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depend on politics, I don't depend on political money, I don't live off politics and I don't want to have a long political career, I want to put my name forward this time.",2387.3,2395.68,{"idx":3930,"utterance_id":3931,"speaker_name":146,"speaker_slug":145,"text":3932,"start_s":3933,"end_s":3934,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},635,"218256","If I have the privilege of sitting in the president's chair, I am against re-election and will leave, not to run again.",2396.1,2401.24,{"idx":3936,"utterance_id":3937,"speaker_name":146,"speaker_slug":145,"text":3938,"start_s":3939,"end_s":3940,"word_count":242,"indexable":181},636,"218257","I want to tell you the following: public money is sacred.",2402.18,2405,{"idx":3942,"utterance_id":3943,"speaker_name":203,"text":3944,"start_s":3945,"end_s":3946,"word_count":248,"indexable":181},637,"218258","It is yours, it belongs to everyone... 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excellent term, other people will continue the story.",2416.3,2420.3,{"idx":1341,"utterance_id":3978,"speaker_name":146,"speaker_slug":145,"text":3979,"start_s":3980,"end_s":3981,"word_count":340,"indexable":181},"218264","Now, if you do a term where you have a group of friends, you have the need to preserve your ego, your personal project, then you will create enemies.",2420.6,2430.78,{"idx":3983,"utterance_id":3984,"speaker_name":146,"speaker_slug":145,"text":3985,"start_s":3986,"end_s":3987,"word_count":289,"indexable":181},644,"218265","If it's a shorter and more efficient term, including with artificial intelligence... with cost reduction, with celerity.",2431.14,2438.7,{"idx":3989,"utterance_id":3990,"speaker_name":203,"text":3991,"start_s":3992,"end_s":3993,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},645,"218266","But the presidential system itself 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How will the government do it, how will France do it, how will Germany do it, how will Brazil do it.",5731.94,5739.46,{"idx":22,"utterance_id":9548,"speaker_name":146,"speaker_slug":145,"text":9549,"start_s":9550,"end_s":9551,"word_count":225,"indexable":181},"219201","We then have to have a distributed economy.",5739.94,5742.6,{"idx":9553,"utterance_id":9554,"speaker_name":146,"speaker_slug":145,"text":9555,"start_s":9556,"end_s":9557,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},1581,"219202","I've been talking with economists.",5742.62,5744.78,{"idx":9559,"utterance_id":9560,"speaker_name":146,"speaker_slug":145,"text":9561,"start_s":9562,"end_s":9563,"word_count":315,"indexable":181},1582,"219203","The only possibility of getting past the avalanche, the earthquake of artificial intelligence is to have millions of microenterprises financed at low interest rates, as I 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It can be a big advantage, because if I had experience...",5891.5,5896.48,{"idx":9786,"utterance_id":9787,"speaker_name":203,"text":9788,"start_s":9789,"end_s":9790,"word_count":219,"indexable":181},1620,"219241","It's a naivety that can be good.",5896.5,5899.86,{"idx":9792,"utterance_id":9793,"speaker_name":203,"text":9794,"start_s":9795,"end_s":9796,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},1621,"219242","It can be good.",5900.32,5900.84,{"idx":9798,"utterance_id":9799,"speaker_name":176,"text":9800,"start_s":9801,"end_s":9802,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},1622,"219243","Because people say, no, this guy is no use, he's not in the system, he doesn't know how things work, 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I wish you all the luck in the world in your campaign, but to finish you have that camera and now is the time to, you said, why not choose other people, why choose Augusto Cury as today's pre-candidate, who knows a candidate in July?",6810.4,6836.86,{"idx":11867,"utterance_id":11868,"speaker_name":176,"text":11869,"start_s":11870,"end_s":11871,"word_count":201,"indexable":181},1971,"219592","When does it come 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