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greetings to you, to Rafael, to Wilson and to everyone following us across this entire TMC group, not only in São Paulo but throughout Brazil.",37.02,47.34,31,{"idx":80,"utterance_id":123,"speaker_name":69,"text":124,"start_s":125,"end_s":126,"word_count":49,"indexable":74},"147388","Well, since we have 21 minutes for the interview, I'll ask you to be concise so we can cover several topics.",48.14,54.52,{"idx":128,"utterance_id":129,"speaker_name":69,"text":130,"start_s":131,"end_s":132,"word_count":133,"indexable":74},9,"147389","And we always start with a question we ask all the candidates.",54.66,58.6,16,{"idx":4,"utterance_id":135,"speaker_name":69,"text":136,"start_s":137,"end_s":138,"word_count":139,"indexable":74},"147390","Why do you want to be a senator and what will be the main priority of your term?",59.08,63.44,15,{"idx":141,"utterance_id":142,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":143,"start_s":144,"end_s":145,"word_count":82,"indexable":74},11,"147391","Thank you, Fernanda.",63.48,64.66,{"idx":147,"utterance_id":148,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":149,"start_s":150,"end_s":151,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":152,"topic_label":153,"target_id":154,"target_proposition":155,"stance":156,"stance_confidence":157,"rationale":158,"indexable":159},12,"147392","Well, I want to be the voice of São Paulo.",64.76,66.42,"representacao-politica","Political Representation","84c91a03-e21b-4d8b-b858-6bfbfcd9ec08","represent and give voice to voters in the National Congress","a_favor",0.9,"declares wanting to be 'a voz de São Paulo' in the Senate.",true,{"idx":161,"utterance_id":162,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":163,"start_s":164,"end_s":165,"word_count":114,"indexable":74},13,"147393","São Paulo is the engine of Brazil.",66.8,68.46,{"idx":106,"utterance_id":167,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":168,"start_s":169,"end_s":170,"word_count":128,"indexable":74},"147394","If São Paulo does well, Brazil does well.",68.88,70.82,{"idx":139,"utterance_id":172,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":173,"start_s":174,"end_s":175,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},"147395","When São Paulo does poorly, Brazil feels it first.",71.02,75.28,{"idx":133,"utterance_id":177,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":178,"start_s":179,"end_s":180,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},"147396","São Paulo is the state that produces the most, that generates the most employment and income.",76.24,79.06,{"idx":182,"utterance_id":183,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":184,"start_s":185,"end_s":186,"word_count":187,"indexable":74},17,"147397","And I believe that, because of my background, I have experience; 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The wrongdoers were the allied parties, which are the MDB, PP, which took directorates at Petrobras; so much so that I never accused the president himself of any kind of corruption crime — that was not in the script and it isn’t to this day — but it was proven that the allied parties entered Petrobras, had directorates within Petrobras and, regrettably, history tells the end of that film.",753.34,785.7,{"idx":893,"utterance_id":894,"speaker_name":69,"text":895,"start_s":896,"end_s":897,"word_count":147,"indexable":74},123,"147503","Madam, you took over planning defending fiscal responsibility and a review of spending.",786.1,791.02,{"idx":899,"utterance_id":900,"speaker_name":69,"text":901,"start_s":902,"end_s":903,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},124,"147504","However, the government resorted to exceptions to the fiscal framework and postponed part of the fiscal effort.",791.6,797.24,{"idx":905,"utterance_id":906,"speaker_name":69,"text":907,"start_s":908,"end_s":909,"word_count":101,"indexable":74},125,"147505","Where did your economic agenda lose ground?",797.64,799.48,{"idx":911,"utterance_id":912,"speaker_name":69,"text":913,"start_s":914,"end_s":915,"word_count":108,"indexable":74},126,"147506","to the government’s political agenda?",799.88,801.4,{"idx":917,"utterance_id":918,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":919,"start_s":920,"end_s":921,"word_count":245,"indexable":74},127,"147507","Regrettably, the economic agenda is losing to... I liked that phrase — Fernando will start to use it, because I couldn’t sum it up in a few words.",802.3,810.44,{"idx":923,"utterance_id":924,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":925,"start_s":926,"end_s":927,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},128,"147508","Regrettably, Brazil’s economic agenda, which we want for the next four years, has been losing to politics — to the political agenda or the electoral\u002Fpartisan agenda — for a long time.",811.04,822.66,{"idx":929,"utterance_id":930,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":931,"start_s":932,"end_s":933,"word_count":106,"indexable":74},129,"147509","It lost in these four years, it lost in the previous four, it’s been losing since Fernando Henrique onward.",823.22,829.5,{"idx":935,"utterance_id":936,"speaker_name":116,"speaker_slug":117,"text":937,"start_s":938,"end_s":939,"word_count":326,"indexable":74},130,"147510","Because, regrettably, again, we have an absurd number of parties — and even if it’s decreasing, we can’t 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