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the south of Minas, for example, from the Triângulo, are facing the problems posed by this fiscal reform.",1157.62,1162.46,{"idx":1657,"utterance_id":1658,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1659,"start_s":1660,"end_s":1661,"word_count":149,"indexable":72},254,"154933","Because this will remove [incentives], but they create 10,000 jobs in that region.",1163.52,1166.98,{"idx":1663,"utterance_id":1664,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1665,"start_s":1666,"end_s":1667,"word_count":74,"indexable":72},255,"154934","You understand?",1168.26,1168.66,{"idx":1669,"utterance_id":1670,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1671,"start_s":1672,"end_s":1673,"word_count":4,"indexable":72},256,"154935","And I doubt there are 20 billion there in exemptions.",1169.36,1172.28,{"idx":1675,"utterance_id":1676,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1677,"start_s":1678,"end_s":1679,"word_count":149,"indexable":72},257,"154936","I doubt that this is in the Triângulo or in the 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Proosp, Caminhos de Minas', proposing to resume plans.",{"idx":1922,"utterance_id":1923,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1924,"start_s":1925,"end_s":1926,"word_count":104,"indexable":72},295,"154974","So, we forgot to make plans, because there were plans here before.",1326.8,1330.84,{"idx":1928,"utterance_id":1929,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1930,"start_s":1931,"end_s":1932,"word_count":87,"indexable":72},296,"154975","Road plans, Pró-MG.",1331.46,1333.68,{"idx":1934,"utterance_id":1935,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1936,"start_s":1937,"end_s":1938,"word_count":93,"indexable":72},297,"154976","So, Minas Gerais is finished.",1335.08,1337.18,{"idx":1940,"utterance_id":1941,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1942,"start_s":1943,"end_s":1944,"word_count":125,"indexable":72},298,"154977","Minas Gerais today is run haphazardly.",1337.26,1339.42,{"idx":1946,"utterance_id":1947,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1948,"start_s":1949,"end_s":1950,"word_count":210,"indexable":72},299,"154978","I don't pay, I don't know, the president is no good, worthless, whatever — but I'm owing 200 billion and I refuse to settle it.",1339.9,1346.14,{"idx":1952,"utterance_id":1953,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1954,"start_s":1955,"end_s":1956,"word_count":111,"topic_slug":1585,"topic_label":1586,"target_id":1587,"target_proposition":1588,"stance":263,"stance_confidence":276,"rationale":1957,"indexable":266},300,"154979","The senators went there — who have the pen in hand — handed over a package, and the government swallowed it because it's leaving.",1346.56,1351.72,"Criticizes the attitude of senators\u002Fgovernment and says 'temos que resolver' the debt.",{"idx":1959,"utterance_id":1960,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1961,"start_s":1962,"end_s":1963,"word_count":199,"indexable":72},301,"154980","And God willing, this has to end; respect for the governor of Minas Gerais has to return.",1353.56,1359.68,{"idx":1965,"utterance_id":1966,"speaker_name":68,"text":1967,"start_s":1968,"end_s":1969,"word_count":216,"topic_slug":1537,"topic_label":1538,"target_id":1539,"target_proposition":1540,"stance":263,"stance_confidence":1970,"rationale":1971,"indexable":266},302,"154981","You spoke of highways; I can't fail to ask: ours are in catastrophic condition, some of which you even have to pay tolls to use.",1359.88,1369.38,0.78,"Interviewer asks how to address chaotic highways, requesting action on roads.",{"idx":1973,"utterance_id":1974,"speaker_name":68,"text":1975,"start_s":1976,"end_s":1977,"word_count":210,"indexable":72},303,"154982","How do we tackle it so we stop having the feeling that when you pass through the south of Minas and enter São Paulo, the robbery gets better?",1370.12,1375.34,{"idx":1979,"utterance_id":1980,"speaker_name":68,"text":1981,"start_s":1982,"end_s":1983,"word_count":113,"indexable":72},304,"154983","What should be done to improve this situation?",1375.66,1377.16,{"idx":1985,"utterance_id":1986,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1987,"start_s":1988,"end_s":1989,"word_count":113,"indexable":72},305,"154984","Look, it's not São Paulo, okay?",1378.76,1379.98,{"idx":1991,"utterance_id":1992,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1993,"start_s":1994,"end_s":1995,"word_count":149,"indexable":72},306,"154985","If you take the Via Lagos in Rio de Janeiro, it's like a movie.",1380.9,1383.72,{"idx":1997,"utterance_id":1998,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":1999,"start_s":2000,"end_s":2001,"word_count":4,"indexable":72},307,"154986","If you take the BRs in Paraná, they're spectacular.",1384.1,1387.46,{"idx":34,"utterance_id":2003,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2004,"start_s":2005,"end_s":2006,"word_count":99,"indexable":72},"154987","Because the money is there.",1387.76,1388.72,{"idx":2008,"utterance_id":2009,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2010,"start_s":2011,"end_s":2012,"word_count":172,"indexable":72},309,"154988","Those who go there to grab the money — we secured the hospital there, and also for Belo Horizonte.",1389.76,1393.74,{"idx":2014,"utterance_id":2015,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2016,"start_s":2017,"end_s":2018,"word_count":81,"indexable":72},310,"154989","Right?",1395.34,1395.82,{"idx":2020,"utterance_id":2021,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2022,"start_s":2023,"end_s":2024,"word_count":113,"indexable":72},311,"154990","But we will go there to fetch the money.",1395.9,1397.06,{"idx":2026,"utterance_id":2027,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2028,"start_s":2029,"end_s":2030,"word_count":120,"indexable":72},312,"154991","So, the problem is that there is no government.",1398.24,1403.36,{"idx":2032,"utterance_id":2033,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2034,"start_s":2035,"end_s":2036,"word_count":87,"indexable":72},313,"154992","No one will... 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are here in the metropolitan region, go to a government construction site: the government made a little 'lollipop' here, like the one at Praça Sérvia — a token job, 'duplicated' a road — then you get to Itabira and they promised the road there eight years ago.",1419.58,1436.36,{"idx":22,"utterance_id":2057,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2058,"start_s":2059,"end_s":2060,"word_count":160,"indexable":72},"154996","A rich state, a rich city, a mining town — they keep promising what was promised.",1437.86,1443.48,{"idx":2062,"utterance_id":2063,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2064,"start_s":2065,"end_s":2066,"word_count":125,"indexable":72},318,"154997","And it was left for Marco Antônio Larchi to solve it.",1444.22,1448.66,{"idx":2068,"utterance_id":2069,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2070,"start_s":2071,"end_s":2072,"word_count":93,"indexable":72},319,"154998","The problem is 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We're in a bad way in Minas.",1758.4,1761.1,{"idx":2587,"utterance_id":2588,"speaker_name":68,"text":2589,"start_s":2590,"end_s":2591,"word_count":93,"indexable":72},404,"155083","It would be this way, right?",1762.88,1763.98,{"idx":2593,"utterance_id":2594,"speaker_name":68,"text":2595,"start_s":2596,"end_s":2597,"word_count":87,"indexable":72},405,"155084","There is no other way.",1764.16,1765.02,{"idx":2599,"utterance_id":2600,"speaker_name":68,"text":2601,"start_s":2602,"end_s":2603,"word_count":111,"indexable":72},406,"155085","And the first act would be, in fact... 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the mission must carry a lot of responsibility.",1862.44,1870.22,{"idx":2769,"utterance_id":2770,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2771,"start_s":2772,"end_s":2773,"word_count":160,"indexable":72},434,"155113","I think we have an opportunity to make a responsible plan; I have already done it.",1871,1877.82,{"idx":2775,"utterance_id":2776,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2777,"start_s":2778,"end_s":2779,"word_count":166,"indexable":72},435,"155114","I have administrative experience; I did it, I think I did it well, because I was reelected in the first round.",1879.46,1886.96,{"idx":2781,"utterance_id":2782,"speaker_name":68,"text":2783,"start_s":2784,"end_s":2785,"word_count":199,"indexable":72},436,"155115","Now we'll move on — sorry to interrupt you, because it's the rule; one minute remains. Now I hear your final remarks.",1887.72,1893.62,{"idx":2787,"utterance_id":2788,"speaker_name":68,"text":2789,"start_s":2790,"end_s":2791,"word_count":99,"indexable":72},437,"155116","Please, candidate Alexandre Calil.",1893.66,1894.92,{"idx":2793,"utterance_id":2794,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2795,"start_s":2796,"end_s":2797,"word_count":210,"indexable":72},438,"155117","It's the rule for speaking: I'll say that I'm number 12, I'm Alexandre Calil, I'm a candidate for PDT; I have Moscone.",1896.82,1907.2,{"idx":2799,"utterance_id":2800,"speaker_name":256,"speaker_slug":257,"text":2801,"start_s":2802,"end_s":2803,"word_count":43,"indexable":72},439,"155118","who is down in the south, who is a doctor, who was the rapporteur for the SUS, a very important guy, who is someone connected to health, a 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