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a lack of 'apoio na área da inteligência artificial' for the productive sector.",{"idx":485,"utterance_id":486,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":487,"start_s":488,"end_s":489,"word_count":199,"indexable":178},44,"103280","This is very bad.",704.78,705.4,{"idx":491,"utterance_id":492,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":493,"start_s":494,"end_s":495,"word_count":257,"indexable":178},45,"103281","And at this moment, the aggravating factor I see is that it is not a trait",705.98,710.8,{"idx":478,"utterance_id":497,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":498,"start_s":499,"end_s":500,"word_count":206,"indexable":178},"103282","of national politics towards polarization.",711.28,714.4,{"idx":502,"utterance_id":503,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":504,"start_s":505,"end_s":506,"word_count":263,"indexable":178},47,"103283","This project of polarization is a political project of those who want 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then.",1574.92,1575.6,{"idx":1605,"utterance_id":1606,"speaker_name":175,"text":1607,"start_s":1608,"end_s":1609,"word_count":212,"indexable":178},225,"103461","Are you talking about impeachment?",1575.64,1576.46,{"idx":1611,"utterance_id":1612,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1613,"start_s":1614,"end_s":1615,"word_count":225,"indexable":178},226,"103462","No, I'm referring to an initial step.",1576.54,1578.72,{"idx":1617,"utterance_id":1618,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1619,"start_s":1620,"end_s":1621,"word_count":212,"indexable":178},227,"103463","That is already independent of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal).",1578.9,1580.82,{"idx":1623,"utterance_id":1624,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1625,"start_s":1626,"end_s":1627,"word_count":4,"indexable":178},228,"103464","Look, you have to understand that these are two different 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scandals.",{"idx":1653,"utterance_id":1654,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1655,"start_s":1656,"end_s":1657,"word_count":218,"indexable":178},232,"103468","And the second stage is independent of the STF.",1594,1595.88,{"idx":1659,"utterance_id":1660,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1661,"start_s":1662,"end_s":1663,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":1664,"topic_label":1665,"target_id":1666,"target_proposition":1667,"stance":458,"stance_confidence":369,"rationale":1668,"indexable":291},233,"103469","If the situation is taken to the Senate and impeachment is instituted there, authorized, then it is already independent of the STF.",1596.88,1607.88,"politica-institucional","Institutional Politics","ee093770-ba44-4be4-96b5-bdac5fb80103","open impeachment proceedings against the president","Says that, if brought to the Senate, the impeachment is independent of the Supreme 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governor.",1613.32,1619.74,{"idx":1689,"utterance_id":1690,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1691,"start_s":1692,"end_s":1693,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":1646,"topic_label":1647,"target_id":1648,"target_proposition":1649,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":1414,"rationale":1694,"indexable":291},237,"103473","who, at one point, was forced to be told, look, I'm sorry, you can no longer remain within the party's ranks.",1620.14,1626.86,"Says he forced the removal of those who 'não dá mais para conviver nos quadros do partido'.",{"idx":17,"utterance_id":1696,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1697,"start_s":1698,"end_s":1699,"word_count":232,"indexable":178},"103474","Look, I'm not making a pre-judgment, you'll be judged later.",1627.46,1629.88,{"idx":1701,"utterance_id":1702,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1703,"start_s":1704,"end_s":1705,"word_count":225,"indexable":178},239,"103475","Now, this practice is when you have a collegial body.",1630.24,1633.82,{"idx":1707,"utterance_id":1708,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1709,"start_s":1710,"end_s":1711,"word_count":251,"indexable":178},240,"103476","Impeachment is when you have the situation of the President of the Republic.",1634.3,1639.6,{"idx":1713,"utterance_id":1714,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1715,"start_s":1716,"end_s":1717,"word_count":191,"indexable":178},241,"103477","Or if that internal cut is not made—if the STF doesn't want to do it, and if the National Congress tomorrow doesn't want to do it among its members.",1641.04,1648.6,{"idx":1719,"utterance_id":1720,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1721,"start_s":1722,"end_s":1723,"word_count":206,"indexable":178},242,"103478","That's what has to be 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house of the current party president, to the current party president's beach house.",1761.18,1765.96,{"idx":1885,"utterance_id":1886,"speaker_name":175,"text":1887,"start_s":1888,"end_s":1889,"word_count":269,"indexable":178},269,"103505","And it was you who pointed out the person responsible, even in an interview with me at the time.",1766.02,1771.26,{"idx":1891,"utterance_id":1892,"speaker_name":175,"text":1893,"start_s":1894,"end_s":1895,"word_count":223,"indexable":178},270,"103506","You said, 'Luciano Bivar is leaving the party presidency and set fire to Antônio Rueda's house.'",1771.78,1776.2,{"idx":1897,"utterance_id":1898,"speaker_name":175,"text":1899,"start_s":1900,"end_s":1901,"word_count":4,"indexable":178},271,"103507","Okay, later Rueda became a figure who also appears.",1776.8,1781.32,{"idx":1903,"utterance_id":1904,"speaker_name":175,"text":1905,"start_s":1906,"end_s":1907,"word_count":251,"indexable":178},272,"103508","related to cases that, for example, are wearing down the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), the Master.",1781.62,1785.18,{"idx":1909,"utterance_id":1910,"speaker_name":175,"text":1911,"start_s":1912,"end_s":1913,"word_count":257,"indexable":178},273,"103509","He provided, he says he provided, consultancy worth millions also for Daniel Vorcaro.",1785.4,1790.74,{"idx":1915,"utterance_id":1916,"speaker_name":175,"text":1917,"start_s":1918,"end_s":1919,"word_count":293,"indexable":178},274,"103510","So why did you decide to leave the party that you had tried in every way to reform?",1790.78,1795.48,{"idx":1921,"utterance_id":1922,"speaker_name":175,"text":1923,"start_s":1924,"end_s":1925,"word_count":193,"indexable":178},275,"103511","What happened?",1795.52,1796.06,{"idx":1927,"utterance_id":1928,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":1929,"start_s":1930,"end_s":1931,"word_count":218,"indexable":178},276,"103512","Well, in one question you formulated two 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an evaluation of three pre-candidates to know who should be the candidate.",1896.52,1907.64,{"idx":2077,"utterance_id":2078,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2079,"start_s":2080,"end_s":2081,"word_count":293,"indexable":178},301,"103537","I accept that, at least I am certain that the PSD will have a candidate for the Presidency of the Republic.",1907.68,1913.7,{"idx":2083,"utterance_id":2084,"speaker_name":175,"text":2085,"start_s":2086,"end_s":2087,"word_count":245,"indexable":178},302,"103538","But why is that party not with you yet?",1913.78,1915.74,{"idx":2089,"utterance_id":2090,"speaker_name":175,"text":2091,"start_s":2092,"end_s":2093,"word_count":237,"indexable":178},303,"103539","The PSD, practically speaking, because there are six governors that the PSD has, none of them is supporting you.",1916.46,1922.36,{"idx":2095,"utterance_id":2096,"speaker_name":175,"text":2097,"start_s":2098,"end_s":2099,"word_count":193,"indexable":178},304,"103540","Pre-candidates for 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I mean, what kind of position will you have to present yourself as a viable and credible candidate if not even your party is backing you at this moment?",1937.66,1952.04,{"idx":2118,"utterance_id":2119,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2120,"start_s":2121,"end_s":2122,"word_count":43,"indexable":178},308,"103544","First, let's clarify, Zanini, the two governors with the greatest political projection and the highest ratings are supporting me, Paraná and Rio Grande do Sul.",1952.96,1966.68,{"idx":2124,"utterance_id":2125,"speaker_name":175,"text":2126,"start_s":2127,"end_s":2128,"word_count":225,"indexable":178},309,"103545","Rio Grande do Sul, I don't know, right?",1967.8,1969.54,{"idx":2130,"utterance_id":2131,"speaker_name":175,"text":2132,"start_s":2133,"end_s":2134,"word_count":225,"indexable":178},310,"103546","Paraná, okay, all right, with 'cedo' that.",1970.24,1972.14,{"idx":2136,"utterance_id":2137,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2138,"start_s":2139,"end_s":2140,"word_count":339,"indexable":178},311,"103547","But the one from Rio Grande do Sul, he reacted, which is his right, the person stays there, he also had all the conditions to be a candidate.",1972.76,1980,{"idx":2142,"utterance_id":2143,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2144,"start_s":2145,"end_s":2146,"word_count":251,"indexable":178},312,"103548","We've already talked several times, and this Thursday I will be with him.",1980.66,1983.66,{"idx":28,"utterance_id":2148,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2149,"start_s":2150,"end_s":2151,"word_count":4,"indexable":178},"103549","He will receive me there at the Palace, in Porto Alegre.",1984.38,1988.04,{"idx":2153,"utterance_id":2154,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2155,"start_s":2156,"end_s":2157,"word_count":193,"indexable":178},314,"103550","So, two candidates.",1988.82,1989.9,{"idx":2159,"utterance_id":2160,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2161,"start_s":2162,"end_s":2163,"word_count":212,"indexable":178},315,"103551","Now, what is being said?",1990.3,1992.92,{"idx":2165,"utterance_id":2166,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2167,"start_s":2168,"end_s":2169,"word_count":232,"indexable":178},316,"103552","Look, the PSD accepts the realities of the federal entities.",1993.18,1999.66,{"idx":2171,"utterance_id":2172,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2173,"start_s":2174,"end_s":2175,"word_count":218,"indexable":178},317,"103553","It doesn't force me to be supported.",2000.56,2002.64,{"idx":2177,"utterance_id":2178,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2179,"start_s":2180,"end_s":2181,"word_count":232,"indexable":178},318,"103554","But it doesn't prevent me from building my own platform.",2003.5,2005.64,{"idx":2183,"utterance_id":2184,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2185,"start_s":2186,"end_s":2187,"word_count":433,"indexable":178},319,"103555","And do you think... In Bahia, which is the largest electorate in the Northeast and the fourth in Brazil, do you think that the platform with CM Neto is smaller than the platform that the PSD will have?",2007.04,2021.84,{"idx":2189,"utterance_id":2190,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2191,"start_s":2192,"end_s":2193,"word_count":186,"indexable":178},320,"103556","On the contrary.",2022.08,2022.78,{"idx":2195,"utterance_id":2196,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2197,"start_s":2198,"end_s":2199,"word_count":212,"indexable":178},321,"103557","We are going to win the election in Bahia.",2023.92,2025.22,{"idx":2201,"utterance_id":2202,"speaker_name":175,"text":2203,"start_s":2204,"end_s":2205,"word_count":257,"indexable":178},322,"103558","But the other states, São Paulo, you don't have a platform, for example.",2025.26,2027.08,{"idx":2207,"utterance_id":2208,"speaker_name":175,"text":2209,"start_s":2210,"end_s":2211,"word_count":186,"indexable":178},323,"103559","How not?",2027.12,2027.52,{"idx":2213,"utterance_id":2214,"speaker_name":175,"text":2215,"start_s":2216,"end_s":2217,"word_count":206,"indexable":178},324,"103560","Who is on your platform?",2027.9,2028.54,{"idx":2219,"utterance_id":2220,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2221,"start_s":2222,"end_s":2223,"word_count":212,"indexable":178},325,"103561","Do you think that, for example... Tarcísio?",2028.8,2030.62,{"idx":2225,"utterance_id":2226,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2227,"start_s":2228,"end_s":2229,"word_count":199,"indexable":178},326,"103562","But why not?",2031.48,2032.06,{"idx":2231,"utterance_id":2232,"speaker_name":175,"text":2233,"start_s":2234,"end_s":2235,"word_count":212,"indexable":178},327,"103563","Tarcísio will support Flávio, right?",2033.06,2033.96,{"idx":2237,"utterance_id":2238,"speaker_name":175,"text":2239,"start_s":2240,"end_s":2241,"word_count":199,"indexable":178},328,"103564","The PSD's structure...",2034.04,2035.1,{"idx":2243,"utterance_id":2244,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":2245,"start_s":2246,"end_s":2247,"word_count":218,"indexable":178},329,"103565","It is the largest municipal structure that exists.",2035.94,2038.32,{"idx":2249,"utterance_id":2250,"speaker_name":175,"text":2251,"start_s":2252,"end_s":2253,"word_count":232,"indexable":178},330,"103566","Rio de Janeiro supports Lula, Eduardo 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with organized crime","proposes 'algemar e prender' the suspected politician immediately.",{"idx":4059,"utterance_id":4060,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":4061,"start_s":4062,"end_s":4063,"word_count":193,"indexable":178},619,"103855","Why not?",3140.12,3140.66,{"idx":4065,"utterance_id":4066,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":4067,"start_s":4068,"end_s":4069,"word_count":212,"indexable":178},620,"103856","Now make me president, Dani.",3141.96,3144.06,{"idx":4071,"utterance_id":4072,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":4073,"start_s":4074,"end_s":4075,"word_count":218,"indexable":178},621,"103857","Make me president, that's all.",3144.74,3146.56,{"idx":4077,"utterance_id":4078,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":4079,"start_s":4080,"end_s":4081,"word_count":251,"indexable":178},622,"103858","No one in life wants to be president more than I 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eats Lubeca's bribes, that was Brazil's first mensalão, I was the one who denounced it.",3810.1,3821.26,"9ebc9fc9-353a-41fb-ae7f-21f70c06830a","prevent, identify, investigate, and punish cases of corruption","Accuses someone else of corruption and says he denounced it (an act of denunciation).",{"idx":5137,"utterance_id":5138,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":5139,"start_s":5140,"end_s":5141,"word_count":225,"indexable":178},786,"104022","That is recognized by the entire national media.",3821.74,3824.02,{"idx":5143,"utterance_id":5144,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":5145,"start_s":5146,"end_s":5147,"word_count":293,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":31,"target_id":5133,"target_proposition":5134,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":289,"rationale":5148,"indexable":291},787,"104023","First bribe-eater, mensalão, Lula, who received from Lubeca, which was a real-estate arm of Bugiborne.",3824.46,3831.68,"Reiterates the accusation of 'comedor de propina' and of the 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there?",3839.4,3841.52,{"idx":5169,"utterance_id":5170,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":5171,"start_s":5172,"end_s":5173,"word_count":204,"indexable":178},791,"104027","These days, if you haven't seen it yet, they put a full cape of me mounted on my mule.",3842.98,3847.68,{"idx":5175,"utterance_id":5176,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":5177,"start_s":5178,"end_s":5179,"word_count":257,"indexable":178},792,"104028","I am passionate, I'm a muleteer, I'm a drover, I maintain Goiás's history.",3847.72,3852.38,{"idx":5181,"utterance_id":5182,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":5183,"start_s":5184,"end_s":5185,"word_count":225,"indexable":178},793,"104029","I have a mule, I'm passionate about her, you understand?",3852.72,3855.7,{"idx":5187,"utterance_id":5188,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":5189,"start_s":5190,"end_s":5191,"word_count":251,"indexable":178},794,"104030","So I have a mule of mine that even asks for votes, you 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sport.",3867,3869.8,{"idx":5217,"utterance_id":5218,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":5219,"start_s":5220,"end_s":5221,"word_count":199,"indexable":178},799,"104035","I am passionate.",3870.18,3871.16,{"idx":5223,"utterance_id":5224,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":5225,"start_s":5226,"end_s":5227,"word_count":199,"indexable":178},800,"104036","And to moar too.",3871.62,3872.38,{"idx":5229,"utterance_id":5230,"speaker_name":175,"text":5231,"start_s":5232,"end_s":5233,"word_count":237,"indexable":178},801,"104037","Folks, well, if that served as an appetizer, you can already feel that the debates in this 2026 election will be... heated.",3872.72,3882.4,{"idx":5235,"utterance_id":5236,"speaker_name":175,"text":5237,"start_s":5238,"end_s":5239,"word_count":4,"indexable":178},802,"104038","Governor, I want to thank you very much for your presence here.",3882.82,3886.58,{"idx":5241,"utterance_id":5242,"speaker_name":175,"text":5243,"start_s":5244,"end_s":5245,"word_count":204,"indexable":178},803,"104039","Thank you for your frankness, energy, willingness and honesty in the intellectual debate, which is a hallmark of your trajectory.",3886.82,3895.34,{"idx":5247,"utterance_id":5248,"speaker_name":175,"text":5249,"start_s":5250,"end_s":5251,"word_count":339,"indexable":178},804,"104040","I wish you the best of luck, good work, and we'll be here giving you a hard time, as always, as we have for a long time, following everything.",3895.8,3904.08,{"idx":5253,"utterance_id":5254,"speaker_name":175,"text":5255,"start_s":5256,"end_s":5257,"word_count":186,"indexable":178},805,"104041","Thank you, Governor.",3904.12,3904.86,{"idx":5259,"utterance_id":5260,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":5261,"start_s":5262,"end_s":5263,"word_count":15,"indexable":178},806,"104042","Look, folks, I'm the one who thanks you very much because I think I'm so... so eager to get back into the debate that you can't imagine how much I want to be able to return to the debate in this election.",3905.72,3915.08,{"idx":5265,"utterance_id":5266,"speaker_name":114,"speaker_slug":113,"text":5267,"start_s":5268,"end_s":5269,"word_count":251,"topic_slug":5270,"topic_label":5271,"target_id":5272,"target_proposition":5273,"stance":288,"stance_confidence":3055,"rationale":5274,"indexable":291},807,"104043","I think there has to be the beauty of debate, don't you think?",3915.12,3917.4,"processo-eleitoral","Electoral Process","a5ed9167-bda0-4bb4-8285-7f0df238e764","require debating ability and qualifications from candidates","Defends the 'beleza do debate' and criticizes candidates who are 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week.",3927.26,3970,"en",{"job_id":5325,"title":5326,"source_url":5327,"platform":5328,"content_type":5329,"published_at":5330,"duration_sec":5331,"n_classified":5332,"speakers":5333},"39d6eda8-512d-4e9a-9caf-dccffc30772a","Daniela Lima e Fábio Zanini entrevistam Caiado sobre pré-candidatura à Presidência, eleições e mais","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.youtube.com\u002Fwatch?v=DGKqLldrf5I","youtube","video","2026-04-06T23:06:06Z",3970.008563,816,[5334],{"name":114,"slug":113,"photo_url":119,"n_falas":3468},"https:\u002F\u002Fi.ytimg.com\u002Fvi\u002FDGKqLldrf5I\u002Fhqdefault.jpg"]