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for.",1133.9,1141.06,{"idx":1346,"utterance_id":1347,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1348,"start_s":1349,"end_s":1350,"word_count":49,"topic_slug":1317,"topic_label":1318,"target_id":1319,"target_proposition":1320,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":998,"rationale":1351,"indexable":232},182,"185765","We solved historic problems, like Praça da Bandeira — in fact, I think this week marks ten years since the inauguration of the piscinão at Praça da Bandeira.",1141.74,1149.96,"Claims the inauguration of a piscinão and macrodrainage as concrete accomplishments.",{"idx":1353,"utterance_id":1354,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1355,"start_s":1356,"end_s":1357,"word_count":201,"indexable":179},183,"185766","It wasn't just Praça da Bandeira; throughout the Tijuca region we implemented large‑scale drainage systems for the entire Baixada.",1150.28,1157.02,{"idx":1359,"utterance_id":1360,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1361,"start_s":1362,"end_s":1363,"word_count":187,"indexable":179},184,"185767","Jacarepaguá, right?",1157.68,1159.26,{"idx":1365,"utterance_id":1366,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1367,"start_s":1368,"end_s":1369,"word_count":239,"indexable":179},185,"185768","And other things too, but I'm speaking here of the major ones.",1159.6,1163.46,{"idx":1371,"utterance_id":1372,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1373,"start_s":1374,"end_s":1375,"word_count":444,"topic_slug":1317,"topic_label":1318,"target_id":1319,"target_proposition":1320,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":1376,"rationale":1377,"indexable":232},186,"185769","And there are two projects still in the city that, thank God, I managed to leave with funds guaranteed, allocated, and works initiated: Jardim Maravilha, over in Guaratiba, and the Rio Acari basin, right?",1163.98,1177.5,0.82,"States they secured funding and started works for the Acari River basin.",{"idx":1379,"utterance_id":1380,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1381,"start_s":1382,"end_s":1383,"word_count":243,"indexable":179},187,"185770","Which is also not a simple solution.",1177.56,1179.6,{"idx":1385,"utterance_id":1386,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1387,"start_s":1388,"end_s":1389,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1392,"target_proposition":1393,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":302,"rationale":1394,"indexable":232},188,"185771","There are other important drainage challenges in the city of Rio de Janeiro that Mayor Cavalieri probably won't be able to resolve.",1180.3,1188.2,"gestao-de-enchentes-e-infraestrutura-urbana","Flood Management & Urban Infrastructure","ba7ad818-3791-46df-a0cc-12dd6da0f7ee","prioritize investment in infrastructure to prevent floods","Criticizes the mayor's inaction and points to the need for a structural solution.",{"idx":1396,"utterance_id":1397,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1398,"start_s":1399,"end_s":1400,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1392,"target_proposition":1393,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":319,"rationale":1401,"indexable":232},189,"185772","Now, the investments in large‑scale drainage and heavy slope containment in the city of Rio de Janeiro happened during my administrations.",1188.24,1200.06,"Claims to have made heavy investments during their governments.",{"idx":11,"utterance_id":1403,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1404,"start_s":1405,"end_s":1406,"word_count":243,"indexable":179},"185773","And that's that — a whole resilience system.",1200.72,1203.86,{"idx":1408,"utterance_id":1409,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1410,"start_s":1411,"end_s":1412,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1413,"target_proposition":1414,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":1098,"rationale":1415,"indexable":232},191,"185774","Rio was the city that brought to Brazil the concept — operations, alarms, preparing the population — this culture of saying, look, today we won't have classes.",1204.44,1216.74,"a8d342b4-877e-4285-9d87-1511cbafd4f3","implement early warning systems and prepare the population for climate risks","Says they introduced an operations center and a culture of alerts.",{"idx":1417,"utterance_id":1418,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1419,"start_s":1420,"end_s":1421,"word_count":290,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1413,"target_proposition":1414,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":254,"rationale":1422,"indexable":232},192,"185775","Today we'll say: leave work earlier, pay attention, don't travel across the city.",1217.24,1222.7,"Gives an explicit example of orders for the population during climatic events.",{"idx":1424,"utterance_id":1425,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1426,"start_s":1427,"end_s":1428,"word_count":394,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1413,"target_proposition":1414,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":1376,"rationale":1429,"indexable":232},193,"185776","This wasn't common in Brazil until 2010, when we introduced the operations center and that whole culture — bases of support — which saved many lives.",1222.74,1233.2,"Attributes lives saved to the operations center that was implemented.",{"idx":1431,"utterance_id":1432,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1433,"start_s":1434,"end_s":1435,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1392,"target_proposition":1393,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":230,"rationale":1436,"indexable":232},194,"185777","So, a resident of the mountain region can be sure that I always pursue structural and complete solutions to problems.",1233.6,1244.36,"Declares a commitment to seek a structural solution for the mountain range.",{"idx":1438,"utterance_id":1439,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1440,"start_s":1441,"end_s":1442,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1392,"target_proposition":1393,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":254,"rationale":1443,"indexable":232},195,"185778","The funds I secured via PAC for the Rio Acari basin are sufficient to truly solve the problem; it's not just a little dredging.",1245.04,1256.94,"States they secured resources via PAC for the Acari basin.",{"idx":1445,"utterance_id":1446,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1447,"start_s":1448,"end_s":1449,"word_count":490,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1392,"target_proposition":1393,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":230,"rationale":1450,"indexable":232},196,"185779","We've done a lot of that — cleaning, trying to improve here and there — but it's an immense amount of resources; it will take some time; these are complex works, since there is a lot of occupation on the riverbanks there, but we'll seek the resources for the solution.",1257.52,1272.12,"Says they will seek funds for complex works in the region.",{"idx":56,"utterance_id":1452,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1453,"start_s":1454,"end_s":1455,"word_count":880,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1392,"target_proposition":1393,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":1376,"rationale":1456,"indexable":232},"185780","A complete solution for the mountain region — we can't remain like this, and I realize that; I've been traveling a lot through the mountain region, especially Petrópolis, and I know this history well. I remember in 1996, when I was sub‑mayor of Jacarepaguá, there was a major flood; people are very traumatized, very scared — every time there's a slightly heavier rain, many lives were lost there. So we're going to provide the solution. In fact, tomorrow morning I'm going; today I'm going to Petrópolis, and tomorrow morning I'll be visiting some of these necessary interventions, and I guarantee that we'll make the project viable, which is a huge undertaking.",1272.56,1307.6,"Promises to visit Petrópolis and enable projects for a structural solution.",{"idx":1458,"utterance_id":1459,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1460,"start_s":1461,"end_s":1462,"word_count":187,"indexable":179},198,"185781","That too.",1307.64,1308.12,{"idx":1464,"utterance_id":1465,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1466,"start_s":1467,"end_s":1468,"word_count":290,"indexable":179},199,"185782","André, if you ask at the Rio City Hall, look — in my administrations, there was a problem.",1308.7,1314.02,{"idx":1470,"utterance_id":1471,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1472,"start_s":1473,"end_s":1474,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},200,"185783","Well, I have a project.",1314.12,1315.14,{"idx":1476,"utterance_id":1477,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1478,"start_s":1479,"end_s":1480,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},201,"185784","A project with an estimated cost and a budget — it's huge.",1315.38,1318.56,{"idx":1482,"utterance_id":1483,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1484,"start_s":1485,"end_s":1486,"word_count":9,"indexable":179},202,"185785","You see, in the state's case, you say, 'I want to build the bypass road in Friburgo,' something I've heard for ages.",1318.58,1326.1,{"idx":1488,"utterance_id":1489,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1490,"start_s":1491,"end_s":1492,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},203,"185786","The other day I went to check — how much does it cost?",1326.86,1328.38,{"idx":1494,"utterance_id":1495,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1496,"start_s":1497,"end_s":1498,"word_count":196,"indexable":179},204,"185787","There is no project.",1328.56,1329.28,{"idx":1500,"utterance_id":1501,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1502,"start_s":1503,"end_s":1504,"word_count":243,"topic_slug":1505,"topic_label":1506,"target_id":1507,"target_proposition":1508,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":998,"rationale":1509,"indexable":232},205,"185788","Metro Line 3 doesn't have a project.",1329.96,1331.76,"mobilidade-urbana-e-logistica","Urban Mobility and Logistics","63bfa8f1-457b-4e21-8fb7-4b7621e32de4","develop and execute projects for Metro Line 3","Criticizes the absence of a project for line 3 and suggests developing one.",{"idx":1511,"utterance_id":1512,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1513,"start_s":1514,"end_s":1515,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},206,"185789","Those people didn't even have the capacity to do that.",1332.36,1334.42,{"idx":1517,"utterance_id":1518,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1519,"start_s":1520,"end_s":1521,"word_count":297,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1392,"target_proposition":1393,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":998,"rationale":1522,"indexable":232},207,"185790","There is no project for what's needed to contain slopes in the mountain region.",1335.08,1339.56,"Denounces the lack of containment projects in the mountain region.",{"idx":1524,"utterance_id":1525,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1526,"start_s":1527,"end_s":1528,"word_count":313,"topic_slug":1529,"topic_label":1530,"target_id":1531,"target_proposition":1532,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":230,"rationale":1533,"indexable":232},208,"185791","Therefore — another detail to note — in my four administrations, the projects were always completed.",1340.38,1349.6,"desenvolvimento-regional-e-infraestrutura","Regional Development and Infrastructure","34d45353-4704-4015-a63b-d6c81ecaef52","ensure planning and delivery of infrastructure projects","Claims a track record of starting and completing projects in their administrations.",{"idx":1535,"utterance_id":1536,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1537,"start_s":1538,"end_s":1539,"word_count":234,"indexable":179},209,"185792","When we start something, we see it through.",1349.62,1351.86,{"idx":1541,"utterance_id":1542,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1543,"start_s":1544,"end_s":1545,"word_count":327,"indexable":179},210,"185793","The only major flood I had during my administrations was in 2010; it was one year into the administration.",1352.46,1358.96,{"idx":1547,"utterance_id":1548,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1549,"start_s":1550,"end_s":1551,"word_count":272,"topic_slug":1552,"topic_label":1553,"target_id":1554,"target_proposition":1555,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":1556,"rationale":1557,"indexable":232},211,"185794","All the people who were left homeless received apartments from Minha Casa Minha Vida.",1359.78,1364.4,"politica-de-habitacao","Housing policy","adf70ec1-3992-4cce-86d7-9760033db029","ensure dignified resettlement for relocated families",0.84,"Claims that displaced people received apartments through Minha Casa Minha Vida.",{"idx":1559,"utterance_id":1560,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1561,"start_s":1562,"end_s":1563,"word_count":234,"topic_slug":1552,"topic_label":1553,"target_id":1554,"target_proposition":1555,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":998,"rationale":1564,"indexable":179},212,"185795","They still haven't done that in the mountain region.",1364.46,1366,"Criticizes that resettlement has still not been done in the mountain region.",{"idx":1566,"utterance_id":1567,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1568,"start_s":1569,"end_s":1570,"word_count":305,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1392,"target_proposition":1393,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":230,"rationale":1571,"indexable":232},213,"185796","We mapped the geological risks of all the slopes of the Tijuca massif, where it was possible.",1366.74,1374.02,"Claims to have mapped geological risks on the slopes of the Tijuca massif.",{"idx":1573,"utterance_id":1574,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1575,"start_s":1576,"end_s":1577,"word_count":313,"topic_slug":1390,"topic_label":1391,"target_id":1392,"target_proposition":1393,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":254,"rationale":1578,"indexable":232},214,"185797","Where containment work was possible, it was done; where it wasn't possible, people were relocated from their homes.",1374.04,1381.18,"States that containment works were carried out and residents relocated when necessary.",{"idx":1580,"utterance_id":1581,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1582,"start_s":1583,"end_s":1584,"word_count":272,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":1585,"target_proposition":1586,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":302,"rationale":1587,"indexable":232},215,"185798","So it's management, it's a bit — what do I always say?",1381.24,1385.6,"7f872646-51d4-4416-ae4f-59572bec7d88","exercise direct and continuous supervision over secretaries and directors","Defends 'olho do dono' and constant oversight of the administration.",{"idx":1589,"utterance_id":1590,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1591,"start_s":1592,"end_s":1593,"word_count":217,"indexable":179},216,"185799","It's a 'bigo' on the counter.",1386.08,1387.36,{"idx":1595,"utterance_id":1596,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1597,"start_s":1598,"end_s":1599,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},217,"185800","It's the owner's watchful eye.",1388.08,1389.1,{"idx":1601,"utterance_id":1602,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1603,"start_s":1604,"end_s":1605,"word_count":217,"indexable":179},218,"185801","These people don't want to work.",1389.74,1391.38,{"idx":1607,"utterance_id":1608,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1609,"start_s":1610,"end_s":1611,"word_count":272,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":1585,"target_proposition":1586,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":302,"rationale":1612,"indexable":232},219,"185802","I delegate, never the authority; I delegate, but I never take my eyes off them.",1392,1397.06,"Says they will delegate but will keep a close eye on the secretaries.",{"idx":1614,"utterance_id":1615,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1616,"start_s":1617,"end_s":1618,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},220,"185803","I'm always following up with my secretaries and the directors.",1397.12,1399.32,{"idx":1620,"utterance_id":1621,"speaker_name":176,"text":1622,"start_s":1623,"end_s":1624,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},221,"185804","Is Alexandre Pinho dying to ask about public security?",1399.36,1402.48,{"idx":1626,"utterance_id":1627,"speaker_name":176,"text":1628,"start_s":1629,"end_s":1630,"word_count":43,"indexable":179},222,"185805","He's eager, but I need to — you mentioned tracks, and I need to talk about the urban train, which is a commitment I made here to our audience.",1402.68,1410,{"idx":447,"utterance_id":1632,"speaker_name":176,"text":1633,"start_s":1634,"end_s":1635,"word_count":239,"indexable":179},"185806","Supervia is over; post‑Supervia, there is a new contract model for the urban train.",1411.36,1417.08,{"idx":1637,"utterance_id":1638,"speaker_name":176,"text":1639,"start_s":1640,"end_s":1641,"word_count":327,"indexable":179},224,"185807","Do you approve that model, since it was made at the end of Cláudio Castro's administration, amid many crises?",1417.72,1423.86,{"idx":1643,"utterance_id":1644,"speaker_name":176,"text":1645,"start_s":1646,"end_s":1647,"word_count":217,"indexable":179},225,"185808","Do you approve this model?",1423.88,1425.14,{"idx":1649,"utterance_id":1650,"speaker_name":176,"text":1651,"start_s":1652,"end_s":1653,"word_count":196,"indexable":179},226,"185809","Is this the model?",1425.2,1425.74,{"idx":1655,"utterance_id":1656,"speaker_name":176,"text":1657,"start_s":1658,"end_s":1659,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},227,"185810","Or do you intend to review it if you take office?",1425.76,1427.56,{"idx":1661,"utterance_id":1662,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1663,"start_s":1664,"end_s":1665,"word_count":187,"indexable":179},228,"185811","We'll review it.",1427.6,1428.04,{"idx":17,"utterance_id":1667,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1668,"start_s":1669,"end_s":1670,"word_count":239,"topic_slug":1505,"topic_label":1506,"target_id":1671,"target_proposition":1672,"stance":229,"stance_confidence":230,"rationale":1673,"indexable":232},"185812","I think this model was also the result of a judicial decision.",1428.06,1430.7,"5d186cb1-e172-4747-967f-404213d7e596","adopt the new contract model for the urban train","Declares they will 'rever, repensar' the model implemented by the previous government.",{"idx":1675,"utterance_id":1676,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1677,"start_s":1678,"end_s":1679,"word_count":394,"indexable":179},230,"185813","Given the inability of Castro's government — eight years of Castro's administration, which now they want to continue with Douglas Ruas — to resolve it, it ended up being decided by the courts.",1431.32,1443.58,{"idx":1681,"utterance_id":1682,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1683,"start_s":1684,"end_s":1685,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},231,"185814","An understanding was stitched together.",1444.02,1445.82,{"idx":1687,"utterance_id":1688,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1689,"start_s":1690,"end_s":1691,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},232,"185815","So we'll review it, rethink how this will happen.",1446.18,1448.72,{"idx":1693,"utterance_id":1694,"speaker_name":176,"text":1695,"start_s":1696,"end_s":1697,"word_count":223,"indexable":179},233,"185816","Do you think this model is bad?",1448.74,1449.78,{"idx":1699,"utterance_id":1700,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1701,"start_s":1702,"end_s":1703,"word_count":427,"indexable":179},234,"185817","Look, again, there are certain factors: for example, when I returned to City Hall after the tragedy of Crivella's administration — the destroyed BRTs — it wasn't necessarily in my plans to create MOB Rio, right?",1450.12,1465.1,{"idx":1705,"utterance_id":1706,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1707,"start_s":1708,"end_s":1709,"word_count":313,"indexable":179},235,"185818","I acted as the manager I am, dealt with the circumstances, worked and said, I'll fix it — it's resolved.",1465.6,1472.78,{"idx":1711,"utterance_id":1712,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1141,"start_s":1713,"end_s":1714,"word_count":181,"indexable":179},236,"185819",1473.28,1473.44,{"idx":1716,"utterance_id":1717,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1718,"start_s":1719,"end_s":1720,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},237,"185820","We intervened first.",1473.7,1475.52,{"idx":1722,"utterance_id":1723,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1724,"start_s":1725,"end_s":1726,"word_count":305,"indexable":179},238,"185821","And all of this is a lot of work because, for example, the bus operators are powerful, right?",1476.24,1481.28,{"idx":1728,"utterance_id":1729,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1730,"start_s":1731,"end_s":1732,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},239,"185822","They obtain injunctions, hire the biggest law firms, right?",1481.4,1486.62,{"idx":1734,"utterance_id":1735,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1736,"start_s":1737,"end_s":1738,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},240,"185823","They create ongoing confusion.",1486.8,1488.6,{"idx":1740,"utterance_id":1741,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1742,"start_s":1743,"end_s":1744,"word_count":272,"indexable":179},241,"185824","So to break these structures requires a lot of dedication, a lot of management capacity.",1488.62,1495.82,{"idx":1746,"utterance_id":1747,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1748,"start_s":1749,"end_s":1750,"word_count":60,"indexable":179},242,"185825","My impression of the PL government in Rio, of Witzel Castro's administration — which now wants to continue with 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reais.",1555.44,1560.44,{"idx":1835,"utterance_id":1836,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1837,"start_s":1838,"end_s":1839,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},256,"185839","That's nothing.",1561.06,1562.5,{"idx":1841,"utterance_id":1842,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1843,"start_s":1844,"end_s":1845,"word_count":234,"indexable":179},257,"185840","It's a little more than what you lose.",1563.12,1565.86,{"idx":1847,"utterance_id":1848,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1849,"start_s":1850,"end_s":1851,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},258,"185841","And that these people didn't do over these years.",1566.6,1569.14,{"idx":1853,"utterance_id":1854,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1855,"start_s":1856,"end_s":1857,"word_count":272,"indexable":179},259,"185842","And it's a bit of that story that he didn't do it, he missed his chance.",1569.5,1572.44,{"idx":1859,"utterance_id":1860,"speaker_name":176,"text":1861,"start_s":1862,"end_s":1863,"word_count":290,"indexable":179},260,"185843","But just so I understand, is there a new contract, are there new contractors running the trains?",1572.7,1577.96,{"idx":1865,"utterance_id":1866,"speaker_name":176,"text":1867,"start_s":1868,"end_s":1869,"word_count":313,"indexable":179},261,"185844","Is there no problem on your part with stepping in and, if you don't like it, changing it or breaking it up?",1578.54,1583.58,{"idx":1871,"utterance_id":1872,"speaker_name":176,"text":1873,"start_s":1874,"end_s":1875,"word_count":187,"indexable":179},262,"185845","Look.",1583.6,1583.86,{"idx":1877,"utterance_id":1878,"speaker_name":176,"text":1879,"start_s":1880,"end_s":1881,"word_count":187,"indexable":179},263,"185846","you don't.",1584.82,1585.14,{"idx":1883,"utterance_id":1884,"speaker_name":176,"text":1885,"start_s":1886,"end_s":1887,"word_count":297,"indexable":179},264,"185847","And of course the following: just one more thing to say, it's an important provocation.",1585.5,1588.4,{"idx":1889,"utterance_id":1890,"speaker_name":176,"text":1891,"start_s":1892,"end_s":1893,"word_count":43,"indexable":179},265,"185848","This contract, this arrangement was made during the administration of the transport secretary, especially Austin Reis, who is your supporter, brother of your running mate for governor.",1588.88,1598.2,{"idx":1895,"utterance_id":1896,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1897,"start_s":1898,"end_s":1899,"word_count":217,"indexable":179},266,"185849","With a court decision, right?",1598.4,1600.38,{"idx":1901,"utterance_id":1902,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1903,"start_s":1904,"end_s":1905,"word_count":313,"indexable":179},267,"185850","And therefore I don't have any commitments made with the previous government, whoever they were, right?",1600.62,1605.92,{"idx":1907,"utterance_id":1908,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1909,"start_s":1910,"end_s":1911,"word_count":272,"indexable":179},268,"185851","What I'm going to do is understand, go deeper — now, you always respect contracts.",1606.66,1612.38,{"idx":1913,"utterance_id":1914,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1915,"start_s":1916,"end_s":1917,"word_count":223,"indexable":179},269,"185852","For example, I'll say in advance.",1612.88,1614.22,{"idx":1919,"utterance_id":1920,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1921,"start_s":1922,"end_s":1923,"word_count":382,"topic_slug":1924,"topic_label":1925,"target_id":1926,"target_proposition":1927,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":254,"rationale":1928,"indexable":232},270,"185853","What's happening with the water and sewage concessionaires, especially in the interior, in the Baixada Fluminense, in the metropolitan region, is the 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done.",1632.3,1636.54,{"idx":1948,"utterance_id":1949,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1950,"start_s":1951,"end_s":1952,"word_count":243,"indexable":179},274,"185857","Now, can you step in, see if it's being restored?",1636.58,1641.28,{"idx":1954,"utterance_id":1955,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1956,"start_s":1957,"end_s":1958,"word_count":272,"indexable":179},275,"185858","Create the challenges, change how this thing operates — that's what I'm going to do.",1641.7,1647.62,{"idx":1960,"utterance_id":1961,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1962,"start_s":1963,"end_s":1964,"word_count":203,"topic_slug":1924,"topic_label":1925,"target_id":1965,"target_proposition":1966,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":230,"rationale":1967,"indexable":179},276,"185859","I did it with the buses.",1647.9,1648.8,"aa3b6a83-51c7-40c7-b5fd-f88c28740cbe","review and audit public and concession contracts","explains not nationalizing, but rebalancing concessions legally and 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right?",1671.14,1678.44,{"idx":1987,"utterance_id":1988,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1989,"start_s":1990,"end_s":1991,"word_count":339,"indexable":179},280,"185863","That took a lot of work, there was a judicial agreement, fights, fights that went to the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), the same thing regarding ticketing, right?",1678.76,1688.42,{"idx":1993,"utterance_id":1994,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":1995,"start_s":1996,"end_s":1997,"word_count":243,"indexable":179},281,"185864","All of this requires direction, knowing where you want to get to.",1688.58,1692.88,{"idx":1999,"utterance_id":2000,"speaker_name":176,"text":2001,"start_s":2002,"end_s":2003,"word_count":272,"indexable":179},282,"185865","Which is everything that this PL (Liberal Party) crowd from Rio doesn't know how to do.",1693.36,1695.28,{"idx":2005,"utterance_id":2006,"speaker_name":176,"text":2007,"start_s":2008,"end_s":2009,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},283,"185866","But then is there a problem in the relationship with CEDAI?",1695.3,1698.16,{"idx":2011,"utterance_id":2012,"speaker_name":176,"text":2013,"start_s":2014,"end_s":2015,"word_count":223,"indexable":179},284,"185867","Do you already foresee a problem?",1698.22,1699.52,{"idx":2017,"utterance_id":2018,"speaker_name":176,"text":2019,"start_s":2020,"end_s":2021,"word_count":208,"indexable":179},285,"185868","You said, I'm going to... 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Janeiro.",1774.28,1782.22,{"idx":2101,"utterance_id":2102,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2103,"start_s":2104,"end_s":2105,"word_count":243,"indexable":179},299,"185882","The most mafia-like were the bus crowd.",1783.88,1786.78,{"idx":2107,"utterance_id":2108,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2109,"start_s":2110,"end_s":2111,"word_count":313,"indexable":179},300,"185883","But it's not simple to grab some stunt and mount a confrontation within the rules.",1787.38,1793.64,{"idx":2113,"utterance_id":2114,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2115,"start_s":2116,"end_s":2117,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},301,"185884","I'm not one to create little scenes for social media.",1794.32,1797.7,{"idx":2119,"utterance_id":2120,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2121,"start_s":2122,"end_s":2123,"word_count":313,"indexable":179},302,"185885","I didn't go to the Linha Amarela toll with a tractor to smash the toll, because it achieves 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Rio de Janeiro.",1865.92,1873.62,{"idx":2177,"utterance_id":2178,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2179,"start_s":2180,"end_s":2181,"word_count":21,"indexable":179},311,"185894","In the same way that we ended the mafias of the city government, we are going to end these mafias of the state of Rio de Janeiro.",1873.64,1880.2,{"idx":2183,"utterance_id":2184,"speaker_name":176,"text":2185,"start_s":2186,"end_s":2187,"word_count":295,"indexable":179},312,"185895","Before we get into public security, candidate, there are still many listeners here asking about urban mobility,",1880.5,1888.14,{"idx":2189,"utterance_id":2190,"speaker_name":176,"text":2191,"start_s":2192,"end_s":2193,"word_count":181,"indexable":179},313,"185896","the",1888.18,1888.3,{"idx":2195,"utterance_id":2196,"speaker_name":176,"text":2197,"start_s":2198,"end_s":2199,"word_count":234,"indexable":179},314,"185897","trains, asking what your projects 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the vehicle tunnel.",1977.7,1984.78,{"idx":2284,"utterance_id":2285,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2286,"start_s":2287,"end_s":2288,"word_count":508,"indexable":179},328,"185911","It's possible to do; I've heard a lot in my life, 'ah, Eduardo Pai won't be able to tear down the Perimetral,' 'ah, he won't be able to do the BRT,' 'won't be able to do the Transolímpica,' 'won't be able to do the Transbrasil, the Transoeste,' 'won't be able to do this, that.'",1985.34,1998,{"idx":2290,"utterance_id":2291,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2292,"start_s":2293,"end_s":2294,"word_count":297,"indexable":179},329,"185912","We delivered, we did it, it's possible; now you have to have, right, clarity, goals, mission and do 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to double the Saracoruna branch; it's not possible that the population of Caxias continues living under those circumstances.",2024.18,2029.94,{"idx":2315,"utterance_id":2316,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2317,"start_s":2318,"end_s":2319,"word_count":243,"indexable":179},333,"185916","The easiest is the SuperVia, okay folks?",2030.4,2032.06,{"idx":2321,"utterance_id":2322,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2323,"start_s":2324,"end_s":2325,"word_count":243,"indexable":179},334,"185917","Because it's already implemented, it's already implemented, it's possible to do.",2032.08,2035.72,{"idx":2327,"utterance_id":2328,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2329,"start_s":2330,"end_s":2331,"word_count":223,"indexable":179},335,"185918","Of course, it costs money, there are operational 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right?",2073.14,2078.8,{"idx":2392,"utterance_id":2393,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":2394,"start_s":2395,"end_s":2396,"word_count":496,"topic_slug":2397,"topic_label":2398,"target_id":2399,"target_proposition":2400,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":1376,"rationale":2401,"indexable":232},345,"185928","Unfortunately, the State and these governments didn't prepare the projects, so all of this will demand work from all of us, but there is a path; you have to have the political capacity to articulate with the federal government, whoever the President of the Republic may be, to capture those resources, right?",2078.94,2096.74,"politica-de-credito-e-financiamento","Credit and Financing Policy","6dd4df6a-9825-464d-bad9-88f0d278a35b","coordinate with the federal government to secure funding for infrastructure works","proposes coordinating with the Union to finance major 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Police and the Public Prosecutor's Office.",{"idx":3037,"utterance_id":3038,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3039,"start_s":3040,"end_s":3041,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},441,"186024","We're starting; we hadn't been seeing this anymore, right?",2545.26,2547.46,{"idx":3043,"utterance_id":3044,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3045,"start_s":3046,"end_s":3047,"word_count":196,"indexable":179},442,"186025","Against public officials.",2547.66,2548.86,{"idx":3049,"utterance_id":3050,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3051,"start_s":3052,"end_s":3053,"word_count":243,"indexable":179},443,"186026","Now we're seeing it again — who knows why.",2549.3,2550.72,{"idx":3055,"utterance_id":3056,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3057,"start_s":3058,"end_s":3059,"word_count":217,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3060,"target_proposition":3061,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":319,"rationale":3062,"indexable":179},444,"186027","Because they politicized the police forces.",2551.52,2553.56,"0148d897-dab7-4b3e-ba07-4a9936b27d40","remove political interference in the management of public security","states that 'politizaram as forças policiais' and calls for change.",{"idx":3064,"utterance_id":3065,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3066,"start_s":3067,"end_s":3068,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3060,"target_proposition":3061,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":240,"rationale":3069,"indexable":232},445,"186028","We will take politicians' hands off public security.",2553.62,2557.5,"explicitly says 'Nós vamos tirar as patas dos políticos da segurança pública'.",{"idx":3071,"utterance_id":3072,"speaker_name":176,"text":3073,"start_s":3074,"end_s":3075,"word_count":15,"indexable":179},446,"186029","In terms of public security, is it possible to solve the problem — or to move toward a solution, which I imagine will take many decades — for Rio de Janeiro's problem without the federal government?",2557.54,2565,{"idx":3077,"utterance_id":3078,"speaker_name":176,"text":3079,"start_s":3080,"end_s":3081,"word_count":394,"indexable":179},447,"186030","And in that case... regardless of who wins, what is the role of a partnership between the federal government and the state government, thinking about borders and everything else?",2565.04,2573.08,{"idx":3083,"utterance_id":3084,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3085,"start_s":3086,"end_s":3087,"word_count":243,"topic_slug":3088,"topic_label":3089,"target_id":3090,"target_proposition":3091,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":319,"rationale":3092,"indexable":232},448,"186031","Look, partnership is always fundamental in everything.",2573.44,2575.5,"relacoes-intergovernamentais","Intergovernmental Relations","26192b73-f832-4e95-b0b1-25ac88ce6fda","establish partnership between municipal, state and federal governments for security","states that partnership between levels of government is fundamental.",{"idx":3094,"utterance_id":3095,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3096,"start_s":3097,"end_s":3098,"word_count":60,"indexable":179},449,"186032","The mayor has to talk to the governor and the president, the governor has to talk to the president and the mayor, everyone has to talk, right?",2576.74,2582.38,{"idx":3100,"utterance_id":3101,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3102,"start_s":3103,"end_s":3104,"word_count":297,"indexable":179},450,"186033","I, I, four-time mayor of Rio, have always had institutional relations with those in government, always.",2582.52,2589.08,{"idx":3106,"utterance_id":3107,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3108,"start_s":3109,"end_s":3110,"word_count":297,"indexable":179},451,"186034","President of the Republic, I've worked with several governors, I've worked with several, including Claudio Castro, right?",2589.1,2593.56,{"idx":3112,"utterance_id":3113,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3114,"start_s":3115,"end_s":3116,"word_count":243,"indexable":179},452,"186035","Anyway, the confrontation is coming, it's happening in this political moment.",2593.82,2595.78,{"idx":3118,"utterance_id":3119,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3120,"start_s":3121,"end_s":3122,"word_count":223,"indexable":179},453,"186036","Because that is my obligation.",2596.4,2599.06,{"idx":3124,"utterance_id":3125,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3126,"start_s":3127,"end_s":3128,"word_count":217,"indexable":179},454,"186037","Now, note one thing, folks.",2599.6,2601.06,{"idx":3130,"utterance_id":3131,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3132,"start_s":3133,"end_s":3134,"word_count":223,"topic_slug":2672,"topic_label":2673,"target_id":3135,"target_proposition":3136,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":1770,"rationale":3137,"indexable":179},455,"186038","I'm not going to outsource responsibility.",2601.56,2603.6,"2b5e6501-820d-40a1-abfd-efc99dc60c31","assume executive responsibility for the state's public security","declares they will not outsource responsibility and will assume duties.",{"idx":3139,"utterance_id":3140,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3141,"start_s":3142,"end_s":3143,"word_count":60,"indexable":179},456,"186039","I'm not going to keep blaming the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), Lula, the President of Brazil, the mayor, for what falls under the governor's responsibility.",2604.54,2613.4,{"idx":3145,"utterance_id":3146,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3147,"start_s":3148,"end_s":3149,"word_count":295,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3150,"target_proposition":3151,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":319,"rationale":3152,"indexable":232},457,"186040","It's obvious there is a complementary responsibility of the federal forces in terms of preventing the entry of 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surveillance.",{"idx":3163,"utterance_id":3164,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3165,"start_s":3166,"end_s":3167,"word_count":550,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3168,"target_proposition":3169,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":240,"rationale":3170,"indexable":232},459,"186042","In our case, as we did in the city of Rio de Janeiro, even conducting overt policing with the Municipal Force, which is a good example, I will create the State Unified Security System, in which we will set the limits for the municipal guards, who can now carry arms, what role they will fulfill.",2625.7,2642.96,"0ebc26a4-51b1-47b6-b82c-006776a16aeb","create a State Unified Security System and regulate municipal guards' operations","announces creation of a Unified Security System and definition of roles for the guards.",{"idx":3172,"utterance_id":3173,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3174,"start_s":3175,"end_s":3176,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},460,"186043","Now, take note, the responsibility will be Eduardo Paes's.",2643.5,2646.36,{"idx":3178,"utterance_id":3179,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3180,"start_s":3181,"end_s":3182,"word_count":297,"topic_slug":2672,"topic_label":2673,"target_id":3135,"target_proposition":3136,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":254,"rationale":3183,"indexable":232},461,"186044","If security is going well, they can say, look, the responsibility is Eduardo Paes's.",2646.94,2652.32,"states that responsibility for security outcomes will be theirs.",{"idx":3185,"utterance_id":3186,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3187,"start_s":3188,"end_s":3189,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},462,"186045","If it's going badly, the blame is Eduardo Paes's.",2652.38,2654.86,{"idx":3191,"utterance_id":3192,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3193,"start_s":3194,"end_s":3195,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},463,"186046","The STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) in Rio is the same as in Santa 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connected to organized crime?",2671.54,2679.92,{"idx":3221,"utterance_id":3222,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3223,"start_s":3224,"end_s":3225,"word_count":223,"indexable":179},468,"186051","Their candidate is governor, folks.",2680.26,2682.74,{"idx":3227,"utterance_id":3228,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3229,"start_s":3230,"end_s":3231,"word_count":223,"indexable":179},469,"186052","Douglas Ruas is the reserve\u002Fbackup.",2683.22,2684.58,{"idx":3233,"utterance_id":3234,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3235,"start_s":3236,"end_s":3237,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},470,"186053","He's the new face they found to deceive, right?",2685.12,2689.12,{"idx":3239,"utterance_id":3240,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3241,"start_s":3242,"end_s":3243,"word_count":234,"indexable":179},471,"186054","But the main one was Rodrigo 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right?",2711.02,2715.88,{"idx":3263,"utterance_id":3264,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3265,"start_s":3266,"end_s":3267,"word_count":194,"indexable":179},475,"186058","And give some stature to this process, make a change — now change with predictability, with someone that people know for sure, who knows, who knows how to govern, who knows how to get things done.",2716.02,2727.72,{"idx":3269,"utterance_id":3270,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3271,"start_s":3272,"end_s":3273,"word_count":502,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3274,"target_proposition":3275,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":1556,"rationale":3276,"indexable":232},476,"186059","and it will take a lot of work, I'm not saying we'll resolve this overnight, you can't say, oh, it'll be solved in so many days, but we will make progress; it is possible to restore tranquility, peace, to Fluminense families, we will go in that 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motorcycles for delivery services out of that work.",2758.84,2763.72,{"idx":3296,"utterance_id":3297,"speaker_name":176,"text":3298,"start_s":3299,"end_s":3300,"word_count":313,"indexable":179},480,"186063","Since they have no prospects and end up going into that work, there are many motorcycles on the streets.",2764.14,2768.36,{"idx":720,"utterance_id":3302,"speaker_name":176,"text":3303,"start_s":3304,"end_s":3305,"word_count":234,"indexable":179},"186064","And this is a public health matter.",2768.54,2770.26,{"idx":3307,"utterance_id":3308,"speaker_name":176,"text":3309,"start_s":3310,"end_s":3311,"word_count":187,"indexable":179},482,"186065","Without a doubt.",2770.28,2770.94,{"idx":3313,"utterance_id":3314,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3315,"start_s":3316,"end_s":3317,"word_count":203,"topic_slug":2847,"topic_label":2848,"target_id":3318,"target_proposition":3319,"stance":213,"stance_confidence":282,"rationale":3320,"indexable":179},483,"186066","It has become a huge problem, right?",2771.12,2773.02,"9bbb1f23-744c-4ad4-90b2-31dbed9a80c6","reduce motorcycle accidents in the municipality","acknowledges an increase in accidents in the public system; describes the problem.",{"idx":3322,"utterance_id":3323,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3324,"start_s":3325,"end_s":3326,"word_count":194,"indexable":179},484,"186067","I think I was coming here and I saw a report saying that the number of motorcycle accident victims in the public network of the city of Rio de Janeiro has doubled.",2773.04,2780.6,{"idx":3328,"utterance_id":3329,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3330,"start_s":3331,"end_s":3332,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},485,"186068","This is a huge problem that we are facing.",2780.62,2782.7,{"idx":3334,"utterance_id":3335,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3336,"start_s":3337,"end_s":3338,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},486,"186069","And it's somewhat a multi-sectoral task, right?",2783.2,2787.66,{"idx":3340,"utterance_id":3341,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3342,"start_s":3343,"end_s":3344,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},487,"186070","Because it's like that, it has become a means of livelihood.",2787.8,2791.16,{"idx":3346,"utterance_id":3347,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3348,"start_s":3349,"end_s":3350,"word_count":267,"indexable":179},488,"186071","for a significant portion of the population, especially the youngest.",2791.8,2794.94,{"idx":3352,"utterance_id":3353,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3354,"start_s":3355,"end_s":3356,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":3357,"topic_label":3358,"target_id":3359,"target_proposition":3360,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":240,"rationale":3361,"indexable":232},489,"186072","So what we need to do is, first, seek alternatives for these younger people, that share of 600,000 Fluminense youths who neither work nor study.",2794.96,2804.08,"politicas-urbanas","Urban 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initiatives here, as mayor, regarding motorbike taxi drivers and motorbike couriers; we created support bases.",2811.12,2819.98,"c20255ac-224e-4480-9331-489a1ee48cd6","implement enforcement, require helmets and licenses, and support training for delivery workers",0.89,"proposes oversight, enforcement of rules, and support to obtain licensing.",{"idx":3385,"utterance_id":3386,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3387,"start_s":3388,"end_s":3389,"word_count":680,"indexable":179},493,"186076","Then I saw, I saw that the candidate was proposing, cozying up to that crowd — there isn't a motofaxa in São Gonçalo, where his daddy is the mayor, there's not a support base here in Rio, we have support bases, motofaxas, Mayor Cavalieri continues in that direction — so it's a matter of, look, let's collaborate to reduce these accidents, but at the same time you have to demand compliance with rules, helmet.",2821.4,2844.88,{"idx":3391,"utterance_id":3392,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3393,"start_s":3394,"end_s":3395,"word_count":305,"indexable":179},494,"186077","As you go around, you see a huge number without helmets.",2845.74,2849.58,{"idx":3397,"utterance_id":3398,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3399,"start_s":3400,"end_s":3401,"word_count":520,"indexable":179},495,"186078","They must have a driver's license; even if the public authorities have to help — and there is an initiative by the Municipality of Rio de Janeiro that assists in obtaining that license — so that the rider has an idea of minimum traffic rules, the left lane for overtaking, anyway, those things we've 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they can, for example, signal 'the guy is frequently going the wrong way, riding on the sidewalk.'",2874.8,2885.52,{"idx":3424,"utterance_id":3425,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3426,"start_s":3427,"end_s":3428,"word_count":217,"indexable":179},499,"186082","It's that they resist, right?",2886.12,2887.74,{"idx":3430,"utterance_id":3431,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3432,"start_s":3433,"end_s":3434,"word_count":223,"indexable":179},500,"186083","Because there's competition among them.",2887.8,2889.3,{"idx":3436,"utterance_id":3437,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3438,"start_s":3439,"end_s":3440,"word_count":297,"indexable":179},501,"186084","So today the Municipality of Rio de Janeiro has a database, right?",2889.32,2893.56,{"idx":3442,"utterance_id":3443,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3444,"start_s":3445,"end_s":3446,"word_count":267,"indexable":179},502,"186085","Which over time can be worked on to punish.",2893.7,2897.64,{"idx":3448,"utterance_id":3449,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3450,"start_s":3451,"end_s":3452,"word_count":234,"indexable":179},503,"186086","Repeated infractions committed by these delivery workers.",2898.12,2901.78,{"idx":3454,"utterance_id":3455,"speaker_name":176,"text":3456,"start_s":3457,"end_s":3458,"word_count":305,"topic_slug":2847,"topic_label":2848,"target_id":3459,"target_proposition":3460,"stance":213,"stance_confidence":214,"rationale":3461,"indexable":179},504,"186087","I want to take advantage of our last two minutes and ask about public health in the State, quickly.",2901.8,2907.02,"6d8c53b1-50c3-4787-ba21-ec8e8ab3d7e0","designate leadership responsible for state public health","interviewer's question about who 'manda' in health; no proposal of their own.",{"idx":3463,"utterance_id":3464,"speaker_name":176,"text":3465,"start_s":3466,"end_s":3467,"word_count":234,"indexable":179},505,"186088","I'll be very direct in the question.",2907.64,2909.08,{"idx":3469,"utterance_id":3470,"speaker_name":176,"text":3471,"start_s":3472,"end_s":3473,"word_count":21,"indexable":179},506,"186089","For many years now I've been hearing the same thing, that public health in the State has an owner.",2909.7,2915.38,{"idx":3475,"utterance_id":3476,"speaker_name":176,"text":3477,"start_s":3478,"end_s":3479,"word_count":290,"indexable":179},507,"186090","Will Dr. Luizinho continue calling the shots in the State's public health under your government?",2916.42,2919.82,{"idx":3481,"utterance_id":3482,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3483,"start_s":3484,"end_s":3485,"word_count":196,"indexable":179},508,"186091","By no means.",2919.84,2920.36,{"idx":3487,"utterance_id":3488,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3483,"start_s":3489,"end_s":3490,"word_count":196,"indexable":179},509,"186092",2920.52,2921.02,{"idx":3492,"utterance_id":3493,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3494,"start_s":3495,"end_s":3496,"word_count":4,"indexable":179},510,"186093","And look, my government, oh André Aza, let's go.",2921.12,2923.86,{"idx":3498,"utterance_id":3499,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3500,"start_s":3501,"end_s":3502,"word_count":223,"topic_slug":2672,"topic_label":2673,"target_id":3503,"target_proposition":3504,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":319,"rationale":3505,"indexable":179},511,"186094","In my government, I'm the one in charge.",2924.68,2927,"2d0595d6-fb8b-4a8e-b0e5-3583e25be643","exercise the functions of the governor's office","Declares 'Quem manda sou eu', asserting control over the government.",{"idx":3507,"utterance_id":3508,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3509,"start_s":3510,"end_s":3511,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},512,"186095","There is no such thing.",2928.12,2929.16,{"idx":3513,"utterance_id":3514,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3515,"start_s":3516,"end_s":3517,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},513,"186096","I think I have already proven that four times.",2929.96,2931.68,{"idx":3519,"utterance_id":3520,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3521,"start_s":3522,"end_s":3523,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},514,"186097","I know how to be in charge, right?",2932.7,2934.54,{"idx":3525,"utterance_id":3526,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3527,"start_s":3528,"end_s":3529,"word_count":297,"indexable":179},515,"186098","In my government I assume responsibilities, including the mistakes of my secretaries.",2934.7,2939.86,{"idx":3531,"utterance_id":3532,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3533,"start_s":3534,"end_s":3535,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":2847,"topic_label":2848,"target_id":3536,"target_proposition":3537,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":1376,"rationale":3538,"indexable":232},516,"186099","My example is Dr. Daniel Sorantes, our federal deputy.",2940.56,2943.98,"95781cef-3b60-4eca-a52b-3bae95e08a5b","involve experts in public health management","Points to Daniel Sorantes as an example of a qualified health official.",{"idx":3540,"utterance_id":3541,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3542,"start_s":3543,"end_s":3544,"word_count":21,"indexable":179},517,"186100","There he is, a qualified figure, almost fourteen years as secretary of health of the municipality, he revolutionized public health in the municipality of Rio de Janeiro.",2944.46,2952.94,{"idx":3546,"utterance_id":3547,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3548,"start_s":3549,"end_s":3550,"word_count":223,"indexable":179},518,"186101","Now, I never have, I never delegated.",2953.36,2956.06,{"idx":3552,"utterance_id":3553,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3554,"start_s":3555,"end_s":3556,"word_count":234,"indexable":179},519,"186102","He's the one who understands public health.",2956.26,2957.8,{"idx":3558,"utterance_id":3559,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3560,"start_s":3561,"end_s":3562,"word_count":272,"indexable":179},520,"186103","Now, I'm always there, as chief, overseeing; the final decisions are mine.",2957.84,2962.02,{"idx":3564,"utterance_id":3565,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3566,"start_s":3567,"end_s":3568,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},521,"186104","So write that down, folks.",2962.5,2963.98,{"idx":3570,"utterance_id":3571,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3572,"start_s":3573,"end_s":3574,"word_count":217,"indexable":179},522,"186105","I can say that.",2964.44,2965.58,{"idx":3576,"utterance_id":3577,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3578,"start_s":3579,"end_s":3580,"word_count":243,"indexable":179},523,"186106","Everyone knows my style of governance.",2966.1,2967.92,{"idx":3582,"utterance_id":3583,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3584,"start_s":3585,"end_s":3586,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},524,"186107","I don't give up authority.",2968.66,2971.58,{"idx":3588,"utterance_id":3589,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3590,"start_s":3591,"end_s":3592,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},525,"186108","I don't delegate authority.",2971.76,2972.94,{"idx":3594,"utterance_id":3595,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3596,"start_s":3597,"end_s":3598,"word_count":234,"indexable":179},526,"186109","I'm the one in charge in my government.",2973.28,2974.72,{"idx":3600,"utterance_id":3601,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3602,"start_s":3603,"end_s":3604,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},527,"186110","For the good things and for the bad things.",2975.32,2977.38,{"idx":3606,"utterance_id":3607,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3608,"start_s":3609,"end_s":3610,"word_count":217,"indexable":179},528,"186111","And especially for the bad ones.",2977.4,2978.78,{"idx":3612,"utterance_id":3613,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3614,"start_s":3615,"end_s":3616,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},529,"186112","That's my track record.",2979.34,2980.32,{"idx":3618,"utterance_id":3619,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3620,"start_s":3621,"end_s":3622,"word_count":228,"indexable":179},530,"186113","If there's a problem, I don't run from my responsibilities.",2980.66,2983.5,{"idx":3624,"utterance_id":3625,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3626,"start_s":3627,"end_s":3628,"word_count":272,"indexable":179},531,"186114","When I make a mistake, I admit the mistake, even when I get a name wrong in an eventual choice.",2983.88,2987.66,{"idx":3630,"utterance_id":3631,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3632,"start_s":3633,"end_s":3634,"word_count":313,"indexable":179},532,"186115","So have that peace of mind from a man who governed the city of Rio de Janeiro four times.",2988.2,2994.08,{"idx":3636,"utterance_id":3637,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3638,"start_s":3639,"end_s":3640,"word_count":305,"topic_slug":2672,"topic_label":2673,"target_id":3641,"target_proposition":3642,"stance":253,"stance_confidence":240,"rationale":3643,"indexable":232},533,"186116","We will have qualified personnel, State functions such as control, revenue collection, public security, and the prosecutor's office.",2994.48,3004.38,"422ab4e8-964f-4ce0-ae47-8ccfd20ee506","implement regular targets and monitoring in public administration","Says he will implement policies with targets and permanent, transparent accountability.",{"idx":3645,"utterance_id":3646,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3647,"start_s":3648,"end_s":3649,"word_count":421,"indexable":179},534,"186117","The politicians will keep their little paws very far away and we will... implement public policies with targets, with performance agreements, with permanent and transparent accountability, which is how I know how to govern.",3005.02,3019.14,{"idx":3651,"utterance_id":3652,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3653,"start_s":3654,"end_s":3655,"word_count":217,"indexable":179},535,"186118","I like being an executive.",3019.26,3020.58,{"idx":3657,"utterance_id":3658,"speaker_name":189,"speaker_slug":190,"text":3659,"start_s":3660,"end_s":3661,"word_count":203,"indexable":179},536,"186119","I am an 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