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Welcome to another Flow. I'm Igor and today I'm going to talk with Lula, man. Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. Thank you so much for coming, man.",69.7,78.18,false,{"idx":182,"utterance_id":183,"speaker_name":176,"text":184,"start_s":185,"end_s":186,"word_count":187,"indexable":180},1,"6163","It's for you to see, Igor.",79,79.66,5,{"idx":189,"utterance_id":190,"speaker_name":176,"text":191,"start_s":192,"end_s":193,"word_count":194,"indexable":180},2,"6164","Oh, cool. Look, I've wanted to have this chat with you for a long time, you have no idea, man. I imagine this probably doesn't even reach you, but I've been trying to talk to you for about two years. No,",80.5,90.42,39,{"idx":196,"utterance_id":197,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":198,"start_s":193,"end_s":199,"word_count":200,"indexable":180},3,"6165","The truth is, Crispiniano has for a long time wanted me to come on Flow. Really? 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So stay sharp on social media, on Discord and everything else, Universus is about to launch, Brazilian technology, all happening here in Brazil, okay?",139.16,174.26,121,{"idx":207,"utterance_id":228,"speaker_name":176,"text":229,"start_s":230,"end_s":231,"word_count":232,"indexable":180},"6170","And, man, the last days of the promotion are happening: buy 3 androids and get 3 more androids, which are the characters you use in the game to do well, okay?",174.6,184.48000000000002,36,{"idx":234,"utterance_id":235,"speaker_name":176,"text":236,"start_s":237,"end_s":238,"word_count":15,"indexable":180},9,"6171","So, don't waste time. The QR code here, the comment here — I mean, actually the link in the pinned comment. And that's it. 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Universus, go to their social networks to check it out, okay?",219.3,223.34,{"idx":60,"utterance_id":308,"speaker_name":176,"text":309,"start_s":310,"end_s":311,"word_count":312,"indexable":180},"6184","Now, let me say this one is super easy for me. Not that the other... It's that I haven't had the opportunity to try Universus yet. But Insider, I use it every day. It's this shirt I'm wearing. Lula will also have the chance to try it. Here you go, Lula.",224.2,240.35999999999999,62,{"idx":21,"utterance_id":314,"speaker_name":176,"text":315,"start_s":316,"end_s":317,"word_count":318,"indexable":180},"6185","Man, I'm going to leave here. Clothes, clothes, clothes. You're in fashion here. Yeah, you'll come out fashionable. And look, Insider is an online clothing store, okay? Apparel. They have lots of pieces. Not just shirts. As you can see, there are long-sleeve shirts too. Many different colors. There's hoodies, underwear, socks, everything. 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It controls odor inside the shirt and such. It has a bactericidal effect. It's easy: you wash it and you don't need to iron. You just hang it and that's it, okay? Differentiated thermal comfort. So it's worth trying Insider's pieces.",303.94,325.26,59,{"idx":9,"utterance_id":333,"speaker_name":176,"text":334,"start_s":335,"end_s":336,"word_count":320,"indexable":180},"6188","Yeah, okay? So, insiderstore.com.br and the coupon is FLOW20. And Lula, this last one, man, this isn't personal, okay?",327.6,335.26000000000005,{"idx":338,"utterance_id":339,"speaker_name":176,"text":340,"start_s":341,"end_s":342,"word_count":189,"indexable":180},27,"6189","But, oh...",336.4,336.79999999999995,{"idx":43,"utterance_id":344,"speaker_name":176,"text":345,"start_s":346,"end_s":347,"word_count":214,"indexable":180},"6190","Um... 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They did my implant and you don't need to leave Brazil. There's that idea that you need to go to Turkey to do the hair implant and that's not true. Today you can do it in Brazil, in the main cities of Brazil, Stanley is already arriving, okay?",354.8,385.16,114,{"idx":15,"utterance_id":368,"speaker_name":176,"text":369,"start_s":370,"end_s":371,"word_count":372,"indexable":180},"6194","And, man, they do the work with top technology, top quality and the price is different. I can attest that the price is different and you can still pay in installments there, no problem, use your credit card there, you'll get hairy again and at a good price, alright? 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And you don't have to be on the left.",1592.2,1594.1200000000001,{"idx":1761,"utterance_id":1762,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1763,"start_s":1764,"end_s":1765,"word_count":257,"indexable":180},277,"6439","Because it's not only the left that has the truth.",1594.54,1597.24,{"idx":1767,"utterance_id":1768,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1769,"start_s":1770,"end_s":1771,"word_count":338,"indexable":180},278,"6440","It's important for us to know that there are many serious people who aren't on the left. Many good people, many committed people, many people who think about Brazil.",1598.1,1605.98,{"idx":1773,"utterance_id":1774,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1775,"start_s":1776,"end_s":1777,"word_count":189,"indexable":180},279,"6441","Yeah, Bia.",1607,1607.38,{"idx":1779,"utterance_id":1780,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1781,"start_s":1782,"end_s":1783,"word_count":292,"indexable":180},280,"6442","I think it's these people who need to speak more, who need to debate more, who need to put themselves forward more.",1608,1613.04,{"idx":1785,"utterance_id":1786,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1787,"start_s":1788,"end_s":1789,"word_count":187,"indexable":180},281,"6443","Because you know what happens?",1613.9,1614.7800000000002,{"idx":1791,"utterance_id":1792,"speaker_name":176,"text":1793,"start_s":1794,"end_s":1795,"word_count":9,"indexable":180},282,"6444","When you say, 'I'm not a politician'—have you said that? I've said I don't like politicians. Ah, then let me tell you.",1614.98,1621.1000000000001,{"idx":1797,"utterance_id":1798,"speaker_name":176,"text":1799,"start_s":1800,"end_s":1801,"word_count":196,"indexable":180},283,"6445","June of 1978,",1622.6,1624.52,{"idx":1803,"utterance_id":1804,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1805,"start_s":1806,"end_s":1807,"word_count":21,"indexable":180},284,"6446","I wasn't even like that yet, and I used to say, I don't like politics and I don't even like people who like politics. Of",1625.1799999999998,1632.9599999999998,{"idx":1809,"utterance_id":1810,"speaker_name":176,"text":1811,"start_s":1807,"end_s":1812,"word_count":207,"indexable":180},285,"6447","politics I like, I don't like politicians. 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No, I ask people to do differently from me and go vote. The",1702.6399999999999,{"idx":34,"utterance_id":1905,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1906,"start_s":1903,"end_s":1907,"word_count":182,"indexable":180},"6465","TSE (Superior Electoral Court),",1703.02,{"idx":1909,"utterance_id":1910,"speaker_name":176,"text":1911,"start_s":1912,"end_s":1913,"word_count":202,"indexable":180},304,"6466","let me tell you,",1703.22,1703.84,{"idx":1915,"utterance_id":1916,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1917,"start_s":1918,"end_s":1919,"word_count":263,"indexable":180},305,"6467","made a decision now that municipalities can provide free transportation for the people.",1704.1399999999999,1710.1,{"idx":1921,"utterance_id":1922,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1923,"start_s":1924,"end_s":1925,"word_count":496,"indexable":180},306,"6468","Because it's very important, transportation is an issue and a person who lives here in the East Zone, if he has to vote elsewhere, he doesn't have the money. So, what's so hard about providing a day's transportation for the guy to travel to go vote? And if you don't vote, Igor, vote, man.",1711.3,1726.48,{"idx":1927,"utterance_id":1928,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1929,"start_s":1930,"end_s":1931,"word_count":302,"indexable":180},307,"6469","Get up in the morning, but let me tell you, get up in the morning and say, I'm going to fulfill my civic duty.",1727.1,1732.1,{"idx":1933,"utterance_id":1934,"speaker_name":176,"text":1935,"start_s":1936,"end_s":1937,"word_count":245,"indexable":180},308,"6470","But it's that I don't believe in you guys, man. I will",1732.1599999999999,1733.4399999999998,{"idx":1939,"utterance_id":1940,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1941,"start_s":1937,"end_s":1942,"word_count":207,"indexable":180},309,"6471","admit it — you have to believe, do you know why?",1736.1999999999998,{"idx":1944,"utterance_id":1945,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1946,"start_s":1947,"end_s":1948,"word_count":221,"indexable":180},310,"6472","Either you believe or you become a politician.",1736.54,1738.56,{"idx":1950,"utterance_id":1951,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1952,"start_s":1953,"end_s":1954,"word_count":292,"indexable":180},311,"6473","And when you don't believe in anyone, you have to know the following: what kind of good politician do you want?",1740.2,1744.72,{"idx":1956,"utterance_id":1957,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1958,"start_s":1959,"end_s":1960,"word_count":196,"indexable":180},312,"6474","Maybe it's you.",1745.6,1746.2199999999998,{"idx":1962,"utterance_id":1963,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1964,"start_s":1965,"end_s":1966,"word_count":263,"indexable":180},313,"6475","Who knows — perhaps only you can accomplish what you want others to accomplish.",1747.6,1751.28,{"idx":1968,"utterance_id":1969,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1970,"start_s":1971,"end_s":1972,"word_count":251,"indexable":180},314,"6476","So, man, stop badmouthing politicians and get into politics.",1752.4,1755.42,{"idx":1974,"utterance_id":1975,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1976,"start_s":1977,"end_s":1978,"word_count":60,"indexable":180},315,"6477","Then you'll realize how hard it is. You'll realize how much easier it is to talk into a microphone than to get things done.",1756.6,1764,{"idx":1980,"utterance_id":1981,"speaker_name":176,"text":1982,"start_s":1983,"end_s":1984,"word_count":43,"indexable":180},316,"6478","This is my way of doing politics, actually. I bring the guys here and present to people the ideas that are produced here. I",1764.36,1771.84,{"idx":1986,"utterance_id":1987,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1988,"start_s":1984,"end_s":1989,"word_count":380,"indexable":180},317,"6479","will never speak to someone with the aim of getting them to join my party or to vote for me. What I want is this: the person has to turn out to vote.",1780.1399999999999,{"idx":1991,"utterance_id":1992,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1993,"start_s":1994,"end_s":1995,"word_count":21,"indexable":180},318,"6480","Fábio, to set an example for people, when I see an 80-year-old person vote, he is not obliged to vote.",1781.3,1787.46,{"idx":1997,"utterance_id":1998,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":1999,"start_s":2000,"end_s":2001,"word_count":263,"indexable":180},319,"6481","But when he goes to vote it's a very, very, very, very nice thing.",1788.1,1791.3,{"idx":2003,"utterance_id":2004,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":2005,"start_s":2006,"end_s":2007,"word_count":245,"indexable":180},320,"6482","Lewandowski's mother, Minister Lewandowski's mother, she was 90 years old.",1792.4,1795.38,{"idx":2009,"utterance_id":2010,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":2011,"start_s":2012,"end_s":2013,"word_count":207,"indexable":180},321,"6483","She lamented that she would have to use her walker to go vote.",1796.3,1798.74,{"idx":2015,"utterance_id":2016,"speaker_name":176,"text":2017,"start_s":2018,"end_s":2019,"word_count":196,"indexable":180},322,"6484","Do you know why?",1799.7,1801.14,{"idx":2021,"utterance_id":2022,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":2023,"start_s":2024,"end_s":2025,"word_count":245,"indexable":180},323,"6485","Because she believes in democracy, believes in the vote, believes things can get better.",1801.2,1805.0800000000002,{"idx":2027,"utterance_id":2028,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":2029,"start_s":2030,"end_s":2031,"word_count":4,"indexable":180},324,"6486","You have to have hope, man, believe in something good.",1806,1808.72,{"idx":2033,"utterance_id":2034,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":2035,"start_s":2036,"end_s":2037,"word_count":200,"indexable":180},325,"6487","It's not possible that with this number of candidates in Brazil there isn't anyone who deserves your trust.",1809.18,1814.92,{"idx":2039,"utterance_id":2040,"speaker_name":176,"text":2041,"start_s":2042,"end_s":2043,"word_count":269,"indexable":180},326,"6488","There must be, there must be, there must be, there must be. 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I came in second. So PT was second in '89, second in '94, second in '98, first in 2002, first in 2006, first in 2010, first in 2014 and second in 2018.",1986.5,2000.06,{"idx":2199,"utterance_id":2200,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":2201,"start_s":2202,"end_s":2203,"word_count":221,"indexable":180},354,"6516","And now we're in first again.",2000.68,2002.48,{"idx":2205,"utterance_id":2206,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":2207,"start_s":2208,"end_s":2209,"word_count":207,"indexable":180},355,"6517","So, PT is very big. Always very",2003.5,2005.78,{"idx":2211,"utterance_id":2212,"speaker_name":176,"text":2213,"start_s":2209,"end_s":2214,"word_count":189,"indexable":180},356,"6518","big. 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Because, look, one of the ideas and proposals I've already heard is, man, to have a profile on Twitter or whatever you need to register an ID, for example. It makes it harder for the guy... Then when the guy says something, kind of everyone knows who he is.",4168.1,4185.4400000000005,{"idx":5122,"utterance_id":5123,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":5124,"start_s":5125,"end_s":5126,"word_count":286,"indexable":180},861,"7023","So, let me ask you, don't you think it's good for us to know who it is?",4185.620000000001,4188.56,{"idx":5128,"utterance_id":5129,"speaker_name":176,"text":5130,"start_s":5131,"end_s":5132,"word_count":207,"indexable":180},862,"7024","I think so, I think so. 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Can we be protagonists? It's the new world of work.",4361.1,4362.68,{"idx":5345,"utterance_id":5346,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":5347,"start_s":5348,"end_s":5349,"word_count":200,"indexable":180},899,"7061","Today, when you go to discuss employment, what am I proposing? That we bring together the business owners.",4363.4,4368.24,{"idx":5351,"utterance_id":5352,"speaker_name":137,"speaker_slug":136,"text":5353,"start_s":5354,"end_s":5355,"word_count":200,"indexable":180},900,"7062","I've already spoken, including, with Josué from Fiesp. 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