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everyone, welcome to another edition of Barão on the 2026 elections.",0.46,8.86,20,false,{"idx":15,"utterance_id":16,"speaker_name":8,"text":17,"start_s":18,"end_s":19,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},1,"68770","Let's go, our guest today is lawyer, professor, Senator of the Republic and former presidential candidate Simone Tebet.",9.08,18.5,19,{"idx":22,"utterance_id":23,"speaker_name":8,"text":24,"start_s":25,"end_s":26,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},2,"68771","Welcome, our pre-candidate for the Senate from the State of São Paulo.",18.82,23.68,10,{"idx":29,"utterance_id":30,"speaker_name":8,"text":31,"start_s":32,"end_s":33,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},3,"68772","It's a pleasure to have you with us.",24.24,25.66,5,{"idx":36,"utterance_id":37,"speaker_name":8,"text":38,"start_s":39,"end_s":40,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},4,"68773","Simone Tebet, I'll make a quick... the introduction, obviously everyone knows Simone Tebet, but I'll read it here formally: Simone Tebet is 52 years old, born in Três Lagoas, Mato Grosso do Sul, and grew up in a family with a strong political tradition.",26.78,43.72,44,{"idx":34,"utterance_id":43,"speaker_name":8,"text":44,"start_s":45,"end_s":46,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},"68774","She graduated in law from the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro, was also a university professor and legal consultant before entering public life.",44.28,52.62,25,{"idx":49,"utterance_id":50,"speaker_name":8,"text":51,"start_s":52,"end_s":53,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},6,"68775","In 2002 she was elected state deputy and two years later became the first woman elected mayor of Três Lagoas, being re-elected with 76% of the votes.",53.2,65.2,{"idx":55,"utterance_id":56,"speaker_name":8,"text":57,"start_s":58,"end_s":59,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},7,"68776","In 2010 she made history again by becoming the first vice-governor of Mato Grosso do Sul.",65.84,71.82,17,{"idx":62,"utterance_id":63,"speaker_name":8,"text":64,"start_s":65,"end_s":66,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},8,"68777","Four years later she was elected Senator of the Republic, where she led the women's caucus and became the first woman to preside over the Committee on Constitution and Justice of the Senate.",72.68,83.6,30,{"idx":69,"utterance_id":70,"speaker_name":8,"text":71,"start_s":72,"end_s":73,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},9,"68778","Nothing less than the chamber's most important committee, right?",83.88,87.08,12,{"idx":27,"utterance_id":76,"speaker_name":8,"text":77,"start_s":78,"end_s":79,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},"68779","And also to run for the presidency of that chamber.",87.66,90.3,{"idx":81,"utterance_id":82,"speaker_name":8,"text":83,"start_s":84,"end_s":85,"word_count":86,"indexable":13},11,"68780","She was recently Minister of Planning and Budget in Lula's third government and currently, as I said, is a pre-candidate for the Senate for São Paulo.",91,98.56,22,{"idx":74,"utterance_id":88,"speaker_name":8,"text":89,"start_s":90,"end_s":91,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},"68781","Welcome once again and thank you for accepting our invitation.",99.08,102.86,13,{"idx":92,"utterance_id":94,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":97,"start_s":98,"end_s":99,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},"68782","Simone Tebet","simone-tebet","Thank you, Samira.",103.44,104.6,{"idx":101,"utterance_id":102,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":103,"start_s":104,"end_s":105,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},14,"68783","I want, on your behalf, to greet everyone who is following us on Barão de Itararé.",105.72,109.74,{"idx":107,"utterance_id":108,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":109,"start_s":110,"end_s":111,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},15,"68784","It's a pleasure to be here so we can have this democratic conversation with various independent media outlets.",109.96,117.5,18,{"idx":114,"utterance_id":115,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":116,"start_s":117,"end_s":118,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},16,"68785","I've had the privilege of giving interviews to most of them.",117.58,120.48,{"idx":60,"utterance_id":120,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":121,"start_s":122,"end_s":123,"word_count":124,"indexable":13},"68786","And I'll start with two observations: thank you for the invitation and thank you because you gave me at least four more years of life.",120.96,127.66,23,{"idx":112,"utterance_id":126,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":127,"start_s":128,"end_s":129,"word_count":130,"indexable":13},"68787","You said I'm 52 years old — good thing you round down and not up — but unfortunately I have already reached 56, importantly in good health.",128.3,137.14,29,{"idx":20,"utterance_id":132,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":133,"start_s":134,"end_s":135,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},"68788","So, to start with that affectionate reference you made about the many \"firsts\" I had in my political life.",137.72,146.12,21,{"idx":12,"utterance_id":138,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":139,"start_s":140,"end_s":141,"word_count":142,"topic_slug":143,"topic_label":144,"target_id":145,"target_proposition":146,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":149,"indexable":150},"68789","It makes us think how important it is that we, women, remain in public life, so we can have more and more women and not have to carry on our chest the label of being \"the first.\"",146.54,159.26,34,"governanca-e-participacao","Governance and Participation","f745aaa5-da73-46c1-a592-c4b2e0830690","increase women's political participation","a_favor",0.9,"Explicitly defends continuity and women's presence in public life.",true,{"idx":136,"utterance_id":152,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":153,"start_s":154,"end_s":155,"word_count":20,"topic_slug":143,"topic_label":144,"target_id":145,"target_proposition":146,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":157,"indexable":150},"68790","We want to be the hundredth; we don't want to still be, in the 21st century, having to blaze so many trails.",159.48,166.88,0.88,"Reaffirms that women should stop being 'as primeiras' and occupy more spaces.",{"idx":86,"utterance_id":159,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":160,"start_s":161,"end_s":162,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},"68791","So, it's a pleasure to be here to talk about politics, about São Paulo and about Brazil.",167.18,171.76,{"idx":124,"utterance_id":164,"speaker_name":8,"text":165,"start_s":166,"end_s":167,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},"68792","Thank you, pre-candidate.",173.22,174.84,{"idx":169,"utterance_id":170,"speaker_name":8,"text":171,"start_s":172,"end_s":173,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},24,"68793","Well, our format will be divided into three blocks, with the participation of journalists from different independent media outlets.",175.24,181.98,{"idx":47,"utterance_id":175,"speaker_name":8,"text":176,"start_s":177,"end_s":178,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},"68794","And in the first block we will receive the dear Heloísa Vilela, from ICL Notícias, and the dear Eleonora Lucena, from Tutameia.",182.46,190.16,{"idx":180,"utterance_id":181,"speaker_name":8,"text":182,"start_s":183,"end_s":184,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},26,"68795","Welcome to our news.",190.44,192.08,{"idx":186,"utterance_id":187,"speaker_name":8,"text":188,"start_s":189,"end_s":190,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},27,"68796","And I now pass the floor to Heloísa Vilela, from ICL.",193.04,196.56,{"idx":192,"utterance_id":193,"speaker_name":8,"text":194,"start_s":195,"end_s":196,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},28,"68797","Thank you, Heloísa.",196.76,197.94,{"idx":130,"utterance_id":198,"speaker_name":8,"text":199,"start_s":200,"end_s":201,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},"68798","Thank you.",198.6,199.52,{"idx":67,"utterance_id":203,"speaker_name":8,"text":204,"start_s":205,"end_s":206,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},"68799","Deputy, Senator, Governor, Minister Simone Tebet, thank you for giving us this space.",200.22,206.12,{"idx":208,"utterance_id":209,"speaker_name":8,"text":210,"start_s":211,"end_s":212,"word_count":213,"topic_slug":214,"topic_label":215,"target_id":216,"target_proposition":217,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":220,"indexable":13},31,"68800","I'd like to go straight to the electoral campaign, because we've seen that President Lula's government has very positive figures: increases in wages, inflation under control, number of people employed — in short, several very positive indicators.",206.64,226.56,42,"politica-monetaria","Monetary Policy","d75af90c-10b9-4544-b360-4a878298cd79","prioritize employment and income policies","neutro_descritivo",0.7,"Reports positive government indicators without proposing any action of its own.",{"idx":222,"utterance_id":223,"speaker_name":8,"text":224,"start_s":225,"end_s":226,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},32,"68801","But, unfortunately, it seems that...",226.94,228.6,{"idx":228,"utterance_id":229,"speaker_name":8,"text":230,"start_s":231,"end_s":232,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":233,"topic_label":234,"target_id":235,"target_proposition":236,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":237,"indexable":13},33,"68802","this information doesn't resonate with the electorate.",229.08,232.98,"comunicacao-governamental","Government Communication","72692294-f759-4133-bbdb-304779125e45","improve political communication with female voters","States that positive statistics are not being perceived by the electorate.",{"idx":142,"utterance_id":239,"speaker_name":8,"text":240,"start_s":241,"end_s":242,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":233,"topic_label":234,"target_id":235,"target_proposition":236,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":243,"indexable":13},"68803","Somehow, the electorate does not reflect these good numbers.",233.06,238.7,"Notes a discrepancy between economic indicators and the electorate's perception.",{"idx":245,"utterance_id":246,"speaker_name":8,"text":247,"start_s":248,"end_s":249,"word_count":62,"topic_slug":250,"topic_label":251,"target_id":252,"target_proposition":253,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":254,"indexable":13},35,"68804","Even lifting everyone out of hunger again.",239,243.6,"politica-social","Social Policy","681530e4-ebfc-43ef-9047-14eebffc4e0e","eradicate hunger through social programs like Bolsa Família","Reports that it was necessary to fight hunger again, without proposing new measures.",{"idx":256,"utterance_id":257,"speaker_name":8,"text":258,"start_s":259,"end_s":260,"word_count":62,"topic_slug":250,"topic_label":251,"target_id":252,"target_proposition":253,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":261,"rationale":262,"indexable":13},36,"68805","The government had to do that again.",243.94,246.36,0.65,"States that the government had to act against hunger; a factual report.",{"idx":264,"utterance_id":265,"speaker_name":8,"text":266,"start_s":267,"end_s":268,"word_count":12,"topic_slug":269,"topic_label":270,"target_id":271,"target_proposition":272,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":274,"indexable":13},37,"68806","So I'd like to know... What is your view regarding this political problem for the election?",247.02,253.96,"estrategia-eleitoral","Electoral Strategy","58a9e8fc-6ebf-42bd-9065-4a4f1e1ecf71","bring government results closer to the electorate",0.6,"asks about a political vision without presenting its own proposal.",{"idx":276,"utterance_id":277,"speaker_name":8,"text":278,"start_s":279,"end_s":280,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":269,"topic_label":270,"target_id":281,"target_proposition":282,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":283,"indexable":13},38,"68807","And how are you seeing the campaign in São Paulo?",254.6,258.04,"c3e138fa-1d30-4ed5-9803-a455b13f842e","conduct the electoral campaign in the State of São Paulo","asks about the conduct of the campaign in São Paulo without expressing an opinion.",{"idx":285,"utterance_id":286,"speaker_name":8,"text":287,"start_s":288,"end_s":289,"word_count":55,"topic_slug":269,"topic_label":270,"target_id":290,"target_proposition":291,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":292,"indexable":13},39,"68808","What will be the main campaign themes?",258.1,260.72,"700f58d2-9734-4abf-98c0-e093674d339d","define the campaign's main platforms","asks what the main platforms will be, without advocating one.",{"idx":294,"utterance_id":295,"speaker_name":8,"text":296,"start_s":297,"end_s":298,"word_count":124,"topic_slug":269,"topic_label":270,"target_id":299,"target_proposition":300,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":301,"indexable":13},40,"68809","Whether there will be a division between you and Marina Silva, former minister Marina Silva, in terms of the issues that will be carried forward?",260.78,269.4,"aa16a0bd-33c1-438c-8adf-d8dbc381dba3","distribute\u002Fcomplement platforms among candidates","questions whether there will be division or complementarity of issues among the candidates.",{"idx":303,"utterance_id":304,"speaker_name":8,"text":305,"start_s":306,"end_s":307,"word_count":12,"topic_slug":308,"topic_label":309,"target_id":310,"target_proposition":311,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":312,"indexable":13},41,"68810","And if there's time, how are you seeing the composition of the entire Senate next year?",269.56,276.16,"processo-eleitoral","Electoral Process","0f0964a7-a209-4523-8e60-6f744fa66021","analyze the Senate's composition for 2026","asks about the composition of the Senate without taking a position.",{"idx":213,"utterance_id":314,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":315,"start_s":316,"end_s":317,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},"68811","Excellent start, Heloísa, it's a pleasure, and Célia, who has always treated me with great affection — the last interview with Chico Pinheiro was great.",276.22,283.44,{"idx":319,"utterance_id":320,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":321,"start_s":322,"end_s":323,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},43,"68812","Very objectively, I think it's a set of things.",285,287.8,{"idx":41,"utterance_id":325,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":326,"start_s":327,"end_s":328,"word_count":86,"topic_slug":329,"topic_label":330,"target_id":331,"target_proposition":332,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":333,"indexable":13},"68813","First, it's a worldwide phenomenon; unfortunately history is cyclical, and lamentably it's leaning toward the danger of a civilizational regression.",287.88,297.9,"democracia-e-participacao-eleitoral","Democracy & Electoral Participation","a5eda412-27e1-4ad0-8a4b-ec3a760609d9","warn about the risk of democratic backsliding","warns about the risk of civilizational backsliding without proposing specific action.",{"idx":335,"utterance_id":336,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":337,"start_s":338,"end_s":339,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},45,"68814","Everyone will understand what I'm saying.",298.18,299.66,{"idx":341,"utterance_id":342,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":343,"start_s":344,"end_s":345,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":346,"topic_label":347,"target_id":348,"target_proposition":349,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":350,"rationale":351,"indexable":150},46,"68815","South America now, in fact, we are the last frontier, the last bulwark to defend humanity as we want it — in every sense, including democracy and sovereignty and everything else that's on the other side.",300.64,315.12,"politica-externa-e-diplomacia","Foreign Policy and Diplomacy","6adeeb45-13d4-45d4-a2df-443f235821fd","defend democracy and sovereignty in South America",0.78,"affirms a regional role in defending democracy and sovereignty in a normative way.",{"idx":353,"utterance_id":354,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":355,"start_s":356,"end_s":357,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},47,"68816","Speaking specifically about Brazil, it's a combination of situations.",316.42,320.02,{"idx":359,"utterance_id":360,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":361,"start_s":362,"end_s":363,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":308,"topic_label":309,"target_id":364,"target_proposition":365,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":366,"indexable":13},48,"68817","Very quickly, I won't... I'll only cite briefly because time doesn't allow, but we came out of an election that was highly pluralized, where there was, in reality, almost a 1% difference.",320.66,330.46,"32a9735a-5aa3-4987-bf46-d99448d92749","recognize the polarization and plurality of the electoral result","describes a very close election and a pluralized society as fact.",{"idx":368,"utterance_id":369,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":370,"start_s":371,"end_s":372,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},49,"68818","We emerged with a society that was fully pluralized, disputing the electoral result, with an attempted coup.",331.26,337.34,{"idx":374,"utterance_id":375,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":376,"start_s":377,"end_s":378,"word_count":379,"topic_slug":380,"topic_label":381,"target_id":382,"target_proposition":383,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":385,"indexable":150},50,"68819","We spent a year having to make the defenses and really give support to the Supreme Federal Tribunal for the role they played regarding the processes and convictions of the coup-plotters; this cost us — it cost time and energy — it was almost two years having to, on one hand, administer and restore the budget, which was not small the liabilities they left, restore public policies like Farmácia Popular and Minha Casa Minha Vida that had no money; we had to reorganize the house, and as President Lula said, this was a time of reconstruction, of sowing; now it will be time to harvest.",337.7,378.1,102,"politica-salarial-e-orcamentaria","Salary and Budget Policy","5add0d9e-545c-4f70-a7c1-7ac16099c855","restore social programs and rebuild the public budget",0.8,"demands budget recomposition and program restoration using 'nós'.",{"idx":387,"utterance_id":388,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":389,"start_s":390,"end_s":391,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},51,"68820","Society already divided, already polarized, and having this back-and-forth, this confrontation, it continued with the same posture in expectation of 2026.",378.5,388.64,{"idx":393,"utterance_id":394,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":395,"start_s":396,"end_s":397,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},52,"68821","Parallel to that, Elisa, there is the issue of communication.",389.32,392.3,{"idx":399,"utterance_id":400,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":401,"start_s":402,"end_s":403,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},53,"68822","yes.",392.44,392.58,{"idx":405,"utterance_id":406,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":407,"start_s":408,"end_s":409,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":233,"topic_label":234,"target_id":410,"target_proposition":411,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":412,"indexable":150},54,"68823","I think that we, as democrats, let our discourse become outdated.",393.5,398.16,"cc29106b-3f65-433f-871d-9d780adbf3cb","resume\u002Fformulate political communication strategies","criticizes an outdated discourse and advocates communicative evolution to engage in dialogue.",{"idx":414,"utterance_id":415,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":416,"start_s":417,"end_s":418,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},55,"68824","We did not have the capacity to evolve, to engage in dialogue.",398.24,401.38,{"idx":420,"utterance_id":421,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":422,"start_s":423,"end_s":424,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},56,"68825","And we did not perceive that a mass of young people was coming — people who did not experience the military dictatorship.",402.26,407.5,{"idx":426,"utterance_id":427,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":428,"start_s":429,"end_s":430,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},57,"68826","Perhaps I am the last generation that experienced that.",407.94,411.16,{"idx":432,"utterance_id":433,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":434,"start_s":435,"end_s":436,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},58,"68827","I went to the Diretas Já demonstrations in the streets; I was 15 years old.",411.54,414.28,{"idx":438,"utterance_id":439,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":440,"start_s":441,"end_s":442,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},59,"68828","But I have that memory very firmly fixed.",414.64,416.46,{"idx":444,"utterance_id":445,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":446,"start_s":447,"end_s":448,"word_count":169,"indexable":13},60,"68829","My colleagues don't, because since I was five years old my father became mayor and was a political and democratic person.",416.84,423.98,{"idx":450,"utterance_id":451,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":452,"start_s":453,"end_s":454,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},61,"68830","So, at ages nine, ten, eleven, I was discussing this.",424.38,427.56,{"idx":456,"utterance_id":457,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":458,"start_s":459,"end_s":460,"word_count":186,"topic_slug":329,"topic_label":330,"target_id":461,"target_proposition":462,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":463,"indexable":13},62,"68831","But we have to think: those under 50 don't understand, beyond the theoretical concept, the importance that without democracy we have nothing.",427.88,435,"3dd5295c-e8bc-4b1b-82c8-3251a73a0dd7","ensure democratic participation and civil rights","argues that without democracy there are no basic freedoms, in a normative tone.",{"idx":465,"utterance_id":466,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":467,"start_s":468,"end_s":469,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":329,"topic_label":330,"target_id":461,"target_proposition":462,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":350,"rationale":470,"indexable":150},63,"68832","Neither the freedom to speak, to come and go, nor the safety for a child of ours to go out to a nightclub, to a party, and return home alive — without being subjected to private imprisonment, without even being able to have a habeas corpus.",435.06,446.5,"lists freedoms (habeas corpus, etc.) as consequences of democracy.",{"idx":472,"utterance_id":473,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":474,"start_s":475,"end_s":476,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},64,"68833","Without access to a lawyer to defend themselves, among many other things.",446.54,449.12,{"idx":478,"utterance_id":479,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":480,"start_s":481,"end_s":482,"word_count":285,"indexable":13},65,"68834","So I think it's a combination of situations, allied with the fact that — and here is our fault in communication — we failed to understand that some segments that moved very far to the right felt somehow forgotten.",449.32,463.5,{"idx":484,"utterance_id":485,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":486,"start_s":487,"end_s":488,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},66,"68835","by the democrats.",464.38,465.18,{"idx":490,"utterance_id":491,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":492,"start_s":493,"end_s":494,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},67,"68836","I always say democrats — I'm referring to the PT, to President Lula's government — but I'm also referring to center-left parties and to center parties as well.",465.24,472.48,{"idx":496,"utterance_id":497,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":498,"start_s":499,"end_s":500,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},68,"68837","So I think it's a mix.",472.82,473.58,{"idx":502,"utterance_id":503,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":504,"start_s":505,"end_s":506,"word_count":62,"topic_slug":233,"topic_label":234,"target_id":507,"target_proposition":508,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":510,"indexable":150},69,"68838","We have to fix it through dialogue.",473.72,475.54,"c4964fe6-134d-4ac6-a569-67cdbc2edc3e","dialogue with estranged voters to regain trust",0.85,"explicitly states 'temos que consertar através do diálogo' as the remedy.",{"idx":512,"utterance_id":513,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":514,"start_s":515,"end_s":516,"word_count":74,"topic_slug":517,"topic_label":518,"target_id":519,"target_proposition":520,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":521,"indexable":150},70,"68839","I'll give one example very quickly: self-employed workers.",475.58,480.28,"relacoes-internacionais-trabalho","International Relations \u002F Labor","7ef92d97-650b-40c7-b78d-eeb8176b6a8b","extend social and labor protection to self-employed workers","explicitly proposes labor and social security guarantees for the self-employed.",{"idx":523,"utterance_id":524,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":525,"start_s":526,"end_s":527,"word_count":12,"topic_slug":517,"topic_label":518,"target_id":519,"target_proposition":520,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":261,"rationale":528,"indexable":13},71,"68840","We were slow to understand what they wanted, what their stance was, and how we could meet",480.36,485.2,"acknowledges delay in understanding demands of the self-employed, a report without a detailed plan.",{"idx":530,"utterance_id":531,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":532,"start_s":533,"end_s":534,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":517,"topic_label":518,"target_id":535,"target_proposition":520,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":536,"indexable":13},72,"68841","the desires of these workers while guaranteeing protection.",485.56,488.62,"cb56d9fc-6d7c-41ea-85bc-909271af8f8d","repeats the need to ensure protection for the self-employed worker.",{"idx":538,"utterance_id":539,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":540,"start_s":541,"end_s":542,"word_count":130,"topic_slug":517,"topic_label":518,"target_id":519,"target_proposition":520,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":543,"indexable":150},73,"68842","Guaranteeing labor protection, guaranteeing protection in old age, guaranteeing protection when they are ill and need access, for example, to the system for sick leave.",489.3,501.16,"lists concrete protections (health, old age) as proposals for self-employed workers.",{"idx":545,"utterance_id":546,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":547,"start_s":548,"end_s":549,"word_count":245,"indexable":13},74,"68843","And the second, I won't dwell on it because otherwise we monopolize the time, but you asked a second question and I would now like to ask if you could repeat it so we can connect.",501.42,512.32,{"idx":551,"utterance_id":552,"speaker_name":8,"text":553,"start_s":554,"end_s":555,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},75,"68844","The composition of the Senate, how will it be?",512.36,514.72,{"idx":557,"utterance_id":558,"speaker_name":8,"text":559,"start_s":560,"end_s":561,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},76,"68845","Of course.",514.76,515.1,{"idx":563,"utterance_id":564,"speaker_name":8,"text":565,"start_s":566,"end_s":567,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},77,"68846","Your campaign, Marina Silva and the composition of the Senate.",517.08,520.24,{"idx":569,"utterance_id":570,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":559,"start_s":571,"end_s":572,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},78,"68847",520.28,520.54,{"idx":574,"utterance_id":575,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":576,"start_s":577,"end_s":578,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},79,"68848","I came to fulfill a mission, Heloísa.",521.66,523.44,{"idx":580,"utterance_id":581,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":582,"start_s":583,"end_s":584,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},80,"68849","There was a very clear request from President Lula.",523.8,526.16,{"idx":586,"utterance_id":587,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":588,"start_s":589,"end_s":590,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},81,"68850","São Paulo is decisive in this election.",526.48,528.3,{"idx":592,"utterance_id":593,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":594,"start_s":595,"end_s":596,"word_count":74,"topic_slug":597,"topic_label":598,"target_id":599,"target_proposition":600,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":601,"indexable":13},82,"68851","Unfortunately, I thought that this polarization with the extreme right would end.",528.4,533.56,"polarizacao-politica-e-divisao-do-pais","Political Polarization","7515ee6f-b469-4db1-a2b3-734fe7ee9836","reduce political polarization and promote national unity","expresses disappointment with the continuation of polarization, without an immediate plan.",{"idx":603,"utterance_id":604,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":605,"start_s":606,"end_s":607,"word_count":114,"indexable":13},83,"68852","We were going to debate with another camp, but that's not what's happening in this election.",533.94,538.68,{"idx":609,"utterance_id":610,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":611,"start_s":612,"end_s":613,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},84,"68853","We already know who our opponent is, the pre-candidate.",538.74,541.38,{"idx":615,"utterance_id":616,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":617,"start_s":618,"end_s":619,"word_count":86,"indexable":13},85,"68854","the son of the ex, whose name I refuse to mention here, and we therefore have to work collectively.",541.62,549.68,{"idx":621,"utterance_id":622,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":623,"start_s":624,"end_s":625,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},86,"68855","It's very clear from today's electoral snapshot that Minas — although important and fundamental — when you win Minas, you win Brazil, as the saying goes.",549.98,561.14,{"idx":627,"utterance_id":628,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":629,"start_s":630,"end_s":631,"word_count":114,"indexable":13},87,"68856","So today, if the election were held now, the decision would be made within the State of São Paulo.",561.7,567.28,{"idx":633,"utterance_id":634,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":635,"start_s":636,"end_s":637,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},88,"68857","A quarter of the electorate, almost 25% of voters, here are the independents who can make the difference, and basically they are young people and women — which is very interesting.",567.58,578.9,{"idx":639,"utterance_id":640,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":641,"start_s":642,"end_s":643,"word_count":644,"topic_slug":269,"topic_label":270,"target_id":645,"target_proposition":646,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":647,"indexable":150},89,"68858","And so the president invited me, together with the vice-president, who is my political godfather from my party Alckmin, saying, \"Look Simone, you have — how crazy — you must change your electoral domicile; you have a base... São Paulo; you've already been in São Paulo for ten years; I have daughters who live here, I own properties here; I did a master's at PUC in São Paulo for two years; I had votes here as a presidential candidate — it was the state that proportionally gave me the most votes, by far, more than anywhere else in Brazil — you have to go to talk with the democratic center, with the right, the right (not the extreme right, which has no dialogue), with the center-right, with the center.\"",579.42,619.76,134,"b77587da-59d9-4f0e-94d8-75fc22818928","dialogue with the center and center-right in the State of São Paulo","says 'tem que ir' to speak with the center and center-right, proposing an explicit strategy.",{"idx":649,"utterance_id":650,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":651,"start_s":652,"end_s":653,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},90,"68859","The rest is up to us; that's their conversation.",620.18,622.26,{"idx":84,"utterance_id":655,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":656,"start_s":657,"end_s":658,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},"68860","You will dialogue with the center-left, with the left, but that electorate already belongs to President Lula.",622.5,626.5,{"idx":660,"utterance_id":661,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":662,"start_s":663,"end_s":664,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},92,"68861","So you come to dialogue, to talk precisely about the importance of this election for 2030.",626.94,632.7,{"idx":666,"utterance_id":667,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":668,"start_s":669,"end_s":670,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},93,"68862","So it was for that project.",632.9,634.02,{"idx":672,"utterance_id":673,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":674,"start_s":675,"end_s":676,"word_count":86,"topic_slug":677,"topic_label":678,"target_id":679,"target_proposition":680,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":681,"indexable":150},94,"68863","So, objectively, Heloísa, there will never be a split with Marina, because that would shift focus to the more important election for the Federal Senate.",634.08,641.76,"aliancas-politicas","Political Alliances","bcfc1b27-382d-46df-8a26-8c237463679b","maintain unity of the Simone and Marina ticket","explicitly declares that 'jamais vai ter divisão' among the candidates.",{"idx":683,"utterance_id":684,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":685,"start_s":686,"end_s":687,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},95,"68864","They may even form a majority, and they will probably form a majority.",642.8,645.74,{"idx":689,"utterance_id":690,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":691,"start_s":692,"end_s":693,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},96,"68865","From what I know, I have experience in the Senate.",646.42,648.4,{"idx":695,"utterance_id":696,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":697,"start_s":698,"end_s":699,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},97,"68866","I served eight years,",648.46,649.66,{"idx":701,"utterance_id":702,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":703,"start_s":704,"end_s":705,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},98,"68867","in the Federal Senate.",650.08,651.12,{"idx":707,"utterance_id":708,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":709,"start_s":710,"end_s":711,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},99,"68868","If it weren't the case, I would not have been the first woman leader of the women's caucus, the first woman to run for the presidency of the Senate to denounce the secret budget.",651.66,659.54,{"idx":713,"utterance_id":714,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":715,"start_s":716,"end_s":717,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},100,"68869","The first leader, the first president of the Commission to Combat Violence against Women.",659.58,663.8,{"idx":719,"utterance_id":720,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":721,"start_s":722,"end_s":723,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},101,"68870","I was the one who was.",664.42,664.94,{"idx":379,"utterance_id":725,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":726,"start_s":727,"end_s":728,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},"68871","Anyway, so I know the Senate.",665.02,666.9,{"idx":730,"utterance_id":731,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":732,"start_s":733,"end_s":734,"word_count":180,"topic_slug":735,"topic_label":736,"target_id":737,"target_proposition":738,"stance":739,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":740,"indexable":150},103,"68872","They will form a majority, but they cannot form an absolute majority to have a quorum to change the Federal Constitution, because then they would finish off democracy.",666.98,676.88,"processo-legislativo","Legislative Process","d7ce21c2-e4a1-463e-b911-c7c233007c56","amend the Constitution through constitutional amendments (PECs)","contra","alerts that an absolute majority would try to change the Constitution and criticizes that possibility.",{"idx":742,"utterance_id":743,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":744,"start_s":745,"end_s":746,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":735,"topic_label":736,"target_id":737,"target_proposition":738,"stance":739,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":747,"indexable":150},104,"68873","They recompose... The size of the Supreme Federal Tribunal, put the Supreme Federal Tribunal on a leash, end the Supreme Court's independence to judge, including the decisions, the acts, for example, of a president of the Senate or a president of the Republic, aside from all the civilizational setbacks.",677.28,693.3,"denounces the risk of 'colocar o STF na coleira' as an objective of constitutional change.",{"idx":749,"utterance_id":750,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":751,"start_s":752,"end_s":753,"word_count":92,"topic_slug":754,"topic_label":755,"target_id":756,"target_proposition":757,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":758,"indexable":150},105,"68874","On the women's agenda, on the agenda... therefore, on the minority agendas, on the humanitarian agenda.",693.64,699,"direitos-das-minorias","Minority Rights","60973d34-d2bd-402c-be36-b3aff2bc1826","protect minority rights and gender agendas","warns that backsliding would affect women's and minority issues, advocating protection.",{"idx":760,"utterance_id":761,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":762,"start_s":763,"end_s":764,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":677,"topic_label":678,"target_id":679,"target_proposition":680,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":765,"indexable":150},106,"68875","So, the role of the Senate is so relevant, not for me, for Marina, nor for us, but for our children, there will be no division on this ticket Marina and Simone.",699.44,710.14,"reiterates there will be no division and prioritizes the collective over individual candidacies.",{"idx":767,"utterance_id":768,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":769,"start_s":770,"end_s":771,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},107,"68876","Our opponents are on the other side.",710.48,712.56,{"idx":773,"utterance_id":774,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":775,"start_s":776,"end_s":777,"word_count":341,"topic_slug":735,"topic_label":736,"target_id":737,"target_proposition":738,"stance":739,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":778,"indexable":150},108,"68877","More important than my candidacy or my future... victory, and more important than Marina's, is for the collective to get there with strength to numerically prevent them from doing whatever they want with the Federal Constitution and, consequently, with Brazil.",713.04,729.32,"calls to form a majority to prevent constitutional changes that threaten democracy.",{"idx":780,"utterance_id":781,"speaker_name":8,"text":782,"start_s":783,"end_s":784,"word_count":142,"indexable":13},109,"68878","Just to clarify, I didn't mean division, I meant whether there will be a distribution of themes, not in the sense of competition, but of complementarity, her taking some banners and you others.",729.86,740.58,{"idx":786,"utterance_id":787,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":788,"start_s":789,"end_s":790,"word_count":180,"indexable":13},110,"68879","Your remark is very interesting; Marina said a sentence, she said, \"we are the face of diversity, who has the capacity to rent, Simone.\"",741.14,748.78,{"idx":792,"utterance_id":793,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":794,"start_s":795,"end_s":796,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},111,"68880","Her words, okay?",748.94,749.84,{"idx":798,"utterance_id":799,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":800,"start_s":801,"end_s":802,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},112,"68881","I am a Black woman, you are a white woman.",750.32,752.58,{"idx":804,"utterance_id":805,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":806,"start_s":807,"end_s":808,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},113,"68882","I am an environmentalist woman, you are a woman of agribusiness for good.",752.66,758.02,{"idx":810,"utterance_id":811,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":812,"start_s":813,"end_s":814,"word_count":627,"topic_slug":815,"topic_label":816,"target_id":817,"target_proposition":818,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":819,"indexable":150},114,"68883","I was born with the adversity of poverty, you were born in a 'peço' that did not allow you to go hungry, that you had the means to... So, she put... And we have... And she praised, because I have always allocated resources in the budget, on the environmental agenda, and I defend the environmental agenda within agribusiness, so much so that part of agribusiness does not like me, but it is not the large agribusiness, it is the agribusiness that I call land-grabbers, land invaders in the Amazon, throughout the whole Mato Piba region that try there.",759.62,792,"agricultura-e-agronegocio","Agriculture & Agribusiness","8d6da1e0-c485-4fdf-9a17-187ec13171b1","promote sustainable agribusiness practices and protect the Amazon","explicitly states she supports an environmental agenda within agribusiness.",{"idx":821,"utterance_id":822,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":823,"start_s":824,"end_s":825,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},115,"68884","to reduce the arc of the Legal Amazon, but anyway, she dropped the hint.",792.64,796.98,{"idx":827,"utterance_id":828,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":829,"start_s":830,"end_s":831,"word_count":169,"topic_slug":832,"topic_label":833,"target_id":834,"target_proposition":835,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":836,"indexable":150},116,"68885","She said, look how different people can sit at a table, because what unites us is infinitely greater than what separates us.",797.32,803.42,"democracia-e-representacao","Democracy and Representation","382c4828-6c96-4e72-8a6e-c56a7aa1e40a","defend diversity and inclusion in political representation","praises diversity among the candidates and calls for unity because of that plurality.",{"idx":838,"utterance_id":839,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":840,"start_s":841,"end_s":842,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},117,"68886","We are Christians, she also said, you are Catholic, I am evangelical.",804.24,808.18,{"idx":844,"utterance_id":845,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":846,"start_s":847,"end_s":848,"word_count":319,"indexable":13},118,"68887","That's it, I think we are the face of Brazil's diversity that needs to be united to defend our families, our children, the country we want, not only for the next four years, but for the next 25 years.",808.62,823.32,{"idx":850,"utterance_id":851,"speaker_name":8,"text":199,"start_s":852,"end_s":853,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},119,"68888",825.18,825.58,{"idx":855,"utterance_id":856,"speaker_name":8,"text":165,"start_s":857,"end_s":858,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},120,"68889",825.62,829.64,{"idx":860,"utterance_id":861,"speaker_name":8,"text":862,"start_s":863,"end_s":864,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},121,"68890","Eloísa Vilela, thank you very much.",829.68,831.46,{"idx":866,"utterance_id":867,"speaker_name":8,"text":868,"start_s":869,"end_s":870,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},122,"68891","I know you have a commitment at 5:30 p.m., you have to go live.",831.7,836.04,{"idx":872,"utterance_id":873,"speaker_name":8,"text":874,"start_s":875,"end_s":876,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},123,"68892","Feel free to follow along and leave whenever you think it's appropriate, okay?",836.34,840.96,{"idx":878,"utterance_id":879,"speaker_name":8,"text":880,"start_s":881,"end_s":882,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},124,"68893","And I would now like to call our next interviewer, who is Eleonora, who is also accompanied by Rodolfo Lucena, from Tutameia.",841.94,850.84,{"idx":884,"utterance_id":885,"speaker_name":8,"text":886,"start_s":887,"end_s":888,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},125,"68894","Welcome, actually.",851.6,853.4,{"idx":890,"utterance_id":891,"speaker_name":8,"text":892,"start_s":893,"end_s":894,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},126,"68895","Feel free, the floor is yours, Eleonora.",853.46,856.08,{"idx":896,"utterance_id":897,"speaker_name":8,"text":898,"start_s":899,"end_s":900,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},127,"68896","Thank you very much, Samira.",856.38,857.76,{"idx":902,"utterance_id":903,"speaker_name":8,"text":904,"start_s":905,"end_s":906,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},128,"68897","Here, Rodolfo and I, Dudu as well, we are very grateful for the invitation to participate in this interview.",858.42,865.86,{"idx":908,"utterance_id":909,"speaker_name":8,"text":910,"start_s":911,"end_s":912,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},129,"68898","I send a greeting first to Minister Simone Tebet.",866.3,870.48,{"idx":914,"utterance_id":915,"speaker_name":8,"text":916,"start_s":917,"end_s":918,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},130,"68899","It's very good to be here and have this conversation.",870.58,874.22,{"idx":920,"utterance_id":921,"speaker_name":8,"text":922,"start_s":923,"end_s":924,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},131,"68900","Minister, I'm going to the question then.",874.76,877.28,{"idx":926,"utterance_id":927,"speaker_name":8,"text":928,"start_s":929,"end_s":930,"word_count":192,"topic_slug":346,"topic_label":347,"target_id":931,"target_proposition":932,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":933,"indexable":13},132,"68901","We are living in this 2026 election a unprecedented attack by the United States against Brazil, which has already been going on for more than a year in the economic area,",877.32,888.06,"d5a4a314-caf9-4259-a73d-9d0e07a0ee54","respond to economic and political measures from the United States","claims there is a U.S. economic attack without proposing concrete action in the question.",{"idx":935,"utterance_id":936,"speaker_name":8,"text":937,"start_s":938,"end_s":939,"word_count":213,"topic_slug":346,"topic_label":347,"target_id":931,"target_proposition":932,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":261,"rationale":940,"indexable":13},133,"68902","but which also expresses itself in many other areas, threats of intervention, political threats, it is a confrontation, it is a threat, it is an intention of intervention in the Brazilian election in an explicit way, as has never happened in the relationship between the United States and Brazil.",888.16,910.32,"broadens the complaint to threats of intervention and confrontations, in a descriptive tone.",{"idx":644,"utterance_id":942,"speaker_name":8,"text":943,"start_s":944,"end_s":945,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},"68903","this condition, this circumstance that causes so much apprehension here for Brazilians.",912.78,919.7,{"idx":947,"utterance_id":948,"speaker_name":8,"text":949,"start_s":950,"end_s":951,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},135,"68904","How do you see this circumstance interfering in the elections?",920.26,924.8,{"idx":953,"utterance_id":954,"speaker_name":8,"text":955,"start_s":956,"end_s":957,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":346,"topic_label":347,"target_id":958,"target_proposition":959,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":960,"indexable":13},136,"68905","How can Brazil act to halt Donald Trump's interference in the elections?",924.86,932.28,"ae8dc37f-a421-4605-af34-a86abda2c74a","prevent external interference in Brazilian elections","asks how Brazil can stop interference from Donald Trump, without proposing any measure.",{"idx":962,"utterance_id":963,"speaker_name":8,"text":964,"start_s":965,"end_s":966,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},137,"68906","And how does this reflect on the front that President Lula has been forming since the 1922 elections?",932.6,939.6,{"idx":968,"utterance_id":969,"speaker_name":8,"text":970,"start_s":971,"end_s":972,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},138,"68907","Did you take part in this movement that went beyond, so to speak, the more center-left field?",940.18,948.58,{"idx":974,"utterance_id":975,"speaker_name":8,"text":976,"start_s":977,"end_s":978,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},139,"68908","How will this front now act?",949.48,952.24,{"idx":980,"utterance_id":981,"speaker_name":8,"text":982,"start_s":983,"end_s":984,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},140,"68909","You defined yourself a little while ago as, in quotation marks, a representative of agribusiness for good.",952.78,960.76,{"idx":986,"utterance_id":987,"speaker_name":8,"text":988,"start_s":989,"end_s":990,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},141,"68910","How do you see agribusiness getting involved in President Lula's campaign, will it support President Lula?",961.3,971.9,{"idx":992,"utterance_id":993,"speaker_name":8,"text":994,"start_s":995,"end_s":996,"word_count":538,"indexable":13},142,"68911","This moment of attack by the United States on Brazil, does it... strengthen or fortify this alliance, agribusiness is often identified with external interests, even because of the market issue, foreign trade, how should agribusiness define itself in this election, will it stay with national interests, will part stay with external interests, how does the issue of sovereignty affect this year's election and how will agribusiness... act.",972.98,1008.5,{"idx":998,"utterance_id":999,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1000,"start_s":1001,"end_s":1002,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},143,"68912","Thank you, Leonora, Rodolfo, it's a pleasure.",1010.1,1012.4,{"idx":1004,"utterance_id":1005,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1006,"start_s":1007,"end_s":1008,"word_count":245,"indexable":13},144,"68913","Your question is wonderful, it has several layers, several nuances, I will be very objective here, because I think it is a question that has an absolutely positive and favorable answer for our camp.",1012.98,1024.36,{"idx":1010,"utterance_id":1011,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1012,"start_s":1013,"end_s":1014,"word_count":208,"topic_slug":1015,"topic_label":1016,"target_id":1017,"target_proposition":1018,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":1019,"indexable":150},145,"68914","First to say that it started with a tariff, a tariff that we must always remember was encouraged, and there is evidence, documents and statements on social networks by the family.",1025.58,1037.36,"corrupcao-e-soberania-nacional","Corruption and National Sovereignty","144c6e14-4756-4d55-8216-fb487ef0aa9a","investigate and hold accountable acts of interference and electoral crimes","Classifies acts as criminal and calls for accountability, citing evidence.",{"idx":1021,"utterance_id":1022,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1023,"start_s":1024,"end_s":1025,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},146,"68915","If not by all of them, at least by one or two.",1038.22,1041.72,{"idx":1027,"utterance_id":1028,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1029,"start_s":1030,"end_s":1031,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},147,"68916","A tariff in which we had to work hard to remove at least most of it.",1042.14,1049.58,{"idx":1033,"utterance_id":1034,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1035,"start_s":1036,"end_s":1037,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},148,"68917","And what we see on the part of that family are true criminal acts.",1049.96,1053.88,{"idx":1039,"utterance_id":1040,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1041,"start_s":1042,"end_s":1043,"word_count":12,"topic_slug":1015,"topic_label":1016,"target_id":1017,"target_proposition":1018,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":1044,"indexable":150},149,"68918","We are talking about attitudes that are criminal, that are in the Penal Code, that violate the Federal Constitution.",1053.92,1060.36,"States that the cited attitudes are 'criminosas', calling for accountability.",{"idx":1046,"utterance_id":1047,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1048,"start_s":1049,"end_s":1050,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},150,"68919","It is a crime of lèse-patrie.",1060.4,1061.98,{"idx":1052,"utterance_id":1053,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1054,"start_s":1055,"end_s":1056,"word_count":107,"topic_slug":1015,"topic_label":1016,"target_id":1017,"target_proposition":1018,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":1057,"indexable":150},151,"68920","To advocate against your country while being a public authority is a crime of lèse-patrie.",1062.66,1067,"Says that advocating against the country on behalf of an authority is 'crime de lesa pátria' and condemns it.",{"idx":1059,"utterance_id":1060,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1061,"start_s":1062,"end_s":1063,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},152,"68921","It is not a patriotic act, it is an unpatriotic act.",1067.42,1070.4,{"idx":1065,"utterance_id":1066,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1067,"start_s":1068,"end_s":1069,"word_count":484,"indexable":13},153,"68922","By the way... We are talking about someone who talks God, homeland and family, their God is always money, there are the scandals of mansion and rachadinha, which are all about to be denounced, and audio requesting, calling the criminal my brother, and asking for 130 million, which became 21 million for a film that we don't even know how it was used.",1070.46,1089.64,{"idx":1071,"utterance_id":1072,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1073,"start_s":1074,"end_s":1075,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},154,"68923","Their homeland is not ours, it is foreign, our flag will never be foreign.",1090.44,1096.92,{"idx":1077,"utterance_id":1078,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1079,"start_s":1080,"end_s":1081,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},155,"68924","and their family, the family is not the Brazilian family, it is the family itself, the defense of their own family.",1097.96,1104.2,{"idx":1083,"utterance_id":1084,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1085,"start_s":1086,"end_s":1087,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},156,"68925","That, on the one hand, weighed heavily on the American decisions, the data is there, we must face the consequences.",1104.78,1110.2,{"idx":1089,"utterance_id":1090,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1091,"start_s":1092,"end_s":1093,"word_count":538,"topic_slug":346,"topic_label":347,"target_id":1094,"target_proposition":1095,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1096,"rationale":1097,"indexable":150},157,"68926","Linking this to the campaign, and here two observations, we have a difference compared to other countries, listen up and respect Brazil, United States, this is not a... This is nobody's backyard and we are not a country of 10, 15, 20 million people, we are a country of 210 million Brazilians, we are a sovereign country, we are the greatest power of America.",1110.94,1134.44,"42ab25a5-15ef-44a2-95b2-48687102a75a","defend national wealth and sovereignty",0.82,"Says 'aqui não é quintal de ninguém' and defends Brazilian sovereignty.",{"idx":1099,"utterance_id":1100,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1101,"start_s":1102,"end_s":1103,"word_count":124,"topic_slug":308,"topic_label":309,"target_id":1104,"target_proposition":1105,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":1106,"indexable":150},158,"68927","practically here of Latin America, we have a consolidated democracy, we have solid institutions, they proved it recently, and our ballots are electronic.",1134.96,1144.96,"24191fe3-cf76-449d-82c2-db9693c24226","guarantee the use of electronic voting machines","Declares confidence in TSE (Superior Electoral Court) and in electronic voting machines as electoral guarantees.",{"idx":1108,"utterance_id":1109,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1110,"start_s":1111,"end_s":1112,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},159,"68928","So, in terms of any attempt to violate or manipulate results, I have no concern about that.",1145.3,1153.14,{"idx":1114,"utterance_id":1115,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1116,"start_s":1117,"end_s":1118,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},160,"68929","That I trust the justice system, the TSE and the electronic ballot boxes, there's no way.",1153.84,1157.82,{"idx":1120,"utterance_id":1121,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1122,"start_s":1123,"end_s":1124,"word_count":186,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1127,"target_proposition":1128,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":1129,"indexable":13},161,"68930","And perhaps the big impact, but this is already happening, it's not new, we are already feeling it, is with the algorithms of social networks.",1158.36,1167.28,"regulacao-do-ambiente-digital","Digital environment regulation","6efe2797-75fd-4ed3-8b5f-203c638f441d","monitor the impact of algorithms on elections","Identifies algorithms as the main impact without detailing concrete measures.",{"idx":1131,"utterance_id":1132,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1133,"start_s":1134,"end_s":1135,"word_count":69,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1136,"target_proposition":1137,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":1138,"indexable":150},162,"68931","This is the confrontation we will have to take on afterwards.",1167.6,1169.62,"ea28c70f-ca03-4734-918d-923ec4dc1295","ensure processing of bills that regulate social media","States that this confrontation will be carried out and must be faced by the Senate.",{"idx":1140,"utterance_id":1141,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1142,"start_s":1143,"end_s":1144,"word_count":12,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1136,"target_proposition":1137,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1145,"rationale":1146,"indexable":150},163,"68932","Whoever wins the election for the Senate will have to face the issue of social network regulation.",1170.34,1175,0.87,"Says whoever wins the Senate will have to face regulation of social networks.",{"idx":1148,"utterance_id":1149,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1150,"start_s":1151,"end_s":1152,"word_count":92,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1153,"target_proposition":1154,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1156,"indexable":150},164,"68933","We are not talking about taking away anyone's right and freedom of expression.",1175.36,1178.34,"ede369c7-6888-4409-8717-7563396d5932","guarantee freedom of expression on social networks and not adopt a foreign censorship model",0.75,"Clarifies that regulation does not mean taking away freedom of expression.",{"idx":1158,"utterance_id":1159,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1160,"start_s":1161,"end_s":1162,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1163,"target_proposition":1164,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":1165,"indexable":150},165,"68934","We are saying the following, what I can in the real world... I can in the virtual world.",1178.74,1182.76,"a64f3c82-8dbf-4f77-a3b7-ccd71239ffd3","apply criminal law to illicit conduct on social networks","Argues that real-world crimes should also be crimes in the virtual world.",{"idx":1167,"utterance_id":1168,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1169,"start_s":1170,"end_s":1171,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1163,"target_proposition":1164,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":1172,"indexable":150},166,"68935","If it is a crime in the real world, it is a crime in the virtual world.",1182.9,1185.66,"Explicitly asserts the equivalence between real-world crime and virtual crime.",{"idx":1174,"utterance_id":1175,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1176,"start_s":1177,"end_s":1178,"word_count":74,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1163,"target_proposition":1164,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":1179,"indexable":150},167,"68936","If it is the crime of slander, defamation, insult, I cannot slander, defame, insult.",1186.04,1190.1,"Lists slander, defamation, and insult as acts that should be punished online.",{"idx":1181,"utterance_id":1182,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1183,"start_s":1184,"end_s":1185,"word_count":114,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1163,"target_proposition":1164,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":1186,"indexable":150},168,"68937","If pedophilia is a crime in day-to-day life, pedophilia is a crime on social networks.",1190.48,1195.6,"States that crimes like pedophilia are crimes on social networks as well.",{"idx":1188,"utterance_id":1189,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1190,"start_s":1191,"end_s":1192,"word_count":107,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1163,"target_proposition":1164,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":1193,"indexable":150},169,"68938","If it is a crime to speak, to try, with misogyny, anyway, with racial discrimination,",1195.92,1204.5,"Includes misogyny and racial discrimination among illicit online behaviors to be punished.",{"idx":1195,"utterance_id":1196,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1197,"start_s":1198,"end_s":1199,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},170,"68939","etc.,",1204.6,1204.8,{"idx":1201,"utterance_id":1202,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1203,"start_s":1204,"end_s":1205,"word_count":74,"topic_slug":1206,"topic_label":1207,"target_id":1208,"target_proposition":1209,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":1210,"indexable":150},171,"68940","or by sexual orientation in real life, it is also in virtual life.",1205.6,1209.1,"direitos-lgbtq-e-identidade-de-genero","LGBTQ+ Rights and Gender Identity","649e5a16-64d9-4d55-a04d-b52555e2b8fc","regulate protection against discrimination based on sexual orientation on digital platforms","States that discrimination based on sexual orientation also exists online, implying regulation.",{"idx":1212,"utterance_id":1213,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1214,"start_s":1215,"end_s":1216,"word_count":169,"topic_slug":1125,"topic_label":1126,"target_id":1217,"target_proposition":1218,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":1219,"indexable":150},172,"68941","So, this is the regulation that we have to make, but today I believe that the algorithms, regrettably, are already working in their favor.",1209.5,1216.2,"d59fd00c-af99-4932-8f35-7367b85e2edc","regulate algorithms and content on digital platforms","Explicitly says 'essa é a regulamentação que nós temos que fazer' regarding algorithms.",{"idx":1221,"utterance_id":1222,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1223,"start_s":1224,"end_s":1225,"word_count":285,"topic_slug":1226,"topic_label":1227,"target_id":1228,"target_proposition":1229,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":350,"rationale":1230,"indexable":150},173,"68942","So, I don't know to what extent... in these next 45 days after the convention, this can have an impact from the forces of the big techs that are not already happening, for that there is the TSE and we will be very attentive.",1216.48,1230.38,"sistema-eleitoral-e-voto-impresso-integridade-do-processo","Electoral System & Paper Ballot","0da13a76-f01a-4208-889a-e9d1a4851556","regulate and oversee big techs' actions in elections","Mentions TSE (Superior Electoral Court) and oversight of big techs in the 45 days after the convention.",{"idx":1232,"utterance_id":1233,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1234,"start_s":1235,"end_s":1236,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},174,"68943","Now, for the good side, sorry for the long answer, because it's salutary, I think your questions, as always, very brilliant, I think now it's on the positive side for us.",1230.68,1242.32,{"idx":1238,"utterance_id":1239,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1240,"start_s":1241,"end_s":1242,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},175,"68944","It was a real shot in the foot.",1242.88,1244.08,{"idx":1244,"utterance_id":1245,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1246,"start_s":1247,"end_s":1248,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},176,"68945","Do you know why?",1244.7,1245.14,{"idx":1250,"utterance_id":1251,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1252,"start_s":1253,"end_s":1254,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},177,"68946","With all due respect or no respect, they are so stupid, so stupid, so stupid, that they can't even do evil well done.",1245.54,1252.36,{"idx":1256,"utterance_id":1257,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1258,"start_s":1259,"end_s":1260,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},178,"68947","They leave it digital.",1252.84,1253.82,{"idx":1262,"utterance_id":1263,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1264,"start_s":1265,"end_s":1266,"word_count":12,"topic_slug":1267,"topic_label":1268,"target_id":1269,"target_proposition":1270,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":1271,"indexable":150},179,"68948","They leave the digital trace when they call for forcing the biggest financial system corruption scandal in Brazil's history.",1254.34,1261.24,"combate-a-impunidade","Combating Impunity","840156e0-cda2-4798-bb99-e7eba875f67f","investigate and punish corruption and recover public funds","Links a document\u002Fact to a financial scandal and criticizes the conduct as serious.",{"idx":1273,"utterance_id":1274,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1275,"start_s":1276,"end_s":1277,"word_count":36,"topic_slug":1267,"topic_label":1268,"target_id":1269,"target_proposition":1270,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1278,"indexable":13},180,"68949","130 million reais.",1261.26,1263.12,"Reports an amount ('130 milhões de reais') about the scandal — factual report.",{"idx":1280,"utterance_id":1281,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1282,"start_s":1283,"end_s":1284,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":1267,"topic_label":1268,"target_id":1269,"target_proposition":1270,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1285,"indexable":150},181,"68950","The guy was already accused with the candidate's voice on the recording.",1263.2,1266.64,"Reports that the accused had already been charged — factual description.",{"idx":1287,"utterance_id":1288,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1289,"start_s":1290,"end_s":1291,"word_count":359,"topic_slug":1292,"topic_label":1293,"target_id":1294,"target_proposition":1295,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":1296,"indexable":150},182,"68951","And they send a document saying, handing Brazil over before winning the election, which they will not win, but before winning the election, saying, look, if you want, I want you to see who are the people you want to put on the transition team of my government.",1267.08,1282.48,"soberania-nacional","National Sovereignty","525eb2ae-0581-40ae-a1f5-c5a8e9043260","preserve national sovereignty and protect decisions regarding natural resources","Criticizes handing over assets and explicitly says 'Nós não estamos entregando só a soberania'.",{"idx":1298,"utterance_id":1299,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1300,"start_s":1301,"end_s":1302,"word_count":69,"topic_slug":1292,"topic_label":1293,"target_id":1294,"target_proposition":1295,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":1303,"indexable":150},183,"68952","We are not only handing over the country's sovereignty.",1283.94,1286.06,"Reaffirms that the country must not 'entregar a soberania'.",{"idx":1305,"utterance_id":1306,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1307,"start_s":1308,"end_s":1309,"word_count":393,"topic_slug":1292,"topic_label":1293,"target_id":1294,"target_proposition":1295,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":1310,"indexable":150},184,"68953","What they are saying is the following, I will hand over the minerals, I will hand over the fallow lands, I will hand over the energy transition, I will hand over to you the new judicial system, I will hand over to you and to the big techs, I will hand over to foreign banks.",1286.1,1302.68,"Lists minerals, land, and the energy transition as elements not to give away.",{"idx":1312,"utterance_id":1313,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1314,"start_s":1315,"end_s":1316,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},185,"68954","And they left the digital trace in a document.",1304.04,1305.94,{"idx":1318,"utterance_id":1319,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1320,"start_s":1321,"end_s":1322,"word_count":36,"topic_slug":1267,"topic_label":1268,"target_id":1269,"target_proposition":1270,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":1323,"indexable":13},186,"68955","This is also a crime.",1306.62,1307.74,"Direct statement 'isso também é crime' against the described conduct.",{"idx":1325,"utterance_id":1326,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1327,"start_s":1328,"end_s":1329,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":1292,"topic_label":1293,"target_id":1294,"target_proposition":1295,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":1330,"indexable":150},187,"68956","And this, if it's one thing... I believe they cannot even convince, within the extreme right, and now finishing with the agro question, those who are Bolsonaro supporters but are not extreme-right as other principles, that we would be better off without sovereignty.",1307.88,1327.08,"Counters the argument that the country would be better off without sovereignty.",{"idx":1332,"utterance_id":1333,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1334,"start_s":1335,"end_s":1336,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":1292,"topic_label":1293,"target_id":1294,"target_proposition":1295,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":1337,"indexable":13},188,"68957","Sovereignty is very expensive for the right and for agribusiness.",1327.44,1330.22,"States the political cost of sovereignty for the right-wing\u002Fagribusiness without a direct proposal.",{"idx":1339,"utterance_id":1340,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1341,"start_s":1342,"end_s":1343,"word_count":114,"indexable":13},189,"68958","And agribusiness, what is the big problem of agribusiness with President Lula's government?",1330.58,1337.54,{"idx":1345,"utterance_id":1346,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1347,"start_s":1348,"end_s":1349,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},190,"68959","Mainly with... In the past, not now.",1337.84,1340.42,{"idx":1351,"utterance_id":1352,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1353,"start_s":1354,"end_s":1355,"word_count":319,"indexable":13},191,"68960","It has nothing to do with financing, it has nothing to do with the harvest plan, it has nothing to do with rural insurance, which in every government they will complain about and the government gives what it can, whether a right-wing or left-wing government.",1340.8,1351.12,{"idx":1357,"utterance_id":1358,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1359,"start_s":1360,"end_s":1361,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},192,"68961","The great reality in the past, and this is no longer the case, and this is my role, to clarify this sector.",1351.88,1357.48,{"idx":1363,"utterance_id":1364,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1365,"start_s":1366,"end_s":1367,"word_count":294,"topic_slug":1368,"topic_label":1369,"target_id":1370,"target_proposition":1371,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":1372,"indexable":150},193,"68962","that President Lula's government respects property rights, that when he talks about agrarian reform, about family farming, which is who puts food on the Brazilian people's table, he does so by expropriating, conversing, dialoguing and paying a fair price.",1358.38,1371.4,"politica-agricola","Agricultural Policy","df4b4b6e-b3a1-427c-986f-7ce98db48b4a","implement ecological, collective agrarian reform with rural technical assistance","Explicitly defends expropriation with dialogue and payment of a fair price.",{"idx":1374,"utterance_id":1375,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1376,"start_s":1377,"end_s":1378,"word_count":180,"topic_slug":815,"topic_label":816,"target_id":1379,"target_proposition":1380,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":1381,"indexable":150},194,"68963","So now you can have a government that can deal and must deal with family farming, with agrarian reform and with agribusiness.",1372.08,1381.58,"8a580b79-0283-45fb-bb96-d7ac6c1c3cee","reconcile policies for family farming, agrarian reform and agribusiness","Says a government must address family farming, agrarian reform, and agribusiness.",{"idx":1383,"utterance_id":1384,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1385,"start_s":1386,"end_s":1387,"word_count":609,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":1390,"target_proposition":1391,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":1392,"indexable":150},195,"68964","And more... I went to China more than once in government, in the ministry, I think I went three times, or four, I don't remember anymore, and always together with the Minister of Agriculture and Livestock from Mapa, Fávaro, the former minister Fávaro, today agro knows that one third, a little more than one third of all, 40% of all agricultural exports go to China, a bit more of that to Asia, it is our great trading partner.",1382,1407.36,"diplomacia-economica-e-negociacoes-de-alto-nivel","Economic Diplomacy and Negotiations","b339aafa-039a-441d-9ac4-d437606cd5f0","strengthen bilateral trade and investment","Reports trips and states that dialogue with China is decisive to open markets.",{"idx":1394,"utterance_id":1395,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1396,"start_s":1397,"end_s":1398,"word_count":142,"topic_slug":1388,"topic_label":1389,"target_id":1390,"target_proposition":1391,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":1399,"indexable":150},196,"68965","So this relationship with China is very strong and they know that President Lula's dialogue with China is decisive to open markets in Asia for Brazilian agribusiness products.",1408.26,1423.16,"Reaffirms that the president's dialogue with China favors agribusiness exports.",{"idx":1401,"utterance_id":1402,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1403,"start_s":1404,"end_s":1405,"word_count":502,"topic_slug":815,"topic_label":816,"target_id":1406,"target_proposition":1407,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1408,"indexable":150},197,"68966","So I think this clarification is... And my role in doing that, it was for that reason President Lula invited me, it is fundamental for us to bring especially the agroindustry, the medium-sized ones, and show them that the other side is imposing tariffs on your products, wanted to tariff, wanted you to tariff, that the United States tariff your orange, your coffee, your pulp, your meat.",1423.22,1445.76,"4996247b-637d-4fdd-afa4-208d4b62db17","expand access of Brazilian agricultural products to Asian markets","Explains the need to clarify and negotiate tariffs that affect exports",{"idx":1410,"utterance_id":1411,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1412,"start_s":1413,"end_s":1414,"word_count":294,"topic_slug":815,"topic_label":816,"target_id":1406,"target_proposition":1407,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":261,"rationale":1415,"indexable":13},198,"68967","Who removed... part of those tariffs and who dialogues and favors agribusiness to be a productive sector is President Lula's government, with one more detail, I know I'm monopolizing, but it's just a minute, okay?",1446.38,1458.18,"Attributes to the Lula government a dialogue that would have removed part of the tariffs — positive report",{"idx":1417,"utterance_id":1418,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1419,"start_s":1420,"end_s":1421,"word_count":192,"indexable":13},199,"68968","Today, for the majority of agribusiness, the biggest cost is production fertilizers, almost 40% and it goes to, I'm talking about family farming too, not all, okay?",1458.88,1469.1,{"idx":1423,"utterance_id":1424,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1425,"start_s":1426,"end_s":1427,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},200,"68969","I'm not necessarily talking about cassava; I might be talking about okra, anyway.",1469.14,1472.98,{"idx":1429,"utterance_id":1430,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1431,"start_s":1432,"end_s":1433,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},201,"68970","I basically depend on fertilizers.",1474.28,1476.28,{"idx":1435,"utterance_id":1436,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1437,"start_s":1438,"end_s":1439,"word_count":74,"topic_slug":1440,"topic_label":1441,"target_id":1442,"target_proposition":1443,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1444,"indexable":150},202,"68971","Brazil, in recent years, stopped investing in fertilizer production.",1476.64,1480.82,"politica-industrial-protecionismo-e-competitividade","Industrial policy & competitiveness","3cd62b1c-e444-48de-a69e-d086d1738731","implement a national fertilizer production and investment policy in Brazil","States that the country stopped investing and now needs a national fertilizer policy",{"idx":1446,"utterance_id":1447,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1448,"start_s":1449,"end_s":1450,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":1440,"topic_label":1441,"target_id":1451,"target_proposition":1443,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1452,"indexable":150},203,"68972","Today we only produce 20% of everything we consume.",1480.86,1483.24,"04d2e654-c957-4a1e-9b00-a46612580100","States that Brazil produces only about 20% of fertilizer consumption",{"idx":1454,"utterance_id":1455,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1456,"start_s":1457,"end_s":1458,"word_count":114,"topic_slug":1440,"topic_label":1441,"target_id":1442,"target_proposition":1443,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1459,"indexable":150},204,"68973","Today we buy in dollars from a region that is at war: Russia and Ukraine.",1484.06,1488.3,"Reports dependence on imports from a conflict region (Russia\u002FUkraine)",{"idx":1461,"utterance_id":1462,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1463,"start_s":1464,"end_s":1465,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},205,"68974","80% comes from there.",1488.32,1489.6,{"idx":1467,"utterance_id":1468,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1469,"start_s":1470,"end_s":1471,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":1368,"topic_label":1369,"target_id":1442,"target_proposition":1443,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1472,"rationale":1473,"indexable":13},206,"68975","The price of fertilizer went up, production costs increased, which is why food prices are so high.",1490.18,1495.38,0.72,"Attributes the rise in food prices to the increase in fertilizer prices (causal)",{"idx":1475,"utterance_id":1476,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1477,"start_s":1478,"end_s":1479,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},207,"68976","What are President Lula and the government doing about this?",1495.42,1497.52,{"idx":1481,"utterance_id":1482,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1483,"start_s":1484,"end_s":1485,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":1440,"topic_label":1441,"target_id":1442,"target_proposition":1443,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":1486,"indexable":13},208,"68977","A national policy to produce and invest in fertilizers in Brazil.",1497.78,1502.2,"Lists the national policy of production and investment in fertilizers as a government action",{"idx":1488,"utterance_id":1489,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1490,"start_s":1491,"end_s":1492,"word_count":62,"topic_slug":815,"topic_label":816,"target_id":1493,"target_proposition":1494,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":1495,"indexable":13},209,"68978","It fits the agribusiness perfectly.",1503.64,1506.36,"fbcc03b7-26e8-4b0a-a487-d8dfe147f606","increase national fertilizer production for agriculture","Declares that the policy 'cai como uma luva' in the taste of agribusiness — positive assessment",{"idx":1497,"utterance_id":1498,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1499,"start_s":1500,"end_s":1501,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},210,"68979","Why?",1506.74,1507.02,{"idx":1503,"utterance_id":1504,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1505,"start_s":1506,"end_s":1507,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},211,"68980","Because with everything mechanized today, the need for labor is becoming smaller and smaller.",1507.12,1510.22,{"idx":1509,"utterance_id":1510,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1511,"start_s":1512,"end_s":1513,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},212,"68981","And the price of a machine—once you buy it, it can last 10 years.",1510.72,1513.94,{"idx":1515,"utterance_id":1516,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1517,"start_s":1518,"end_s":1519,"word_count":124,"indexable":13},213,"68982","Fertilizers, which last at least two harvests, he is buying there and paying more and more, which reduces his profit.",1514,1520.74,{"idx":1521,"utterance_id":1522,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1523,"start_s":1524,"end_s":1525,"word_count":92,"topic_slug":815,"topic_label":816,"target_id":1526,"target_proposition":1527,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":1528,"indexable":13},214,"68983","So, we have a number of conditions and pieces of information to convey to agribusiness.",1520.78,1527.84,"1d54ab74-d13d-46a8-81c4-adee55edd47b","approach the agribusiness sector and listen to its leaders","Says they have the means and information to dialogue with the sector about policies",{"idx":1530,"utterance_id":1531,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1532,"start_s":1533,"end_s":1534,"word_count":294,"topic_slug":815,"topic_label":816,"target_id":1406,"target_proposition":1407,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1535,"indexable":150},215,"68984","To speak precisely because of that question you asked, Eleonora: they... do not advocate in favor of sovereignty and much less in defense of Brazilian agribusiness when they want the American government to continue raising tariffs against national products.",1527.88,1543.24,"Criticizes those who advocate external tariffs that harm the national agribusiness",{"idx":1537,"utterance_id":1538,"speaker_name":8,"text":1539,"start_s":1540,"end_s":1541,"word_count":114,"indexable":13},216,"68985","Very well, we have now concluded our first segment here of Barão in the 2026 elections.",1544.24,1550.18,{"idx":1543,"utterance_id":1544,"speaker_name":8,"text":1545,"start_s":1546,"end_s":1547,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},217,"68986","I want to thank our interviewers, Eleonora and Rodolfo, who is also here following everything via Tutameia.",1550.32,1558.1,{"idx":1549,"utterance_id":1550,"speaker_name":8,"text":1551,"start_s":1552,"end_s":1553,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},218,"68987","I want to thank Luísa Vilela, who had to leave and followed via ICL.",1558.56,1562.68,{"idx":1555,"utterance_id":1556,"speaker_name":8,"text":1557,"start_s":1558,"end_s":1559,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},219,"68988","And we will now move on to our second segment; for those just joining, this is Barão in the Elections, interviewing the pre-candidate for the Senate from São Paulo, Simone Tebet.",1563.46,1573.7,{"idx":1561,"utterance_id":1562,"speaker_name":8,"text":1563,"start_s":1564,"end_s":1565,"word_count":192,"indexable":13},220,"68989","Leave your thumbs-up to increase the reach of our broadcast, subscribe to the Barão de Tararé channel and keep contributing to the campaign 'Fight like Barão'.",1574.88,1586.76,{"idx":1567,"utterance_id":1568,"speaker_name":8,"text":1569,"start_s":1570,"end_s":1571,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},221,"68990","They will show the address on the little screen for you to contribute via Pix.",1587.72,1591.72,{"idx":1573,"utterance_id":1574,"speaker_name":8,"text":1575,"start_s":1576,"end_s":1577,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},222,"68991","Do the Pix—Pix is ours, it's Brazil's, and we love it.",1592.38,1595.06,{"idx":1579,"utterance_id":1580,"speaker_name":8,"text":1581,"start_s":1582,"end_s":1583,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},223,"68992","And now we'll call our second block of interviewers, okay, folks?",1595.44,1599.1,{"idx":1585,"utterance_id":1586,"speaker_name":8,"text":1587,"start_s":1588,"end_s":1589,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},224,"68993","Please, Lourdes Nassif from the GGN newspaper and Daiane Santos from Brasil 247 may come forward.",1599.94,1606.14,{"idx":1591,"utterance_id":1592,"speaker_name":8,"text":1593,"start_s":1594,"end_s":1595,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},225,"68994","Welcome!",1606.36,1607.1,{"idx":1597,"utterance_id":1598,"speaker_name":8,"text":1599,"start_s":1600,"end_s":1601,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},226,"68995","Minister, thank you for this opportunity.",1608.5,1611.54,{"idx":1603,"utterance_id":1604,"speaker_name":8,"text":1605,"start_s":1606,"end_s":1607,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},227,"68996","I was going to go to Brasil 2050, but I decided... to come back to earth and enter the Senate with a different perspective.",1614.2,1622.6,{"idx":1609,"utterance_id":1610,"speaker_name":8,"text":1611,"start_s":1612,"end_s":1613,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},228,"68997","You had the opportunity to experience roles that are extremely important in a political life.",1624.02,1631,{"idx":1615,"utterance_id":1616,"speaker_name":8,"text":1617,"start_s":1618,"end_s":1619,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},229,"68998","So, you have been a state deputy, served as mayor twice, been vice-governor and senator and, finally, minister.",1631.06,1639,{"idx":1621,"utterance_id":1622,"speaker_name":8,"text":1623,"start_s":1624,"end_s":1625,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},230,"68999","So, you have an understanding of each of the main levels: the city, the state and the country.",1639.42,1648.74,{"idx":1627,"utterance_id":1628,"speaker_name":8,"text":1629,"start_s":1630,"end_s":1631,"word_count":114,"indexable":13},231,"69000","So, it's a very important issue, in my view, for us to talk now about public security.",1648.86,1656.12,{"idx":1633,"utterance_id":1634,"speaker_name":8,"text":1635,"start_s":1636,"end_s":1637,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":1638,"topic_label":1639,"target_id":1640,"target_proposition":1641,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":1642,"indexable":13},232,"69001","Public security was hijacked; the agenda was hijacked by the far right.",1656.9,1662.4,"seguranca-nacional","National Security","d2028522-6df9-477b-a156-e0689c8df133","present security policies based on solutions and rights, not punitive rhetoric","Says the agenda was 'sequestrada' by the far-right, calling for reorientation of the debate",{"idx":1644,"utterance_id":1645,"speaker_name":8,"text":1646,"start_s":1647,"end_s":1648,"word_count":208,"indexable":13},233,"69002","They began to exert pressure on the population through fear, not through solutions, and portraying public security as if it were about arming the police and letting them kill.",1662.84,1676.48,{"idx":1650,"utterance_id":1651,"speaker_name":8,"text":1652,"start_s":1653,"end_s":1654,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},234,"69003","So, we have a point that needs to be unpacked and presented to the population in the right way.",1677.28,1685.46,{"idx":1656,"utterance_id":1657,"speaker_name":8,"text":1658,"start_s":1659,"end_s":1660,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":1638,"topic_label":1639,"target_id":1661,"target_proposition":1662,"stance":1663,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":1664,"indexable":13},235,"69004","In your view, is the best solution in legislation—a criminal, penal legislation (I said criminal but I mean penal)—the question is to focus on legislation, focus on the prison system, bottlenecks and fixes, or to bet on integration between security forces?",1685.9,1709.74,"eb67ce64-8517-4af6-99af-983fb0015858","reform criminal legislation","ambiguo","Asks whether the best path is criminal legislation — does not take a clear position",{"idx":1666,"utterance_id":1667,"speaker_name":8,"text":1668,"start_s":1669,"end_s":1670,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},236,"69005","In your view, as a senator, what is the best path in the fight for public security to provide support to the federal government?",1710.14,1718.04,{"idx":1672,"utterance_id":1673,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1674,"start_s":1675,"end_s":1676,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},237,"69006","Perfect, Lourdes.",1719.34,1720.14,{"idx":1678,"utterance_id":1679,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1680,"start_s":1681,"end_s":1682,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},238,"69007","I know where the question from Estratégia 2050 would come from.",1720.18,1723.14,{"idx":248,"utterance_id":1684,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1685,"start_s":1686,"end_s":1687,"word_count":114,"indexable":13},"69008","Nassif is always passionate about this subject; I read all of his analyses whenever possible.",1724.02,1728.78,{"idx":1689,"utterance_id":1690,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1691,"start_s":1692,"end_s":1693,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},240,"69009","I had a good conversation with him about planning and Brazil for the next 25 years, but you address an extremely relevant topic.",1729.56,1738.76,{"idx":1695,"utterance_id":1696,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1697,"start_s":1698,"end_s":1699,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},241,"69010","Public security here in São Paulo will be decisive, including for a state election.",1739.1,1743.36,{"idx":1701,"utterance_id":1702,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1703,"start_s":1704,"end_s":1705,"word_count":114,"indexable":13},242,"69011","We are ready to confront it with the truth, not with lies or easy rhetoric.",1743.4,1748.04,{"idx":1707,"utterance_id":1708,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1709,"start_s":1710,"end_s":1711,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":1638,"topic_label":1639,"target_id":1712,"target_proposition":1713,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1714,"rationale":1715,"indexable":150},243,"69012","The easy slogan is theirs: a good criminal is a dead criminal.",1748.08,1750.46,"9cf9f4da-5b81-4481-8dd7-975436c8d30a","guarantee due process and effective enforcement of sentences",0.86,"Counters 'bandido bom é bandido morto' and rejects extrajudicial punitive rhetoric",{"idx":1717,"utterance_id":1718,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1719,"start_s":1720,"end_s":1721,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},244,"69013","That's not what this is about.",1750.86,1752.02,{"idx":1723,"utterance_id":1724,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1725,"start_s":1726,"end_s":1727,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":1638,"topic_label":1639,"target_id":1712,"target_proposition":1713,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1728,"rationale":1729,"indexable":150},245,"69014","A good criminal is one who, after being tried, prosecuted, given full defense and adversarial proceedings, serves his sentence.",1752.42,1758.64,0.92,"Defines a criminal as someone who, after due process, serves the sentence — defense of due process",{"idx":1731,"utterance_id":1732,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1733,"start_s":1734,"end_s":1735,"word_count":208,"topic_slug":1736,"topic_label":1737,"target_id":1738,"target_proposition":1739,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":1740,"indexable":150},246,"69015","Whether the petty offender or the white-collar one—which is what is happening—that's where we have to go after those with money, those who finance crime.",1759.16,1767.5,"crime-organizado","Organized Crime","ea782eb1-3535-4fe7-ac8a-68a215446d4f","investigate money-laundering schemes linked to criminal organizations","Says it is necessary to catch those who finance crime, including white-collar offenders",{"idx":1742,"utterance_id":1743,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1744,"start_s":1745,"end_s":1746,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":1747,"topic_label":1748,"target_id":1749,"target_proposition":1750,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1751,"indexable":150},247,"69016","And then we'll have to confront, with the proper reality, the numbers—often falsified—that are presented.",1767.92,1773.1,"saude-publica-seguranca-publica","Public Health \u002F Public Safety","d6524f73-6645-443c-8f25-1081d7249fe3","ensure transparency and accuracy in public security statistics","States that it is necessary to confront numbers that are often falsified",{"idx":1753,"utterance_id":1754,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1755,"start_s":1756,"end_s":1757,"word_count":86,"topic_slug":1638,"topic_label":1639,"target_id":1758,"target_proposition":1759,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1760,"indexable":150},248,"69017","It's true that some rates of homicides and robberies, for example in the state of São Paulo, have fallen, but that decrease is also elitist.",1773.6,1780.94,"1496a844-7bd7-4072-8771-6e3dd10f36cc","reduce regional security inequalities and focus on peripheries","Acknowledges a decline in elite-focused indicators and points to violence in the peripheries",{"idx":1762,"utterance_id":1763,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1764,"start_s":1765,"end_s":1766,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":1638,"topic_label":1639,"target_id":1767,"target_proposition":1768,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":1769,"indexable":13},249,"69018","You go to the South Zone, to Capão Redondo, and the levels of violence are absurd.",1780.98,1784.46,"0552c460-1c26-4e27-8870-466e281c3a6b","reduce homicides and violence","Reports high levels of violence in areas like Capão Redondo — factual description",{"idx":1771,"utterance_id":1772,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1773,"start_s":1774,"end_s":1775,"word_count":633,"topic_slug":1776,"topic_label":1777,"target_id":1778,"target_proposition":1779,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":1780,"indexable":150},250,"69019","There is selectivity: for example, money is cut from a women's secretariat, and with that, and with hate speech on social networks, you see an increase in domestic violence. And when I talk about domestic violence, we cannot speak only about women; domestic violence includes violence against children, against the elderly, against people with disabilities—we are talking about pedophilia inside the home. It's not only femicide and domestic violence, which are equally serious.",1784.96,1811.02,"politica-de-genero-seguranca-publica","Gender Policy \u002F Public Security","59d8b43c-d072-4784-9e9d-d52ccdf5698a","increase funding and infrastructure for policies protecting women and combating domestic violence","Links budget cuts to the rise in domestic violence and calls for public action",{"idx":1782,"utterance_id":1783,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1784,"start_s":1785,"end_s":1786,"word_count":142,"topic_slug":1787,"topic_label":1788,"target_id":1789,"target_proposition":1790,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":350,"rationale":1791,"indexable":150},251,"69020","So the population feels threatened with good reason; thefts and robberies of cellphones are linked to digital crimes, accounts are emptied to finance organized crime—the big reality, put simply.",1811.84,1825.28,"desinformacao-e-crimes-ciberneticos","Disinformation and Cybercrime","3b4f9c50-fbc4-4a96-833c-27e6a81ba5a6","Disrupt fencing networks and combat digital crimes","Links thefts, digital crimes and emptying of accounts to organized crime",{"idx":1793,"utterance_id":1794,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1795,"start_s":1796,"end_s":1797,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},252,"69021","And with that you will understand the answer I'm going to give you to all of this.",1825.66,1829.58,{"idx":1799,"utterance_id":1800,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1801,"start_s":1802,"end_s":1803,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":1736,"topic_label":1737,"target_id":1804,"target_proposition":1805,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":1806,"indexable":150},253,"69022","Today Brazil's big problem is called organized crime—read: PCC.",1830.22,1835.08,"7c8cd665-4311-45ab-828e-8088c0bd3729","implement effective operational actions against organized crime","Categorically states that the major problem is organized crime (PCC)",{"idx":1808,"utterance_id":1809,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1810,"start_s":1811,"end_s":1812,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},254,"69023","And Comando Vermelho.",1835.68,1836.58,{"idx":1814,"utterance_id":1815,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1816,"start_s":1817,"end_s":1818,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},255,"69024","They have internationalized.",1837.06,1839.24,{"idx":1820,"utterance_id":1821,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1822,"start_s":1823,"end_s":1824,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},256,"69025","It's not that they just moved from one state to another.",1839.8,1842.84,{"idx":1826,"utterance_id":1827,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1828,"start_s":1829,"end_s":1830,"word_count":55,"topic_slug":1831,"topic_label":1832,"target_id":1833,"target_proposition":1834,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1835,"indexable":13},257,"69026","They are already in Bolivia, in Paraguay.",1843.2,1845.22,"politica-criminal-endurecimento-da-legislacao","Criminal Policy","613ce0b5-0919-4417-a9fa-a3f8e034e51f","cooperate regionally to combat transnational organized crime","Reports the criminal group's presence in Bolivia and Paraguay — points to a transnational dimension",{"idx":1837,"utterance_id":1838,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1839,"start_s":1840,"end_s":1841,"word_count":130,"indexable":13},258,"69027","I know because I was born in the state of Mato Grosso do Sul and I was very connected to the Secretariat of Public Security when I was vice-governor, and I know this reality.",1845.36,1854.04,{"idx":1843,"utterance_id":1844,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1845,"start_s":1846,"end_s":1847,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},259,"69028","So they are vertically integrating.",1854.44,1856.34,{"idx":1849,"utterance_id":1850,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1851,"start_s":1852,"end_s":1853,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},260,"69029","They are eliminating competition and vertically integrating.",1856.46,1860.12,{"idx":1855,"utterance_id":1856,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1857,"start_s":1858,"end_s":1859,"word_count":393,"topic_slug":1860,"topic_label":1861,"target_id":1862,"target_proposition":1863,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":1864,"indexable":150},261,"69030","So, they produce the drugs. There are no middlemen: they produce, they transport, they cross states, they reach the small and medium-sized cities in the state of São Paulo, terrorizing them; then they go to the Port of Santos and ship the production to Asia, to Europe, wherever.",1860.5,1878.3,"controle-de-fronteiras-e-combate-ao-trafico-de-armas-e-drogas","Border Control & Trafficking","dd4d1e44-419a-4437-8d3f-7a663143e8ba","combat arms and drug trafficking at the borders","Description of production, transport and outflow via Porto de Santos indicates need for action",{"idx":1866,"utterance_id":1867,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1868,"start_s":1869,"end_s":1870,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":1871,"topic_label":1872,"target_id":1873,"target_proposition":1874,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":1875,"indexable":150},262,"69031","It's the same with weapons that come into people's hands here.",1878.66,1881.1,"direitos-individuais-armas","Individual Rights \u002F Guns","d4f6164a-efb3-4c5f-9ab7-af72bc5e5984","combat arms trafficking and its entry into the country","Mentions an influx of weapons used by militias and organized crime",{"idx":1877,"utterance_id":1878,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1879,"start_s":1880,"end_s":1881,"word_count":208,"topic_slug":1882,"topic_label":1883,"target_id":1884,"target_proposition":1885,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":350,"rationale":1886,"indexable":150},263,"69032","From militias, from organized crime, with counterfeit alcohol, with services in the peripheries—in Paraisópolis, in Heliópolis or any other favela in Rio de Janeiro, like Rocinha, and so on.",1882.06,1894.86,"corrupcao-e-milicias","Corruption and Militias","2fb71ddf-39af-4361-a39b-240ce6a37d29","investigate and combat illicit militia activities and crimes in the peripheries","Lists militias, counterfeit alcohol and illegal services in the peripheries as problems",{"idx":1888,"utterance_id":1889,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1890,"start_s":1891,"end_s":1892,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":1736,"topic_label":1737,"target_id":1893,"target_proposition":1894,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":1895,"indexable":150},264,"69033","So, given this, the answer is you can't fight organized crime—which is already in the financial market—without two actions.",1895.18,1904.04,"c181b5f8-2ecc-4088-aa43-03ea663ea50b","ensure cooperation between states and the Union in combating organized crime","States that organized crime cannot be fought without two actions — coordination and financial operations",{"idx":1897,"utterance_id":1898,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1899,"start_s":1900,"end_s":1901,"word_count":34,"topic_slug":1638,"topic_label":1639,"target_id":1902,"target_proposition":1903,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":1904,"indexable":13},265,"69034","The first: a national coordination.",1904.62,1907.16,"ae70fd90-069a-4cd8-8d9a-d7814827dfae","Establish national public security coordination to combat organized crime","Declares 'A primeira, uma coordenação nacional' as a necessary measure",{"idx":1906,"utterance_id":1907,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1908,"start_s":1909,"end_s":1910,"word_count":36,"topic_slug":1638,"topic_label":1639,"target_id":1902,"target_proposition":1903,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":1911,"indexable":13},266,"69035","By the Union.",1907.5,1908.58,"Reinforces that national coordination must come from the federal government (continuation of the proposal)",{"idx":1913,"utterance_id":1914,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1915,"start_s":1916,"end_s":1917,"word_count":107,"topic_slug":1747,"topic_label":1748,"target_id":1918,"target_proposition":1919,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":1920,"indexable":13},267,"69036","President Lula wanted it; Minister Levantovski proposed the PEC and it is stalled in the National Congress.",1908.72,1914.4,"f4188075-9867-40f8-9244-3b24fd2c5715","approve the Security PEC in the National Congress","Reports that the minister proposed the PEC and that it is stalled in the National Congress — description",{"idx":1922,"utterance_id":1923,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1924,"start_s":1925,"end_s":1926,"word_count":465,"topic_slug":1747,"topic_label":1748,"target_id":1918,"target_proposition":1919,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":1927,"indexable":150},268,"69037","If it is not approved by this year, the next National Congress has to put everyone on the table and say, look, let's stop grandstanding on social media at the expense of other people's misfortune, the pain, the death of a son, of a mother who receives a stray bullet, and let's solve the problem of organized crime in Brazil.",1914.72,1932.7,"Urges that, if not approved, the next Congress should put the PEC on the agenda.",{"idx":1929,"utterance_id":1930,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1931,"start_s":1932,"end_s":1933,"word_count":621,"topic_slug":1934,"topic_label":1935,"target_id":1936,"target_proposition":1937,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":350,"rationale":1938,"indexable":150},269,"69038","And when I speak of organized crime, I'm not only talking about people from the periphery; I'm talking about people involved—rich people who today are infiltrated in fintechs, in the financial system. Banks are desperate because they can't identify them, and then the United States says, look, if I designate it as a terrorist organization, I may be able to block even transactions of your national banks, or companies that received funds unknowingly—look at the complexity of the matter.",1933.18,1966.04,"combate-ao-crime-organizado-financas","Combating Organized Crime \u002F Finance","ded8c8ce-dc71-42da-b2bc-c817a5aa7e48","investigate and punish financiers and infiltrators of organized crime in the financial system","Warns about infiltration in fintechs and risk of international blocks — calls for financial action.",{"idx":1940,"utterance_id":1941,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1942,"start_s":1943,"end_s":1944,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},270,"69039","So, this is a problem.",1966.1,1968.04,{"idx":1946,"utterance_id":1947,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1948,"start_s":1949,"end_s":1950,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},271,"69040","And the second point... So that's part of it.",1968.5,1971,{"idx":1952,"utterance_id":1953,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1954,"start_s":1955,"end_s":1956,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":1831,"topic_label":1832,"target_id":1957,"target_proposition":1958,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":1959,"indexable":150},272,"69041","Second point: this is what we have already begun to do.",1971.06,1973.16,"1e054922-572b-49c2-a4d4-5cff8992870b","conduct operations to identify and dismantle money laundering in lawful activities","States 'é isso que nós já começamos a fazer' — claims her own action in operations.",{"idx":1961,"utterance_id":1962,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1963,"start_s":1964,"end_s":1965,"word_count":264,"topic_slug":1966,"topic_label":1967,"target_id":1968,"target_proposition":1969,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":1970,"indexable":150},273,"69042","They are the operations; it's hidden capital within services considered lawful—they infiltrate gas stations to launder money, and it's not small money; we're talking about billion-dollar accounts to make more money.",1974.16,1989.5,"lavagem-de-dinheiro","Money Laundering","9fb7a59e-fa76-4d1c-b90f-1ad19be7ceaf","combat money laundering","Explains operations against 'carbono oculto' and laundering at gas stations to dismantle money flows.",{"idx":1972,"utterance_id":1973,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1974,"start_s":1975,"end_s":1976,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},274,"69043","So, it's through these two means.",1989.9,1992.52,{"idx":1978,"utterance_id":1979,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1980,"start_s":1981,"end_s":1982,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},275,"69044","But never like the far right does.",1992.6,1994.9,{"idx":1984,"utterance_id":1985,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1986,"start_s":1987,"end_s":1988,"word_count":341,"topic_slug":1989,"topic_label":1990,"target_id":1991,"target_proposition":1992,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":1993,"indexable":150},276,"69045","They strengthen the military police and run down the civil police, without investigation, without providing structure, without creating a humane penitentiary system that would allow a person—the petty offender, the one who has two, three, five years, eight years in prison—to come out a new citizen.",1996.46,2015.96,"reforma-da-seguranca-publica-e-cooperacao-entre-orgaos-pec-coaf","Public security reform","bcc04bff-3e1e-4243-8212-62593c165560","strengthen the civil police and create a humane penitentiary system","Criticizes militarization and calls for investigation, structure, and a humane penitentiary system.",{"idx":1995,"utterance_id":1996,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1997,"start_s":1998,"end_s":1999,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},277,"69046","So, there are several facets, but I would basically stick with this one.",2016.44,2020.62,{"idx":2001,"utterance_id":2002,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2003,"start_s":2004,"end_s":2005,"word_count":374,"topic_slug":2006,"topic_label":2007,"target_id":2008,"target_proposition":2009,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":2010,"indexable":150},278,"69047","There must be national coordination; the Security PEC is important to pass; the anti-gang bill was improved in the Senate but turned out poorly; there's a lot to it and I can't discuss it now. We therefore need a national concertation, and we have to focus on the money of organized crime, giving stimulus",2021.2,2039.7,"financas-publicas-e-seguranca-publica","Public Finance and Public Security","0fb7add0-e1dc-48c9-be77-6f193a012cb9","approve the Security PEC and improve anti-gang legislation; focus on organized crime money","Advocates approval of the PEC, improvement of the anti-faction bill, and focus on criminal financing.",{"idx":2012,"utterance_id":2013,"speaker_name":8,"text":2014,"start_s":2015,"end_s":2016,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},279,"69048","to partnership,",2042.02,2042.78,{"idx":2018,"utterance_id":2019,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2020,"start_s":2021,"end_s":2022,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":2023,"topic_label":2024,"target_id":2025,"target_proposition":2026,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1714,"rationale":2027,"indexable":150},280,"69049","to the union, the states, through... the forces of justice, the Public Prosecutor's Office, the Judiciary, the Civil Police, the Federal Police,",2042.82,2051.72,"seguranca-publica-e-ordem","Public Safety and Order","8ac8e900-a746-408a-a0cf-e78612368e5a","coordinate state and federal actions to combat organized crime","Lists the Union, states, and justice bodies as necessary actors in coordination.",{"idx":2029,"utterance_id":2030,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":1197,"start_s":2031,"end_s":2032,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},281,"69050",2051.8,2052,{"idx":2034,"utterance_id":2035,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2036,"start_s":2037,"end_s":2038,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},282,"69051","so we can fight organized crime.",2052.64,2054.92,{"idx":2040,"utterance_id":2041,"speaker_name":8,"text":2042,"start_s":2043,"end_s":2044,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},283,"69052","Very well, now our next interviewer, Daiane Santos from Brasil 247, the floor is yours.",2057.3,2064.06,{"idx":2046,"utterance_id":2047,"speaker_name":8,"text":2048,"start_s":2049,"end_s":2050,"word_count":256,"indexable":13},284,"69053","Thank you, Samira; it's a pleasure to be here—always good to be here with Barão. Barão does these... These interviews help us a lot and I believe they contribute greatly to the agenda of pre-candidates, political leaders, and authorities.",2064.98,2077.28,{"idx":322,"utterance_id":2052,"speaker_name":8,"text":2053,"start_s":2054,"end_s":2055,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},"69054","I very much appreciate the availability here of Minister Simone Tedros.",2077.36,2080.24,{"idx":2057,"utterance_id":2058,"speaker_name":8,"text":2059,"start_s":2060,"end_s":2061,"word_count":124,"topic_slug":2062,"topic_label":2063,"target_id":2064,"target_proposition":2065,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":2066,"indexable":150},286,"69055","I was going to also address security, but it has already been covered here, so I'll move to a subject that also affects me as a Black woman.",2080.82,2086.82,"acoes-afirmativas","Affirmative action","9eebe0f0-7858-4596-a3e6-b1e721a67edd","increase inclusion of Black women in technical and leadership positions in government","Recounts the episode of recruiting Black women, giving context and the criticism they faced.",{"idx":2068,"utterance_id":2069,"speaker_name":8,"text":2070,"start_s":2071,"end_s":2072,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},287,"69056","In January 2023, Minister, you stated that you had found it difficult to recruit Black women for technical positions.",2086.94,2095.74,{"idx":2074,"utterance_id":2075,"speaker_name":8,"text":2076,"start_s":2077,"end_s":2078,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},288,"69057","At the time, this generated criticism from social movements and Black leaders.",2096.26,2100.82,{"idx":2080,"utterance_id":2081,"speaker_name":8,"text":2082,"start_s":2083,"end_s":2084,"word_count":142,"indexable":13},289,"69058","Looking back, did all that repercussion generated by the episode change your view on the participation of Black women and on confronting the problem of racial underrepresentation in decision-making spaces?",2101.46,2119.62,{"idx":2086,"utterance_id":2087,"speaker_name":8,"text":2088,"start_s":2089,"end_s":2090,"word_count":228,"indexable":13},290,"69059","If you could revisit that moment of January 2023, what would you say today to the Black women who felt offended or unrepresented by your statement?",2120.1,2133.12,{"idx":2092,"utterance_id":2093,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2094,"start_s":2095,"end_s":2096,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":2062,"topic_label":2063,"target_id":2097,"target_proposition":2098,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":2099,"indexable":150},291,"69060","I deeply regret, Daiane, that in the way the speech was cut the right-wing took advantage and those who felt attacked...",2134.1,2143.06,"26a920dc-0bbd-4929-81dc-42b72f2715de","implement quotas and policies to increase Black women's participation in technical and leadership government roles","Explicitly states she wants a 30% quota for Black women in senior positions.",{"idx":2101,"utterance_id":2102,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2103,"start_s":2104,"end_s":2105,"word_count":86,"topic_slug":2062,"topic_label":2063,"target_id":2097,"target_proposition":2098,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":2106,"indexable":150},292,"69061","On the contrary, I wanted the ministry to be the first to have at least a 30% quota of Black women in senior positions.",2143.1,2150.82,"Reaffirms the goal of 30% quotas and the intention of inclusion.",{"idx":2108,"utterance_id":2109,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2110,"start_s":2111,"end_s":2112,"word_count":169,"topic_slug":2062,"topic_label":2063,"target_id":2113,"target_proposition":2114,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":2115,"indexable":150},293,"69062","And when I invited two who are excellent, and it is very difficult in the economic team—and I'll explain why—I reaffirm that.",2151.42,2158.7,"0f19e8a2-3db6-470a-bef5-cf668a1d09af","promote active recruitment and attractive policies for Black women in government technical posts","Reports inviting two Black professionals and making an active recruitment effort.",{"idx":2117,"utterance_id":2118,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2119,"start_s":2120,"end_s":2121,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},294,"69063","I reaffirm it to effect change; it's not just for show.",2159.18,2161.26,{"idx":2123,"utterance_id":2124,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2125,"start_s":2126,"end_s":2127,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},295,"69064","First, I wanted it to be the first, which is not easy.",2161.5,2163.9,{"idx":2129,"utterance_id":2130,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2131,"start_s":2132,"end_s":2133,"word_count":245,"indexable":13},296,"69065","In the Ministry's economic team, it's very difficult to have half women, whether Black or white; you know how sexist politics is in general.",2163.94,2174.32,{"idx":2135,"utterance_id":2136,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2137,"start_s":2138,"end_s":2139,"word_count":621,"topic_slug":2140,"topic_label":2141,"target_id":2142,"target_proposition":2143,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":2144,"indexable":13},297,"69066","And then, when I approached the two—poor things—I came with a high secretary salary; I wanted them to be just below the executive secretary. I won't name names now; I can name the two I invited later. They told me, 'but I managed, I'm employed, we have quotas in the private sector.' I said, that's good; the downside is that the private sector pays better than the public sector—we have a ceiling, we have a limitation.",2174.98,2202.34,"remuneracao-publica","Public Remuneration","c72f88a3-4072-408c-a616-cb2c1ecb849b","increase the purchasing power of wages and readjust remunerations","Explains that professionals refused public sector offers because private sector salaries were higher.",{"idx":2146,"utterance_id":2147,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2148,"start_s":2149,"end_s":2150,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},298,"69067","Both gave it up because of the higher salaries they had in other offers.",2202.74,2208.54,{"idx":2152,"utterance_id":2153,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2154,"start_s":2155,"end_s":2156,"word_count":86,"topic_slug":2062,"topic_label":2063,"target_id":2113,"target_proposition":2114,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":2157,"indexable":150},299,"69068","So I sought alternatives; in fact, I appointed women—Black women—within the team, but we have difficulty.",2208.88,2216.12,"Says she sought alternatives and placed Black women on the team despite difficulties.",{"idx":2159,"utterance_id":2160,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2161,"start_s":2162,"end_s":2163,"word_count":180,"topic_slug":2062,"topic_label":2063,"target_id":2164,"target_proposition":2165,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":2166,"indexable":150},300,"69069","I made a choice of a brown-skinned woman, the first woman to head an institute like IPEA, Luciana, wonderful, she shines there, I insisted on it.",2216.5,2226.08,"232963b2-e546-4a75-b9de-39efcf2a6e69","appoint and promote Black women to public leadership positions","Says she appointed the first parda woman as president of an institute (claimed concrete action).",{"idx":2168,"utterance_id":2169,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2170,"start_s":2171,"end_s":2172,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":2062,"topic_label":2063,"target_id":2173,"target_proposition":2174,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":2175,"indexable":150},301,"69070","to invite a Black journalist to report this fact, to shed light on the matter.",2226.5,2231.44,"cf5f85ad-ab97-4a86-8093-98eb051656f3","give visibility and voice to Black women in government and in the media","Reports having invited a Black journalist to tell the case and shed light on the issue.",{"idx":2177,"utterance_id":2178,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2179,"start_s":2180,"end_s":2181,"word_count":426,"indexable":13},302,"69071","Because if there's one thing that connects me with the left — I sometimes have disagreements on economic policy — but if there's something you can say unites me with them, it's that I've always done what's right in my life; the thing about everyone else, I think, the world's mistakes, injustice is what affects me most.",2231.92,2247.04,{"idx":2183,"utterance_id":2184,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2185,"start_s":2186,"end_s":2187,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},303,"69072","Injustice is something that screams very loudly in my heart; I can't stand injustice.",2247.62,2251.5,{"idx":2189,"utterance_id":2190,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2191,"start_s":2192,"end_s":2193,"word_count":186,"indexable":13},304,"69073","Then I have to hold myself back from speaking, I have to think twice to be smart, emotionally, in order to face the problem with rationality.",2252.1,2258.88,{"idx":2195,"utterance_id":2196,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2197,"start_s":2198,"end_s":2199,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},305,"69074","And that's something that bothers me.",2260,2262.26,{"idx":2201,"utterance_id":2202,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2203,"start_s":2204,"end_s":2205,"word_count":114,"topic_slug":2206,"topic_label":2207,"target_id":2208,"target_proposition":2209,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":350,"rationale":2210,"indexable":150},306,"69075","The poorest face of Brazil is always a woman, and always a Black woman.",2263.1,2266.78,"desigualdade-socioeconomica","Socioeconomic Inequality","e5cfe15f-22ac-496d-9768-c2f78fef65ca","prioritize social policies aimed at Black women living in poverty","Says that Brazil's poorest face is that of a Black woman, calling for social focus.",{"idx":2212,"utterance_id":2213,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2214,"start_s":2215,"end_s":2216,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},307,"69076","And it was usually from Brazil's North — from the Northeast, the Northeast not so much anymore — but from Brazil's North.",2267.28,2272.06,{"idx":2218,"utterance_id":2219,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2220,"start_s":2221,"end_s":2222,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},308,"69077","I've always made that distinction when speaking; my political life has to be focused on the social agenda for these issues.",2272.42,2279.1,{"idx":2224,"utterance_id":2225,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2226,"start_s":2227,"end_s":2228,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},309,"69078","So when I raised that issue — and I repeat, I even invited the person who spoke — I said, 'you come and understand what I'm saying.'",2279.18,2285.38,{"idx":2230,"utterance_id":2231,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2232,"start_s":2233,"end_s":2234,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},310,"69079","It's not about excluding the debate, it's about including the debate.",2285.78,2288.32,{"idx":2236,"utterance_id":2237,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2238,"start_s":2239,"end_s":2240,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},311,"69080","So I take this opportunity to repeat it.",2288.36,2291.3,{"idx":2242,"utterance_id":2243,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2244,"start_s":2245,"end_s":2246,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},312,"69081","It's hard to attract people, because what happens?",2291.78,2295.96,{"idx":2248,"utterance_id":2249,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2250,"start_s":2251,"end_s":2252,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},313,"69082","You have to bring them to Brasília; it's another focus, another reality.",2296.8,2300.36,{"idx":2254,"utterance_id":2255,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2256,"start_s":2257,"end_s":2258,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},314,"69083","I was talking about a very specific reality of my ministry, of the Federal District.",2300.42,2305.9,{"idx":2260,"utterance_id":2261,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2262,"start_s":2263,"end_s":2264,"word_count":256,"indexable":13},315,"69084","One was from São Paulo, the other from another state, and they had difficulties — I have difficulty with housing — so I started bringing people, really looking in Brasília for whom we could bring.",2306.28,2314.94,{"idx":2266,"utterance_id":2267,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2268,"start_s":2269,"end_s":2270,"word_count":180,"indexable":13},316,"69085","But it's a difficulty in the economic area, and they will say so. It's good that the private sector is opening up this opportunity and is building up.",2315.28,2324.1,{"idx":2272,"utterance_id":2273,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2274,"start_s":2275,"end_s":2276,"word_count":213,"topic_slug":2277,"topic_label":2278,"target_id":2279,"target_proposition":2280,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":2281,"indexable":150},317,"69086","It even starts with access to universities, which was President Lula, through ProUni and Fies, who opened up the opportunity with quotas, which I have always supported, but it also involves the specificities of the courses themselves, so to speak.",2324.18,2340.68,"educacao-e-acesso-a-universidade","Education and University Access","40ca993a-5662-4a1c-95d4-a7e7e30521af","maintain and strengthen programs such as ProUni, Fies and racial quota policies","Attributes greater university access to ProUni\u002FFies and says she advocates in favor of quotas.",{"idx":2283,"utterance_id":2284,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2285,"start_s":2286,"end_s":2287,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},318,"69087","Who accesses, who doesn't access certain courses.",2341.28,2344.02,{"idx":2289,"utterance_id":2290,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2291,"start_s":2292,"end_s":2293,"word_count":169,"indexable":13},319,"69088","You have more men, sometimes — or used to in mathematics — and more women in the social fields, and we need to put an end to that.",2344.38,2351.32,{"idx":2295,"utterance_id":2296,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2297,"start_s":2298,"end_s":2299,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},320,"69089","It's by denouncing these things that I always do — the provocation I make.",2351.94,2354.9,{"idx":2301,"utterance_id":2302,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2303,"start_s":2304,"end_s":2305,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},321,"69090","So I would repeat it, because that was a reality; it happened to me.",2355.3,2358.08,{"idx":2307,"utterance_id":2308,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2309,"start_s":2310,"end_s":2311,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},322,"69091","I had to report it, even to be able to talk about it.",2358.38,2360.28,{"idx":2313,"utterance_id":2314,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2315,"start_s":2316,"end_s":2317,"word_count":180,"indexable":13},323,"69092","I always call her Marielle, poor thing, but I told our minister Franco, I have Marielle's name in my head, but anyway.",2360.44,2370.9,{"idx":2319,"utterance_id":2320,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2321,"start_s":2322,"end_s":2323,"word_count":393,"indexable":13},324,"69093","Aniele, our pre-candidate — I told Aniele, 'Aniele, I want you to help me find names, I want to bring people' — because the two I initially counted on said, look, the salary wasn't small, but the salary in the private sector was higher.",2371.36,2386.64,{"idx":2325,"utterance_id":2326,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2327,"start_s":2328,"end_s":2329,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},325,"69094","I think we need to discuss these issues, because that's it — I wanted to give a telling example of what happens in real life.",2387.5,2394.4,{"idx":2331,"utterance_id":2332,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2333,"start_s":2334,"end_s":2335,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},326,"69095","So much so that I have a lot... I have a lot of respect for President Lula, because when I was a candidate and I went to support him, I said, 'Mr. President, I don't want anything, I won't take a ministry.'",2394.78,2403.8,{"idx":2337,"utterance_id":2338,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2339,"start_s":2340,"end_s":2341,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},327,"69096","I refused several times; the president kept offering.",2404.82,2406.84,{"idx":2343,"utterance_id":2344,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2345,"start_s":2346,"end_s":2347,"word_count":169,"indexable":13},328,"69097","On the third attempt he brought me into the ministry, because I thought my support for the president had to be legitimate, truly without strings.",2407.14,2413.32,{"idx":2349,"utterance_id":2350,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2351,"start_s":2352,"end_s":2353,"word_count":92,"topic_slug":250,"topic_label":251,"target_id":2354,"target_proposition":2355,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":2356,"indexable":150},329,"69098","I asked for five social projects; three have already been completed, two are in progress.",2413.66,2418.48,"ce266255-8755-45d2-a377-50a25be44f14","implement generous social policies","Claims to have requested five social projects and reports some were implemented.",{"idx":2358,"utterance_id":2359,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2360,"start_s":2361,"end_s":2362,"word_count":86,"topic_slug":2363,"topic_label":2364,"target_id":2365,"target_proposition":2366,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":2367,"indexable":150},330,"69099","The first thing I put to him was equal pay between men and women — that's the first thing I said — and it was approved.",2418.58,2424.02,"igualdade-de-genero","Gender equality","3806e9e7-04b2-4a13-9a46-fcd250265ab7","guarantee equal pay for women and men when performing the same role","Says she put forward equal pay as a bill and that it was approved.",{"idx":2369,"utterance_id":2370,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2371,"start_s":2372,"end_s":2373,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":2363,"topic_label":2364,"target_id":2365,"target_proposition":2366,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":2374,"indexable":150},331,"69100","And now the STF has only just cleared it, so we can start going after the companies.",2424.42,2428.52,"Says that the STF authorized measures to pursue companies.",{"idx":2376,"utterance_id":2377,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2378,"start_s":2379,"end_s":2380,"word_count":256,"topic_slug":2363,"topic_label":2364,"target_id":2365,"target_proposition":2366,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":2381,"indexable":150},332,"69101","And I told him, 'the first thing, there are a ton of witnesses, Mr. President: today a woman earns 25% less than a man, having the same profession, the same résumé, the same years of service.'",2428.96,2439.32,"Reports a wage statistic (25% less) without proposing action in that sentence.",{"idx":2383,"utterance_id":2384,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2385,"start_s":2386,"end_s":2387,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":2363,"topic_label":2364,"target_id":2365,"target_proposition":2366,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":2388,"indexable":150},333,"69102","And if she is Black, she may end up earning 40% less.",2439.78,2441.96,"Reports a statistic about Black women earning less, without proposing action.",{"idx":2390,"utterance_id":2391,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2392,"start_s":2393,"end_s":2394,"word_count":69,"topic_slug":2395,"topic_label":2396,"target_id":2397,"target_proposition":2398,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":2399,"indexable":150},334,"69103","So it's against these injustices that I fight.",2442.84,2445.14,"direitos-humanos","Human rights","2f302db6-a301-42b1-904a-df16ca9aaed9","guarantee equal pay and combat discrimination based on gender and race","Explicitly states she fights against these injustices.",{"idx":2401,"utterance_id":2402,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2403,"start_s":2404,"end_s":2405,"word_count":12,"topic_slug":677,"topic_label":678,"target_id":2406,"target_proposition":2407,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":2408,"indexable":150},335,"69104","And that's what ties me more to President Lula's government than, for example, the economic agenda.",2445.56,2451.36,"9f3b22ef-57ff-4476-82f8-44f284b7abf3","support the federal government's social policies","Says this agenda aligns her more with the Lula government than the economic agenda.",{"idx":2410,"utterance_id":2411,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2412,"start_s":2413,"end_s":2414,"word_count":303,"indexable":13},336,"69105","But I appreciate the opportunity here, again, of these soundbite-type cuts, the so-called 'lead', the headlines — we end up being... And many times we fall into the statements or provocations made on the other side.",2452.46,2469.46,{"idx":2416,"utterance_id":2417,"speaker_name":8,"text":2418,"start_s":2419,"end_s":2420,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},337,"69106","That's it, folks.",2472.1,2473.14,{"idx":2422,"utterance_id":2423,"speaker_name":8,"text":2424,"start_s":2425,"end_s":2426,"word_count":186,"indexable":13},338,"69107","We are ending another segment, the second segment here of our Subarão in the 2026 elections, listening to the minister and pre-candidate for the Senate for São Paulo, Simone Tebet.",2473.18,2483.86,{"idx":2428,"utterance_id":2429,"speaker_name":8,"text":2430,"start_s":2431,"end_s":2432,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},339,"69108","I want to thank Dayane Santos and Lourdes Nassif.",2484.24,2487.16,{"idx":2434,"utterance_id":2435,"speaker_name":8,"text":2436,"start_s":2437,"end_s":2438,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},340,"69109","Thank you very much for your questions and for participating.",2487.9,2490.76,{"idx":2440,"utterance_id":2441,"speaker_name":8,"text":2442,"start_s":2443,"end_s":2444,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},341,"69110","And to say some news: we will have a short break now — it's time for you to have some water and come back to follow our interview.",2490.96,2499.28,{"idx":2446,"utterance_id":2447,"speaker_name":8,"text":2448,"start_s":2449,"end_s":2450,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},342,"69111","And now we will call our third and final segment here of Barão in the elections, with the interview with Minister Simone Tebet, pre-candidate for the Senate for São Paulo.",2499.74,2511.84,{"idx":2452,"utterance_id":2453,"speaker_name":8,"text":2454,"start_s":2455,"end_s":2456,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},343,"69112","Let's call our interviewers.",2512.86,2515.02,{"idx":2458,"utterance_id":2459,"speaker_name":8,"text":2460,"start_s":2461,"end_s":2462,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},344,"69113","Here we go, welcoming Beatriz Ferreira, from TVT, and Tiago Sunan, from DCM.",2516.2,2521.06,{"idx":2464,"utterance_id":2465,"speaker_name":8,"text":2466,"start_s":2467,"end_s":2468,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},345,"69114","Welcome, welcome.",2521.1,2526.22,{"idx":2470,"utterance_id":2471,"speaker_name":8,"text":2466,"start_s":2472,"end_s":2473,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},346,"69115",2526.26,2528.44,{"idx":2475,"utterance_id":2476,"speaker_name":8,"text":2477,"start_s":2478,"end_s":2479,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},347,"69116","The floor is yours, Luiz.",2528.48,2529.12,{"idx":2481,"utterance_id":2482,"speaker_name":8,"text":2483,"start_s":2484,"end_s":2485,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},348,"69117","Good afternoon.",2529.16,2529.68,{"idx":2487,"utterance_id":2488,"speaker_name":8,"text":2489,"start_s":2490,"end_s":2491,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},349,"69118","Bia still has her microphone off; I'll let her ask the first question.",2529.72,2535.02,{"idx":2493,"utterance_id":2494,"speaker_name":8,"text":2495,"start_s":2496,"end_s":2497,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},350,"69119","I'll be last here; I'm glad you're representing DCM here, especially interviewing Minister Simone Tebet, who was with us a little while ago and among so many wonderful colleagues.",2535.92,2546.88,{"idx":2499,"utterance_id":2500,"speaker_name":8,"text":2501,"start_s":2502,"end_s":2503,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},351,"69120","Hello, good afternoon.",2546.96,2550.8,{"idx":2505,"utterance_id":2506,"speaker_name":8,"text":2507,"start_s":2508,"end_s":2509,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},352,"69121","Good afternoon, pre-candidate, my fellow journalists.",2552.64,2556.84,{"idx":2511,"utterance_id":2512,"speaker_name":8,"text":2513,"start_s":2514,"end_s":2515,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},353,"69122","Well, I'd like to ask my question.",2557.56,2559.98,{"idx":2517,"utterance_id":2518,"speaker_name":8,"text":2519,"start_s":2520,"end_s":2521,"word_count":285,"topic_slug":2522,"topic_label":2523,"target_id":2524,"target_proposition":2525,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":2526,"indexable":13},354,"69123","Regarding the start of your political career, Simone, you were more connected to, or at least reported as being, a parliamentarian closer to the right, more conservative; you even had an issue regarding the demarcation of indigenous land, which you later addressed.",2560.2,2580.24,"terras-indigenas","Indigenous Lands","671cd6d3-2827-48af-b7aa-1199c6c493a0","Regularize and demarcate indigenous lands and marine areas","Asks about background and publications without taking a position.",{"idx":2528,"utterance_id":2529,"speaker_name":8,"text":2530,"start_s":2531,"end_s":2532,"word_count":444,"topic_slug":2522,"topic_label":2523,"target_id":2524,"target_proposition":2525,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":273,"rationale":2533,"indexable":13},355,"69124","Later, in 2018, you were on a list of parliamentarians who were judged as having acted least in favor of indigenous land, of the indigenous struggle, and then you started to recover that in 2022, publicly declaring that you are in favor of the demarcation of indigenous land, compensating the landowners who suffer from that land, but I would like to know how that process was.",2580.32,2608.54,"Reports facts about positions and mentions compensation, without expressing a personal opinion.",{"idx":2535,"utterance_id":2536,"speaker_name":8,"text":2537,"start_s":2538,"end_s":2539,"word_count":186,"topic_slug":677,"topic_label":678,"target_id":2540,"target_proposition":2541,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":2542,"rationale":2543,"indexable":13},356,"69125","to the point of today not being so tied to the right, even being counted as a voice to talk with the center-right and, at the outset, with the right.",2609.12,2620.98,"225083e5-7509-442f-b880-31a403081a9a","maintain dialogue with other political leaders",0.55,"Questions political evolution and the ability to engage with the center-right.",{"idx":2545,"utterance_id":2546,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2547,"start_s":2548,"end_s":2549,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},357,"69126","Well, Beatriz, life is an evolution, but I just wanted to say why I haven't changed that much, okay?",2622.92,2628.5,{"idx":2551,"utterance_id":2552,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2553,"start_s":2554,"end_s":2555,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},358,"69127","Let me explain something.",2628.74,2630.14,{"idx":2557,"utterance_id":2558,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2559,"start_s":2560,"end_s":2561,"word_count":192,"indexable":13},359,"69128","I come from a very conservative, right-wing state and I'm from agribusiness, so the indigenous cause wasn't my agenda because it wasn't my lived experience.",2630.54,2639.42,{"idx":2563,"utterance_id":2564,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2565,"start_s":2566,"end_s":2567,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},360,"69129","But in the Senate, since I took on a national role, this issue began to come up.",2639.98,2645.98,{"idx":2569,"utterance_id":2570,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2571,"start_s":2572,"end_s":2573,"word_count":374,"topic_slug":2574,"topic_label":2575,"target_id":2576,"target_proposition":2577,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":2578,"indexable":150},361,"69130","I never advocated against it, on the contrary, because I come from a state that has the second or third largest indigenous population, and I was vice-governor of a governor who had a very close relationship with the indigenous villages — all of them; we always... built houses, provided health care.",2646.04,2666.6,"politica-indigena","Indigenous Policy","e1a73ac2-dc17-495e-a1db-0c1bc0d0e376","provide food assistance and COVID prevention measures to indigenous families","Mentions work close to the villages providing housing and health care.",{"idx":2580,"utterance_id":2581,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2582,"start_s":2583,"end_s":2584,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},362,"69131","So my relationship has always been very good.",2666.66,2669.36,{"idx":2586,"utterance_id":2587,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2588,"start_s":2589,"end_s":2590,"word_count":186,"indexable":13},363,"69132","When the first time I was challenged on this issue — as always, Beatriz — I said, I have a legal solution for this that is in the Constitution itself.",2670.08,2677.84,{"idx":2592,"utterance_id":2593,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2594,"start_s":2595,"end_s":2596,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},364,"69133","Look, and I talk a lot with Soninha Guajajara, she agrees with me.",2678.52,2682.22,{"idx":2598,"utterance_id":2599,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2600,"start_s":2601,"end_s":2602,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},365,"69134","I said, look, you know why the issue of demarcating indigenous lands was never resolved?",2682.26,2687.48,{"idx":2604,"utterance_id":2605,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2606,"start_s":2607,"end_s":2608,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},366,"69135","Because nobody wants to resolve it.",2687.74,2688.76,{"idx":2610,"utterance_id":2611,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2612,"start_s":2613,"end_s":2614,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},367,"69136","If you want to resolve it, there is an alternative.",2689.22,2690.66,{"idx":2616,"utterance_id":2617,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2618,"start_s":2619,"end_s":2620,"word_count":426,"indexable":13},368,"69137","The Constitution, when it said... that the areas of the original peoples belong to the Union, therefore they do not have the right to be owned by any private person, they do not have the right to property, it also recognized that so many years had already passed that it created a provision saying the following: the Union needs to demarcate the areas within five years.",2691.12,2718.5,{"idx":2622,"utterance_id":2623,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2624,"start_s":2625,"end_s":2626,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},369,"69138","Five years passed, the Union did not demarcate.",2719.06,2721.24,{"idx":2628,"utterance_id":2629,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2630,"start_s":2631,"end_s":2632,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},370,"69139","10 years, 15 years, 20 years, 25 years, 30 years.",2721.26,2724.3,{"idx":2634,"utterance_id":2635,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2636,"start_s":2637,"end_s":2638,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},371,"69140","So what created a legal discussion?",2724.86,2727.2,{"idx":2640,"utterance_id":2641,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2642,"start_s":2643,"end_s":2644,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},372,"69141","If it did not demarcate, did it lose the rights of the original peoples?",2727.62,2730.98,{"idx":2646,"utterance_id":2647,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2648,"start_s":2649,"end_s":2650,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},373,"69142","For their whole lives?",2731.08,2731.58,{"idx":2652,"utterance_id":2653,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2654,"start_s":2655,"end_s":2656,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},374,"69143","I said no.",2731.62,2732.2,{"idx":2658,"utterance_id":2659,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2660,"start_s":2661,"end_s":2662,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},375,"69144","The Constitution is very clear, Union land is Union land.",2732.8,2735.4,{"idx":2664,"utterance_id":2665,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2666,"start_s":2667,"end_s":2668,"word_count":186,"indexable":13},376,"69145","What it only created was a right for those who were peacefully settled, having bought land, even bought from third parties, in good faith, that they would have to leave.",2735.98,2748.7,{"idx":2670,"utterance_id":2671,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2672,"start_s":2673,"end_s":2674,"word_count":114,"indexable":13},377,"69146","Seeing the demarcation, after the anthropological study, approved, the whole procedure, but being compensated for that.",2749.42,2756.74,{"idx":2676,"utterance_id":2677,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2678,"start_s":2679,"end_s":2680,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":2522,"topic_label":2523,"target_id":2681,"target_proposition":2682,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":2683,"indexable":13},378,"69147","For that, it was enough to amend the Constitution.",2757.14,2760.56,"f58011f9-97a1-44d2-84e5-828c007c6e4e","amend the Constitution to enable demarcation with compensation","Says that 'bastava alterar a Constituição' would resolve demarcation and compensation.",{"idx":2685,"utterance_id":2686,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2687,"start_s":2688,"end_s":2689,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},379,"69148","What did I do?",2761.18,2761.92,{"idx":2691,"utterance_id":2692,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2693,"start_s":2694,"end_s":2695,"word_count":180,"topic_slug":2522,"topic_label":2523,"target_id":2524,"target_proposition":2525,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":2696,"indexable":150},380,"69149","I took a bill that was very bad, I reworked it, I called all spheres, the PT voted unanimously with us, we approved it in the Senate... unanimously.",2762.5,2773.54,"Claims to have redrafted the bill and had the text approved in the Senate unanimously.",{"idx":2698,"utterance_id":2699,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2700,"start_s":2701,"end_s":2702,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":2522,"topic_label":2523,"target_id":2524,"target_proposition":2525,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":2703,"indexable":150},381,"69150","I don't know if there were 70 votes, 72, 75 votes present, because it was a text that guaranteed the demarcation of indigenous areas after the studies, but guaranteed by excluding, and it's important to say, excluding the demarcation of indigenous areas in the Legal Amazon.",2773.92,2791.44,"Defines the scope of the text and excludes demarcation in the Legal Amazon, defending compensated demarcations.",{"idx":2705,"utterance_id":2706,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2707,"start_s":2708,"end_s":2709,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},382,"69151","The Legal Amazon is patrimony of the Union, so it belongs to the original peoples; there are land grabbers there, land invaders.",2791.84,2800.08,{"idx":2711,"utterance_id":2712,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2713,"start_s":2714,"end_s":2715,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},383,"69152","People who are there to put cattle, to fence the forest, that's another story, that doesn't affect the Amazon rainforest.",2800.72,2807.46,{"idx":2717,"utterance_id":2718,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2719,"start_s":2720,"end_s":2721,"word_count":130,"topic_slug":2522,"topic_label":2523,"target_id":2524,"target_proposition":2525,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1714,"rationale":2722,"indexable":150},384,"69153","I am talking about the interior of São Paulo, the interior of Mato Grosso do Sul, Bahia, where we have what would be the demarcations, I'm talking about compensatory demarcations in those regions.",2807.5,2817.56,"Explicitly states she defends compensated demarcations in certain regions.",{"idx":2724,"utterance_id":2725,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2726,"start_s":2727,"end_s":2728,"word_count":12,"topic_slug":2522,"topic_label":2523,"target_id":2524,"target_proposition":2525,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":1155,"rationale":2729,"indexable":150},385,"69154","When it reached the Chamber, the parliamentary front said, no, we are going to block this because Bolsonaro is going to win the election.",2818.06,2824.3,"Criticizes obstruction in the Chamber of Deputies and reaffirms support for demarcation.",{"idx":2731,"utterance_id":2732,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2733,"start_s":2734,"end_s":2735,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},386,"69155","I said, folks, four years, if that man wins the election, four years go by fast.",2824.34,2828.48,{"idx":2737,"utterance_id":2738,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2739,"start_s":2740,"end_s":2741,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},387,"69156","We will continue with this problem.",2828.7,2830.2,{"idx":2743,"utterance_id":2744,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2745,"start_s":2746,"end_s":2747,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},388,"69157","Now the thing continues, the indigenous population who wants to live in peace wants to live in peace.",2830.78,2836.4,{"idx":2749,"utterance_id":2750,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2751,"start_s":2752,"end_s":2753,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},389,"69158","Long story short, they sat on it.",2836.7,2838.4,{"idx":2755,"utterance_id":2756,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2757,"start_s":2758,"end_s":2759,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},390,"69159","President Lula won.",2838.72,2839.84,{"idx":2761,"utterance_id":2762,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2763,"start_s":2764,"end_s":2765,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},391,"69160","Then they came, well, you were right, you should have voted, right?",2840.42,2842.96,{"idx":2767,"utterance_id":2768,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2769,"start_s":2770,"end_s":2771,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},392,"69161","I said, well, it's moving toward that now, you see, Patrícia?",2843.04,2846.44,{"idx":2773,"utterance_id":2774,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2775,"start_s":2776,"end_s":2777,"word_count":180,"indexable":13},393,"69162","And just to be clear, I was never right-wing and I'm not left-wing either, I am very transparent, I have always been a centrist person.",2846.6,2852.96,{"idx":2779,"utterance_id":2780,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2781,"start_s":2782,"end_s":2783,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},394,"69163","I was Bolsonaro's colleague, I would never vote for Bolsonaro, I did not vote for Bolsonaro in 2018, in his first term.",2853.46,2861.36,{"idx":2785,"utterance_id":2786,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2787,"start_s":2788,"end_s":2789,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},395,"69164","I had a candidate who was from MDB, I have always been very loyal to the party, so I had an alternative.",2861.76,2867.98,{"idx":2791,"utterance_id":2792,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2793,"start_s":2794,"end_s":2795,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},396,"69165","I did not vote for Bolsonaro, neither in the first nor in the second round.",2868.74,2871.34,{"idx":2797,"utterance_id":2798,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2799,"start_s":2800,"end_s":2801,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},397,"69166","I have many sins, that sin I do not have.",2872.6,2874.84,{"idx":2803,"utterance_id":2804,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2805,"start_s":2806,"end_s":2807,"word_count":444,"topic_slug":2808,"topic_label":2809,"target_id":2810,"target_proposition":2811,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":2812,"indexable":150},398,"69167","From my first moment as a senator, he then afterwards senator, he won the election, not with my vote; I started from the first year, I was against his armament agenda, I was against the agenda of bulldozing measures through, against the environmental agenda, which is why Marina likes me a lot, we hit it off.",2875.2,2894.58,"politica-de-armas","Weapons Policy","bc1a0dc1-867f-4395-aefe-5be7c27415d3","restrict access to firearms for the population","States she was against the ex-president's 'pauta armamentista'.",{"idx":2814,"utterance_id":2815,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2816,"start_s":2817,"end_s":2818,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},399,"69168","Very good.",2895.14,2895.62,{"idx":2820,"utterance_id":2821,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2822,"start_s":2823,"end_s":2824,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},400,"69169","regarding the environmental agenda.",2896.18,2897.58,{"idx":2826,"utterance_id":2827,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2828,"start_s":2829,"end_s":2830,"word_count":124,"topic_slug":2395,"topic_label":2396,"target_id":2831,"target_proposition":2832,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":2833,"indexable":150},401,"69170","I am against his human rights agenda, against all the racism, the misogyny that the hate speech of the far-right funds.",2898.54,2907.54,"21f5f7c5-ea54-4679-b242-8d0d6e4f6fd0","ensure respect and preservation of rights for all people","Declares opposition to hate speech and defends human rights.",{"idx":2835,"utterance_id":2836,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2837,"start_s":2838,"end_s":2839,"word_count":180,"indexable":13},402,"69171","So, I can't see myself as someone from the left, obviously I'm not, you know that, and I can't see myself as someone from the right.",2907.92,2915.9,{"idx":2841,"utterance_id":2842,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2843,"start_s":2844,"end_s":2845,"word_count":124,"indexable":13},403,"69172","I am a person who tries to be as faithful as possible to the principles, to the values I identify with, of Christianity, of my faith.",2916.54,2923.88,{"idx":2847,"utterance_id":2848,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2849,"start_s":2850,"end_s":2851,"word_count":169,"indexable":13},404,"69173","Which is not necessarily evangelical faith, Catholic faith, it is faith, the faith that no one is happy seeing someone else's unhappiness.",2925,2931.86,{"idx":2853,"utterance_id":2854,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2855,"start_s":2856,"end_s":2857,"word_count":69,"topic_slug":2206,"topic_label":2207,"target_id":2858,"target_proposition":2859,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":2860,"indexable":150},405,"69174","Such a concentration of wealth is not possible.",2932.58,2934.94,"236617d4-cf7d-46e2-944b-491d018db02c","reduce socioeconomic inequality","States she fights against income concentration and situations of hunger and hardship.",{"idx":2862,"utterance_id":2863,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2864,"start_s":2865,"end_s":2866,"word_count":530,"indexable":13},406,"69175","I am not against wealth, I think people should earn money, but to have such concentration, such social inequality in countries like Brazil, with people going hungry or people having to count... the cents at the end of the month waiting for their paycheck, postponing grocery shopping by a week, five days to receive a salary, that is inadmissible, so that is what I fight against.",2935.6,2958.34,{"idx":2868,"utterance_id":2869,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2870,"start_s":2871,"end_s":2872,"word_count":130,"indexable":13},407,"69176","If that means being centrist, center-right or center-left, I don't know how to identify, but I do identify with the agendas that I think are fair agendas.",2958.66,2966.7,{"idx":2874,"utterance_id":2875,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2876,"start_s":2877,"end_s":2878,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},408,"69177","If they sometimes speak to the center-right part... I'm there.",2967.1,2971.6,{"idx":2880,"utterance_id":2881,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2882,"start_s":2883,"end_s":2884,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},409,"69178","If sometimes they speak to a part of the center-left or the left, I'm there.",2972.06,2975.6,{"idx":2886,"utterance_id":2887,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2888,"start_s":2889,"end_s":2890,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},410,"69179","I think that's it, that's how I identify.",2976.02,2978.32,{"idx":2892,"utterance_id":2893,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2894,"start_s":2895,"end_s":2896,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},411,"69180","Maybe it's not a good path, but it's what I am.",2978.78,2981.48,{"idx":2898,"utterance_id":2899,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2900,"start_s":2901,"end_s":2902,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},412,"69181","So, your question is also very valuable, it allows me... But of course we evolve.",2982.02,2986.72,{"idx":2904,"utterance_id":2905,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2906,"start_s":2907,"end_s":2908,"word_count":264,"indexable":13},413,"69182","Who would have thought, my first vote, and then I never voted for Lula again, my first vote when young, the first vote I gave post-democracy, I voted for Mário Covas and in the second round I voted for Lula.",2988.72,2999.14,{"idx":2910,"utterance_id":2911,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2912,"start_s":2913,"end_s":2914,"word_count":186,"indexable":13},414,"69183","I knew what it would be, I voted for Covas, not Collor, I voted for Covas, Mário Covas, and in the second round I voted for Lula, I never voted for Collor.",3000.12,3007.86,{"idx":2916,"utterance_id":2917,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":2918,"start_s":2919,"end_s":2920,"word_count":192,"indexable":13},415,"69184","Later I was very pro-Alckmin, I supported the PSDB, and later to be again with President Lula, and I am very happy with this process of construction.",3008.62,3018.5,{"idx":2922,"utterance_id":2923,"speaker_name":8,"text":2924,"start_s":2925,"end_s":2926,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},416,"69185","Very well, thank you, pre-candidate, and now let's call Tiago, Tiago Sumão.",3018.54,3023.38,{"idx":2928,"utterance_id":2929,"speaker_name":8,"text":2930,"start_s":2931,"end_s":2932,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},417,"69186","To ask here the last question of our afternoon, this has been an afternoon with a panel of interviewers, mostly interviewers.",3024.26,3032.38,{"idx":2934,"utterance_id":2935,"speaker_name":8,"text":2936,"start_s":2937,"end_s":2938,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},418,"69187","Thiago, welcome, the floor is yours.",3032.48,3034.48,{"idx":2940,"utterance_id":2941,"speaker_name":8,"text":2942,"start_s":2943,"end_s":2944,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},419,"69188","Well, Minister, good afternoon again.",3034.88,3036.4,{"idx":2946,"utterance_id":2947,"speaker_name":8,"text":2948,"start_s":2949,"end_s":2950,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},420,"69189","I would have some questions and with the minister, despite giving quite complete answers, she manages to cover a lot.",3037.56,3044.46,{"idx":2952,"utterance_id":2953,"speaker_name":8,"text":2954,"start_s":2955,"end_s":2956,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},421,"69190","In the short time available, I will allow myself at least to string together a pair.",3044.5,3048.12,{"idx":2958,"utterance_id":2959,"speaker_name":8,"text":2960,"start_s":2961,"end_s":2962,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},422,"69191","Starting with... It's often said that the voter from São Paulo has a different profile from the interior and from the capital.",3050.04,3059.5,{"idx":2964,"utterance_id":2965,"speaker_name":8,"text":2966,"start_s":2967,"end_s":2968,"word_count":186,"indexable":13},423,"69192","But the far-right has done work that has managed to embrace these two different profiles to the point of having a hegemony in São Paulo's recent history.",3061.66,3070.84,{"idx":2970,"utterance_id":2971,"speaker_name":8,"text":2972,"start_s":2973,"end_s":2974,"word_count":47,"indexable":13},424,"69193","Can this be broken both for the State government and for the two Senate candidacies that need to be competitive from the progressive field.",3070.9,3078.34,{"idx":2976,"utterance_id":2977,"speaker_name":8,"text":2978,"start_s":2979,"end_s":2980,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},425,"69194","But how to dialogue with two diverse publics?",3078.86,3081.78,{"idx":2982,"utterance_id":2983,"speaker_name":8,"text":2984,"start_s":2985,"end_s":2986,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},426,"69195","Meeting those expectations that are so divergent.",3083.14,3085.74,{"idx":2988,"utterance_id":2989,"speaker_name":8,"text":2990,"start_s":2991,"end_s":2992,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},427,"69196","Considering that, for some time, they do not feel belonging or, at least, represented by the progressive field in São Paulo.",3087.36,3094.94,{"idx":2994,"utterance_id":2995,"speaker_name":8,"text":2996,"start_s":2997,"end_s":2998,"word_count":420,"indexable":13},428,"69197","And then, I wanted to ask the following, it's often asked, I think maybe this is one of the questions asked of you most, of other names like Senator Soraya Tornik, who at some point had moments that represented, perhaps... the center or the right, and today are fighting alongside President Lula.",3095.18,3112.9,{"idx":3000,"utterance_id":3001,"speaker_name":8,"text":3002,"start_s":3003,"end_s":3004,"word_count":228,"indexable":13},429,"69198","And then it always gets to that thing, you were right-wing, you know what, and then you always have to be reaffirming even the complexity of politics and the person.",3113.22,3122.56,{"idx":3006,"utterance_id":3007,"speaker_name":8,"text":3008,"start_s":3009,"end_s":3010,"word_count":285,"indexable":13},430,"69199","But I would like to put another question within that, because, honestly, I think it's beautiful to see when... Senator Soraya says, I lived, I lived, which is the suitcase of this week, I lived to make Hélio.",3123.74,3135.86,{"idx":3012,"utterance_id":3013,"speaker_name":8,"text":3014,"start_s":3015,"end_s":3016,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},431,"69200","Or as you said earlier, I put it on Lula, I went through another commitment.",3136.56,3139.4,{"idx":3018,"utterance_id":3019,"speaker_name":8,"text":3020,"start_s":3021,"end_s":3022,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},432,"69201","Now, the question is different, it's of a personal character about the relationship with President Lula, which seems to be a very genuine relationship between you, you can see it in every public manifestation.",3139.74,3152.56,{"idx":3024,"utterance_id":3025,"speaker_name":8,"text":3026,"start_s":3027,"end_s":3028,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},433,"69202","I would say that, of all the president's ministers, you were one of the most loyal and closest to President Lula.",3152.94,3158.6,{"idx":3030,"utterance_id":3031,"speaker_name":8,"text":3032,"start_s":3033,"end_s":3034,"word_count":114,"indexable":13},434,"69203","And many people are saying that Lula must be surrounded by left-wing ministers.",3159.04,3163.2,{"idx":460,"utterance_id":3036,"speaker_name":8,"text":3037,"start_s":3038,"end_s":3039,"word_count":180,"indexable":13},"69204","and there are many ministers from the Workers' Party itself who did not show the same degree of loyalty and representation of the interests that President Lula narrated.",3163.24,3172.04,{"idx":3041,"utterance_id":3042,"speaker_name":8,"text":3043,"start_s":3044,"end_s":3045,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},436,"69205","Would you say your relationship with President Lula transformed Simone Tebet into what?",3173.66,3177.82,{"idx":3047,"utterance_id":3048,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3049,"start_s":3050,"end_s":3051,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},437,"69206","I don't know how much it transformed me, Tiago, but it brought me a perspective.",3178.66,3185.66,{"idx":3053,"utterance_id":3054,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3055,"start_s":3056,"end_s":3057,"word_count":86,"indexable":13},438,"69207","that I want one day to tell history about, because perhaps I have the legitimacy that those who are from the left do not have.",3186.44,3191.52,{"idx":3059,"utterance_id":3060,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3061,"start_s":3062,"end_s":3063,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},439,"69208","It only reinforced the president Lula's first humanist side, and I value that greatly.",3192.26,3196.6,{"idx":3065,"utterance_id":3066,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3067,"start_s":3068,"end_s":3069,"word_count":222,"indexable":13},440,"69209","Because, again, if you look at the Bible and the story of Jesus, you can't help but say that he was much more to the left than any of you.",3197.8,3207.4,{"idx":3071,"utterance_id":3072,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3073,"start_s":3074,"end_s":3075,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},441,"69210","It was he who preached... Not in favor of the generals, the millionaires, the men, the owners of the temple.",3208.48,3216.1,{"idx":3077,"utterance_id":3078,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3079,"start_s":3080,"end_s":3081,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},442,"69211","On the contrary, he was there on the side of the sinner, the prostitute, in that case, the homeless people of that time.",3216.16,3224.52,{"idx":3083,"utterance_id":3084,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3085,"start_s":3086,"end_s":3087,"word_count":180,"indexable":13},443,"69212","So, this thing of faith, of what I understand as humanity... This is much closer to President Lula's figure than any other president.",3225.92,3236.44,{"idx":3089,"utterance_id":3090,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3091,"start_s":3092,"end_s":3093,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},444,"69213","This is something that needs to be stated.",3236.48,3238.02,{"idx":3095,"utterance_id":3096,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3097,"start_s":3098,"end_s":3099,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},445,"69214","But what it brought me was a great learning about how you can deal with different people.",3238.08,3246.24,{"idx":3101,"utterance_id":3102,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3103,"start_s":3104,"end_s":3105,"word_count":169,"topic_slug":269,"topic_label":270,"target_id":3106,"target_proposition":3107,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":3108,"indexable":150},446,"69215","And I think maybe this experience I will bring to the 3%, 4% of independents that we need to win in the space of São Paulo.",3246.32,3254.44,"e21d336f-5176-489e-a457-9bec8c6415cf","win votes from undecided and independent voters","Says she will seek the 3–4% of independent voters in São Paulo.",{"idx":3110,"utterance_id":3111,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3112,"start_s":3113,"end_s":3114,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},447,"69216","I know what my role is as a pre-candidate for the Senate.",3254.82,3258.46,{"idx":3116,"utterance_id":3117,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3118,"start_s":3119,"end_s":3120,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},448,"69217","for President Lula's candidacy.",3258.96,3260.6,{"idx":3122,"utterance_id":3123,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3124,"start_s":3125,"end_s":3126,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},449,"69218","I know what I have to do.",3260.74,3261.74,{"idx":3128,"utterance_id":3129,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3130,"start_s":3131,"end_s":3132,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},450,"69219","I know who I have to dialogue with and what speech I have to make.",3262.12,3265.1,{"idx":3134,"utterance_id":3135,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3136,"start_s":3137,"end_s":3138,"word_count":303,"topic_slug":677,"topic_label":678,"target_id":3139,"target_proposition":3140,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":3141,"indexable":150},451,"69220","Which is always the discourse of sincerity, to present myself as someone who thinks differently from President Lula on some issues, but that what unites me with President Lula's government is infinitely greater than what separates us.",3265.48,3277.46,"aa489cb9-85ab-486f-8bce-b6ea5959a211","support President Lula's candidacy on priority issues","States she knows her role in the candidacy and that unity is greater than differences.",{"idx":3143,"utterance_id":3144,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3145,"start_s":3146,"end_s":3147,"word_count":319,"indexable":13},452,"69221","One issue or another that the media seized on that said it wasn't exactly what I said, but there it is, the real issue is that many people think that no, demarcation of indigenous land is about giving and removing those who are there.",3277.82,3287.86,{"idx":3149,"utterance_id":3150,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3151,"start_s":3152,"end_s":3153,"word_count":169,"indexable":13},453,"69222","And with that you will, without compensating, with that it may even be ideal, it would be ideal, but in practice the theory is another.",3288.7,3294.7,{"idx":3155,"utterance_id":3156,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3157,"start_s":3158,"end_s":3159,"word_count":186,"topic_slug":2522,"topic_label":2523,"target_id":3160,"target_proposition":3161,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":3162,"indexable":150},454,"69223","You will take another 30 years and you will not be able to settle, give land to the indigenous community if you do not expropriate those who have peaceful possession.",3294.74,3302.62,"9c97e87f-811b-4f1d-ac70-57ff6bce3c98","expropriate and compensate good-faith occupants to enable demarcations","States that, without expropriating landholders, it would take 30 years to settle communities.",{"idx":3164,"utterance_id":3165,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3166,"start_s":3167,"end_s":3168,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},455,"69224","So, this dialogue of balance, I will have to have.",3302.98,3306.68,{"idx":3170,"utterance_id":3171,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3172,"start_s":3173,"end_s":3174,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},456,"69225","And President Lula, he is a man of balance.",3306.82,3309.02,{"idx":3176,"utterance_id":3177,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3178,"start_s":3179,"end_s":3180,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},457,"69226","He is a man who governs with different people within his government, with the National Congress.",3309.42,3315,{"idx":3182,"utterance_id":3183,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3184,"start_s":3185,"end_s":3186,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},458,"69227","with those who think differently.",3315.12,3316.3,{"idx":3188,"utterance_id":3189,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3190,"start_s":3191,"end_s":3192,"word_count":523,"topic_slug":3193,"topic_label":3194,"target_id":3195,"target_proposition":3196,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":3197,"indexable":150},459,"69228","So, he is speaking with industry, with agribusiness, we are forgetting the importance of industry here in the state of São Paulo, which is very strong, how much the industry was positively served by the government with the tax reform, which is the mother of industry, with the fight against Trump's tariffs, because São Paulo's heavy industry... is being impacted, with the defense of our sovereignty.",3316.66,3341.52,"reforma-fiscal","Fiscal Reform","ad1b9d5c-6396-46d4-993c-59cfc459b6bd","implement tax reform that benefits industry","Praises the tax reform as a positive measure for industry in São Paulo.",{"idx":3199,"utterance_id":3200,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3201,"start_s":3202,"end_s":3203,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},460,"69229","So, I think that's my role.",3341.82,3343.36,{"idx":3205,"utterance_id":3206,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3207,"start_s":3208,"end_s":3209,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},461,"69230","I think people, mutually, when they live very close, change each other.",3344.4,3349.34,{"idx":3211,"utterance_id":3212,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3213,"start_s":3214,"end_s":3215,"word_count":192,"indexable":13},462,"69231","What I would only like to leave as a legacy, as someone who is not from the left, is that perhaps, it may be lacking... History will have to write it one day.",3350.22,3360.06,{"idx":3217,"utterance_id":3218,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3219,"start_s":3220,"end_s":3221,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},463,"69232","I think we have three great figures.",3360.1,3361.94,{"idx":3223,"utterance_id":3224,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3225,"start_s":3226,"end_s":3227,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},464,"69233","We have Getúlio Vargas, very clearly, in the figure of the workers' president, because of all the labor rights.",3362,3368.32,{"idx":3229,"utterance_id":3230,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3231,"start_s":3232,"end_s":3233,"word_count":107,"indexable":13},465,"69234","JK, as that great visionary in defense, is also part of Brazilian sovereignty.",3368.64,3374.28,{"idx":3235,"utterance_id":3236,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3237,"start_s":3238,"end_s":3239,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},466,"69235","JK was also a revolutionary — they are great figures.",3374.56,3378.14,{"idx":3241,"utterance_id":3242,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3243,"start_s":3244,"end_s":3245,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},467,"69236","And you can't help but put Lula at that level.",3378.54,3381.06,{"idx":3247,"utterance_id":3248,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3249,"start_s":3250,"end_s":3251,"word_count":124,"indexable":13},468,"69237","And I think that history... that will be told, and I said that in my hometown, at the closing of a cycle.",3381.4,3388.28,{"idx":3253,"utterance_id":3254,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3255,"start_s":3256,"end_s":3257,"word_count":335,"indexable":13},469,"69238","There, I said that God might enlighten President Lula, that history might recount, beyond everything that is being told, that it could write the greatness of his soul; I told him that I think that is what President Lula represents.",3388.34,3403.02,{"idx":3259,"utterance_id":3260,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3261,"start_s":3262,"end_s":3263,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},470,"69239","Again, I have... different thinking on some issues, but what unites us is infinitely greater.",3403.08,3408.76,{"idx":3265,"utterance_id":3266,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3267,"start_s":3268,"end_s":3269,"word_count":74,"indexable":13},471,"69240","I think it is this side that puts us side by side.",3408.84,3414.44,{"idx":3271,"utterance_id":3272,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3273,"start_s":3274,"end_s":3275,"word_count":387,"topic_slug":832,"topic_label":833,"target_id":3276,"target_proposition":3277,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":3278,"indexable":150},472,"69241","Democracy, sovereignty and the struggle for equality, which may be somewhat different from what is necessarily thought of as the left, but in what it is: equality of opportunity, reducing disparities, the social inequality that is shameful and stains our history, restoring our whole history to the human rights agenda, preventing backsliding.",3414.9,3438.36,"1efaed3b-3422-42f0-8fe7-43c30f1d5bb8","resist authoritarianism and fight dictatorship","Declares support for democracy, sovereignty and the fight for equality against setbacks.",{"idx":3280,"utterance_id":3281,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3282,"start_s":3283,"end_s":3284,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},473,"69242","I think that 100% the same as you.",3438.74,3440.92,{"idx":3286,"utterance_id":3287,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3288,"start_s":3289,"end_s":3290,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},474,"69243","That doesn't place me as someone on the left, but it also doesn't throw me into another camp.",3441.84,3447.08,{"idx":3292,"utterance_id":3293,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3294,"start_s":3295,"end_s":3296,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},475,"69244","So, I think that's kind of it.",3448.52,3449.78,{"idx":3298,"utterance_id":3299,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3300,"start_s":3301,"end_s":3302,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},476,"69245","I think time will tell what has changed.",3450.14,3452.64,{"idx":3304,"utterance_id":3305,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3306,"start_s":3307,"end_s":3308,"word_count":580,"indexable":13},477,"69246","What I can only be grateful for in this closing here, thanking Barão for the opportunity, for the opportunity that President Lula gave me in these four years to be able to serve Brazil through the Ministry of Planning and Budget, he gave me the key to the safe in my hand, knowing that in that regard I would act as a brake there, a wall, that was what he asked me to do, that I could be... some voice there, you know that voice from the story of Pinóquio?",3453.02,3475.9,{"idx":3310,"utterance_id":3311,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3312,"start_s":3313,"end_s":3314,"word_count":192,"indexable":13},478,"69247","I don't know if you remember the story of Pinóquio, which has the talking cricket saying, Pinóquio, don't go this way, go that way, that's not the path.",3476.22,3482.78,{"idx":3316,"utterance_id":3317,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3318,"start_s":3319,"end_s":3320,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},479,"69248","So, I think it was a mutual growth and President Lula is very generous.",3483.12,3488.42,{"idx":3322,"utterance_id":3323,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3324,"start_s":3325,"end_s":3326,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":3327,"topic_label":3328,"target_id":3329,"target_proposition":3330,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":3331,"indexable":150},480,"69249","And now I come to fulfill a mission indeed — my mission is, and he knows it: my political project is to defend democracy, to prevent backsliding, to prevent the Bolsonaro family from being able to regain power — that's project number one.",3489.02,3503.82,"contestacoes-eleitorais","Electoral Challenges","f5034db4-d2af-4d8f-bdad-571a8f40f246","prevent the Bolsonaro family from returning to power","Explicitly states that her political project is to prevent the return of the Bolsonaro family.",{"idx":3333,"utterance_id":3334,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3335,"start_s":3336,"end_s":3337,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},481,"69250","And it's only for that reason that I accepted this mission.",3504.26,3506.44,{"idx":3339,"utterance_id":3340,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3341,"start_s":3342,"end_s":3343,"word_count":264,"indexable":13},482,"69251","I was ready to go back home in 2022, when I ran for President of the Republic, in a decision I knew I would lose, but I wanted to be my voice, a female voice against the Bolsonaro government.",3506.7,3517.68,{"idx":3345,"utterance_id":3346,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3347,"start_s":3348,"end_s":3349,"word_count":114,"indexable":13},483,"69252","And later, now, at a time when Brazil needs it so much, I could not fail to carry out the mission.",3518.6,3523.98,{"idx":3351,"utterance_id":3352,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3353,"start_s":3354,"end_s":3355,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},484,"69253","So, that is my purpose.",3524.1,3526.06,{"idx":3357,"utterance_id":3358,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3359,"start_s":3360,"end_s":3361,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},485,"69254","Very comfortable in this role, like this.",3527.06,3529.38,{"idx":3363,"utterance_id":3364,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3365,"start_s":3366,"end_s":3367,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},486,"69255","I think I didn't give anything, right?",3529.86,3531.66,{"idx":3369,"utterance_id":3370,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3371,"start_s":3372,"end_s":3373,"word_count":20,"indexable":13},487,"69256","We evolve in some things, in others we devolve, but I think that's life, right?",3531.74,3536.72,{"idx":3375,"utterance_id":3376,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3377,"start_s":3378,"end_s":3379,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},488,"69257","After all, it's almost 30 years of public life as well.",3536.92,3539.36,{"idx":3381,"utterance_id":3382,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3383,"start_s":3384,"end_s":3385,"word_count":319,"topic_slug":3386,"topic_label":3387,"target_id":3388,"target_proposition":3389,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":384,"rationale":3390,"indexable":150},489,"69258","And my history shows, well, I was the first female mayor of my city, I was the mayor who built the most public housing, who created the most jobs and income through industrialization, who did the most drainage and basic sanitation for the neediest families.",3539.78,3552.26,"emprego-e-assistencia-social","Employment and Social Assistance","abbc4e4a-1a85-4a82-934d-8a74d96ad384","expand social housing and create jobs through industrialization","Claims to have built more public housing and created jobs as mayor.",{"idx":3392,"utterance_id":3393,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3394,"start_s":3395,"end_s":3396,"word_count":81,"indexable":13},490,"69259","So, then, my commitment as a woman is to the social.",3552.32,3556.44,{"idx":3398,"utterance_id":3399,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3400,"start_s":3401,"end_s":3402,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":3403,"topic_label":3404,"target_id":3405,"target_proposition":3406,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":3407,"indexable":150},491,"69260","But, in my view, you don't pursue social policy without fiscal responsibility.",3557.74,3560.36,"politica-fiscal-e-social","Fiscal and Social Policy","2c3a9ad1-05c6-41e6-ae2f-566ba31f9452","Combine social policies with fiscal responsibility","States that 'você não faz social sem fiscal' and links fiscal policy to inflation and food.",{"idx":3409,"utterance_id":3410,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3411,"start_s":3412,"end_s":3413,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},492,"69261","So, you have to work.",3560.44,3561.24,{"idx":3415,"utterance_id":3416,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3417,"start_s":3418,"end_s":3419,"word_count":29,"indexable":13},493,"69262","They are not antagonistic.",3561.38,3562.46,{"idx":3421,"utterance_id":3422,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3423,"start_s":3424,"end_s":3425,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},494,"69263","Fiscal responsibility helps lower inflation and interest rates, and enables you to have affordable food on the table.",3562.86,3568.18,{"idx":3427,"utterance_id":3428,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3429,"start_s":3430,"end_s":3431,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},495,"69264","So, it's all of that mixed together a bit, Tiago.",3568.44,3570.68,{"idx":3433,"utterance_id":3434,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3435,"start_s":3436,"end_s":3437,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},496,"69265","I'm stalling, stalling, because the hardest question was left for last, which is yours, and which I still don't know.",3571.02,3575.82,{"idx":3439,"utterance_id":3440,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3441,"start_s":3442,"end_s":3443,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},497,"69266","Time will tell what this coexistence will be.",3576.38,3579.84,{"idx":3445,"utterance_id":3446,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3447,"start_s":3448,"end_s":3449,"word_count":69,"indexable":13},498,"69267","And the President having allowed me to be so close.",3581.58,3583.98,{"idx":3451,"utterance_id":3452,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3453,"start_s":3454,"end_s":3455,"word_count":36,"indexable":13},499,"69268","I think he trusted me.",3584.06,3584.94,{"idx":3457,"utterance_id":3458,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3459,"start_s":3460,"end_s":3461,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":3462,"topic_label":3463,"target_id":3464,"target_proposition":3465,"stance":218,"stance_confidence":219,"rationale":3466,"indexable":13},500,"69269","I think he saw truth in me, he saw transparency.",3585.58,3588.14,"etica-e-integridade-publica","Ethics and Public Integrity","332d1db0-8b5c-4d3f-aaa2-f2e366935c4b","promote integrity and transparency in public administration","Reports that someone else perceived transparency in her, without proposing explicit action.",{"idx":3468,"utterance_id":3469,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3470,"start_s":3471,"end_s":3472,"word_count":228,"indexable":13},501,"69270","I had the courage to say, president, I don't think that's the way, I don't agree — sometimes he agreed with me, most of the time he didn't, but anyway, I think he saw that.",3588.42,3596.14,{"idx":3474,"utterance_id":3475,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3476,"start_s":3477,"end_s":3478,"word_count":426,"indexable":13},502,"69271","I'll close here, I also have an event at 7 p.m. outside of here, it's at FGV with women, and traffic in São Paulo is kind of crazy, in Bahia I'm relatively close, but President Lula paid one of the... greatest tributes, in his simplicity, one of the greatest tributes I've received in my life.",3597.44,3614.98,{"idx":3480,"utterance_id":3481,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3482,"start_s":3483,"end_s":3484,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},503,"69272","And I value that very much.",3615.82,3616.96,{"idx":3486,"utterance_id":3487,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3488,"start_s":3489,"end_s":3490,"word_count":92,"indexable":13},504,"69273","I asked him why he wanted me for this mission; there are so many people, right?",3617.5,3620.56,{"idx":3492,"utterance_id":3493,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3494,"start_s":3495,"end_s":3496,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":3462,"topic_label":3463,"target_id":3464,"target_proposition":3465,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":3497,"indexable":150},505,"69274","He said, 'Simone, politics needs decent people.'",3620.72,3624.12,"Endorses the idea that 'a política está precisando de gente de bem'.",{"idx":3499,"utterance_id":3500,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3501,"start_s":3502,"end_s":3503,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},506,"69275","And I said exactly that.",3624.96,3626.02,{"idx":3505,"utterance_id":3506,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3507,"start_s":3508,"end_s":3509,"word_count":101,"indexable":13},507,"69276","I said, look, you have people much closer, with ideological vision and such.",3626.06,3629.8,{"idx":3511,"utterance_id":3512,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3513,"start_s":3514,"end_s":3515,"word_count":49,"indexable":13},508,"69277","And he meant exactly that.",3630.36,3632.82,{"idx":3517,"utterance_id":3518,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3519,"start_s":3520,"end_s":3521,"word_count":27,"indexable":13},509,"69278","There are decent people everywhere, right?",3633.18,3634.72,{"idx":3523,"utterance_id":3524,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3525,"start_s":3526,"end_s":3527,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},510,"69279","No, not in the extremes.",3635.08,3637.04,{"idx":3529,"utterance_id":3530,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3531,"start_s":3532,"end_s":3533,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},511,"69280","But, anyway.",3637.44,3637.86,{"idx":3535,"utterance_id":3536,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3537,"start_s":3538,"end_s":3539,"word_count":142,"topic_slug":3462,"topic_label":3463,"target_id":3464,"target_proposition":3465,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":156,"rationale":3540,"indexable":150},512,"69281","And then he gave one of the most beautiful tributes, he said, 'Simone, politics needs decent people, and you have something that is missing in politics, which is character.'",3638.26,3647.24,"Repeats a compliment about character and agrees that this is lacking in politics.",{"idx":3542,"utterance_id":3543,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3544,"start_s":3545,"end_s":3546,"word_count":538,"topic_slug":3462,"topic_label":3463,"target_id":3464,"target_proposition":3465,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":148,"rationale":3547,"indexable":150},513,"69282","I think that's what he meant, and this is the point: this is the integrity to defend what you believe in, hurt whoever it hurts, I'm not here to... You see, the majority of the answers I gave, I'm sure I didn't please everyone, I could have given other answers that would have pleased the audience here at Barão, but that's not it... Being a good politician is being transparent and truthful.",3647.92,3671.04,"States that being transparent and truthful is being a good politician (explicit defense).",{"idx":3549,"utterance_id":3550,"speaker_name":95,"speaker_slug":96,"text":3551,"start_s":3552,"end_s":3553,"word_count":186,"topic_slug":3462,"topic_label":3463,"target_id":3464,"target_proposition":3465,"stance":147,"stance_confidence":509,"rationale":3554,"indexable":150},514,"69283","And that's what I try to do with all my heart, with all my soul, with all the love I have for the Brazilian people.",3671.38,3676.46,"Declares a personal commitment to act with transparency and love for the people.",{"idx":3556,"utterance_id":3557,"speaker_name":8,"text":3558,"start_s":3559,"end_s":3560,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},515,"69284","Thank you very 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