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two sides here, the side of those who teach and the side of those who learn.",1601.28,1605.46,{"idx":1572,"utterance_id":1573,"speaker_name":8,"text":1574,"start_s":1575,"end_s":1576,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},245,"82966","I'll pass the floor to our next guest, who is Dylan, from São Paulo.",1605.88,1611.04,{"idx":1578,"utterance_id":1579,"speaker_name":8,"text":1580,"start_s":1581,"end_s":1582,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},246,"82967","Good morning!",1611.86,1612.62,{"idx":1584,"utterance_id":1585,"speaker_name":8,"text":1586,"start_s":1587,"end_s":1588,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},247,"82968","Good morning, how are you?",1613.08,1614.06,{"idx":1590,"utterance_id":1591,"speaker_name":8,"text":1592,"start_s":1593,"end_s":1594,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},248,"82969","My name is Dila, I'm 18 years old and I come from a community-run preparatory 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one I found to my home was recommended by a teacher and it was two buses to get there and back from my house to that prep course.",1637.82,1646.6,{"idx":1620,"utterance_id":1621,"speaker_name":8,"text":1622,"start_s":1623,"end_s":1624,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},253,"82974","And that was a difficulty for me because, at the time, I didn't earn very much.",1647.14,1650.86,{"idx":1626,"utterance_id":1627,"speaker_name":8,"text":1628,"start_s":1629,"end_s":1630,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},254,"82975","I was a young apprentice and, many times, that public transportation was paid for out of my own pocket.",1650.92,1656.56,{"idx":1632,"utterance_id":1633,"speaker_name":8,"text":1634,"start_s":1635,"end_s":1636,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},255,"82976","And, at that time, there wasn't any prep course near me.",1657.46,1660.98,{"idx":1638,"utterance_id":1639,"speaker_name":8,"text":1640,"start_s":1641,"end_s":1642,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},256,"82977","So, I would leave the North Zone, there in the Santana area, to go to Jaçanã.",1661.24,1665.02,{"idx":1644,"utterance_id":1645,"speaker_name":8,"text":1646,"start_s":1647,"end_s":1648,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},257,"82978","which was where my prep course was.",1665.46,1666.9,{"idx":1650,"utterance_id":1651,"speaker_name":8,"text":1652,"start_s":1653,"end_s":1654,"word_count":379,"indexable":13},258,"82979","And as the months went by, the prep course was very good, the teachers were great, and it so happened that CEPOP ran an action to give 200 reais scholarships to students, which made my transportation easier, because the financial discouragement was almost making me give up my dream, which was to enter a public university.",1667.66,1687.3,{"idx":1656,"utterance_id":1657,"speaker_name":8,"text":1658,"start_s":1659,"end_s":1660,"word_count":215,"indexable":13},259,"82980","As that financial support was sought by NGOs, by associations, it was something that allowed me today to be attending university; I 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students.",{"idx":1685,"utterance_id":1686,"speaker_name":8,"text":1687,"start_s":1688,"end_s":1689,"word_count":264,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":1690,"target_proposition":1691,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":1692,"indexable":191},263,"82984","So, I think training these students so they can achieve that dream, just as I was able to achieve it as well after a lot of effort, because studying cannot be a sacrifice, education is something that is a right.",1729.64,1740.7,"096f2bee-4856-47ae-a134-d7b604bee686","offer preparation programs for entry into higher education to students from the periphery","advocates training students from the periphery to enter university.",{"idx":1694,"utterance_id":1695,"speaker_name":8,"text":1696,"start_s":1697,"end_s":1698,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},264,"82985","that we feel we must obtain at all costs.",1741.22,1743.54,{"idx":1700,"utterance_id":1701,"speaker_name":8,"text":1702,"start_s":1703,"end_s":1704,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},265,"82986","And I think that's it.",1744.28,1745.08,{"idx":1706,"utterance_id":1707,"speaker_name":8,"text":1708,"start_s":1709,"end_s":1710,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},266,"82987","Thank you for the opportunity.",1745.14,1746.94,{"idx":1712,"utterance_id":1713,"speaker_name":8,"text":1714,"start_s":1715,"end_s":1716,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},267,"82988","Thank you, Dilan, for having shared your story with us.",1751.72,1755.28,{"idx":1718,"utterance_id":1719,"speaker_name":8,"text":1720,"start_s":1721,"end_s":1722,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},268,"82989","It's very important for us to see young people who managed to get there, and your remarks are very important.",1755.5,1761.22,{"idx":1724,"utterance_id":1725,"speaker_name":8,"text":1726,"start_s":1727,"end_s":1728,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},269,"82990","Education is a basic right and should not be something one has to suffer to obtain.",1761.64,1767.72,{"idx":1730,"utterance_id":1731,"speaker_name":8,"text":1732,"start_s":1733,"end_s":1734,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},270,"82991","Thank you very much for sharing with us.",1768.22,1770.16,{"idx":1736,"utterance_id":1737,"speaker_name":8,"text":1738,"start_s":1739,"end_s":1740,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},271,"82992","Do you want to ask anything?",1770.2,1771.86,{"idx":1742,"utterance_id":1743,"speaker_name":8,"text":1744,"start_s":1745,"end_s":1746,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},272,"82993","Let's go to our next guest, who is Levi Castro, here from São Paulo.",1774.22,1779.68,{"idx":1748,"utterance_id":1749,"speaker_name":8,"text":1750,"start_s":1751,"end_s":1752,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},273,"82994","Good morning, everyone.",1780.64,1781.54,{"idx":1754,"utterance_id":1755,"speaker_name":8,"text":1756,"start_s":1757,"end_s":1758,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},274,"82995","I'm 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course.",1793.16,1797.14,{"idx":1790,"utterance_id":1791,"speaker_name":8,"text":1792,"start_s":1793,"end_s":1794,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},280,"83001","It was a teaching degree.",1797.3,1798.26,{"idx":1796,"utterance_id":1797,"speaker_name":8,"text":1798,"start_s":1799,"end_s":1800,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},281,"83002","And it was also the year I became a father, when Theo was born.",1798.7,1800.92,{"idx":1802,"utterance_id":1803,"speaker_name":8,"text":1804,"start_s":1805,"end_s":1806,"word_count":331,"indexable":13},282,"83003","I studied and worked, and then, when February of 1922 arrived, while making the commute between work and university — I live in the East Zone of São Paulo, I have the issue of transportation, mobility — I had a traffic accident in which I collided with a bus and I became a person with a 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rehabilitation.",1884.44,1891.86,{"idx":1855,"utterance_id":1856,"speaker_name":8,"text":1857,"start_s":1858,"end_s":1859,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},290,"83011","Dylan spoke about occupational therapy and it is very important in the rehabilitation process.",1892.76,1898.2,{"idx":1861,"utterance_id":1862,"speaker_name":8,"text":1863,"start_s":1864,"end_s":1865,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},291,"83012","Nowadays I study event management at a technology college in São Paulo.",1899.02,1903.1,{"idx":1867,"utterance_id":1868,"speaker_name":8,"text":1869,"start_s":1870,"end_s":1871,"word_count":161,"indexable":13},292,"83013","It's different to realize that before I had the barriers of racism in my school life and nowadays there are also the barriers of 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past them.",1936.26,1957.28,{"idx":1888,"utterance_id":1889,"speaker_name":8,"text":1890,"start_s":1891,"end_s":1892,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},295,"83016","So, nowadays I'm 28 years old, I'm in university to graduate in event management, and I understand that this whole educational journey is very important to me.",1957.96,1972.06,{"idx":1894,"utterance_id":1895,"speaker_name":8,"text":1896,"start_s":1897,"end_s":1898,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},296,"83017","Also my place, as a student, a black man with a disability, in this space.",1973.8,1979.48,{"idx":1900,"utterance_id":1901,"speaker_name":8,"text":1902,"start_s":1903,"end_s":1904,"word_count":133,"topic_slug":449,"topic_label":450,"target_id":1905,"target_proposition":1906,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":1907,"indexable":191},297,"83018","I believe the current management in the state government is failing significantly and we can move forward and be 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impossible, because we won't stand another four years of this kind of technicism, technocratism.",2431.48,2445.78,{"idx":2416,"utterance_id":2417,"speaker_name":8,"text":2418,"start_s":2419,"end_s":2420,"word_count":246,"indexable":13},381,"83102","You have to enter a classroom, you have to be technical with the student, that he can only go to the bathroom in the second and the fifth lesson of the day, out of nine lessons.",2446.4,2456.54,{"idx":2422,"utterance_id":2423,"speaker_name":8,"text":2424,"start_s":2425,"end_s":2426,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},382,"83103","And you have to ask like, is it very urgent?",2459.16,2461.54,{"idx":2428,"utterance_id":2429,"speaker_name":8,"text":2430,"start_s":2431,"end_s":2432,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},383,"83104","Why can't you 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specialists?",2506.06,2513.08,{"idx":2507,"utterance_id":2508,"speaker_name":8,"text":2509,"start_s":2510,"end_s":2511,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},396,"83117","What is the point of me doing a specialization?",2513.12,2515.78,{"idx":2513,"utterance_id":2514,"speaker_name":8,"text":2515,"start_s":2516,"end_s":2517,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},397,"83118","Only to then slaughter pigs and sell sausage in the butcher shop?",2516.8,2519.88,{"idx":2519,"utterance_id":2520,"speaker_name":8,"text":2521,"start_s":2522,"end_s":2523,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},398,"83119","Only if that's the case.",2520.72,2521.16,{"idx":2525,"utterance_id":2526,"speaker_name":8,"text":2527,"start_s":2528,"end_s":2529,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},399,"83120","I'll have to do a specialization in butchery, I don't know.",2522.46,2526.34,{"idx":2531,"utterance_id":2532,"speaker_name":8,"text":2533,"start_s":2534,"end_s":2535,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},400,"83121","So, two things I'm not afraid 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terminated.",2545.68,2547.64,{"idx":2567,"utterance_id":2568,"speaker_name":8,"text":2569,"start_s":2570,"end_s":2571,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},406,"83127","Then again, every year it is terminated anyway.",2547.68,2549.64,{"idx":2573,"utterance_id":2574,"speaker_name":8,"text":2575,"start_s":2576,"end_s":2577,"word_count":133,"indexable":13},407,"83128","And to make the PA condition worse... Because we needed to have a bond with the student, who is PCD.",2550.36,2556.64,{"idx":2579,"utterance_id":2580,"speaker_name":8,"text":2581,"start_s":2582,"end_s":2583,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":424,"topic_label":425,"target_id":2584,"target_proposition":2585,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":2586,"rationale":2587,"indexable":13},408,"83129","The contract is six months.",2558.06,2559.84,"ffedfee5-ad4b-4006-869d-f95b3e106bd4","implement hiring of teachers through public competitive exams with stable employment",0.76,"mentions six-month contracts and loss of positions, criticizing precariousness.",{"idx":2589,"utterance_id":2590,"speaker_name":8,"text":2591,"start_s":2592,"end_s":2593,"word_count":171,"indexable":13},409,"83130","You can't talk, Haddad, like we as human beings, and like me as a teacher trained in codes and languages, I can't imagine an adjective that fits the resolution.",2562.6,2576.62,{"idx":2595,"utterance_id":2596,"speaker_name":8,"text":2597,"start_s":2598,"end_s":2599,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},410,"83131","Where does this resolution come from?",2578.26,2579.76,{"idx":2601,"utterance_id":2602,"speaker_name":8,"text":2603,"start_s":2604,"end_s":2605,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},411,"83132","Who can review this resolution and allow, at least, this 13 of 1 of 2026.",2581.72,2588.1,{"idx":2607,"utterance_id":2608,"speaker_name":8,"text":2609,"start_s":2610,"end_s":2611,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},412,"83133","I leave this question here for all who know the date of the governor of São Paulo.",2588.8,2597.22,{"idx":2613,"utterance_id":2614,"speaker_name":8,"text":2615,"start_s":2616,"end_s":2617,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},413,"83134","First round, no second round.",2597.76,2600.06,{"idx":2619,"utterance_id":2620,"speaker_name":8,"text":2621,"start_s":2622,"end_s":2623,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},414,"83135","Sabrina, I want to thank you for your speech here.",2608.28,2610.7,{"idx":2625,"utterance_id":2626,"speaker_name":8,"text":2627,"start_s":2628,"end_s":2629,"word_count":150,"indexable":13},415,"83136","You bring very important things that are, firstly, the appreciation of the professional, the teacher, and a very important issue which is accessibility.",2610.76,2622,{"idx":2631,"utterance_id":2632,"speaker_name":8,"text":2633,"start_s":2634,"end_s":2635,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},416,"83137","I am the mother of an autistic child and this worries me personally.",2622.24,2626.26,{"idx":2637,"utterance_id":2638,"speaker_name":8,"text":2639,"start_s":2640,"end_s":2641,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},417,"83138","How is it going to be?",2626.9,2627.74,{"idx":2643,"utterance_id":2644,"speaker_name":8,"text":2645,"start_s":2646,"end_s":2647,"word_count":150,"indexable":13},418,"83139","And I imagine that other mothers, other fathers of autistic children who will enter the study of state education also have this concern.",2628.04,2638.32,{"idx":2649,"utterance_id":2650,"speaker_name":8,"text":2651,"start_s":2652,"end_s":2653,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},419,"83140","It is really very important to hear your words.",2638.88,2641.14,{"idx":2655,"utterance_id":2656,"speaker_name":8,"text":2657,"start_s":2658,"end_s":2659,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},420,"83141","I will now pass the floor to Luciana Alves and to André Luiz Martins, from Franca.",2642.44,2648.98,{"idx":2661,"utterance_id":2662,"speaker_name":8,"text":9,"start_s":2663,"end_s":2664,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},421,"83142",2651.72,2653.58,{"idx":2666,"utterance_id":2667,"speaker_name":8,"text":2668,"start_s":2669,"end_s":2670,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},422,"83143","I am Luciana, I live in Franca.",2654.38,2656.58,{"idx":2672,"utterance_id":2673,"speaker_name":8,"text":2674,"start_s":2675,"end_s":2676,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},423,"83144","I am André's 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inclusion.",2688.64,2693.08,{"idx":2702,"utterance_id":2703,"speaker_name":8,"text":2704,"start_s":2705,"end_s":2706,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},428,"83149","However, André entered in the middle of 2021 at the school, in seventh grade.",2695.76,2703.96,{"idx":2708,"utterance_id":2709,"speaker_name":8,"text":2710,"start_s":2711,"end_s":2712,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},429,"83150","And then, in eighth grade, he had an interlocutor teacher accompanying him in the classroom.",2705.02,2710.64,{"idx":2714,"utterance_id":2715,"speaker_name":8,"text":2716,"start_s":2717,"end_s":2718,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},430,"83151","And then, in ninth grade, 2023, with the incoming of the new government, that professional was refused for him.",2711.78,2719.4,{"idx":2720,"utterance_id":2721,"speaker_name":8,"text":2722,"start_s":2723,"end_s":2724,"word_count":240,"indexable":13},431,"83152","But then the school organized, put all the PCD and neurodivergent students in the same classroom, in the same grade, and put a specialized assistant teacher to be able to assist them in the classroom.",2720.78,2738.22,{"idx":2726,"utterance_id":2727,"speaker_name":8,"text":2728,"start_s":2729,"end_s":2730,"word_count":133,"indexable":13},432,"83153","And then we continued the path, André was doing very well, and suddenly Tarcísio issues a resolution.",2739.34,2748.9,{"idx":2732,"utterance_id":2733,"speaker_name":8,"text":2734,"start_s":2735,"end_s":2736,"word_count":54,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2497,"target_proposition":2498,"stance":343,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":2737,"indexable":191},433,"83154","saying that he will replace these specialized teachers with untrained professionals.",2749.52,2755.46,"reports a resolution intending to replace specialized teachers, criticized in 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suffering.",2769.02,2774.2,{"idx":2754,"utterance_id":2755,"speaker_name":8,"text":2756,"start_s":2757,"end_s":2758,"word_count":173,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2759,"target_proposition":2760,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":2761,"indexable":191},436,"83157","because, as the teacher aptly put it, these children, adolescents, need that bond with these professionals, with these teachers, and they have the right to have that pedagogical support.",2774.8,2789.24,"ff98c28c-8023-488a-943f-78ac23271ba2","guarantee specialized pedagogical support for students with disabilities","asserts that students have the right to a specialized pedagogical relationship.",{"idx":2763,"utterance_id":2764,"speaker_name":8,"text":2765,"start_s":2766,"end_s":2767,"word_count":270,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2744,"target_proposition":2745,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":1997,"rationale":2768,"indexable":191},437,"83158","So, we need them to be specialized teachers, because a lead teacher in a classroom will not be able to handle 40 students, 35 students, and still adapt the material... to be able to make that inclusion with the special education student.",2789.84,2809.4,"explicitly states that 'precisamos que sejam professores especializados'.",{"idx":2770,"utterance_id":2771,"speaker_name":8,"text":2772,"start_s":2773,"end_s":2774,"word_count":173,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2775,"target_proposition":2776,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":2777,"indexable":191},438,"83159","So, for example, they are studying the Russian Revolution, they have the right to study the Russian Revolution, each one to the extent and at the level they can reach.",2809.74,2820.44,"fe7fab73-271d-4013-aedf-41a5c77a01dd","ensure access to adapted curriculum for students with disabilities","defends each student's right to access content according to their 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Paulo.",2840.14,2845.94,{"idx":2803,"utterance_id":2804,"speaker_name":8,"text":2805,"start_s":2806,"end_s":2807,"word_count":234,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2808,"target_proposition":2809,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":202,"rationale":2810,"indexable":191},443,"83164","Today, we are the Movement in Defense of Special Education, which is in several cities, and we are discussing how we can confront these difficulties that the current government has been bringing to us.",2846.6,2861.8,"5b702641-f538-4aae-b331-1f5013bd21b7","implement public inclusive education policies for students with disabilities","speaks of confronting difficulties caused by the current government and calls for inclusive policies.",{"idx":2812,"utterance_id":2813,"speaker_name":8,"text":2814,"start_s":2815,"end_s":2816,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},444,"83165","So, we have already done marches, we have already done petitions, we have already been to Seduc, we have already made many moves to try to achieve our goal.",2862.72,2878.18,{"idx":2818,"utterance_id":2819,"speaker_name":8,"text":2820,"start_s":2821,"end_s":2822,"word_count":67,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2808,"target_proposition":2809,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":2823,"indexable":191},445,"83166","But this government does not look at us, does not dialogue with us.",2878.26,2883.2,"denounces the government's lack of dialogue and demands attention to families.",{"idx":2825,"utterance_id":2826,"speaker_name":8,"text":2827,"start_s":2828,"end_s":2829,"word_count":69,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2808,"target_proposition":2809,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":2830,"indexable":191},446,"83167","Unfortunately, it wants to make these special education students invisible.",2884.84,2890.38,"accuses the government of rendering students invisible and demands inclusion.",{"idx":2832,"utterance_id":2833,"speaker_name":8,"text":2834,"start_s":2835,"end_s":2836,"word_count":133,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2837,"target_proposition":2838,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":202,"rationale":2839,"indexable":191},447,"83168","This is very sad, because the State of São Paulo was achieving progress in this regard, and now it has regressed a lot.",2891.26,2902.32,"b8bc7349-1f20-461f-bb66-ba7e104df2f6","resume and strengthen public inclusion policies in special education","points to a regression by the State and implies the need to resume prior policies.",{"idx":2841,"utterance_id":2842,"speaker_name":8,"text":2843,"start_s":2844,"end_s":2845,"word_count":133,"indexable":13},448,"83169","In the end, he didn't succeed, the courts blocked him from replacing these teachers with that outsourced workforce he was going to privatize.",2903.14,2912.74,{"idx":2847,"utterance_id":2848,"speaker_name":8,"text":2849,"start_s":2850,"end_s":2851,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},449,"83170","But he did not give up.",2913.88,2914.92,{"idx":2853,"utterance_id":2854,"speaker_name":8,"text":2855,"start_s":2856,"end_s":2857,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2744,"target_proposition":2745,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":2858,"indexable":191},450,"83171","He wants it no matter what, and in some places he did end up replacing teachers and put caregivers.",2915.88,2922.46,"criticizes replacing teachers with caregivers and demands specialized teachers.",{"idx":2860,"utterance_id":2861,"speaker_name":8,"text":2862,"start_s":2863,"end_s":2864,"word_count":97,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2865,"target_proposition":2866,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":840,"rationale":2867,"indexable":191},451,"83172","It's not that we do without caregivers, let's be clear about that.",2922.92,2927.74,"34e0d63c-3613-47a3-8492-aa979cfcd478","ensure school staff with specialized teachers and caregivers for special education","acknowledges caregivers' importance but insists on teachers for pedagogical roles.",{"idx":2869,"utterance_id":2870,"speaker_name":8,"text":2871,"start_s":2872,"end_s":2873,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},452,"83173","Caregivers are also very important in the school environment.",2927.92,2931.04,{"idx":2875,"utterance_id":2876,"speaker_name":8,"text":2877,"start_s":2878,"end_s":2879,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},453,"83174","For those children who need care, to go to the bathroom, to eat, for all of that.",2931.42,2939.34,{"idx":2881,"utterance_id":2882,"speaker_name":8,"text":2883,"start_s":2884,"end_s":2885,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},454,"83175","But they can't make that pedagogical bridge that only the teacher... is capable of making.",2939.74,2946.36,{"idx":2887,"utterance_id":2888,"speaker_name":8,"text":2889,"start_s":2890,"end_s":2891,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},455,"83176","And they also are not able to work on behavioral issues.",2946.9,2951.06,{"idx":2893,"utterance_id":2894,"speaker_name":8,"text":2895,"start_s":2896,"end_s":2897,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},456,"83177","It's a noisy environment, as one teacher already mentioned here.",2951.74,2955.14,{"idx":2899,"utterance_id":2900,"speaker_name":8,"text":2901,"start_s":2902,"end_s":2903,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},457,"83178","And then the autistic person feels bothered.",2955.9,2960.34,{"idx":2905,"utterance_id":2906,"speaker_name":8,"text":2907,"start_s":2908,"end_s":2909,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},458,"83179","Sometimes he needs to leave the classroom for a bit.",2960.72,2963.56,{"idx":2911,"utterance_id":2912,"speaker_name":8,"text":2913,"start_s":2914,"end_s":2915,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},459,"83180","He needs to breathe to avoid a crisis, to be able to return to that environment.",2964.38,2970.78,{"idx":2917,"utterance_id":2918,"speaker_name":8,"text":2919,"start_s":2920,"end_s":2921,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},460,"83181","So, we suffer a lot.",2971.24,2974.26,{"idx":2923,"utterance_id":2924,"speaker_name":8,"text":2925,"start_s":2926,"end_s":2927,"word_count":133,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":2928,"target_proposition":2929,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":2930,"indexable":191},461,"83182","And, as if the malice had no end, he decided to make those contracts be renewed every six months.",2975.8,2985.74,"a47f7995-f60e-4083-8719-f3ce7e316a47","stabilize employment ties via permanent contracts for special education professionals","criticizes semiannual contract renewals and demands stable contracts.",{"idx":2932,"utterance_id":2933,"speaker_name":8,"text":2934,"start_s":2935,"end_s":2936,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},462,"83183","So, that employment bond no longer exists.",2987.02,2990.7,{"idx":2938,"utterance_id":2939,"speaker_name":8,"text":2940,"start_s":2941,"end_s":2942,"word_count":258,"indexable":13},463,"83184","Every six months, he makes a new assignment, in our view, for atypical families, so that... A specialized teacher in the classroom doesn't work, because every time that bond is broken, our children have crises.",2991.76,3007.76,{"idx":2944,"utterance_id":2945,"speaker_name":8,"text":2946,"start_s":2947,"end_s":2948,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},464,"83185","I have a child from Peruíbe who left school.",3008.5,3014.84,{"idx":2950,"utterance_id":2951,"speaker_name":8,"text":2952,"start_s":2953,"end_s":2954,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},465,"83186","The family is already a family in a situation of vulnerability.",3015.92,3019.16,{"idx":2956,"utterance_id":2957,"speaker_name":8,"text":2958,"start_s":2959,"end_s":2960,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},466,"83187","The child doesn't return to school, he couldn't go back.",3019.66,3023.16,{"idx":2962,"utterance_id":2963,"speaker_name":8,"text":2964,"start_s":2965,"end_s":2966,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},467,"83188","with the change of that teacher.",3023.86,3025.38,{"idx":2968,"utterance_id":2969,"speaker_name":8,"text":2970,"start_s":2971,"end_s":2972,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},468,"83189","I mean, that leaves the family in an even more vulnerable situation.",3025.76,3029.4,{"idx":2974,"utterance_id":2975,"speaker_name":8,"text":2976,"start_s":2977,"end_s":2978,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},469,"83190","I have a child from Assis who fled from school.",3030.12,3032.98,{"idx":2980,"utterance_id":2981,"speaker_name":8,"text":2982,"start_s":2983,"end_s":2984,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},470,"83191","She arrived, didn't find the specialized teacher there, ran out and fled the school.",3033.68,3038.76,{"idx":2986,"utterance_id":2987,"speaker_name":8,"text":2988,"start_s":2989,"end_s":2990,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},471,"83192","It was an uproar.",3040.02,3040.52,{"idx":2992,"utterance_id":2993,"speaker_name":8,"text":2994,"start_s":2995,"end_s":2996,"word_count":179,"indexable":13},472,"83193","And I have a child from Franca, who has ASD and OCD, and ODD, she has diagnosed ASD and ODD, and she attempted against her own life.",3040.62,3051.86,{"idx":2998,"utterance_id":2999,"speaker_name":8,"text":3000,"start_s":3001,"end_s":3002,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},473,"83194","So, people, it's a very serious thing that's happening in our state.",3052.84,3058.22,{"idx":3004,"utterance_id":3005,"speaker_name":8,"text":3006,"start_s":3007,"end_s":3008,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},474,"83195","This lack of attention.",3058.94,3060.22,{"idx":3010,"utterance_id":3011,"speaker_name":8,"text":3012,"start_s":3013,"end_s":3014,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3015,"target_proposition":3016,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":3017,"indexable":191},475,"83196","to people with disabilities, to students with disabilities, to neurodivergent students, to families, this lack of listening.",3060.54,3068.3,"ecee4354-5208-433c-b127-d5e44de97c34","ensure family participation in formulating special education policies","complains of a lack of listening to families and requests inclusion in decision-making.",{"idx":3019,"utterance_id":3020,"speaker_name":8,"text":3021,"start_s":3022,"end_s":3023,"word_count":171,"indexable":13},476,"83197","I am very grateful for the opportunity to be here and to be heard and to be able to speak on behalf of these families about how much we are suffering and how anxious we are.",3068.72,3078.28,{"idx":3025,"utterance_id":3026,"speaker_name":8,"text":3027,"start_s":3028,"end_s":3029,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3030,"target_proposition":3031,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":3032,"indexable":191},477,"83198","So we want a government that looks in a humane way at these children, that believes in inclusion, that believes that they are indeed capable of learning.",3078.76,3089.88,"cca2b796-875c-40e0-9483-b5a70223c8e6","implement humanized public policies for inclusive education for students with disabilities","asks the government to look humanely and believe in inclusion.",{"idx":3034,"utterance_id":3035,"speaker_name":8,"text":3036,"start_s":3037,"end_s":3038,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},478,"83199","We, atypical mothers and fathers, dream of our children as adults, autonomous, able to make their own choices.",3090.64,3100.7,{"idx":3040,"utterance_id":3041,"speaker_name":8,"text":3042,"start_s":3043,"end_s":3044,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},479,"83200","And school is fundamental in that construction.",3101.36,3104.44,{"idx":3046,"utterance_id":3047,"speaker_name":8,"text":3048,"start_s":3049,"end_s":3050,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},480,"83201","And finally, I want to say that I only believe that a society will be, in fact, inclusive.",3105.76,3112.92,{"idx":3052,"utterance_id":3053,"speaker_name":8,"text":3054,"start_s":3055,"end_s":3056,"word_count":331,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3057,"target_proposition":3058,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":3059,"indexable":191},481,"83202","fully inclusive when school is inclusive, when our children with disabilities, our neurodivergent children, when they can live alongside typical children and those children have the privilege of living with our children and being able to understand those differences, because, after all, we are all different.",3113.42,3139.64,"057fd181-8813-47cb-aa97-e8953f1324f4","make schools truly inclusive for students with disabilities","argues that an inclusive school is a condition for an inclusive society.",{"idx":3061,"utterance_id":3062,"speaker_name":8,"text":3063,"start_s":3064,"end_s":3065,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},482,"83203","None of us are the same.",3140.3,3141.58,{"idx":3067,"utterance_id":3068,"speaker_name":8,"text":3069,"start_s":3070,"end_s":3071,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3072,"target_proposition":3073,"stance":343,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":3074,"indexable":191},483,"83204","You can't have education by platform, by slide, that takes didactics away from the teacher, that takes interest away from the student, that reaches no one, much less the special education audience.",3141.76,3155.36,"b85e0f71-f122-40b9-ab87-e3fd81f5f66c","offer free information technology courses and use digital platforms (AI, gamification) in schools","criticizes 'educação de plataforma' that removes the teacher's didactics.",{"idx":3076,"utterance_id":3077,"speaker_name":8,"text":3078,"start_s":3079,"end_s":3080,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},484,"83205","And, so, to conclude, André wants to make some suggestions, Haddad, for your government, regarding materials, regarding courses, right, André?",3156.32,3166.5,{"idx":3082,"utterance_id":3083,"speaker_name":8,"text":3084,"start_s":3085,"end_s":3086,"word_count":20,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3072,"target_proposition":3073,"stance":343,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":3087,"indexable":191},485,"83206","I think the materials with this new Taecísio government were kind of robotized.",3167.92,3174.86,"calls the material 'robotizado' and criticizes the mechanization of teaching.",{"idx":3089,"utterance_id":3090,"speaker_name":8,"text":3091,"start_s":3092,"end_s":3093,"word_count":240,"indexable":13},486,"83207","Because, when I studied in middle school, I think in 2021, when I was in seventh grade, the material was formulated, prepared by professionals, like PhDs, masters from USP, from Unicamp, from the specific subject.",3175.48,3190.2,{"idx":3095,"utterance_id":3096,"speaker_name":8,"text":3097,"start_s":3098,"end_s":3099,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},487,"83208","So, there were links, URLs, QR Codes for... audiovisual works, books.",3190.64,3196.76,{"idx":3101,"utterance_id":3102,"speaker_name":8,"text":3103,"start_s":3104,"end_s":3105,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},488,"83209","So, the student had the interest to want to see the subject, the theme, the school's content.",3196.84,3202.82,{"idx":3107,"utterance_id":3108,"speaker_name":8,"text":3109,"start_s":3110,"end_s":3111,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},489,"83210","And now, with the arrival of slides, of platforms, everything was mechanized.",3203.36,3208.14,{"idx":3113,"utterance_id":3114,"speaker_name":8,"text":3115,"start_s":3116,"end_s":3117,"word_count":85,"indexable":13},490,"83211","And it seems they took the old material from USP and fed it into an artificial intelligence and made a mishmash.",3208.7,3216.62,{"idx":3119,"utterance_id":3120,"speaker_name":8,"text":3121,"start_s":3122,"end_s":3123,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},491,"83212","So, it's very mechanical.",3216.68,3218.96,{"idx":3125,"utterance_id":3126,"speaker_name":8,"text":3127,"start_s":3128,"end_s":3129,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},492,"83213","As Paulo Freire would say, it's a banking education.",3219.9,3222.34,{"idx":3131,"utterance_id":3132,"speaker_name":8,"text":3133,"start_s":3134,"end_s":3135,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},493,"83214","The teacher throws the material at the student, he absorbs it and understands.",3223.06,3226.64,{"idx":3137,"utterance_id":3138,"speaker_name":8,"text":3139,"start_s":3140,"end_s":3141,"word_count":234,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3142,"target_proposition":3143,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":1997,"rationale":3144,"indexable":191},494,"83215","I think the government should implement courses, training for teachers, regardless of category, to be able to deal with special education students, to promote real inclusion in classrooms.",3232.02,3246.68,"ffd2d22a-ac2b-4405-83bd-d526c6f8fb73","implement continuing training for teachers on inclusive education","directly proposes courses and training to address special education.",{"idx":3146,"utterance_id":3147,"speaker_name":8,"text":3148,"start_s":3149,"end_s":3150,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},495,"83216","May I just ask a quick question as well, following Haddad's example?",3253.86,3258.98,{"idx":3152,"utterance_id":3153,"speaker_name":8,"text":3154,"start_s":3155,"end_s":3156,"word_count":353,"indexable":13},496,"83217","From all the testimonies that were given, all very touching and, at the same time, significant, and with your testimonies now, one thing you can sense is the... the demand for this inclusive education, because for a long time, at the start of adopting this proposal, there was that idea of segregation.",3264.84,3293.46,{"idx":3158,"utterance_id":3159,"speaker_name":8,"text":3160,"start_s":3161,"end_s":3162,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},497,"83218","Seeing they couldn't segregate, they started to deform... What would inclusive education be?",3294.78,3303.7,{"idx":3164,"utterance_id":3165,"speaker_name":8,"text":3166,"start_s":3167,"end_s":3168,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},498,"83219","Because, in fact, it has a very large capacity to respond when practiced.",3303.88,3309.52,{"idx":3170,"utterance_id":3171,"speaker_name":8,"text":3172,"start_s":3173,"end_s":3174,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},499,"83220","So, the question I ask is this.",3309.58,3311.5,{"idx":3176,"utterance_id":3177,"speaker_name":8,"text":3178,"start_s":3179,"end_s":3180,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},500,"83221","The parents' demand is for inclusive education to continue, even with this complexity.",3312.36,3318.98,{"idx":3182,"utterance_id":3183,"speaker_name":8,"text":3184,"start_s":3185,"end_s":3186,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},501,"83222","Is that right, Marina?",3320.28,3321.86,{"idx":3188,"utterance_id":3189,"speaker_name":8,"text":3190,"start_s":3191,"end_s":3192,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},502,"83223","We believe that inclusive education, special education students need to be in regular schools.",3321.96,3330.78,{"idx":3194,"utterance_id":3195,"speaker_name":8,"text":3196,"start_s":3197,"end_s":3198,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},503,"83224","And that, yes, we promote that.",3332.48,3336.12,{"idx":3200,"utterance_id":3201,"speaker_name":8,"text":3202,"start_s":3203,"end_s":3204,"word_count":173,"indexable":13},504,"83225","For example, in our actions we organized a visit to the public defender's office and we established a defenders' protocol to file actions to obtain the teachers.",3336.48,3347.38,{"idx":3206,"utterance_id":3207,"speaker_name":8,"text":3208,"start_s":3209,"end_s":3210,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},505,"83226","Regrettably, this is in the Law of Basic Guidelines, it's in the LBI and it is not complied with by the State.",3347.84,3353.94,{"idx":3212,"utterance_id":3213,"speaker_name":8,"text":3214,"start_s":3215,"end_s":3216,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},506,"83227","We obtain specialized teachers through legal action.",3354.28,3357.54,{"idx":3218,"utterance_id":3219,"speaker_name":8,"text":3220,"start_s":3221,"end_s":3222,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},507,"83228","And even with legal action, he wants to replace teachers with professionals without training.",3358.22,3363.82,{"idx":3224,"utterance_id":3225,"speaker_name":8,"text":3226,"start_s":3227,"end_s":3228,"word_count":173,"indexable":13},508,"83229","So, yes, we, atypical families, want our children in regular schools, we believe that the State of São Paulo is a very wealthy state, has the capacity to provide this.",3364.34,3375.46,{"idx":3230,"utterance_id":3231,"speaker_name":8,"text":3232,"start_s":3233,"end_s":3234,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},509,"83230","How can we believe that a governor would withdraw billions from education and want to save money on special education?",3376.32,3385.18,{"idx":3236,"utterance_id":3237,"speaker_name":8,"text":3238,"start_s":3239,"end_s":3240,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},510,"83231","Which is something so important.",3385.92,3387.52,{"idx":3242,"utterance_id":3243,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3244,"start_s":3245,"end_s":3246,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},511,"83232","I will also ask André a question.",3390.74,3394.16,{"idx":3248,"utterance_id":3249,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3250,"start_s":3251,"end_s":3252,"word_count":258,"indexable":13},512,"83233","André, some time ago, when I was at the Ministry of Education, President Lula determined, even at the prompting of the educators there at the Ministry, that the textbook program, which is a Brazilian program recognized around the world, recognized worldwide.",3394.8,3418.26,{"idx":3254,"utterance_id":3255,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3256,"start_s":3257,"end_s":3258,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},513,"83234","MEC is the largest buyer of books in the world.",3419.18,3422.46,{"idx":3260,"utterance_id":3261,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3262,"start_s":3263,"end_s":3264,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},514,"83235","That it be extended to high school.",3423.92,3425.58,{"idx":3266,"utterance_id":3267,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3268,"start_s":3269,"end_s":3270,"word_count":173,"indexable":13},515,"83236","So high school students began to receive the entire didactic collection of all subjects, for first, second, third year.",3426,3433.86,{"idx":3272,"utterance_id":3273,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3274,"start_s":3275,"end_s":3276,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},516,"83237","Those materials no longer reach the schools?",3434.72,3437.36,{"idx":3278,"utterance_id":3279,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3280,"start_s":3281,"end_s":3282,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},517,"83238","Is it only via platform, slide?",3437.5,3440.1,{"idx":3284,"utterance_id":3285,"speaker_name":8,"text":3286,"start_s":3287,"end_s":3288,"word_count":69,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3289,"target_proposition":3290,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":3291,"indexable":191},518,"83239","I think some physical materials, but not 100%.",3440.16,3445.8,"e0818c4e-862d-410b-9b0e-c51cbd1066f2","provide printed PNLD teaching materials for high school","reports that some physical materials still exist, but the majority migrated online.",{"idx":3293,"utterance_id":3294,"speaker_name":8,"text":3295,"start_s":3296,"end_s":3297,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},519,"83240","Most are migrating more to 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the material, it's no longer available.",3475.54,3480.04,{"idx":3322,"utterance_id":3323,"speaker_name":8,"text":3324,"start_s":3325,"end_s":3326,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},524,"83245","There's only, because I had from previous years, and now it's the student book.",3480.56,3486.24,{"idx":3328,"utterance_id":3329,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3330,"start_s":3331,"end_s":3332,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},525,"83246","Now, your testimony is very relevant to us here.",3487.52,3491.3,{"idx":3334,"utterance_id":3335,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3336,"start_s":3337,"end_s":3338,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},526,"83247","Very important that you bring this to our knowledge.",3491.88,3494.98,{"idx":3340,"utterance_id":3341,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":248,"start_s":3342,"end_s":3343,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},527,"83248",3495.64,3496.04,{"idx":3345,"utterance_id":3346,"speaker_name":8,"text":3347,"start_s":3348,"end_s":3349,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},528,"83249","Dear Haddad, I just want to add here a note on digital platforms.",3503.54,3508.82,{"idx":3351,"utterance_id":3352,"speaker_name":8,"text":3353,"start_s":3354,"end_s":3355,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},529,"83250","The PNLD... which is the National Textbook Program.",3510.68,3514.16,{"idx":3357,"utterance_id":3358,"speaker_name":8,"text":3359,"start_s":3360,"end_s":3361,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},530,"83251","It is a very important program, with great authors.",3515.32,3519.7,{"idx":3363,"utterance_id":3364,"speaker_name":8,"text":3365,"start_s":3366,"end_s":3367,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},531,"83252","I had a book from last year, I forgot the publisher's name, formulated by Leandro Karnal and Cortella.",3519.8,3528,{"idx":3369,"utterance_id":3370,"speaker_name":8,"text":3371,"start_s":3372,"end_s":3373,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},532,"83253","But can I use it?",3530.4,3531.4,{"idx":3375,"utterance_id":3376,"speaker_name":8,"text":978,"start_s":3377,"end_s":3378,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},533,"83254",3532.62,3532.82,{"idx":3380,"utterance_id":3381,"speaker_name":8,"text":3382,"start_s":3383,"end_s":3384,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},534,"83255","It is distributed to the students.",3533.62,3535.26,{"idx":3386,"utterance_id":3387,"speaker_name":8,"text":3388,"start_s":3389,"end_s":3390,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},535,"83256","I have to teach what is on the platform.",3535.4,3538.1,{"idx":560,"utterance_id":3392,"speaker_name":8,"text":3393,"start_s":3394,"end_s":3395,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},"83257","The São Paulo exam is based... on the slides, on the platforms, on the other program called Tarefas.",3539.26,3550.4,{"idx":3397,"utterance_id":3398,"speaker_name":8,"text":3399,"start_s":3400,"end_s":3401,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},537,"83258","Each of these programs I'm telling you about",3550.76,3552.78,{"idx":3403,"utterance_id":3404,"speaker_name":8,"text":3405,"start_s":3406,"end_s":3407,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},538,"83259","cost millions to implement.",3553.62,3555.06,{"idx":3409,"utterance_id":3410,"speaker_name":8,"text":3411,"start_s":3412,"end_s":3413,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},539,"83260","They are platforms, Multiplique, Matifique, Speak, Elefante Letrado, among others.",3555.98,3561.5,{"idx":3415,"utterance_id":3416,"speaker_name":8,"text":3417,"start_s":3418,"end_s":3419,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},540,"83261","All of them, each one of these digital platforms, cost millions.",3563.18,3566.86,{"idx":3421,"utterance_id":3422,"speaker_name":8,"text":3423,"start_s":3424,"end_s":3425,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},541,"83262","And I can't apply, as I said at the start of my speech.",3567.78,3570.52,{"idx":3427,"utterance_id":3428,"speaker_name":8,"text":3429,"start_s":3430,"end_s":3431,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},542,"83263","I can't apply what I learned at college, my experience, my background.",3571.44,3576.28,{"idx":3433,"utterance_id":3434,"speaker_name":8,"text":3435,"start_s":3436,"end_s":3437,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},543,"83264","I can't.",3576.46,3576.94,{"idx":3439,"utterance_id":3440,"speaker_name":8,"text":3441,"start_s":3442,"end_s":3443,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},544,"83265","It's what André just mentioned.",3577.82,3580.12,{"idx":3445,"utterance_id":3446,"speaker_name":8,"text":3447,"start_s":3448,"end_s":3449,"word_count":56,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3072,"target_proposition":3073,"stance":343,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":3450,"indexable":13},545,"83266","So, I think this is a huge mistake.",3581.6,3584.84,"explicitly declares that the use of platforms is 'um 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understand?",3605.12,3605.5,{"idx":3482,"utterance_id":3483,"speaker_name":8,"text":3484,"start_s":3485,"end_s":3486,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},551,"83272","Well, I want to thank Luciana's and André's remarks here.",3611.3,3614.7,{"idx":3488,"utterance_id":3489,"speaker_name":8,"text":3490,"start_s":3491,"end_s":3492,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},552,"83273","Thank you very much for sharing your story.",3615.04,3618.3,{"idx":3494,"utterance_id":3495,"speaker_name":8,"text":3496,"start_s":3497,"end_s":3498,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},553,"83274","I feel personally touched because I am an atypical mother too.",3618.4,3622.42,{"idx":3500,"utterance_id":3501,"speaker_name":8,"text":3502,"start_s":3503,"end_s":3504,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},554,"83275","My little one is still seven years old, but I hope he will be as smart as you, André.",3623.4,3629.62,{"idx":3506,"utterance_id":3507,"speaker_name":8,"text":1946,"start_s":3508,"end_s":3509,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},555,"83276",3630.4,3631.66,{"idx":3511,"utterance_id":3512,"speaker_name":8,"text":3513,"start_s":3514,"end_s":3515,"word_count":133,"indexable":13},556,"83277","I will hand the floor now... to our next guest, who is Rosana dos Santos, from São Paulo.",3636.84,3643.1,{"idx":3517,"utterance_id":3518,"speaker_name":8,"text":3519,"start_s":3520,"end_s":3521,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},557,"83278","Everyone, good morning or good afternoon already, right?",3644.54,3647.22,{"idx":3523,"utterance_id":3524,"speaker_name":8,"text":1247,"start_s":3525,"end_s":3526,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},558,"83279",3647.32,3647.84,{"idx":3528,"utterance_id":3529,"speaker_name":8,"text":1756,"start_s":3530,"end_s":3531,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},559,"83280",3647.88,3648.28,{"idx":3533,"utterance_id":3534,"speaker_name":8,"text":1756,"start_s":3535,"end_s":3536,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},560,"83281",3649.4,3649.78,{"idx":3538,"utterance_id":3539,"speaker_name":8,"text":3540,"start_s":3541,"end_s":3542,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},561,"83282","I have been a teacher in the São Paulo State school system since 1988.",3651.38,3655.02,{"idx":3544,"utterance_id":3545,"speaker_name":8,"text":3546,"start_s":3547,"end_s":3548,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},562,"83283","Let me speak quietly, okay?",3656.66,3657.66,{"idx":3550,"utterance_id":3551,"speaker_name":8,"text":3552,"start_s":3553,"end_s":3554,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},563,"83284","Since '88.",3658.26,3658.56,{"idx":3556,"utterance_id":3557,"speaker_name":8,"text":3558,"start_s":3559,"end_s":3560,"word_count":131,"indexable":13},564,"83285","I started very young and... I have been through several moments, through several administrations, and I consider this the most challenging moment for education in São Paulo.",3660.02,3670.02,{"idx":3562,"utterance_id":3563,"speaker_name":8,"text":3564,"start_s":3565,"end_s":3566,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3072,"target_proposition":3073,"stance":343,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":3567,"indexable":191},565,"83286","To expand a little on what Ana said, today we have one of the big challenges, the issue of platforms.",3671.84,3679.48,"states that platforms are today one of the major challenges in education.",{"idx":3569,"utterance_id":3570,"speaker_name":8,"text":3571,"start_s":3572,"end_s":3573,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},566,"83287","Since the beginning of 1923, we became, I call it, 'task-doers' — we became task-doers and started chasing indicators.",3681.92,3690,{"idx":3575,"utterance_id":3576,"speaker_name":8,"text":3577,"start_s":3578,"end_s":3579,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},567,"83288","We need to have targets met all the time.",3690.52,3693.58,{"idx":3581,"utterance_id":3582,"speaker_name":8,"text":3583,"start_s":3584,"end_s":3585,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},568,"83289","And how do these targets impact the school?",3694.04,3696.62,{"idx":3587,"utterance_id":3588,"speaker_name":8,"text":3589,"start_s":3590,"end_s":3591,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},569,"83290","There is a chart... let's say, at the school entrance, with all the classes, and they put the colors there, because nowadays we work with traffic lights for everything.",3699.12,3711.36,{"idx":3593,"utterance_id":3594,"speaker_name":8,"text":3595,"start_s":3596,"end_s":3597,"word_count":179,"indexable":13},570,"83291","So there's the class that's in the red, the class that's in the green, the class that's in the yellow, and the race to get everyone to green.",3711.4,3720.06,{"idx":3599,"utterance_id":3600,"speaker_name":8,"text":3601,"start_s":3602,"end_s":3603,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},571,"83292","So, in order for everyone to be green, we have to hurry and do the platforms.",3720.3,3726.24,{"idx":3605,"utterance_id":3606,"speaker_name":8,"text":3607,"start_s":3608,"end_s":3609,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3072,"target_proposition":3073,"stance":343,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":3610,"indexable":191},572,"83293","Thus, the platforms have become the point of reference for educational work within the school.",3726.84,3733.74,"says platforms have become the reference for educational work, in a critical tone.",{"idx":3612,"utterance_id":3613,"speaker_name":8,"text":3614,"start_s":3615,"end_s":3616,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},573,"83294","And the targets are taken from what she mentioned about the São Paulo exam.",3734.18,3739.42,{"idx":3618,"utterance_id":3619,"speaker_name":8,"text":3620,"start_s":3621,"end_s":3622,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},574,"83295","The São Paulo exam is given bimonthly.",3739.86,3743.14,{"idx":3624,"utterance_id":3625,"speaker_name":8,"text":3626,"start_s":3627,"end_s":3628,"word_count":131,"indexable":13},575,"83296","This exam will say how much that class learned or did not learn of the content that was presented on the slides and of the platforms that were done.",3744.3,3753.24,{"idx":3630,"utterance_id":3631,"speaker_name":8,"text":3632,"start_s":3633,"end_s":3634,"word_count":69,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3635,"target_proposition":3636,"stance":343,"stance_confidence":3637,"rationale":3638,"indexable":191},576,"83297","And these platforms today do not serve only to teach.",3753.7,3757.36,"b3f53fcd-c3d3-4637-9d7b-1285e134d100","use digital platforms as the main criterion for teacher evaluation",0.92,"states that platforms are also used 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sent to another unit if you hold a permanent post, as I do, or if you are category O, you end up going from school to school; I call it a pilgrimage.",3793.82,3814.96,"9335fda5-d990-4a4b-a32e-44d17d33150f","punish teachers for platform-based evaluations and targets","reports reassignment and punishment of teachers for unmet targets.",{"idx":3686,"utterance_id":3687,"speaker_name":8,"text":3688,"start_s":3689,"end_s":3690,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},584,"83305","Wandering, as our friend already said, going from one unit to another, because you lose not only because of the absence of classes, but also because of that negative evaluation.",3815.92,3827.56,{"idx":3692,"utterance_id":3693,"speaker_name":8,"text":3694,"start_s":3695,"end_s":3696,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},585,"83306","So now, at the end of the month... we had one of these evaluations, we're waiting, I'm anxiously waiting to know whether I'm red, green or yellow.",3828.72,3840.6,{"idx":3698,"utterance_id":3699,"speaker_name":8,"text":3700,"start_s":3701,"end_s":3702,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},586,"83307","It's ironic, but unfortunately this has been happening.",3841.06,3845.04,{"idx":3704,"utterance_id":3705,"speaker_name":8,"text":3706,"start_s":3707,"end_s":3708,"word_count":315,"indexable":13},587,"83308","And we also have a direct punishment for those who cannot, as has already been said here, make the students complete the tasks and keep that class in the red or in the green, which is what is sought.",3845.98,3860.96,{"idx":3710,"utterance_id":3711,"speaker_name":8,"text":3712,"start_s":3713,"end_s":3714,"word_count":270,"indexable":13},588,"83309","And it happened recently... in one of the schools, all the teachers of the evening shift received a work guidance because the students were not completing the tasks, were not doing the tasks, and the classes were in the 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target.",3898.98,3906.92,{"idx":3740,"utterance_id":3741,"speaker_name":8,"text":3742,"start_s":3743,"end_s":3744,"word_count":131,"indexable":13},593,"83314","Whether in terms of IDEB or ESP, or even for not being able to get the platforms to be green, including student attendance.",3908.24,3916.92,{"idx":3746,"utterance_id":3747,"speaker_name":8,"text":3748,"start_s":3749,"end_s":3750,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},594,"83315","It is really a climate of great weight, a lot of tension and unpleasantness.",3917.72,3922.7,{"idx":3752,"utterance_id":3753,"speaker_name":8,"text":3754,"start_s":3755,"end_s":3756,"word_count":466,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3757,"target_proposition":3758,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":3759,"indexable":191},595,"83316","I mentioned a little while ago to a friend already known, Paulo, that... depending on what you choose, if you step a little outside the ritual, I'm a bit rebellious — those who know me know I'm calm, but I have a rebellious soul — I try to use some materials different from the ones proposed in the slides, and the school's internet blocks them.",3923.04,3950.52,"c897dbda-a012-4c31-80ed-349df5526dfe","ensure access to online pedagogical resources in schools without blocking","reports the blocking of a documentary and complains about restricted teacher access.",{"idx":3761,"utterance_id":3762,"speaker_name":8,"text":3763,"start_s":3764,"end_s":3765,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},596,"83317","So it has a filter.",3952.46,3954.18,{"idx":3767,"utterance_id":3768,"speaker_name":8,"text":3769,"start_s":3770,"end_s":3771,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},597,"83318","It has a filter.",3954.86,3955.86,{"idx":3773,"utterance_id":3774,"speaker_name":8,"text":3775,"start_s":3776,"end_s":3777,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},598,"83319","And I'll give an example.",3956.02,3956.94,{"idx":3779,"utterance_id":3780,"speaker_name":8,"text":3781,"start_s":3782,"end_s":3783,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},599,"83320","I am currently a geography teacher, I've held several management positions in schools, and I tried to show a Milton Santos documentary and the unit's internet blocked the documentary.",3956.98,3971.22,{"idx":3785,"utterance_id":3786,"speaker_name":8,"text":3787,"start_s":3788,"end_s":3789,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},600,"83321","So to be able to show it, I tethered my phone, used my phone's internet, because it doesn't have a filter.",3971.74,3977.74,{"idx":3791,"utterance_id":3792,"speaker_name":8,"text":3793,"start_s":3794,"end_s":3795,"word_count":472,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":3796,"target_proposition":3797,"stance":343,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":3798,"indexable":191},601,"83322","So, yes, we have been living through a tense moment, a moment in which numbers matter much more, where a cosmetic fix-up matters more — I call it 'makeup' — because from the moment the question on the slide is the same question asked on the exam, and if I follow the ritual, I trained the student to answer that question, and I artificially raise the results.",3978.14,4004.6,"eb3b85bb-7043-46b0-979f-c82d44f95698","reduce reliance on standardized tests and 'drill' practices to inflate results","criticizes masking learning by training for exams with slides and platforms.",{"idx":3800,"utterance_id":3801,"speaker_name":8,"text":3802,"start_s":3803,"end_s":3804,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},602,"83323","And I will have students with good performance, which does not mean they really learned.",4004.96,4010.2,{"idx":3806,"utterance_id":3807,"speaker_name":8,"text":3808,"start_s":3809,"end_s":3810,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},603,"83324","So it's very sad, it's regrettable what we have been going through nowadays.",4010.82,4014.84,{"idx":3812,"utterance_id":3813,"speaker_name":8,"text":3814,"start_s":3815,"end_s":3816,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},604,"83325","Thank you, Rosana, for your account.",4014.88,4025.24,{"idx":3818,"utterance_id":3819,"speaker_name":8,"text":3820,"start_s":3821,"end_s":3822,"word_count":228,"indexable":13},605,"83326","It's very hard to hear this kind of thing, because the work of an educator, of a teacher, is so important, it shouldn't be so painful to work to bring about social change.",4025.6,4040.52,{"idx":3824,"utterance_id":3825,"speaker_name":8,"text":3826,"start_s":3827,"end_s":3828,"word_count":173,"indexable":13},606,"83327","And when we see this difficulty to do the work, to fulfill what you fought so hard to achieve, how do we see the next generations of teachers?",4040.94,4052.38,{"idx":3830,"utterance_id":3831,"speaker_name":8,"text":3832,"start_s":3833,"end_s":3834,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},607,"83328","When the work is so hard?",4053.44,4055.16,{"idx":3836,"utterance_id":3837,"speaker_name":8,"text":3838,"start_s":3839,"end_s":3840,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},608,"83329","You may, of course.",4055.4,4055.96,{"idx":3842,"utterance_id":3843,"speaker_name":8,"text":3844,"start_s":3845,"end_s":3846,"word_count":131,"indexable":13},609,"83330","Generally, when we assess students, it's so we can intervene to address any deficiencies that may be found.",4058,4069.64,{"idx":3848,"utterance_id":3849,"speaker_name":8,"text":3850,"start_s":3851,"end_s":3852,"word_count":131,"indexable":13},610,"83331","In the case of the teacher who is placed in yellow or red, what is done to them seems to be only punishment.",4070.4,4079.66,{"idx":3854,"utterance_id":3855,"speaker_name":8,"text":3856,"start_s":3857,"end_s":3858,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},611,"83332","It is not about trying to care for those places that need intervention.",4080.28,4086.16,{"idx":3860,"utterance_id":3861,"speaker_name":8,"text":3862,"start_s":3863,"end_s":3864,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},612,"83333","Is that it?",4086.28,4086.66,{"idx":3866,"utterance_id":3867,"speaker_name":8,"text":3868,"start_s":3869,"end_s":3870,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},613,"83334","That's it.",4087.2,4087.6,{"idx":3872,"utterance_id":3873,"speaker_name":8,"text":3874,"start_s":3875,"end_s":3876,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},614,"83335","It's the day-to-day.",4089.5,4090.22,{"idx":3878,"utterance_id":3879,"speaker_name":8,"text":3880,"start_s":3881,"end_s":3882,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},615,"83336","It's ideological.",4090.26,4090.92,{"idx":3884,"utterance_id":3885,"speaker_name":8,"text":3868,"start_s":3886,"end_s":3887,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},616,"83337",4092.3,4092.7,{"idx":3889,"utterance_id":3890,"speaker_name":8,"text":3891,"start_s":3892,"end_s":3893,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},617,"83338","It's punishment all the time.",4093.42,4096.08,{"idx":3895,"utterance_id":3896,"speaker_name":8,"text":3897,"start_s":3898,"end_s":3899,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},618,"83339","For any failure that occurs, there is a high price to be paid.",4096.82,4101.38,{"idx":3901,"utterance_id":3902,"speaker_name":8,"text":3903,"start_s":3904,"end_s":3905,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},619,"83340","I have a wonderful experience in Acre with the Secretary of Education, who at the time, Arnóbio, is a great friend of mine; he later became governor.",4102.28,4114.54,{"idx":3907,"utterance_id":3908,"speaker_name":8,"text":3909,"start_s":3910,"end_s":3911,"word_count":85,"indexable":13},620,"83341","And he carried out an evaluation process with the teachers and worked in a customized way on everything that was found to raise",4115.22,4124.86,{"idx":3913,"utterance_id":3914,"speaker_name":8,"text":3915,"start_s":3916,"end_s":3917,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},621,"83342","the level of the teachers in a customized manner, according to their needs.",4125.48,4129.58,{"idx":3919,"utterance_id":3920,"speaker_name":8,"text":3921,"start_s":3922,"end_s":3923,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},622,"83343","And the result afterwards reflected wonderfully in the teaching-learning process.",4129.96,4135.7,{"idx":3925,"utterance_id":3926,"speaker_name":8,"text":3927,"start_s":3928,"end_s":3929,"word_count":161,"indexable":13},623,"83344","I worked in a training process that had this individualized focus, supporting the teacher to improve their work and, consequently, improve the results.",4137.12,4147.04,{"idx":3931,"utterance_id":3932,"speaker_name":8,"text":3933,"start_s":3934,"end_s":3935,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},624,"83345","But that is not the logic we have been living here.",4147.14,4149.6,{"idx":3937,"utterance_id":3938,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3939,"start_s":3940,"end_s":3941,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},625,"83346","Teacher, do you remember any Secretary of Education",4152,4155.9,{"idx":3943,"utterance_id":3944,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3945,"start_s":3946,"end_s":3947,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},626,"83347","who left a positive mark in your memory after so many years of teaching?",4156.28,4161.16,{"idx":3949,"utterance_id":3950,"speaker_name":8,"text":3951,"start_s":3952,"end_s":3953,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},627,"83348","Wow!",4161.84,4163.8,{"idx":3955,"utterance_id":3956,"speaker_name":8,"text":3957,"start_s":3958,"end_s":3959,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},628,"83349","Some or one, none?",4163.84,4165.5,{"idx":3961,"utterance_id":3962,"speaker_name":8,"text":3963,"start_s":3964,"end_s":3965,"word_count":85,"indexable":13},629,"83350","I think, how can I say, I always thought we lived in the tragic and I never imagined it could become more tragic.",4166.28,4175,{"idx":3967,"utterance_id":3968,"speaker_name":8,"text":3969,"start_s":3970,"end_s":3971,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},630,"83351","But the Secretariat of the State of São Paulo?",4176.28,4178.08,{"idx":3973,"utterance_id":3974,"speaker_name":8,"text":3975,"start_s":3976,"end_s":3977,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},631,"83352","I don't recall any.",4178.44,4179.68,{"idx":3979,"utterance_id":3980,"speaker_name":8,"text":3981,"start_s":3982,"end_s":3983,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},632,"83353","I remember the Municipal Secretariat of Education.",4179.84,4183.04,{"idx":3985,"utterance_id":3986,"speaker_name":8,"text":3987,"start_s":3988,"end_s":3989,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},633,"83354","Because I am also a municipal teacher...",4183.54,4185.26,{"idx":3991,"utterance_id":3992,"speaker_name":8,"text":3993,"start_s":3994,"end_s":3995,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},634,"83355","Here in São Paulo.",4185.3,4185.76,{"idx":3997,"utterance_id":3998,"speaker_name":8,"text":3993,"start_s":3999,"end_s":4000,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},635,"83356",4185.96,4186.66,{"idx":4002,"utterance_id":4003,"speaker_name":8,"text":4004,"start_s":4005,"end_s":4006,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},636,"83357","At the municipal level, we remember.",4187.42,4188.82,{"idx":4008,"utterance_id":4009,"speaker_name":8,"text":4010,"start_s":4011,"end_s":4012,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},637,"83358","Paulo Freire was our secretary, you can't forget that.",4189.08,4192.9,{"idx":4014,"utterance_id":4015,"speaker_name":8,"text":4016,"start_s":4017,"end_s":4018,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},638,"83359","He wasn't from the network at the time, but I know that had a big impact.",4193.44,4197.14,{"idx":4020,"utterance_id":4021,"speaker_name":8,"text":4022,"start_s":4023,"end_s":4024,"word_count":270,"indexable":13},639,"83360","We had... Cortella as secretary as well, we had Cida Pérez, we have many names in the City Hall of São Paulo that I can say were good secretaries and who effectively did work I consider good.",4197.84,4212.1,{"idx":4026,"utterance_id":4027,"speaker_name":8,"text":4028,"start_s":4029,"end_s":4030,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},640,"83361","Now, from the State of São Paulo, I can't, unfortunately.",4212.68,4217.38,{"idx":4032,"utterance_id":4033,"speaker_name":8,"text":4034,"start_s":4035,"end_s":4036,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},641,"83362","Thank you once again, Rosana.",4225.88,4227.62,{"idx":4038,"utterance_id":4039,"speaker_name":8,"text":4040,"start_s":4041,"end_s":4042,"word_count":173,"indexable":13},642,"83363","To finish here... the audience remarks, I will now call Jeane Ambar, from São Paulo, and Denison Guimarães, from Guaratinguetá, to speak.",4227.74,4239.7,{"idx":4044,"utterance_id":4045,"speaker_name":8,"text":4046,"start_s":4047,"end_s":4048,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},643,"83364","Hello.",4240.7,4240.92,{"idx":4050,"utterance_id":4051,"speaker_name":8,"text":4052,"start_s":4053,"end_s":4054,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},644,"83365","I appreciate the opportunity to be here and to present our needs.",4242.02,4247.4,{"idx":4056,"utterance_id":4057,"speaker_name":8,"text":4058,"start_s":4059,"end_s":4060,"word_count":252,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":4063,"indexable":13},645,"83366","I've seen several cases of women teachers, men teachers, students, mothers, and I am a doctoral student, but I see... among my master's colleagues, my PhD colleagues, the difficulty we have in private education.",4248.44,4266,"226c29f1-9f28-428e-8851-5de9f04f86f9","implement state public scholarship and incentive policies for students and researchers","reports difficulties in private education without proposing explicit action.",{"idx":4065,"utterance_id":4066,"speaker_name":8,"text":4067,"start_s":4068,"end_s":4069,"word_count":79,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":4070,"indexable":13},646,"83367","Because we cannot afford housing, work, and study with high tuition fees.",4266.92,4275.7,"describes the impossibility of reconciling work, home, and study.",{"idx":4072,"utterance_id":4073,"speaker_name":8,"text":4074,"start_s":4075,"end_s":4076,"word_count":61,"topic_slug":4077,"topic_label":4078,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":4079,"indexable":13},647,"83368","And we have CAPES and CNPq scholarships, scholarships from the federal government.",4276.54,4281.2,"tecnologia-e-inteligencia-artificial","Technology and Artificial Intelligence","mentions the existence of federal scholarships (CAPES, CNPq) descriptively.",{"idx":4081,"utterance_id":4082,"speaker_name":8,"text":4083,"start_s":4084,"end_s":4085,"word_count":12,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":4086,"indexable":13},648,"83369","So, I see a completely unequal distribution.",4281.82,4286.98,"claims unequal distribution without indicating concrete action in this remark.",{"idx":4088,"utterance_id":4089,"speaker_name":8,"text":4090,"start_s":4091,"end_s":4092,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},649,"83370","Mainly in terms of gender.",4288.04,4289.92,{"idx":4094,"utterance_id":4095,"speaker_name":8,"text":4096,"start_s":4097,"end_s":4098,"word_count":20,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":4099,"indexable":13},650,"83371","I speak for myself, I participated in a selection process, and of the scholarships, all went to men.",4290.74,4297.14,"reports scholarship selection with a gender bias, without proposing a policy.",{"idx":4101,"utterance_id":4102,"speaker_name":8,"text":4103,"start_s":4104,"end_s":4105,"word_count":120,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":4106,"indexable":191},651,"83372","I have just done research where 37% of the scholarships are for women and 63% are for men.",4297.4,4305.76,"presents the statistic (37% women) as descriptive data.",{"idx":4108,"utterance_id":4109,"speaker_name":8,"text":4110,"start_s":4111,"end_s":4112,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},652,"83373","Research scholarships.",4305.92,4306.92,{"idx":4114,"utterance_id":4115,"speaker_name":8,"text":4116,"start_s":4117,"end_s":4118,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},653,"83374","Capes.",4307.8,4308.08,{"idx":4120,"utterance_id":4121,"speaker_name":8,"text":4122,"start_s":4123,"end_s":4124,"word_count":61,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":4125,"indexable":13},654,"83375","It's a very large disparity for those of us who have to work and study.",4310.1,4314.2,"describes the disparity as large, still without an explicit proposal.",{"idx":4127,"utterance_id":4128,"speaker_name":8,"text":4129,"start_s":4130,"end_s":4131,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},655,"83376","I'm a mother, taking care of the home and children, and having to hear demands like \"you need to produce more.\"",4314.48,4321.96,{"idx":4133,"utterance_id":4134,"speaker_name":8,"text":4135,"start_s":4136,"end_s":4137,"word_count":54,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":4138,"rationale":4139,"indexable":13},656,"83377","But I don't have a scholarship or incentive grant for that.",4322.76,4325.1,0.68,"reports a personal lack of a scholarship, a narrative without a direct request in this remark.",{"idx":4141,"utterance_id":4142,"speaker_name":8,"text":4143,"start_s":4144,"end_s":4145,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":4146,"rationale":4147,"indexable":13},657,"83378","If I had one, I could leave my job, I could reduce my working hours.",4325.4,4329.3,0.65,"conditions a personal possibility on the existence of a scholarship, without a direct proposal.",{"idx":4149,"utterance_id":4150,"speaker_name":8,"text":4151,"start_s":4152,"end_s":4153,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":4077,"topic_label":4078,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":606,"rationale":4154,"indexable":191},658,"83379","So, there is a lack of state-level incentives for us to... build science, to build education, to build technology, innovation, research, and for us to advance in that.",4329.86,4342.6,"states a lack of state incentives and calls for progress in science and technology.",{"idx":4156,"utterance_id":4157,"speaker_name":8,"text":4158,"start_s":4159,"end_s":4160,"word_count":150,"indexable":13},659,"83380","So this is my outpouring as a student, as a mother, as a partner we are here; we are part of the Association of Postgraduate Students.",4343.38,4353.02,{"idx":4162,"utterance_id":4163,"speaker_name":8,"text":4164,"start_s":4165,"end_s":4166,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},660,"83381","So we're always chasing things that can improve our lives as professionals and students.",4353.62,4360.88,{"idx":4168,"utterance_id":4169,"speaker_name":8,"text":4170,"start_s":4171,"end_s":4172,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":3637,"rationale":4173,"indexable":191},661,"83382","I would really like you to consider a more equitable public policy for scholarships, a state scholarship public policy for students from private institutions.",4361.02,4373.1,"explicitly asks for 'uma política pública de bolsas estaduais para alunos da rede privada'.",{"idx":4175,"utterance_id":4176,"speaker_name":8,"text":4177,"start_s":4178,"end_s":4179,"word_count":69,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":4180,"indexable":191},662,"83383","A little more attention to this issue of incentives.",4374.48,4379.44,"complains about 'um pouco mais de atenção' to educational incentives.",{"idx":4182,"utterance_id":4183,"speaker_name":8,"text":4184,"start_s":4185,"end_s":4186,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},663,"83384","Because we... \"Ah, what do you do for a living?\"",4380.76,4382.84,{"idx":4188,"utterance_id":4189,"speaker_name":8,"text":4190,"start_s":4191,"end_s":4192,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},664,"83385","\"You just study?\"",4382.88,4383.68,{"idx":4194,"utterance_id":4195,"speaker_name":8,"text":4196,"start_s":4197,"end_s":4198,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},665,"83386","No, we are producing science, we are producing research.",4384.38,4387.24,{"idx":4200,"utterance_id":4201,"speaker_name":8,"text":4202,"start_s":4203,"end_s":4204,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},666,"83387","If I didn't speak here, no one would know that women receive fewer scholarships.",4387.36,4391.6,{"idx":4206,"utterance_id":4207,"speaker_name":8,"text":4208,"start_s":4209,"end_s":4210,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},667,"83388","We hear that it's whining, but it's not; those are numbers, statistics, they're there.",4392.24,4396.84,{"idx":4212,"utterance_id":4213,"speaker_name":8,"text":4214,"start_s":4215,"end_s":4216,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},668,"83389","Those who want to see it, the numbers are there.",4396.96,4399.06,{"idx":4218,"utterance_id":4219,"speaker_name":8,"text":4220,"start_s":4221,"end_s":4222,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},669,"83390","And we do research, we work with that.",4399.46,4401.42,{"idx":4224,"utterance_id":4225,"speaker_name":8,"text":4226,"start_s":4227,"end_s":4228,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},670,"83391","And in the field of law, which is our area, we are always seeking the rights of the excluded.",4402.02,4407.98,{"idx":4230,"utterance_id":4231,"speaker_name":8,"text":4232,"start_s":4233,"end_s":4234,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},671,"83392","And I feel, at this moment, firsthand what it is to be an excluded person.",4408.14,4413.98,{"idx":4236,"utterance_id":4237,"speaker_name":8,"text":4238,"start_s":4239,"end_s":4240,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},672,"83393","To advance in my career, I want to advance in research, but I feel stuck because I don't have time, I don't have incentives, I don't have a scholarship and I'm chasing it.",4414.76,4423.12,{"idx":4242,"utterance_id":4243,"speaker_name":8,"text":4244,"start_s":4245,"end_s":4246,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},673,"83394","And I'm tired, you know?",4423.54,4424.72,{"idx":4248,"utterance_id":4249,"speaker_name":8,"text":4250,"start_s":4251,"end_s":4252,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},674,"83395","We get very tired.",4424.78,4425.98,{"idx":4254,"utterance_id":4255,"speaker_name":8,"text":4256,"start_s":4257,"end_s":4258,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4061,"target_proposition":4062,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":4259,"indexable":191},675,"83396","So I would be grateful if you put us on the agenda as a target for incentives for education and for the advancement of education in Brazil.",4426.44,4437.6,"asks to put incentive targets for education on the agenda.",{"idx":4261,"utterance_id":4262,"speaker_name":8,"text":1946,"start_s":4263,"end_s":4264,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},676,"83397",4437.82,4438.48,{"idx":4266,"utterance_id":4267,"speaker_name":8,"text":4268,"start_s":4269,"end_s":4270,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},677,"83398","Good morning, I would also like to thank you for the opportunity.",4444.62,4447.62,{"idx":4272,"utterance_id":4273,"speaker_name":8,"text":4274,"start_s":4275,"end_s":4276,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},678,"83399","I am a student at the State University of São Paulo, Unesp, along with some colleagues here from USP, also present.",4447.84,4453.74,{"idx":4278,"utterance_id":4279,"speaker_name":8,"text":4280,"start_s":4281,"end_s":4282,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},679,"83400","Before speaking specifically about our higher education issues, I would like to express my solidarity with basic education, from elementary school to high school.",4454.34,4463.32,{"idx":4284,"utterance_id":4285,"speaker_name":8,"text":4286,"start_s":4287,"end_s":4288,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},680,"83401","I studied for a teaching degree; I was recently an intern.",4463.72,4467.28,{"idx":4290,"utterance_id":4291,"speaker_name":8,"text":4292,"start_s":4293,"end_s":4294,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4295,"target_proposition":4296,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":4297,"indexable":13},681,"83402","In public schools, I was able to witness this process of 'platformization' that has caused significant harm to our students' education.",4469.88,4479.08,"aca277e1-8172-41d7-b56a-416b59e32c4f","adapt higher education curricula to include basic education reinforcement","denounces harmful 'plataformização', reporting its effect without proposing a solution in this sentence.",{"idx":4299,"utterance_id":4300,"speaker_name":8,"text":4301,"start_s":4302,"end_s":4303,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},682,"83403","In higher education, we have been feeling this lag in knowledge.",4481.3,4485.08,{"idx":4305,"utterance_id":4306,"speaker_name":8,"text":4307,"start_s":4308,"end_s":4309,"word_count":131,"indexable":13},683,"83404","Students who arrive in undergraduate courses, especially in the exact sciences, which I am part of, have brought many difficulties in mathematics.",4485.72,4494.4,{"idx":4311,"utterance_id":4312,"speaker_name":8,"text":4313,"start_s":4314,"end_s":4315,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},684,"83405","And we end up... having internal conflicts with some professors who believe these students should not be there.",4495.24,4501,{"idx":4317,"utterance_id":4318,"speaker_name":8,"text":4319,"start_s":4320,"end_s":4321,"word_count":518,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4295,"target_proposition":4296,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":4322,"indexable":191},685,"83406","So, we have been able to respond, as a public university, by trying to adapt curricula to receive these students and go through an adjustment process with the implementation of basic teaching, with basic calculus, so that these students have the opportunity to rebalance themselves within the context of higher education so that they can continue their training, whether in teaching, in pure and applied science.",4502.14,4528.6,"states 'a gente conseguiu responder' and demands curricular adjustment.",{"idx":4324,"utterance_id":4325,"speaker_name":8,"text":4326,"start_s":4327,"end_s":4328,"word_count":315,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4295,"target_proposition":4296,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":4329,"indexable":191},686,"83407","So I wanted to express solidarity and say that public universities also see and perceive this gap in basic education and we try, as much as possible, to be in solidarity and contribute so that those people who come to us also have their opportunities for higher education.",4528.96,4546.9,"says that public universities try to adapt curricula and contribute.",{"idx":4331,"utterance_id":4332,"speaker_name":8,"text":4333,"start_s":4334,"end_s":4335,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},687,"83408","But I would also like to raise a specific issue about public higher education in São Paulo.",4547.78,4552.78,{"idx":4337,"utterance_id":4338,"speaker_name":8,"text":4339,"start_s":4340,"end_s":4341,"word_count":171,"topic_slug":4342,"topic_label":4343,"target_id":4344,"target_proposition":4345,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":1383,"rationale":4346,"indexable":13},688,"83409","We have just gone through an intense period of strikes here in the state of São Paulo, which also brings budgetary problems, structural problems, problems of quality in teaching and research.",4553.38,4565,"financiamento-da-educacao","Education Funding","a0341e9c-fbff-4814-86f4-5272d1b9b70d","increase state funding for public universities and support their expansion","Reports a strike and budgetary problems without proposing action in this remark.",{"idx":4348,"utterance_id":4349,"speaker_name":8,"text":4350,"start_s":4351,"end_s":4352,"word_count":353,"topic_slug":4342,"topic_label":4343,"target_id":4344,"target_proposition":4345,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":4353,"indexable":191},689,"83410","We have the three main public universities in the country that produce the most science and train the most professionals, whether teachers, researchers, among others, but since... Since 1995 we have not had an adjustment in the ICMS transfer, which is also threatened due to the current and recent tax transition that is advancing.",4565.38,4589.02,"Reports the absence of an ICMS transfer adjustment since 1995, factual description.",{"idx":4355,"utterance_id":4356,"speaker_name":8,"text":4357,"start_s":4358,"end_s":4359,"word_count":276,"indexable":13},690,"83411","So it's a very... obscure limbo for higher education, given the political scenario we have here with this government, with this Legislative Assembly, regarding how the financing of these institutions, which have historically been systematically neglected, will be.",4589.58,4607.58,{"idx":4361,"utterance_id":4362,"speaker_name":8,"text":4363,"start_s":4364,"end_s":4365,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},691,"83412","Public universities, beyond the educational issue, try to solve social problems that are linked to health, to technology, telecommunications, among other issues.",4609.8,4621.34,{"idx":4367,"utterance_id":4368,"speaker_name":8,"text":4369,"start_s":4370,"end_s":4371,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},692,"83413","And also their proximity.",4621.76,4622.94,{"idx":4373,"utterance_id":4374,"speaker_name":8,"text":4375,"start_s":4376,"end_s":4377,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},693,"83414","I am from a university that is present in 24 cities in the state of São Paulo, which is an example of decentralization and of access to high-quality public higher education.",4623.06,4632.72,{"idx":4379,"utterance_id":4380,"speaker_name":8,"text":4381,"start_s":4382,"end_s":4383,"word_count":215,"indexable":13},694,"83415","And we try, as much as possible, to collaborate with municipal governments and with the school systems, but, unfortunately, unfortunately, there are cities, there are mayors who see this university as an enemy.",4633.12,4643.54,{"idx":4385,"utterance_id":4386,"speaker_name":8,"text":4387,"start_s":4388,"end_s":4389,"word_count":234,"indexable":13},695,"83416","Unfortunately, because we produce so much that can solve many of the problems that were—primarily the educational issues raised here—that end up not entering this context due to local political administrations.",4644.52,4659.04,{"idx":4391,"utterance_id":4392,"speaker_name":8,"text":4393,"start_s":4394,"end_s":4395,"word_count":286,"topic_slug":4342,"topic_label":4343,"target_id":4344,"target_proposition":4345,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":4396,"indexable":191},696,"83417","So, I wanted to bring this attention as well... Adade, regarding attention to the São Paulo public universities, concerning their funding and this expansion, so that we can contribute even more as São Paulo society and as Brazilian society.",4659.82,4677.8,"Calls for attention to the funding and expansion of São Paulo's public universities.",{"idx":4398,"utterance_id":4399,"speaker_name":8,"text":1946,"start_s":4400,"end_s":4401,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},697,"83418",4678.28,4678.84,{"idx":4403,"utterance_id":4404,"speaker_name":8,"text":4405,"start_s":4406,"end_s":4407,"word_count":171,"indexable":13},698,"83419","Thank you very much, Jeane, thank you very much, Denison, for bringing up these issues of public higher education in São Paulo, which are also very important for us to seek solutions to the problems presented.",4685.34,4697.66,{"idx":4409,"utterance_id":4410,"speaker_name":8,"text":4411,"start_s":4412,"end_s":4413,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},699,"83420","I want to ask here, everyone, for a round of applause for everyone who shared their stories.",4698.22,4703.2,{"idx":4415,"utterance_id":4416,"speaker_name":8,"text":4417,"start_s":4418,"end_s":4419,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},700,"83421","It was very important to be able to hear you.",4710.84,4713.2,{"idx":4421,"utterance_id":4422,"speaker_name":8,"text":4423,"start_s":4424,"end_s":4425,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},701,"83422","It is very important that we have people listening; it is very important that we have people speaking.",4713.78,4719.1,{"idx":4427,"utterance_id":4428,"speaker_name":8,"text":4429,"start_s":4430,"end_s":4431,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},702,"83423","This is dialogue.",4719.24,4720.08,{"idx":4433,"utterance_id":4434,"speaker_name":8,"text":4435,"start_s":4436,"end_s":4437,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},703,"83424","And nothing is done without dialogue.",4720.58,4723.22,{"idx":4439,"utterance_id":4440,"speaker_name":8,"text":4441,"start_s":4442,"end_s":4443,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},704,"83425","Everything we...",4724.08,4724.74,{"idx":4445,"utterance_id":4446,"speaker_name":8,"text":4447,"start_s":4448,"end_s":4449,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},705,"83426","You can delete it afterwards, no problem.",4730.26,4731.94,{"idx":4451,"utterance_id":4452,"speaker_name":8,"text":4453,"start_s":4454,"end_s":4455,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},706,"83427","But I know you won't delete it, because I'm going to say things from the heart.",4732.68,4735.78,{"idx":4457,"utterance_id":4458,"speaker_name":8,"text":4459,"start_s":4460,"end_s":4461,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},707,"83428","Tchê Kretio Mirim, my name is Soraya, I have been a public servant in the Municipal Education Network for 43 years.",4735.9,4740.66,{"idx":4463,"utterance_id":4464,"speaker_name":8,"text":4465,"start_s":4466,"end_s":4467,"word_count":234,"indexable":13},708,"83429","I had the honor, the pleasure and the glory of working in the three PT administrations here in São Paulo, especially with our dear Cida Pérez, who is here with us.",4741.12,4750.4,{"idx":4469,"utterance_id":4470,"speaker_name":8,"text":4471,"start_s":4472,"end_s":4473,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},709,"83430","And also to work on the inauguration of the CELS.",4752.44,4755.04,{"idx":4475,"utterance_id":4476,"speaker_name":8,"text":4477,"start_s":4478,"end_s":4479,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},710,"83431","At CELS I worked 10 years at CECI Jaraguá, sir you were there too, in that CECI Jaraguá experience.",4755.34,4760.76,{"idx":4481,"utterance_id":4482,"speaker_name":8,"text":4483,"start_s":4484,"end_s":4485,"word_count":234,"indexable":13},711,"83432","And I didn't leave there, I stayed, I'm still there today, my heart is with the people, although I returned to teaching high school, as I discussed with my colleague here.",4761.58,4769.28,{"idx":4487,"utterance_id":4488,"speaker_name":8,"text":4489,"start_s":4490,"end_s":4491,"word_count":264,"indexable":13},712,"83433","Now, what I want to highlight, which I consider fundamentally relevant, having had the experience of working in the village together with the Icupiambarandu State School, was the fact that the SESI is a kind of heaven.",4769.9,4781.62,{"idx":4493,"utterance_id":4494,"speaker_name":8,"text":4495,"start_s":4496,"end_s":4497,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},713,"83434","For those who don't know what I mean by 'heaven,' SESI is the Center for Indigenous Education and Culture.",4781.76,4786.06,{"idx":4499,"utterance_id":4500,"speaker_name":8,"text":4501,"start_s":4502,"end_s":4503,"word_count":228,"indexable":13},714,"83435","And in the village we work together, it's not segregated, there is no wall, nothing, and there we had the opportunity to hold children's and youth environmental conferences.",4786.52,4797.38,{"idx":4505,"utterance_id":4506,"speaker_name":8,"text":4507,"start_s":4508,"end_s":4509,"word_count":240,"indexable":13},715,"83436","So, with this wonderful experience, our minister Marina was in Brasília; I had the opportunity to beg on my knees at the NEI, Indigenous Education Center of the State of São Paulo, there at Praça da República.",4797.9,4807.96,{"idx":4511,"utterance_id":4512,"speaker_name":8,"text":4513,"start_s":4514,"end_s":4515,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},716,"83437","to ensure that indigenous children had the opportunity to participate.",4808.62,4812.18,{"idx":4517,"utterance_id":4518,"speaker_name":8,"text":4519,"start_s":4520,"end_s":4521,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},717,"83438","As I was told that indigenous children don't understand anything about the environment at that time.",4812.76,4817.3,{"idx":4523,"utterance_id":4524,"speaker_name":8,"text":4525,"start_s":4526,"end_s":4527,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},718,"83439","Everyone will... They understand, we know they understand.",4818.42,4822.48,{"idx":4529,"utterance_id":4530,"speaker_name":8,"text":4531,"start_s":4532,"end_s":4533,"word_count":150,"indexable":13},719,"83440","So we insisted and went, we broke the bubble and went to Brasília, where we were received, including, by Minister Marina Silva.",4823.06,4830.32,{"idx":4535,"utterance_id":4536,"speaker_name":8,"text":4537,"start_s":4538,"end_s":4539,"word_count":366,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4540,"target_proposition":4541,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":4542,"indexable":191},720,"83441","So, I just want to ask, to close, and to say here with a heart full of love, joy and hope, with eyes moist, as many people I see here are, that under the government of Fernanda Haddad we resume the experience of children's and youth conferences within the context of schooling.",4830.56,4848.96,"e04c89fc-a1ee-490d-9479-f5757b8ff846","resume child and youth conferences in schools under Fernanda Haddad's government","Explicitly requests that the government resume children's and youth conferences.",{"idx":4544,"utterance_id":4545,"speaker_name":8,"text":4546,"start_s":4547,"end_s":4548,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},721,"83442","Because it's from there that we are speaking with children who are part of our reality.",4849,4853.84,{"idx":4550,"utterance_id":4551,"speaker_name":8,"text":4552,"start_s":4553,"end_s":4554,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},722,"83443","Child to child.",4853.92,4855.14,{"idx":4556,"utterance_id":4557,"speaker_name":8,"text":4558,"start_s":4559,"end_s":4560,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},723,"83444","And thank you very much.",4855.54,4856.2,{"idx":4562,"utterance_id":4563,"speaker_name":8,"text":4564,"start_s":4565,"end_s":4566,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},724,"83445","Congratulations.",4856.6,4857.04,{"idx":4568,"utterance_id":4569,"speaker_name":8,"text":4570,"start_s":4571,"end_s":4572,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},725,"83446","I yield the floor.",4857.12,4857.76,{"idx":4574,"utterance_id":4575,"speaker_name":8,"text":4576,"start_s":4577,"end_s":4578,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},726,"83447","What is your name?",4864.06,4864.64,{"idx":4580,"utterance_id":4581,"speaker_name":8,"text":4582,"start_s":4583,"end_s":4584,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},727,"83448","Soraya, thank you very much for your speech.",4866.08,4868.06,{"idx":4586,"utterance_id":4587,"speaker_name":8,"text":4588,"start_s":4589,"end_s":4590,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},728,"83449","Thank you very much for contributing to our debate.",4868.34,4870.52,{"idx":4592,"utterance_id":4593,"speaker_name":8,"text":4594,"start_s":4595,"end_s":4596,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},729,"83450","Everything we heard here was very concerning.",4870.96,4874.1,{"idx":4598,"utterance_id":4599,"speaker_name":8,"text":4600,"start_s":4601,"end_s":4602,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},730,"83451","It raises an alarm about an education model that is sick and excludes those who need it most.",4874.16,4880.02,{"idx":4604,"utterance_id":4605,"speaker_name":8,"text":4606,"start_s":4607,"end_s":4608,"word_count":228,"indexable":13},731,"83452","Hearing you, people who are truly committed to São Paulo's education and decided not to fold your arms in the face of such neglect, is a beacon for the future we want to build together.",4881.14,4892.9,{"idx":4610,"utterance_id":4611,"speaker_name":8,"text":4612,"start_s":4613,"end_s":4614,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},732,"83453","Thank you for your courage to denounce and remain firm in this struggle.",4893.82,4898.02,{"idx":4616,"utterance_id":4617,"speaker_name":8,"text":4618,"start_s":4619,"end_s":4620,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":4621,"target_proposition":4622,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":4623,"indexable":191},733,"83454","Now, more than ever, it is necessary to act and propose new paths for public education in São Paulo.",4900.66,4905.94,"7c579faf-698a-4d95-bdb7-48b6ed0ce679","debate and formulate public education policies","States 'é preciso agir e propor novos caminhos' for São Paulo's education.",{"idx":4625,"utterance_id":4626,"speaker_name":8,"text":4627,"start_s":4628,"end_s":4629,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},734,"83455","We cannot let our State fall behind precisely in an area that has always been a protagonist.",4906.5,4911.62,{"idx":4631,"utterance_id":4632,"speaker_name":8,"text":4633,"start_s":4634,"end_s":4635,"word_count":346,"indexable":13},735,"83456","Therefore, I would like to now invite Ana Estela Haddad, this great researcher and university professor, someone with so much expertise, to help us understand what these accounts say about São Paulo's education and what paths can put São Paulo back in the leadership of Brazilian education.",4912.5,4934.28,{"idx":4637,"utterance_id":4638,"speaker_name":8,"text":4639,"start_s":4640,"end_s":4641,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},736,"83457","Ana Estela, please.",4934.78,4935.84,{"idx":4643,"utterance_id":4644,"speaker_name":8,"text":4645,"start_s":4646,"end_s":4647,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},737,"83458","Well, first... He suggested I stand up, I think I will comply.",4944.26,4950.46,{"idx":4649,"utterance_id":4650,"speaker_name":8,"text":4651,"start_s":4652,"end_s":4653,"word_count":252,"indexable":13},738,"83459","First, I wanted to say that it's a special morning to be here with all of you and to hear these testimonies from people so prepared and who bring their lived experience in an area that is so fundamental to society.",4952.84,4974.58,{"idx":4655,"utterance_id":4656,"speaker_name":8,"text":4657,"start_s":4658,"end_s":4659,"word_count":161,"indexable":13},739,"83460","I would also like to tell you that, well, I want to speak little because I think we have two very important people to hear here.",4975.84,4984.2,{"idx":4661,"utterance_id":4662,"speaker_name":8,"text":4663,"start_s":4664,"end_s":4665,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},740,"83461","I wanted to again express my joy about the ticket, which was confirmed this weekend.",4985.36,4992.22,{"idx":4667,"utterance_id":4668,"speaker_name":8,"text":4669,"start_s":4670,"end_s":4671,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":4672,"topic_label":4673,"target_id":4674,"target_proposition":4675,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":4676,"indexable":191},741,"83462","I think São Paulo having two female candidates for the Senate, like Simone Tebet and Marina Silva, is a source of pride.",4996.8,5006.52,"processo-eleitoral","Electoral Process","a11b858e-de65-4634-be3d-1c3e5e5f5c85","elect Simone Tebet and Marina Silva as senators for São Paulo","Declares pride in the female candidates and offers emotional support for their election.",{"idx":4678,"utterance_id":4679,"speaker_name":8,"text":4680,"start_s":4681,"end_s":4682,"word_count":20,"topic_slug":4672,"topic_label":4673,"target_id":4674,"target_proposition":4675,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":3637,"rationale":4683,"indexable":191},742,"83463","And I want to work hard so that they are elected senators for São Paulo.",5007.2,5013.8,"Says 'quero trabalhar muito para que elas se elejam', explicit support.",{"idx":4685,"utterance_id":4686,"speaker_name":8,"text":4687,"start_s":4688,"end_s":4689,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},743,"83464","And, well, Haddad, besides accompanying him as a companion, I want to tell you that I have great admiration for him as well, regardless of that, and for his trajectory in education.",5015.22,5031.88,{"idx":4691,"utterance_id":4692,"speaker_name":8,"text":4693,"start_s":4694,"end_s":4695,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},744,"83465","He was a minister of education who made a big difference.",5032.8,5036.74,{"idx":4697,"utterance_id":4698,"speaker_name":8,"text":4699,"start_s":4700,"end_s":4701,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},745,"83466","With much vision, and who did a great deal for the country.",5037.74,5041.08,{"idx":4703,"utterance_id":4704,"speaker_name":8,"text":4705,"start_s":4706,"end_s":4707,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},746,"83467","I also want to send greetings to Cida Pérez and congratulate her for being here with us.",5041.3,5046.78,{"idx":4709,"utterance_id":4710,"speaker_name":8,"text":4711,"start_s":4712,"end_s":4713,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},747,"83468","Well, and then, hearing you, Ana, what a thing, hearing students, hearing faculty here, makes us see the situation so difficult and challenging that they are in, of oppression, a situation of real oppression.",5052.04,5075.46,{"idx":4715,"utterance_id":4716,"speaker_name":8,"text":4717,"start_s":4718,"end_s":4719,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},748,"83469","And of something we do not want, we want the antithesis of what education should be.",5076.96,5085.16,{"idx":4721,"utterance_id":4722,"speaker_name":8,"text":4723,"start_s":4724,"end_s":4725,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},749,"83470","Education, André, you are entirely right about Paulo Freire, that it is not the banking model of education; respect the chair, the academic freedom of the professor in the classroom.",5086.72,5097.22,{"idx":4727,"utterance_id":4728,"speaker_name":8,"text":4729,"start_s":4730,"end_s":4731,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},750,"83471","Learning begins with the connection that is affective, that is emotional.",5098.24,5111.86,{"idx":4733,"utterance_id":4734,"speaker_name":8,"text":4735,"start_s":4736,"end_s":4737,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},751,"83472","The rational and the cognitive come afterwards.",5112.62,5115.2,{"idx":4739,"utterance_id":4740,"speaker_name":8,"text":4741,"start_s":4742,"end_s":4743,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},752,"83473","When this affective bond is... respected, nurtured between the teacher and their students.",5115.98,5124.34,{"idx":4745,"utterance_id":4746,"speaker_name":8,"text":4747,"start_s":4748,"end_s":4749,"word_count":150,"indexable":13},753,"83474","The teacher's freedom in the classroom is fundamental for the teacher to develop their work and to ensure that students learn.",5124.74,5133.2,{"idx":4751,"utterance_id":4752,"speaker_name":8,"text":4753,"start_s":4754,"end_s":4755,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},754,"83475","Respect for diversity, and you're absolutely right, Luciana, the benefit of diversity in school is mutual.",5133.58,5142.94,{"idx":4757,"utterance_id":4758,"speaker_name":8,"text":4759,"start_s":4760,"end_s":4761,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},755,"83476","Valuing each person's individuality enriches education, it enriches our society.",5143.68,5148.92,{"idx":4763,"utterance_id":4764,"speaker_name":8,"text":4765,"start_s":4766,"end_s":4767,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},756,"83477","Otherwise, we will create automatons.",5149,5151.56,{"idx":4769,"utterance_id":4770,"speaker_name":8,"text":4771,"start_s":4772,"end_s":4773,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},757,"83478","And we are deconstructing education.",5154.06,5156.18,{"idx":4775,"utterance_id":4776,"speaker_name":8,"text":4777,"start_s":4778,"end_s":4779,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},758,"83479","So, anyway, I think many things have been raised here.",5157.5,5160.86,{"idx":4781,"utterance_id":4782,"speaker_name":8,"text":4783,"start_s":4784,"end_s":4785,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},759,"83480","Levi, I think your testimony is very important.",5161.8,5165.72,{"idx":4787,"utterance_id":4788,"speaker_name":8,"text":4789,"start_s":4790,"end_s":4791,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},760,"83481","The barriers are enormous in our society.",5166.44,5170.1,{"idx":4793,"utterance_id":4794,"speaker_name":8,"text":4795,"start_s":4796,"end_s":4797,"word_count":258,"indexable":13},761,"83482","And perhaps your presence and your experience in the spaces you occupy are very important to remind those who are there and can make a difference how much we need to advance to reduce accessibility barriers.",5170.7,5186.58,{"idx":4799,"utterance_id":4800,"speaker_name":8,"text":4801,"start_s":4802,"end_s":4803,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},762,"83483","So, don't give up, despite the difficulties.",5187.02,5190.28,{"idx":4805,"utterance_id":4806,"speaker_name":8,"text":4807,"start_s":4808,"end_s":4809,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},763,"83484","Well, I am deeply moved by everything that has been brought up and said here.",5191.7,5198.06,{"idx":4811,"utterance_id":4812,"speaker_name":8,"text":4813,"start_s":4814,"end_s":4815,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},764,"83485","And I think all of this is very valuable and rich material for the construction of the government plan for the State of São Paulo.",5198.88,5208.4,{"idx":4817,"utterance_id":4818,"speaker_name":8,"text":4819,"start_s":4820,"end_s":4821,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},765,"83486","I'll touch less on higher education issues; I think they were already addressed here, and they are also very important.",5208.44,5213.66,{"idx":4823,"utterance_id":4824,"speaker_name":8,"text":4825,"start_s":4826,"end_s":4827,"word_count":240,"indexable":13},766,"83487","The State of São Paulo has great strength with the state institutions of São Paulo, but, anyway, I think it's very important that we... place the critical perspective that has been given to the issue of high school.",5213.72,5226.62,{"idx":4829,"utterance_id":4830,"speaker_name":8,"text":4831,"start_s":4832,"end_s":4833,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},767,"83488","Rosana, what an experience you must have had, from '88 until now.",5226.68,5230.84,{"idx":4835,"utterance_id":4836,"speaker_name":8,"text":4837,"start_s":4838,"end_s":4839,"word_count":315,"indexable":13},768,"83489","How good that you had that persistence and that teachers with so much grit, when you share your personal data packages, which nowadays is sometimes so difficult for everyone, to help your students, to bring a different perspective, to open their minds.",5231.44,5247.44,{"idx":4841,"utterance_id":4842,"speaker_name":8,"text":4843,"start_s":4844,"end_s":4845,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},769,"83490","To Hamilton Santos, anyway.",5248.08,5249.36,{"idx":4847,"utterance_id":4848,"speaker_name":8,"text":4849,"start_s":4850,"end_s":4851,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},770,"83491","Congratulations on your work.",5250.76,5252.8,{"idx":4853,"utterance_id":4854,"speaker_name":8,"text":4855,"start_s":4856,"end_s":4857,"word_count":379,"indexable":13},771,"83492","And what I wanted to say to all of you, students, teachers, Andressa, regarding your mobility issue, and on all matters, is that you deserve, not this government that is in power now, but a real government that can address all those hopes so important and so rich that you have brought here.",5253.02,5274.12,{"idx":4859,"utterance_id":4860,"speaker_name":8,"text":4861,"start_s":4862,"end_s":4863,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},772,"83493","And I hope that this can happen.",5274.88,5277.04,{"idx":4865,"utterance_id":4866,"speaker_name":8,"text":4867,"start_s":4868,"end_s":4869,"word_count":391,"topic_slug":197,"topic_label":198,"target_id":4870,"target_proposition":4871,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":4872,"indexable":191},773,"83494","and that we can turn this page and build another story, a story aligned with the country project we defend, which many public policies already implemented by the governments of the PT (Workers' Party) — by President Lula, by President Dilma, by Haddad here in São Paulo and many others — built.",5277.98,5300.8,"24bf152c-eaca-42bb-9e3c-821ab9cb079e","resume and strengthen public policies implemented by PT governments","Advocates aligning the government plan with policies already implemented by PT.",{"idx":4874,"utterance_id":4875,"speaker_name":8,"text":4876,"start_s":4877,"end_s":4878,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},774,"83495","Which is nothing like what's in place now; a government that listens to the people, that listens to the population and that builds together with social participation and a sense of belonging.",5300.98,5310.24,{"idx":4880,"utterance_id":4881,"speaker_name":8,"text":4882,"start_s":4883,"end_s":4884,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},775,"83496","So, let's hope for the best.",5311.08,5313.8,{"idx":4886,"utterance_id":4887,"speaker_name":8,"text":4888,"start_s":4889,"end_s":4890,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},776,"83497","Thank you very much, Anistela.",5322.74,5323.98,{"idx":4892,"utterance_id":4893,"speaker_name":8,"text":4894,"start_s":4895,"end_s":4896,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},777,"83498","Is there a young man who wants to speak here?",5324.84,5326.36,{"idx":4898,"utterance_id":4899,"speaker_name":8,"text":4900,"start_s":4901,"end_s":4902,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},778,"83499","Excuse me, excuse me.",5327.36,5328.44,{"idx":4904,"utterance_id":4905,"speaker_name":8,"text":4906,"start_s":4907,"end_s":4908,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},779,"83500","Well, folks, I apologize for interrupting unexpectedly, but I believe this is fighting the system.",5329.16,5334.46,{"idx":4910,"utterance_id":4911,"speaker_name":8,"text":4912,"start_s":4913,"end_s":4914,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},780,"83501","Taking advantage of the opportunity you have, which I may not have again for a long time.",5335.1,5338.7,{"idx":4916,"utterance_id":4917,"speaker_name":8,"text":4918,"start_s":4919,"end_s":4920,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},781,"83502","Haddad, I believe that... obviously education is the top priority, but I need to talk about police violence.",5339.4,5346.54,{"idx":4922,"utterance_id":4923,"speaker_name":8,"text":4924,"start_s":4925,"end_s":4926,"word_count":264,"topic_slug":4927,"topic_label":4928,"target_id":4929,"target_proposition":4930,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":4931,"indexable":191},782,"83503","I need to talk about this, because we know what happens, that this has happened since the dictatorship and that it's already an intrinsic system in our society, but under Tarcísio's government it got absurdly worse.",5346.7,5358.1,"seguranca-nacional","National Security","a603256e-7e3f-4663-b249-81f2b6affcad","combat police violence and racial discrimination in policing","Criticizes the worsening of police violence under Tarcísio's government and calls for change.",{"idx":4933,"utterance_id":4934,"speaker_name":8,"text":4935,"start_s":4936,"end_s":4937,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},783,"83504","In an absurd way.",5358.3,5359.32,{"idx":4939,"utterance_id":4940,"speaker_name":8,"text":4941,"start_s":4942,"end_s":4943,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},784,"83505","And it seems that, as each day passes, the situation only gets worse.",5359.88,5364.56,{"idx":4945,"utterance_id":4946,"speaker_name":8,"text":4947,"start_s":4948,"end_s":4949,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},785,"83506","People, why am I talking about this?",5365.04,5366.66,{"idx":4951,"utterance_id":4952,"speaker_name":8,"text":4953,"start_s":4954,"end_s":4955,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},786,"83507","The climate with the far-right?",5366.8,5368.1,{"idx":4957,"utterance_id":4958,"speaker_name":8,"text":4959,"start_s":4960,"end_s":4961,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},787,"83508","I'm speaking from my heart.",5368.14,5369.62,{"idx":4963,"utterance_id":4964,"speaker_name":8,"text":4965,"start_s":4966,"end_s":4967,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},788,"83509","It's a climate of war, 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worker.",5382.7,5384.36,{"idx":4993,"utterance_id":4994,"speaker_name":8,"text":4995,"start_s":4996,"end_s":4997,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},793,"83514","Where I work, I'm really a factory worker.",5384.62,5386.96,{"idx":4999,"utterance_id":5000,"speaker_name":8,"text":5001,"start_s":5002,"end_s":5003,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},794,"83515","Where I work, the workers... it's hard to convince them not to vote for Tarcísio.",5387.02,5390.78,{"idx":5005,"utterance_id":5006,"speaker_name":8,"text":5007,"start_s":5008,"end_s":5009,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},795,"83516","And I'm in this fight trying to convince these guys, but it's complicated.",5391.24,5394.68,{"idx":5011,"utterance_id":5012,"speaker_name":8,"text":5013,"start_s":5014,"end_s":5015,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},796,"83517","If I don't talk about this here, I know it will be hard to talk about it elsewhere.",5395.08,5397.94,{"idx":5017,"utterance_id":5018,"speaker_name":8,"text":5019,"start_s":5020,"end_s":5021,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},797,"83518","The other point will also be quick.",5398.42,5399.72,{"idx":5023,"utterance_id":5024,"speaker_name":8,"text":5025,"start_s":5026,"end_s":5027,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},798,"83519","to conclude.",5399.78,5400.34,{"idx":5029,"utterance_id":5030,"speaker_name":8,"text":5031,"start_s":5032,"end_s":5033,"word_count":131,"indexable":13},799,"83520","Over the last ten years that I've been involved in the struggles in São Paulo, I managed to attend some leftist events.",5401,5408.74,{"idx":5035,"utterance_id":5036,"speaker_name":8,"text":5037,"start_s":5038,"end_s":5039,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},800,"83521","And I'm speaking from the heart.",5408.78,5409.82,{"idx":5041,"utterance_id":5042,"speaker_name":8,"text":5043,"start_s":5044,"end_s":5045,"word_count":85,"indexable":13},801,"83522","I saw many people who look at not only me, but my other artist brothers, with disdain for not being part of that environment.",5410.3,5416.28,{"idx":5047,"utterance_id":5048,"speaker_name":8,"text":5049,"start_s":5050,"end_s":5051,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},802,"83523","within the left.",5416.84,5417.84,{"idx":5053,"utterance_id":5054,"speaker_name":8,"text":5055,"start_s":5056,"end_s":5057,"word_count":67,"topic_slug":4672,"topic_label":4673,"target_id":5058,"target_proposition":5059,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":5060,"indexable":13},803,"83524","You are losing young people to the MBL because of that.",5418.8,5421.86,"48a7947d-4eb0-4584-8310-e78e5ee4254d","reconquer and engage young voters for the left","Warns that young people are going to MBL and calls for a political response.",{"idx":5062,"utterance_id":5063,"speaker_name":8,"text":5064,"start_s":5065,"end_s":5066,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},804,"83525","This cannot happen under any circumstances.",5422.2,5423.9,{"idx":5068,"utterance_id":5069,"speaker_name":8,"text":5070,"start_s":5071,"end_s":5072,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},805,"83526","Look at the person next to you.",5424.64,5425.82,{"idx":5074,"utterance_id":5075,"speaker_name":8,"text":5076,"start_s":5077,"end_s":5078,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},806,"83527","You don't need to hug them or be outwardly friendly, but look, see if they are comfortable.",5425.86,5428.84,{"idx":5080,"utterance_id":5081,"speaker_name":8,"text":5082,"start_s":5083,"end_s":5084,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},807,"83528","Let them speak.",5429.22,5429.92,{"idx":5086,"utterance_id":5087,"speaker_name":8,"text":5088,"start_s":5089,"end_s":5090,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},808,"83529","It's a unique opportunity.",5430.24,5431.38,{"idx":5092,"utterance_id":5093,"speaker_name":8,"text":5094,"start_s":5095,"end_s":5096,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},809,"83530","We are losing the war.",5431.66,5432.66,{"idx":5098,"utterance_id":5099,"speaker_name":8,"text":5100,"start_s":5101,"end_s":5102,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},810,"83531","I see kids who studied with me who today are joining in omission.",5432.7,5436.36,{"idx":5104,"utterance_id":5105,"speaker_name":8,"text":5106,"start_s":5107,"end_s":5108,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},811,"83532","We are losing.",5436.68,5437.6,{"idx":5110,"utterance_id":5111,"speaker_name":8,"text":5112,"start_s":5113,"end_s":5114,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":4927,"topic_label":4928,"target_id":4929,"target_proposition":4930,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":5115,"indexable":191},812,"83533","We have my brothers dying, getting slapped in the face by the military police at night, who can't say anything.",5437.94,5441.7,"Relates a personal experience of police violence; descriptive 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house.",5466.86,5468.9,{"idx":5170,"utterance_id":5171,"speaker_name":8,"text":5172,"start_s":5173,"end_s":5174,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":5175,"topic_label":5176,"target_id":5177,"target_proposition":5178,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":5179,"indexable":191},822,"83543","When we talk about education, I believe you can't talk about education without talking about hunger.",5469.56,5475.36,"seguranca-alimentar","Food Security","6704aa4d-00af-4d4a-8981-33c989e545c8","implement and expand school feeding programs and policies to fight student hunger","States that nobody learns on an empty stomach, advocating school feeding policies.",{"idx":5181,"utterance_id":5182,"speaker_name":8,"text":5183,"start_s":5184,"end_s":5185,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},823,"83544","Nobody learns anything on an empty stomach.",5475.88,5477.7,{"idx":5187,"utterance_id":5188,"speaker_name":8,"text":5189,"start_s":5190,"end_s":5191,"word_count":264,"indexable":13},824,"83545","Because what I learned at my school, Escola Estadual Batista Cepelos in Cotia, State School, what I learned from hunger was that if you have no options, you'll leave school and go to the drug corner.",5478.12,5489.08,{"idx":5193,"utterance_id":5194,"speaker_name":8,"text":5195,"start_s":5196,"end_s":5197,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},825,"83546","At 12 years old, I couldn't concentrate in school because I was very busy.",5490.4,5494.34,{"idx":5199,"utterance_id":5200,"speaker_name":8,"text":5201,"start_s":5202,"end_s":5203,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},826,"83547","trying to convince my friend Renan not to kill himself because he was addicted to cocaine.",5494.86,5498.96,{"idx":5205,"utterance_id":5206,"speaker_name":8,"text":5207,"start_s":5208,"end_s":5209,"word_count":438,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5210,"target_proposition":5211,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":5212,"indexable":191},827,"83548","So, I want to demand a stance that is not a palliative, that is not a temporary solution to our problem in education, to our problem in infrastructure, because those who live day to day, who are the people... like me, like my brother here next to me knows, that the Brazilian Constitution in our country is a joke, because nothing is respected.",5499.9,5522.06,"47e7bbe6-d082-487d-bf4a-81be536f6294","adopt structural policies for public education","Demands a non-palliative approach to the problem of education.",{"idx":5214,"utterance_id":5215,"speaker_name":8,"text":5216,"start_s":5217,"end_s":5218,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},828,"83549","Divine right exists, right?",5522.5,5524.34,{"idx":5220,"utterance_id":5221,"speaker_name":8,"text":5222,"start_s":5223,"end_s":5224,"word_count":12,"topic_slug":4927,"topic_label":4928,"target_id":4929,"target_proposition":4930,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":1383,"rationale":5225,"indexable":13},829,"83550","Police violence is constant.",5524.44,5526.02,"Reports ongoing police violence, without proposing explicit action.",{"idx":5227,"utterance_id":5228,"speaker_name":8,"text":5229,"start_s":5230,"end_s":5231,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":5232,"topic_label":5233,"target_id":5234,"target_proposition":5235,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":5236,"indexable":13},830,"83551","We don't have access to housing unless we slave away to be able to pay the bill.",5526.28,5531.22,"politica-de-habitacao","Housing policy","c46868a7-7f85-4c3b-a4cf-00929fb85222","ensure access to housing for LGBT people","States lack of access to housing as a description of reality.",{"idx":5238,"utterance_id":5239,"speaker_name":8,"text":5240,"start_s":5241,"end_s":5242,"word_count":69,"topic_slug":5175,"topic_label":5176,"target_id":5243,"target_proposition":5244,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":5245,"indexable":13},831,"83552","We don't have proper access to food, right?",5531.56,5533.72,"a6a83b7a-f4a7-463a-b937-1ccc0b72face","ensure food security for families in vulnerable situations","Reports lack of access to food, without proposing explicit policy.",{"idx":5247,"utterance_id":5248,"speaker_name":8,"text":5249,"start_s":5250,"end_s":5251,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},832,"83553","I didn't want to speak in this tone.",5534.02,5535.64,{"idx":5253,"utterance_id":5254,"speaker_name":8,"text":5255,"start_s":5256,"end_s":5257,"word_count":252,"topic_slug":197,"topic_label":198,"target_id":5258,"target_proposition":5259,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":4146,"rationale":5260,"indexable":13},833,"83554","but it's the tone of a person who has been surviving for six months on one meal a day, working delivery, working as a mason's helper, working in a factory, doing everything I could to survive.",5536.1,5546.84,"642d9b44-2b7a-40cf-bb42-ac23fd0653ed","expand the reach of public policies to vulnerable populations","Describes precarious survival and informal work, without a direct proposal.",{"idx":5262,"utterance_id":5263,"speaker_name":8,"text":5264,"start_s":5265,"end_s":5266,"word_count":222,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5267,"target_proposition":5268,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":1383,"rationale":5269,"indexable":13},834,"83555","I couldn't finish high school because high school became a new high school, the school I attended became a full-time school and I could no longer continue.",5547.36,5555.92,"3067d428-77e2-4080-8106-568c4384000a","support keeping young people in school through programs","Reports not having finished high school due to a change in the school format.",{"idx":5271,"utterance_id":5272,"speaker_name":8,"text":5273,"start_s":5274,"end_s":5275,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5276,"target_proposition":5277,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":5278,"indexable":13},835,"83556","I'm in my daily struggle to be able to study, to see if I can do ENSEJA to finish my schooling and not repeat years.",5556.36,5563.08,"1b9f9151-e604-4fba-9db2-fa1b3f92d7a8","expand youth and adult education (EJA) programs","Speaks about personal efforts to complete education via ENSEJA, without proposing explicit policy.",{"idx":5280,"utterance_id":5281,"speaker_name":8,"text":5282,"start_s":5283,"end_s":5284,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":5285,"topic_label":5286,"target_id":5287,"target_proposition":5288,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":4138,"rationale":5289,"indexable":13},836,"83557","The cycle of my family, which unfortunately is a very sad cycle of a grandfather and a father who are ex-convicts, and trying to escape this cycle of violence.",5563.68,5571.02,"atuacao-das-instituicoes-de-seguranca-e-justica","Security and Justice Institutions","4650cd94-607e-4c24-bfcc-0753ef7084ba","implement social reintegration policies for people released from the prison system","Mentions a family cycle of ex-prisoners and an attempt to escape violence.",{"idx":5291,"utterance_id":5292,"speaker_name":8,"text":5293,"start_s":5294,"end_s":5295,"word_count":131,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5296,"target_proposition":5297,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":5298,"indexable":191},837,"83558","I just want to say it's very hard to focus on education when there's violence, and the cycle of violence pursues you all the time.",5571.36,5576.58,"4ce065e8-e956-494d-87bc-27d999fb35a2","ensure order and discipline in classrooms","Says it is difficult to focus on education in the face of violence, without indicating concrete measures.",{"idx":5300,"utterance_id":5301,"speaker_name":8,"text":1946,"start_s":5302,"end_s":5303,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},838,"83559",5577.32,5577.8,{"idx":5305,"utterance_id":5306,"speaker_name":8,"text":5307,"start_s":5308,"end_s":5309,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},839,"83560","What's your name?",5582.56,5583.24,{"idx":5311,"utterance_id":5312,"speaker_name":8,"text":5307,"start_s":5313,"end_s":5314,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},840,"83561",5584.68,5585.22,{"idx":5316,"utterance_id":5317,"speaker_name":8,"text":5318,"start_s":5319,"end_s":5320,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},841,"83562","Jôzinho and?",5587.4,5588.14,{"idx":5322,"utterance_id":5323,"speaker_name":8,"text":5324,"start_s":5325,"end_s":5326,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},842,"83563","Magnólio?",5590,5590.52,{"idx":5328,"utterance_id":5329,"speaker_name":8,"text":5330,"start_s":5331,"end_s":5332,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},843,"83564","Thank you very much for your remarks.",5591.82,5593.76,{"idx":5334,"utterance_id":5335,"speaker_name":8,"text":5336,"start_s":5337,"end_s":5338,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},844,"83565","They were very important, yes.",5594.26,5595.68,{"idx":5340,"utterance_id":5341,"speaker_name":8,"text":5342,"start_s":5343,"end_s":5344,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},845,"83566","I know there are many more people who want to speak, but we have limited time.",5595.82,5600.82,{"idx":5346,"utterance_id":5347,"speaker_name":8,"text":5348,"start_s":5349,"end_s":5350,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},846,"83567","So, we will have to keep to that time, everyone.",5601.16,5603.86,{"idx":5352,"utterance_id":5353,"speaker_name":8,"text":5354,"start_s":5355,"end_s":5356,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},847,"83568","Studio time, time for our guests.",5603.92,5606.94,{"idx":5358,"utterance_id":5359,"speaker_name":8,"text":5360,"start_s":5361,"end_s":5362,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},848,"83569","So, I will proceed here.",5607.22,5609.08,{"idx":5364,"utterance_id":5365,"speaker_name":8,"text":5366,"start_s":5367,"end_s":5368,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},849,"83570","I ask your permission to continue the event.",5609.68,5612.24,{"idx":5370,"utterance_id":5371,"speaker_name":8,"text":5372,"start_s":5373,"end_s":5374,"word_count":56,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5375,"target_proposition":5376,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":5377,"indexable":13},850,"83571","Education is never an isolated topic.",5612.38,5616.48,"a38e58a8-b76f-4c02-971d-3d725f384d82","integrate public education policies with security and food","States that education is never an isolated topic and links it to security and food.",{"idx":5379,"utterance_id":5380,"speaker_name":8,"text":5381,"start_s":5382,"end_s":5383,"word_count":61,"topic_slug":4927,"topic_label":4928,"target_id":5375,"target_proposition":5376,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":4138,"rationale":5384,"indexable":13},851,"83572","We are talking... about security, we are talking about food.",5616.82,5622.84,"Relates education to security and food as connected topics.",{"idx":5386,"utterance_id":5387,"speaker_name":8,"text":5388,"start_s":5389,"end_s":5390,"word_count":54,"topic_slug":197,"topic_label":198,"target_id":5391,"target_proposition":5392,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":202,"rationale":5393,"indexable":191},852,"83573","They are several issues that are connected, that must be addressed together.",5623.28,5628.16,"829781bb-dbb7-40d6-b001-12fdc4b6a23e","integrate education, security and food policies into governmental action","Says that several things must come together, advocating integration.",{"idx":5395,"utterance_id":5396,"speaker_name":8,"text":5397,"start_s":5398,"end_s":5399,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},853,"83574","Basic rights.",5628.4,5629.54,{"idx":5401,"utterance_id":5402,"speaker_name":8,"text":5403,"start_s":5404,"end_s":5405,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5406,"target_proposition":5407,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":1383,"rationale":5408,"indexable":13},854,"83575","It is linked to development, to the reduction of inequalities, to the protection of democracy, and to the construction of the future.",5629.58,5637,"78648ec4-9def-48f8-b83a-9109e911d738","ensure equitable educational opportunities for low-income youth","Links education to development and the reduction of inequalities, without concrete action.",{"idx":5410,"utterance_id":5411,"speaker_name":8,"text":5412,"start_s":5413,"end_s":5414,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},855,"83576","Therefore, I invite Marina Silva now to speak with us.",5637.52,5641.34,{"idx":5416,"utterance_id":5417,"speaker_name":8,"text":5418,"start_s":5419,"end_s":5420,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},856,"83577","One of the country's greatest references when we speak of human development and social justice.",5641.64,5647.68,{"idx":5422,"utterance_id":5423,"speaker_name":8,"text":5424,"start_s":5425,"end_s":5426,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},857,"83578","Please, Marina.",5648.24,5649.1,{"idx":5428,"utterance_id":5429,"speaker_name":8,"text":5430,"start_s":5431,"end_s":5432,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},858,"83579","Well, everyone.",5655.44,5656.1,{"idx":5434,"utterance_id":5435,"speaker_name":8,"text":5436,"start_s":5437,"end_s":5438,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},859,"83580","It's very powerful.",5659.44,5660.24,{"idx":5440,"utterance_id":5441,"speaker_name":8,"text":5442,"start_s":5443,"end_s":5444,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},860,"83581","Everything that has come up here, it's impossible not to be deeply moved by the testimony of mothers, students, and teachers.",5660.32,5672.06,{"idx":5446,"utterance_id":5447,"speaker_name":8,"text":5448,"start_s":5449,"end_s":5450,"word_count":228,"indexable":13},861,"83582","Education, in fact, is what makes the difference, it is what creates equality of opportunity; that is why I am very happy to be here alongside the dear Estela Haddad.",5672.8,5685.06,{"idx":5452,"utterance_id":5453,"speaker_name":8,"text":5454,"start_s":5455,"end_s":5456,"word_count":305,"indexable":13},862,"83583","a woman committed to the agenda of inclusion and quality, and alongside a great teacher and a great minister of education, who, with God's help and the people of the State of São Paulo, will be a great governor, so that we can give",5685.78,5708.46,{"idx":5458,"utterance_id":5459,"speaker_name":8,"text":5460,"start_s":5461,"end_s":5462,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},863,"83584","a response",5708.5,5709.22,{"idx":5464,"utterance_id":5465,"speaker_name":8,"text":5466,"start_s":5467,"end_s":5468,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},864,"83585","to all of what has been put forward here.",5709.3,5711.16,{"idx":5470,"utterance_id":5471,"speaker_name":8,"text":5472,"start_s":5473,"end_s":5474,"word_count":171,"indexable":13},865,"83586","Listening to the testimonies, we, of course, have here an immense wealth that cannot be substituted by any document we might receive from our best technicians, right, Cida?",5712.48,5729.3,{"idx":5476,"utterance_id":5477,"speaker_name":8,"text":5478,"start_s":5479,"end_s":5480,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},866,"83587","And you yourself here, in the position of a person who is listening and learning, I'm sure, aren't you?",5729.36,5736.68,{"idx":5482,"utterance_id":5483,"speaker_name":8,"text":5484,"start_s":5485,"end_s":5486,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},867,"83588","We have technicians with great capacity to make reports, proposals, guidelines that would address all these matters.",5736.9,5747.6,{"idx":5488,"utterance_id":5489,"speaker_name":8,"text":5490,"start_s":5491,"end_s":5492,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},868,"83589","But they would have no soul, they would have no face, they would have no form if it weren't for your testimonies here, with the competence with which these testimonies were given.",5748.04,5761.58,{"idx":5494,"utterance_id":5495,"speaker_name":8,"text":5496,"start_s":5497,"end_s":5498,"word_count":346,"indexable":13},869,"83590","Therefore, what happened here... and that touches me, Haddad, Estela, the dear Simone Tebet, who is on another engagement and could not be here, we are dividing ourselves across several fronts, together with our vice, Márcio França, cannot be something that can be merely reported.",5762.08,5782.92,{"idx":5500,"utterance_id":5501,"speaker_name":8,"text":5502,"start_s":5503,"end_s":5504,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},870,"83591","Reality cannot be reported.",5783.14,5786.08,{"idx":5506,"utterance_id":5507,"speaker_name":8,"text":5508,"start_s":5509,"end_s":5510,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},871,"83592","Reality has to be the one we engage with directly.",5786.54,5790.32,{"idx":5512,"utterance_id":5513,"speaker_name":8,"text":5514,"start_s":5515,"end_s":5516,"word_count":54,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5517,"target_proposition":5518,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":5519,"indexable":191},872,"83593","This is a demonstration that platforms are just tools.",5790.36,5795.44,"a133b9aa-ccef-48b1-b552-72eedd1fdc4c","put technology at the service of teachers and students","Declares that platforms are just tools and do not replace people.",{"idx":5521,"utterance_id":5522,"speaker_name":8,"text":5523,"start_s":5524,"end_s":5525,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5517,"target_proposition":5518,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":5526,"indexable":13},873,"83594","They do not replace people.",5795.9,5798.84,"Explicitly states that platforms do not replace people.",{"idx":5528,"utterance_id":5529,"speaker_name":8,"text":5530,"start_s":5531,"end_s":5532,"word_count":61,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5517,"target_proposition":5518,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":5533,"indexable":191},874,"83595","Education is not something that can be done solely by platforms.",5799.42,5805.44,"Denies that education can be carried out only by platforms, defending the teacher's role.",{"idx":5535,"utterance_id":5536,"speaker_name":8,"text":5537,"start_s":5538,"end_s":5539,"word_count":20,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5517,"target_proposition":5518,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":5540,"indexable":191},875,"83596","It should be at the service of the teacher, at the service of the student, and not the other way around.",5805.84,5812.22,"Argues that technology should be at the service of teachers and students.",{"idx":5542,"utterance_id":5543,"speaker_name":8,"text":5544,"start_s":5545,"end_s":5546,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5517,"target_proposition":5518,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":1188,"rationale":5547,"indexable":191},876,"83597","Teachers, students at the service of platforms.",5813.02,5817.06,"criticizes the inversion in which teachers end up serving platforms.",{"idx":5549,"utterance_id":5550,"speaker_name":8,"text":5551,"start_s":5552,"end_s":5553,"word_count":36,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5517,"target_proposition":5518,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":202,"rationale":5554,"indexable":13},877,"83598","It's a perverse inversion.",5817.18,5819.94,"calls the inversion (teacher serving the platform) perverse, an opposing position.",{"idx":5556,"utterance_id":5557,"speaker_name":8,"text":5558,"start_s":5559,"end_s":5560,"word_count":150,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5561,"target_proposition":5562,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":5563,"indexable":191},878,"83599","And all that we are experiencing is further aggravated by this censorship that expels creativity from the teaching and learning process.",5820.68,5832.34,"8d6fe08e-e130-4cd4-8495-d17ca276b50f","protect freedom of teaching and fight censorship in the school curriculum","says censorship worsens the loss of creativity in education, without proposing an explicit measure.",{"idx":846,"utterance_id":5565,"speaker_name":8,"text":5566,"start_s":5567,"end_s":5568,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},"83600","You know, many people who know my story, I learned to read and write at 16.",5832.38,5838.58,{"idx":5570,"utterance_id":5571,"speaker_name":8,"text":5572,"start_s":5573,"end_s":5574,"word_count":321,"indexable":13},880,"83601","I did some work, I completed primary and secondary education, I hold a degree in history, I am also a professor at the Federal University of Acre, I have a specialization in psychopedagogy, and I know, in some way, everything that is at stake in these very powerful testimonies that have been given here.",5839.02,5859.44,{"idx":5576,"utterance_id":5577,"speaker_name":8,"text":5578,"start_s":5579,"end_s":5580,"word_count":97,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5581,"target_proposition":5582,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":1188,"rationale":5583,"indexable":191},881,"83602","But I keep thinking, if there is a standard education, that education is totally deregulated.",5859.92,5868.14,"c1d7d680-f8df-4983-86c2-74df75a06e29","preserve curricular diversity and creativity in public education","criticizes standardized teaching and defends singularity and creativity in education.",{"idx":5585,"utterance_id":5586,"speaker_name":8,"text":5587,"start_s":5588,"end_s":5589,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},882,"83603","Because human beings are not standardized.",5868.54,5871.28,{"idx":5591,"utterance_id":5592,"speaker_name":8,"text":5593,"start_s":5594,"end_s":5595,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},883,"83604","Standard education would only apply if we were the same person, if we did not have singularity.",5872.14,5878.8,{"idx":5597,"utterance_id":5598,"speaker_name":8,"text":5599,"start_s":5600,"end_s":5601,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},884,"83605","We have singularities.",5879.2,5880.64,{"idx":5603,"utterance_id":5604,"speaker_name":8,"text":5605,"start_s":5606,"end_s":5607,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},885,"83606","When I entered university, I had the following experience.",5880.68,5885.12,{"idx":5609,"utterance_id":5610,"speaker_name":8,"text":5611,"start_s":5612,"end_s":5613,"word_count":173,"indexable":13},886,"83607","Most of my professors, some were from the positivist school, others were from the Marxist-Leninist school, and others came from a more Hegelian view of the approach to teaching.",5885.64,5898.6,{"idx":5615,"utterance_id":5616,"speaker_name":8,"text":5617,"start_s":5618,"end_s":5619,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},887,"83608","And, suddenly, an anthropology professor from the state of Paraná introduced me to the work of Edgar Morin.",5899.46,5908.58,{"idx":5621,"utterance_id":5622,"speaker_name":8,"text":5623,"start_s":5624,"end_s":5625,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},888,"83609","And, through him, I came to the work of Deleuze and Guattari.",5908.62,5913.88,{"idx":5627,"utterance_id":5628,"speaker_name":8,"text":5629,"start_s":5630,"end_s":5631,"word_count":240,"indexable":13},889,"83610","And, through these people, to whom I am very grateful, I formed... all of my education, including my political formation, which I think saved me from many things, at least from my perspective.",5913.94,5929.64,{"idx":5633,"utterance_id":5634,"speaker_name":8,"text":5635,"start_s":5636,"end_s":5637,"word_count":353,"indexable":13},890,"83611","Now, I imagine, if there were a platform that prohibited, that blocked Professor Lúcia Helena from introducing me to the work of Edgar Morin, which at the time was almost proscribed, because he wasn't considered an author, so to speak... At that time, there was a thinking that was the theory of complex thought.",5930.08,5951.16,{"idx":5639,"utterance_id":5640,"speaker_name":8,"text":5641,"start_s":5642,"end_s":5643,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},891,"83612","So creativity is something that needs to be present; teaching is singular.",5951.56,5959.32,{"idx":5645,"utterance_id":5646,"speaker_name":8,"text":5647,"start_s":5648,"end_s":5649,"word_count":20,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5650,"target_proposition":5582,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":202,"rationale":5651,"indexable":191},892,"83613","Therefore, this form of standardization is to break something that is terrible, to break the social bond.",5959.68,5967.06,"cdd35a77-2b0b-4664-b3aa-188fa87d3bd0","says that standardizing breaks social bonds and harms human formation.",{"idx":5653,"utterance_id":5654,"speaker_name":8,"text":5655,"start_s":5656,"end_s":5657,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},893,"83614","When you break the social bond, you are no longer forming human beings.",5967.86,5971.86,{"idx":5659,"utterance_id":5660,"speaker_name":8,"text":5661,"start_s":5662,"end_s":5663,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},894,"83615","Human beings are formed through bonds.",5972.42,5974.52,{"idx":5665,"utterance_id":5666,"speaker_name":8,"text":5667,"start_s":5668,"end_s":5669,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},895,"83616","There are processes of identification between teacher and student.",5975,5979.7,{"idx":5671,"utterance_id":5672,"speaker_name":8,"text":5673,"start_s":5674,"end_s":5675,"word_count":161,"indexable":13},896,"83617","When this process of identification is not created, before forming the bond it is already broken, you cannot... they cannot create identificatory ideals.",5980.14,5991.9,{"idx":5677,"utterance_id":5678,"speaker_name":8,"text":5679,"start_s":5680,"end_s":5681,"word_count":131,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5581,"target_proposition":5582,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":202,"rationale":5682,"indexable":191},897,"83618","Therefore, it is a perverse way of making public school students be formed as if they were sacks of tow.",5992.26,6003.04,"says that standardization turns students into 'saco de estopa', criticizing the practice.",{"idx":5684,"utterance_id":5685,"speaker_name":8,"text":5686,"start_s":5687,"end_s":5688,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},898,"83619","And we are different human beings.",6003.46,6005.88,{"idx":5690,"utterance_id":5691,"speaker_name":8,"text":5692,"start_s":5693,"end_s":5694,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},899,"83620","I doubt that people in private schools, in private education, no matter how much they use technology, are receiving standardized knowledge.",6006.58,6017,{"idx":5696,"utterance_id":5697,"speaker_name":8,"text":5698,"start_s":5699,"end_s":5700,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},900,"83621","They are not.",6017.14,6017.68,{"idx":5702,"utterance_id":5703,"speaker_name":8,"text":5704,"start_s":5705,"end_s":5706,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},901,"83622","They have customized knowledge.",6018.2,6020.38,{"idx":5708,"utterance_id":5709,"speaker_name":8,"text":5710,"start_s":5711,"end_s":5712,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5517,"target_proposition":5518,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":5713,"indexable":191},902,"83623","Therefore, on my part, I am sure — the philosopher, economist and professor Fernando Haddad, and all of us who are here — technology will be at service.",6020.7,6032.34,"says technology must be in service (to education), a position affirmed by Haddad.",{"idx":5715,"utterance_id":5716,"speaker_name":8,"text":5717,"start_s":5718,"end_s":5719,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":449,"topic_label":450,"target_id":5720,"target_proposition":5721,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":1188,"rationale":5722,"indexable":191},903,"83624","Another thing, to conclude, this view of people who treat government as if it were a company, who behave as though they were not political but a CEO.",6032.84,6043.68,"7af5f1fe-4c24-48e2-99a4-330aaac382d1","avoid treating the government like a company and preserve the public character of governance","criticizes the government-as-company view and the CEO model for public management.",{"idx":5724,"utterance_id":5725,"speaker_name":8,"text":5726,"start_s":5727,"end_s":5728,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},904,"83625","Right?",6045.92,6046.4,{"idx":5730,"utterance_id":5731,"speaker_name":8,"text":5732,"start_s":5733,"end_s":5734,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},905,"83626","This is what it leads to.",6046.78,6047.54,{"idx":5736,"utterance_id":5737,"speaker_name":8,"text":5732,"start_s":5738,"end_s":5739,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},906,"83627",6048.52,6049.2,{"idx":5741,"utterance_id":5742,"speaker_name":8,"text":5743,"start_s":5744,"end_s":5745,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},907,"83628","They don't know what they are saying, they don't know what they are doing.",6049.42,6053.36,{"idx":5747,"utterance_id":5748,"speaker_name":8,"text":5749,"start_s":5750,"end_s":5751,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},908,"83629","And furthermore, there's a problem.",6053.8,6056.16,{"idx":5753,"utterance_id":5754,"speaker_name":8,"text":5755,"start_s":5756,"end_s":5757,"word_count":56,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5758,"target_proposition":5759,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":5760,"indexable":13},909,"83630","Investing in education is a major undertaking.",6056.84,6060.2,"a83a9240-1b7b-45c9-b6fa-6f265a95c462","treat schools as public spaces, not as companies","says a school, even a private one, is not a company and it affects lives.",{"idx":5762,"utterance_id":5763,"speaker_name":8,"text":5764,"start_s":5765,"end_s":5766,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},910,"83631","Perhaps one of the greatest undertakings.",6060.62,6063.02,{"idx":5768,"utterance_id":5769,"speaker_name":8,"text":5770,"start_s":5771,"end_s":5772,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},911,"83632","But education, school—even private ones—are not companies.",6063.44,6069.22,{"idx":5774,"utterance_id":5775,"speaker_name":8,"text":5776,"start_s":5777,"end_s":5778,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},912,"83633","They are places where we are dealing with life, the future, people's emotions and outlook.",6069.84,6077.44,{"idx":5780,"utterance_id":5781,"speaker_name":8,"text":5782,"start_s":5783,"end_s":5784,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},913,"83634","And, as a teacher, I can only thank those of you who resist.",6077.94,6082.2,{"idx":5786,"utterance_id":5787,"speaker_name":8,"text":5788,"start_s":5789,"end_s":5790,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},914,"83635","When we say, 'I can't cope, I'm sick,' there is a lot.",6082.56,6087.4,{"idx":5792,"utterance_id":5793,"speaker_name":8,"text":5794,"start_s":5795,"end_s":5796,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},915,"83636","Today everything falls on the teacher.",6087.66,6089.46,{"idx":5798,"utterance_id":5799,"speaker_name":8,"text":5800,"start_s":5801,"end_s":5802,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},916,"83637","Everything.",6089.66,6089.88,{"idx":5804,"utterance_id":5805,"speaker_name":8,"text":5806,"start_s":5807,"end_s":5808,"word_count":67,"topic_slug":5809,"topic_label":5810,"target_id":5811,"target_proposition":5812,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":606,"rationale":5813,"indexable":191},917,"83638","The problems of society, the teacher has to handle them.",6091.06,6093.96,"educacao-e-saude","Education and Health","8d3c5320-6398-46bc-9b17-1fb2ba6105b0","reduce teachers' overload of duties and provide social support","says social problems are being dumped on teachers and calls for change.",{"idx":5815,"utterance_id":5816,"speaker_name":8,"text":5817,"start_s":5818,"end_s":5819,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},918,"83639","What did they do?",6094.02,6094.98,{"idx":5821,"utterance_id":5822,"speaker_name":8,"text":5823,"start_s":5824,"end_s":5825,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},919,"83640","Not even that.",6095.4,6095.78,{"idx":5827,"utterance_id":5828,"speaker_name":8,"text":5829,"start_s":5830,"end_s":5831,"word_count":36,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5517,"target_proposition":5518,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":202,"rationale":5832,"indexable":13},920,"83641","The children have more.",6095.84,6096.98,"questions whether the platform will meet children's needs, criticizing its replacement of other approaches.",{"idx":5834,"utterance_id":5835,"speaker_name":8,"text":5836,"start_s":5837,"end_s":5838,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},921,"83642","Will the platform handle it?",6097.48,6099.22,{"idx":5840,"utterance_id":5841,"speaker_name":8,"text":5842,"start_s":5843,"end_s":5844,"word_count":133,"indexable":13},922,"83643","Does the platform have the experience to bring that expertise to bear on the demand being presented in the classroom?",6099.68,6108.3,{"idx":5846,"utterance_id":5847,"speaker_name":8,"text":5848,"start_s":5849,"end_s":5850,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},923,"83644","It doesn't.",6108.76,6109.36,{"idx":5852,"utterance_id":5853,"speaker_name":8,"text":5854,"start_s":5855,"end_s":5856,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5857,"target_proposition":5858,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":5859,"rationale":5860,"indexable":13},924,"83645","Therefore, I just want to congratulate.",6109.76,6112.62,"310d04b3-6e99-4e63-8117-58770e48a9dc","maintain and increase funding for public education",0.74,"praises the resistance and says we will change this reality.",{"idx":5862,"utterance_id":5863,"speaker_name":8,"text":5864,"start_s":5865,"end_s":5866,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},925,"83646","Here, those who resist, and it's only a matter of time, they are underestimating us.",6113.08,6118.18,{"idx":5868,"utterance_id":5869,"speaker_name":8,"text":5870,"start_s":5871,"end_s":5872,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},926,"83647","God willing, we will change this reality.",6118.66,6122.26,{"idx":5874,"utterance_id":5875,"speaker_name":8,"text":5876,"start_s":5877,"end_s":5878,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},927,"83648","Thank you, Marina.",6122.3,6132.1,{"idx":5880,"utterance_id":5881,"speaker_name":8,"text":5882,"start_s":5883,"end_s":5884,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5885,"target_proposition":5886,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":5887,"indexable":191},928,"83649","To close our meeting, I invite Fernando Haddad again, the minister who made the largest expansion of federal universities and institutes in Brazil's history.",6132.58,6142.16,"1aa2822c-e8d3-4aba-9693-820f13d43521","expand access to public education and higher education","reports that Haddad carried out the largest expansion of universities and institutes.",{"idx":5889,"utterance_id":5890,"speaker_name":8,"text":5891,"start_s":5892,"end_s":5893,"word_count":85,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5894,"target_proposition":5895,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":5896,"indexable":191},929,"83650","He practically doubled the number of daycare places in the country and became the best minister of education in the history of this country.",6142.68,6150.14,"610a4b08-9786-4322-ab24-53200c6f8770","expand public daycare slots","credits Haddad with nearly doubling daycare places across the country.",{"idx":5898,"utterance_id":5899,"speaker_name":8,"text":5900,"start_s":5901,"end_s":5902,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},930,"83651","The mayor of São Paulo...",6150.86,6152.48,{"idx":5904,"utterance_id":5905,"speaker_name":8,"text":5906,"start_s":5907,"end_s":5908,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},931,"83652","Wait, there's more!",6152.52,6153.38,{"idx":5910,"utterance_id":5911,"speaker_name":8,"text":5912,"start_s":5913,"end_s":5914,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},932,"83653","The mayor of São Paulo who set a record for daycare places and took the university to the skies.",6154,6160.44,{"idx":5916,"utterance_id":5917,"speaker_name":8,"text":5918,"start_s":5919,"end_s":5920,"word_count":366,"topic_slug":5921,"topic_label":5922,"target_id":5923,"target_proposition":5924,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":1383,"rationale":5925,"indexable":13},933,"83654","The Minister of Finance who faced historical injustices, implemented a landmark tax reform, eliminated the federal tax on basic food basket items, exempted millions of Brazilians from income tax and, in partnership with education, created the Pé de Meia program, which reduced high school dropout by up to 40%.",6160.98,6182.72,"politica-fiscal-e-social","Fiscal and Social Policy","45d56ec9-0596-407e-87c2-3ab02194d50e","reduce tax burden on basic foods and exempt part of the population from income tax","says the minister zeroed the federal tax on the basic food basket and exempted millions from income tax.",{"idx":5927,"utterance_id":5928,"speaker_name":8,"text":5929,"start_s":5930,"end_s":5931,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},934,"83655","Yes, it's a lot.",6183.08,6184.02,{"idx":5933,"utterance_id":5934,"speaker_name":8,"text":5935,"start_s":5936,"end_s":5937,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},935,"83656","Where's the applause?",6184.3,6184.9,{"idx":5939,"utterance_id":5940,"speaker_name":8,"text":5941,"start_s":5942,"end_s":5943,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},936,"83657","There's no way.",6184.94,6185.44,{"idx":5945,"utterance_id":5946,"speaker_name":8,"text":5947,"start_s":5948,"end_s":5949,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},937,"83658","It's up to you, Haddad.",6186.7,6187.74,{"idx":5951,"utterance_id":5952,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":5953,"start_s":5954,"end_s":5955,"word_count":360,"indexable":13},938,"83659","Folks, I'll tell you something, after having heard so many relevant testimonies, that when you occupy a position like Minister of Finance, you don't have time to think about anything else, because there are many fronts of work simultaneously; as many as five problems a day reach your desk.",6192.42,6213.68,{"idx":5957,"utterance_id":5958,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":5959,"start_s":5960,"end_s":5961,"word_count":252,"indexable":13},939,"83660","One day it's a bill about to be approved by Congress that will open a hole of I don't know how much, another day it's a ruling in the STJ, in the STF; it's really a different job, let's call it that.",6214.36,6226.86,{"idx":5963,"utterance_id":5964,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":5965,"start_s":5966,"end_s":5967,"word_count":222,"topic_slug":4672,"topic_label":4673,"target_id":5968,"target_proposition":5969,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":5970,"indexable":13},940,"83661","So, I sat with President Lula for several weeks to know what we were going to do in 2026, what he expected of me, what I expected from the process",6227.68,6241.68,"b382c8c3-6c8c-4ff5-bf4d-e44bb9e85577","participate in the political process and discuss a proposal for 2026 (run or join a ticket)","reports having spoken with the president about what they would do in 2026 and about coming here.",{"idx":5972,"utterance_id":5973,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":5974,"start_s":5975,"end_s":5976,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},941,"83662","the political process of this very important year.",6242.78,6244.92,{"idx":5978,"utterance_id":5979,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":5980,"start_s":5981,"end_s":5982,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},942,"83663","And then we came to the conclusion that it was appropriate for me to come here.",6245.48,6249.88,{"idx":5984,"utterance_id":5985,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":5986,"start_s":5987,"end_s":5988,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},943,"83664","I did not expect to find what I found in the State of São Paulo.",6251.8,6256.14,{"idx":5990,"utterance_id":5991,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":5992,"start_s":5993,"end_s":5994,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":5995,"topic_label":5996,"target_id":5997,"target_proposition":5998,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":606,"rationale":5999,"indexable":191},944,"83665","I'm speaking frankly, that since the press does not cover what is happening in public schools, in public hospitals, in procurements, in finances, when it does not cover it, it was an unpleasant surprise for me.",6256.18,6271.9,"gestao-publica-e-administracao-estadual","Public Management","9e75eaed-d468-4780-a2cd-3f1da6c5c10c","reformulate state public policies to restore essential public services","says they encountered a bad situation in the state government and advocates change.",{"idx":6001,"utterance_id":6002,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6003,"start_s":6004,"end_s":6005,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},945,"83666","to be confronted with what is happening in this government.",6272.88,6275.54,{"idx":6007,"utterance_id":6008,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6009,"start_s":6010,"end_s":6011,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},946,"83667","I did not expect to find the situation that we found.",6276.28,6280.7,{"idx":6013,"utterance_id":6014,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6015,"start_s":6016,"end_s":6017,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},947,"83668","And when I hear these testimonies, I see that the situation is even worse.",6281.64,6286.16,{"idx":6019,"utterance_id":6020,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6021,"start_s":6022,"end_s":6023,"word_count":286,"indexable":13},948,"83669","Because, obviously, I have been studying these issues for 90 days, with Marina, with Simone, Márcio was governor and is also following the situation; we are very concerned about what is happening in the State of São Paulo.",6287.28,6302.24,{"idx":6025,"utterance_id":6026,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6027,"start_s":6028,"end_s":6029,"word_count":54,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":6030,"target_proposition":6031,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":6032,"rationale":6033,"indexable":13},949,"83670","Education is not being discussed as much as it should be.",6303.2,6306.98,"d964955b-da69-4a12-9f9a-1a524e952933","prioritize essential public services (health, education, and public security)",0.73,"says education is not discussed as much as it should be.",{"idx":6035,"utterance_id":6036,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6037,"start_s":6038,"end_s":6039,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},950,"83671","A lot is being said, and with reason, because the situation is very worrying regarding public security.",6307.54,6312.68,{"idx":6041,"utterance_id":6042,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6043,"start_s":6044,"end_s":6045,"word_count":67,"topic_slug":4927,"topic_label":4928,"target_id":6046,"target_proposition":6047,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":840,"rationale":6048,"indexable":191},951,"83672","We have to hold a hearing on this about public security.",6313.8,6316.78,"41d20916-b3b8-46bc-af0b-ba7fc8e9c9b4","hold public hearings on public security","explicitly states: 'Nós temos que fazer uma oitiva dessa sobre segurança 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plan.",{"idx":6062,"utterance_id":6063,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6064,"start_s":6065,"end_s":6066,"word_count":97,"topic_slug":4927,"topic_label":4928,"target_id":6067,"target_proposition":6068,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":6069,"indexable":191},953,"83674","We have to make public security a theme of progressivism, of the progressive forces.",6331.8,6337.34,"aff42817-2d41-4517-a630-97e3ee91b9c7","incorporate public security into the agenda of progressive forces","says public security must be a topic of progressivism.",{"idx":6071,"utterance_id":6072,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6073,"start_s":6074,"end_s":6075,"word_count":20,"topic_slug":4927,"topic_label":4928,"target_id":6067,"target_proposition":6068,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":202,"rationale":6076,"indexable":191},954,"83675","We cannot let this discourse be left in the hands of the far right, because it's destructive.",6337.38,6343.12,"warns against leaving the discourse to the far right and defends progressive action.",{"idx":6078,"utterance_id":6079,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6080,"start_s":6081,"end_s":6082,"word_count":85,"indexable":13},955,"83676","We won't put anything good in its place if we go into that confrontational environment our colleagues just reported.",6343.82,6352.28,{"idx":6084,"utterance_id":6085,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6086,"start_s":6087,"end_s":6088,"word_count":34,"topic_slug":4927,"topic_label":4928,"target_id":6089,"target_proposition":6090,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":840,"rationale":6091,"indexable":191},956,"83677","Public security will be a priority; it will have a very prominent place in the government plan.",6352.86,6357.66,"84ab78cb-ed8c-4c30-bb16-21ce6841158c","prioritize public security in the government plan","announces that public security will be a priority in the government 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technologies, new tools; no one will be against a computer, no one will be against the internet.",6367.02,6376.14,"says no one can be against computers and the internet in schools.",{"idx":6114,"utterance_id":6115,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6116,"start_s":6117,"end_s":6118,"word_count":171,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":6119,"target_proposition":6120,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":6121,"indexable":191},960,"83681","There must be internet at school, not the kind that's there now, where a teacher... She is obliged by georeferencing to fill in at the school and the school doesn't provide internet.",6376.7,6387.84,"ed2c34b3-1ed3-4b97-9fd5-f2730a411af2","ensure quality internet in schools","declares 'Tem que ter internet na escola' and denounces the lack of infrastructure.",{"idx":6123,"utterance_id":6124,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6125,"start_s":6126,"end_s":6127,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":396,"target_proposition":397,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":840,"rationale":6128,"indexable":191},961,"83682","And then the student doesn't have internet either and you tell him to do his homework on the internet; he doesn't have it at home, he doesn't have it at school—where is he supposed to?",6387.96,6398.92,"criticizes spending billions on technology while schools lack basic 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will replace the library, the teacher, the interaction, or the pedagogical teaching–learning process.",6412.42,6425.02,"4388a9f0-f158-498f-870f-3daf096a56f5","value teaching activity and avoid its mechanization","says technology does not replace libraries, teachers, or the pedagogical process.",{"idx":6157,"utterance_id":6158,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6159,"start_s":6160,"end_s":6161,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},966,"83687","There's no way to do that.",6425.18,6426.58,{"idx":6163,"utterance_id":6164,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6165,"start_s":6166,"end_s":6167,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},967,"83688","You can't instrumentalize education as if it were an assembly line.",6427.52,6433.86,{"idx":6169,"utterance_id":6170,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6171,"start_s":6172,"end_s":6173,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},968,"83689","That won't 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line and who is producing... keyboard, screen, computer, and say, look, now we transfer that assembly-line view to the Secretary of Education,",6480.4,6501.12,"politica-de-educacao","Education policy","e6031ff3-f1f3-42da-a557-769035fbea33","avoid transferring a corporate mindset to public education management","criticizes an assembly-line mentality and the presence of businesspeople in education management.",{"idx":6216,"utterance_id":6217,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6218,"start_s":6219,"end_s":6220,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":6221,"topic_label":6222,"target_id":6223,"target_proposition":6224,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":6225,"indexable":191},975,"83696","So the error is in how the team is selected.",6502.04,6506.52,"nomeacoes-e-indicacoes","Appointments and nominations","592e7e5a-1a4a-47b8-ac82-0f5d62be0f78","avoid appointing businesspeople without educational experience to education and security positions","says the mistake is in the team's selection and cites business owners as wrong choices.",{"idx":6227,"utterance_id":6228,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6229,"start_s":6230,"end_s":6231,"word_count":173,"indexable":13},976,"83697","When you appoint the owner of Multilaser, Derrit, from Rota, to take care of security and education, the product is what you get—you are hiring that product.",6508.42,6520.28,{"idx":6233,"utterance_id":6234,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6235,"start_s":6236,"end_s":6237,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},977,"83698","So the problem is at the origin: you're hiring wrong, you're selecting wrong.",6521.76,6526.34,{"idx":6239,"utterance_id":6240,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6241,"start_s":6242,"end_s":6243,"word_count":246,"indexable":13},978,"83699","Cortella was mentioned, Leandro Karnal was mentioned, Paulo Freire was mentioned—André, congratulations for having cited our dear Paulo Freire; people need to understand what a pedagogical process is.",6527.38,6540.46,{"idx":6245,"utterance_id":6246,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6247,"start_s":6248,"end_s":6249,"word_count":85,"indexable":13},979,"83700","And those people who are not familiar with the school, with the classroom, are not in a position to understand that process.",6541.16,6548.36,{"idx":6251,"utterance_id":6252,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6253,"start_s":6254,"end_s":6255,"word_count":150,"indexable":13},980,"83701","There are people with 10, 20, 30 years of teaching who are still learning to deal with the contemporary challenges of public school.",6548.84,6557.62,{"idx":6257,"utterance_id":6258,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6259,"start_s":6260,"end_s":6261,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},981,"83702","How are you going to import from a completely different environment a mass-production methodology into the school? It won't work.",6557.7,6570.22,{"idx":6263,"utterance_id":6264,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6265,"start_s":6266,"end_s":6267,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},982,"83703","It won't happen.",6570.88,6571.76,{"idx":6269,"utterance_id":6270,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6271,"start_s":6272,"end_s":6273,"word_count":133,"topic_slug":6274,"topic_label":6275,"target_id":6276,"target_proposition":6277,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":6059,"rationale":6278,"indexable":191},983,"83704","This issue of people with disabilities in public school... It's a fight I took on at the beginning of the century.",6573.76,6580.6,"inclusao-escolar-educacao-inclusiva","Inclusive education","ce86333e-2250-43dc-a9f5-f5bc22933467","include autistic students in regular classrooms","Declares having taken up the fight for inclusion of people with disabilities in public schools.",{"idx":6280,"utterance_id":6281,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6282,"start_s":6283,"end_s":6284,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},984,"83705","You know there was a huge fight to keep these children segregated.",6581.8,6586.58,{"idx":6286,"utterance_id":6287,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6288,"start_s":6289,"end_s":6290,"word_count":179,"indexable":13},985,"83706","We did, Marina—I think I've already told you this story—we did a survey of every child who received the BPC and did not attend 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abandonment with PEDMEC and presents it as a successful policy.",{"idx":6352,"utterance_id":6353,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6354,"start_s":6355,"end_s":6356,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},995,"83716","This is how public policy is done.",6643.32,6644.92,{"idx":6358,"utterance_id":6359,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6360,"start_s":6361,"end_s":6362,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},996,"83717","Measuring, quantifying, supporting, understanding the reality of each person.",6645.32,6651.06,{"idx":6364,"utterance_id":6365,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6366,"start_s":6367,"end_s":6368,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},997,"83718","What did we discover 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calmer, your heart a little at ease, when you return to the right road to reach your destination.",6783.82,6791.48,{"idx":6559,"utterance_id":6560,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6561,"start_s":6562,"end_s":6563,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},1028,"83749","We took the wrong route here in São Paulo.",6791.84,6794.54,{"idx":6565,"utterance_id":6566,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6567,"start_s":6568,"end_s":6569,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":6570,"target_proposition":6571,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":840,"rationale":6572,"indexable":191},1029,"83750","This way of doing things, this so-called platform—there's no right way to 'platformize' because the name itself is already bad.",6795.18,6802.96,"04a9ff18-bb84-4e35-8045-41bd550c5298","incorporate technology into the educational process appropriately","Says that 'se você quer incorporar a tecnologia... tem o jeito certo de fazer'.",{"idx":6574,"utterance_id":6575,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6576,"start_s":6577,"end_s":6578,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},1030,"83751","But I say: if you want to incorporate technology into the educational process, there is a right way to do it.",6803.58,6808.7,{"idx":6580,"utterance_id":6581,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6582,"start_s":6583,"end_s":6584,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1031,"83752","There is a right way to do it.",6809.96,6811.08,{"idx":6586,"utterance_id":6587,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6588,"start_s":6589,"end_s":6590,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},1032,"83753","But it's not this.",6811.54,6812.24,{"idx":6592,"utterance_id":6593,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6594,"start_s":6595,"end_s":6596,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1033,"83754","Because the premise of this is wrong.",6813.14,6815.38,{"idx":6598,"utterance_id":6599,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6600,"start_s":6601,"end_s":6602,"word_count":67,"topic_slug":6603,"topic_label":6604,"target_id":6605,"target_proposition":6606,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":6607,"indexable":191},1034,"83755","The premise of this is that the teacher is a problem.",6815.86,6818.82,"valorizacao-dos-profissionais-da-educacao","Valuing Education Professionals","4b213ba2-d921-4cb9-af7f-e969f42f5023","value the public teaching profession","Criticizes the assumption that teachers are the problem, implying a defense of teachers.",{"idx":6609,"utterance_id":6610,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6611,"start_s":6612,"end_s":6613,"word_count":61,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":6153,"target_proposition":6154,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":1188,"rationale":6614,"indexable":191},1035,"83756","And if you start from that premise, you will end up destroying education.",6820.04,6824.3,"Warns that blaming teachers 'vai acabar com a educação' — advocates a different stance.",{"idx":6616,"utterance_id":6617,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6618,"start_s":6619,"end_s":6620,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":6603,"topic_label":6604,"target_id":6605,"target_proposition":6606,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":202,"rationale":6621,"indexable":191},1036,"83757","Because if you consider the agent of transformation to be the problem, it's like a general considering his soldiers to be the problem of the army.",6825.02,6838.8,"Compares a manager who blames teachers to a general who blames soldiers — defends valuing teachers.",{"idx":6623,"utterance_id":6624,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6625,"start_s":6626,"end_s":6627,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},1037,"83758","I mean, the person is crazy, completely out of their mind; they're saying everything wrong.",6838.88,6846.28,{"idx":6629,"utterance_id":6630,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6631,"start_s":6632,"end_s":6633,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},1038,"83759","Everything wrong.",6846.32,6846.94,{"idx":6635,"utterance_id":6636,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6637,"start_s":6638,"end_s":6639,"word_count":222,"topic_slug":6640,"topic_label":6641,"target_id":6642,"target_proposition":6643,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":283,"rationale":6644,"indexable":191},1039,"83760","It's not that I didn't have these issues both as mayor and as minister... Sometimes, when we sat with the unions to discuss career issues, there were a thousand matters to resolve.",6848.04,6862.36,"direitos-trabalhistas","Labor Rights","af663cfb-3f94-48aa-8fce-edef92d08737","dialogue and negotiate with teachers' unions","Reports that, as mayor\u002Fminister, he would sit with unions to discuss career matters.",{"idx":6646,"utterance_id":6647,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6648,"start_s":6649,"end_s":6650,"word_count":120,"topic_slug":6640,"topic_label":6641,"target_id":6642,"target_proposition":6643,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":6032,"rationale":6651,"indexable":13},1040,"83761","When you're a manager, you have a limited budget, you have to... But every time it ended in agreement.",6863.4,6868.98,"Says that despite a limited budget, negotiations ended in agreement.",{"idx":6653,"utterance_id":6654,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6655,"start_s":6656,"end_s":6657,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},1041,"83762","It always ended in agreement.",6869.84,6870.9,{"idx":6659,"utterance_id":6660,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6661,"start_s":6662,"end_s":6663,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},1042,"83763","Oh, we fought, there were strikes, sometimes not; sometimes there was dialogue, sometimes not.",6870.94,6873.94,{"idx":6665,"utterance_id":6666,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6667,"start_s":6668,"end_s":6669,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},1043,"83764","But it ended in an agreement.",6874.38,6875.64,{"idx":6671,"utterance_id":6672,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6673,"start_s":6674,"end_s":6675,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},1044,"83765","It ended in an agreement.",6876.74,6877.62,{"idx":6677,"utterance_id":6678,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6679,"start_s":6680,"end_s":6681,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},1045,"83766","Imagine at MEC: the groups, Andes, Senazé—it was... it was a problem.",6877.86,6886.04,{"idx":6683,"utterance_id":6684,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6685,"start_s":6686,"end_s":6687,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},1046,"83767","And we used to say, no, we will exhaust all possibilities for holding classes.",6886.36,6890.3,{"idx":6689,"utterance_id":6690,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":1139,"start_s":6691,"end_s":6692,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},1047,"83768",6890.38,6890.68,{"idx":6694,"utterance_id":6695,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6696,"start_s":6697,"end_s":6698,"word_count":133,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":6642,"target_proposition":6643,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":606,"rationale":6699,"indexable":191},1048,"83769","Because we knew that if we didn't reach an understanding with the category, the student would be harmed.",6891.28,6897.6,"Says an understanding with the teachers was necessary to avoid harming students.",{"idx":6701,"utterance_id":6702,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6703,"start_s":6704,"end_s":6705,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":6603,"topic_label":6604,"target_id":6605,"target_proposition":6606,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":6706,"indexable":191},1049,"83770","And the category had every reason to complain, because, obviously, we needed to... We began a process to value the teaching profession in Brazil only a short time ago.",6898.14,6908.52,"Explicitly states they began a process to value the teaching profession.",{"idx":6708,"utterance_id":6709,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6710,"start_s":6711,"end_s":6712,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},1050,"83771","The teachers' salary floor was created back then.",6910,6912.36,{"idx":6714,"utterance_id":6715,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6716,"start_s":6717,"end_s":6718,"word_count":120,"topic_slug":6603,"topic_label":6604,"target_id":6605,"target_proposition":6606,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":606,"rationale":6719,"indexable":191},1051,"83772","We created an indexer for the teachers' salary floor that allowed it to reach, today, a proportion of the minimum wage.",6913.04,6922.24,"Claims having created an indexer for the teachers' minimum salary as an accomplished measure.",{"idx":6721,"utterance_id":6722,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6723,"start_s":6724,"end_s":6725,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},1052,"83773","At one point, teachers in Brazil were being paid as little as half the minimum wage.",6922.7,6926.02,{"idx":6727,"utterance_id":6728,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6729,"start_s":6730,"end_s":6731,"word_count":133,"indexable":13},1053,"83774","In the interior of Maranhão, in the interior of Piauí, teachers were paid half the minimum wage because they worked half-time.",6926.76,6933.98,{"idx":6733,"utterance_id":6734,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6735,"start_s":6736,"end_s":6737,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},1054,"83775","It was a disgrace.",6934.74,6935.52,{"idx":6739,"utterance_id":6740,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6741,"start_s":6742,"end_s":6743,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},1055,"83776","Today you made progress.",6935.78,6936.96,{"idx":6745,"utterance_id":6746,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6747,"start_s":6748,"end_s":6749,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1056,"83777","Ah, but you could have moved faster.",6937.78,6938.88,{"idx":6751,"utterance_id":6752,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6753,"start_s":6754,"end_s":6755,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},1057,"83778","Could? 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We made an enormous effort to expand university places, both through ProUni and through the expansion of federal universities and federal institutes.",6967.7,6978.88,"politica-de-ensino-superior","Higher education policy","ee3f4685-84dc-497b-8fe4-cd940c238fbd","expand access to public higher education","Calls for efforts to increase vacancies via ProUni and the expansion of federal universities and IFs.",{"idx":1044,"utterance_id":6815,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6816,"start_s":6817,"end_s":6818,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},"83787","A more modest effort was made here in São Paulo, but it happened as well.",6979.42,6983.52,{"idx":6820,"utterance_id":6821,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6822,"start_s":6823,"end_s":6824,"word_count":246,"topic_slug":6809,"topic_label":6810,"target_id":6825,"target_proposition":6826,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":840,"rationale":6827,"indexable":191},1067,"83788","And then a huge fight to create Sisu, to create reserved 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1,000?",7008.84,7018.26,"48ba136b-cb91-44df-a37c-fbfe400491a5","increase the value of Bolsa Permanência for university students","Asks whether it's worth paying an extra R$100 to keep a student in university, supporting the idea.",{"idx":6874,"utterance_id":6875,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6876,"start_s":6877,"end_s":6878,"word_count":133,"indexable":13},1075,"83796","Do we have an extra R$100 to pay so the student can stay at university until they finish their course?",7019.9,7025.38,{"idx":6880,"utterance_id":6881,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6882,"start_s":6883,"end_s":6884,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1076,"83797","Then the question I ask.",7025.98,7027.82,{"idx":6886,"utterance_id":6887,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6888,"start_s":6889,"end_s":6890,"word_count":246,"indexable":13},1077,"83798","When I meet with rectors and so on, the question I ask them is the following: okay, it costs an extra 100 reais per month to keep that student in school, and we are doing the math.",7027.9,7039.02,{"idx":6892,"utterance_id":6893,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6894,"start_s":6895,"end_s":6896,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},1078,"83799","The question is: how much will it cost if he leaves without graduating?",7039.48,7042.22,{"idx":6898,"utterance_id":6899,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6900,"start_s":6901,"end_s":6902,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},1079,"83800","What is the cost?",7044.44,7045.26,{"idx":6904,"utterance_id":6905,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6906,"start_s":6907,"end_s":6908,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},1080,"83801","This young person is in the second year of his degree, the third year of his degree.",7047.22,7051.5,{"idx":6910,"utterance_id":6911,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6912,"start_s":6913,"end_s":6914,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},1081,"83802","We'll lose him.",7052.14,7053.02,{"idx":6916,"utterance_id":6917,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6918,"start_s":6919,"end_s":6920,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":6809,"topic_label":6810,"target_id":6870,"target_proposition":6871,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":6059,"rationale":6921,"indexable":191},1082,"83803","This young person, for 100 reais per month, how much did it cost society to get him to the second year, to the third year, only to lose him with two years left to graduate?",7054.84,7065.5,"Argues that losing a student over R$100 is costlier for society — advocates increasing support.",{"idx":6923,"utterance_id":6924,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6925,"start_s":6926,"end_s":6927,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},1083,"83804","We start to reason in a way that does not match the effort society made.",7066.4,7073.64,{"idx":6929,"utterance_id":6930,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6931,"start_s":6932,"end_s":6933,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},1084,"83805","And how many people took to the streets — movement without university, student movement, black movement, how many social movements... took to the streets to demand higher education in Brazil, which was exclusive to the elite.",7074.26,7087.42,{"idx":6935,"utterance_id":6936,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6937,"start_s":6938,"end_s":6939,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1085,"83806","No one used to get into university in Brazil.",7089.52,7091.64,{"idx":6941,"utterance_id":6942,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6943,"start_s":6944,"end_s":6945,"word_count":373,"indexable":13},1086,"83807","And then, because of R$100, you lose a young person who got a good Enem score, who only got into Sisu because of that score, and suddenly, in the second year, he has to work because he can't afford transportation, can't afford food, has no housing, has nothing.",7092.74,7112.26,{"idx":6947,"utterance_id":6948,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6949,"start_s":6950,"end_s":6951,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},1087,"83808","What do you do?",7112.64,7113.28,{"idx":6953,"utterance_id":6954,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6955,"start_s":6956,"end_s":6957,"word_count":85,"topic_slug":6210,"topic_label":6211,"target_id":6958,"target_proposition":6959,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":840,"rationale":6960,"indexable":191},1088,"83809","So, I think we need to return to talking about education as we once did.",7114.08,7119.6,"2da44b99-81c3-4f24-b8ae-840d5ce92fc7","make education a priority in public policies","Says we need to return to talking about education as a national priority.",{"idx":6962,"utterance_id":6963,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6964,"start_s":6965,"end_s":6966,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},1089,"83810","You know, education began to enter the country's agenda; in the past 20 years it started to be on the agenda.",7120.72,7129.5,{"idx":6968,"utterance_id":6969,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6970,"start_s":6971,"end_s":6972,"word_count":108,"indexable":13},1090,"83811","It's Fundeb, it's the National Teacher Salary Floor, it's Univesp, it's the Open University of Brazil, it's the Federal Institute.",7129.92,7137.18,{"idx":6974,"utterance_id":6975,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6976,"start_s":6977,"end_s":6978,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},1091,"83812","And we are going to, we want to, Cida, Cláudio... Fonseca, who is here as well.",7137.88,7143.4,{"idx":6980,"utterance_id":6981,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6982,"start_s":6983,"end_s":6984,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},1092,"83813","We want to build on the good things we've done.",7144.06,7146.84,{"idx":6986,"utterance_id":6987,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6988,"start_s":6989,"end_s":6990,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},1093,"83814","For example, the CELs.",7147.18,7148.66,{"idx":6992,"utterance_id":6993,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":6994,"start_s":6995,"end_s":6996,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},1094,"83815","I was part of SIDA's team when the CELs were conceived.",7149.28,7152.62,{"idx":6998,"utterance_id":6999,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7000,"start_s":7001,"end_s":7002,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},1095,"83816","SIDA was our leader there, and we all helped to get the CEL off the ground.",7154.06,7158.9,{"idx":7004,"utterance_id":7005,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7006,"start_s":7007,"end_s":7008,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},1096,"83817","I was in the Finance Secretariat at the time.",7159.74,7161.6,{"idx":7010,"utterance_id":7011,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7012,"start_s":7013,"end_s":7014,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},1097,"83818","The CEL has to be... The Federal Institute, few people know, but the Federal Institute, from an infrastructure point of view, was very inspired by the CEL.",7162.46,7173.58,{"idx":7016,"utterance_id":7017,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7018,"start_s":7019,"end_s":7020,"word_count":179,"indexable":13},1098,"83819","We say, if the CEL changes the face of a neighborhood, why don't we build a Federal Institute that changes the face of a city?",7174.6,7181.92,{"idx":7022,"utterance_id":7023,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7024,"start_s":7025,"end_s":7026,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},1099,"83820","Because that's what we're talking about.",7183.4,7184.84,{"idx":7028,"utterance_id":7029,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7030,"start_s":7031,"end_s":7032,"word_count":179,"indexable":13},1100,"83821","When you take a university campus to a city, when you take a Federal Institute campus to a city, you change that city's life forever.",7184.88,7194.32,{"idx":7034,"utterance_id":7035,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7036,"start_s":7037,"end_s":7038,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1101,"83822","It will never be the same again.",7194.72,7195.98,{"idx":7040,"utterance_id":7041,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7042,"start_s":7043,"end_s":7044,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},1102,"83823","You alter the urban landscape.",7196.02,7198.78,{"idx":7046,"utterance_id":7047,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7048,"start_s":7049,"end_s":7050,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},1103,"83824","And you light the little bulb of hope in every young person's mind.",7199.9,7203.44,{"idx":7052,"utterance_id":7053,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7054,"start_s":7055,"end_s":7056,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},1104,"83825","He says, 'Man, I want to study at that good school there.'",7204.06,7206.2,{"idx":7058,"utterance_id":7059,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7060,"start_s":7061,"end_s":7062,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1105,"83826","And it becomes a reference in the region.",7207.3,7209.14,{"idx":7064,"utterance_id":7065,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7066,"start_s":7067,"end_s":7068,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},1106,"83827","And then families and young people start to compare.",7209.8,7213.06,{"idx":7070,"utterance_id":7071,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7072,"start_s":7073,"end_s":7074,"word_count":85,"indexable":13},1107,"83828","Man, I want a respected teacher, who knows things, who can teach math, physics and chemistry, which I don't have at my school.",7213.16,7220.1,{"idx":7076,"utterance_id":7077,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7078,"start_s":7079,"end_s":7080,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1108,"83829","It raises the bar.",7220.62,7223.06,{"idx":7082,"utterance_id":7083,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7084,"start_s":7085,"end_s":7086,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1109,"83830","And then things start to improve.",7223.52,7224.84,{"idx":7088,"utterance_id":7089,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7090,"start_s":7091,"end_s":7092,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},1110,"83831","And when you educate a generation, you've educated the nation.",7226.02,7229.78,{"idx":7094,"utterance_id":7095,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7096,"start_s":7097,"end_s":7098,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},1111,"83832","Because educated parents will ensure that their children go beyond themselves and so on.",7230.56,7235.12,{"idx":7100,"utterance_id":7101,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7102,"start_s":7103,"end_s":7104,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":6210,"topic_label":6211,"target_id":7105,"target_proposition":7106,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":6059,"rationale":7107,"indexable":191},1112,"83833","So, the educational effort: the country must make the decision to educate a generation.",7235.7,7245.24,"36046b55-19b8-4557-b5d4-020a7f45c887","prioritize and invest in public education to train a generation","Says the country must decide to educate a generation — an explicit proposal of priority.",{"idx":7109,"utterance_id":7110,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7111,"start_s":7112,"end_s":7113,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},1113,"83834","Because then there is inertia, because the family will not leave anyone behind and will force, in a virtuous combination of family and the State, things to become dynamic.",7245.94,7259.24,{"idx":7115,"utterance_id":7116,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7117,"start_s":7118,"end_s":7119,"word_count":264,"indexable":13},1114,"83835","So, I think the Federal Institute, CELs, the career paths we built together on various occasions here in the city of São Paulo, at the federal level, we have edifying examples of things that can be done and innovated.",7259.9,7279.38,{"idx":7121,"utterance_id":7122,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7123,"start_s":7124,"end_s":7125,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},1115,"83836","We can improve on what we've already done, we don't need to do the same thing.",7280.08,7282.98,{"idx":7127,"utterance_id":7128,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7129,"start_s":7130,"end_s":7131,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},1116,"83837","But having as a reference what we did well is a floor; you say, 'from here I can think of other things that can develop.'",7283.64,7294.32,{"idx":7133,"utterance_id":7134,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7135,"start_s":7136,"end_s":7137,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},1117,"83838","Fundação Paula Souza today, for example, is also experiencing problems.",7295.88,7299.78,{"idx":7139,"utterance_id":7140,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7141,"start_s":7142,"end_s":7143,"word_count":120,"topic_slug":184,"topic_label":185,"target_id":5857,"target_proposition":5858,"stance":201,"stance_confidence":925,"rationale":7144,"indexable":13},1118,"83839","Public schools are having problems, Fundação Paula Souza is having problems, universities are having problems.",7300.22,7307.18,"States that public schools, Fundação Paula Souza and universities are facing problems.",{"idx":7146,"utterance_id":7147,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7148,"start_s":7149,"end_s":7150,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},1119,"83840","I will re-include a 2022 promise to take FAPESP as an example.",7307.86,7316.5,{"idx":7152,"utterance_id":7153,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7154,"start_s":7155,"end_s":7156,"word_count":150,"indexable":13},1120,"83841","for the financing of state universities, which is the best example I have: you link the revenue, not a tax.",7317.54,7326.1,{"idx":7158,"utterance_id":7159,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7160,"start_s":7161,"end_s":7162,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},1121,"83842","A tax sometimes falls, sometimes rises, sometimes changes.",7326.52,7330.46,{"idx":7164,"utterance_id":7165,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7166,"start_s":7167,"end_s":7168,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},1122,"83843","You won't refrain from doing tax reform because of that.",7330.5,7333.6,{"idx":7170,"utterance_id":7171,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7172,"start_s":7173,"end_s":7174,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},1123,"83844","So, what do you have to do?",7333.64,7334.68,{"idx":7176,"utterance_id":7177,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7178,"start_s":7179,"end_s":7180,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},1124,"83845","Create a smarter rule.",7335.28,7337.2,{"idx":7182,"utterance_id":7183,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7184,"start_s":7185,"end_s":7186,"word_count":133,"topic_slug":4342,"topic_label":4343,"target_id":7187,"target_proposition":7188,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":1997,"rationale":7189,"indexable":191},1125,"83846","And I promised that we will put in the State Constitution a financing rule of the FAPESP type.",7338.02,7345.8,"d010205c-86a4-4310-be63-3bf62f84da6b","establish a constitutional funding rule for state universities based on the FAPESP model","Promises to include in the state constitution a funding rule modeled after FAPESP.",{"idx":7191,"utterance_id":7192,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7193,"start_s":7194,"end_s":7195,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1126,"83847","for the three public universities of São Paulo.",7346.28,7348.3,{"idx":7197,"utterance_id":7198,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7199,"start_s":7200,"end_s":7201,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},1127,"83848","It's the way out.",7348.78,7349.44,{"idx":7203,"utterance_id":7204,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7205,"start_s":7206,"end_s":7207,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},1128,"83849","So there is no shortage of good ideas; what is lacking is vision, educational vision, vision for the future.",7351.94,7360.56,{"idx":7209,"utterance_id":7210,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7211,"start_s":7212,"end_s":7213,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":7214,"topic_label":7215,"target_id":7216,"target_proposition":7217,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":1188,"rationale":7218,"indexable":191},1129,"83850","We have a government that, both in public security, in education, and in privatizations, is putting us in reverse; we are going backwards.",7361.3,7371.62,"venda-de-patrimonio-publico","Sale of Public Assets","53834c29-c9a5-4e24-868a-fefe6001f3db","preserve public state-owned enterprises","Points to a rollback in privatizations — criticizes and indicates opposition to the current process.",{"idx":7220,"utterance_id":7221,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7222,"start_s":7223,"end_s":7224,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},1130,"83851","It's very distressing to see.",7372.86,7374.1,{"idx":7226,"utterance_id":7227,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7228,"start_s":7229,"end_s":7230,"word_count":179,"indexable":13},1131,"83852","And it's more distressing to see that people are only becoming aware of this now, with the pre-campaign we are doing, because the press is not doing this.",7374.7,7383.7,{"idx":7232,"utterance_id":7233,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7234,"start_s":7235,"end_s":7236,"word_count":179,"indexable":13},1132,"83853","So we have to, in a way, take on the role of publicizing what is happening and let people make their decision on election day.",7384.22,7393.74,{"idx":7238,"utterance_id":7239,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7240,"start_s":7241,"end_s":7242,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},1133,"83854","They will know if that's good, but people need to know what's going on.",7394.58,7399.04,{"idx":7244,"utterance_id":7245,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7246,"start_s":7247,"end_s":7248,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":6274,"topic_label":6275,"target_id":7249,"target_proposition":7250,"stance":343,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":7251,"indexable":191},1134,"83855","Are you going to replace a specialized professional with an assistant, a helper, to handle such a sensitive issue as inclusion?",7400.64,7409.5,"7156a2db-29e7-4358-985f-72a54b3e5a76","replace specialized professionals with assistants for school inclusion","Rhetorically asks whether specialized professionals should be replaced by assistants — criticizes the proposal.",{"idx":7253,"utterance_id":7254,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7255,"start_s":7256,"end_s":7257,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},1135,"83856","These are dreadful things that we shouldn't even hear about.",7409.94,7412.88,{"idx":7259,"utterance_id":7260,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7261,"start_s":7262,"end_s":7263,"word_count":56,"topic_slug":6274,"topic_label":6275,"target_id":6276,"target_proposition":6277,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":7264,"indexable":13},1136,"83857","Because do you know what will happen?",7413.42,7414.88,"Argues that the rollback will lead to segregation and mistreatment of people with disabilities.",{"idx":7266,"utterance_id":7267,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7268,"start_s":7269,"end_s":7270,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},1137,"83858","What will happen is that it will regress to non-inclusion.",7415.78,7418.86,{"idx":7272,"utterance_id":7273,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7274,"start_s":7275,"end_s":7276,"word_count":120,"indexable":13},1138,"83859","That is the first step toward segregation; it will be treating a person with a disability in the wrong way.",7419.5,7427.04,{"idx":7278,"utterance_id":7279,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7280,"start_s":7281,"end_s":7282,"word_count":215,"indexable":13},1139,"83860","Then parents... for not having had the experience of having their children fully included, will begin to ask for the opposite of inclusion so that their children are well treated.",7427.5,7440.22,{"idx":7284,"utterance_id":7285,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7286,"start_s":7287,"end_s":7288,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},1140,"83861","And the blame will be ours for not explaining and for not carrying out inclusion well.",7441.16,7446.62,{"idx":7290,"utterance_id":7291,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7292,"start_s":7293,"end_s":7294,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":6274,"topic_label":6275,"target_id":6276,"target_proposition":6277,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":840,"rationale":7295,"indexable":191},1141,"83862","Because inclusion not only educates the person with a disability, it educates those without disabilities, it educates people about diversity, to respect others, to understand what difference is.",7447.24,7458.46,"States that inclusion educates both people with disabilities and those without disabilities.",{"idx":7297,"utterance_id":7298,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7299,"start_s":7300,"end_s":7301,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},1142,"83863","to live in society with dignity.",7459.04,7462.26,{"idx":7303,"utterance_id":7304,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7305,"start_s":7306,"end_s":7307,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},1143,"83864","So, one day I was with a guy from APAI, he was a famous federal deputy from Minas Gerais, Eduardo something, he was very famous, Barbosa, Eduardo Barbosa.",7462.66,7474.16,{"idx":7309,"utterance_id":7310,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7311,"start_s":7312,"end_s":7313,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},1144,"83865","And he would say, 'No, because my son has the right to have a specialized school.'",7474.22,7480.64,{"idx":7315,"utterance_id":7316,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7317,"start_s":7318,"end_s":7319,"word_count":171,"topic_slug":4342,"topic_label":4343,"target_id":7320,"target_proposition":7321,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":1188,"rationale":7322,"indexable":191},1145,"83866","I said, 'Eduardo, I think your son has the right to have a specialized school, and I am offering here a Fundeb that considers enrollment at APAI,'",7481.18,7488.54,"f4303902-11ad-44fe-adf5-f378023f3a2a","fund enrollments in specialized schools via Fundeb","Says that Fundeb counts enrollment in APAI for funding — policy offer.",{"idx":7324,"utterance_id":7325,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7326,"start_s":7327,"end_s":7328,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},1146,"83867","an enrollment to be financed by the fund.",7489.12,7491.22,{"idx":7330,"utterance_id":7331,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7332,"start_s":7333,"end_s":7334,"word_count":97,"topic_slug":6274,"topic_label":6275,"target_id":6276,"target_proposition":6277,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":6059,"rationale":7335,"indexable":191},1147,"83868","But you cannot take away my son's right to be together with yours.",7491.76,7494.92,"Rejects removing the right to be with non-disabled students — defends joint inclusion.",{"idx":7337,"utterance_id":7338,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7339,"start_s":7340,"end_s":7341,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},1148,"83869","Because I want my son to be educated with society as it is. And not in a bubble, a fantasy.",7496.06,7503.26,{"idx":7343,"utterance_id":7344,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7345,"start_s":7346,"end_s":7347,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},1149,"83870","Brazil is Brazil; it has to be in the school, in its entirety.",7504.46,7507.98,{"idx":7349,"utterance_id":7350,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7351,"start_s":7352,"end_s":7353,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},1150,"83871","And then my son will know what Brazil is.",7508.32,7510.12,{"idx":7355,"utterance_id":7356,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7357,"start_s":7358,"end_s":7359,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1151,"83872","Because I want that for him.",7510.72,7512.32,{"idx":7361,"utterance_id":7362,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7363,"start_s":7364,"end_s":7365,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},1152,"83873","It doesn't help, because the dream of the wealthy in this country is to put...",7512.48,7517.12,{"idx":7367,"utterance_id":7368,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7369,"start_s":7370,"end_s":7371,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},1153,"83874","their child in something that only has everyone.",7517.78,7519.72,{"idx":7373,"utterance_id":7374,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7375,"start_s":7376,"end_s":7377,"word_count":466,"indexable":13},1154,"83875","You know I gave... I'm not going to say the institution's name, but there was an educational institution with people so alike, so alike, so alike in skin color, in weight, in the way they dressed, everything, everything, everything identical, all identical, that people used to joke: look, mothers can't come to pick up their children from school because they might take the wrong boy.",7519.76,7542.12,{"idx":7379,"utterance_id":7380,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":3478,"start_s":7381,"end_s":7382,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},1155,"83876",7543.2,7543.48,{"idx":7384,"utterance_id":7385,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7386,"start_s":7387,"end_s":7388,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},1156,"83877","Such a lack of diversity.",7544.78,7546.9,{"idx":7390,"utterance_id":7391,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7392,"start_s":7393,"end_s":7394,"word_count":54,"indexable":13},1157,"83878","There's such a lack of understanding of what Brazil is.",7546.98,7550.5,{"idx":7396,"utterance_id":7397,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7398,"start_s":7399,"end_s":7400,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},1158,"83879","And we don't want that.",7551.2,7553.82,{"idx":7402,"utterance_id":7403,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7404,"start_s":7405,"end_s":7406,"word_count":293,"indexable":13},1159,"83880","We want the opposite; we want this Brazil that was inaugurated not long ago, but that looks at itself, is proud of itself, is not afraid to be who it is, knows the challenges ahead and decides to face them.",7554.58,7567.7,{"idx":7408,"utterance_id":7409,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7410,"start_s":7411,"end_s":7412,"word_count":126,"indexable":13},1160,"83881","So, what everyone here is asking is the following: let's acknowledge the problems and face the challenge.",7568.84,7573.56,{"idx":7414,"utterance_id":7415,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7416,"start_s":7417,"end_s":7418,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1161,"83882","Let's pretend they don't exist.",7573.94,7575.38,{"idx":7420,"utterance_id":7421,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7422,"start_s":7423,"end_s":7424,"word_count":299,"indexable":13},1162,"83883","So I'm very grateful to have heard this, because one thing is to read about it, another is to hear about it, and another is a testimony from someone who is feeling firsthand this critical moment that São Paulo's education is experiencing.",7575.92,7591.94,{"idx":7426,"utterance_id":7427,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7428,"start_s":7429,"end_s":7430,"word_count":234,"indexable":13},1163,"83884","So for us here, a great learning experience; this will greatly enrich the debate and our engagement in it, to draw the attention of those not in this room to the problems.",7592.02,7604.14,{"idx":7432,"utterance_id":7433,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7434,"start_s":7435,"end_s":7436,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},1164,"83885","that are happening in the schools here in São Paulo.",7604.18,7607.44,{"idx":7438,"utterance_id":7439,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7440,"start_s":7441,"end_s":7442,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},1165,"83886","So, my thanks to you all once again.",7607.48,7611.04,{"idx":7444,"utterance_id":7445,"speaker_name":115,"speaker_slug":116,"text":7446,"start_s":7447,"end_s":7448,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},1166,"83887","You need to know that you were very important to us.",7611.08,7615.16,{"idx":7450,"utterance_id":7451,"speaker_name":8,"text":7452,"start_s":7453,"end_s":7454,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},1167,"83888","Thank you very much, Haddad.",7615.86,7623.9,{"idx":7456,"utterance_id":7457,"speaker_name":8,"text":7458,"start_s":7459,"end_s":7460,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},1168,"83889","I just want to pass the floor very quickly, please.",7624.32,7628.48,{"idx":7462,"utterance_id":7463,"speaker_name":8,"text":5307,"start_s":7464,"end_s":7465,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},1169,"83890",7628.68,7629.28,{"idx":7467,"utterance_id":7468,"speaker_name":8,"text":7469,"start_s":7470,"end_s":7471,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},1170,"83891","Michele, can you speak to us, please?",7630.4,7632.36,{"idx":7473,"utterance_id":7474,"speaker_name":8,"text":7475,"start_s":7476,"end_s":7477,"word_count":43,"indexable":13},1171,"83892","In one minute, I promise.",7633.78,7634.8,{"idx":7479,"utterance_id":7480,"speaker_name":8,"text":7481,"start_s":7482,"end_s":7483,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":6274,"topic_label":6275,"target_id":7484,"target_proposition":7485,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":312,"rationale":7486,"indexable":191},1172,"83893","Just to pick up on that, I'm a teacher in the Municipal Education System; I was previously a professional in the State Education System.",7635.18,7640.12,"e547c7bf-dfca-4607-9738-3e594cead4fc","implement adequate public support for students with disabilities and educators","Personal account accuses the city\u002Fstate government of not serving students and educators — requests support.",{"idx":7488,"utterance_id":7489,"speaker_name":8,"text":7490,"start_s":7491,"end_s":7492,"word_count":173,"indexable":13},1173,"83894","My finger was mutilated by the classroom door—the iron door—during a crisis involving a student with an intellectual disability.",7640.86,7648.54,{"idx":7494,"utterance_id":7495,"speaker_name":8,"text":7496,"start_s":7497,"end_s":7498,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},1174,"83895","And who's to blame for that?",7648.7,7649.92,{"idx":7500,"utterance_id":7501,"speaker_name":8,"text":7502,"start_s":7503,"end_s":7504,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":7505,"topic_label":7506,"target_id":7507,"target_proposition":7508,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":840,"rationale":7509,"indexable":191},1175,"83896","A municipal government, in fact, that doesn't serve students, doesn't serve families, and least of all the educators.",7650.68,7656.3,"politicas-urbanas","Urban Policies","7205d3f1-2f4e-4554-b1f9-b78f34721b34","implement public support services (health and assistance) for families and students","States that families lack support from public agencies and face queues.",{"idx":7511,"utterance_id":7512,"speaker_name":8,"text":7513,"start_s":7514,"end_s":7515,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},1176,"83897","So it was a moment of crisis, the student kicked the classroom door and I was at the classroom door trying to mediate the situation.",7656.78,7663.8,{"idx":7517,"utterance_id":7518,"speaker_name":8,"text":7519,"start_s":7520,"end_s":7521,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},1177,"83898","I'm here with colleagues; union presidents are present.",7664.56,7667.28,{"idx":7523,"utterance_id":7524,"speaker_name":8,"text":7525,"start_s":7526,"end_s":7527,"word_count":179,"topic_slug":7528,"topic_label":7529,"target_id":7530,"target_proposition":7531,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":6059,"rationale":7532,"indexable":191},1178,"83899","This wasn't widely shared across the network, but if indeed it had been a student who lost their finger in the classroom, the teacher would be held responsible.",7667.76,7678.48,"protecao-ao-trabalhador-educador","Worker and Educator Protection","46a76c0b-adb6-4fa9-8485-379fea23f7a5","guarantee institutional support and appropriate accountability for teachers in school incidents","Reports that if a student lost a finger, the teacher would be unfairly held responsible.",{"idx":7534,"utterance_id":7535,"speaker_name":8,"text":7536,"start_s":7537,"end_s":7538,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},1179,"83900","The fact is families don't have that support from the public authorities.",7679.14,7683.36,{"idx":7540,"utterance_id":7541,"speaker_name":8,"text":7542,"start_s":7543,"end_s":7544,"word_count":97,"indexable":13},1180,"83901","At the State and municipal levels, there is no support from the agencies that could provide assistance.",7683.96,7688.6,{"idx":7546,"utterance_id":7547,"speaker_name":8,"text":7548,"start_s":7549,"end_s":7550,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},1181,"83902","Parents wait in line for a long time.",7688.66,7690.48,{"idx":7552,"utterance_id":7553,"speaker_name":8,"text":7554,"start_s":7555,"end_s":7556,"word_count":79,"indexable":13},1182,"83903","at the health clinic to obtain a referral to a neurologist, psychologist, etc.",7691.18,7695.14,{"idx":7558,"utterance_id":7559,"speaker_name":8,"text":7560,"start_s":7561,"end_s":7562,"word_count":173,"topic_slug":197,"topic_label":198,"target_id":7563,"target_proposition":7564,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":840,"rationale":7565,"indexable":191},1183,"83904","So this criminal policy, both of the State government and of the municipal government here in São Paulo, is in fact making professionals, family members, and students sick, and this is unacceptable.",7695.74,7709.16,"9d1f0f4d-7f5d-4777-b2cc-01f7aae9dafe","implement policies supporting educators' mental health and working conditions","Calls the State's action that makes professionals and students ill a 'política criminosa'.",{"idx":7567,"utterance_id":7568,"speaker_name":8,"text":7569,"start_s":7570,"end_s":7571,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":7572,"topic_label":7573,"target_id":7574,"target_proposition":7575,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":328,"rationale":7576,"indexable":191},1184,"83905","I'm here with my son, who also attends ETEC—a student in the state school system—and ETEC is also dilapidated.",7709.2,7714.68,"infraestrutura-e-saneamento","Infrastructure and Sanitation","e6042d56-b4e9-4422-b8ae-7186ab10a1e7","invest in infrastructure for state schools and ETECs","Reports the deterioration of his son's ETEC — requests improvements in the state school network.",{"idx":7578,"utterance_id":7579,"speaker_name":8,"text":7580,"start_s":7581,"end_s":7582,"word_count":56,"indexable":13},1185,"83906","I thank Marina for asking to speak.",7715.52,7716.78,{"idx":7584,"utterance_id":7585,"speaker_name":8,"text":7586,"start_s":7587,"end_s":7588,"word_count":264,"topic_slug":6274,"topic_label":6275,"target_id":6276,"target_proposition":6277,"stance":188,"stance_confidence":189,"rationale":7589,"indexable":191},1186,"83907","I know I skipped protocol, but... Since we're talking about inclusion, effective inclusion is necessary for all students, so that they actually have the education they deserve in schools, and not outside them.",7716.82,7728.8,"States the need for effective inclusion so students receive adequate education.",{"idx":7591,"utterance_id":7592,"speaker_name":8,"text":7593,"start_s":7594,"end_s":7595,"word_count":133,"indexable":13},1187,"83908","They have to learn there, and that is, in fact, an inclusion of all of us—society, students, students with disabilities.",7728.84,7734.4,{"idx":7597,"utterance_id":7598,"speaker_name":8,"text":7599,"start_s":7600,"end_s":7601,"word_count":61,"indexable":13},1188,"83909","Thank you very much, and we're rooting for you to be governor.",7734.48,7737.28,{"idx":7603,"utterance_id":7604,"speaker_name":8,"text":7605,"start_s":7606,"end_s":7607,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},1189,"83910","Thank you so 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