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you.",12.2,14.12,8,{"idx":42,"utterance_id":43,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":44,"start_s":45,"end_s":46,"word_count":47,"indexable":14},5,"153736","Silvia, it's a pleasure to be here with you at Estado de Minas.",14.18,16.74,10,{"idx":49,"utterance_id":50,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":51,"start_s":52,"end_s":53,"word_count":42,"indexable":14},6,"153737","Pleasure to have you here as well.",16.78,18.24,{"idx":55,"utterance_id":56,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":57,"start_s":58,"end_s":59,"word_count":60,"indexable":14},7,"153738","Sharing this panel with me is Silvia Pires, political reporter for Estado de Minas.",18.72,22.22,12,{"idx":40,"utterance_id":62,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":63,"start_s":64,"end_s":65,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},"153739","All right?",22.46,22.78,{"idx":67,"utterance_id":68,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":31,"start_s":69,"end_s":70,"word_count":28,"indexable":14},9,"153740",23.72,24.52,{"idx":47,"utterance_id":72,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":73,"start_s":74,"end_s":75,"word_count":76,"indexable":14},"153741","Gabriel, as I said before, sir, you are a pre-candidate for governor of Minas for the MDB.",25.22,28.94,15,{"idx":78,"utterance_id":79,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":80,"start_s":81,"end_s":82,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},11,"153742","What led you to take this step?",29.3,30.54,{"idx":60,"utterance_id":84,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":85,"start_s":86,"end_s":87,"word_count":88,"indexable":14},"153743","We have recently followed the process of putting forward candidacies for the Presidency of the Republic of Brazil.",31.94,38.26,16,{"idx":90,"utterance_id":91,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":92,"start_s":93,"end_s":94,"word_count":95,"topic_slug":96,"topic_label":97,"target_id":98,"target_proposition":99,"stance":100,"stance_confidence":101,"rationale":102,"indexable":103},13,"153744","And my feeling is that political parties, at the national level, have been working so that the voter is cornered into decisions made by very few people.",39.42,53.98,30,"partidos-etica-partidaria","Parties \u002F Party Ethics","be33b850-36ef-465a-8c65-4e58dc549487","democratize party processes and expand electoral options","neutro_descritivo",0.75,"Reports a feeling that parties corner voters without proposing explicit action.",true,{"idx":105,"utterance_id":106,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":107,"start_s":108,"end_s":109,"word_count":55,"topic_slug":96,"topic_label":97,"target_id":98,"target_proposition":99,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":111,"rationale":112,"indexable":14},14,"153745","That cannot happen in Minas Gerais.",55.28,56.8,"a_favor",0.9,"Says 'isso não pode acontecer', advocating greater democratization\u002Fmore options.",{"idx":76,"utterance_id":114,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":115,"start_s":116,"end_s":117,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":96,"topic_label":97,"target_id":98,"target_proposition":99,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":118,"rationale":119,"indexable":103},"153746","In other words, the Minas voter needs to have more than one option.",57.58,62,0.92,"Explicitly says that the voter needs to have more than one 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The governor requested the suspension of Minas Gerais's debt with the Union.",139.64,146.8,"financas-municipais","Municipal Finance","c1d01a25-41b1-4b6a-94ff-141873ac2828","ensure responsible fiscal management and transparency in state public accounts","Reports a request to suspend the debt at the end of the Pimentel government without proposing immediate action.",{"idx":231,"utterance_id":232,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":233,"start_s":234,"end_s":235,"word_count":78,"topic_slug":225,"topic_label":226,"target_id":236,"target_proposition":237,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":125,"rationale":238,"indexable":103},33,"153764","We went years without paying the credit card bill.",147.48,151.58,"9212cfc8-88db-47f2-879c-7db5cfaa58c3","recover the state's finances","Criticizes years without paying the 'fatura', implying support for settling it and fiscal balance.",{"idx":240,"utterance_id":241,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":242,"start_s":243,"end_s":244,"word_count":90,"topic_slug":225,"topic_label":226,"target_id":236,"target_proposition":237,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":245,"rationale":246,"indexable":103},34,"153765","And this kept piling up, piling up, piling up and generating huge interest.",152.38,156.92,0.8,"Points to huge interest rates as a consequence, advocating correction of fiscal management.",{"idx":248,"utterance_id":249,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":250,"start_s":251,"end_s":252,"word_count":47,"indexable":14},35,"153766","Voters only need to imagine if this happened in their own household.",157.3,161.46,{"idx":254,"utterance_id":255,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":256,"start_s":257,"end_s":258,"word_count":78,"indexable":14},36,"153767","Are we going to pretend that the credit card bill doesn't 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flaw.",1122.48,1123.68,{"idx":1899,"utterance_id":1900,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1901,"start_s":1902,"end_s":1903,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},298,"154029","I read a lot — everything, all the time.",1123.92,1126.36,{"idx":1905,"utterance_id":1906,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1907,"start_s":1908,"end_s":1909,"word_count":145,"indexable":14},299,"154030","When you read that document, you say, 'hey, there could be a route here, there could be a route here.'",1126.84,1129.98,{"idx":1911,"utterance_id":1912,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1913,"start_s":1914,"end_s":1915,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":1607,"topic_label":1608,"target_id":1609,"target_proposition":1610,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":111,"rationale":1916,"indexable":103},300,"154031","So, I pick them out, and I'll show this throughout the pre-campaign and campaign: at least 10 structural railways that we can build.",1130,1138.04,"promises to present at least 10 structural rail lines 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Folks, what is the prison system going through?",1667.52,1675,{"idx":2782,"utterance_id":2783,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2784,"start_s":2785,"end_s":2786,"word_count":40,"indexable":14},435,"154166","Have you talked to a prison officer recently?",1675.6,1678.1,{"idx":2788,"utterance_id":2789,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":692,"start_s":2790,"end_s":2791,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},436,"154167",1678.24,1678.38,{"idx":2793,"utterance_id":2794,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2795,"start_s":2796,"end_s":2797,"word_count":47,"indexable":14},437,"154168","You have no idea what those guys are going through.",1678.4,1680.92,{"idx":2799,"utterance_id":2800,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":2801,"start_s":2802,"end_s":2803,"word_count":40,"indexable":14},438,"154169","And then there's those who take care of juvenile 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but my stance is very solid.",1895.28,1900.1,{"idx":3118,"utterance_id":3119,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":751,"start_s":3120,"end_s":3121,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},490,"154221",1900.4,1900.7,{"idx":3123,"utterance_id":3124,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3125,"start_s":3126,"end_s":3127,"word_count":128,"indexable":14},491,"154222","Because I don't see today, Ana, anyone offering in this electoral process the stance I'm offering.",1901.06,1906.94,{"idx":3129,"utterance_id":3130,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3131,"start_s":3132,"end_s":3133,"word_count":67,"topic_slug":2921,"topic_label":2922,"target_id":3134,"target_proposition":3135,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":111,"rationale":3136,"indexable":103},492,"154223","I'm not primarily trying to be someone's campaign platform.",1908.14,1911.36,"2e593840-8af0-4a40-bb77-077a3c17610c","not allow the former governor to appear on my campaign platform","explicitly declares 'não estou prioritariamente 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different.",1921.92,1922.64,{"idx":3157,"utterance_id":3158,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3159,"start_s":3160,"end_s":3161,"word_count":13,"topic_slug":2921,"topic_label":2922,"target_id":3162,"target_proposition":3163,"stance":100,"stance_confidence":101,"rationale":3164,"indexable":103},496,"154227","A personal need of President Lula to build a platform, not only his but also Flávio Bolsonaro's in Minas Gerais.",1923.46,1930.5,"6fafa58e-14ea-4a8c-9fbd-57698ea98b3f","build a campaign stage in Minas Gerais for a presidential candidate","describes the need for presidents on the campaign trail, without taking a position.",{"idx":3166,"utterance_id":3167,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3168,"start_s":3169,"end_s":3170,"word_count":76,"topic_slug":2921,"topic_label":2922,"target_id":3171,"target_proposition":3172,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":381,"rationale":3173,"indexable":103},497,"154228","Their personal need can't be greater than the need of the people of Minas.",1930.86,1934.04,"ae2e3f19-d40e-4b4c-af7a-1240b3748a24","prioritize the needs of the people of Minas over national campaign interests","asserts that personal interest cannot outweigh the people's needs.",{"idx":3175,"utterance_id":3176,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3177,"start_s":3178,"end_s":3179,"word_count":47,"topic_slug":2921,"topic_label":2922,"target_id":3171,"target_proposition":3172,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":625,"rationale":3180,"indexable":14},498,"154229","That construction can't override your will?",1934.22,1936.52,"uses a rhetorical question to stress that the process must not override the popular will.",{"idx":3182,"utterance_id":3183,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3184,"start_s":3185,"end_s":3186,"word_count":40,"indexable":14},499,"154230","For example, a conversation with Baleia Rossi?",1936.54,1938.22,{"idx":3188,"utterance_id":3189,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3190,"start_s":3191,"end_s":3192,"word_count":47,"indexable":14},500,"154231","There's one thing that's very clear throughout this whole process.",1939.02,1942,{"idx":3194,"utterance_id":3195,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3196,"start_s":3197,"end_s":3198,"word_count":42,"indexable":14},501,"154232","I'll have to cite it.",1942.84,1943.6,{"idx":3200,"utterance_id":3201,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3202,"start_s":3203,"end_s":3204,"word_count":168,"topic_slug":3205,"topic_label":3206,"target_id":3207,"target_proposition":3208,"stance":100,"stance_confidence":101,"rationale":3209,"indexable":103},502,"154233","Estado de Minas even published a piece that presented Rodrigo Pacheco's affiliation to the MDB as certain in order to be Lula's candidate.",1943.62,1951.2,"filiacao-partidaria","Party Membership","d241ecae-1173-4ba7-9995-5652660f33e9","affirm Rodrigo Pacheco's affiliation to the MDB","reports a news article that presented the affiliation as certain.",{"idx":3211,"utterance_id":3212,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3213,"start_s":3214,"end_s":3215,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},503,"154234","That was a claim that was made.",1951.62,1952.86,{"idx":3217,"utterance_id":3218,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3219,"start_s":3220,"end_s":3221,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},504,"154235","That caused trouble in my life.",1954.5,1955.9,{"idx":3223,"utterance_id":3224,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":751,"start_s":3225,"end_s":3226,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},505,"154236",1956.7,1957.02,{"idx":3228,"utterance_id":3229,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3230,"start_s":3231,"end_s":3232,"word_count":78,"indexable":14},506,"154237","Because people, from that article on, began to say, see?",1957.74,1961.96,{"idx":3234,"utterance_id":3235,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3236,"start_s":3237,"end_s":3238,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},507,"154238","Look at the MDB running over Gabriel.",1963.14,1964.78,{"idx":3240,"utterance_id":3241,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3242,"start_s":3243,"end_s":3244,"word_count":47,"indexable":14},508,"154239","And Baleia Rossi, national president, and Nilton Cardoso",1966.18,1968.68,{"idx":3246,"utterance_id":3247,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3248,"start_s":3249,"end_s":3250,"word_count":16,"indexable":14},509,"154240","Jr.,",1968.72,1968.8,{"idx":3252,"utterance_id":3253,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3254,"start_s":3255,"end_s":3256,"word_count":105,"topic_slug":3205,"topic_label":3206,"target_id":3257,"target_proposition":3258,"stance":100,"stance_confidence":101,"rationale":3259,"indexable":103},510,"154241","state president, made a point, immediately, not only to deny it, but to reaffirm.",1969.7,1975.02,"512ebc1d-99e2-4e44-9026-eeabf02e103e","deny Rodrigo Pacheco's affiliation with MDB","reports that leaders denied and immediately reaffirmed the position.",{"idx":3261,"utterance_id":3262,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3263,"start_s":3264,"end_s":3265,"word_count":40,"topic_slug":3205,"topic_label":3206,"target_id":3266,"target_proposition":3267,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":125,"rationale":3268,"indexable":103},511,"154242","The MDB is not a party with an owner.",1975.16,1977.56,"a863afdb-c66a-443d-b08e-2492b3cf2c35","ensure internal democracy within parties","states categorically 'o MDB não é um partido com dono'.",{"idx":3270,"utterance_id":3271,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3272,"start_s":3273,"end_s":3274,"word_count":105,"indexable":14},512,"154243","This is a very clear characteristic of the Movimento Democrático Brasileiro, which turned 60 years",1978.26,1981.62,{"idx":3276,"utterance_id":3277,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3278,"start_s":3279,"end_s":3280,"word_count":67,"indexable":14},513,"154244","in 2026, and is, yes, different from other parties.",1982.04,1985.36,{"idx":3282,"utterance_id":3283,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3284,"start_s":3285,"end_s":3286,"word_count":151,"indexable":14},514,"154245","Not without defects, not without problems, but it's a party that, in Belo Horizonte, has an executive directory with an elected president.",1985.7,1992.76,{"idx":3288,"utterance_id":3289,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3290,"start_s":3291,"end_s":3292,"word_count":28,"indexable":14},515,"154246","In this case, me.",1993.02,1993.48,{"idx":877,"utterance_id":3294,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3295,"start_s":3296,"end_s":3297,"word_count":49,"indexable":14},"154247","In Minas, the president is 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level.",2003.54,2007.6,{"idx":3323,"utterance_id":3324,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3325,"start_s":3326,"end_s":3327,"word_count":28,"indexable":14},521,"154252","They're provisional commissions.",2007.88,2009.22,{"idx":3329,"utterance_id":3330,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3331,"start_s":3332,"end_s":3333,"word_count":67,"topic_slug":3205,"topic_label":3206,"target_id":3334,"target_proposition":3335,"stance":100,"stance_confidence":625,"rationale":3336,"indexable":14},522,"154253","So what is decided in Brasília... is imposed.",2009.7,2012.1,"a5e10a51-3587-497d-b001-6606782b009b","centralize party decisions in national instances","claims that in other parties decisions are imposed from Brasília.",{"idx":3338,"utterance_id":3339,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3340,"start_s":3341,"end_s":3342,"word_count":88,"indexable":14},523,"154254","It's the case of the PSD, it's the case of the PP, of União, of the Republicanos, if I'm not 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anxiety.",2112.76,2116.14,{"idx":3485,"utterance_id":3486,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3487,"start_s":3488,"end_s":3489,"word_count":90,"indexable":14},546,"154277","Naturally, the press and the political world are eager to compose the lineup.",2116.44,2119.54,{"idx":3491,"utterance_id":3492,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3493,"start_s":3494,"end_s":3495,"word_count":55,"indexable":14},547,"154278","The timing of Minas Gerais politics is different.",2120.32,2121.88,{"idx":3497,"utterance_id":3498,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3499,"start_s":3500,"end_s":3501,"word_count":231,"indexable":14},548,"154279","You remember that in the process for mayor of Belo Horizonte, there was a harmony that developed between my candidacy and Paulo Brant's candidacy, who was in the PSB at the time.",2121.9,2137.2,{"idx":3503,"utterance_id":3504,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3505,"start_s":3506,"end_s":3507,"word_count":60,"indexable":14},549,"154280","Paulo 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Estádio de Minas interview and commented about you, speaking about this possibility of you two closing a ticket there, one or the other as vice.",2357.3,2367.64,{"idx":3874,"utterance_id":3875,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3876,"start_s":3877,"end_s":3878,"word_count":13,"indexable":14},606,"154337","But he made a statement that this alliance would not be possible because he sees you as a left-wing candidate.",2368.2,2373.98,{"idx":3880,"utterance_id":3881,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3882,"start_s":3883,"end_s":3884,"word_count":40,"indexable":14},607,"154338","How do you view that assertion of his?",2374.36,2376.38,{"idx":3886,"utterance_id":3887,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":3888,"start_s":3889,"end_s":3890,"word_count":220,"indexable":14},608,"154339","I see it as a moment in his speech, insofar as he himself had dealings with President Michel Temer and with Baleia Rossi, negotiating his move to the 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Well, I live on Rua dos Tupis, I already have a residence in Belo Horizonte, I don't need to rent, no.",3444.06,3451.06,{"idx":5393,"utterance_id":5394,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5395,"start_s":5396,"end_s":5397,"word_count":35,"indexable":14},852,"154583","I'm there, I'm fine.",3451.74,3452.54,{"idx":5399,"utterance_id":5400,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5401,"start_s":5402,"end_s":5403,"word_count":78,"indexable":14},853,"154584","The palaces stay as they are, I'm very well in my residence.",3454.7,3457.78,{"idx":5405,"utterance_id":5406,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5407,"start_s":5408,"end_s":5409,"word_count":47,"indexable":14},854,"154585","From downtown to the administrative city, you can go while working.",3458.78,3462.56,{"idx":5411,"utterance_id":5412,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5413,"start_s":5414,"end_s":5415,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},855,"154586","The phone doesn't stop, you read the newspaper, I'll read in Estado de Minas, everything will be fine.",3463.62,3467.86,{"idx":5417,"utterance_id":5418,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5419,"start_s":5420,"end_s":5421,"word_count":47,"topic_slug":5178,"topic_label":5179,"target_id":5180,"target_proposition":5181,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":125,"rationale":5422,"indexable":103},856,"154587","So, the administrative city needs access, maintenance and government.",3467.88,3473.1,"summarizes that the administrative city needs 'manutenção'.",{"idx":5424,"utterance_id":5425,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5426,"start_s":5427,"end_s":5428,"word_count":105,"indexable":14},857,"154588","being alive and functioning there, that values public servants and stands by them.",3473.18,3477.04,{"idx":5430,"utterance_id":5431,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5432,"start_s":5433,"end_s":5434,"word_count":128,"indexable":14},858,"154589","That's what the administrative city needs, because that there is an advancement that the State achieved.",3477.4,3481.22,{"idx":5436,"utterance_id":5437,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5438,"start_s":5439,"end_s":5440,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":5441,"topic_label":5442,"target_id":5443,"target_proposition":5444,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":1662,"rationale":5445,"indexable":103},859,"154590","Above all, are we going to remove all the museums from Praça da Liberdade?",3481.9,3484.8,"patrimonio-historico","Cultural Heritage","be1e3faf-0fe3-401d-aa9e-9302cf890efb","protect and preserve historical heritage","questions 'vamos tirar os museus da Praça da Liberdade?' criticizing the removal.",{"idx":5447,"utterance_id":5448,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5449,"start_s":5450,"end_s":5451,"word_count":42,"indexable":14},860,"154591","What are we going to do?",3485.46,3485.98,{"idx":5453,"utterance_id":5454,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5455,"start_s":5456,"end_s":5457,"word_count":78,"indexable":14},861,"154592","The CCBB... 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No, but there are a thousand ideas.",3501.26,3505.42,{"idx":5501,"utterance_id":5502,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5503,"start_s":5504,"end_s":5505,"word_count":23,"indexable":14},869,"154600","A thousand ideas.",3506.04,3506.44,{"idx":1469,"utterance_id":5507,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5508,"start_s":5509,"end_s":5510,"word_count":78,"topic_slug":5511,"topic_label":5512,"target_id":5513,"target_proposition":5514,"stance":110,"stance_confidence":381,"rationale":5515,"indexable":103},"154601","It will start with the square itself, which needs to be more alive.",3506.46,3508.6,"desenvolvimento-urbano-e-cultura","Urban Development and Culture","4d111614-5457-482d-91c4-aa50bdd39a2e","invest in urban revitalization and cultural facilities","proposes that the square be 'mais viva' and that the bandstand have 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Liberdade, the Palácio da Liberdade, is the official residence of the governors of Minas Gerais.",3523.66,3528.84,{"idx":5570,"utterance_id":5571,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5572,"start_s":5573,"end_s":5574,"word_count":78,"indexable":14},879,"154610","By the way, let me tell you, that city was inaugurated.",3529.54,3532.86,{"idx":5576,"utterance_id":5577,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5578,"start_s":5579,"end_s":5580,"word_count":67,"indexable":14},880,"154611","Governors passed who sat in the presidency during the Old Republic.",3534.02,3537.38,{"idx":5582,"utterance_id":5583,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5584,"start_s":5585,"end_s":5586,"word_count":67,"indexable":14},881,"154612","There was a moment of the 1930 coup d'état.",3538.36,3540.1,{"idx":5588,"utterance_id":5589,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5590,"start_s":5591,"end_s":5592,"word_count":67,"indexable":14},882,"154613","From there, we had Benedito Valadares, the longest-serving.",3541.48,3544.6,{"idx":5594,"utterance_id":5595,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5596,"start_s":5597,"end_s":5598,"word_count":47,"indexable":14},883,"154614","a governor appointed by Getúlio Vargas, Milton Campos, Juscelino Kubitschek.",3544.92,3550.44,{"idx":5600,"utterance_id":5601,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5602,"start_s":5603,"end_s":5604,"word_count":128,"indexable":14},884,"154615","It was from that balcony that Tancredo said that Minas' first commitment is with freedom.",3551,3555,{"idx":5606,"utterance_id":5607,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5608,"start_s":5609,"end_s":5610,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},885,"154616","That place is not a toy, not a rental hall, not a party space.",3556,3562.02,{"idx":5612,"utterance_id":5613,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5614,"start_s":5615,"end_s":5616,"word_count":151,"indexable":14},886,"154617","That place is for the governor of Minas Gerais to receive the Emperor of Japan, the 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The Palácio Bandeirantes isn't. 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And I say this here without fear of losing votes.",3625.26,3627.58,{"idx":5723,"utterance_id":5724,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5725,"start_s":5726,"end_s":5727,"word_count":139,"indexable":14},903,"154634","Because if you're going to be the governor of events in the Palace, you're better off running to be an event promoter.",3627.98,3632.48,{"idx":5729,"utterance_id":5730,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5731,"start_s":5732,"end_s":5733,"word_count":40,"indexable":14},904,"154635","Here we have to respect Minas Gerais.",3633.54,3636.32,{"idx":5735,"utterance_id":5736,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":5737,"start_s":5738,"end_s":5739,"word_count":88,"indexable":14},905,"154636","The governor's position, people, is only less important than the presidency of the 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