4020,"end_s":4021,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},621,"139398","I have the strength of those who can no longer bear to see so much hateful speech being amplified without any accountability.",4330.66,4339.7,{"idx":4023,"utterance_id":4024,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4025,"start_s":4026,"end_s":4027,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},622,"139399","It is not me for me.",4340.18,4340.98,{"idx":4029,"utterance_id":4030,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4031,"start_s":4032,"end_s":4033,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},623,"139400","who leads the struggles and carries the victories.",4341,4343.46,{"idx":4035,"utterance_id":4036,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4037,"start_s":4038,"end_s":4039,"word_count":250,"indexable":14},624,"139401","It is a collective of women who fight against the 'rape bill', of women who fight against the 'pedophilia bill', of women who do believe that Brazil can have legislation that protects them in a digital environment.",4343.76,4355.4,{"idx":4041,"utterance_id":4042,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4043,"start_s":4044,"end_s":4045,"word_count":250,"indexable":14},625,"139402","We saw what the repercussions of my video were within this theme and we saw what is curious, Fábio, that those same people who attack me and attacked me are the ones who are attacking the misogyny bill.",4355.8,4365.84,{"idx":614,"utterance_id":4047,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4048,"start_s":4049,"end_s":4050,"word_count":141,"indexable":14},"139403","They are creating a dichotomy as if the misogyny bill were a project that would put... men against women.",4365.86,4371.62,{"idx":4052,"utterance_id":4053,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4054,"start_s":4055,"end_s":4056,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},627,"139404","What kind of men are those when we read the wording?",4371.86,4374.66,{"idx":4058,"utterance_id":4059,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4060,"start_s":4061,"end_s":4062,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},628,"139405","When we look at the text to which the bill refers?",4375.04,4378.56,{"idx":4064,"utterance_id":4065,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4066,"start_s":4067,"end_s":4068,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},629,"139406","We are talking about hate speech, threats, treating women as trash in society.",4378.78,4383.54,{"idx":4070,"utterance_id":4071,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4072,"start_s":4073,"end_s":4074,"word_count":228,"indexable":14},630,"139407","And this same extreme right, which created a whole scarecrow over my election to the Women's Committee, now wants to create the same scarecrow to take attention away from what is important.",4383.8,4395.44,{"idx":4076,"utterance_id":4077,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4078,"start_s":4079,"end_s":4080,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":3980,"topic_label":3981,"target_id":3982,"target_proposition":3983,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":4081,"indexable":14},631,"139408","It is necessary to protect women.",4395.8,4397.56,"defends protection for women and an end to misogynistic discourse; supports the PL (Liberal Party).",{"idx":4083,"utterance_id":4084,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4085,"start_s":4086,"end_s":4087,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},632,"139409","It is necessary to put an end to misogynistic speech.",4397.92,4400.04,{"idx":4089,"utterance_id":4090,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4091,"start_s":4092,"end_s":4093,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},633,"139410","misogynistic practices.",4400.3,4401.74,{"idx":4095,"utterance_id":4096,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4097,"start_s":4098,"end_s":4099,"word_count":502,"indexable":14},634,"139411","And we will go with that strength, we will be tied to feminist movements, we will be tied to women, to girls, those who operate in the digital environment, in the professional environment, to all the people who can no longer stand the ever-more blatant violence and who do believe that this is an effective proposition to end that speech that is being made, as I said at the start of our conversation, without shame.",4401.94,4427.68,{"idx":4101,"utterance_id":4102,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4103,"start_s":4104,"end_s":4105,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},635,"139412","It's as if there were legality.",4427.7,4429.28,{"idx":4107,"utterance_id":4108,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4109,"start_s":4110,"end_s":4111,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},636,"139413","It's as if it were legalized to treat women like objects, to encourage it.",4429.4,4433.08,{"idx":4113,"utterance_id":4114,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4115,"start_s":4116,"end_s":4117,"word_count":141,"indexable":14},637,"139414","We saw that trend where if she tells me no, I'll shoot her, I'll stab her.",4433.12,4436.8,{"idx":4119,"utterance_id":4120,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4121,"start_s":4122,"end_s":4123,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},638,"139415","If this is not controlled now, with specific policies and legislation, we will not know where we will end up.",4437.1,4443.48,{"idx":4125,"utterance_id":4126,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4127,"start_s":4128,"end_s":4129,"word_count":263,"indexable":14},639,"139416","So it is with the strength of this awareness that is awake in society that we will confront those people who want to continue protecting rapists, who continue to protect red pill and misogynistic speech in life and in society.",4443.76,4457.4,{"idx":4131,"utterance_id":4132,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4133,"start_s":4134,"end_s":4135,"word_count":496,"topic_slug":4136,"topic_label":4137,"target_id":4138,"target_proposition":4139,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":4140,"indexable":63},640,"139417","Picking up that thread about the big techs, we have seen this wave of red pill, misogynistic content; at the same time we had the Digital ECA approved, important rulings including from the TSE, saying that platforms must immediately remove content of violence against women, but these are also regulations that act on the symptom and not necessarily on the structural cause, on the monopoly that these big techs have politically and economically.",4458.76,4486.66,"regulacao-do-ambiente-digital","Digital environment regulation","cd63702e-34c5-48ae-9187-543ad2b04d7d","approve measures to regulate and remove harmful content on digital platforms","Criticizes symptomatic action and calls for prevention, identification, and rapid removal.",{"idx":4142,"utterance_id":4143,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4144,"start_s":4145,"end_s":4146,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},641,"139418","How have you seen the challenges of confronting this debate in Congress, especially thinking now about the electoral period as well?",4487.3,4494.4,{"idx":4148,"utterance_id":4149,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4150,"start_s":4151,"end_s":4152,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},642,"139419","Very 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that yields a lot to certain sectors of politics that makes it difficult for us to have a discussion to say the internet is not nobody's land.",4525.8,4536.18,{"idx":4202,"utterance_id":4203,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4204,"start_s":4205,"end_s":4206,"word_count":170,"indexable":14},651,"139428","And it's not enough just to delete the video, ban the video, after it has already circulated in the hands of thousands, millions of adolescents, of people.",4536.46,4544.56,{"idx":4208,"utterance_id":4209,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4210,"start_s":4211,"end_s":4212,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},652,"139429","There need to be prevention mechanisms.",4544.8,4546.8,{"idx":4214,"utterance_id":4215,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4216,"start_s":4217,"end_s":4218,"word_count":106,"indexable":14},653,"139430","The platform needs to identify hate speech and automatically block it.",4547.1,4550.98,{"idx":4220,"utterance_id":4221,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4222,"start_s":4223,"end_s":4224,"word_count":28,"topic_slug":4136,"topic_label":4137,"target_id":4225,"target_proposition":4226,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":4227,"indexable":63},654,"139431","I have a bill that talks about the de... monetization of misogynistic and red pill speeches.",4551.32,4556.4,"f08dbca7-20a2-4793-ba4d-81f46b547664","demonetize misogynistic and red-pill content on digital platforms","Says they have a project that proposes demonetization of those speeches.",{"idx":4229,"utterance_id":4230,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4231,"start_s":4232,"end_s":4233,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},655,"139432","It is not possible that someone makes money attacking women, girls, children on social networks.",4556.58,4562.42,{"idx":4235,"utterance_id":4236,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4237,"start_s":4238,"end_s":4239,"word_count":211,"indexable":14},656,"139433","It is not possible that we live like this, that people go there, produce a video, make a hate speech and receive money for it.",4562.86,4571.94,{"idx":4241,"utterance_id":4242,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4243,"start_s":4244,"end_s":4245,"word_count":328,"indexable":14},657,"139434","We need to demonetize this type of content, we need to ban this type of content, and we need to ensure that platforms are held responsible for such content and that there are rapid mechanisms to identify this content so that it is banned within the first hour and not after weeks.",4572.24,4588.48,{"idx":4247,"utterance_id":4248,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4249,"start_s":4250,"end_s":4251,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},658,"139435","circulating and for society to have the contents banned.",4588.7,4591.7,{"idx":4253,"utterance_id":4254,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4255,"start_s":4256,"end_s":4257,"word_count":84,"indexable":14},659,"139436","Deputy, I wanted to talk a little about party politics.",4592.02,4594.78,{"idx":4259,"utterance_id":4260,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4261,"start_s":4262,"end_s":4263,"word_count":199,"topic_slug":4264,"topic_label":4265,"target_id":4266,"target_proposition":4267,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":4268,"indexable":63},660,"139437","People buried the idea of forming a federation with the PT, which was considered a defeat for the group represented by Minister Guilherme Boulos and by you.",4595.26,4605.7,"filiacao-partidaria","Party Membership","aea89da3-52e1-49b2-ac02-2d06b91bf635","form a party federation between PSOL and PT","Says they were part of the wing that criticized burying the discussion about federation.",{"idx":4270,"utterance_id":4271,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4272,"start_s":4273,"end_s":4274,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},661,"139438","It was suggested there could be a mass exodus that could implode the party.",4606.3,4609.42,{"idx":4276,"utterance_id":4277,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4278,"start_s":4279,"end_s":4280,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},662,"139439","I wanted to know whether you were in the camp that wanted to stay in the party or leave it.",4609.8,4614.28,{"idx":4282,"utterance_id":4283,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4284,"start_s":4285,"end_s":4286,"word_count":82,"indexable":14},663,"139440","I was in the camp that believed we needed to debate what our future was, because we evaluated it as a profoundly wrong decision.",4614.9,4622.36,{"idx":4288,"utterance_id":4289,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4290,"start_s":4291,"end_s":4292,"word_count":252,"indexable":14},664,"139441","Not only wrong for the party, but wrong for the left as a whole, which could have been strengthened within the Chamber of Deputies, in the Senate, and in the National Congress as a whole; it could have won seats in states where it currently has none.",4622.68,4636.84,{"idx":4294,"utterance_id":4295,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4296,"start_s":4297,"end_s":4298,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},665,"139442","There are six states where no party from the progressive camp — PSOL, PT, PCdoB, etc. — is running a candidate.",4637.16,4645.78,{"idx":4300,"utterance_id":4301,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4302,"start_s":4303,"end_s":4304,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},666,"139443","So we considered this a decision that is much more petty than it is elevating the discussions and contests we want to engage in.",4645.98,4652.86,{"idx":4306,"utterance_id":4307,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4308,"start_s":4309,"end_s":4310,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},667,"139444","I was in that wing.",4652.88,4653.66,{"idx":4312,"utterance_id":4313,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4314,"start_s":4315,"end_s":4316,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},668,"139445","In light of that decision we understood what our course should be.",4653.98,4658.34,{"idx":4318,"utterance_id":4319,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4320,"start_s":4321,"end_s":4322,"word_count":153,"indexable":14},669,"139446","But we understood that PSOL is an important party, a party that has taken up and brought very fundamental agendas to Brazil.",4658.62,4666.34,{"idx":4324,"utterance_id":4325,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4326,"start_s":4327,"end_s":4328,"word_count":293,"topic_slug":4264,"topic_label":4265,"target_id":4329,"target_proposition":4330,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1354,"rationale":4331,"indexable":63},670,"139447","It is a party that plays a hugely important role in the Brazilian left, and perhaps my departure, the departure of Minister Guilherme Boulos and other figures, could have ended up extinguishing the party, preventing it from reaching the electoral threshold ('cláusula de barreira').",4666.62,4681.76,"5b582a15-719f-4f80-bbbc-2da6e51b3ab6","remain in PSOL and strengthen the party","Defends staying to avoid extinguishing the party and to help in electoral contests.",{"idx":4333,"utterance_id":4334,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4335,"start_s":4336,"end_s":4337,"word_count":472,"indexable":14},671,"139448","So we understood that we had a role to fulfill, that we wanted to help continue to build and make this party move forward, perhaps rethink, re-examine its decisions, but that we had a... We have, not just had, but have, a respect for its trajectory, its journey, for what the people represent for the political field of the left, and that our permanence, including at this electoral moment, was profoundly important.",4682,4706,{"idx":4339,"utterance_id":4340,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4341,"start_s":4342,"end_s":4343,"word_count":366,"indexable":14},672,"139449","So I was in that camp, in the camp of discussion, of understanding the directions; we made our decision, we released a statement this week, and we are here helping this party that we strongly believe in to wage the contests against Bolsonarism, against the extreme right and against this whole agenda of hate that is in place.",4706.24,4722.22,{"idx":4345,"utterance_id":4346,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4347,"start_s":4348,"end_s":4349,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},673,"139450","About this dispute... Hi, sorry.",4722.78,4724.18,{"idx":4351,"utterance_id":4352,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4353,"start_s":4354,"end_s":4355,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},674,"139451","No, no, feel free.",4724.2,4725.12,{"idx":4357,"utterance_id":4358,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4359,"start_s":4360,"end_s":4361,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},675,"139452","Let's go, quickly.",4725.42,4725.88,{"idx":4363,"utterance_id":4364,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4365,"start_s":4366,"end_s":4367,"word_count":96,"indexable":14},676,"139453","About this dispute with Bolsonarism that you are talking about.",4725.9,4728.2,{"idx":4369,"utterance_id":4370,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4371,"start_s":4372,"end_s":4373,"word_count":130,"indexable":14},677,"139454","You said at the end of last year that Bolsonarism makes a very stupid electoral calculation.",4728.22,4732.8,{"idx":4375,"utterance_id":4376,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4377,"start_s":4378,"end_s":4379,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4382,"target_proposition":4383,"stance":4384,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":4385,"indexable":14},678,"139455","and that putting forward Flávio Bolsonaro wouldn't amount to anything, but he is numerically ahead of President Lula in the polls now and the campaign hasn't even really started.",4732.88,4742.34,"eleicoes-presidenciais","Presidential Elections","05a16a1b-22b5-4db2-86b7-651f4cb587b0","announce candidacy for the presidency","ambiguo","Downplays the launch but cites leadership in polls.",{"idx":4387,"utterance_id":4388,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4389,"start_s":4390,"end_s":4391,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},679,"139456","I think that already justifies quite a lot, right?",4742.82,4744.42,{"idx":4393,"utterance_id":4394,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4395,"start_s":4396,"end_s":4397,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4398,"target_proposition":4399,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":4400,"indexable":14},680,"139457","The campaign hasn't properly begun.",4744.44,4745.78,"abc17c8d-ada3-4e36-869a-973635abc6b2","start the electoral campaign","States that 'a campanha não começou' without calling for specific action.",{"idx":4402,"utterance_id":4403,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4404,"start_s":4405,"end_s":4406,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4407,"target_proposition":4408,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":4409,"indexable":14},681,"139458","Let's wait for the campaign to start.",4746.04,4747.04,"b15697ef-c558-4609-95c4-8ea6a70a9786","evaluate candidacies only after the campaign starts","Explicitly says 'vamos esperar a campanha começar'.",{"idx":4411,"utterance_id":4412,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4413,"start_s":4414,"end_s":4415,"word_count":114,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4416,"target_proposition":4417,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":1676,"rationale":4418,"indexable":14},682,"139459","But wasn't there also an underestimation of the size Flávio Bolsonaro could reach?",4747.12,4751.22,"5b56f01a-4082-4a8e-94da-ed1f4b2f2ce8","accurately assess the growth potential of candidacies","Asks about possible underestimation without taking a clear position.",{"idx":4420,"utterance_id":4421,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4422,"start_s":4423,"end_s":4424,"word_count":114,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4425,"target_proposition":4426,"stance":4384,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":4427,"indexable":14},683,"139460","Look, I think Flávio Bolsonaro may and may not maintain that level.",4751.72,4755.74,"05b5dfad-d5e9-4659-b367-b32d8ee74491","maintain current polling performance of the candidacy","Declares 'deve e não deve', indicating ambivalence about staying.",{"idx":4429,"utterance_id":4430,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4431,"start_s":4432,"end_s":4433,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},684,"139461","Your phrase was, 'it won't take hold.'",4756.48,4758.08,{"idx":4435,"utterance_id":4436,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4437,"start_s":4438,"end_s":4439,"word_count":147,"indexable":14},685,"139462","I think the president... Actually, my sentence is based on his own attempts to sell his candidacy.",4758.18,4763.62,{"idx":4441,"utterance_id":4442,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4443,"start_s":4444,"end_s":4445,"word_count":84,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4446,"target_proposition":4447,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":643,"rationale":4448,"indexable":63},686,"139463","Flávio Bolsonaro tried to negotiate his candidacy numerous times.",4763.88,4766.7,"dfb09bc8-4fb1-4259-bc8b-7c791e12a447","negotiate agreements for the candidacy","Reports that 'tentou negociar inúmeras vezes' - a factual claim.",{"idx":4450,"utterance_id":4451,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4452,"start_s":4453,"end_s":4454,"word_count":35,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4455,"target_proposition":4456,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":4457,"indexable":63},687,"139464","Flávio Bolsonaro did not present himself as a figure who was there to stay.",4766.92,4770.24,"704dc3b1-f2df-4c13-9ed3-fe27adf367e8","position oneself as a permanent figure in politics","States that he 'não se colocou como figura que vinha para ficar' - a description.",{"idx":4459,"utterance_id":4460,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4461,"start_s":4462,"end_s":4463,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":4464,"topic_label":4465,"target_id":4466,"target_proposition":4467,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":75,"rationale":4468,"indexable":14},688,"139465","We even saw... that he came out with amounts that were being demanded.",4770.52,4775.06,"combate-a-impunidade","Combating Impunity","0540f41c-a943-47c1-8503-1e981ffc584b","investigate and expose candidates' involvement with militias and rachadinha","Reports there were demands for payments without calling for immediate action.",{"idx":4470,"utterance_id":4471,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4472,"start_s":4473,"end_s":4474,"word_count":187,"topic_slug":4464,"topic_label":4465,"target_id":4466,"target_proposition":4467,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":1240,"rationale":4475,"indexable":63},689,"139466","And I think it's very difficult, Clarissa, for the candidate to keep sweeping under the rug the number of controversies that involve his name until the elections.",4775.28,4783.96,"Says it's hard to keep controversies 'debaixo do tapete', implying cases will be exposed.",{"idx":4477,"utterance_id":4478,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4479,"start_s":4480,"end_s":4481,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},690,"139467","And it's not simply a phrase on social media.",4784.18,4787.06,{"idx":4483,"utterance_id":4484,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4485,"start_s":4486,"end_s":4487,"word_count":114,"topic_slug":4464,"topic_label":4465,"target_id":4466,"target_proposition":4467,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":301,"rationale":4488,"indexable":63},691,"139468","It's militias, it's rachadinha, it's Queiroz and so many other cases that we will bring up.",4787.14,4792.6,"Lists 'milícia, rachadinha, Queiroz' and explicitly says 'nós vamos trazer'.",{"idx":4490,"utterance_id":4491,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4492,"start_s":4493,"end_s":4494,"word_count":35,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4495,"target_proposition":4496,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":4497,"indexable":63},692,"139469","On the other side, President Lula has a lot yet to present.",4792.64,4796.1,"74985b08-9834-43cb-a6e3-0370e12b277e","present government results in the electoral campaign","Says that 'o presidente tem muita entrega para ser apresentada' - a descriptive statement.",{"idx":4499,"utterance_id":4500,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4501,"start_s":4502,"end_s":4503,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4495,"target_proposition":4496,"stance":60,"stance_confidence":61,"rationale":4504,"indexable":63},693,"139470","There is still a lot to be told to society.",4796.3,4799,"Says that 'há muita coisa para ser contada' without proposing concrete action.",{"idx":4506,"utterance_id":4507,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4508,"start_s":4509,"end_s":4510,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},694,"139471","My assessment was exclusive.",4799.26,4801.3,{"idx":4512,"utterance_id":4513,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4514,"start_s":4515,"end_s":4516,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4517,"target_proposition":4518,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":313,"rationale":4519,"indexable":63},695,"139472","in light of the posture of a person who came to the public debate, who came to the political debate, but kept negotiating his candidacy all the time, selling it off, engaging in a level of blackmail.",4801.6,4813.2,"57d8cb08-b60a-49e7-a805-cc99d4d3adc8","ensure transparency in candidacy negotiations","Criticizes 'chantagismo' and negotiations, advocating transparent conduct.",{"idx":4521,"utterance_id":4522,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4523,"start_s":4524,"end_s":4525,"word_count":205,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4526,"target_proposition":4527,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":960,"rationale":4528,"indexable":63},696,"139473","Now, the numbers show that we will have a very close contest and we will need to mount a very forceful confrontation, but perhaps these numbers will change depending on the electoral race.",4813.52,4827.24,"2f51d5d9-b700-40f1-a3ad-30d8366ec64a","carry out a forceful confrontation in the electoral contest","Clearly states 'precisaremos fazer um enfrentamento bastante contundente'.",{"idx":4530,"utterance_id":4531,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4532,"start_s":4533,"end_s":4534,"word_count":43,"indexable":14},697,"139474","We'll be monitoring — poll, poll, episode.",4827.52,4830.42,{"idx":4536,"utterance_id":4537,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4538,"start_s":4539,"end_s":4540,"word_count":35,"topic_slug":4380,"topic_label":4381,"target_id":4541,"target_proposition":4542,"stance":300,"stance_confidence":75,"rationale":4543,"indexable":14},698,"139475","from episode to episode to ensure, to know whether this actually holds.",4830.52,4833.56,"3f59eeb5-63f5-4ebf-8dff-025356c0b102","monitor electoral polls throughout the campaign","Advises 'vamos acompanhando' the polls to check whether support is maintained.",{"idx":4545,"utterance_id":4546,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4547,"start_s":4548,"end_s":4549,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},699,"139476","Thank you very much.",4834.12,4834.86,{"idx":4551,"utterance_id":4552,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4553,"start_s":4554,"end_s":4555,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},700,"139477","Our time comes to an end.",4834.94,4836.26,{"idx":4557,"utterance_id":4558,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4559,"start_s":4560,"end_s":4561,"word_count":48,"indexable":14},701,"139478","Deputy Erika Hilton, thank you very much for your presence.",4836.52,4839.4,{"idx":4563,"utterance_id":4564,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4565,"start_s":4566,"end_s":4567,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},702,"139479","I'm the one who thanks you.",4839.42,4841.44,{"idx":4569,"utterance_id":4570,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4571,"start_s":4572,"end_s":4573,"word_count":65,"indexable":14},703,"139480","And we hope to see you here other times as well.",4841.46,4843.62,{"idx":4575,"utterance_id":4576,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4577,"start_s":4578,"end_s":4579,"word_count":187,"indexable":14},704,"139481","I also thank the colleagues who shared this interview with me, the journalism students, and our Eduardo Batistão, who now makes the program's final sign-off.",4843.66,4852.28,{"idx":4581,"utterance_id":4582,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4583,"start_s":4584,"end_s":4585,"word_count":141,"indexable":14},705,"139482","And thank you very much to those of you who have followed us until now; from this moment you are watching Metrópolis.",4861.6,4867.44,{"idx":4587,"utterance_id":4588,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4589,"start_s":4590,"end_s":4591,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},706,"139483","Good evening.",4867.76,4868.62,{"idx":4593,"utterance_id":4594,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":4595,"start_s":4596,"end_s":4597,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},707,"139484","See you next 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