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Damir Algarra, pre-candidate for state deputy of PT.",1063.6,1084.78,{"idx":803,"utterance_id":804,"speaker_name":176,"text":805,"start_s":806,"end_s":807,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},106,"165245","Eduardo Aécio Ribeiro, president of PT of São Paulo.",1084.8,1087.46,{"idx":809,"utterance_id":810,"speaker_name":176,"text":811,"start_s":812,"end_s":813,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},107,"165246","Thank you, Aécio.",1087.48,1088.6,{"idx":815,"utterance_id":816,"speaker_name":176,"text":817,"start_s":818,"end_s":819,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},108,"165247","Romildo Campello, from the Green Party.",1088.88,1091.7,{"idx":821,"utterance_id":822,"speaker_name":176,"text":823,"start_s":824,"end_s":825,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},109,"165248","Marcos Martins, spokesperson of Rede in São Paulo, municipal.",1092.18,1096.94,{"idx":827,"utterance_id":828,"speaker_name":176,"text":829,"start_s":830,"end_s":831,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},110,"165249","Josi, public 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users.",1132.88,1136.36,{"idx":887,"utterance_id":888,"speaker_name":176,"text":889,"start_s":890,"end_s":891,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},120,"165259","So, for 10 minutes, our dear coordinator — rather, of the Food and Nutritional Security Sector of PT of the State of São Paulo.",1137.68,1154.36,{"idx":893,"utterance_id":894,"speaker_name":176,"text":895,"start_s":896,"end_s":897,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},121,"165260","So, for 10 minutes, Marcelo.",1154.9,1156.9,{"idx":899,"utterance_id":900,"speaker_name":176,"text":901,"start_s":902,"end_s":903,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},122,"165261","Thank you, Deputy Emílio.",1159.16,1161.4,{"idx":905,"utterance_id":906,"speaker_name":176,"text":907,"start_s":908,"end_s":909,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},123,"165262","and coordinator of the government of Professor Fernando Batardi.",1161.44,1165.1,{"idx":911,"utterance_id":912,"speaker_name":176,"text":913,"start_s":914,"end_s":915,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},124,"165263","The person to whom I pay my respects at this table, we had the opportunity to implement the food security policy during Mayor Haddad's administration, from 2013 to 2016, in the capital.",1165.98,1179.08,{"idx":917,"utterance_id":918,"speaker_name":176,"text":919,"start_s":920,"end_s":921,"word_count":27,"indexable":181},125,"165264","And I know that we have some points, some legacies, indeed, from that endeavor, so that it can also be worked on in the effective implementation of food and nutritional security policy in the State of São Paulo.",1179.76,1196.62,{"idx":923,"utterance_id":924,"speaker_name":176,"text":925,"start_s":926,"end_s":927,"word_count":349,"indexable":181},126,"165265","I would also like to thank the presence of all the... representatives of social governments, institutions and researchers who have worked firmly on this theme and have contributed to building the proposals.",1196.92,1214.96,{"idx":929,"utterance_id":930,"speaker_name":176,"text":931,"start_s":932,"end_s":933,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},127,"165266","The food security collective also has representation within that group.",1215.2,1220.92,{"idx":935,"utterance_id":936,"speaker_name":176,"text":937,"start_s":938,"end_s":939,"word_count":503,"indexable":181},128,"165267","Also thank the representatives of the PT-run city halls that have set an example, even as a counterpoint to all that the State of São Paulo... has done in dismantling food security policy: the administration of Araraquara, of Mayor Edinho; the administration of Mauá, of Mayor Marcelo; the administration of Mayor Felipe, of Diadema; and Matão as well.",1221.46,1245.26,{"idx":941,"utterance_id":942,"speaker_name":176,"text":943,"start_s":944,"end_s":945,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},129,"165268","These references also end up illuminating and helping to encourage municipalities that are abandoned by the State to create their own municipal public policy.",1245.64,1257.5,{"idx":947,"utterance_id":948,"speaker_name":176,"text":949,"start_s":950,"end_s":951,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},130,"165269","Mayor Haddad created, implemented and institutionalized the Food and Nutritional Security Policy in the City Hall of São Paulo.",1259.1,1268.98,{"idx":953,"utterance_id":954,"speaker_name":176,"text":955,"start_s":956,"end_s":957,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},131,"165270","He created the Quinta da Economia program, for R$2.99 per kilo of 20 products that were sold in greengrocers and municipal markets.",1269.46,1279.6,{"idx":959,"utterance_id":960,"speaker_name":176,"text":961,"start_s":962,"end_s":963,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},132,"165271","He executed for the first time in history the federal government's food purchase program, R$3.2 million.",1281.4,1287.58,{"idx":965,"utterance_id":966,"speaker_name":176,"text":967,"start_s":968,"end_s":969,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},133,"165272","serving about 600 farmers from the State of São Paulo, and a huge logistics operation to deliver those foods to about 500,000 people here in the capital, in a decentralized manner.",1289.38,1304.28,{"idx":62,"utterance_id":971,"speaker_name":176,"text":972,"start_s":973,"end_s":974,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},"165273","He created the metropolitan network of food banks, which also enabled the municipalities of Greater São Paulo to benefit from that structure.",1305.12,1316.38,{"idx":976,"utterance_id":977,"speaker_name":176,"text":978,"start_s":979,"end_s":980,"word_count":491,"indexable":181},135,"165274","He created the reference center for security, the first center with municipal public management of food and nutritional security, where the focus on food and nutritional education was a priority, including community gardens and the promotion of organized civil society, but above all the ongoing training and capacity-building of municipal managers from the most diverse areas.",1318.3,1345.08,{"idx":982,"utterance_id":983,"speaker_name":176,"text":984,"start_s":985,"end_s":986,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},136,"165275","They came from environment, social assistance and so on.",1345.62,1349.18,{"idx":988,"utterance_id":989,"speaker_name":176,"text":990,"start_s":991,"end_s":992,"word_count":527,"indexable":181},137,"165276","He delivered first the municipal food security plan, delivered the agricultural patrol to the Parelheiros region, where more than 300 family farmers were able to have the opportunity to be convinced that the administration was there to encourage production for food consumption and not for the production of ornamental plants, which was what had been developed there.",1349.62,1374.38,{"idx":994,"utterance_id":995,"speaker_name":176,"text":996,"start_s":997,"end_s":998,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},138,"165277","in the Parelheiros region.",1375.7,1376.9,{"idx":51,"utterance_id":1000,"speaker_name":176,"text":1001,"start_s":1002,"end_s":1003,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},"165278","He organized Cooperabas, which was one of the largest cooperatives in the Parelheiros region.",1377.9,1382.92,{"idx":1005,"utterance_id":1006,"speaker_name":176,"text":1007,"start_s":1008,"end_s":1009,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},140,"165279","He was awarded by the Bloomberg Foundation, with 5,000 dollars, for all this articulation of Línguas Pontos, actually developing intersectorality in management.",1383.24,1395.56,{"idx":1011,"utterance_id":1012,"speaker_name":176,"text":1013,"start_s":1014,"end_s":1015,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},141,"165280","He studied social participation through the Comuzã Council.",1396.22,1399.68,{"idx":1017,"utterance_id":1018,"speaker_name":176,"text":1019,"start_s":1020,"end_s":1021,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},142,"165281","Comuzã is a reference municipal council for all of Brazil.",1400.08,1403.58,{"idx":1023,"utterance_id":1024,"speaker_name":176,"text":1025,"start_s":1026,"end_s":1027,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},143,"165282","representation, where civil society always composed and collaborated in the drafting of public policies through the Intersecretarial Chamber, through the working group formed by Comuzã.",1405.36,1418.74,{"idx":1029,"utterance_id":1030,"speaker_name":176,"text":1031,"start_s":1032,"end_s":1033,"word_count":557,"indexable":181},144,"165283","Together with the Intersecretarial Management Chamber, it executed about 27% of the purchase of family farming food and the gradual implementation of organic food, school meals, and this is a legacy that later reflected in other large capitals of Brazil, causing São Paulo to gradually include organic products and created the Rural Development Council here in the municipality of São Paulo.",1418.9,1452.04,{"idx":1035,"utterance_id":1036,"speaker_name":176,"text":1037,"start_s":1038,"end_s":1039,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},145,"165284","There are people who sometimes do not grasp the scale and importance of this rural area and the encouragement and promotion of production.",1452.12,1460.68,{"idx":1041,"utterance_id":1042,"speaker_name":176,"text":1043,"start_s":1044,"end_s":1045,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},146,"165285","of local agriculture.",1461.38,1462.64,{"idx":1047,"utterance_id":1048,"speaker_name":176,"text":1049,"start_s":1050,"end_s":1051,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},147,"165286","So, these are some points that were important in Mayor Haddad's administration and that can, in fact, be a source of encouragement for this issue.",1462.68,1474.12,{"idx":1053,"utterance_id":1054,"speaker_name":176,"text":1055,"start_s":1056,"end_s":1057,"word_count":515,"indexable":181},148,"165287","The 13 points that we selected here for the government plan, I will speak very briefly, but focused on the entire discussion we had with Professor Aldaís, Abigail and other collectives, so that we can unify and seek something that truly provokes intersectorality between these two systems, SUAS and CISAM.",1474.18,1495.86,{"idx":39,"utterance_id":1059,"speaker_name":176,"text":1060,"start_s":1061,"end_s":1062,"word_count":15,"indexable":181},"165288","So, it is to reestablish the overcoming of hunger and the guarantee of food and nutritional security sovereignty as a primary responsibility of the State of São Paulo and a priority of its powers.",1496.44,1509.54,{"idx":1064,"utterance_id":1065,"speaker_name":176,"text":1066,"start_s":1067,"end_s":1068,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},150,"165289","Resume and strengthen the implementation of CISAM, which is the food and nutritional security system, extremely weakened in recent years.",1510.2,1518.78,{"idx":1070,"utterance_id":1071,"speaker_name":176,"text":1072,"start_s":1073,"end_s":1074,"word_count":491,"indexable":181},151,"165290","So, resume that protagonism, refound the State Council of Food and Nutritional Security, together with the regional commissions, and then we point out, as Professor Aldaísa states, the autonomy of the regions, the encouragement of regional development, to make these regions actually be able to develop, guided by a state directive of public policy.",1519.52,1548.78,{"idx":1076,"utterance_id":1077,"speaker_name":176,"text":1078,"start_s":1079,"end_s":1080,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},152,"165291","of food and nutritional security.",1549.64,1551.74,{"idx":1082,"utterance_id":1083,"speaker_name":176,"text":1084,"start_s":1085,"end_s":1086,"word_count":338,"indexable":181},153,"165292","Thus, strengthening the regional commissions and, above all, the participation and protagonism of civil society through its institutions and the city halls of those regions.",1552.04,1566.18,{"idx":1088,"utterance_id":1089,"speaker_name":176,"text":1090,"start_s":1091,"end_s":1092,"word_count":322,"indexable":181},154,"165293","Reestablish and institute a functioning CAISAM, where the State secretaries can participate and, from there, draw directives and delegate to the technical teams.",1566.94,1578.16,{"idx":1094,"utterance_id":1095,"speaker_name":176,"text":1096,"start_s":1097,"end_s":1098,"word_count":521,"indexable":181},155,"165294","That which can be developed and implemented in this food security agenda in São Paulo: promote and structure the networks of sovereignty and food and nutritional security facilities, creating and reactivating, strengthening facilities such as food banks, popular restaurants, guaranteeing at least one good meal for municipalities of up to 100,000 inhabitants in the State of São Paulo.",1578.56,1605.94,{"idx":1100,"utterance_id":1101,"speaker_name":176,"text":1102,"start_s":1103,"end_s":1104,"word_count":232,"indexable":181},156,"165295","And Bom Prato also being recharacterized, offering breakfast, lunch, food and nutritional education activities, because we have a very high frequency in these restaurants, mayor, which are elderly people and people living on the streets.",1606.82,1624.62,{"idx":1106,"utterance_id":1107,"speaker_name":176,"text":1108,"start_s":1109,"end_s":1110,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},157,"165296","Thus, integrate the action of food and nutritional education together with the regional pop centers along this line as well.",1625.02,1633.32,{"idx":1112,"utterance_id":1113,"speaker_name":176,"text":1114,"start_s":1115,"end_s":1116,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},158,"165297","Revise the Viva Leite program.",1634.52,1636.36,{"idx":1118,"utterance_id":1119,"speaker_name":176,"text":1120,"start_s":1121,"end_s":1122,"word_count":375,"indexable":181},159,"165298","In fact, the idea is to propose a Healthy São Paulo program, including not only the milk that is offered today by the State government, used as a bargaining chip, including in electoral matters.",1636.82,1653.28,{"idx":1124,"utterance_id":1125,"speaker_name":176,"text":1126,"start_s":1127,"end_s":1128,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},160,"165299","Many people here follow this in the cities of the State, especially the... small ones, the more vulnerable; we know that this is handled in that way.",1653.32,1665.86,{"idx":1130,"utterance_id":1131,"speaker_name":176,"text":1132,"start_s":1133,"end_s":1134,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},161,"165300","And it is necessary to resume and make Viva Leite be transformed into São Paulo Saudável, offering much more protein, offering eggs as well, fruits and vegetables, so you can diversify the matter.",1665.9,1679.58,{"idx":1136,"utterance_id":1137,"speaker_name":176,"text":1138,"start_s":1139,"end_s":1140,"word_count":322,"indexable":181},162,"165301","Food and nutritional support of those families who receive the foods, taking advantage above all of the structure that the program already has spread throughout the State via the municipalities.",1680.18,1693.6,{"idx":1142,"utterance_id":1143,"speaker_name":176,"text":1144,"start_s":1145,"end_s":1146,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},163,"165302","Rebuild the budget, the participatory management structure and social control of the programs, institutional purchases, integrating with the federal and state ones.",1695.66,1706.64,{"idx":1148,"utterance_id":1149,"speaker_name":176,"text":1150,"start_s":1151,"end_s":1152,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},164,"165303","State, moreover, of family and peasant agriculture, prioritizing rural women, traditional indigenous peoples, quilombolas, and agroecological production, with a food purchase program, even state-level, why not?",1707.06,1721.64,{"idx":1154,"utterance_id":1155,"speaker_name":176,"text":1156,"start_s":1157,"end_s":1158,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},165,"165304","We should open a front with its own resources and budget line, considering the diversity of agricultural production in the State of São Paulo.",1722.52,1732.02,{"idx":1160,"utterance_id":1161,"speaker_name":176,"text":1162,"start_s":1163,"end_s":1164,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},166,"165305","The guideline of the PNAE program, to recover its previous objectives, I'll finish.",1733.1,1740.14,{"idx":1166,"utterance_id":1167,"speaker_name":176,"text":1168,"start_s":1169,"end_s":1170,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},167,"165306","Guarantee access to adequate food, especially for schoolchildren.",1740.24,1743.78,{"idx":1172,"utterance_id":1173,"speaker_name":176,"text":1174,"start_s":1175,"end_s":1176,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},168,"165307","Today we have a deficit that we have monitored, unfortunately, malnourished children.",1743.82,1749.12,{"idx":1178,"utterance_id":1179,"speaker_name":176,"text":1180,"start_s":1181,"end_s":1182,"word_count":349,"indexable":181},169,"165308","We cannot, as the State of São Paulo, allow our children not to have the minimum of healthy food, because a child who has this nutritional deficit is malnourished.",1749.16,1761.9,{"idx":1184,"utterance_id":1185,"speaker_name":176,"text":1186,"start_s":1187,"end_s":1188,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},170,"165309","Cognitively, she will have very serious health problems that will prevent her from becoming a healthy, full adult, unfortunately.",1762.3,1771.88,{"idx":1190,"utterance_id":1191,"speaker_name":176,"text":1192,"start_s":1193,"end_s":1194,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},171,"165310","So, I think it is indeed the role of the State to guarantee this right, and this violation is a crime.",1772.12,1777.58,{"idx":1196,"utterance_id":1197,"speaker_name":176,"text":1198,"start_s":1199,"end_s":1200,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},172,"165311","So let's focus on this issue.",1778.06,1781.12,{"idx":1202,"utterance_id":1203,"speaker_name":176,"text":1204,"start_s":1205,"end_s":1206,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},173,"165312","Create an emergency fund to combat hunger in the State of São Paulo, managed and monitored by the State Council of Food Security and the commissions.",1781.46,1790.54,{"idx":1208,"utterance_id":1209,"speaker_name":176,"text":1210,"start_s":1211,"end_s":1212,"word_count":349,"indexable":181},174,"165313","Promote and coordinate measures that contribute to the transition to fair, healthy and resilient food systems, which is indeed a target of the SDGs, the UN and so on.",1791,1801.98,{"idx":1214,"utterance_id":1215,"speaker_name":176,"text":1216,"start_s":1217,"end_s":1218,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},175,"165314","Expand and qualify the infrastructure of basic services in rural territories: water, electricity, education, leisure, digital inclusion, storage and processing infrastructure for food production.",1802.86,1815.76,{"idx":1220,"utterance_id":1221,"speaker_name":176,"text":1222,"start_s":1223,"end_s":1224,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},176,"165315","Foster democratization.",1816.32,1817.94,{"idx":1226,"utterance_id":1227,"speaker_name":176,"text":1228,"start_s":1229,"end_s":1230,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},177,"165316","of supply systems, including through the encouragement of the social and solidarity economy.",1818.32,1824.32,{"idx":45,"utterance_id":1232,"speaker_name":176,"text":1233,"start_s":1234,"end_s":1235,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},"165317","I am already moving toward the conclusion.",1825.02,1826.44,{"idx":1237,"utterance_id":1238,"speaker_name":176,"text":1239,"start_s":1240,"end_s":1241,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},179,"165318","Supporting new forms and regional arrangements, promoting urban planning policy, such as the culture of the right to the city, which puts an end to food deserts.",1827.4,1839.84,{"idx":1243,"utterance_id":1244,"speaker_name":176,"text":1245,"start_s":1246,"end_s":1247,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},180,"165319","For example, São Paulo has 880 open-air markets that operate.",1840.3,1844.74,{"idx":1249,"utterance_id":1250,"speaker_name":176,"text":1251,"start_s":1252,"end_s":1253,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},181,"165320","They were under our administration at the time.",1844.84,1848.12,{"idx":1255,"utterance_id":1256,"speaker_name":176,"text":1257,"start_s":1258,"end_s":1259,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},182,"165321","But, unfortunately, sometimes we could not reach these food deserts, because in the call for vendors the market sellers had no interest due to the regions being vulnerable.",1848.24,1860.98,{"idx":1261,"utterance_id":1262,"speaker_name":176,"text":1263,"start_s":1264,"end_s":1265,"word_count":349,"indexable":181},183,"165322","Make the State of São Paulo a reference for municipalities in the management of co-financing, adopt the Food Guide for the Population as a quality parameter for state policies.",1861.5,1872.12,{"idx":1267,"utterance_id":1268,"speaker_name":176,"text":1269,"start_s":1270,"end_s":1271,"word_count":444,"indexable":181},184,"165323","Mobilize the educational system, science and technology and innovation, in an alliance with civil society organizations, for the creation of regional reference centers, with the objective of articulating and integrating actions of social policies, encouraging the guarantee and promotion of the human right to adequate food.",1872.66,1893.72,{"idx":1273,"utterance_id":1274,"speaker_name":176,"text":1275,"start_s":1276,"end_s":1277,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},185,"165324","Thank you.",1922.26,1922.82,{"idx":1279,"utterance_id":1280,"speaker_name":176,"text":1281,"start_s":1282,"end_s":1283,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},186,"165325","From Councilwoman Juliana Cardoso, councilwoman of São Paulo and pre-candidate for federal deputy, Tiago Storato — I understand Storato — pre-candidate for state deputy of PT.",1923.44,1937.42,{"idx":1285,"utterance_id":1286,"speaker_name":176,"text":1287,"start_s":1288,"end_s":1289,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},187,"165326","And now, also for 10 minutes, Abigail Silvestre Torres, who is a researcher and also from NEP, the State Center for Public Policies.",1938.36,1949.26,{"idx":1291,"utterance_id":1292,"speaker_name":176,"text":1293,"start_s":1294,"end_s":1295,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},188,"165327","Good evening to all the people present here.",1951.84,1955.46,{"idx":1297,"utterance_id":1298,"speaker_name":176,"text":1299,"start_s":1300,"end_s":1301,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},189,"165328","Good evening, good time, Professor Haddad.",1956.02,1959.34,{"idx":11,"utterance_id":1303,"speaker_name":176,"text":1304,"start_s":1305,"end_s":1306,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},"165329","Huge gratitude for this opportunity.",1960.56,1962.92,{"idx":1308,"utterance_id":1309,"speaker_name":176,"text":1310,"start_s":1311,"end_s":1312,"word_count":15,"indexable":181},191,"165330","I am here representing a broad collective of activists of the Unified Social Assistance System of the State of São Paulo, researchers, workers, public servants, but also social organizations.",1962.98,1980.36,{"idx":1314,"utterance_id":1315,"speaker_name":176,"text":1316,"start_s":1317,"end_s":1318,"word_count":43,"indexable":181},192,"165331","To whom I thank for the trust and ask for much energy so that we can leave here our message, our agenda of strengthening this public policy.",1980.94,1993.08,{"idx":1320,"utterance_id":1321,"speaker_name":176,"text":1322,"start_s":1323,"end_s":1324,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},193,"165332","I want to begin by saying that the Unified Social Assistance System, insufficiently known, is a civilizational pact unprecedented in the country's history.",1994.66,2007.22,{"idx":1326,"utterance_id":1327,"speaker_name":176,"text":1328,"start_s":1329,"end_s":1330,"word_count":444,"indexable":181},194,"165333","It is a moment in which the Brazilian State assumes its responsibility in combating the historical and structural inequalities that produced an extremely verticalized society, based on the logic of privilege and meritocracy, to the detriment of citizenship, the exercise of rights, including access to public policies.",2008.16,2034.84,{"idx":1332,"utterance_id":1333,"speaker_name":176,"text":1334,"start_s":1335,"end_s":1336,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},195,"165334","which, by not being universalized, also become privileges.",2035.18,2038.82,{"idx":1338,"utterance_id":1339,"speaker_name":176,"text":1340,"start_s":1341,"end_s":1342,"word_count":438,"indexable":181},196,"165335","A strategic moment for the approval of SUS, because it assumes the logic that to achieve equality public policies are necessary, which, without moral judgment and with respect, welcome those who suffer from this inequality and produce other ways of living and being in society.",2039.7,2064.04,{"idx":56,"utterance_id":1344,"speaker_name":176,"text":1345,"start_s":1346,"end_s":1347,"word_count":375,"indexable":181},"165336","The bet of SUAS is that in a country so unequal and so intolerant of its differences, combating injustices requires State action, requires public protection, and that is not found on market shelves.",2064.82,2083.7,{"idx":1349,"utterance_id":1350,"speaker_name":176,"text":1351,"start_s":1352,"end_s":1353,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},198,"165337","In the foundations of SUAS, the idea intervenes that when there is a violation of rights, offering money alone is not enough.",2084.9,2094.02,{"idx":1355,"utterance_id":1356,"speaker_name":176,"text":1357,"start_s":1358,"end_s":1359,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},199,"165338","It is necessary to acknowledge that there was an injustice for which collective reparation is appropriate.",2094.88,2103.14,{"idx":1361,"utterance_id":1362,"speaker_name":176,"text":1363,"start_s":1364,"end_s":1365,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},200,"165339","There are many hungers in this country and in this very wealthy State.",2103.96,2108.32,{"idx":1367,"utterance_id":1368,"speaker_name":176,"text":1369,"start_s":1370,"end_s":1371,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},201,"165340","Hunger for food is one of them, but the hunger for dignity, for respect, the hunger for peace, are equally important.",2108.96,2117.64,{"idx":1373,"utterance_id":1374,"speaker_name":176,"text":1375,"start_s":1376,"end_s":1377,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},202,"165341","The standard of citizenship expressed in SUAS is not one of mere survival.",2118.12,2122.62,{"idx":1379,"utterance_id":1380,"speaker_name":176,"text":1381,"start_s":1382,"end_s":1383,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},203,"165342","It is one of equality.",2123,2124.54,{"idx":1385,"utterance_id":1386,"speaker_name":176,"text":1387,"start_s":1388,"end_s":1389,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},204,"165343","You do not combat racism, femicide, homophobia, transphobia without public policy aimed at protecting the victims of those practices.",2125.64,2137.84,{"idx":1391,"utterance_id":1392,"speaker_name":176,"text":1393,"start_s":1394,"end_s":1395,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},205,"165344","To ensure human rights, it is not enough to hold aggressors accountable and compensate victims.",2138.42,2145.18,{"idx":1397,"utterance_id":1398,"speaker_name":176,"text":1399,"start_s":1400,"end_s":1401,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},206,"165345","It is necessary to protect those people, to confront the traumas of the violations.",2145.7,2152.02,{"idx":1403,"utterance_id":1404,"speaker_name":176,"text":1405,"start_s":1406,"end_s":1407,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},207,"165346","to offer opportunities to live other relationships, to respect narratives, to broaden spaces for speaking — it is necessary to be present, to follow up and not to victimize.",2152.4,2165.34,{"idx":1409,"utterance_id":1410,"speaker_name":176,"text":1411,"start_s":1412,"end_s":1413,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},208,"165347","São Paulo is unequal.",2166.18,2167.6,{"idx":1415,"utterance_id":1416,"speaker_name":176,"text":1417,"start_s":1418,"end_s":1419,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},209,"165348","And because it has financial, technological and scientific resources to confront inequality, it becomes even more perverse, because it makes clear that omission is a choice.",2168.3,2181.28,{"idx":1421,"utterance_id":1422,"speaker_name":176,"text":1423,"start_s":1424,"end_s":1425,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},210,"165349","a choice of lack of commitment.",2181.72,2183.38,{"idx":1427,"utterance_id":1428,"speaker_name":176,"text":1429,"start_s":1430,"end_s":1431,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},211,"165350","It is a choice to strengthen isolated philanthropic actions, to strengthen showy first-aid, a choice to feed those who live off inequality and use it for political and media projection.",2183.92,2201.2,{"idx":1433,"utterance_id":1434,"speaker_name":176,"text":1435,"start_s":1436,"end_s":1437,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},212,"165351","And faced with so much inequality, São Paulo deliberately decided not to confront a protection system.",2202.48,2211.18,{"idx":1439,"utterance_id":1440,"speaker_name":176,"text":1441,"start_s":1442,"end_s":1443,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},213,"165352","Not because it lacked the resources to do so.",2211.84,2214.52,{"idx":1445,"utterance_id":1446,"speaker_name":176,"text":1447,"start_s":1448,"end_s":1449,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},214,"165353","The resources allocated to this area, as Professor Aldaíza has already pointed out, do not reach half a percent.",2214.94,2221.34,{"idx":1451,"utterance_id":1452,"speaker_name":176,"text":1453,"start_s":1454,"end_s":1455,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},215,"165354","It is so little that it is difficult to grasp the dimension of CIF.",2221.6,2224.88,{"idx":1457,"utterance_id":1458,"speaker_name":176,"text":1459,"start_s":1460,"end_s":1461,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},216,"165355","But it is not only in financing that the choice not to have a public protection system becomes evident.",2225.78,2233.36,{"idx":1463,"utterance_id":1464,"speaker_name":176,"text":1465,"start_s":1466,"end_s":1467,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},217,"165356","The State of São Paulo does not have state social assistance services.",2233.42,2240.16,{"idx":1469,"utterance_id":1470,"speaker_name":176,"text":1471,"start_s":1472,"end_s":1473,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},218,"165357","It did not assume co-responsibility in this area.",2240.98,2243.88,{"idx":1475,"utterance_id":1476,"speaker_name":176,"text":1477,"start_s":1478,"end_s":1479,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},219,"165358","It municipalized the services in the 1990s, in 1990, and since then, over the last 30 years, has kept its structure almost unchanged, regardless of the worsening of crises.",2244.28,2258.32,{"idx":1481,"utterance_id":1482,"speaker_name":176,"text":1483,"start_s":1484,"end_s":1485,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},220,"165359","The headquarters, the managing body of social assistance in the State, did not historically establish a technical condition to support municipalities.",2259.1,2268.16,{"idx":1487,"utterance_id":1488,"speaker_name":176,"text":1489,"start_s":1490,"end_s":1491,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},221,"165360","as defined by the Pacto Federativo.",2268.66,2270.76,{"idx":1493,"utterance_id":1494,"speaker_name":176,"text":1495,"start_s":1496,"end_s":1497,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},222,"165361","Both the metropolises, in their complexity, which go beyond their borders, and the more than 500 small municipalities that have differing structures and technical capacities among themselves, demand that support from the State.",2271.46,2285.52,{"idx":1499,"utterance_id":1500,"speaker_name":176,"text":1501,"start_s":1502,"end_s":1503,"word_count":375,"indexable":181},223,"165362","The State of São Paulo, home to the country's main scientific and technological institutions, has no technical production on inequality that points to protection units and the scope of their care.",2286.22,2301.66,{"idx":1505,"utterance_id":1506,"speaker_name":176,"text":1507,"start_s":1508,"end_s":1509,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},224,"165363","Public policy is not made by ignoring reality.",2302.38,2304.84,{"idx":1511,"utterance_id":1512,"speaker_name":176,"text":1513,"start_s":1514,"end_s":1515,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},225,"165364","The lack of commitment to protection becomes even more evident.",2305.32,2308.04,{"idx":1517,"utterance_id":1518,"speaker_name":176,"text":1519,"start_s":1520,"end_s":1521,"word_count":387,"indexable":181},226,"165365","In a look at the limits of SUAS in the State of São Paulo, this collective that I represent proposes a SUAS the size of São Paulo and with the institutional framework that a State policy should have.",2308.84,2323.08,{"idx":1523,"utterance_id":1524,"speaker_name":176,"text":1525,"start_s":1526,"end_s":1527,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},227,"165366","We do not propose piecemeal programs; Institutional strengthening of SUAS.",2323.8,2331.34,{"idx":1529,"utterance_id":1530,"speaker_name":176,"text":1531,"start_s":1532,"end_s":1533,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},228,"165367","We propose respect for the legislation.",2331.74,2334.2,{"idx":17,"utterance_id":1535,"speaker_name":176,"text":1536,"start_s":1537,"end_s":1538,"word_count":232,"indexable":181},"165368","Institutionalizing SUAS in the State of São Paulo means creating legal bases of support within the government structure, so that gradually, but swiftly, it becomes visible that SUAS is finally being implemented and with it the assumption of responsibility.",2334.94,2355.52,{"idx":1540,"utterance_id":1541,"speaker_name":176,"text":1542,"start_s":1543,"end_s":1544,"word_count":43,"indexable":181},230,"165369","Commitments and responsibilities that need to be visible and public so they can be monitored by social control, which, by the way, is another enormous fragility of both in São Paulo.",2356.18,2369.24,{"idx":1546,"utterance_id":1547,"speaker_name":176,"text":1548,"start_s":1549,"end_s":1550,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},231,"165370","The State Council is almost an extension of the State Secretariat and not a space for dialogue, contradiction and collegial decision-making.",2369.78,2379.32,{"idx":1552,"utterance_id":1553,"speaker_name":176,"text":1554,"start_s":1555,"end_s":1556,"word_count":438,"indexable":181},232,"165371","We also proposed... to change the budgetary performance of the State Social Assistance Fund, so as not only to increase resources but also, and above all, to make them available to strengthen care in municipal services, especially by adding more resources to the State's most unequal regions, impacted by adverse events.",2380.16,2405.94,{"idx":1558,"utterance_id":1559,"speaker_name":176,"text":1560,"start_s":1561,"end_s":1562,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},233,"165372","by the economic and social crisis resulting from the pandemic and by circuits of violence.",2406.26,2411.32,{"idx":1564,"utterance_id":1565,"speaker_name":176,"text":1566,"start_s":1567,"end_s":1568,"word_count":269,"indexable":181},234,"165373","Changing the performance is also to ensure sources of funding, to guarantee continuity and to overcome dependence on parliamentary amendments, which, in the end, due to the absence of a holistic reading, end up increasing inequality, because they are allocated to municipalities and organizations that have access.",2411.88,2434.68,{"idx":1570,"utterance_id":1571,"speaker_name":176,"text":1572,"start_s":1573,"end_s":1574,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},235,"165374","and the capacity to pressure deputies.",2435.12,2438.72,{"idx":1576,"utterance_id":1577,"speaker_name":176,"text":1578,"start_s":1579,"end_s":1580,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},236,"165375","Inequities are not fought by using public funds in a clientelist way.",2439.28,2444.22,{"idx":1582,"utterance_id":1583,"speaker_name":176,"text":1584,"start_s":1585,"end_s":1586,"word_count":322,"indexable":181},237,"165376","Establish a program to improve annual and multi-year goals, which take into account the sustainability of the system through the implementation of state services.",2445.08,2457.24,{"idx":1588,"utterance_id":1589,"speaker_name":176,"text":1590,"start_s":1591,"end_s":1592,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},238,"165377","strengthening municipal ones and defining co-responsibility with the federal government in financing benefits.",2457.88,2466.02,{"idx":1594,"utterance_id":1595,"speaker_name":176,"text":1596,"start_s":1597,"end_s":1598,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},239,"165378","And they must be regulated, establishing criteria that point to priority groups most impacted by the pandemic, so that progressively we achieve universality.",2466.46,2480.58,{"idx":1600,"utterance_id":1601,"speaker_name":176,"text":1602,"start_s":1603,"end_s":1604,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},240,"165379","Not allowing selectivity, means-testing and the humiliating exposure of people, which, by the way, is condemnable conduct and has already been established since 1993 in the Organic Law of Social Assistance.",2481.36,2498.46,{"idx":1606,"utterance_id":1607,"speaker_name":176,"text":1608,"start_s":1609,"end_s":1610,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},241,"165380","Adopt a continuous policy... I'll take the opportunity to drink some water.",2499.6,2505.78,{"idx":1612,"utterance_id":1613,"speaker_name":176,"text":1614,"start_s":1615,"end_s":1616,"word_count":282,"indexable":181},242,"165381","adopt a continuous policy of upward-building and effective permanent education of workers and people.",2511.32,2521.84,{"idx":1618,"utterance_id":1619,"speaker_name":176,"text":1620,"start_s":1621,"end_s":1622,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},243,"165382","An inequality as complex and as perverse as the one we live with needs to be faced by specialized teams, whether composed of male or female public servants or by workers from social organizations.",2522.5,2538.68,{"idx":23,"utterance_id":1624,"speaker_name":176,"text":1625,"start_s":1626,"end_s":1627,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},"165383","It is necessary to develop innovative social technologies to serve large collectives and to reverse the trivialization of intolerance toward diversity.",2539.58,2551.94,{"idx":1629,"utterance_id":1630,"speaker_name":176,"text":1631,"start_s":1632,"end_s":1633,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},245,"165384","Technical support to municipalities is the legal responsibility of the state government.",2552.5,2557.66,{"idx":1635,"utterance_id":1636,"speaker_name":176,"text":1637,"start_s":1638,"end_s":1639,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},246,"165385","Without installed technical capacity, what is seen is an inversion.",2558.36,2562.54,{"idx":1641,"utterance_id":1642,"speaker_name":176,"text":1643,"start_s":1644,"end_s":1645,"word_count":232,"indexable":181},247,"165386","It is state Secretariat workers, male and female, making use of municipal training initiatives, in a personal and solitary attempt to broaden their knowledge about the system to contribute to other localities that do not have the capacity to fund the training process.",2563.06,2582.8,{"idx":1647,"utterance_id":1648,"speaker_name":176,"text":1649,"start_s":1650,"end_s":1651,"word_count":349,"indexable":181},248,"165387","We also propose that territories of social protection be established, in order to develop decentralized, articulated planning and to circulate knowledge and social technologies between different fields of public policy.",2583.62,2601.62,{"idx":1653,"utterance_id":1654,"speaker_name":176,"text":1655,"start_s":1656,"end_s":1657,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},249,"165388","Fragmentation wastes resources and turns citizens into itinerants within sectors, without certainty of care, especially when it comes to more complex experiences.",2602,2614.68,{"idx":1659,"utterance_id":1660,"speaker_name":176,"text":1661,"start_s":1662,"end_s":1663,"word_count":375,"indexable":181},250,"165389","Finally, we want to say... that our position is to contribute so that the state government's legal responsibilities to guarantee protection for those who live with human rights violations are ensured.",2615.3,2631.4,{"idx":1665,"utterance_id":1666,"speaker_name":176,"text":1667,"start_s":1668,"end_s":1669,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},251,"165390","Our understanding is that it is only possible to respect people when we respect their rights.",2632.02,2639.78,{"idx":1671,"utterance_id":1672,"speaker_name":176,"text":1673,"start_s":1674,"end_s":1675,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},252,"165391","Having the right to social assistance is a constitutional guarantee.",2640.32,2646.66,{"idx":1677,"utterance_id":1678,"speaker_name":176,"text":1679,"start_s":1680,"end_s":1681,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},253,"165392","which we want to see secured in the next State government.",2647,2651.24,{"idx":1683,"utterance_id":1684,"speaker_name":176,"text":1685,"start_s":1686,"end_s":1687,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},254,"165393","Thank you very much for your contribution.",2651.28,2666.08,{"idx":1689,"utterance_id":1690,"speaker_name":176,"text":1691,"start_s":1692,"end_s":1693,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},255,"165394","I would like to note also the presence of Edson Aparecido da Silva, executive secretary of the National Observatory of the Rights to Water, of sanitation to waves.",2668.7,2678.1,{"idx":1695,"utterance_id":1696,"speaker_name":176,"text":1697,"start_s":1698,"end_s":1699,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},256,"165395","I also note the presence of Ana Martins, former state deputy of the PCP.",2680.18,2684.3,{"idx":1701,"utterance_id":1702,"speaker_name":176,"text":1703,"start_s":1704,"end_s":1705,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},257,"165396","And Elian Calegaro, who is a pre-candidate for federal deputy for the PSD.",2693.26,2697.44,{"idx":1707,"utterance_id":1708,"speaker_name":176,"text":1275,"start_s":1709,"end_s":1710,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},258,"165397",2698.66,2699.44,{"idx":1712,"utterance_id":1713,"speaker_name":176,"text":1714,"start_s":1715,"end_s":1716,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},259,"165398","And now we will give the floor, then, for three minutes, to our comrade Mariana, from Rede Sustentabilidade.",2699.96,2708.26,{"idx":1718,"utterance_id":1719,"speaker_name":176,"text":1720,"start_s":1721,"end_s":1722,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},260,"165399","Hello, good evening everyone.",2712.4,2713.76,{"idx":1724,"utterance_id":1725,"speaker_name":176,"text":1726,"start_s":1727,"end_s":1728,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},261,"165400","It is an honor to be here at this table.",2714.1,2715.96,{"idx":1730,"utterance_id":1731,"speaker_name":176,"text":1732,"start_s":1733,"end_s":1734,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},262,"165401","I greet all my table colleagues, everyone present.",2716.26,2720.92,{"idx":1736,"utterance_id":1737,"speaker_name":176,"text":1738,"start_s":1739,"end_s":1740,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},263,"165402","And I extend my regards through Professor Daís Esposati.",2721.66,2725.54,{"idx":1742,"utterance_id":1743,"speaker_name":176,"text":1744,"start_s":1745,"end_s":1746,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},264,"165403","It is an honor to be here, sharing the space also with you.",2725.62,2728.32,{"idx":1748,"utterance_id":1749,"speaker_name":176,"text":1750,"start_s":1751,"end_s":1752,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},265,"165404","I would like to specifically greet my running-mates for state deputy whom I see here, from Rede Sustentabilidade: Edilson, Tuca.",2729.44,2738.84,{"idx":1754,"utterance_id":1755,"speaker_name":176,"text":1756,"start_s":1757,"end_s":1758,"word_count":521,"indexable":181},266,"165405","And I wanted to tell you that, well, Caio, I think after the class we gave, in terms of yours, I'm not even going to risk getting into that topic and will stay here on Rede's main subject, which is the issue of food and climate change and how we have to look at these issues more broadly.",2740.76,2765.54,{"idx":1760,"utterance_id":1761,"speaker_name":176,"text":1762,"start_s":1763,"end_s":1764,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},267,"165406","One in three Brazilians today, this Datafolha finding released today, has insufficient food on the table.",2766.04,2772.64,{"idx":1766,"utterance_id":1767,"speaker_name":176,"text":1768,"start_s":1769,"end_s":1770,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},268,"165407","This represents a picture of severe food insecurity, but it is not the only problem.",2775.5,2782,{"idx":1772,"utterance_id":1773,"speaker_name":176,"text":1774,"start_s":1775,"end_s":1776,"word_count":232,"indexable":181},269,"165408","We also have a very large increase in poor populations showing chronic diseases 10 years earlier than the rich population because of moderate food insecurity, which is when we do not have access to the correct food.",2782.4,2801.7,{"idx":1778,"utterance_id":1779,"speaker_name":176,"text":1780,"start_s":1781,"end_s":1782,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},270,"165409","ultra-processed foods, with excessive preservatives.",2801.72,2806.68,{"idx":1784,"utterance_id":1785,"speaker_name":176,"text":1786,"start_s":1787,"end_s":1788,"word_count":438,"indexable":181},271,"165410","This is the result of a chaotic global scenario, of war, of pandemic, of climate emergency, but above all, it is a scenario of destruction, the result of the destruction of public policies, especially regarding family farming, carried out by this government of death, which is the Bolsonaro government.",2807.1,2827,{"idx":1790,"utterance_id":1791,"speaker_name":176,"text":1792,"start_s":1793,"end_s":1794,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},272,"165411","This makes us even more exposed.",2827.38,2829.26,{"idx":1796,"utterance_id":1797,"speaker_name":176,"text":1798,"start_s":1799,"end_s":1800,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},273,"165412","to these issues of global crisis.",2829.6,2831.8,{"idx":1802,"utterance_id":1803,"speaker_name":176,"text":1804,"start_s":1805,"end_s":1806,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},274,"165413","The federal government destroyed INCRA's resources and thus destroyed sustainable management programs and producers' self-sufficiency programs, destabilizing settlements and reducing rural infrastructure.",2833.1,2848.7,{"idx":1808,"utterance_id":1809,"speaker_name":176,"text":1810,"start_s":1811,"end_s":1812,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},275,"165414","The State government of São Paulo was not far behind; it also went the same way of turning everything into a sterile policy of titling.",2849.42,2858.34,{"idx":1814,"utterance_id":1815,"speaker_name":176,"text":1816,"start_s":1817,"end_s":1818,"word_count":349,"indexable":181},276,"165415","And dismantling programs that Fernando spoke about so extensively, I even feel embarrassed about the food bank programs and PRONAF, the rural education programs.",2859.04,2874.12,{"idx":1820,"utterance_id":1821,"speaker_name":176,"text":1822,"start_s":1823,"end_s":1824,"word_count":282,"indexable":181},277,"165416","Bolsonaro's fall, we are confident this will be resolved next year.",2876.98,2885.08,{"idx":1826,"utterance_id":1827,"speaker_name":176,"text":1828,"start_s":1829,"end_s":1830,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},278,"165417","There will be a lot left to do in the state here.",2885.64,2888.14,{"idx":1832,"utterance_id":1833,"speaker_name":176,"text":1834,"start_s":1835,"end_s":1836,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},279,"165418","It's going down, exactly.",2889.06,2891.92,{"idx":1838,"utterance_id":1839,"speaker_name":176,"text":1840,"start_s":1841,"end_s":1842,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},280,"165419","Then it's just a party.",2892.58,2893.72,{"idx":1844,"utterance_id":1845,"speaker_name":176,"text":1846,"start_s":1847,"end_s":1848,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},281,"165420","And Professor Fernando is left with the task of addressing this issue using the umbrella of climate change.",2898.92,2905.92,{"idx":1850,"utterance_id":1851,"speaker_name":176,"text":1852,"start_s":1853,"end_s":1854,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},282,"165421","Because the issue of food is greatly impacted.",2906,2911.76,{"idx":1856,"utterance_id":1857,"speaker_name":176,"text":1858,"start_s":1859,"end_s":1860,"word_count":338,"indexable":181},283,"165422","By the rise of global warming which will affect rice, corn and food crops, the frequent droughts will impact water insecurity and its consequences.",2912.2,2930.48,{"idx":1862,"utterance_id":1863,"speaker_name":176,"text":1864,"start_s":1865,"end_s":1866,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},284,"165423","So we need public policies, on climate change, to ensure.",2930.5,2939.32,{"idx":1868,"utterance_id":1869,"speaker_name":176,"text":1870,"start_s":1871,"end_s":1872,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},285,"165424","that we have a focus on sustainable management, on sustainable agriculture, on agroforestry, on agroecology policies.",2939.64,2949.8,{"idx":1874,"utterance_id":1875,"speaker_name":176,"text":1876,"start_s":1877,"end_s":1878,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},286,"165425","And we also need, more than gross production, the matter of manufactured and artisanal products.",2950.24,2957.62,{"idx":1880,"utterance_id":1881,"speaker_name":176,"text":1882,"start_s":1883,"end_s":1884,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},287,"165426","This is income for rural families, this is income for women.",2958.08,2962.5,{"idx":1886,"utterance_id":1887,"speaker_name":176,"text":1888,"start_s":1889,"end_s":1890,"word_count":282,"indexable":181},288,"165427","It is no coincidence that this table has more women, because this agenda is a feminine agenda.",2962.58,2967.4,{"idx":1892,"utterance_id":1893,"speaker_name":176,"text":1894,"start_s":1895,"end_s":1896,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},289,"165428","And we need a municipal and state inspection system focused on small and medium producers.",2967.86,2974.84,{"idx":1898,"utterance_id":1899,"speaker_name":176,"text":1900,"start_s":1901,"end_s":1902,"word_count":322,"indexable":181},290,"165429","And the regional diversity Marcelo spoke about is also diversification and increased income with other industries, such as tourism and gastronomy.",2975.32,2987.7,{"idx":1904,"utterance_id":1905,"speaker_name":176,"text":1906,"start_s":1907,"end_s":1908,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},291,"165430","So, I wanted to draw attention to these agendas.",2988.26,2990.76,{"idx":29,"utterance_id":1910,"speaker_name":176,"text":1911,"start_s":1912,"end_s":1913,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},"165431","And we count on you a lot; I think you know how to do it, you have already done it in São Paulo and I'm sure you will do it for the State of São Paulo.",2991.2,2999.82,{"idx":1915,"utterance_id":1916,"speaker_name":176,"text":1917,"start_s":1918,"end_s":1919,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},293,"165432","I would also like the presence of Tuca Munhoz, pre-candidate for state deputy for Rede.",3006.18,3014.06,{"idx":1921,"utterance_id":1922,"speaker_name":176,"text":1923,"start_s":1924,"end_s":1925,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},294,"165433","Tuca.",3016.42,3016.72,{"idx":1927,"utterance_id":1928,"speaker_name":176,"text":1929,"start_s":1930,"end_s":1931,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},295,"165434","From Edivaldo Gonçalves, from the National Movement of Struggle in Defense of the Population in Situation of Boa.",3017.9,3022.84,{"idx":1933,"utterance_id":1934,"speaker_name":176,"text":1935,"start_s":1936,"end_s":1937,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},296,"165435","From Gelo, is it Gelo?",3023.88,3027.98,{"idx":1939,"utterance_id":1940,"speaker_name":176,"text":1941,"start_s":1942,"end_s":1943,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},297,"165436","Gelo Antônio, Secretary of Food Security.",3028.04,3031.02,{"idx":1945,"utterance_id":1946,"speaker_name":176,"text":1947,"start_s":1948,"end_s":1949,"word_count":171,"indexable":181},298,"165437","From Diadema, from Marcia Barral, Social Assistance Secretary of Diadema, from Frederico Arzola, from the Association of Scientific Researchers of the State of São Paulo, from Sofia, from Conexão Periferias of Fundação Pessoa Abramo, and from Juliana Borges.",3031.8,3048.8,{"idx":1951,"utterance_id":1952,"speaker_name":176,"text":1953,"start_s":1954,"end_s":1955,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},299,"165438","The floor now to Lucas Ciola, of the Green Party, for three minutes.",3050.62,3056.14,{"idx":1957,"utterance_id":1958,"speaker_name":176,"text":1959,"start_s":1960,"end_s":1961,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},300,"165439","Good evening, panel, good evening Radar, it's a great pleasure to be with you once again.",3062.62,3067.14,{"idx":1963,"utterance_id":1964,"speaker_name":176,"text":1965,"start_s":1966,"end_s":1967,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},301,"165440","We met at the farmers' meeting as well.",3067.94,3070.78,{"idx":1969,"utterance_id":1970,"speaker_name":176,"text":1971,"start_s":1972,"end_s":1973,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},302,"165441","I have the honor of speaking here on behalf of the Green Party, representing my co-candidate Cláudia Vizzoni, of the collective mandate Alimenta SP.",3071.84,3082.44,{"idx":34,"utterance_id":1975,"speaker_name":176,"text":1976,"start_s":1977,"end_s":1978,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},"165442","A great honor for me to be a protagonist of the new federation being formed between the Green Party and the PT.",3083.6,3091.54,{"idx":1980,"utterance_id":1981,"speaker_name":176,"text":1982,"start_s":1983,"end_s":1984,"word_count":450,"indexable":181},304,"165443","A historic moment where environmentalists can... reclaim their place alongside the working class, reclaim the PV that we left behind, the PV of Gilberto Gil, the PV of comrade Gabeira, the PV of Cirques, of the grassroots environmentalists who came here after the amnesty.",3092.42,3115.64,{"idx":1986,"utterance_id":1987,"speaker_name":176,"text":1988,"start_s":1989,"end_s":1990,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},305,"165444","And I would like to recall some points of convergence.",3116.58,3122.5,{"idx":1992,"utterance_id":1993,"speaker_name":176,"text":1994,"start_s":1995,"end_s":1996,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},306,"165445","between the Green Party and the PT.",3123.18,3126.86,{"idx":1998,"utterance_id":1999,"speaker_name":176,"text":2000,"start_s":2001,"end_s":2002,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},307,"165446","And, at the end, I will explain why our collective candidacy is called Alimenta SP.",3127.1,3132.04,{"idx":2004,"utterance_id":2005,"speaker_name":176,"text":2006,"start_s":2007,"end_s":2008,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},308,"165447","So, the first thing, local power.",3132.12,3135.86,{"idx":2010,"utterance_id":2011,"speaker_name":176,"text":2012,"start_s":2013,"end_s":2014,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},309,"165448","The Green Party has always prioritized local power and municipalism.",3136.08,3139.82,{"idx":2016,"utterance_id":2017,"speaker_name":176,"text":2018,"start_s":2019,"end_s":2020,"word_count":43,"indexable":181},310,"165449","And it's a great pleasure to be able to resume this agenda alongside the PT, which built the participatory budget, which built... the councils, which implemented the councils.",3140.56,3153.82,{"idx":2022,"utterance_id":2023,"speaker_name":176,"text":2024,"start_s":2025,"end_s":2026,"word_count":322,"indexable":181},311,"165450","and that we reclaim these councils with strength, that we can do regional management of both the budget and the environment.",3153.84,3162.04,{"idx":2028,"utterance_id":2029,"speaker_name":176,"text":2030,"start_s":2031,"end_s":2032,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},312,"165451","This is also a fight against hunger.",3162.72,3164.38,{"idx":2034,"utterance_id":2035,"speaker_name":176,"text":2036,"start_s":2037,"end_s":2038,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},313,"165452","Bring back the agrarian reform agenda.",3165.44,3167.7,{"idx":2040,"utterance_id":2041,"speaker_name":176,"text":2042,"start_s":2043,"end_s":2044,"word_count":282,"indexable":181},314,"165453","Agrarian reform, which is something that has already been carried out in England, in France, in the United States.",3167.92,3172.76,{"idx":2046,"utterance_id":2047,"speaker_name":176,"text":2048,"start_s":2049,"end_s":2050,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},315,"165454","So it's time for us to start talking about agrarian reform again.",3172.98,3176.86,{"idx":2052,"utterance_id":2053,"speaker_name":176,"text":2054,"start_s":2055,"end_s":2056,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},316,"165455","without it being an exclusive concern of the left.",3178.08,3180.44,{"idx":2058,"utterance_id":2059,"speaker_name":176,"text":2060,"start_s":2061,"end_s":2062,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},317,"165456","This is in everyone's interest.",3180.56,3182.22,{"idx":2064,"utterance_id":2065,"speaker_name":176,"text":2066,"start_s":2067,"end_s":2068,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},318,"165457","It's important to remind voters of that.",3182.48,3184.72,{"idx":2070,"utterance_id":2071,"speaker_name":176,"text":2072,"start_s":2073,"end_s":2074,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},319,"165458","Deepen agrarian reform through agroecology.",3185.64,3189.14,{"idx":2076,"utterance_id":2077,"speaker_name":176,"text":2078,"start_s":2079,"end_s":2080,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},320,"165459","So we are truly building an ecological socialist proposal, indeed, through agrarian reform.",3189.54,3196.68,{"idx":2082,"utterance_id":2083,"speaker_name":176,"text":2084,"start_s":2085,"end_s":2086,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},321,"165460","The MST has been incorporating agroecology since 2006 in its guidelines.",3196.7,3200.72,{"idx":2088,"utterance_id":2089,"speaker_name":176,"text":2090,"start_s":2091,"end_s":2092,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},322,"165461","We have yet another front to work on together.",3200.8,3203.62,{"idx":2094,"utterance_id":2095,"speaker_name":176,"text":2096,"start_s":2097,"end_s":2098,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},323,"165462","School feeding that advanced a lot when you were mayor, Haddad.",3205,3209.98,{"idx":2100,"utterance_id":2101,"speaker_name":176,"text":2102,"start_s":2103,"end_s":2104,"word_count":269,"indexable":181},324,"165463","We will be by your side supporting the resumption of direct purchases from family farming, the calls for settlements, the PAA, organic school meals, buying food from nearby farmers to reduce logistics costs, structuring small farmers, and resuming CATE and ITESP.",3210.08,3233.6,{"idx":2106,"utterance_id":2107,"speaker_name":176,"text":2108,"start_s":2109,"end_s":2110,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},325,"165464","with them fully performing technical assistance functions.",3233.9,3236.34,{"idx":2112,"utterance_id":2113,"speaker_name":176,"text":2114,"start_s":2115,"end_s":2116,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},326,"165465","We are at a very delicate moment; principals and teachers are risking themselves, taking food stock that is close to expiring and distributing it to families around the schools.",3238.44,3249.4,{"idx":2118,"utterance_id":2119,"speaker_name":176,"text":2120,"start_s":2121,"end_s":2122,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},327,"165466","We have 472 million reais tied up in municipal accounts for school meals that they cannot spend.",3249.88,3259.52,{"idx":2124,"utterance_id":2125,"speaker_name":176,"text":2126,"start_s":2127,"end_s":2128,"word_count":399,"indexable":181},328,"165467","Well, to conclude, in the PV we don't much like stereotypes, but today I came as a watermelon, because, including, we were 'boneirindo' there at the field warehouse — our head is green, but our heart is red.",3261.98,3282.04,{"idx":2130,"utterance_id":2131,"speaker_name":176,"text":2132,"start_s":2133,"end_s":2134,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},329,"165468","I want watermelon, or I mean, watermelon is watermelon.",3282.22,3301.02,{"idx":2136,"utterance_id":2137,"speaker_name":176,"text":2138,"start_s":2139,"end_s":2140,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},330,"165469","Lucas, pleasure to be with you here.",3301.04,3303.78,{"idx":2142,"utterance_id":2143,"speaker_name":176,"text":2144,"start_s":2145,"end_s":2146,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},331,"165470","Now we are going to hear Alexandre... The teacher of Mr.",3305.56,3308.84,{"idx":2148,"utterance_id":2149,"speaker_name":176,"text":2150,"start_s":2151,"end_s":2152,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},332,"165471","Alexandre, of the PCdoB, is present.",3308.86,3311.04,{"idx":2154,"utterance_id":2155,"speaker_name":176,"text":2156,"start_s":2157,"end_s":2158,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},333,"165472","So, I give the floor to our dear former Minister of Social Development, Tereza Campelo.",3314.74,3321.44,{"idx":2160,"utterance_id":2161,"speaker_name":176,"text":2162,"start_s":2163,"end_s":2164,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},334,"165473","Good evening.",3321.46,3321.68,{"idx":2166,"utterance_id":2167,"speaker_name":176,"text":2168,"start_s":2169,"end_s":2170,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},335,"165474","Good evening to everyone — todas, todos, todes.",3328.08,3330.9,{"idx":2172,"utterance_id":2173,"speaker_name":176,"text":2174,"start_s":2175,"end_s":2176,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},336,"165475","A huge joy to be here, to have this opportunity to be here.",3331.02,3335.64,{"idx":2178,"utterance_id":2179,"speaker_name":176,"text":2180,"start_s":2181,"end_s":2182,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},337,"165476","I'm so excited, actually.",3335.88,3337.74,{"idx":2184,"utterance_id":2185,"speaker_name":176,"text":2186,"start_s":2187,"end_s":2188,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},338,"165477","It's beautiful to see, it's beautiful to see.",3339,3340.82,{"idx":2190,"utterance_id":2191,"speaker_name":176,"text":2192,"start_s":2193,"end_s":2194,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},339,"165478","I want to greet and thank you for the invitation; it's a great honor.",3341.28,3344.76,{"idx":2196,"utterance_id":2197,"speaker_name":176,"text":2198,"start_s":2199,"end_s":2200,"word_count":444,"indexable":181},340,"165479","I greet our future governor Fernando Haddad, dear, we're together, Elidio, I greet everyone on the panel on behalf of our professor Aldaísa and our representatives of the front who are in this campaign with us and will be in our future government here in the State of São Paulo as well.",3345.26,3366.86,{"idx":2202,"utterance_id":2203,"speaker_name":176,"text":2204,"start_s":2205,"end_s":2206,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},341,"165480","I wanted — I think the debate here was so rich — I wanted to start by pointing out an aspect of this election that I think is different.",3368.36,3376.96,{"idx":2208,"utterance_id":2209,"speaker_name":176,"text":2210,"start_s":2211,"end_s":2212,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},342,"165481","Today everyone talks about hunger.",3377.76,3379.02,{"idx":2214,"utterance_id":2215,"speaker_name":176,"text":2216,"start_s":2217,"end_s":2218,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},343,"165482","So, hunger, which is a traditional debate of ours — remember 2003, President Lula leading the discussion on hunger.",3379.04,3388.1,{"idx":2220,"utterance_id":2221,"speaker_name":176,"text":2222,"start_s":2223,"end_s":2224,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},344,"165483","Today, many candidacies talk about hunger, not just ours.",3389.22,3393.64,{"idx":2226,"utterance_id":2227,"speaker_name":176,"text":2228,"start_s":2229,"end_s":2230,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},345,"165484","Here in São Paulo as well, many talk about hunger.",3393.96,3396.16,{"idx":2232,"utterance_id":2233,"speaker_name":176,"text":2234,"start_s":2235,"end_s":2236,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},346,"165485","But everyone treats hunger as a result of the pandemic.",3397.08,3401.26,{"idx":2238,"utterance_id":2239,"speaker_name":176,"text":2240,"start_s":2241,"end_s":2242,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},347,"165486","So, hunger — it's there; we need to confront why we have hunger beyond the pandemic.",3401.4,3407.48,{"idx":2244,"utterance_id":2245,"speaker_name":176,"text":2246,"start_s":2247,"end_s":2248,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},348,"165487","And that's not true.",3407.58,3408.42,{"idx":2250,"utterance_id":2251,"speaker_name":176,"text":2252,"start_s":2253,"end_s":2254,"word_count":381,"indexable":181},349,"165488","Hunger had already returned to Brazil, had already returned to the State of São Paulo, it was already becoming nationalized, which is a different phenomenon from the hunger we had in the 1970s and '80s.",3409.1,3420.8,{"idx":2256,"utterance_id":2257,"speaker_name":176,"text":2258,"start_s":2259,"end_s":2260,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},350,"165489","Hunger became a national phenomenon.",3421.32,3424.32,{"idx":2262,"utterance_id":2263,"speaker_name":176,"text":2264,"start_s":2265,"end_s":2266,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},351,"165490","The budget research... from 2017, 2018, already showed this: the growth of hunger across Brazil, of food insecurity across Brazil.",3425.64,3435.9,{"idx":2268,"utterance_id":2269,"speaker_name":176,"text":2270,"start_s":2271,"end_s":2272,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},352,"165491","Why did this happen?",3436.26,3437.42,{"idx":2274,"utterance_id":2275,"speaker_name":176,"text":2276,"start_s":2277,"end_s":2278,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},353,"165492","Not only because of an exclusionary economic model, but mainly because of the dismantling of public policies that occurred in Brazil.",3437.82,3445.96,{"idx":2280,"utterance_id":2281,"speaker_name":176,"text":2282,"start_s":2283,"end_s":2284,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},354,"165493","And two policies, in particular, were hit much more than the rest.",3446.42,3452.88,{"idx":2286,"utterance_id":2287,"speaker_name":176,"text":2288,"start_s":2289,"end_s":2290,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},355,"165494","It's hard to say which was hit more, health or education.",3452.9,3456.02,{"idx":2292,"utterance_id":2293,"speaker_name":176,"text":2294,"start_s":2295,"end_s":2296,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},356,"165495","Social assistance and CISAM, food and nutritional security — since SUAS and CISAM are more recent and necessarily cross-cutting policies, they were structurally undermined.",3456.18,3475.48,{"idx":2298,"utterance_id":2299,"speaker_name":176,"text":2300,"start_s":2301,"end_s":2302,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},357,"165496","So it is essential that we understand that the process of this debate we are having today is fundamental.",3475.92,3482.12,{"idx":2304,"utterance_id":2305,"speaker_name":176,"text":2306,"start_s":2307,"end_s":2308,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},358,"165497","in confronting not only hunger, but poverty and inequality, and that it will not be trivial to rebuild.",3482.76,3490.48,{"idx":2310,"utterance_id":2311,"speaker_name":176,"text":2312,"start_s":2313,"end_s":2314,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},359,"165498","Sometimes we're discussing the government program and we say, so what will be new?",3490.5,3494.3,{"idx":2316,"utterance_id":2317,"speaker_name":176,"text":2318,"start_s":2319,"end_s":2320,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},360,"165499","So what will be the new thing?",3494.74,3496.1,{"idx":2322,"utterance_id":2323,"speaker_name":176,"text":2324,"start_s":2325,"end_s":2326,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},361,"165500","We have to rebuild the major national systems, we have to rebuild public policies, and what you discussed here is true.",3496.58,3505.26,{"idx":2328,"utterance_id":2329,"speaker_name":176,"text":2330,"start_s":2331,"end_s":2332,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},362,"165501","Public policy is a right.",3505.32,3506.94,{"idx":2334,"utterance_id":2335,"speaker_name":176,"text":2336,"start_s":2337,"end_s":2338,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},363,"165502","Second, it has to be continuous; it's not like 'oh, do a basic food basket'... no, continuous policy.",3507.5,3514.02,{"idx":2340,"utterance_id":2341,"speaker_name":176,"text":2342,"start_s":2343,"end_s":2344,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},364,"165503","And third, integrated policies, especially SUAS and CISAM.",3514.34,3519.14,{"idx":2346,"utterance_id":2347,"speaker_name":176,"text":2348,"start_s":2349,"end_s":2350,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},365,"165504","And then I wanted to give a personal testimony, that I only have five little minutes, I've already used almost all of them here.",3519.58,3524.34,{"idx":2352,"utterance_id":2353,"speaker_name":176,"text":2354,"start_s":2355,"end_s":2356,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},366,"165505","I wanted to give a personal testimony, because I think it will make a big difference to have Fernando Haddad as governor.",3524.92,3531.1,{"idx":2358,"utterance_id":2359,"speaker_name":176,"text":2360,"start_s":2361,"end_s":2362,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},367,"165506","I had an opportunity and joy... and later to be minister with the formality of mayor.",3531.8,3544.54,{"idx":2364,"utterance_id":2365,"speaker_name":176,"text":2366,"start_s":2367,"end_s":2368,"word_count":15,"indexable":181},368,"165507","And I wanted to give my testimony, because everyone talks about integration of policies, it's such a beautiful word, it seems almost profane, 'let's bring everyone together, let's integrate public policy.'",3544.86,3553.58,{"idx":2370,"utterance_id":2371,"speaker_name":176,"text":2372,"start_s":2373,"end_s":2374,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},369,"165508","When you sit at the table, it doesn't happen.",3553.64,3556.16,{"idx":2376,"utterance_id":2377,"speaker_name":176,"text":2378,"start_s":2379,"end_s":2380,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},370,"165509","It's difficult, it's complex and requires leadership and political decision.",3556.6,3562.3,{"idx":2382,"utterance_id":2383,"speaker_name":176,"text":2384,"start_s":2385,"end_s":2386,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},371,"165510","There were three policies that we built together and if we hadn't had Fernando Haddad leading this process, it wouldn't have happened.",3562.86,3571.68,{"idx":2388,"utterance_id":2389,"speaker_name":176,"text":2390,"start_s":2391,"end_s":2392,"word_count":322,"indexable":181},372,"165511","One of them, which is a beautiful policy that even inspired Brasil Sem Miséria and Busca Ativa, is the BPC in school.",3572.12,3577.74,{"idx":2394,"utterance_id":2395,"speaker_name":176,"text":2396,"start_s":2397,"end_s":2398,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},373,"165512","A fantastic policy whereby we reversed the whole process of exclusion of children who received continuous cash transfer benefits and who were out of school.",3578.32,3588.54,{"idx":2400,"utterance_id":2401,"speaker_name":176,"text":2402,"start_s":2403,"end_s":2404,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},374,"165513","And Fernando Haddad was leading the drafting of that decree, that policy, together with his team.",3589.02,3595.2,{"idx":2406,"utterance_id":2407,"speaker_name":176,"text":2408,"start_s":2409,"end_s":2410,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},375,"165514","Pronatec, right, Fernando?",3595.8,3597.7,{"idx":2412,"utterance_id":2413,"speaker_name":176,"text":2414,"start_s":2415,"end_s":2416,"word_count":461,"indexable":181},376,"165515","And the third, which I think is the nicest, which we experienced with you as mayor, was Brasil Carinhoso at the federal level, and São Paulo Carinhosa, which led an entire agenda of care for children, which led an entire agenda of integration.",3597.72,3613.2,{"idx":2418,"utterance_id":2419,"speaker_name":176,"text":2420,"start_s":2421,"end_s":2422,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},377,"165516","Therefore, I think it's fundamental that we recover these experiences.",3613.58,3617.72,{"idx":2424,"utterance_id":2425,"speaker_name":176,"text":2426,"start_s":2427,"end_s":2428,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},378,"165517","so that beyond, far beyond the conceptual debate, we show that it is indeed possible to build integrated public policies in Brazil.",3618.04,3628.7,{"idx":2430,"utterance_id":2431,"speaker_name":176,"text":2432,"start_s":2433,"end_s":2434,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},379,"165518","So, I'm super happy to be here, at Lala, Fernando Haddad here, let's build a different country.",3628.74,3643.94,{"idx":2436,"utterance_id":2437,"speaker_name":176,"text":2438,"start_s":2439,"end_s":2440,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},380,"165519","Fernando Haddad, thank you for your contribution.",3643.98,3645.82,{"idx":2442,"utterance_id":2443,"speaker_name":176,"text":2444,"start_s":2445,"end_s":2446,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},381,"165520","Also present here is Andressa; she is a nutritionist for the Bom Prato program.",3646.8,3655.18,{"idx":2448,"utterance_id":2449,"speaker_name":176,"text":2450,"start_s":2451,"end_s":2452,"word_count":392,"indexable":181},382,"165521","Vera Vilela, from the Fórum Paulista de Soberania, Segurança Alimentar e Nutricional Sustentável, Rita de Cássia, also from the nutritionists category, and I call to the panel our dear comrade Carina Vitral, from the PCdoB, pre-candidate for state deputy, representing the PCdoB.",3656.22,3677.76,{"idx":2454,"utterance_id":2455,"speaker_name":176,"text":2456,"start_s":2457,"end_s":2458,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},383,"165522","Oh Karina, I had asked that, since you're already there, take the opportunity to give a greeting.",3677.82,3692.08,{"idx":2460,"utterance_id":2461,"speaker_name":176,"text":2462,"start_s":2463,"end_s":2464,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},384,"165523","Ask to swap a little, just a bit.",3692.66,3694.28,{"idx":2466,"utterance_id":2467,"speaker_name":176,"text":2468,"start_s":2469,"end_s":2470,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},385,"165524","So go ahead, do it.",3696.58,3697.34,{"idx":2472,"utterance_id":2473,"speaker_name":176,"text":2474,"start_s":2475,"end_s":2476,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},386,"165525","Do you want to catch your breath?",3701.68,3702.62,{"idx":2478,"utterance_id":2479,"speaker_name":176,"text":2480,"start_s":2481,"end_s":2482,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},387,"165526","Then later, just.",3702.64,3703.42,{"idx":2484,"utterance_id":2485,"speaker_name":176,"text":2486,"start_s":2487,"end_s":2488,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},388,"165527","So Karina will breathe, then she'll speak.",3703.54,3705.68,{"idx":2490,"utterance_id":2491,"speaker_name":176,"text":2492,"start_s":2493,"end_s":2494,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},389,"165528","Does anyone have a chair there so I can bring down a chair?",3706.58,3708.52,{"idx":2496,"utterance_id":2497,"speaker_name":176,"text":2498,"start_s":2499,"end_s":2500,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},390,"165529","It's coming, it's coming.",3708.54,3709.2,{"idx":2502,"utterance_id":2503,"speaker_name":176,"text":2504,"start_s":2505,"end_s":2506,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},391,"165530","They've already gone to get it.",3710.06,3710.78,{"idx":2508,"utterance_id":2509,"speaker_name":176,"text":2510,"start_s":2511,"end_s":2512,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},392,"165531","If you're young, you can stand.",3711.36,3714.96,{"idx":2514,"utterance_id":2515,"speaker_name":176,"text":2516,"start_s":2517,"end_s":2518,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},393,"165532","Also to announce here the members of the Fórum Paulista Soberania, which I already mentioned.",3716,3720.88,{"idx":2520,"utterance_id":2521,"speaker_name":176,"text":2522,"start_s":2523,"end_s":2524,"word_count":473,"indexable":181},394,"165533","and to announce, they asked to hold a cycle of debates: August 13, National System of Food Security; August 27, situation of CISAM in the state of São Paulo, challenges of civil society; and September 10, political agenda of CISAM in the 22 elections, in dialogue with committed candidacies matemática.",3721.86,3748.34,{"idx":2526,"utterance_id":2527,"speaker_name":176,"text":2528,"start_s":2529,"end_s":2530,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},395,"165534","Now we're going to move on; we're going to start calling the people previously registered to make interventions here.",3749.94,3763.56,{"idx":2532,"utterance_id":2533,"speaker_name":176,"text":2534,"start_s":2535,"end_s":2536,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},396,"165535","I ask that you don't ignore Martim.",3763.9,3769.82,{"idx":2538,"utterance_id":2539,"speaker_name":176,"text":2540,"start_s":2541,"end_s":2542,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},397,"165536","Martim is the young man holding the little sign with the time.",3769.86,3777.18,{"idx":2544,"utterance_id":2545,"speaker_name":176,"text":2546,"start_s":2547,"end_s":2548,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},398,"165537","So you can't pretend you didn't see him.",3777.58,3779.44,{"idx":2550,"utterance_id":2551,"speaker_name":176,"text":2552,"start_s":2553,"end_s":2554,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},399,"165538","So, first, call comrade Delvec, from the MST.",3780.12,3785.18,{"idx":2556,"utterance_id":2557,"speaker_name":176,"text":2558,"start_s":2559,"end_s":2560,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},400,"165539","And get ready, Bacarim, stay nearby.",3794.24,3797.08,{"idx":2562,"utterance_id":2563,"speaker_name":176,"text":2564,"start_s":2565,"end_s":2566,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},401,"165540","Good evening, folks, comrades.",3809.54,3819.72,{"idx":2568,"utterance_id":2569,"speaker_name":176,"text":2162,"start_s":2570,"end_s":2571,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},402,"165541",3836.44,3837.08,{"idx":2573,"utterance_id":2574,"speaker_name":176,"text":2575,"start_s":2576,"end_s":2577,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},403,"165542","I want, on behalf of the peasant men and women, to greet the whole panel here, on behalf of our next governor, Fernando Haddad.",3837.62,3851.98,{"idx":2579,"utterance_id":2580,"speaker_name":176,"text":2581,"start_s":2582,"end_s":2583,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},404,"165543","It's a great pleasure to be here with you.",3852.04,3854.44,{"idx":2585,"utterance_id":2586,"speaker_name":176,"text":2587,"start_s":2588,"end_s":2589,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},405,"165544","and to thank Dr.",3854.6,3857.6,{"idx":2591,"utterance_id":2592,"speaker_name":176,"text":2593,"start_s":2594,"end_s":2595,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},406,"165545","Dimitri.",3857.66,3858.04,{"idx":2597,"utterance_id":2598,"speaker_name":176,"text":2599,"start_s":2600,"end_s":2601,"word_count":381,"indexable":181},407,"165546","But I want to be brief here, I think it's three minutes, to be very practical; I would also like to thank the words of the comrade here, Lucas, from the PV, because in fact I make his words our words.",3859.88,3876.58,{"idx":2603,"utterance_id":2604,"speaker_name":176,"text":2605,"start_s":2606,"end_s":2607,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},408,"165547","Because indeed the problem of hunger, as was stated by the comrade, the problem of hunger is a structural problem.",3878.58,3888.24,{"idx":2609,"utterance_id":2610,"speaker_name":176,"text":2611,"start_s":2612,"end_s":2613,"word_count":255,"indexable":181},409,"165548","The pandemic only made it worse, especially here in the State of São Paulo, that is, a state with territory rich in natural resources; however, this is at the service of international financial capital, serving interests that are not those of the people of São Paulo.",3889.26,3907,{"idx":2615,"utterance_id":2616,"speaker_name":176,"text":2617,"start_s":2618,"end_s":2619,"word_count":15,"indexable":181},410,"165549","So it's important that we understand... indeed, this land tenure structure and this production model of the State of São Paulo, which is one of the main causes of hunger, without any doubt.",3907.56,3918.7,{"idx":2621,"utterance_id":2622,"speaker_name":176,"text":2623,"start_s":2624,"end_s":2625,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},411,"165550","So, when we talk about... The banner over there is very beautiful, right?",3919.22,3923.9,{"idx":2627,"utterance_id":2628,"speaker_name":176,"text":2629,"start_s":2630,"end_s":2631,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},412,"165551","When we talk about food, democracy... We need to talk about some fundamental things.",3924.18,3929.84,{"idx":2633,"utterance_id":2634,"speaker_name":176,"text":2635,"start_s":2636,"end_s":2637,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},413,"165552","One of them is land.",3930.14,3931.38,{"idx":2639,"utterance_id":2640,"speaker_name":176,"text":2641,"start_s":2642,"end_s":2643,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},414,"165553","We need to talk about land, to talk about agrarian reform.",3931.68,3933.78,{"idx":2645,"utterance_id":2646,"speaker_name":176,"text":2647,"start_s":2648,"end_s":2649,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},415,"165554","If you don't want to call it agrarian reform, you can call it something else, but we need to change the land tenure structure of the State of São Paulo.",3933.84,3939.76,{"idx":2651,"utterance_id":2652,"speaker_name":176,"text":2653,"start_s":2654,"end_s":2655,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},416,"165555","The second issue... is to change the technological model.",3940.54,3945.12,{"idx":2657,"utterance_id":2658,"speaker_name":176,"text":2659,"start_s":2660,"end_s":2661,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},417,"165556","We need to truly invest in agroecology, in quality food, in organic production.",3945.26,3950.92,{"idx":2663,"utterance_id":2664,"speaker_name":176,"text":2665,"start_s":2666,"end_s":2667,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},418,"165557","So these are fundamental things so that we can actually think about feeding the population with healthy food.",3950.98,3960.32,{"idx":2669,"utterance_id":2670,"speaker_name":176,"text":2671,"start_s":2672,"end_s":2673,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},419,"165558","So, very briefly, that is the commitment.",3960.82,3964.76,{"idx":2675,"utterance_id":2676,"speaker_name":176,"text":2677,"start_s":2678,"end_s":2679,"word_count":43,"indexable":181},420,"165559","We have done good work, talking with people from family farming, from traditional communities, together even with the agrarian sector; we have already included these proposals in the government program.",3965.18,3978.06,{"idx":2681,"utterance_id":2682,"speaker_name":176,"text":2683,"start_s":2684,"end_s":2685,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},421,"165560","But regarding the importance of us taking it on, I, we here as a movement, wanted to publicly take it on and invite all of you to help with this.",3978.56,3988.7,{"idx":2687,"utterance_id":2688,"speaker_name":176,"text":2689,"start_s":2690,"end_s":2691,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},422,"165561","We really need to confront hunger in the State of São Paulo and in Brazil.",3988.9,3992.14,{"idx":2693,"utterance_id":2694,"speaker_name":176,"text":2695,"start_s":2696,"end_s":2697,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},423,"165562","We will fight hunger and our proposal is that we can... Let's think of an emergency program to produce food in the countryside.",3992.36,4003.38,{"idx":2699,"utterance_id":2700,"speaker_name":176,"text":2701,"start_s":2702,"end_s":2703,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},424,"165563","We take on the responsibility of producing the necessary organic food.",4003.4,4007.44,{"idx":2705,"utterance_id":2706,"speaker_name":176,"text":2707,"start_s":2708,"end_s":2709,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},425,"165564","And one logistics option could be, for example, the sacolão — the sacolão system — to combat hunger among the people of São Paulo.",4007.82,4014.52,{"idx":2711,"utterance_id":2712,"speaker_name":176,"text":2713,"start_s":2714,"end_s":2715,"word_count":322,"indexable":181},426,"165565","to bring family farming, agrarian reform settlements and traditional communities into the process of social and economic development that happens in the countryside.",4015.44,4022.76,{"idx":2717,"utterance_id":2718,"speaker_name":176,"text":2719,"start_s":2720,"end_s":2721,"word_count":349,"indexable":181},427,"165566","So that's what I wanted to say, to say that we are in this campaign, we're in São Paulo, Lula there and Dália here in São Paulo.",4022.94,4040.6,{"idx":2723,"utterance_id":2724,"speaker_name":176,"text":2725,"start_s":2726,"end_s":2727,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},428,"165567","Now Professor José Macarim from the Instituto Fome Zero and Professor Almesc — and Patricia Jair is already getting ready.",4040.96,4048.58,{"idx":2729,"utterance_id":2730,"speaker_name":176,"text":2731,"start_s":2732,"end_s":2733,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},429,"165568","Good evening to everyone present here.",4050.06,4052.56,{"idx":2735,"utterance_id":2736,"speaker_name":176,"text":2737,"start_s":2738,"end_s":2739,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},430,"165569","About the governor's matter, all the media indeed.",4053.74,4056.26,{"idx":2741,"utterance_id":2742,"speaker_name":176,"text":2743,"start_s":2744,"end_s":2745,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},431,"165570","Time is short and I'd like to try to speak a bit, to present a few ideas here.",4057.3,4062.24,{"idx":2747,"utterance_id":2748,"speaker_name":176,"text":2749,"start_s":2750,"end_s":2751,"word_count":282,"indexable":181},432,"165571","First, I think that the fight against hunger depends especially on access to food and income.",4063.1,4069.06,{"idx":2753,"utterance_id":2754,"speaker_name":176,"text":2755,"start_s":2756,"end_s":2757,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},433,"165572","That's basic.",4069.82,4071.24,{"idx":2759,"utterance_id":2760,"speaker_name":176,"text":2761,"start_s":2762,"end_s":2763,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},434,"165573","PT has already shown this in Brazil.",4071.26,4073.24,{"idx":2765,"utterance_id":2766,"speaker_name":176,"text":2767,"start_s":2768,"end_s":2769,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},435,"165574","But there are other things that affect income as well.",4074.36,4078.16,{"idx":2771,"utterance_id":2772,"speaker_name":176,"text":2773,"start_s":2774,"end_s":2775,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},436,"165575","We are a country that exports a lot of food.",4078.96,4082.44,{"idx":2777,"utterance_id":2778,"speaker_name":176,"text":2779,"start_s":2780,"end_s":2781,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},437,"165576","We claim we're not afraid of the world, but we don't feed the Brazilian population.",4084.2,4088.6,{"idx":2783,"utterance_id":2784,"speaker_name":176,"text":2785,"start_s":2786,"end_s":2787,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},438,"165577","The Brazilian population doesn't belong to the world, it's extraterrestrial, it makes no sense.",4088.64,4095.28,{"idx":2789,"utterance_id":2790,"speaker_name":176,"text":2791,"start_s":2792,"end_s":2793,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},439,"165578","And we are going through a period of rising food prices.",4095.8,4100.26,{"idx":2795,"utterance_id":2796,"speaker_name":176,"text":2797,"start_s":2798,"end_s":2799,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},440,"165579","Since 2007, to be honest.",4100.34,4102.8,{"idx":2801,"utterance_id":2802,"speaker_name":176,"text":2803,"start_s":2804,"end_s":2805,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},441,"165580","Increase above others during disinflation.",4103.34,4105.74,{"idx":2807,"utterance_id":2808,"speaker_name":176,"text":2809,"start_s":2810,"end_s":2811,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},442,"165581","The IPCA has been like this for 14 years and it worsened during the pandemic.",4109.16,4114.14,{"idx":2813,"utterance_id":2814,"speaker_name":176,"text":2815,"start_s":2816,"end_s":2817,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},443,"165582","And it's incredible, because at a time when we have so much hunger, how are there people making so much money from food in the world?",4115.06,4122.08,{"idx":2819,"utterance_id":2820,"speaker_name":176,"text":2821,"start_s":2822,"end_s":2823,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},444,"165583","It makes no sense.",4122.78,4124.98,{"idx":2825,"utterance_id":2826,"speaker_name":176,"text":2827,"start_s":2828,"end_s":2829,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},445,"165584","And we note that one of the problems is that the availability of basic products in Brazil, of Brazilian food, has decreased over time.",4125.7,4136.84,{"idx":2831,"utterance_id":2832,"speaker_name":176,"text":2833,"start_s":2834,"end_s":2835,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},446,"165585","Rice, beans, cassava — especially those three — the per capita availability has been falling.",4137.96,4144.72,{"idx":2837,"utterance_id":2838,"speaker_name":176,"text":2839,"start_s":2840,"end_s":2841,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},447,"165586","And the State of São Paulo has all the conditions to increase food production to meet its population's needs.",4145.42,4155.58,{"idx":2843,"utterance_id":2844,"speaker_name":176,"text":2845,"start_s":2846,"end_s":2847,"word_count":338,"indexable":181},448,"165587","Public procurement was already mentioned here; public purchases of food are fundamental: purchases for hospitals, restaurants, universities, city halls, school feeding, the state Secretariat of Education.",4156.18,4171.38,{"idx":2849,"utterance_id":2850,"speaker_name":176,"text":2851,"start_s":2852,"end_s":2853,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},449,"165588","We have to bring technology to family farmers.",4171.78,4176.06,{"idx":2855,"utterance_id":2856,"speaker_name":176,"text":2857,"start_s":2858,"end_s":2859,"word_count":282,"indexable":181},450,"165589","We have research institutes, a lot of knowledge, but those who absorb this knowledge are not the family farmers.",4176.9,4184.68,{"idx":2861,"utterance_id":2862,"speaker_name":176,"text":2863,"start_s":2864,"end_s":2865,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},451,"165590","And I want to share a piece of data that I've been trying to convince people about.",4185.18,4188.58,{"idx":2867,"utterance_id":2868,"speaker_name":176,"text":2869,"start_s":2870,"end_s":2871,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},452,"165591","Our studies.",4189.4,4190.28,{"idx":2873,"utterance_id":2874,"speaker_name":176,"text":2875,"start_s":2876,"end_s":2877,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},453,"165592","In the State of São Paulo today, those who have pasture are not the large [producers].",4191.22,4195.82,{"idx":2879,"utterance_id":2880,"speaker_name":176,"text":2881,"start_s":2882,"end_s":2883,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},454,"165593","Pasture today in the State of São Paulo is no longer synonymous with a large producer, a large farmer.",4197.44,4202.5,{"idx":2885,"utterance_id":2886,"speaker_name":176,"text":2887,"start_s":2888,"end_s":2889,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},455,"165594","It belongs to the small [producer].",4202.78,4203.58,{"idx":2891,"utterance_id":2892,"speaker_name":176,"text":2893,"start_s":2894,"end_s":2895,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},456,"165595","On small holdings, up to 50 hectares, more than half of the area is pasture.",4204.68,4209.98,{"idx":2897,"utterance_id":2898,"speaker_name":176,"text":2899,"start_s":2900,"end_s":2901,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},457,"165596","And this is not for intensive dairy cattle raising.",4211.04,4214.2,{"idx":2903,"utterance_id":2904,"speaker_name":176,"text":2905,"start_s":2906,"end_s":2907,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},458,"165597","It's because there is no other production option in the State of São Paulo.",4214.98,4218.68,{"idx":2909,"utterance_id":2910,"speaker_name":176,"text":2911,"start_s":2912,"end_s":2913,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},459,"165598","We don't have public policies, the market doesn't help.",4219.2,4222.2,{"idx":2915,"utterance_id":2916,"speaker_name":176,"text":2917,"start_s":2918,"end_s":2919,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},460,"165599","So we have to look at these farmers, up to 50 hectares, up to 100 hectares, and encourage them to produce more food.",4222.54,4230.44,{"idx":2921,"utterance_id":2922,"speaker_name":176,"text":2923,"start_s":2924,"end_s":2925,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},461,"165600","To push down the price of food; that also raises income.",4230.5,4234.16,{"idx":2927,"utterance_id":2928,"speaker_name":176,"text":2929,"start_s":2930,"end_s":2931,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},462,"165601","Good afternoon, governor.",4234.84,4235.76,{"idx":2933,"utterance_id":2934,"speaker_name":176,"text":793,"start_s":2935,"end_s":2936,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},463,"165602",4235.98,4236.4,{"idx":2938,"utterance_id":2939,"speaker_name":176,"text":2940,"start_s":2941,"end_s":2942,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},464,"165603","And now Patricia Jair.",4236.48,4253.12,{"idx":2944,"utterance_id":2945,"speaker_name":176,"text":2162,"start_s":2946,"end_s":2947,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},465,"165604",4253.18,4253.98,{"idx":2949,"utterance_id":2950,"speaker_name":176,"text":2951,"start_s":2952,"end_s":2953,"word_count":405,"indexable":181},466,"165605","Participating in this debate, I don't know whether to call the professor my former minister, with whom I had the opportunity to work at the Ministry of Health while he was at the Ministry of Education, and we built the Health in Schools program together.",4254.6,4269.4,{"idx":2955,"utterance_id":2956,"speaker_name":176,"text":2957,"start_s":2958,"end_s":2959,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},467,"165606","of my former mayor or of my colleague from the University of São Paulo.",4269.84,4273.52,{"idx":2961,"utterance_id":2962,"speaker_name":176,"text":2963,"start_s":2964,"end_s":2965,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},468,"165607","So, professor, I wanted to give you the Food Guide for the Brazilian Population.",4274.44,4279.66,{"idx":2967,"utterance_id":2968,"speaker_name":176,"text":2969,"start_s":2970,"end_s":2971,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},469,"165608","This is a source of pride for public food and nutrition policy in Brazil, a product of the Unified Health System.",4280.22,4287.68,{"idx":2973,"utterance_id":2974,"speaker_name":176,"text":2975,"start_s":2976,"end_s":2977,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},470,"165609","So I would also like to bring up this acronym that was not mentioned.",4288.1,4292.88,{"idx":2979,"utterance_id":2980,"speaker_name":176,"text":2981,"start_s":2982,"end_s":2983,"word_count":461,"indexable":181},471,"165610","the importance of integrating public policies, of thinking about the State of São Paulo, which brings together an agenda, an intersectoral agenda, and to say that I think there is no more innovative agenda than the agenda of promoting adequate and healthy eating.",4293.42,4310.34,{"idx":2985,"utterance_id":2986,"speaker_name":176,"text":2987,"start_s":2988,"end_s":2989,"word_count":539,"indexable":181},472,"165611","It is not a sectoral agenda; it involves reducing inequalities, it involves the countryside, but it also involves the debate over urban space, it involves culture, people's right to eat and to see themselves in their food, it involves sustainability, the environmental impact of diets, it involves a State that protects people from corporate interests.",4310.68,4336.32,{"idx":2991,"utterance_id":2992,"speaker_name":176,"text":2993,"start_s":2994,"end_s":2995,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},473,"165612","And now I make, in particular, a request to our future governor:",4336.68,4339.84,{"idx":2997,"utterance_id":2998,"speaker_name":176,"text":2999,"start_s":3000,"end_s":3001,"word_count":282,"indexable":181},474,"165613","that he protect the state institutions of São Paulo that today defend the ultra-processed food industries.",4340.36,4346.6,{"idx":3003,"utterance_id":3004,"speaker_name":176,"text":3005,"start_s":3006,"end_s":3007,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},475,"165614","Spaces like Itaú, which are against what Brazilian food is.",4346.94,4350.78,{"idx":3009,"utterance_id":3010,"speaker_name":176,"text":3011,"start_s":3012,"end_s":3013,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},476,"165615","That we have a State of São Paulo that does not violate the human right of residents of São Paulo with regard to food.",4351.04,4357.22,{"idx":3015,"utterance_id":3016,"speaker_name":176,"text":3017,"start_s":3018,"end_s":3019,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},477,"165616","And more than that, that [the state] promote healthy eating, starting from daycare.",4357.5,4361.12,{"idx":3021,"utterance_id":3022,"speaker_name":176,"text":3023,"start_s":3024,"end_s":3025,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},478,"165617","We have done so much of this in São Paulo, in school feeding spaces, in daycare that welcomes the breastfeeding mother.",4361.52,4367.96,{"idx":3027,"utterance_id":3028,"speaker_name":176,"text":3029,"start_s":3030,"end_s":3031,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},479,"165618","Often breastfeeding is the first act of healthy feeding.",4368.1,4371.58,{"idx":3033,"utterance_id":3034,"speaker_name":176,"text":3035,"start_s":3036,"end_s":3037,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},480,"165619","Even thinking about the availability of healthy foods in all spaces.",4371.8,4376.14,{"idx":3039,"utterance_id":3040,"speaker_name":176,"text":3041,"start_s":3042,"end_s":3043,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},481,"165620","So, I really wanted to praise the program presented by Marcel.",4376.24,4381.12,{"idx":3045,"utterance_id":3046,"speaker_name":176,"text":3047,"start_s":3048,"end_s":3049,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},482,"165621","I am a professor in the area of public food and nutrition policy at the University of São Paulo.",4381.6,4385.8,{"idx":3051,"utterance_id":3052,"speaker_name":176,"text":3053,"start_s":3054,"end_s":3055,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},483,"165622","I use the experience of the municipality of São Paulo as an exemplary case in the construction of the municipal plan for food and nutritional security.",4386.28,4392.34,{"idx":3057,"utterance_id":3058,"speaker_name":176,"text":3059,"start_s":3060,"end_s":3061,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},484,"165623","It wasn't by chance that we received an international award.",4392.7,4396.02,{"idx":3063,"utterance_id":3064,"speaker_name":176,"text":3065,"start_s":3066,"end_s":3067,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},485,"165624","We know how to do it, but I think we can't only look at our positive experiences, at what we have built.",4396.48,4404.14,{"idx":3069,"utterance_id":3070,"speaker_name":176,"text":3071,"start_s":3072,"end_s":3073,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},486,"165625","Our challenge is much greater still.",4404.2,4406.46,{"idx":3075,"utterance_id":3076,"speaker_name":176,"text":3077,"start_s":3078,"end_s":3079,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},487,"165626","And the prospect of thinking of a form of feeding that brings together",4406.9,4410.1,{"idx":3081,"utterance_id":3082,"speaker_name":176,"text":3083,"start_s":3084,"end_s":3085,"word_count":381,"indexable":181},488,"165627","the countryside, the city and the planet — that is good for our bodies, for this generation and for future generations — is something we need to bring into the public policy agenda.",4410.7,4420.8,{"idx":3087,"utterance_id":3088,"speaker_name":176,"text":3089,"start_s":3090,"end_s":3091,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},489,"165628","So, thank you very much.",4421.14,4431.44,{"idx":3093,"utterance_id":3094,"speaker_name":176,"text":3095,"start_s":3096,"end_s":3097,"word_count":515,"indexable":181},490,"165629","together with Emílio de Souza, the station coordinator, and also with Rodaísa Esposato, our dear professor, who works alongside all contributors to the Unified Health System, the Social Assistance System, and, above all, to examine how we will most effectively eradicate poverty and promote greater equality in our State and in our country.",4450.9,4479.14,{"idx":3099,"utterance_id":3100,"speaker_name":176,"text":3101,"start_s":3102,"end_s":3103,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},491,"165630","And for that it is vitally important that we move to unify and streamline, removing the conditionalities of the problems that have been created over these past years.",4479.76,4496.52,{"idx":3105,"utterance_id":3106,"speaker_name":176,"text":3107,"start_s":3108,"end_s":3109,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},492,"165631","Programs such as, for example, São Paulo Acolhe, Vale Graça, Vale Leite, Prospera, Lenda Cidadã, Ação Jovem.",4496.9,4506.46,{"idx":3111,"utterance_id":3112,"speaker_name":176,"text":3113,"start_s":3114,"end_s":3115,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},493,"165632","We need to move quickly now, it is already national law, toward a basic citizenship income.",4506.98,4515.94,{"idx":3117,"utterance_id":3118,"speaker_name":176,"text":3119,"start_s":3120,"end_s":3121,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},494,"165633","The right of every single person, no matter their origin, race, sex, age, marital status or even economic fortune, to participate in the common wealth of our nation.",4516.38,4529.88,{"idx":3123,"utterance_id":3124,"speaker_name":176,"text":3125,"start_s":3126,"end_s":3127,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},495,"165634","It is a mechanism that will... raise the level of justice, dignity and real freedom for all human beings in São Paulo and in Brazil.",4530.46,4544.8,{"idx":3129,"utterance_id":3130,"speaker_name":176,"text":3131,"start_s":3132,"end_s":3133,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},496,"165635","A big hug.",4545.34,4545.94,{"idx":3135,"utterance_id":3136,"speaker_name":176,"text":3137,"start_s":3138,"end_s":3139,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},497,"165636","Thank you very much.",4546.24,4561.82,{"idx":3141,"utterance_id":3142,"speaker_name":176,"text":3143,"start_s":3144,"end_s":3145,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},498,"165637","I would like to thank you for the opportunity to speak here, Enidio, colleagues on the panel, Tereza, Aldaísa.",4563.08,4573.3,{"idx":3147,"utterance_id":3148,"speaker_name":176,"text":3149,"start_s":3150,"end_s":3151,"word_count":387,"indexable":181},499,"165638","We have been fighting together with many of you who are here throughout this period of the Bolsonaro government and the Doria government to be able to propose alternatives to confront poverty.",4573.68,4589.14,{"idx":3153,"utterance_id":3154,"speaker_name":176,"text":3155,"start_s":3156,"end_s":3157,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},500,"165639","Among the alternatives, we know that income transfer programs occupy a rather complicated institutional place.",4589.76,4598.06,{"idx":3159,"utterance_id":3160,"speaker_name":176,"text":3161,"start_s":3162,"end_s":3163,"word_count":226,"indexable":181},501,"165640","And I think that, especially, the discussion of the emergency aid implemented by the Bolsonaro government was a discussion that ignored the Single Social Assistance System and, therefore, the DAD.",4598.5,4611.88,{"idx":3165,"utterance_id":3166,"speaker_name":176,"text":3167,"start_s":3168,"end_s":3169,"word_count":322,"indexable":181},502,"165641","We saw so many lines at the Caixa Econômica, people went there, it wasn't to receive the benefit, it was to ask for information.",4613.26,4619.84,{"idx":3171,"utterance_id":3172,"speaker_name":176,"text":3173,"start_s":3174,"end_s":3175,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},503,"165642","It was to ask for information.",4619.9,4620.98,{"idx":3177,"utterance_id":3178,"speaker_name":176,"text":3179,"start_s":3180,"end_s":3181,"word_count":392,"indexable":181},504,"165643","And contrary to that, you know this, I've told you this before, we have that your program of goals as mayor here in São Paulo consisted of 100 updated goals; after I noticed something, goal 1 and goal 2 were.",4621.68,4638.54,{"idx":3183,"utterance_id":3184,"speaker_name":176,"text":3185,"start_s":3186,"end_s":3187,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},505,"165644","Include people in Bolsa Família, in the Cadastro Único.",4638.94,4643.1,{"idx":3189,"utterance_id":3190,"speaker_name":176,"text":3191,"start_s":3192,"end_s":3193,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},506,"165645","And what was the measure to do that?",4643.48,4645.3,{"idx":3195,"utterance_id":3196,"speaker_name":176,"text":3197,"start_s":3198,"end_s":3199,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},507,"165646","It wasn't any magic trick, it wasn't an app.",4645.66,4648.96,{"idx":3201,"utterance_id":3202,"speaker_name":176,"text":3203,"start_s":3204,"end_s":3205,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},508,"165647","as they want social assistance to become in recent years.",4649.02,4652.92,{"idx":3207,"utterance_id":3208,"speaker_name":176,"text":3209,"start_s":3210,"end_s":3211,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},509,"165648","It was opening CRAS, it was expanding the protection network through the implementation of the SUS.",4653.42,4660.84,{"idx":3213,"utterance_id":3214,"speaker_name":176,"text":3215,"start_s":3216,"end_s":3217,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},510,"165649","This was done in partnership with the federal government when Tereza was there; this was done by the workers here, you ran public exams.",4661.66,4668.02,{"idx":3219,"utterance_id":3220,"speaker_name":176,"text":3221,"start_s":3222,"end_s":3223,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},511,"165650","for social workers in your government.",4668.34,4670.2,{"idx":3225,"utterance_id":3226,"speaker_name":176,"text":3227,"start_s":3228,"end_s":3229,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},512,"165651","And extending the network also means extending income transfer programs.",4670.72,4676.2,{"idx":3231,"utterance_id":3232,"speaker_name":176,"text":3233,"start_s":3234,"end_s":3235,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},513,"165652","And here is an example of what an income transfer program under the State government looks like.",4676.66,4680.56,{"idx":3237,"utterance_id":3238,"speaker_name":176,"text":3239,"start_s":3240,"end_s":3241,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},514,"165653","The Brazilian basic income network has worked hard to challenge Bolsa do Povo.",4681,4687.36,{"idx":3243,"utterance_id":3244,"speaker_name":176,"text":3245,"start_s":3246,"end_s":3247,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},515,"165654","This program that is a patchwork by Rodrigo Garcia and João Dória.",4687.82,4692.4,{"idx":3249,"utterance_id":3250,"speaker_name":176,"text":3251,"start_s":3252,"end_s":3253,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},516,"165655","Within Bolsa do Povo, they put together a lot of things.",4692.78,4697,{"idx":3255,"utterance_id":3256,"speaker_name":176,"text":3257,"start_s":3258,"end_s":3259,"word_count":381,"indexable":181},517,"165656","among which Renda Cidadã, which is an income transfer program for the State government, which would be equivalent to our Bolsa Família, to Renda Mínima here in the city of São Paulo.",4697.9,4708.28,{"idx":3261,"utterance_id":3262,"speaker_name":176,"text":3263,"start_s":3264,"end_s":3265,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},518,"165657","And we raised a question.",4709.02,4710.2,{"idx":3267,"utterance_id":3268,"speaker_name":176,"text":3269,"start_s":3270,"end_s":3271,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},519,"165658","How many people are on Renda Cidadã?",4710.28,4712.78,{"idx":3273,"utterance_id":3274,"speaker_name":176,"text":3275,"start_s":3271,"end_s":3276,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},520,"165659","10,866.",4712.94,{"idx":3278,"utterance_id":3279,"speaker_name":176,"text":3280,"start_s":3281,"end_s":3282,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},521,"165660","What is the waiting list for Renda Cidadã?",4716.72,4718.92,{"idx":3284,"utterance_id":3285,"speaker_name":176,"text":3286,"start_s":3282,"end_s":3287,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},522,"165661","1,860,000 people.",4723.42,{"idx":3289,"utterance_id":3290,"speaker_name":176,"text":3291,"start_s":3292,"end_s":3293,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},523,"165662","What is Auxílio Brasil's waiting list?",4723.96,4726.2,{"idx":3295,"utterance_id":3296,"speaker_name":176,"text":3297,"start_s":3298,"end_s":3299,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},524,"165663","In the federal government, the Renda Cidadã has a queue.",4726.24,4729.94,{"idx":3301,"utterance_id":3302,"speaker_name":176,"text":3303,"start_s":3304,"end_s":3305,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},525,"165664","In the state of São Paulo, families, not people, families, 1,800,000.",4730.44,4737.12,{"idx":3307,"utterance_id":3308,"speaker_name":176,"text":3309,"start_s":3310,"end_s":3311,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},526,"165665","The question was not like that, how many meet the profile of legitimacy.",4737.82,4741.64,{"idx":3313,"utterance_id":3314,"speaker_name":176,"text":3315,"start_s":3316,"end_s":3317,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},527,"165666","The question was, how many are on the list and are eligible to receive?",4741.9,4746.62,{"idx":3319,"utterance_id":3320,"speaker_name":176,"text":3321,"start_s":3317,"end_s":3322,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},528,"165667","1,800,000.",4748.4,{"idx":3324,"utterance_id":3325,"speaker_name":176,"text":3326,"start_s":3327,"end_s":3328,"word_count":551,"indexable":181},529,"165668","So this shows that we have here something to explore that we are able to indicate paths toward: the expansion of the network as a form of expanding the right to income security, which should be universal, in the sense Suplicy speaks of, in collaboration among all federative entities, to the extent it is possible to scale among them to address specific vulnerabilities.",4748.78,4774.46,{"idx":3330,"utterance_id":3331,"speaker_name":176,"text":3332,"start_s":3333,"end_s":3334,"word_count":587,"indexable":181},530,"165669","I will stop here, but I wanted to say that this proposal that is being delivered and that was led by the aldeia, by SUAS workers, by people from CISAM, I co-sign with the president of the Rede Brasileira de Vinda Básica; it has a diagnosis on this, page 18, on benefits management, but there are many other points that are important for us to advance social protection in the State of São Paulo.",4774.88,4796.76,{"idx":3336,"utterance_id":3337,"speaker_name":176,"text":1275,"start_s":3338,"end_s":3339,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},531,"165670",4797.06,4797.5,{"idx":3341,"utterance_id":3342,"speaker_name":176,"text":3343,"start_s":3344,"end_s":3345,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},532,"165671","Next is Karina Vitral, representing the third king; Nayara Teixeira is getting ready.",4811.94,4817,{"idx":3347,"utterance_id":3348,"speaker_name":176,"text":3349,"start_s":3350,"end_s":3351,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},533,"165672","Good evening everyone, good evening Emílio, good evening Professor Haddad.",4817.02,4829.66,{"idx":3353,"utterance_id":3354,"speaker_name":176,"text":3355,"start_s":3356,"end_s":3357,"word_count":27,"indexable":181},534,"165673","Yesterday Professor Haddad was in Santos, in our Baixada Santista, on a very productive agenda there, and I want to greet everyone at the table, who have already contributed greatly to this debate.",4831.56,4844.9,{"idx":3359,"utterance_id":3360,"speaker_name":176,"text":3361,"start_s":3362,"end_s":3363,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},535,"165674","I want to bring here the greeting of the militants of the PCdoB, the Communist Party of Brazil.",4845.54,4851.7,{"idx":3365,"utterance_id":3366,"speaker_name":176,"text":3367,"start_s":3368,"end_s":3369,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},536,"165675","And to say that the PCdoB is very committed, Governor Haddad, to a campaign against the high cost of living.",4852.3,4860.16,{"idx":3371,"utterance_id":3372,"speaker_name":176,"text":3373,"start_s":3374,"end_s":3375,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},537,"165676","I'll give you our little pamphlet here later.",4860.78,4863.22,{"idx":3377,"utterance_id":3378,"speaker_name":176,"text":3379,"start_s":3380,"end_s":3381,"word_count":375,"indexable":181},538,"165677","We who have this tradition of the community movement, here is one of the pioneers of the women's movement against the high cost of living, our dear... Ana Martins, who has been a councilwoman, who has been a deputy in this state.",4863.98,4880,{"idx":3383,"utterance_id":3384,"speaker_name":176,"text":3385,"start_s":3386,"end_s":3387,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},539,"165678","We are reclaiming this tradition.",4880.5,4882.58,{"idx":3389,"utterance_id":3390,"speaker_name":176,"text":3391,"start_s":3392,"end_s":3393,"word_count":43,"indexable":181},540,"165679","So, we are going into the neighborhoods, into the communities, to dialogue with the population about the problem of hunger, but about the broader problem, which is the problem of the high cost of living.",4883.08,4893.46,{"idx":3395,"utterance_id":3396,"speaker_name":176,"text":3397,"start_s":3398,"end_s":3399,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},541,"165680","I am here with this sticker: everything is expensive and it's Bolsonaro's fault.",4894.08,4898.74,{"idx":3401,"utterance_id":3402,"speaker_name":176,"text":3403,"start_s":3404,"end_s":3405,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},542,"165681","It's not just hunger itself, but the prices in the economy in general that trigger a very great difficulty of living with quality of life and having food on the table.",4899.22,4914.78,{"idx":3407,"utterance_id":3408,"speaker_name":176,"text":3409,"start_s":3410,"end_s":3411,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},543,"165682","So I bring here this greeting of struggle from the PCdoB.",4915.22,4919.64,{"idx":3413,"utterance_id":3414,"speaker_name":176,"text":3415,"start_s":3416,"end_s":3417,"word_count":375,"indexable":181},544,"165683","And I want, Haddad, as a pre-candidate for state deputy as well, economist and feminist, to say that there is no way, Governor Haddad, to discuss poverty in Brazil without using a gender lens.",4920.4,4937.04,{"idx":3419,"utterance_id":3420,"speaker_name":176,"text":3421,"start_s":3422,"end_s":3423,"word_count":338,"indexable":181},545,"165684","And I am very appalled, because I have studied this theme in our pre-candidacy; I am very struck by how glaring and how connected these two issues are.",4937.56,4950.02,{"idx":3425,"utterance_id":3426,"speaker_name":176,"text":3427,"start_s":3428,"end_s":3429,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},546,"165685","To give you an idea, Haddad, 46%... of women do not have food on the table to feed their family.",4950.62,4962.6,{"idx":3431,"utterance_id":3432,"speaker_name":176,"text":3433,"start_s":3434,"end_s":3435,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},547,"165686","When the man is the head of household, that percentage falls to 20%.",4963.18,4968.2,{"idx":3437,"utterance_id":3438,"speaker_name":176,"text":3439,"start_s":3440,"end_s":3441,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},548,"165687","But what is the data?",4969.38,4971.34,{"idx":3443,"utterance_id":3444,"speaker_name":176,"text":3445,"start_s":3441,"end_s":3446,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},549,"165688","46% of families in Brazil are headed by single mothers.",4974.36,{"idx":3448,"utterance_id":3449,"speaker_name":176,"text":3450,"start_s":3451,"end_s":3452,"word_count":255,"indexable":181},550,"165689","I have these data for Brazil, I didn't find the breakdown for São Paulo, but understanding that the state of São Paulo also has this correlation, it is one of the most unequal states, poverty, the struggle against poverty... gender inequality.",4977.24,4993.4,{"idx":3454,"utterance_id":3455,"speaker_name":176,"text":3456,"start_s":3457,"end_s":3458,"word_count":349,"indexable":181},551,"165690","So, Professor Haddad, I wanted to discuss with you a very important theme that could be the solution to this problem, which is the care economy.",4993.86,5003.42,{"idx":3460,"utterance_id":3461,"speaker_name":176,"text":3462,"start_s":3463,"end_s":3464,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},552,"165691","Women, Haddad, they work 61 hours per week in unpaid activities.",5004.18,5010.8,{"idx":3466,"utterance_id":3467,"speaker_name":176,"text":3468,"start_s":3469,"end_s":3470,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},553,"165692","What kind of activities?",5011.46,5012.52,{"idx":3472,"utterance_id":3473,"speaker_name":176,"text":3474,"start_s":3475,"end_s":3476,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},554,"165693","Food preparation, washing dishes, grocery shopping, because in our patriarchal society the care work that we all need falls on women.",5012.96,5025.1,{"idx":3478,"utterance_id":3479,"speaker_name":176,"text":3480,"start_s":3481,"end_s":3482,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},555,"165694","What's the problem with that?",5025.5,5026.66,{"idx":3484,"utterance_id":3485,"speaker_name":176,"text":3486,"start_s":3487,"end_s":3488,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},556,"165695","When women have a child, within two years, 40% of women lose their jobs.",5027.06,5033.6,{"idx":3490,"utterance_id":3491,"speaker_name":176,"text":3492,"start_s":3493,"end_s":3494,"word_count":322,"indexable":181},557,"165696","So, in a patriarchal society, motherhood directly means a reduction in a woman's income, the loss of paid activity for an unpaid one.",5034.34,5046.7,{"idx":3496,"utterance_id":3497,"speaker_name":176,"text":3498,"start_s":3499,"end_s":3500,"word_count":387,"indexable":181},558,"165697","Since Silvia Federici, feminists have said... That this unpaid work, which we call love, which is breastfeeding, which is caring, which is caring not only for children but for the elderly, needs to be remunerated.",5047.08,5060.74,{"idx":3502,"utterance_id":3503,"speaker_name":176,"text":3504,"start_s":3505,"end_s":3506,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},559,"165698","Professor, aunties look after them, grandmothers look after them, domestic workers—who are also women—look after them.",5062.1,5082.88,{"idx":3508,"utterance_id":3509,"speaker_name":176,"text":3510,"start_s":3511,"end_s":3512,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},560,"165699","And, urgently, we must discuss the care economy, the remuneration of unpaid work for women.",5083.94,5091.34,{"idx":3514,"utterance_id":3515,"speaker_name":176,"text":3516,"start_s":3517,"end_s":3518,"word_count":338,"indexable":181},561,"165700","And I am sure that if these women not only... of society, but if this work, which is fair and has value, were remunerated, we could, I think...",5091.62,5107.18,{"idx":3520,"utterance_id":3521,"speaker_name":176,"text":3522,"start_s":3523,"end_s":3524,"word_count":444,"indexable":181},562,"165701","I am sure, Haddad, that this could be a path alongside everything that has been discussed here to solve the problems affecting women and gender inequality, so I could not fail to make this women's\u002Ffeminist cut.",5108.04,5126.8,{"idx":3526,"utterance_id":3527,"speaker_name":176,"text":3528,"start_s":3529,"end_s":3530,"word_count":338,"indexable":181},563,"165702","and for all this we need more women in politics, right folks, so let's go. Now Nayara Teixeira and get ready Alain Carvalho.",5127.18,5152.96,{"idx":3532,"utterance_id":3533,"speaker_name":176,"text":3534,"start_s":3535,"end_s":3536,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},564,"165703","Good evening, Professor.",5154.04,5155.2,{"idx":3538,"utterance_id":3539,"speaker_name":176,"text":3540,"start_s":3541,"end_s":3542,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},565,"165704","I am here on behalf of state workers, of the State Secretariat of Social Development, state civil servants, EPF colleagues who are here, and public policy specialists as well.",5156.08,5165.96,{"idx":3544,"utterance_id":3545,"speaker_name":176,"text":3546,"start_s":3547,"end_s":3548,"word_count":485,"indexable":181},566,"165705","And I think we only have one thing, I'll speak a little, but I think the main thing I have to say today is that we hope you will be our next... chief executive; we are very hopeful about that and we are there resisting.",5166.72,5183.28,{"idx":3550,"utterance_id":3551,"speaker_name":176,"text":3552,"start_s":3553,"end_s":3554,"word_count":269,"indexable":181},567,"165706","This is a secretariat that has to deal with the state secretariat, has to deal with social assistance policy in tatters, which is the project of the last nearly 30 years of the PSDB, which did not implement the SUAS, which omitted, was negligent, effectively shirking responsibility.",5183.52,5202.2,{"idx":3556,"utterance_id":3557,"speaker_name":176,"text":3558,"start_s":3559,"end_s":3560,"word_count":497,"indexable":181},568,"165707","To promote social protection, not the delivery of basic food baskets, not simply the delivery of material benefits, but we are talking about a protection network, as our colleague Leandro said here; that is what we need: public units in the territories, funding, we need to work with the data effectively.",5202.9,5221.28,{"idx":3562,"utterance_id":3563,"speaker_name":176,"text":3564,"start_s":3565,"end_s":3566,"word_count":338,"indexable":181},569,"165708","a socio-assistance surveillance system to know what the demand is, which is complex in this State; it is broad, it is large, and we need to begin to address it.",5221.92,5230.82,{"idx":3568,"utterance_id":3569,"speaker_name":176,"text":3570,"start_s":3571,"end_s":3572,"word_count":416,"indexable":181},570,"165709","We are truly there in resistance because we deeply lament all these years that the State of São Paulo has not nurtured them and has not put this public policy, which is a right and a matter of citizenship, into operation.",5231.42,5244.08,{"idx":3574,"utterance_id":3575,"speaker_name":176,"text":3576,"start_s":3577,"end_s":3578,"word_count":545,"indexable":181},571,"165710","So, your challenge will be great: it is a secretariat that today works with less than 50% of positions filled; the salaries of higher-level technicians, who we are—my colleagues here—are two to two minimum wages, a historic struggle that, through the association of which I am general director today, we fight; we were never welcomed, we were never effectively heard.",5244.4,5266.64,{"idx":3580,"utterance_id":3581,"speaker_name":176,"text":3582,"start_s":3583,"end_s":3584,"word_count":43,"indexable":181},572,"165711","So the challenge is big, but we are very, very hopeful that you will be there next year as part of the group's protocol.",5267.22,5274.64,{"idx":3586,"utterance_id":3587,"speaker_name":176,"text":3588,"start_s":3589,"end_s":3590,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},573,"165712","Thank you, Nayara.",5274.66,5285.1,{"idx":3592,"utterance_id":3593,"speaker_name":176,"text":3594,"start_s":3595,"end_s":3596,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},574,"165713","Now Alain Carvalho and then Regina Conceição.",5286.2,5289.08,{"idx":3598,"utterance_id":3599,"speaker_name":176,"text":3600,"start_s":3601,"end_s":3602,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},575,"165714","A very good evening to everyone.",5289.1,5295.8,{"idx":3604,"utterance_id":3605,"speaker_name":176,"text":2162,"start_s":3606,"end_s":3607,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},576,"165715",5296.34,5297.02,{"idx":3609,"utterance_id":3610,"speaker_name":176,"text":3611,"start_s":3612,"end_s":3613,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},577,"165716","Our future governor of the state of São Paulo, Fernando Haddad.",5297.86,5301.1,{"idx":3615,"utterance_id":3616,"speaker_name":176,"text":3617,"start_s":3618,"end_s":3619,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},578,"165717","I extend greetings to the others on the panel, in your person.",5301.86,5305.1,{"idx":3621,"utterance_id":3622,"speaker_name":176,"text":3623,"start_s":3624,"end_s":3625,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},579,"165718","I here as... an activist of the SUAS, a SUAS worker, we are 106,000 workers in the State of São Paulo.",5305.94,5314.1,{"idx":3627,"utterance_id":3628,"speaker_name":176,"text":3629,"start_s":3630,"end_s":3631,"word_count":375,"indexable":181},580,"165719","I must emphatically endorse all the remarks made here at the table, Professor Marisa especially, because they speak to us directly, and Gael Torres, Minister Tereza Campello, pleasure to meet you; we met at the National Conference.",5314.12,5329.46,{"idx":3633,"utterance_id":3634,"speaker_name":176,"text":3635,"start_s":3636,"end_s":3637,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},581,"165720","which inspired the Free Democratic Conference as proof of the affronts that social control spaces have had to resolve by action and omission of these governments.",5330.48,5341.38,{"idx":3639,"utterance_id":3640,"speaker_name":176,"text":3641,"start_s":3642,"end_s":3643,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},582,"165721","Social assistance policy deserves its place of prominence in a State like São Paulo.",5342.64,5348.98,{"idx":3645,"utterance_id":3646,"speaker_name":176,"text":3647,"start_s":3648,"end_s":3649,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},583,"165722","And it is necessary to deconstruct the legacy of Tucaristão of these more than a quarter of a century that was very well exposed here.",5350.14,5356.98,{"idx":3651,"utterance_id":3652,"speaker_name":176,"text":3653,"start_s":3654,"end_s":3655,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},584,"165723","in the speeches that preceded me and I will not repeat them here.",5357.6,5360.44,{"idx":3657,"utterance_id":3658,"speaker_name":176,"text":3659,"start_s":3660,"end_s":3661,"word_count":527,"indexable":181},585,"165724","And we, SUS workers, who built the legal frameworks of this policy from its inception, even inserting its foundational principles into the Federal Constitution, will continue to close ranks, governor, alongside the one who will be our governor, who will effectively deconstruct this project of dismantling and of parallelism that we have suffered for so many decades in our State.",5361.1,5387.02,{"idx":3663,"utterance_id":3664,"speaker_name":176,"text":3665,"start_s":3666,"end_s":3667,"word_count":509,"indexable":181},586,"165725","And it is with the same vigor and the same willingness that we are here renewing this commitment, in defense, yes, of a democratic rule-of-law State, in defense, yes, of a protective State, in defense, yes, of the SUS, against its dismantling, against its degradation, in the most vehement defense of social control spaces.",5387.76,5406.28,{"idx":3669,"utterance_id":3670,"speaker_name":176,"text":3671,"start_s":3672,"end_s":3673,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},587,"165726","Because it will not be different in the State of São Paulo: we will need a solid governing base.",5406.66,5411.36,{"idx":3675,"utterance_id":3676,"speaker_name":176,"text":3677,"start_s":3678,"end_s":3679,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},588,"165727","We have representatives from across the State here: São Paulo, the capital, the Baixada, the Interior, the metropolitan region.",5411.72,5416.82,{"idx":3681,"utterance_id":3682,"speaker_name":176,"text":3683,"start_s":3684,"end_s":3685,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},589,"165728","who will be on the front lines in defense of this project of society that we will implement, yes, finally, taking to the streets for real in the State of São Paulo.",5417.16,5425.96,{"idx":3687,"utterance_id":3688,"speaker_name":176,"text":3689,"start_s":3690,"end_s":3691,"word_count":427,"indexable":181},590,"165729","So we congratulate ourselves, join efforts, wanting to draw attention to our document built together with NET, with TZZ here, FEDSUS, FEDSUS activists who helped build proposals for the SUS in the State of São Paulo.",5426.24,5440.04,{"idx":3693,"utterance_id":3694,"speaker_name":176,"text":3695,"start_s":3696,"end_s":3697,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},591,"165730","And in conclusion, we also have here, already built in São Paulo's history, a proposal to amend the State Constitution to adapt it.",5440.38,5447.76,{"idx":3699,"utterance_id":3700,"speaker_name":176,"text":3701,"start_s":3702,"end_s":3703,"word_count":322,"indexable":181},592,"165731","to the national SUS, to the national social assistance policy, which the State Constitution still neglects, which has been shelved in the Legislative Assembly since 2014.",5448.52,5458.86,{"idx":3705,"utterance_id":3706,"speaker_name":176,"text":3707,"start_s":3708,"end_s":3709,"word_count":249,"indexable":181},593,"165732","We also want to resume the drafting of a state law on the SUS in order to make this same legal framework definitively apply in the State as well, as was very well recalled here.",5459.22,5468.08,{"idx":3711,"utterance_id":3712,"speaker_name":176,"text":3713,"start_s":3714,"end_s":3715,"word_count":21,"indexable":181},594,"165733","because SUAS is a State policy and not a government policy, especially not a clientelistic, patronage-based government that only dismantled and only got in the way.",5468.44,5476.06,{"idx":3717,"utterance_id":3718,"speaker_name":176,"text":3719,"start_s":3720,"end_s":3721,"word_count":9,"indexable":181},595,"165734","We want to value the workers, we want a permanent education core with autonomy to be able to discuss the qualified and ongoing training of these workers.",5476.5,5485.7,{"idx":3723,"utterance_id":3724,"speaker_name":176,"text":3725,"start_s":3726,"end_s":3727,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},596,"165735","We want the establishment of the SUAS negotiating table in the State of São Paulo, which was created but never implemented.",5486,5491.84,{"idx":3729,"utterance_id":3730,"speaker_name":176,"text":3731,"start_s":3732,"end_s":3733,"word_count":171,"indexable":181},597,"165736","And we, I really hadn't seen this, and we want, finally, SUAS to work — valuation, dignity for SUAS workers — because we will continue serving the companies of this policy, together with Governor Bruno Andrade.",5492.32,5507.84,{"idx":3735,"utterance_id":3736,"speaker_name":176,"text":3137,"start_s":3737,"end_s":3738,"word_count":190,"indexable":181},598,"165737",5508.06,5508.72,{"idx":3740,"utterance_id":3741,"speaker_name":176,"text":3742,"start_s":3743,"end_s":3744,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},599,"165738","Good evening to everyone.",5508.9,5518.9,{"idx":3746,"utterance_id":3747,"speaker_name":176,"text":3748,"start_s":3749,"end_s":3750,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},600,"165739","It's a pleasure to be here with you.",5518.96,5530,{"idx":3752,"utterance_id":3753,"speaker_name":176,"text":3754,"start_s":3755,"end_s":3756,"word_count":269,"indexable":181},601,"165740","I was just thinking here, I want to greet the panel, everyone here, comrade, pleasure to meet Tereza, the others here — but the others are from the activism, right, Adade, Jardim Ângela — and in the person of Karina, thinking of so many users, children, adolescents, whom we serve in social assistance policy.",5530.94,5547.8,{"idx":3758,"utterance_id":3759,"speaker_name":176,"text":3760,"start_s":3761,"end_s":3762,"word_count":338,"indexable":181},602,"165741","Nice to meet you too, and it's something that's also on my agenda; I'll try to be very brief, already cutting what everyone has already said.",5548.48,5555.26,{"idx":3764,"utterance_id":3765,"speaker_name":176,"text":3766,"start_s":3767,"end_s":3768,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},603,"165742","I'll speak about Jardim Ângela.",5555.68,5556.88,{"idx":3770,"utterance_id":3771,"speaker_name":176,"text":3772,"start_s":3773,"end_s":3774,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},604,"165743","A place that was once the most violent in the world.",5556.94,5560.06,{"idx":3776,"utterance_id":3777,"speaker_name":176,"text":3778,"start_s":3779,"end_s":3780,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},605,"165744","Our future governor knows that.",5560.48,5562.12,{"idx":3782,"utterance_id":3783,"speaker_name":176,"text":3784,"start_s":3785,"end_s":3786,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},606,"165745","I am also part of the Committee Against Hunger and Misery, which Tonhão is here with us.",5562.42,5566.7,{"idx":3788,"utterance_id":3789,"speaker_name":176,"text":3790,"start_s":3791,"end_s":3792,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},607,"165746","And we thought we would never again need to have this agenda.",5567.14,5570.02,{"idx":3794,"utterance_id":3795,"speaker_name":176,"text":3796,"start_s":3797,"end_s":3798,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},608,"165747","And now we have been strongly witnessing this violence of hunger.",5570.44,5574,{"idx":3800,"utterance_id":3801,"speaker_name":176,"text":3802,"start_s":3803,"end_s":3804,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},609,"165748","Tereza was speaking, we were remembering some things.",5574.32,5577.56,{"idx":3806,"utterance_id":3807,"speaker_name":176,"text":3808,"start_s":3809,"end_s":3810,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},610,"165749","We used to often use the saying that we need to teach people how to fish.",5577.82,5582.22,{"idx":3812,"utterance_id":3813,"speaker_name":176,"text":3814,"start_s":3815,"end_s":3816,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},611,"165750","Today there are no hooks, no fish, the river has dried up, and hunger is knocking at the table.",5582.56,5587.12,{"idx":3818,"utterance_id":3819,"speaker_name":176,"text":3820,"start_s":3821,"end_s":3822,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},612,"165751","And we were even evaluating some things in the speeches that preceded us.",5587.78,5592.08,{"idx":3824,"utterance_id":3825,"speaker_name":176,"text":3826,"start_s":3827,"end_s":3828,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},613,"165752","We need good meals in the pockets of vulnerability.",5593.02,5596.24,{"idx":3830,"utterance_id":3831,"speaker_name":176,"text":3832,"start_s":3833,"end_s":3834,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},614,"165753","So the administration says it is building new ones, but there are places...",5596.42,5600.24,{"idx":3836,"utterance_id":3837,"speaker_name":176,"text":3838,"start_s":3839,"end_s":3840,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},615,"165754","There in Ângelo we had one that was closed; now it seems there is a new one.",5600.32,5604.38,{"idx":3842,"utterance_id":3843,"speaker_name":176,"text":3844,"start_s":3845,"end_s":3846,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},616,"165755","It seems that in Grajaú there was also one closed; I don't know if they've opened it.",5604.62,5608.28,{"idx":3848,"utterance_id":3849,"speaker_name":176,"text":3850,"start_s":3851,"end_s":3852,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},617,"165756","And it seems the administration disguises that things are working when they are not.",5608.78,5613.92,{"idx":3854,"utterance_id":3855,"speaker_name":176,"text":3856,"start_s":3857,"end_s":3858,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},618,"165757","People have already spoken about the 'leve leite' policy and such.",5614.92,5617.04,{"idx":3860,"utterance_id":3861,"speaker_name":176,"text":3862,"start_s":3863,"end_s":3864,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},619,"165758","But you can't talk about hunger again without integrated policies, folks.",5617.46,5621.22,{"idx":3866,"utterance_id":3867,"speaker_name":176,"text":3868,"start_s":3869,"end_s":3870,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},620,"165759","And we need to value SUAS.",5621.82,5623.72,{"idx":3872,"utterance_id":3873,"speaker_name":176,"text":3874,"start_s":3875,"end_s":3876,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},621,"165760","As long as we don't have the legislation, Haddad, it won't work.",5624.14,5627.62,{"idx":3878,"utterance_id":3879,"speaker_name":176,"text":3880,"start_s":3881,"end_s":3882,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},622,"165761","We'll go on for a long time—years and years.",5627.64,5630.48,{"idx":3884,"utterance_id":3885,"speaker_name":176,"text":3886,"start_s":3887,"end_s":3888,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},623,"165762","The student said that there were years of underfunding.",5630.8,5633.08,{"idx":3890,"utterance_id":3891,"speaker_name":176,"text":3892,"start_s":3893,"end_s":3894,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},624,"165763","Geraldo Alckmin's government did not veto it.",5634.02,5637.08,{"idx":64,"utterance_id":3896,"speaker_name":176,"text":3897,"start_s":3898,"end_s":3899,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},"165764","It's there, shelved.",5637.1,5638.48,{"idx":3901,"utterance_id":3902,"speaker_name":176,"text":3903,"start_s":3904,"end_s":3905,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},626,"165765","The municipality is no different, but our talk here is about the State.",5638.76,5642,{"idx":3907,"utterance_id":3908,"speaker_name":176,"text":3909,"start_s":3910,"end_s":3911,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},627,"165766","We need to value it, we need to finance it.",5642.68,5645.36,{"idx":3913,"utterance_id":3914,"speaker_name":176,"text":3915,"start_s":3916,"end_s":3917,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},628,"165767","The government needs to finance small and medium-sized municipalities.",5645.38,5648.96,{"idx":3919,"utterance_id":3920,"speaker_name":176,"text":3921,"start_s":3922,"end_s":3923,"word_count":255,"indexable":181},629,"165768","We are at the limits of the territories; we know how difficult it is to serve this community, this population, which is tossed back and forth, because there is no CRAS that works, a CRAS that has workers.",5649.52,5663.9,{"idx":3925,"utterance_id":3926,"speaker_name":176,"text":3927,"start_s":3928,"end_s":3929,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},630,"165769","The workers are getting sick; I understand very well what Nayara brought up here.",5663.92,5667.96,{"idx":3931,"utterance_id":3932,"speaker_name":176,"text":3933,"start_s":3934,"end_s":3935,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},631,"165770","I'm a neighbor of a CRAS that had only one person working during the pandemic; that's very serious, right?",5668.58,5674.2,{"idx":3937,"utterance_id":3938,"speaker_name":176,"text":3939,"start_s":3940,"end_s":3941,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},632,"165771","So mental health issues are very pronounced.",5674.22,5677.24,{"idx":3943,"utterance_id":3944,"speaker_name":176,"text":3945,"start_s":3946,"end_s":3947,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},633,"165772","And we need healthy workers because we have more than 2 million families needing to update registration in the State of São Paulo.",5677.76,5686.46,{"idx":3949,"utterance_id":3950,"speaker_name":176,"text":3951,"start_s":3952,"end_s":3953,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},634,"165773","What's the problem?",5686.7,5687.42,{"idx":3955,"utterance_id":3956,"speaker_name":176,"text":3957,"start_s":3958,"end_s":3959,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},635,"165774","There's a lack of HR, lack of posts, lack of investment, lack of everything.",5687.72,5690.72,{"idx":3961,"utterance_id":3962,"speaker_name":176,"text":3963,"start_s":3964,"end_s":3965,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},636,"165775","But what about this budget?",5691.12,5692.44,{"idx":3967,"utterance_id":3968,"speaker_name":176,"text":3969,"start_s":3970,"end_s":3971,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},637,"165776","Without a budget you can't work.",5692.78,5694.24,{"idx":3973,"utterance_id":3974,"speaker_name":176,"text":3975,"start_s":3976,"end_s":3977,"word_count":300,"indexable":181},638,"165777","So we need this budget, which only covers about 10% of the state's expenses — it's not enough.",5694.46,5703.76,{"idx":3979,"utterance_id":3980,"speaker_name":176,"text":3981,"start_s":3982,"end_s":3983,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},639,"165778","We need to make a lot of progress.",5703.84,5705.3,{"idx":3985,"utterance_id":3986,"speaker_name":176,"text":3987,"start_s":3988,"end_s":3989,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},640,"165779","I can't fail to say that if the State, if the municipality decided to work with social organizations, it needs to work with the organizations as partners.",5705.84,5715.34,{"idx":3991,"utterance_id":3992,"speaker_name":176,"text":3993,"start_s":3994,"end_s":3995,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},641,"165780","Aguinaldo is here — give him a little wave.",5715.9,5717.94,{"idx":3997,"utterance_id":3998,"speaker_name":176,"text":3999,"start_s":4000,"end_s":4001,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},642,"165781","We worked a lot on the civil society regulatory framework, without 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policy.",5732.92,5737.96,{"idx":4027,"utterance_id":4028,"speaker_name":176,"text":4029,"start_s":4030,"end_s":4031,"word_count":282,"indexable":181},647,"165786","Because we have been suffering the consequences of this neglect, this lack of investment, this lack of resources.",5738.5,5744.72,{"idx":4033,"utterance_id":4034,"speaker_name":176,"text":4035,"start_s":4036,"end_s":4037,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},648,"165787","We need to tackle the eradication of child labor at the state level.",5745.08,5749.3,{"idx":4039,"utterance_id":4040,"speaker_name":176,"text":4041,"start_s":4042,"end_s":4043,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},649,"165788","Youth illiteracy combined with malnutrition.",5749.32,5752.3,{"idx":4045,"utterance_id":4046,"speaker_name":176,"text":4047,"start_s":4048,"end_s":4049,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},650,"165789","Review the flow of the pró-vita do PPK, which deals with violence in the State; there is a dismantling in that and we must expand services to strengthen bonds.",5752.88,5762.66,{"idx":4051,"utterance_id":4052,"speaker_name":176,"text":4053,"start_s":4054,"end_s":4055,"word_count":405,"indexable":181},651,"165790","But we, as activists, want to tell the Haddad government that we want to be part of this administration — in planning, in execution and also in evaluation — to make the streets in the city of São Paulo and in the State better.",5763.26,5775.32,{"idx":4057,"utterance_id":4058,"speaker_name":176,"text":4059,"start_s":4060,"end_s":4061,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},652,"165791","Count on us.",5775.58,5776.36,{"idx":4063,"utterance_id":4064,"speaker_name":176,"text":1275,"start_s":4065,"end_s":4066,"word_count":183,"indexable":181},653,"165792",5776.4,5776.9,{"idx":4068,"utterance_id":4069,"speaker_name":176,"text":4070,"start_s":4071,"end_s":4072,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},654,"165793","Well, there are only two more registered speakers.",5782.38,5786.66,{"idx":4074,"utterance_id":4075,"speaker_name":176,"text":4076,"start_s":4077,"end_s":4078,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},655,"165794","So we are already approaching the end here.",5786.74,5791.18,{"idx":4080,"utterance_id":4081,"speaker_name":176,"text":4082,"start_s":4083,"end_s":4084,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},656,"165795","Next is Professor Sônia Crupa, who is a professor of education at USP's Faculty of Education.",5791.94,5799.3,{"idx":4086,"utterance_id":4087,"speaker_name":176,"text":4088,"start_s":4089,"end_s":4090,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},657,"165796","And lastly, Anderson Miranda.",5801.12,5802.4,{"idx":4092,"utterance_id":4093,"speaker_name":176,"text":4094,"start_s":4095,"end_s":4096,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},658,"165797","Good evening to all.",5802.42,5806.34,{"idx":512,"utterance_id":4098,"speaker_name":176,"text":4099,"start_s":4100,"end_s":4101,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},"165798","Good evening, Andrade, governor.",5806.38,5808.24,{"idx":4103,"utterance_id":4104,"speaker_name":176,"text":4105,"start_s":4106,"end_s":4107,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},660,"165799","And to everyone who helped us from afar during the pandemic.",5808.3,5816.2,{"idx":4109,"utterance_id":4110,"speaker_name":176,"text":4111,"start_s":4112,"end_s":4113,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},661,"165800","for us to think about public schools and food security.",5816.7,5820.16,{"idx":4115,"utterance_id":4116,"speaker_name":176,"text":4117,"start_s":4118,"end_s":4119,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},662,"165801","Right?",5820.62,5821.3,{"idx":4121,"utterance_id":4122,"speaker_name":176,"text":4123,"start_s":4124,"end_s":4125,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},663,"165802","So, we learned terrible lessons during the pandemic.",5821.92,5823.8,{"idx":4127,"utterance_id":4128,"speaker_name":176,"text":4129,"start_s":4130,"end_s":4131,"word_count":264,"indexable":181},664,"165803","Sometimes, despite all the difficulty, we have to be grateful for it.",5824.5,5828.64,{"idx":4133,"utterance_id":4134,"speaker_name":176,"text":4135,"start_s":4136,"end_s":4137,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},665,"165804","We in education were forced to open the school's doors.",5829.34,5833.36,{"idx":4139,"utterance_id":4140,"speaker_name":176,"text":4141,"start_s":4142,"end_s":4143,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},666,"165805","And that made a big difference.",5834.14,5836.12,{"idx":4145,"utterance_id":4146,"speaker_name":176,"text":4147,"start_s":4148,"end_s":4149,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},667,"165806","Not that education professionals weren't already doing that.",5836.34,5841.2,{"idx":4151,"utterance_id":4152,"speaker_name":176,"text":4153,"start_s":4154,"end_s":4155,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},668,"165807","But, let's say, the school has a reach that gets to the grassroots.",5841.94,5850.48,{"idx":4157,"utterance_id":4158,"speaker_name":176,"text":4159,"start_s":4160,"end_s":4161,"word_count":269,"indexable":181},669,"165808","And I come from that place; I'm from education, but I have worked with Aldaísa, with public health, in an integrated course at the University of São Paulo that sought to carry out a matricial approach in four hubs of the city of São Paulo, where we learned a lot.",5851.22,5869.3,{"idx":4163,"utterance_id":4164,"speaker_name":176,"text":4165,"start_s":4166,"end_s":4167,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},670,"165809","And I come here, therefore, to speak as a result of that learning.",5869.78,5874.08,{"idx":61,"utterance_id":4169,"speaker_name":176,"text":4170,"start_s":4171,"end_s":4172,"word_count":479,"indexable":181},"165810","but also as a result of learning with Singer, the great Professor Paul, who taught us to think about local development and the ways we can act in an integrated way, not only through public policies but also with public banks, with public agents, with health agents.",5874.48,5900.36,{"idx":4174,"utterance_id":4175,"speaker_name":176,"text":4176,"start_s":4177,"end_s":4178,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},672,"165811","And thus the importance of the territory.",5900.82,5903.08,{"idx":4180,"utterance_id":4181,"speaker_name":176,"text":4182,"start_s":4183,"end_s":4184,"word_count":257,"indexable":181},673,"165812","Therefore, thinking about the territory is fundamental for us to think about public policies.",5903.56,5909.46,{"idx":4186,"utterance_id":4187,"speaker_name":176,"text":4188,"start_s":4189,"end_s":4190,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},674,"165813","This was said here by several people and it was very well said.",5909.52,5913.12,{"idx":4192,"utterance_id":4193,"speaker_name":176,"text":4194,"start_s":4195,"end_s":4196,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},675,"165814","And I want to tell you, Adagio, that this material must form part of the continuous training collection of 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Raise your hand.",6161.68,6163.88,{"idx":4423,"utterance_id":4424,"speaker_name":176,"text":4425,"start_s":4426,"end_s":4427,"word_count":234,"indexable":181},714,"165853","Who goes to Bom Prato, raise your hand.",6164.36,6165.84,{"idx":4429,"utterance_id":4430,"speaker_name":176,"text":4431,"start_s":4432,"end_s":4433,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},715,"165854","A round of applause for us.",6165.86,6167.12,{"idx":4435,"utterance_id":4436,"speaker_name":176,"text":4437,"start_s":4438,"end_s":4439,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},716,"165855","It's important, but dear governor, we can't be saying 'governor, governor', because we know the Borobodó that comes.",6167.16,6179.68,{"idx":4441,"utterance_id":4442,"speaker_name":176,"text":4443,"start_s":4444,"end_s":4445,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},717,"165856","We already have to speak of the future so that we guarantee that four there on the 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Adade, my teacher, my mayor, because I say mayor, because I was a counselor of Adade.",6265.42,6273.06,{"idx":4577,"utterance_id":4578,"speaker_name":176,"text":4579,"start_s":4580,"end_s":4581,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},740,"165879","I was a counselor of the city government.",6273.72,6274.96,{"idx":4583,"utterance_id":4584,"speaker_name":176,"text":4585,"start_s":4586,"end_s":4587,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},741,"165880","And every time, over the four years, Adade listened to me.",6275.46,6279.1,{"idx":4589,"utterance_id":4590,"speaker_name":176,"text":4591,"start_s":4592,"end_s":4593,"word_count":4,"indexable":181},742,"165881","And I handed a little paper to Adade's Federal Tereza.",6279.5,6283.04,{"idx":4595,"utterance_id":4596,"speaker_name":176,"text":4597,"start_s":4598,"end_s":4599,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},743,"165882","Look, the Cadastro Único is saying this, that Adade listened to 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hardest.",7335.48,7337.78,{"idx":5993,"utterance_id":5994,"speaker_name":176,"text":5995,"start_s":5996,"end_s":5997,"word_count":294,"indexable":181},978,"166117","And of course the issue of Cracolândia arose and the Praça Abertos problem and this high mortality among the trans population.",7339.06,7347.64,{"idx":5999,"utterance_id":6000,"speaker_name":176,"text":6001,"start_s":6002,"end_s":6003,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},979,"166118","who don't live past 40, and so we launched Transcidadania.",7348.34,7353,{"idx":6005,"utterance_id":6006,"speaker_name":176,"text":6007,"start_s":6008,"end_s":6009,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},980,"166119","Why did we launch these two programs?",7353.54,7355.56,{"idx":6011,"utterance_id":6012,"speaker_name":176,"text":6013,"start_s":6014,"end_s":6015,"word_count":416,"indexable":181},981,"166120","I said, let's start by showing society that no one will be left behind, that our government will not discriminate against anyone, that we will show the way for everyone to take a small step forward, evolve, progress, evolve, develop their potential.",7356.38,7375.28,{"idx":6017,"utterance_id":6018,"speaker_name":176,"text":6019,"start_s":6020,"end_s":6021,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},982,"166121","Let's demonstrate.",7376.24,7377.46,{"idx":6023,"utterance_id":6024,"speaker_name":176,"text":6025,"start_s":6026,"end_s":6027,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},983,"166122","that it's possible to humanize São Paulo.",7378.2,7380.64,{"idx":6029,"utterance_id":6030,"speaker_name":176,"text":6031,"start_s":6032,"end_s":6033,"word_count":197,"indexable":181},984,"166123","Humanize São Paulo.",7381.74,7383.16,{"idx":6035,"utterance_id":6036,"speaker_name":176,"text":6037,"start_s":6038,"end_s":6039,"word_count":195,"indexable":181},985,"166124","And we set those two programs 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Was social assistance in the ways that Vigaril told us here.",7465.46,7470.64,{"idx":6137,"utterance_id":6138,"speaker_name":176,"text":6139,"start_s":6140,"end_s":6141,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},1002,"166141","Something punctual, particularistic, and it had a universal character.",7471.14,7475.76,{"idx":6143,"utterance_id":6144,"speaker_name":176,"text":6145,"start_s":6146,"end_s":6147,"word_count":60,"indexable":181},1003,"166142","Even because of the absence of the State, let's tell the truth, and let's condemn those entities that grew because of the absence and omission of the State.",7477.48,7487.9,{"idx":6149,"utterance_id":6150,"speaker_name":176,"text":6151,"start_s":6152,"end_s":6153,"word_count":282,"indexable":181},1004,"166143","And many of them have that understanding, that it wasn't a case of them appropriating the public.",7489.7,7496.4,{"idx":6155,"utterance_id":6156,"speaker_name":176,"text":6157,"start_s":6158,"end_s":6159,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},1005,"166144","What do you mean it didn't exist?",7496.96,7497.86,{"idx":6161,"utterance_id":6162,"speaker_name":176,"text":6163,"start_s":6164,"end_s":6165,"word_count":49,"indexable":181},1006,"166145","And they began, so much so that it's as if they struck a nice agreement with the APAES, to say the following: you can have a role in society.",7499.12,7508.68,{"idx":6167,"utterance_id":6168,"speaker_name":176,"text":6169,"start_s":6170,"end_s":6171,"word_count":210,"indexable":181},1007,"166146","We want you to have that.",7509.48,7510.9,{"idx":6173,"utterance_id":6174,"speaker_name":176,"text":6175,"start_s":6176,"end_s":6177,"word_count":349,"indexable":181},1008,"166147","But do that in the second shift, for those children with severe disabilities, and leave the first shift for the child's socialization in public school and in the regular classroom.",7511.52,7522.06,{"idx":6179,"utterance_id":6180,"speaker_name":176,"text":6181,"start_s":6182,"end_s":6183,"word_count":204,"indexable":181},1009,"166148","They are building Fundeb.",7522.08,7524.76,{"idx":6185,"utterance_id":6186,"speaker_name":176,"text":6187,"start_s":6188,"end_s":6189,"word_count":287,"indexable":181},1010,"166149","with the entities, without discriminating, because we know the spiel they've had throughout history.",7525.72,7532.18,{"idx":6191,"utterance_id":6192,"speaker_name":176,"text":6193,"start_s":6194,"end_s":6195,"word_count":306,"indexable":181},1011,"166150","All of this is built by intelligence, by wisdom, by care, by a talent we've developed to deal with these situations.",7532.5,7542.96,{"idx":6197,"utterance_id":6198,"speaker_name":176,"text":6199,"start_s":6200,"end_s":6201,"word_count":180,"indexable":181},1012,"166151","And I think SUS has to be built along those lines.",7543.74,7546.34,{"idx":6203,"utterance_id":6204,"speaker_name":176,"text":6205,"start_s":6206,"end_s":6207,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},1013,"166152","What is shameful is none of that.",7546.38,7549.78,{"idx":6209,"utterance_id":6210,"speaker_name":176,"text":6211,"start_s":6212,"end_s":6213,"word_count":216,"indexable":181},1014,"166153","We will know how to face the challenge.",7551.4,7553.36,{"idx":6215,"utterance_id":6216,"speaker_name":176,"text":6217,"start_s":6218,"end_s":6219,"word_count":262,"indexable":181},1015,"166154","What is shameful... is the situation of the state of São Paulo compared to the other states.",7553.38,7560.22,{"idx":6221,"utterance_id":6222,"speaker_name":176,"text":6223,"start_s":6224,"end_s":6225,"word_count":271,"indexable":181},1016,"166155","The state that should lead the process, also because it has more strength, is richer.",7561.54,7567.38,{"idx":6227,"utterance_id":6228,"speaker_name":176,"text":6229,"start_s":6230,"end_s":6231,"word_count":381,"indexable":181},1017,"166156","The state that should have 22% of the population here, a state that has almost a quarter of the population, should precisely, on environmental issues, on science and technology, on assistance, set an example.",7567.4,7581.94,{"idx":6233,"utterance_id":6234,"speaker_name":176,"text":6235,"start_s":6236,"end_s":6237,"word_count":202,"indexable":181},1018,"166157","At the very least, be a showcase for some public policies.",7583.1,7586.22,{"idx":6239,"utterance_id":6240,"speaker_name":176,"text":6241,"start_s":6242,"end_s":6243,"word_count":188,"indexable":181},1019,"166158","And it isn't. 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