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I respect and admire.",1020.14,1027,"45e7055f-4972-4045-92b6-f90ca7521048","preserve and recover the credibility of the Judiciary","Declares respect and admiration for André Mendonça, defending him from comparisons.",{"idx":1523,"utterance_id":1524,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1525,"start_s":1526,"end_s":1527,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},233,"194435","He is not a show-off justice like the others.",1027.88,1031.12,{"idx":1529,"utterance_id":1530,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1531,"start_s":1532,"end_s":1533,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},234,"194436","You've seen his posture, right?",1031.14,1033.18,{"idx":1535,"utterance_id":1536,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1537,"start_s":1538,"end_s":1539,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},235,"194437","A serious justice.",1033.74,1034.8,{"idx":1541,"utterance_id":1542,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1543,"start_s":1544,"end_s":1545,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},236,"194438","He's taking on a 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they're trying to equate him with the other ministers.",1055.86,1067.52,{"idx":1591,"utterance_id":1592,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1593,"start_s":1594,"end_s":1595,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},244,"194446","It has nothing to do with it.",1067.56,1068.92,{"idx":1597,"utterance_id":1598,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1599,"start_s":1600,"end_s":1601,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":40,"topic_label":37,"target_id":1519,"target_proposition":1520,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":1602,"indexable":702},245,"194447","André Mendonça is another level, far superior to those who took a free ride.",1069.28,1075.92,"Says André Mendonça is 'outro nível', distinguishing him from others.",{"idx":28,"utterance_id":1604,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1605,"start_s":1606,"end_s":1607,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},"194448","I'm sure he would never hitch a 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In the event you become president of Brazil, my question is very simple; it's a question I'd like to ask everyone.",1129.7,1151.4,{"idx":1680,"utterance_id":1681,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1682,"start_s":1683,"end_s":1684,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},259,"194461","What are the short-, medium-, and long-term plans regarding rare earths in Brazil?",1152.4,1159.58,{"idx":1686,"utterance_id":1687,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1688,"start_s":1689,"end_s":1690,"word_count":278,"indexable":74},260,"194462","I know, I'm familiar with this area, I know you can't do everything at once, that you need something for now, something for the medium term, something for the long term.",1159.68,1167.56,{"idx":1692,"utterance_id":1693,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1694,"start_s":1695,"end_s":1696,"word_count":331,"indexable":74},261,"194463","If something truly long-term... We know it goes beyond a single term, because it's something that takes much longer than a term, far more than four years, if this is of interest to whoever is president — in your case, if you were president, you understand?",1168,1183.24,{"idx":1698,"utterance_id":1699,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1700,"start_s":1701,"end_s":1702,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},262,"194464","But basically that's it.",1184.28,1185.4,{"idx":1704,"utterance_id":1705,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1706,"start_s":1707,"end_s":1708,"word_count":32,"indexable":74},263,"194465","The short-, medium-, and long-term plans, how to deal with the environmental issue and how to deal with processing, which we know is one of the big problems of rare earths 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hug.",1232.52,1233.24,{"idx":1750,"utterance_id":1751,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1752,"start_s":1753,"end_s":1754,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},270,"194472","Great evening to everyone there.",1233.5,1234.48,{"idx":1756,"utterance_id":1757,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1758,"start_s":1759,"end_s":1760,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},271,"194473","Great evening to everyone who's listening.",1234.78,1237.42,{"idx":1762,"utterance_id":1763,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1764,"start_s":1765,"end_s":1766,"word_count":101,"indexable":74},272,"194474","And, as I say, everywhere I'm lecturing, everywhere I'm speaking, ask your politician.",1237.72,1244.22,{"idx":1768,"utterance_id":1769,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1770,"start_s":1771,"end_s":1772,"word_count":103,"topic_slug":1773,"topic_label":1774,"target_id":1775,"target_proposition":1776,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":1777,"indexable":74},273,"194475","They have to have a plan.",1244.52,1245.28,"transparencia-e-compromissos-de-governo","Transparency and Government Commitments","699d63c8-8919-474b-bd5d-067a846500ad","present a public government plan","Says politicians must have a public plan.",{"idx":1779,"utterance_id":1780,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1781,"start_s":1782,"end_s":1783,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":1773,"topic_label":1774,"target_id":1775,"target_proposition":1776,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":1784,"indexable":702},274,"194476","What you can't have is no plan.",1246.06,1247.26,"Reiterates there must be a public government plan.",{"idx":1786,"utterance_id":1787,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1788,"start_s":1789,"end_s":1790,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":1773,"topic_label":1774,"target_id":1775,"target_proposition":1776,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":1791,"indexable":702},275,"194477","You may not agree with their plan, but they have to have a plan.",1247.62,1250.22,"Argues that even if people disagree, a politician must have a plan.",{"idx":1793,"utterance_id":1794,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1795,"start_s":1796,"end_s":1797,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},276,"194478","Big hug.",1250.6,1251.22,{"idx":1799,"utterance_id":1800,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1801,"start_s":1802,"end_s":1803,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},277,"194479","What's your plan, Zema?",1252.52,1253.6,{"idx":1805,"utterance_id":1806,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1807,"start_s":1808,"end_s":1809,"word_count":103,"topic_slug":1773,"topic_label":1774,"target_id":1775,"target_proposition":1776,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":1810,"indexable":74},278,"194480","It can't be a secret plan.",1255.3,1256.38,"Says explicitly that the plan cannot be secret.",{"idx":1812,"utterance_id":1813,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1814,"start_s":1815,"end_s":1816,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":1773,"topic_label":1774,"target_id":1775,"target_proposition":1776,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":1817,"indexable":74},279,"194481","It's not secret, no.",1257.36,1258.4,"Says the plan 'não é secreto', advocating transparency.",{"idx":1819,"utterance_id":1820,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1821,"start_s":1822,"end_s":1823,"word_count":266,"topic_slug":1714,"topic_label":1715,"target_id":1824,"target_proposition":1825,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":1826,"indexable":702},280,"194482","Vilela, I always like to say that rare earths here in Brazil need to follow a path similar to the one Brazil followed and was very successful at, which is the case of niobium.",1259.84,1277.4,"b9a8a277-f33f-4316-9ed4-4351fdc52e6c","carry out mineral processing and beneficiation in Brazil","Proposes following the niobium example and mastering national technology.",{"idx":1828,"utterance_id":1829,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1830,"start_s":1831,"end_s":1832,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},281,"194483","I don't know if you know the case of niobium.",1278.18,1280.92,{"idx":1834,"utterance_id":1835,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1836,"start_s":1837,"end_s":1838,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},282,"194484","Brazil's largest niobium mine is in the city of Araxá.",1282.04,1287.98,{"idx":1840,"utterance_id":1841,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1842,"start_s":1843,"end_s":1844,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},283,"194485","Around 70 or 80 years ago that deposit was discovered in Araxá.",1288,1296.08,{"idx":1846,"utterance_id":1847,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1848,"start_s":1849,"end_s":1850,"word_count":266,"indexable":74},284,"194486","And a Brazilian company that formed a joint venture, an association with an American company, developed all the technology to separate the niobium from the soil, from the mud, from the clay where it is found there.",1297.56,1316.56,{"idx":1852,"utterance_id":1853,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1854,"start_s":1855,"end_s":1856,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},285,"194487","In the city of Araxá.",1316.98,1318.2,{"idx":1858,"utterance_id":1859,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1860,"start_s":1861,"end_s":1862,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},286,"194488","This was developed here in Brazil.",1318.9,1321.32,{"idx":1864,"utterance_id":1865,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1866,"start_s":1867,"end_s":1868,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},287,"194489","There was participation by foreign companies, but Brazilian capital, let it be clear, has always been the majority.",1321.9,1330.72,{"idx":1870,"utterance_id":1871,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1872,"start_s":1873,"end_s":1874,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},288,"194490","They also developed the method to industrialize this niobium.",1331.6,1338.3,{"idx":1876,"utterance_id":1877,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1878,"start_s":1879,"end_s":1880,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},289,"194491","They extracted the niobium and now?",1339.4,1341.58,{"idx":1882,"utterance_id":1883,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1884,"start_s":1885,"end_s":1886,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},290,"194492","Can it become metal?",1342.04,1343.02,{"idx":1888,"utterance_id":1889,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1890,"start_s":1891,"end_s":1892,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},291,"194493","Can it become a chemical for the pharmaceutical industry, can it become a component for the optics industry, what can it become?",1343.7,1353.48,{"idx":1894,"utterance_id":1895,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1896,"start_s":1897,"end_s":1898,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},292,"194494","And, besides that, they developed applications.",1353.5,1359.52,{"idx":612,"utterance_id":1900,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1901,"start_s":1902,"end_s":1903,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},"194495","I was born in that city, so I can say I witnessed it.",1360.6,1364.02,{"idx":1905,"utterance_id":1906,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1907,"start_s":1908,"end_s":1909,"word_count":301,"indexable":74},294,"194496","Throughout my life, I saw metallurgy conferences held there... metallurgy is the main application of ferro-niobium or niobium, with participation from metallurgical engineers from Europe, Asia, North America, from all over the world.",1364.6,1386.28,{"idx":1911,"utterance_id":1912,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1913,"start_s":1914,"end_s":1915,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},295,"194497","They would stay there for a week showing their studies, learning about the company's production process.",1386.96,1394.8,{"idx":1917,"utterance_id":1918,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1919,"start_s":1920,"end_s":1921,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},296,"194498","And today that company there — it's a Brazilian company, it has foreign capital, but more than 70% of it is Brazilian.",1395.54,1406.54,{"idx":1923,"utterance_id":1924,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1925,"start_s":1926,"end_s":1927,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},297,"194499","And it holds all that technology which is registered to it.",1407.42,1413.66,{"idx":1929,"utterance_id":1930,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1931,"start_s":1932,"end_s":1933,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},298,"194500","It's a Brazilian technology.",1414.34,1417.02,{"idx":1935,"utterance_id":1936,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1937,"start_s":1938,"end_s":1939,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},299,"194501","And it's an extremely profitable company.",1417.74,1421.44,{"idx":1941,"utterance_id":1942,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1943,"start_s":1944,"end_s":1945,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},300,"194502","It's perhaps one of the most valuable companies in Brazil.",1422.04,1425.12,{"idx":1947,"utterance_id":1948,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1949,"start_s":1950,"end_s":1951,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},301,"194503","But because it operates in a niche that nobody knows about, because it's not typical consumer stuff, nobody ever bought pure niobium.",1425.6,1432.88,{"idx":1953,"utterance_id":1954,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1955,"start_s":1956,"end_s":1957,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},302,"194504","But there may be niobium in our cell phones, in the airplane we fly on — there's niobium everywhere.",1433.54,1438.92,{"idx":1959,"utterance_id":1960,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1961,"start_s":1962,"end_s":1963,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},303,"194505","But it was the aerospace industry that put it there, or it was the electronics industry that put it there.",1439.26,1444.86,{"idx":1965,"utterance_id":1966,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1967,"start_s":1968,"end_s":1969,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},304,"194506","So that company makes all the difference.",1445.38,1449.64,{"idx":1971,"utterance_id":1972,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1973,"start_s":1974,"end_s":1975,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},305,"194507","In the city of Araxá, in Minas Gerais and in Brazil.",1450.14,1453.96,{"idx":1977,"utterance_id":1978,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1979,"start_s":1980,"end_s":1981,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},306,"194508","In Minas, it's always among the state's largest exporters.",1454.46,1460.96,{"idx":1983,"utterance_id":1984,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1985,"start_s":1986,"end_s":1987,"word_count":284,"topic_slug":1714,"topic_label":1715,"target_id":1824,"target_proposition":1825,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":1988,"indexable":702},307,"194509","So I say that mastering the technology is fundamental, because Brazil cannot continue making the same mistakes of the past, as still happens with mining, which I am sad to see, with iron ore.",1461.94,1478.66,"Says mastering the technology is fundamental and criticizes exporting raw ore.",{"idx":34,"utterance_id":1990,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1991,"start_s":1992,"end_s":1993,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":1714,"topic_label":1715,"target_id":1824,"target_proposition":1825,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":1994,"indexable":702},"194510","Iron ore in Minas undergoes beneficiation and is exported with little added value.",1479.28,1486.04,"Reports that iron ore is minimally processed and exported at low value.",{"idx":1996,"utterance_id":1997,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1998,"start_s":1999,"end_s":2000,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},309,"194511","And Brazil then imports steel, mainly from China, to which it sold the iron ore.",1486.58,1496.28,{"idx":2002,"utterance_id":2003,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2004,"start_s":2005,"end_s":2006,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":1714,"topic_label":1715,"target_id":1824,"target_proposition":1825,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":2007,"indexable":702},310,"194512","So, for me, that's not the way.",1496.52,1499.52,"States that exporting raw ore 'não é o caminho'.",{"idx":2009,"utterance_id":2010,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2011,"start_s":2012,"end_s":2013,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":2014,"topic_label":2015,"target_id":2016,"target_proposition":2017,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":2018,"indexable":702},311,"194513","The way is for us to provide full legal security to whoever is extracting.",1500.04,1508.08,"seguranca-juridica","Legal Certainty","f0810a6d-3b8f-4a55-a469-7b75f09d14f3","ensure legal certainty for extraction and processing of minerals in Brazil","Argues for providing legal certainty to those who extract and industrialize.",{"idx":2020,"utterance_id":2021,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2022,"start_s":2023,"end_s":2024,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":1714,"topic_label":1715,"target_id":1824,"target_proposition":1825,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":2025,"indexable":702},312,"194514","For whoever is processing, industrializing rare earths here in Brazil, involve the federal universities to help with research.",1508.5,1521.12,"Proposes processing and industrialization of rare earths in Brazil.",{"idx":2027,"utterance_id":2028,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2029,"start_s":2030,"end_s":2031,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":2032,"topic_label":2033,"target_id":2034,"target_proposition":2035,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":2036,"indexable":74},313,"194515","That was done in the case of niobium; federal universities also participated.",1521.32,1527.32,"tecnologia-e-inteligencia-artificial","Technology and Artificial Intelligence","fe11811c-7848-4a6d-9d88-e74ed2947a25","coordinate federal universities for applied research on strategic minerals","reports that federal universities participated in the niobium case.",{"idx":2038,"utterance_id":2039,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2040,"start_s":2041,"end_s":2042,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},314,"194516","And besides that, we have financing here.",1528,1530.9,{"idx":2044,"utterance_id":2045,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2046,"start_s":2047,"end_s":2048,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},315,"194517","Many companies that want to create jobs in Brazil, that will pay taxes, need financing.",1531.9,1539.56,{"idx":2050,"utterance_id":2051,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2052,"start_s":2053,"end_s":2054,"word_count":172,"topic_slug":2055,"topic_label":2056,"target_id":2057,"target_proposition":2058,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":2059,"indexable":702},316,"194518","If it's a solid project that stands on its own, the government has to step in as a financing agent.",1540.18,1547.52,"politica-comercial","Commercial Policy","fe53a17f-270c-4046-8932-34539509b54c","offer public financing for strategic industrial projects","states that 'o governo tem de entrar como agente financiador'.",{"idx":22,"utterance_id":2061,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2062,"start_s":2063,"end_s":2064,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},"194519","Of course, taking all guarantees, etc.",1547.56,1550.48,{"idx":2066,"utterance_id":2067,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2068,"start_s":2069,"end_s":2070,"word_count":307,"topic_slug":2055,"topic_label":2056,"target_id":2071,"target_proposition":2072,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":2073,"indexable":702},318,"194520","So I say that the path rare earths will follow is the same that lithium has also followed in Minas Gerais — for those who don't know, during my tenure as governor we created the Vale do Lítio (Lithium Valley).",1550.56,1565.86,"746239e3-94c8-45aa-994d-7abd91b5f6a6","promote development of a national value chain for energy and mining","claims to have created the Lithium Valley during his administration.",{"idx":2075,"utterance_id":2076,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2077,"start_s":2078,"end_s":2079,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},319,"194521","In northern Minas, Vilela, we had one of the state's least developed regions, which is the Vale do Jequitinhonha, which was even known as the region of widows of living husbands.",1566.86,1582.34,{"idx":2081,"utterance_id":2082,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2083,"start_s":2084,"end_s":2085,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},320,"194522","Because most of the men would leave for other states, mainly São Paulo, southern Minas, to work and would send a little money back to the wives who stayed behind taking care of the children.",1583.1,1595.98,{"idx":2087,"utterance_id":2088,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2089,"start_s":2090,"end_s":2091,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},321,"194523","A very sad reality.",1596.56,1598.54,{"idx":2093,"utterance_id":2094,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2095,"start_s":2096,"end_s":2097,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":2098,"topic_label":2099,"target_id":2100,"target_proposition":2101,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":2102,"indexable":702},322,"194524","During my administration, we brought several lithium companies to that region, to the Vale do Jequitinhonha, which created thousands of direct and indirect jobs.",1599.5,1612.82,"desenvolvimento-regional","Regional Development","f0a41618-cc9c-4b7d-a846-e9222ace466e","build an industrial mineral processing park in the Vale do Jequitinhonha","says he attracted lithium companies and created local jobs.",{"idx":2104,"utterance_id":2105,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2106,"start_s":2107,"end_s":2108,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":2098,"topic_label":2099,"target_id":2100,"target_proposition":2101,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":2109,"indexable":702},323,"194525","And that region, which was the least developed in Minas, was the one that grew the most.",1613.44,1619.62,"attributes regional growth to policies implemented during his administration.",{"idx":2111,"utterance_id":2112,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2113,"start_s":2114,"end_s":2115,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":2098,"topic_label":2099,"target_id":2100,"target_proposition":2101,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":2116,"indexable":702},324,"194526","In job openings, in job generation, proportionally to the population in the last five or six years.",1620.38,1629.28,"cites job creation as a result of his actions.",{"idx":2118,"utterance_id":2119,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2120,"start_s":2121,"end_s":2122,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},325,"194527","Exactly for that reason.",1629.7,1631.7,{"idx":2124,"utterance_id":2125,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2126,"start_s":2127,"end_s":2128,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},326,"194528","Someone who had a small restaurant there today has several large restaurants.",1632.36,1637.62,{"idx":2130,"utterance_id":2131,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2132,"start_s":2133,"end_s":2134,"word_count":101,"indexable":74},327,"194529","I met an entrepreneur there who had... 30 cars to rent; today he has 400 cars to rent to these companies that set up there.",1638.1,1648.64,{"idx":2136,"utterance_id":2137,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2138,"start_s":2139,"end_s":2140,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},328,"194530","Hotels multiplied because now demand is large.",1649.08,1653.28,{"idx":2142,"utterance_id":2143,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2144,"start_s":2145,"end_s":2146,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},329,"194531","There are always people doing maintenance, building, etc.",1653.4,1657.68,{"idx":2148,"utterance_id":2149,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2150,"start_s":2151,"end_s":2152,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},330,"194532","So that's what I want.",1658.54,1660.18,{"idx":2154,"utterance_id":2155,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2156,"start_s":2157,"end_s":2158,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":2055,"topic_label":2056,"target_id":2071,"target_proposition":2072,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":2159,"indexable":702},331,"194533","And to add value to the companies that are there in the Lithium Valley, in the Vale do Jequitinhonha.",1660.28,1665.8,"declares a commitment to add value to local companies.",{"idx":2161,"utterance_id":2162,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2163,"start_s":2164,"end_s":2165,"word_count":54,"topic_slug":2055,"topic_label":2056,"target_id":2071,"target_proposition":2072,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":2166,"indexable":702},332,"194534","To have the commitment to, over time, keep adding value until we reach a battery, which is the product with the highest added value, in the case of lithium.",1666.28,1679.38,"commits to adding value up to producing higher-value batteries.",{"idx":2168,"utterance_id":2169,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2170,"start_s":2171,"end_s":2172,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},333,"194535","And in the case of rare earths, the matter of magnets, for which they are 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the last major environmental disaster in Minas, which was the Brumadinho tragedy, which happened in my first month in office.",1698.58,1711.34,"claims to have confronted Brumadinho as governor.",{"idx":2192,"utterance_id":2193,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2194,"start_s":2195,"end_s":2196,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":2181,"target_proposition":2182,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":2197,"indexable":702},336,"194538","And I said, Minas Gerais will never face that again.",1711.72,1714.78,"promises that Minas 'nunca mais' will face tragedies like Brumadinho.",{"idx":2199,"utterance_id":2200,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2201,"start_s":2202,"end_s":2203,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":2181,"target_proposition":2182,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":2204,"rationale":2205,"indexable":74},337,"194539","And since then, the state has only become safer.",1715.18,1719.22,0.72,"claims the state became safer after measures were adopted.",{"idx":2207,"utterance_id":2208,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2209,"start_s":2210,"end_s":2211,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":1714,"topic_label":1715,"target_id":2212,"target_proposition":2213,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":2214,"indexable":702},338,"194540","And with these companies, which have even adopted... filtration mining technology, which no longer uses reservoirs, dams — the risk is infinitely smaller.",1719.64,1732.86,"368cd174-3c58-4ff4-953d-72a4ea8acdaa","promote dam-free mining technologies (filtering) to reduce risks","mentions filtration technology that removes reservoirs and reduces risk.",{"idx":2216,"utterance_id":2217,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2218,"start_s":2219,"end_s":2220,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":2181,"target_proposition":2182,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":2221,"indexable":702},339,"194541","So, care for the environment is being exercised.",1734,1737.12,"argues that environmental care should be exercised in mining operations.",{"idx":2223,"utterance_id":2224,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2225,"start_s":2226,"end_s":2227,"word_count":244,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":2228,"target_proposition":2229,"stance":2230,"stance_confidence":2231,"rationale":2232,"indexable":74},340,"194542","And we must remember that Brazil, due to the eco-Chiites, has already made many mistaken decisions that harmed... economic development and also the environment, as unbelievable as it may seem.",1737.66,1754.12,"cffe68dc-7f8f-4f82-bacd-b50064eb1a02","adjust environmental preservation policies to prioritize local well-being","ambiguo",0.55,"criticizes 'eco-chiítas' and past decisions, with no concrete policy proposed.",{"idx":2234,"utterance_id":2235,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2236,"start_s":2227,"end_s":2237,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},341,"194543","Twenty, thirty years ago, large hydroelectric plants were built in the northern region.",1761.72,{"idx":2239,"utterance_id":2240,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2241,"start_s":2242,"end_s":2243,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},342,"194544","Belo Monte, Santo Antônio — those two were built as run-of-river plants.",1762.3,1769.1,{"idx":2245,"utterance_id":2246,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2247,"start_s":2248,"end_s":2249,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},343,"194545","Because you couldn't put water in a reservoir because it would flood forest.",1769.52,1775.16,{"idx":2251,"utterance_id":2252,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2253,"start_s":2254,"end_s":2255,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},344,"194546","But the plan for rare earths, huh?",1775.18,1776.72,{"idx":2257,"utterance_id":2258,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2259,"start_s":2260,"end_s":2261,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},345,"194547","What are we going to do?",1776.96,1777.78,{"idx":2263,"utterance_id":2264,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2265,"start_s":2266,"end_s":2267,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},346,"194548","But I'd just like to make a comparison here.",1777.82,1779.84,{"idx":2269,"utterance_id":2270,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2271,"start_s":2272,"end_s":2273,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},347,"194549","They were built as run-of-river and today, Vilela, they're building thermal power plants in Brazil to meet demand.",1780.38,1788.48,{"idx":2275,"utterance_id":2276,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2277,"start_s":2278,"end_s":2279,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},348,"194550","How 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proposal.",{"idx":2299,"utterance_id":2300,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2301,"start_s":2302,"end_s":2303,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":2304,"topic_label":2305,"target_id":2306,"target_proposition":2307,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":2308,"indexable":702},351,"194553","So we have to remember that lithium... that electromagnets are fundamental in this energy transition that the globe is going through, that humanity is going through.",1796.12,1808.04,"meio-ambiente-e-energia-renovavel","Environment and renewable energy","e5e3fa08-2217-43bf-8eaa-87ad7f90f830","actively participate in the energy transition by developing a supply chain for lithium and rare earths","states that lithium and electromagnets are fundamental to the energy transition.",{"idx":2310,"utterance_id":2311,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2312,"start_s":2313,"end_s":2314,"word_count":331,"indexable":74},352,"194554","So, if Minas Gerais has a mine today, that mine will contribute to preventing a lot of fossil fuel from being emitted in the future, which are electric motors, motors for wind power, are... equipment that will be used in photovoltaic cells and so on.",1808.6,1830.38,{"idx":2316,"utterance_id":2317,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2318,"start_s":2319,"end_s":2320,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},353,"194555","So we have to remember.",1830.8,1832,{"idx":2322,"utterance_id":2323,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2324,"start_s":2325,"end_s":2326,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":2304,"topic_label":2305,"target_id":2306,"target_proposition":2307,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":808,"rationale":2327,"indexable":702},354,"194556","What is being extracted today, people say, they're digging a hole here, but it's to avoid burning fossil fuel.",1832.66,1840.48,"argues extraction can be a way to avoid burning fossil fuels.",{"idx":2329,"utterance_id":2330,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2331,"start_s":2332,"end_s":2333,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},355,"194557","So, at this moment of energy transition, the demand for copper, for several minerals, increases a lot.",1840.88,1848.46,{"idx":2335,"utterance_id":2336,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2337,"start_s":2338,"end_s":2339,"word_count":190,"topic_slug":2055,"topic_label":2056,"target_id":2340,"target_proposition":2341,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":2342,"indexable":702},356,"194558","And Brazil needs to participate and call its trading partners and even negotiate well and say, I sell to you.",1848.84,1857.7,"2afb123c-4226-44da-a932-50a829b9dae0","Open markets and negotiate trade agreements","proposes selling industrial goods in a 'combo' with commercial offsets.",{"idx":2344,"utterance_id":2345,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2346,"start_s":2347,"end_s":2348,"word_count":272,"topic_slug":2055,"topic_label":2056,"target_id":2340,"target_proposition":2341,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":2349,"indexable":702},357,"194559","but I want to sell you the industrialized product, but I want that for you to buy this here, you buy meat from me, you buy grain from me, put that on the scale to be able to earn better.",1858.02,1872.26,"suggests making purchases of industrial goods contingent on trade offsets (meat, grains).",{"idx":2351,"utterance_id":2352,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2353,"start_s":2354,"end_s":2355,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},358,"194560","This is the moment we have.",1872.66,1873.96,{"idx":2357,"utterance_id":2358,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2359,"start_s":2360,"end_s":2361,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":2055,"topic_label":2056,"target_id":2340,"target_proposition":2341,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":2362,"indexable":702},359,"194561","If you have an exceptional product, you can be... making a bundle so that your customer takes the bundle, without affecting commercial interests, a win-win relationship.",1874.52,1887.58,"recommends offering a commercial 'combo' for mutual gain.",{"idx":2364,"utterance_id":2365,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2366,"start_s":2367,"end_s":2368,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2369,"target_proposition":2370,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":2371,"indexable":702},360,"194562","But Brazil needs to take advantage of this the same way several Arab countries, Vilela, took advantage of the oil boom.",1887.86,1896.66,"aace5e24-bafb-414d-8a6a-de7e2ad9ab81","develop science, technology and industrialize the country","advocates taking advantage of the minerals boom like oil-producing countries.",{"idx":2373,"utterance_id":2374,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2375,"start_s":2376,"end_s":2377,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},361,"194563","Anyone who's been to the Emirates,",1897.16,1899.72,{"idx":2379,"utterance_id":2380,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2381,"start_s":2382,"end_s":2383,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},362,"194564","etc.,",1900.14,1900.32,{"idx":2385,"utterance_id":2386,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2387,"start_s":2388,"end_s":2389,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},363,"194565","knows what they did.",1900.8,1901.98,{"idx":2391,"utterance_id":2392,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2393,"start_s":2394,"end_s":2395,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2396,"target_proposition":2397,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":2398,"rationale":2399,"indexable":74},364,"194566","There are others, like Venezuela, that went backwards.",1902.18,1906.22,"307e92d1-d3ef-41b7-8a52-10e94d367601","implement market economic policies in natural resource management",0.65,"criticizes Venezuela and socialism, suggesting market-oriented policies.",{"idx":2401,"utterance_id":2402,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2403,"start_s":2404,"end_s":2405,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},365,"194567","Today, Venezuela is a ruined country and is sitting on one of the largest oil reserves in the world.",1907.6,1914.36,{"idx":2407,"utterance_id":2408,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2409,"start_s":2410,"end_s":2411,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},366,"194568","Where socialist ideas arrive, this happens.",1914.76,1918.62,{"idx":2413,"utterance_id":2414,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2415,"start_s":2416,"end_s":2417,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},367,"194569","Let's move on to public security, right, my dear Romer?",1919.36,1922.42,{"idx":2419,"utterance_id":2420,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2421,"start_s":2422,"end_s":2423,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},368,"194570","Let's go.",1923.62,1923.9,{"idx":2425,"utterance_id":2426,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2427,"start_s":2428,"end_s":2429,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},369,"194571","Let's do Pimentel.",1929.7,1930.84,{"idx":2431,"utterance_id":2432,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2433,"start_s":2434,"end_s":2435,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},370,"194572","Play the video, please, director.",1931.36,1932.7,{"idx":2437,"utterance_id":2438,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2439,"start_s":2440,"end_s":2441,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},371,"194573","Vilela, thank you very much for the opportunity to be here with you at this special event.",1933.26,1938.78,{"idx":2443,"utterance_id":2444,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2445,"start_s":2446,"end_s":2447,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},372,"194574","And it's an honor to ask questions to the presidential candidates.",1939.56,1942.3,{"idx":2449,"utterance_id":2450,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2451,"start_s":2452,"end_s":2453,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},373,"194575","Logically, questions about public security.",1942.34,1945,{"idx":2455,"utterance_id":2456,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2457,"start_s":2458,"end_s":2459,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},374,"194576","I would like to ask candidate Zema about something that doesn't greatly impact the Brazilian's life.",1945.7,1952.38,{"idx":2461,"utterance_id":2462,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2463,"start_s":2464,"end_s":2465,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},375,"194577","Brazilians are truly more worried about cell phone theft.",1953.24,1956.42,{"idx":2467,"utterance_id":2468,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2469,"start_s":2470,"end_s":2471,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},376,"194578","But something that doesn't impact the citizen's life, but greatly impacts Brazil's image abroad.",1957.14,1962.42,{"idx":2473,"utterance_id":2474,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2475,"start_s":2476,"end_s":2477,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2478,"target_proposition":2479,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":2480,"indexable":702},377,"194579","Brazil today, candidate Zema, is the largest cocaine gateway in the world.",1963.22,1967.72,"d0ea1eb9-9530-48d7-90b3-ef18ddea699c","conduct federal operations against drug trafficking and arms trafficking","says Brazil is the largest cocaine launchpad and offers no immediate proposal.",{"idx":2482,"utterance_id":2483,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2484,"start_s":2485,"end_s":2486,"word_count":250,"indexable":74},378,"194580","All the cocaine produced in South America crosses the Solimões Route and seeks Brazilian ports to reach Italy, Spain, Portugal, England, also France.",1968.96,1981.82,{"idx":2488,"utterance_id":2489,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2490,"start_s":2491,"end_s":2492,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2493,"target_proposition":2494,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":2495,"indexable":702},379,"194581","Do you have any idea, sir, in your relentless plan, to use the Armed Forces, Army, Navy, Air Force, in combating trafficking on the Solimões Route?",1982.56,1995.02,"c6015ac5-4113-400c-9721-98e3c8797fbd","mobilize all federal institutions to combat organized crime","asks about using the Armed Forces to combat the Solimões Route.",{"idx":2497,"utterance_id":2498,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2499,"start_s":2500,"end_s":2501,"word_count":244,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2493,"target_proposition":2494,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":2502,"indexable":702},380,"194582","Because truly... The Federal Police and the Military Police of Amazonas and of Pará do not have the resources, logistical capacity to operate over that territorial dimension that is the Amazon region.",1995.14,2008.24,"alleges that regional police lack logistics, justifying the Armed Forces.",{"idx":2504,"utterance_id":2505,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2506,"start_s":2507,"end_s":2508,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},381,"194583","So I ask you about actions for effective combat against the Solimões Route, the largest cocaine gateway in the world.",2008.42,2015.92,{"idx":2510,"utterance_id":2511,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2512,"start_s":2513,"end_s":2514,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},382,"194584","Great Pimentel, we have a plan.",2018.82,2024.14,{"idx":2516,"utterance_id":2517,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2518,"start_s":2519,"end_s":2520,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},383,"194585","yes, Vilela.",2024.26,2024.98,{"idx":2522,"utterance_id":2523,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2524,"start_s":2525,"end_s":2526,"word_count":409,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":2527,"target_proposition":2528,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":2529,"indexable":702},384,"194586","My plan, which is this relentless plan he mentioned, is that as soon as I assume the presidency, together with the neighboring countries involved — I'm talking about Bolivia, Colombia, Peru, those three countries are the producers, the drug route — we, together with the United States, will monitor this region as never before.",2025.54,2057.48,"94d53a3f-4f32-473a-8858-4d8244073730","combat organized crime through international cooperation","proposes monitoring together with Bolivia, Colombia, Peru, and the United 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PF.",{"idx":2545,"utterance_id":2546,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2547,"start_s":2548,"end_s":2549,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},387,"194589","And I want to decree, I say that Brazil today is a country that is no longer sovereign.",2073.5,2080.76,{"idx":2551,"utterance_id":2552,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2553,"start_s":2554,"end_s":2555,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},388,"194590","So many people talk about sovereignty, sovereignty.",2081.38,2083.94,{"idx":2557,"utterance_id":2558,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2559,"start_s":2560,"end_s":2561,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2562,"target_proposition":2563,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":2564,"indexable":702},389,"194591","Brazil today is controlled by organized crime.",2084.38,2087.3,"68870c5c-74fa-43f1-8d60-79651a044907","reoccupy territories dominated by criminal factions","claims that Brazil is controlled by organized 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electricity, for the internet, if someone there has a business.",2105.82,2116.5,{"idx":2585,"utterance_id":2586,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2587,"start_s":2588,"end_s":2589,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},393,"194595","They also have to pay a monthly allowance.",2116.9,2119.16,{"idx":2591,"utterance_id":2592,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2593,"start_s":2594,"end_s":2595,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},394,"194596","And these people are the ones who run everything.",2119.7,2122.1,{"idx":2597,"utterance_id":2598,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2599,"start_s":2600,"end_s":2601,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},395,"194597","They collect billions and, in addition to controlling territory, they traffic drugs.",2122.46,2130.36,{"idx":2603,"utterance_id":2604,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2605,"start_s":2606,"end_s":2607,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},396,"194598","Both activities are extremely 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Light.",2143.28,2144.26,{"idx":2632,"utterance_id":2633,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2634,"start_s":2635,"end_s":2636,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},401,"194603","It was Light, right?",2144.48,2145,{"idx":2638,"utterance_id":2639,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2640,"start_s":2641,"end_s":2642,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},402,"194604","My father... When we left the light on we used to say, I think I'm a shareholder of Light.",2145.08,2148.68,{"idx":2644,"utterance_id":2645,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1572,"start_s":2646,"end_s":2647,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},403,"194605",2149.36,2149.94,{"idx":2649,"utterance_id":2650,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2651,"start_s":2652,"end_s":2653,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},404,"194606","Did you hear that too, Rony?",2150.06,2151.82,{"idx":2655,"utterance_id":2656,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2657,"start_s":2658,"end_s":2659,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},405,"194607","And do you know that Light is going bankrupt?",2151.84,2153.58,{"idx":2661,"utterance_id":2662,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2663,"start_s":2664,"end_s":2665,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},406,"194608","It's going bankrupt.",2154.1,2154.72,{"idx":2667,"utterance_id":2668,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2669,"start_s":2670,"end_s":2671,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},407,"194609","It is in a bankrupt situation.",2154.86,2156.26,{"idx":2673,"utterance_id":2674,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2675,"start_s":2676,"end_s":2677,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},408,"194610","And do you know why?",2156.52,2157.58,{"idx":2679,"utterance_id":2680,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2681,"start_s":2682,"end_s":2683,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},409,"194611","I ran into an executive the other day.",2157.78,2159.78,{"idx":2685,"utterance_id":2686,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2687,"start_s":2688,"end_s":2689,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},410,"194612","It's public news.",2159.86,2163.22,{"idx":2691,"utterance_id":2692,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2693,"start_s":2689,"end_s":2694,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},411,"194613","52% — more than half of what it supplies in energy, Vilela.",2167.86,{"idx":2696,"utterance_id":2697,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2698,"start_s":2699,"end_s":2700,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},412,"194614","Is stolen.",2167.94,2168.34,{"idx":2702,"utterance_id":2703,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2704,"start_s":2705,"end_s":2706,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},413,"194615","It doesn't receive it.",2168.9,2169.82,{"idx":2708,"utterance_id":2709,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2710,"start_s":2711,"end_s":2712,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},414,"194616","Someone is receiving it.",2170.3,2171.56,{"idx":2714,"utterance_id":2715,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2716,"start_s":2717,"end_s":2718,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},415,"194617","And it is organized crime that receives it.",2171.68,2174.1,{"idx":2720,"utterance_id":2721,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2722,"start_s":2723,"end_s":2724,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2493,"target_proposition":2494,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":2725,"indexable":702},416,"194618","So I will deploy the entire apparatus of the State to fight organized crime.",2174.9,2182.88,"Announces he will put 'todo o aparato do Estado' against organized crime.",{"idx":2727,"utterance_id":2728,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2729,"start_s":2730,"end_s":2731,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},417,"194619","And up there the heads are the same.",2182.92,2184.86,{"idx":2733,"utterance_id":2734,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2735,"start_s":2736,"end_s":2737,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},418,"194620","Whoever controls territory is the one who rents jets, ships, speedboats to be able to carry the drugs.",2184.98,2191.96,{"idx":2739,"utterance_id":2740,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2741,"start_s":2742,"end_s":2743,"word_count":355,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2744,"target_proposition":2745,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":2746,"indexable":702},419,"194621","And when you start cutting off the heads... putting these people behind bars, you begin to destabilize these organizations and also conduct intelligence-based combat, which is through the Federal Revenue Service, COAF, ABIN, and declare these institutions, factions, criminal organizations as terrorists.",2192.52,2218.04,"6bedbc9a-93d7-4bb4-8d40-3a2cafade9a8","dismantle organized crime leadership and their financial structures","Proposes arresting leaders, using intelligence, and declaring factions as terrorists.",{"idx":2748,"utterance_id":2749,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2750,"start_s":2751,"end_s":2752,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},420,"194622","Last year, I had the opportunity to go and see... personally the work that was done in El Salvador, which followed this line.",2218.82,2229.1,{"idx":2754,"utterance_id":2755,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2756,"start_s":2757,"end_s":2758,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2744,"target_proposition":2745,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":2759,"indexable":702},421,"194623","If it's a faction, if it's a criminal organization, it's a terrorist.",2229.96,2234.6,"States that gangs and criminal organizations should be treated as terrorists.",{"idx":2761,"utterance_id":2762,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2763,"start_s":2764,"end_s":2765,"word_count":212,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":25,"target_id":2766,"target_proposition":2767,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":2768,"indexable":702},422,"194624","If it's a terrorist, it's at least 25 years' imprisonment with no kind of benefit, including no conjugal visits, no private meetings with a lawyer.",2234.76,2248.06,"115c33b1-efc8-4599-bf46-f820129b5d89","impose differentiated treatment on factions (harsher penalties, special prisons, isolation, and financial strangulation)","Proposes a minimum sentence of 25 years without benefits for terrorists.",{"idx":2770,"utterance_id":2771,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2772,"start_s":2773,"end_s":2774,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},423,"194625","Everything recorded, everything monitored.",2248.36,2250.66,{"idx":2776,"utterance_id":2777,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2778,"start_s":2779,"end_s":2780,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2744,"target_proposition":2745,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":2781,"indexable":702},424,"194626","It's about treating criminals as criminals and not as victims of society, as our president says.",2251.08,2258.8,"Opposes treating them as 'vítima' and calls for severe punishment.",{"idx":2783,"utterance_id":2784,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2785,"start_s":2786,"end_s":2787,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},425,"194627","There is a way, yes.",2259.56,2260.8,{"idx":2789,"utterance_id":2790,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2791,"start_s":2792,"end_s":2793,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":2527,"target_proposition":2528,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":2794,"indexable":702},426,"194628","And cooperation from the United States does not in any way mean loss of sovereignty.",2260.82,2266.58,"Supports collaboration with the US without it implying a loss of sovereignty.",{"idx":2796,"utterance_id":2797,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2798,"start_s":2799,"end_s":2800,"word_count":172,"topic_slug":2801,"topic_label":2802,"target_id":2803,"target_proposition":2804,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":2805,"indexable":702},427,"194629","It does mean satellites helping to monitor this region, which we know is difficult to access, more technology.",2266.68,2276.26,"politica-externa-e-diplomacia","Foreign Policy and Diplomacy","6fea0959-fe10-4d67-b8c4-2a8df685e44b","strengthen international cooperation in combating drug trafficking","Proposes using satellites and technology to monitor the region.",{"idx":2807,"utterance_id":2808,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2809,"start_s":2810,"end_s":2811,"word_count":331,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":2527,"target_proposition":2528,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":2812,"indexable":702},428,"194630","training for our men here to be able to operate our equipment better or others that may come, because the United States and Europe, where the consumption of narcotics, of cocaine, is concentrated, have the greatest interest in ending this drug route here.",2276.68,2297.34,"Advocates training and partner technology for our forces.",{"idx":2814,"utterance_id":2815,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2816,"start_s":2817,"end_s":2818,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2819,"target_proposition":2820,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":2821,"indexable":702},429,"194631","So, it is necessary... for us to take this stance of fighting crime as has never happened in Brazil.",2297.86,2307.04,"e242d5d7-724f-43b0-a600-2cd3d361bcc0","mobilize the armed forces in operations in the Amazon","Calls for a firm stance and intensifying the fight against organized crime.",{"idx":2823,"utterance_id":2824,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2825,"start_s":2826,"end_s":2827,"word_count":190,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2744,"target_proposition":2745,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":2398,"rationale":2828,"indexable":74},430,"194632","We have a lax government, a president who says, as I said now, that traffickers are victims of society.",2307.4,2314.52,"Criticizes the government for treating traffickers as 'vítimas' and calls for punishment.",{"idx":2830,"utterance_id":2831,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2832,"start_s":2833,"end_s":2834,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},431,"194633","Where someone is a victim, you will help them and not punish them.",2315.48,2319.96,{"idx":2836,"utterance_id":2837,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2838,"start_s":2839,"end_s":2840,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":29,"topic_label":25,"target_id":2766,"target_proposition":2767,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":2841,"indexable":74},432,"194634","What I want is punishment.",2320.18,2321.44,"Declares explicitly 'eu quero é punição'.",{"idx":2843,"utterance_id":2844,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2845,"start_s":2846,"end_s":2847,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},433,"194635","Let's now go to the next video there, Cobori, right?",2322.86,2327.62,{"idx":2849,"utterance_id":2850,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2851,"start_s":2852,"end_s":2853,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},434,"194636","Let's talk about the economy, please.",2327.68,2329.34,{"idx":2855,"utterance_id":2856,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2421,"start_s":2857,"end_s":2858,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},435,"194637",2336.1,2336.36,{"idx":2860,"utterance_id":2861,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":635,"start_s":2862,"end_s":2863,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},436,"194638",2339.62,2340.34,{"idx":2865,"utterance_id":2866,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2867,"start_s":2868,"end_s":2869,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},437,"194639","Good evening, candidate Romeu Zema.",2340.38,2341.92,{"idx":2871,"utterance_id":2872,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2873,"start_s":2874,"end_s":2875,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},438,"194640","Let's go to the subject of the economy.",2342.34,2344.04,{"idx":2877,"utterance_id":2878,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2879,"start_s":2880,"end_s":2881,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},439,"194641","In the current global geopolitical conflicts that we are going through and witnessing, the dispute for commercial, logistical and energy routes becomes clear.",2344.7,2354.22,{"idx":2883,"utterance_id":2884,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2885,"start_s":2886,"end_s":2887,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},440,"194642","That is, the world's largest capitalist economy literally declared war on other nations to defend what it considers strategic.",2354.58,2363.16,{"idx":2889,"utterance_id":2890,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2891,"start_s":2892,"end_s":2893,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},441,"194643","Why, in the face of such a clear scenario?",2363.66,2365.82,{"idx":2895,"utterance_id":2896,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2897,"start_s":2898,"end_s":2899,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},442,"194644","in the dispute over the world economy?",2366.04,2367.72,{"idx":2901,"utterance_id":2902,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2903,"start_s":2904,"end_s":2905,"word_count":201,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":2908,"indexable":702},443,"194645","And over the sovereignty of countries, do you defend this ultra-liberal agenda of privatizing state-owned companies, especially Petrobras and the Post Office?",2368.06,2377.86,"17fa5559-678a-48c9-9558-f65ad285c574","promote an agenda of privatizations and reforms","Asks the candidate whether he supports a privatization agenda.",{"idx":2910,"utterance_id":2911,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2912,"start_s":2913,"end_s":2914,"word_count":301,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":2915,"indexable":702},444,"194646","Did you know that the United States' state postal service, the USPS, has accumulated a deficit of more than 120 billion dollars over the last 18 years and that in 2025 alone... it had a fiscal deficit of 9 billion dollars?",2378.58,2392.62,"Brings data about the USPS deficit when questioning privatization.",{"idx":2917,"utterance_id":2918,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2919,"start_s":2920,"end_s":2921,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},445,"194647","And that American society, economists and politicians do not even consider privatizing their state company because they consider it precisely strategic for defending the country's sovereignty?",2392.84,2403.78,{"idx":2923,"utterance_id":2924,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2925,"start_s":2926,"end_s":2927,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},446,"194648","And that in the wars declared by the United States, it literally said that its ultimate interest is oil?",2404.14,2410.26,{"idx":2929,"utterance_id":2930,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2931,"start_s":2932,"end_s":2933,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},447,"194649","Why, in the face of such a clear geopolitical scenario?",2410.72,2413.46,{"idx":2935,"utterance_id":2936,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2937,"start_s":2938,"end_s":2939,"word_count":26,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":2940,"indexable":74},448,"194650","in the defense of sovereignty and of a national project, do you support the privatization of companies like Petrobras and the Post Office?",2413.88,2421.52,"Reiterates the question about support for privatizing Petrobras and Correios.",{"idx":2942,"utterance_id":2943,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2944,"start_s":2945,"end_s":2946,"word_count":212,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":2947,"indexable":74},449,"194651","Which theoretical basis are you using, sir, and why do you believe this is truly relevant to developing the country's economy?",2421.88,2429.56,"Questions the candidate's theoretical basis for defending privatizations.",{"idx":2949,"utterance_id":2950,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2951,"start_s":2952,"end_s":2953,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},450,"194652","A big hug and a hug, my friend Villela.",2430.66,2435.56,{"idx":2955,"utterance_id":2956,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2957,"start_s":2958,"end_s":2959,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},451,"194653","Thank you, Cobori.",2435.62,2437.62,{"idx":2961,"utterance_id":2962,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2963,"start_s":2964,"end_s":2965,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},452,"194654","Very interesting.",2438.16,2439.3,{"idx":2967,"utterance_id":2968,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2969,"start_s":2970,"end_s":2971,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},453,"194655","Villela, what is most strategic for human beings — I think we cannot do without air.",2440.62,2453.1,{"idx":2973,"utterance_id":2974,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":121,"start_s":2975,"end_s":2976,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},454,"194656",2453.56,2453.68,{"idx":2978,"utterance_id":2979,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2980,"start_s":2981,"end_s":2982,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},455,"194657","In ten minutes we would die without 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worry about it — as far as I know, no country in the world yet charges for air.",2464.86,2471.26,{"idx":3014,"utterance_id":3015,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3016,"start_s":3017,"end_s":3018,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":3019,"topic_label":3020,"target_id":3021,"target_proposition":3022,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":3023,"indexable":74},461,"194663","Water is becoming scarcer.",2472.72,2475.26,"recursos-hidricos-e-energia","Water Resources and Energy","22bacb7e-9544-4cf6-b359-5e75781c796b","conserve and ensure availability of drinking water","States that water is becoming scarcer (problem description).",{"idx":3025,"utterance_id":3026,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3027,"start_s":3028,"end_s":3029,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},462,"194664","but we still have it in quantity.",2475.52,2477.36,{"idx":3031,"utterance_id":3032,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3033,"start_s":3034,"end_s":3035,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},463,"194665","Brazil is a country, in this case, very blessed.",2477.42,2480.7,{"idx":3037,"utterance_id":3038,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3039,"start_s":3040,"end_s":3041,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":3042,"topic_label":3043,"target_id":3044,"target_proposition":3045,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":3046,"indexable":702},464,"194666","And in Brazil we have perhaps the most successful case in the history of humanity in food production, especially in the last 40, 50 years.",2481.92,2494.34,"agricultura-e-agronegocio","Agriculture & Agribusiness","b37e5468-3752-43af-8127-39a2b1c263a6","support and accelerate agribusiness development","Reports historical success of food production in Brazil (description).",{"idx":3048,"utterance_id":3049,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3050,"start_s":3051,"end_s":3052,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":3053,"topic_label":3054,"target_id":3055,"target_proposition":3056,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3057,"indexable":702},465,"194667","We must remember that there was research funded by the State, which is extremely important.",2495.8,2501.64,"pesquisa-cientifica-metodo-cientifico","Scientific Research","2e140ddb-90b3-4245-8d67-473b13a4db34","finance research with public funds","Explicitly defends state-funded research as extremely important.",{"idx":3059,"utterance_id":3060,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3061,"start_s":3062,"end_s":3063,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":3053,"topic_label":3054,"target_id":3055,"target_proposition":3056,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":3064,"indexable":74},466,"194668","Research is extremely important.",2502.26,2504.56,"Reaffirms that 'a pesquisa é importantíssima' (explicit support).",{"idx":3066,"utterance_id":3067,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3068,"start_s":3069,"end_s":3070,"word_count":54,"topic_slug":3071,"topic_label":3072,"target_id":3073,"target_proposition":3074,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":3075,"rationale":3076,"indexable":702},467,"194669","We have federal universities that, in my opinion, should focus much more on practical applied research than, at times, on other things that do not bring benefit to society.",2504.7,2519.18,"politica-de-ensino-superior","Higher education policy","ac035e61-e1ac-48f8-9907-5b827b591819","prioritize applied research at federal universities",0.92,"Says federal universities should focus more on practical, applied research.",{"idx":3078,"utterance_id":3079,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3080,"start_s":3081,"end_s":3082,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},468,"194670","And the case of agribusiness is crystal clear.",2519.62,2521.62,{"idx":3084,"utterance_id":3085,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3086,"start_s":3087,"end_s":3088,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},469,"194671","And we do not have Alimentobras in Brazil.",2522.48,2526.02,{"idx":3090,"utterance_id":3091,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3092,"start_s":3093,"end_s":3094,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},470,"194672","We have Petrobras.",2527.06,2528.48,{"idx":3096,"utterance_id":3097,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3098,"start_s":3099,"end_s":3100,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},471,"194673","We have Eletrobras, but we don't have Alimentobras.",2529.08,2532.78,{"idx":3102,"utterance_id":3103,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3104,"start_s":3105,"end_s":3106,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":3042,"topic_label":3043,"target_id":3107,"target_proposition":3108,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":3109,"indexable":74},472,"194674","Brazil's success in agribusiness was made by private initiative.",2533.5,2540.52,"cbfb2bae-1220-4454-860c-7454e46f5866","value private initiative in agricultural production","Attributes agribusiness success to the private sector, supporting its role.",{"idx":3111,"utterance_id":3112,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3113,"start_s":3114,"end_s":3115,"word_count":54,"indexable":74},473,"194675","Thousands, or perhaps even millions of producers of all sizes — small, medium, large — produce soybeans, produce milk, produce artisanal Minas cheese, which I love and also recommend.",2541.64,2558.44,{"idx":3117,"utterance_id":3118,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3119,"start_s":3120,"end_s":3121,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},474,"194676","And my view is that state-owned companies — I've been on both sides of the counter.",2559.82,2566.46,{"idx":3123,"utterance_id":3124,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3125,"start_s":3126,"end_s":3127,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},475,"194677","I was in the private sector and then jumped to the other side.",2566.72,2570.22,{"idx":3129,"utterance_id":3130,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3131,"start_s":3132,"end_s":3133,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":3134,"topic_label":3135,"target_id":3136,"target_proposition":3137,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":3138,"indexable":74},476,"194678","State-owned companies are used for political maneuvering.",2570.74,2576.28,"empresas-estatais","State-owned companies","4919226e-2481-483c-8f6a-036b9996d9c3","avoid political appointments to state-owned company leadership","States that state companies are used for politicking (explicit criticism).",{"idx":3140,"utterance_id":3141,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3142,"start_s":3143,"end_s":3144,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},477,"194679","I already mentioned this here today, when I arrived.",2577.32,2580.28,{"idx":3146,"utterance_id":3147,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3148,"start_s":3149,"end_s":3150,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},478,"194680","Who was involved with Banco Master?",2580.98,2583.66,{"idx":3152,"utterance_id":3153,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3154,"start_s":3155,"end_s":3156,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},479,"194681","BRB, which is a state bank.",2586.46,2589,{"idx":3158,"utterance_id":3159,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3160,"start_s":3161,"end_s":3162,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},480,"194682","And state pension funds.",2589.66,2592.28,{"idx":3164,"utterance_id":3165,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3166,"start_s":3167,"end_s":3168,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},481,"194683","There wasn't a private bank that put money into Master, nor a private pension fund.",2592.96,2599.68,{"idx":3170,"utterance_id":3171,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3172,"start_s":3173,"end_s":3174,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":31,"target_id":3175,"target_proposition":3176,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3177,"indexable":702},482,"194684","But the bought politicians — that's the problem.",2600.16,2603.74,"bf6f5e9f-1762-4a23-b6e6-33d98a2e832d","combat corruption in state-owned companies","Identifies 'políticos comprados' as a problem in state companies (supports combating it).",{"idx":3179,"utterance_id":3180,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3181,"start_s":3182,"end_s":3183,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":31,"target_id":3175,"target_proposition":3176,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3184,"indexable":702},483,"194685","Bought politicians use state-owned companies for their shady deals.",2604.34,2609.74,"Says politicians use state companies for shady deals (criticism and implicit call for action).",{"idx":3186,"utterance_id":3187,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3188,"start_s":3189,"end_s":3190,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":31,"target_id":3191,"target_proposition":3192,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":3193,"indexable":702},484,"194686","Everyone here will remember mensalão, petrolão, suitcases of money.",2610.22,2615.78,"0a0708c1-47c0-4514-a803-87b94b857b08","investigate and punish corruption schemes using bank evidence","Lists mensalão, petrolão and others as reminders of scandals (description).",{"idx":3195,"utterance_id":3196,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3197,"start_s":3198,"end_s":3199,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},485,"194687","of the big construction companies,",2616.36,2618.54,{"idx":3201,"utterance_id":3202,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2381,"start_s":3203,"end_s":3204,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},486,"194688",2618.82,2619.08,{"idx":3206,"utterance_id":3207,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3208,"start_s":3209,"end_s":3210,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},487,"194689","Correios, by the way, INSS — now with cuts affecting the elderly — Correios has already been involved as well.",2619.86,2627.26,{"idx":3212,"utterance_id":3213,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3214,"start_s":3215,"end_s":3216,"word_count":190,"topic_slug":3217,"topic_label":3218,"target_id":3219,"target_proposition":3220,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3221,"indexable":702},488,"194690","So, what I want is that the State — we must remember — the State already has a huge mission.",2627.9,2634.54,"papel-do-estado","Role of the State","34ae42df-b33c-491b-bf0e-3004208eedb5","reduce the State's business activity and focus on providing essential public services","Argues the State already has a huge mission and should focus on essential services.",{"idx":3223,"utterance_id":3224,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3225,"start_s":3226,"end_s":3227,"word_count":212,"topic_slug":3217,"topic_label":3218,"target_id":3219,"target_proposition":3220,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":3228,"indexable":702},489,"194691","in the area of public security, in health, in education, in infrastructure, and the State is still going to be administering companies.",2635.2,2646.58,"Lists essential areas the State should prioritize instead of running companies.",{"idx":3230,"utterance_id":3231,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3232,"start_s":3233,"end_s":3234,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},490,"194692","I say that I don't know anyone who studied engineering, medicine and law and practices all three professions well.",2647.18,2655.62,{"idx":3236,"utterance_id":3237,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3238,"start_s":3239,"end_s":3240,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},491,"194693","I don't know anyone, no.",2655.7,2656.54,{"idx":3242,"utterance_id":3243,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3244,"start_s":3245,"end_s":3246,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":3217,"topic_label":3218,"target_id":3219,"target_proposition":3220,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":3247,"indexable":702},492,"194694","The Brazilian State already has too many things to do.",2657.54,2661.34,"Says the State already has too much to do (supports focusing the state on core tasks).",{"idx":3249,"utterance_id":3250,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3251,"start_s":3252,"end_s":3253,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":3254,"target_proposition":3255,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3256,"indexable":702},493,"194695","I say I will do education, public security, health and infrastructure well.",2661.98,2668.54,"4beb1792-c971-4c03-8d4d-d96365920269","improve management of essential public services (education, health, security and infrastructure)","Promises to do well on education, security, health and infrastructure (explicit commitment).",{"idx":3258,"utterance_id":3259,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3260,"start_s":3261,"end_s":3262,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3263,"indexable":702},494,"194696","And the private sector runs companies much better.",2669.26,2673.66,"states that the private sector runs companies much better (support for privatization).",{"idx":3265,"utterance_id":3266,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3267,"start_s":3268,"end_s":3269,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},495,"194697","And federal companies are undervalued.",2673.68,2678.14,{"idx":3271,"utterance_id":3272,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3273,"start_s":3274,"end_s":3275,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":3134,"topic_label":3135,"target_id":3276,"target_proposition":3277,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":3278,"indexable":702},496,"194698","As governor of Minas, I brought qualified people to run the energy company, Semig, and the sanitation company, Copasa.",2679,2689.86,"af42cc3e-942c-4a37-82d1-1d23257c6e29","ensure technical independence of state-owned companies by avoiding political appointments","claims to have brought skilled people to run state companies (own action).",{"idx":3280,"utterance_id":3281,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3282,"start_s":3283,"end_s":3284,"word_count":103,"topic_slug":3134,"topic_label":3135,"target_id":3276,"target_proposition":3277,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":2204,"rationale":3285,"indexable":74},497,"194699","Both increased in value by more than 300%.",2690.24,2694.12,"reports increased valuation of companies under their management (claim of results).",{"idx":3287,"utterance_id":3288,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3289,"start_s":3290,"end_s":3291,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":3292,"indexable":74},498,"194700","And it's possible to do the same.",2695.26,2697.04,"says the same results achieved in Minas can be replicated elsewhere (support for privatization\u002Fmanagement).",{"idx":3294,"utterance_id":3295,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3296,"start_s":3297,"end_s":3298,"word_count":284,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":3075,"rationale":3299,"indexable":702},499,"194701","And when we take what Petrobras is worth, what Banco do Brasil is worth, what Correios is worth, and invest in infrastructure — railways, waterways, ports, airports — how much will this country grow?",2697.46,2717.32,"proposes taking proceeds from selling state-owned companies as a source of funds (explicit suggestion).",{"idx":3301,"utterance_id":3302,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3303,"start_s":3304,"end_s":3305,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},500,"194702","It would be much more than it is currently growing.",2717.96,2720.36,{"idx":3307,"utterance_id":3308,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3309,"start_s":3310,"end_s":3311,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},501,"194703","By the way, Brazil has been falling behind.",2720.4,2722.22,{"idx":3313,"utterance_id":3314,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3315,"start_s":3316,"end_s":3317,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},502,"194704","When I started my company there, Brazil represented 4% of the world's economy.",2724.36,2731.54,{"idx":3319,"utterance_id":3320,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3321,"start_s":3322,"end_s":3323,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},503,"194705","Today it represents 2%.",2731.7,2732.82,{"idx":3325,"utterance_id":3326,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3327,"start_s":3328,"end_s":3329,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},504,"194706","Soon it will represent 1%.",2733.48,2735.18,{"idx":3331,"utterance_id":3332,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3333,"start_s":3334,"end_s":3335,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},505,"194707","Is this model of ours working?",2735.8,2738.3,{"idx":3337,"utterance_id":3338,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3339,"start_s":3340,"end_s":3341,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},506,"194708","The companies that politicians say are strategic are.",2738.86,2743.44,{"idx":3343,"utterance_id":3344,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3345,"start_s":3346,"end_s":3347,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},507,"194709","They just don't say that it's for them, to give jobs.",2743.56,2746.88,{"idx":3349,"utterance_id":3350,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3351,"start_s":3352,"end_s":3353,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},508,"194710","to carry out corruption, to distribute favors.",2747.34,2750.74,{"idx":3355,"utterance_id":3356,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3357,"start_s":3358,"end_s":3359,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},509,"194711","I saw this as governor of Minas at the state's electric power company.",2751.28,2757.08,{"idx":3361,"utterance_id":3362,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3363,"start_s":3364,"end_s":3365,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},510,"194712","Until I took office, one could only manage to build a photovoltaic plant in Minas.",2757.7,2763.52,{"idx":3367,"utterance_id":3368,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3369,"start_s":3370,"end_s":3371,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},511,"194713","Those who were friends of the king, who had political contacts.",2763.96,2768.32,{"idx":3373,"utterance_id":3374,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3375,"start_s":3376,"end_s":3377,"word_count":190,"indexable":74},512,"194714","It's a very profitable business and those who managed, Vilela, instead of making the investment, went out into the market selling authorizations.",2768.86,2780.14,{"idx":3379,"utterance_id":3380,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3381,"start_s":3382,"end_s":3383,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},513,"194715","Is this the way this country has to function?",2782.04,2784.34,{"idx":3385,"utterance_id":3386,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3387,"start_s":3388,"end_s":3389,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},514,"194716","When I arrived I said, I want a map of Minas with all the connection points for anyone who wants to invest here.",2785.08,2794.24,{"idx":3391,"utterance_id":3392,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3393,"start_s":3394,"end_s":3395,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},515,"194717","What happened?",2794.54,2795.52,{"idx":3397,"utterance_id":3398,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3399,"start_s":3400,"end_s":3401,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":3402,"topic_label":3403,"target_id":3404,"target_proposition":3405,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":3406,"indexable":702},516,"194718","There were, in photovoltaic energy for Minas Gerais alone, more than 80 billion reais of investments.",2796.1,2804.18,"matriz-energetica","Energy Mix","cf49c46a-7dac-468f-a968-6f2f7cc25f8e","attract investments in photovoltaic energy","cites R$80 billion in photovoltaic investments in Minas (policy defense).",{"idx":3408,"utterance_id":3409,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3410,"start_s":3411,"end_s":3412,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},517,"194719","Thousands of jobs.",2804.78,2806.96,{"idx":3414,"utterance_id":3415,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3416,"start_s":3417,"end_s":3418,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},518,"194720","And today, Minas is by far the leader in this type of energy in Brazil.",2807.28,2815.06,{"idx":3420,"utterance_id":3421,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3422,"start_s":3423,"end_s":3424,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},519,"194721","And the side effect of this?",2815.56,2817.34,{"idx":3426,"utterance_id":3427,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3428,"start_s":3429,"end_s":3430,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},520,"194722","Recovery of the reservoir levels at Três Marias, Furnas, and Nova Ponte, which had been very low.",2817.84,2826.34,{"idx":3432,"utterance_id":3433,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3434,"start_s":3435,"end_s":3436,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":31,"target_id":3175,"target_proposition":3176,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":3437,"indexable":702},521,"194723","So I say that a state-owned company serves very well.",2827.12,2831.32,"claims that state-owned companies allow corrupt politicians to run schemes (explicit criticism).",{"idx":3439,"utterance_id":3440,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3441,"start_s":3442,"end_s":3443,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},522,"194724","for sold politicians to carry out their schemes.",2831.86,2835.9,{"idx":3445,"utterance_id":3446,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3447,"start_s":3448,"end_s":3449,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":3134,"topic_label":3135,"target_id":3450,"target_proposition":3451,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":3452,"indexable":702},523,"194725","And what we need are well-managed companies.",2836.32,2839.6,"12f81f74-4fc7-4bd7-a469-b19bdcaf15e3","improve management incentives in state-owned companies","declares the need for well-managed companies (appeal to management).",{"idx":3454,"utterance_id":3455,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3456,"start_s":3457,"end_s":3458,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},524,"194726","And finishing here, Vilela, remembering that state-owned companies are rigid.",2840.14,2843.46,{"idx":3460,"utterance_id":3461,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3462,"start_s":3463,"end_s":3464,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":3465,"indexable":74},525,"194727","Copasa, which is the sanitation company, was privatized.",2844.54,2847.66,"reports that Copasa was privatized (statement of fact).",{"idx":3467,"utterance_id":3468,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3469,"start_s":3470,"end_s":3471,"word_count":143,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":3472,"indexable":702},526,"194728","Before it was privatized, to carry out a project it would take two years.",2848.02,2852.92,"compares timelines before and after privatization, arguing in favor of the measure.",{"idx":3474,"utterance_id":3475,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3476,"start_s":3477,"end_s":3478,"word_count":103,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":3479,"indexable":74},527,"194729","Now it's done in six months.",2853.1,2854.56,"says projects now finish in six months, supporting the efficiency of privatization.",{"idx":3481,"utterance_id":3482,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3483,"start_s":3484,"end_s":3485,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},528,"194730","Because you hire someone you already know, who you know has quality, a price, and will deliver on time.",2855.3,2862.42,{"idx":3487,"utterance_id":3488,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3489,"start_s":3490,"end_s":3491,"word_count":190,"indexable":74},529,"194731","Before you held a bidding process, the runner-up would go to court, 'no, the first can't because of this, because of that.'",2862.48,2870.5,{"idx":3493,"utterance_id":3494,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3495,"start_s":3496,"end_s":3497,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":3498,"indexable":702},530,"194732","So I say that Brazil is throwing away an opportunity to develop, having capital that is scarce tied up in state-owned companies.",2870.92,2882.06,"says Brazil loses opportunities by keeping capital in state-owned companies (support for selling them).",{"idx":3500,"utterance_id":3501,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3502,"start_s":3503,"end_s":3504,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},531,"194733","The government... does not have resources to invest in infrastructure.",2882.22,2886.16,{"idx":3506,"utterance_id":3507,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3508,"start_s":3509,"end_s":3510,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},532,"194734","And what Brazilians want is improvements in hospitals, health clinics, and roads.",2886.44,2892.1,{"idx":3512,"utterance_id":3513,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3514,"start_s":3515,"end_s":3516,"word_count":143,"topic_slug":3517,"topic_label":3518,"target_id":3519,"target_proposition":3520,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3521,"indexable":702},533,"194735","And that's what I will do with the money from the state-owned companies.",2892.46,2894.64,"infraestrutura-e-saneamento","Infrastructure and Sanitation","9c7ddac2-c299-4183-9f99-6988ef38024b","use privatization proceeds to invest in infrastructure","says they will use state-owned companies' funds to improve roads and airports.",{"idx":3523,"utterance_id":3524,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3525,"start_s":3526,"end_s":3527,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},534,"194736","Has anyone here ever received dividends from Petrobras?",2894.7,2897.62,{"idx":3529,"utterance_id":3530,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3531,"start_s":3532,"end_s":3533,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},535,"194737","I'm sure they never have.",2897.94,2899.56,{"idx":3535,"utterance_id":3536,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3537,"start_s":3538,"end_s":3539,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},536,"194738","I never have.",2899.64,2900.4,{"idx":3541,"utterance_id":3542,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3543,"start_s":3544,"end_s":3545,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":3517,"topic_label":3518,"target_id":3546,"target_proposition":3547,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3548,"indexable":702},537,"194739","But I want good roads, good airports, waterways for our products, railways.",2900.72,2906.28,"140c0c83-708e-4357-b634-43aff01515f8","invest in infrastructure, with emphasis on railways","lists an explicit desire for better roads, airports, waterways, and railways.",{"idx":3550,"utterance_id":3551,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3552,"start_s":3553,"end_s":3554,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},538,"194740","That's right.",2907.18,2907.76,{"idx":3556,"utterance_id":3557,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3558,"start_s":3559,"end_s":3560,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},539,"194741","Let's now go to health with Muzi.",2908.36,2911.84,{"idx":3562,"utterance_id":3563,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3564,"start_s":3565,"end_s":3566,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},540,"194742","Is he ready there?",2912.56,2913.7,{"idx":3568,"utterance_id":3569,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2421,"start_s":3570,"end_s":3571,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},541,"194743",2913.86,2914.48,{"idx":3573,"utterance_id":3574,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3575,"start_s":3576,"end_s":3577,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},542,"194744","Candidate, good evening.",2925.4,2926.2,{"idx":3579,"utterance_id":3580,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3581,"start_s":3582,"end_s":3583,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},543,"194745","My name is Paulo Muzi.",2926.24,2926.98,{"idx":3585,"utterance_id":3586,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3587,"start_s":3588,"end_s":3589,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},544,"194746","I am an orthopedic surgeon, traumatologist.",2927.18,2929.04,{"idx":3591,"utterance_id":3592,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3593,"start_s":3594,"end_s":3595,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},545,"194747","I am also a sports physician, medical corps of the State of São Paulo.",2929.1,2932.36,{"idx":3597,"utterance_id":3598,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3599,"start_s":3600,"end_s":3601,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},546,"194748","And my question to you, sir, is about Brazilian healthcare, from entry into medical school to care for the public.",2932.42,2938.14,{"idx":3603,"utterance_id":3604,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3605,"start_s":3606,"end_s":3607,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},547,"194749","I attended a federal medical school.",2938.52,2940,{"idx":3609,"utterance_id":3610,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3611,"start_s":3612,"end_s":3613,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},548,"194750","I worked in the SUS for 12 years.",2940.58,2942.38,{"idx":3615,"utterance_id":3616,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3617,"start_s":3618,"end_s":3619,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},549,"194751","And this topic is very dear to me.",2942.68,2945.02,{"idx":3621,"utterance_id":3622,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3623,"start_s":3624,"end_s":3625,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},550,"194752","First of all, admission to medical school.",2945.04,2947.28,{"idx":3627,"utterance_id":3628,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3629,"start_s":3630,"end_s":3631,"word_count":284,"indexable":74},551,"194753","A series of measures have caused a large division in the population and society, making it practically impossible for someone from the middle class like me to get into public medical school today.",2947.54,2961.28,{"idx":3633,"utterance_id":3634,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3635,"start_s":3636,"end_s":3637,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},552,"194754","Will you look at this more closely now, sir?",2961.4,2963.66,{"idx":3639,"utterance_id":3640,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3641,"start_s":3642,"end_s":3643,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},553,"194755","Second, about medical training.",2964.18,2966.32,{"idx":3645,"utterance_id":3646,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3647,"start_s":3648,"end_s":3649,"word_count":32,"indexable":74},554,"194756","Although there is a lack of places in public, free, and high-quality medical schools for everyone, we see a lot of medical schools being opened out there without... the proper social justifications.",2966.74,2978.6,{"idx":3651,"utterance_id":3652,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3653,"start_s":3654,"end_s":3655,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},555,"194757","Considering that we have more medical schools than China itself, which has a population vastly larger than ours.",2979,2984.26,{"idx":3657,"utterance_id":3658,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3659,"start_s":3660,"end_s":3661,"word_count":409,"indexable":74},556,"194758","And this becomes a problem not because of the number of medical schools, but because most of these medical schools arrive for students without having a teaching hospital, without a coordinated service so that students have access to a good education, which is practically a machine to charge students and deceive them.",2985.34,3003.08,{"idx":3663,"utterance_id":3664,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3665,"start_s":3666,"end_s":3667,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},557,"194759","This makes me very worried.",3003.62,3005.74,{"idx":3669,"utterance_id":3670,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3671,"start_s":3672,"end_s":3673,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},558,"194760","Thirdly, these thousands of students have to practice medicine, the practice that produces better doctors.",3006.14,3014.5,{"idx":3675,"utterance_id":3676,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3677,"start_s":3678,"end_s":3679,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},559,"194761","That happens in specialization, in residency.",3014.86,3017.38,{"idx":3681,"utterance_id":3682,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3683,"start_s":3684,"end_s":3685,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},560,"194762","But in my time there were already few residency positions; we're talking about 2004, when I graduated.",3017.86,3021.98,{"idx":3687,"utterance_id":3688,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3689,"start_s":3690,"end_s":3691,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},561,"194763","I served in the army, and then I went into residency, and at that time we took an exam in which from my class there were 22 doctors for 3 spots.",3022.46,3031.1,{"idx":3693,"utterance_id":3694,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3695,"start_s":3696,"end_s":3697,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},562,"194764","This did not improve over time.",3032.66,3033.76,{"idx":3699,"utterance_id":3700,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3701,"start_s":3702,"end_s":3703,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},563,"194765","It got worse.",3034.1,3034.76,{"idx":3705,"utterance_id":3706,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3707,"start_s":3708,"end_s":3709,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},564,"194766","And I want to know if you will look into that as well, sir?",3035.78,3037.7,{"idx":3711,"utterance_id":3712,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3713,"start_s":3714,"end_s":3715,"word_count":547,"topic_slug":3716,"topic_label":3717,"target_id":3718,"target_proposition":3719,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":3720,"indexable":702},565,"194767","And finally, if we're talking about medical practice, will you return and stop letting politics interfere in medicine and actually hand over what is medical responsibility, the medical profession, and medical education to the regional councils and to the Federal Council of Medicine, who are the people who not only have the capacity to manage medical careers, but to train better doctors and oversee medical practice in the country?",3037.92,3064.86,"regulamentacao-profissional","Professional Regulation","c3aeb4f8-a0fc-421e-9788-cc0bf4c8dc7e","transfer regulation and management of medical training to professional councils (Regional Councils and CFM)","asks to 'devolver' education and medical responsibility to the councils (explicit request).",{"idx":3722,"utterance_id":3723,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3724,"start_s":3725,"end_s":3726,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},566,"194768","I had been calling him Muzi my whole life and was going to find out today that it's Muzi.",3069.16,3072.84,{"idx":3728,"utterance_id":3729,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3730,"start_s":3731,"end_s":3732,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},567,"194769","I found out too.",3073.16,3073.8,{"idx":3734,"utterance_id":3735,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3736,"start_s":3737,"end_s":3738,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},568,"194770","Because he never told us that.",3074.88,3075.92,{"idx":3740,"utterance_id":3741,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3742,"start_s":3743,"end_s":3744,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},569,"194771","He said Muzi, Muzi and it was Muzi.",3076.5,3077.96,{"idx":3746,"utterance_id":3747,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3748,"start_s":3749,"end_s":3750,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},570,"194772","Let's hear the answer then.",3078.8,3079.74,{"idx":3752,"utterance_id":3753,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3754,"start_s":3755,"end_s":3756,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":3716,"topic_label":3717,"target_id":3718,"target_proposition":3719,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":3757,"indexable":74},571,"194773","His position is very good.",3080.48,3082.86,"declares that the questioner's position is very good (explicit approval).",{"idx":3759,"utterance_id":3760,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3761,"start_s":3762,"end_s":3763,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":3716,"topic_label":3717,"target_id":3764,"target_proposition":3765,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3766,"indexable":702},572,"194774","First, Vilela, politics and health, medicine should never mix.",3084.24,3091.96,"3b7da390-78bf-4112-ad56-8fd7244d82b4","transfer regulation and management of medical training and practice to professional councils","states that politics and health should not mix (support for councils' autonomy).",{"idx":3768,"utterance_id":3769,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3770,"start_s":3771,"end_s":3772,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},573,"194775","I get very upset when someone who is a politician and not from the health field starts to give opinions, advice, or direction.",3094,3106.6,{"idx":3774,"utterance_id":3775,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3776,"start_s":3777,"end_s":3778,"word_count":307,"indexable":74},574,"194776","Even among health professionals there are sometimes disagreements—those who studied their whole lives, who built a career in the field—and often populists use the health area to say, \"vaccinate, don't vaccinate, do this, do that.\"",3107.72,3124.02,{"idx":3780,"utterance_id":3781,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3782,"start_s":3783,"end_s":3784,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":3785,"target_proposition":3786,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3787,"indexable":702},575,"194777","I'm not from the health area; I like to have a great secretary and I will have a great health minister to do whatever is best.",3124.58,3135.02,"357f040a-c5ad-4207-bb61-15dcbc4cef7b","hold selection processes to appoint secretaries and public managers","says they will have a great health secretary and minister (explicit commitment).",{"idx":3789,"utterance_id":3790,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3791,"start_s":3792,"end_s":3793,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},576,"194778","And Brazil needs to make progress in health.",3135.04,3139.86,{"idx":3795,"utterance_id":3796,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3797,"start_s":3798,"end_s":3799,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},577,"194779","He mentioned a series of problems here.",3140.42,3142.42,{"idx":3801,"utterance_id":3802,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3803,"start_s":3804,"end_s":3805,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},578,"194780","Look, a medical student wanting to do a residency, work, specialize, could be seeing patients, could be assisting doctors and be idle there.",3142.54,3157.58,{"idx":3807,"utterance_id":3808,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3809,"start_s":3810,"end_s":3811,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},579,"194781","And people waiting in line for operations and consultations.",3157.88,3160.34,{"idx":3813,"utterance_id":3814,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3815,"start_s":3816,"end_s":3817,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},580,"194782","You see Brazil's inefficiency.",3161.32,3164.16,{"idx":3819,"utterance_id":3820,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3821,"start_s":3822,"end_s":3823,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},581,"194783","A student wanting—\"I want to practice\"—and can't.",3164.78,3168.6,{"idx":3825,"utterance_id":3826,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3827,"start_s":3828,"end_s":3829,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},582,"194784","And there are people in line to get an exam, a consultation, an operation.",3169.04,3174.08,{"idx":3831,"utterance_id":3832,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3833,"start_s":3834,"end_s":3835,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},583,"194785","He spoke about admissions to schools first.",3174.9,3177.3,{"idx":3837,"utterance_id":3838,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3839,"start_s":3840,"end_s":3841,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":3842,"topic_label":3843,"target_id":3844,"target_proposition":3845,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":3075,"rationale":3846,"indexable":74},584,"194786","I am in favor of social quotas.",3178.06,3181.56,"educacao-e-acesso-a-universidade","Education and University Access","94523cfb-9f05-437a-bafc-236b6aa4d1b8","adopt quotas for students from public schools in university admissions","declares support for social quotas, specifying they should target those from public schools.",{"idx":3848,"utterance_id":3849,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3850,"start_s":3851,"end_s":3852,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":3842,"topic_label":3843,"target_id":3844,"target_proposition":3845,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3853,"indexable":702},585,"194787","I think there should be quotas, but for those who come from public schools.",3182.04,3186.74,"reaffirms that quotas should prioritize those who studied in public schools.",{"idx":3855,"utterance_id":3856,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3857,"start_s":3858,"end_s":3859,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},586,"194788","In Brazil we've created quotas in every possible way.",3187.34,3190.14,{"idx":3861,"utterance_id":3862,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3863,"start_s":3864,"end_s":3865,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},587,"194789","Except, I think it's important to say, those who come from humbler families with lower income—those need it.",3190.58,3198.2,{"idx":3867,"utterance_id":3868,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3869,"start_s":3870,"end_s":3871,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":3842,"topic_label":3843,"target_id":3872,"target_proposition":3873,"stance":1302,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":3874,"indexable":702},588,"194790","They created categories here for transgender people, for I don't know what else, for indigenous people, quotas, right?",3198.72,3207.86,"40ca993a-5662-4a1c-95d4-a7e7e30521af","maintain and strengthen programs such as ProUni, Fies and racial quota policies","criticizes quotas for transsexuals, indigenous people, and identity categories (explicit opposition).",{"idx":3876,"utterance_id":3877,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3878,"start_s":3879,"end_s":3880,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":3842,"topic_label":3843,"target_id":3872,"target_proposition":3873,"stance":1302,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":3881,"indexable":702},589,"194791","So I am the opposite; we have to correct that.",3208.38,3210.96,"states 'sou o contrário' and proposes to fix the current model (clear opposition).",{"idx":3883,"utterance_id":3884,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3885,"start_s":3886,"end_s":3887,"word_count":26,"topic_slug":3842,"topic_label":3843,"target_id":3844,"target_proposition":3845,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3888,"indexable":702},590,"194792","Quotas are needed for those who come from situations that are not as good as a family that can afford private schooling.",3211.42,3220.02,"says quotas should be for those from socioeconomically disadvantaged backgrounds.",{"idx":3890,"utterance_id":3891,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3892,"start_s":3893,"end_s":3894,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},591,"194793","Schools, as he said, have increased a lot.",3222.76,3226.16,{"idx":3896,"utterance_id":3897,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3898,"start_s":3899,"end_s":3900,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},592,"194794","And oftentimes it's the neighborhood college that does not prioritize quality.",3227.1,3233.48,{"idx":3902,"utterance_id":3903,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3904,"start_s":3905,"end_s":3906,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":3716,"topic_label":3717,"target_id":3907,"target_proposition":3908,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":3909,"rationale":3910,"indexable":702},593,"194795","I am in favor—just as there already is for the law field—of us having a proficiency exam.",3234.14,3243.28,"ac39857f-5995-4114-b2a7-400704cd7df9","implement a proficiency exam for doctors",0.93,"says they support a proficiency exam, citing the example of the legal field.",{"idx":3912,"utterance_id":3913,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3914,"start_s":3915,"end_s":3916,"word_count":385,"indexable":74},594,"194796","And in my opinion, those who deal with human life, as is the case of a doctor, Vilela, I don't know if you agree with me, a pilot, every three years, needs to go through a complete check-up, because if he were to feel ill while piloting a plane, he could kill 100, 200 people.",3244.08,3265.06,{"idx":3918,"utterance_id":3919,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3920,"start_s":3921,"end_s":3922,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":3716,"topic_label":3717,"target_id":3923,"target_proposition":3924,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":3925,"indexable":702},595,"194797","In my opinion, a doctor should undergo periodic evaluations as well, to know whether he is up to date on a new substance that cures a disease.",3265.64,3278.14,"2fa22437-85d4-4943-9501-d2da5e1f8ef7","subject doctors to periodic competency evaluations","argues that doctors should undergo periodic evaluations, comparing them to pilots.",{"idx":3927,"utterance_id":3928,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3929,"start_s":3930,"end_s":3931,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},596,"194798","Which sometimes he doesn't study and continues prescribing an old one that sometimes doesn't have the same beneficial effect as something more modern.",3278.16,3287.82,{"idx":3933,"utterance_id":3934,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3935,"start_s":3936,"end_s":3937,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},597,"194799","So, for me, a doctor should be subjected to this scrutiny always.",3288.2,3293.46,{"idx":3939,"utterance_id":3940,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3941,"start_s":3942,"end_s":3943,"word_count":54,"indexable":74},598,"194800","I know that the OAB already does this with lawyers, but I think it's only once; however, in my opinion, for those who deal with life, it should be continuous.",3293.94,3303.14,{"idx":3945,"utterance_id":3946,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3947,"start_s":3948,"end_s":3949,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},599,"194801","Another point, I want... In Brazil, to put an end to those areas that lack healthcare.",3304.84,3312.48,{"idx":3951,"utterance_id":3952,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3953,"start_s":3954,"end_s":3955,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":3956,"target_proposition":3957,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":3958,"indexable":74},600,"194802","I saw this in my state.",3312.8,3314.52,"d4bedcf0-08c0-4b0b-a2fd-ea563c405958","strengthen primary care and early diagnosis in SUS","claims to have built more than 400 UBSs in the state (claim of action).",{"idx":3960,"utterance_id":3961,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3962,"start_s":3963,"end_s":3964,"word_count":54,"indexable":74},601,"194803","I built more than 400 basic health units in a state where people often had to travel two or three hours to get an exam, to have a consultation.",3315.22,3330.68,{"idx":3966,"utterance_id":3967,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3968,"start_s":3969,"end_s":3970,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},602,"194804","This, thank God, is now in the past.",3331.24,3333.9,{"idx":3972,"utterance_id":3973,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3974,"start_s":3975,"end_s":3976,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},603,"194805","We must, in Brazil, greatly value bringing primary care to everyone, which is the health post.",3334.5,3343.78,{"idx":3978,"utterance_id":3979,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3980,"start_s":3981,"end_s":3982,"word_count":101,"indexable":74},604,"194806","It is there that the mother, the expectant mother, can have prenatal care, detect any complication in the pregnancy, if she had to travel hours.",3344.38,3356.06,{"idx":3984,"utterance_id":3985,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3986,"start_s":3987,"end_s":3988,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},605,"194807","She may no longer be willing to do it.",3356.44,3358.8,{"idx":3990,"utterance_id":3991,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3992,"start_s":3993,"end_s":3994,"word_count":325,"indexable":74},606,"194808","It is there, Vilela, that you can detect someone with abnormal insulin levels and already recommend dietary changes so that it doesn't develop into diabetes, which is a very serious problem today that has only been increasing in our population.",3359.36,3378.18,{"idx":3996,"utterance_id":3997,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":3998,"start_s":3999,"end_s":4000,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},607,"194809","It is there that you can detect that a spot on the skin, if operated on now, is easy to treat, instead of turning into a tumor that becomes complex.",3378.78,3389,{"idx":4002,"utterance_id":4003,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4004,"start_s":4005,"end_s":4006,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},608,"194810","So this primary care, which in Brazil has never received due attention, is the main thing.",3389.42,3396.5,{"idx":4008,"utterance_id":4009,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4010,"start_s":4011,"end_s":4012,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},609,"194811","It's having in your neighborhood, having near your home that care which, thank God, I brought to the people of Minas.",3397.08,3407.08,{"idx":4014,"utterance_id":4015,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4016,"start_s":4017,"end_s":4018,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},610,"194812","And I received, Vilela, a large cemetery of abandoned projects.",3407.68,3412.02,{"idx":4020,"utterance_id":4021,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4022,"start_s":4023,"end_s":4024,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":3956,"target_proposition":3957,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":4025,"indexable":702},611,"194813","There were 90 basic health units; we completed them all, five large regional hospitals, the whole SUS.",3412.14,3419.88,"calls for the completion of UBSs and five regional hospitals (track record).",{"idx":4027,"utterance_id":4028,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4029,"start_s":4030,"end_s":4031,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},612,"194814","bringing care to those regions where people did not have that dignity.",3420.54,3427.34,{"idx":4033,"utterance_id":4034,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4035,"start_s":4036,"end_s":4037,"word_count":101,"indexable":74},613,"194815","And to close this question, Vilela, I want to comment here on the case of Mr. Francisco; sometimes there are cases that move us.",3428.04,3438.82,{"idx":4039,"utterance_id":4040,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4041,"start_s":4042,"end_s":4043,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},614,"194816","We have a city in the Jequitinhonha Valley, which I said is the least developed region of the state, called Minas Novas.",3439.68,3448.08,{"idx":4045,"utterance_id":4046,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4047,"start_s":4048,"end_s":4049,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},615,"194817","That's the name of the city.",3448.42,3449.38,{"idx":4051,"utterance_id":4052,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4053,"start_s":4054,"end_s":4055,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},616,"194818","A city of about 15,000–20,000 inhabitants.",3449.42,3452.38,{"idx":4057,"utterance_id":4058,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4059,"start_s":4060,"end_s":4061,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},617,"194819","And I went there to see the hemodialysis unit that we took to Minas Novas.",3453.58,3461.46,{"idx":4063,"utterance_id":4064,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4065,"start_s":4066,"end_s":4067,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},618,"194820","And there I met Mr. Francisco.",3462.28,3464.3,{"idx":4069,"utterance_id":4070,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4071,"start_s":4072,"end_s":4073,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},619,"194821","He saw me there at the hemodialysis unit.",3464.96,3469.06,{"idx":4075,"utterance_id":4076,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4077,"start_s":4078,"end_s":4079,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},620,"194822","He recognized me and said, \"Zema, it's a pleasure to meet you, you don't know how you changed my life.\"",3469.42,3478.12,{"idx":899,"utterance_id":4081,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4082,"start_s":4083,"end_s":4084,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},"194823","And I said, \"What is it, Mr. Francisco?\"",3479.4,3481.08,{"idx":4086,"utterance_id":4087,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4088,"start_s":4089,"end_s":4090,"word_count":272,"indexable":74},622,"194824","He said, \"Before I had to take the city van, be on the road five hours to Diamantina, which was the nearest hemodialysis unit; I would stay there the whole day doing hemodialysis, just waiting.\"",3481.1,3499.66,{"idx":4092,"utterance_id":4093,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4094,"start_s":4095,"end_s":4096,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},623,"194825","for my colleagues to finish and then another five hours back.",3499.92,3504.34,{"idx":4098,"utterance_id":4099,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4100,"start_s":4101,"end_s":4102,"word_count":266,"indexable":74},624,"194826","\"After the hemodialysis unit was put here in my city, in this case Minas Novas, my life changed, because before it was one day on the road and the next day prostrated in bed.\"",3505.1,3519,{"idx":4104,"utterance_id":4105,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4106,"start_s":4107,"end_s":4108,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},625,"194827","Remembering that those who undergo hemodialysis often do not have very good health.",3519.62,3524.76,{"idx":4110,"utterance_id":4111,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4112,"start_s":4113,"end_s":4114,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},626,"194828","Due to the treatment itself, the body becomes weakened.",3525.5,3529.24,{"idx":4116,"utterance_id":4117,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4118,"start_s":4119,"end_s":4120,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},627,"194829","\"So he said, now I am living again, I help my son in his shop, I have energy, I've regained the will.\"",3529.6,3538.72,{"idx":4122,"utterance_id":4123,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4124,"start_s":4125,"end_s":4126,"word_count":54,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":4127,"target_proposition":4128,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":4129,"indexable":702},628,"194830","So this health care close to every Brazilian's home is what makes all the difference, and this is what we must prioritize in Brazil: more health",3539.12,3550.74,"585cbaa3-8c99-4129-9d76-19eaecf49d76","prioritize primary care and preventive health over curative care","says that local, preventive healthcare should be a priority in the country.",{"idx":4131,"utterance_id":4132,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4133,"start_s":4134,"end_s":4135,"word_count":190,"indexable":74},629,"194831","preventive rather than corrective health; you can avoid many expensive treatments and even cure diseases when they are in their early stages.",3551,3563.62,{"idx":4137,"utterance_id":4138,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4139,"start_s":4140,"end_s":4141,"word_count":54,"indexable":74},630,"194832","Okay, let's call then—we have two journalists at the mic there, Camila Xavier and Gustavo Zucchi, who are from Metrópolis, which by the way is our partner in the debate.",3564.42,3573.44,{"idx":4143,"utterance_id":4144,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4145,"start_s":4146,"end_s":4147,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},631,"194833","and I have to make a criticism here, Zema, you didn't go to the debate, I want to know why?",3573.66,3580.14,{"idx":4149,"utterance_id":4150,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4151,"start_s":4152,"end_s":4153,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},632,"194834","You lost out because those who went to the debate won, right?",3580.8,3583.82,{"idx":4155,"utterance_id":4156,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4157,"start_s":4158,"end_s":4159,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},633,"194835","Cury rose, Renan rose.",3584.58,3587,{"idx":4161,"utterance_id":4162,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4163,"start_s":4164,"end_s":4165,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},634,"194836","Why didn't you go to the debate?",3587.34,3588.8,{"idx":4167,"utterance_id":4168,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4169,"start_s":4170,"end_s":4171,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},635,"194837","I found it odd.",3588.86,3589.36,{"idx":4173,"utterance_id":4174,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4175,"start_s":4176,"end_s":4177,"word_count":190,"indexable":74},636,"194838","I didn't go firstly because the main candidate I would question, Lula, had already said he wouldn't go.",3590.56,3598.9,{"idx":4179,"utterance_id":4180,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4181,"start_s":4182,"end_s":4183,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},637,"194839","And secondly, Vilela, you must have followed, I was the first person interviewed by Globo on Jornal Nacional.",3599.38,3606.58,{"idx":4185,"utterance_id":4186,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4187,"start_s":4188,"end_s":4189,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},638,"194840","On Monday.",3606.92,3607.4,{"idx":4191,"utterance_id":4192,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4187,"start_s":4193,"end_s":4194,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},639,"194841",3607.58,3608.22,{"idx":4196,"utterance_id":4197,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4198,"start_s":4199,"end_s":4200,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},640,"194842","And the debate was on Sunday.",3608.4,3609.8,{"idx":4202,"utterance_id":4203,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4204,"start_s":4205,"end_s":4206,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},641,"194843","So our team said... And they changed the date too, right?",3609.84,3612.58,{"idx":4208,"utterance_id":4209,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4210,"start_s":4211,"end_s":4212,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},642,"194844","Of that debate, right?",3612.92,3613.6,{"idx":4214,"utterance_id":4215,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4216,"start_s":4217,"end_s":4218,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},643,"194845","It was supposed to be one date and then changed to another.",3613.94,3615.62,{"idx":63,"utterance_id":4220,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4221,"start_s":4222,"end_s":4223,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},"194846","There was a... It happened.",3616.48,3617.22,{"idx":4225,"utterance_id":4226,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4227,"start_s":4228,"end_s":4229,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},645,"194847","There was a change.",3617.4,3617.88,{"idx":4231,"utterance_id":4232,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4233,"start_s":4234,"end_s":4235,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},646,"194848","I'm helping you there, Zema, with the explanation.",3617.9,3619.74,{"idx":4237,"utterance_id":4238,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4239,"start_s":4240,"end_s":4241,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},647,"194849","Yes, you're helping me, exactly.",3619.76,3620.9,{"idx":4243,"utterance_id":4244,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4245,"start_s":4246,"end_s":4247,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},648,"194850","But you'll go to our debate.",3620.92,3622.2,{"idx":4249,"utterance_id":4250,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4251,"start_s":4252,"end_s":4253,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},649,"194851","The 18th.",3622.44,3622.58,{"idx":4255,"utterance_id":4256,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4257,"start_s":4258,"end_s":4259,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},650,"194852","You confirmed with us.",3622.72,3624.38,{"idx":4261,"utterance_id":4262,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4263,"start_s":4264,"end_s":4265,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},651,"194853","It's already been confirmed by the team, isn't it?",3624.42,3626.24,{"idx":4267,"utterance_id":4268,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4269,"start_s":4270,"end_s":4271,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},652,"194854","Okay, right?",3627.18,3627.5,{"idx":4273,"utterance_id":4274,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4275,"start_s":4276,"end_s":4277,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},653,"194855","There you go.",3628.06,3628.4,{"idx":4279,"utterance_id":4280,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4281,"start_s":4282,"end_s":4283,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},654,"194856","Look at Fabi's smile.",3628.8,3629.76,{"idx":4285,"utterance_id":4286,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4287,"start_s":4288,"end_s":4289,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},655,"194857","Look at the scare.",3629.78,3630.9,{"idx":4291,"utterance_id":4292,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4293,"start_s":4294,"end_s":4295,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},656,"194858","Look at Fabi's smile now.",3630.92,3632.26,{"idx":4297,"utterance_id":4298,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4299,"start_s":4300,"end_s":4301,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},657,"194859","Now you got scared, right, Fabi?",3632.38,3633.48,{"idx":4303,"utterance_id":4304,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4305,"start_s":4306,"end_s":4307,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},658,"194860","Where will it be, Vilela?",3633.84,3635.16,{"idx":4309,"utterance_id":4310,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4311,"start_s":4312,"end_s":4313,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},659,"194861","It'll be at the G4 space, right?",3635.46,3637.5,{"idx":4315,"utterance_id":4316,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4317,"start_s":4318,"end_s":4319,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},660,"194862","In Vila Olímpia.",3638.28,3639.14,{"idx":4321,"utterance_id":4322,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4323,"start_s":4324,"end_s":4325,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},661,"194863","Ah, in Vila... The G4 there... It's where you were grilled by O Antagonista, if I'm not mistaken.",3639.36,3645.26,{"idx":4327,"utterance_id":4328,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4329,"start_s":4330,"end_s":4331,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},662,"194864","I was there.",3645.34,3646.54,{"idx":4333,"utterance_id":4334,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4335,"start_s":4336,"end_s":4337,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},663,"194865","Ah, you were there that day?",3646.62,3648.3,{"idx":4339,"utterance_id":4340,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4341,"start_s":4342,"end_s":4343,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},664,"194866","I was there watching.",3648.34,3648.96,{"idx":4345,"utterance_id":4346,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4347,"start_s":4348,"end_s":4349,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},665,"194867","I'm 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right?",3680.5,3683.14,{"idx":4435,"utterance_id":4436,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4437,"start_s":4438,"end_s":4439,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},680,"194882","So let's go then.",3683.56,3684.28,{"idx":4441,"utterance_id":4442,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4443,"start_s":4444,"end_s":4445,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},681,"194883","Is everyone in position?",3684.66,3685.44,{"idx":4447,"utterance_id":4448,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4449,"start_s":4450,"end_s":4451,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},682,"194884","Send it.",3686.08,3686.46,{"idx":4453,"utterance_id":4454,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4455,"start_s":4456,"end_s":4457,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},683,"194885","So, thank you very much.",3686.56,3688.16,{"idx":4459,"utterance_id":4460,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4461,"start_s":4462,"end_s":4463,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},684,"194886","Camila Xavier, Gustavo Zucchi, can you hear 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then.",3706.48,3707.34,{"idx":4495,"utterance_id":4496,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4497,"start_s":4498,"end_s":4499,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},690,"194892","I'd like to ask the candidate, good evening.",3707.88,3710.96,{"idx":4501,"utterance_id":4502,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4503,"start_s":4504,"end_s":4505,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},691,"194893","Thank you as well for being here talking with us, clarifying your position.",3711.52,3715.5,{"idx":4507,"utterance_id":4508,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4509,"start_s":4510,"end_s":4511,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":4512,"topic_label":4513,"target_id":4514,"target_proposition":4515,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":3075,"rationale":4516,"indexable":702},692,"194894","On a current topic, the Senate CCJ, the Constitution and Justice Committee, approved today the end of the 6x1 schedule without changes to the text.",3716.78,3727.32,"relacoes-internacionais-trabalho","International 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committee approved the end of the 6x1 schedule in the form of the original text.",3738.1,3745.52,"states the fact: the commission approved the end of the 6x1 schedule.",{"idx":4532,"utterance_id":4533,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4534,"start_s":4535,"end_s":4536,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},695,"194897","I'd like to understand from you what your position is on this decision by the senators.",3745.68,3752.08,{"idx":4538,"utterance_id":4539,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4540,"start_s":4541,"end_s":4542,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":4512,"topic_label":4513,"target_id":4514,"target_proposition":4515,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":4543,"indexable":702},696,"194898","You had been expressing opposition to this model of ending the 6x1 schedule, but today the senators approved this model.",3752.14,3759.58,"reports that the candidate had been expressing opposition to the 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causes millions of Brazilians to migrate to the informal market.",3798.56,3811.54,"states that the absence of this option leads to migration to informal work.",{"idx":4604,"utterance_id":4605,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4606,"start_s":4607,"end_s":4608,"word_count":190,"indexable":74},706,"194908","I come from the retail sector; I was president of a company that has 5,000 direct employees, not counting indirect ones.",3812.64,3821.08,{"idx":4610,"utterance_id":4611,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4612,"start_s":4613,"end_s":4614,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},707,"194909","So I've experienced this my whole life.",3821.74,3824.14,{"idx":4616,"utterance_id":4617,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4618,"start_s":4619,"end_s":4620,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},708,"194910","I'll give you some 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Brazil.",3872,3875.2,"declares 'Eu quero levar isso para o Brasil todo' referring to the program.",{"idx":4653,"utterance_id":4654,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4655,"start_s":4656,"end_s":4657,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":4633,"topic_label":4634,"target_id":4635,"target_proposition":4636,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":4658,"indexable":74},713,"194915","So, first... 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serious, structured companies with good processes generally don't do this.",3894.1,3900.92,{"idx":4679,"utterance_id":4680,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4681,"start_s":4682,"end_s":4683,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},717,"194919","So the young person loses out, society loses out.",3901.18,3905,{"idx":4685,"utterance_id":4686,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4687,"start_s":4688,"end_s":4689,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":4690,"target_proposition":4691,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":2398,"rationale":4692,"indexable":74},718,"194920","That is when the young person is not recruited by criminal organizations and factions that have the most enticing proposals possible.",3905.96,3915.26,"35f79920-c91e-49f3-be68-a47fdfc9791d","prevent recruitment of youth by criminal organizations","associates youth informality with recruitment by criminal 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region.",4049.72,4054.42,{"idx":4798,"utterance_id":4799,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4800,"start_s":4801,"end_s":4802,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},736,"194938","We have people in Belo Horizonte who have been without water for 15 days because of Copasa's problems.",4054.66,4061.04,{"idx":4804,"utterance_id":4805,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4806,"start_s":4807,"end_s":4808,"word_count":244,"indexable":74},737,"194939","We had today a decision by the Tribunal de Justiça de Minas Gerais, forcing Copasa to pay 300 million because of problems in works in the city.",4061.4,4071.1,{"idx":4810,"utterance_id":4811,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4812,"start_s":4813,"end_s":4814,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},738,"194940","We can also cite other examples of privatizations that are not working.",4071.8,4076.86,{"idx":4816,"utterance_id":4817,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4818,"start_s":4819,"end_s":4820,"word_count":319,"indexable":74},739,"194941","For example, in São Paulo, the issue of Enelo, the company that handles electricity in São Paulo, has been criticized for several years for services not being provided to people, with people sometimes going two, three weeks without electricity.",4076.9,4092.88,{"idx":4822,"utterance_id":4823,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4824,"start_s":4825,"end_s":4826,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},740,"194942","How do you convince voters that a privatization of Petrobras, a privatization of the post office, will work better than these privatizations in sanitation and electricity, which many people are complaining about?",4093.14,4105.2,{"idx":4828,"utterance_id":4829,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4830,"start_s":4831,"end_s":4832,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},741,"194943","How can you be sure that Petrobras, that gasoline, won't skyrocket in Brazil?",4105.54,4109.82,{"idx":4834,"utterance_id":4835,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4836,"start_s":4837,"end_s":4838,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},742,"194944","How can you be sure that privatized postal services won't provide a worse service than what happens today?",4110.14,4115.44,{"idx":4840,"utterance_id":4841,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4842,"start_s":4843,"end_s":4844,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},743,"194945","Isn't it easier to improve these services?",4115.72,4118,{"idx":4846,"utterance_id":4847,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4848,"start_s":4849,"end_s":4850,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},744,"194946","Petrobras is a... a company that is considered a Brazilian national asset.",4118.06,4123.24,{"idx":4852,"utterance_id":4853,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4854,"start_s":4855,"end_s":4856,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},745,"194947","And just to add, to ask a second question, which is about the same subject.",4123.62,4126.86,{"idx":4858,"utterance_id":4859,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4860,"start_s":4861,"end_s":4862,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},746,"194948","Privatizations have always been an issue of your government in Minas Gerais, but you faced a lot of resistance in the Legislative Assembly.",4127.48,4135.2,{"idx":4864,"utterance_id":4865,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4866,"start_s":4867,"end_s":4868,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},747,"194949","There were privatizations that you attempted still in the first term and that only managed to move forward in the second term.",4135.42,4141.38,{"idx":4870,"utterance_id":4871,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4872,"start_s":4873,"end_s":4874,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},748,"194950","Here in Brasília, surely, if you become President of the Republic, it will be no different.",4141.42,4146.64,{"idx":55,"utterance_id":4876,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4877,"start_s":4878,"end_s":4879,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},"194951","We know that to... carry out a privatization like that, you will need to make deals with the Centrão.",4146.94,4151.9,{"idx":4881,"utterance_id":4882,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4883,"start_s":4884,"end_s":4885,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},750,"194952","How far are you willing to negotiate with the Centrão so that the privatizations you promise, if you become president, actually come to fruition?",4152.36,4159.4,{"idx":4887,"utterance_id":4888,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4889,"start_s":4890,"end_s":4891,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},751,"194953","Thank you, Gustavo.",4162.06,4163.44,{"idx":4893,"utterance_id":4894,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4895,"start_s":4896,"end_s":4897,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":887,"rationale":4902,"indexable":74},752,"194954","Well, Gustavo, I believe in privatizations.",4164.88,4169.82,"privatizacao-e-concessoes","Privatization & Concessions","0ef069a9-6c61-4827-be39-c9d89552510c","privatize companies and public services","explicitly declares 'eu acredito em privatizações'.",{"idx":4904,"utterance_id":4905,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4906,"start_s":4907,"end_s":4908,"word_count":143,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":4909,"indexable":702},753,"194955","First, Copasa was privatized about 90 or 120 days ago.",4170.58,4177.12,"reports that Copasa was privatized recently.",{"idx":4911,"utterance_id":4912,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4913,"start_s":4914,"end_s":4915,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},754,"194956","So, we can say that Copasa, which is still operating today, is a Copasa that for 99.9% of its existence was a state-owned company.",4177.14,4189.68,{"idx":4917,"utterance_id":4918,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4919,"start_s":4920,"end_s":4921,"word_count":201,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":808,"rationale":4922,"indexable":702},755,"194957","I can say that under my administration all quality indicators improved, but who was, Gustavo, Copasa's controlling shareholder?",4190.9,4203.3,"claims improvements in indicators under his management after privatization.",{"idx":4924,"utterance_id":4925,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4926,"start_s":4927,"end_s":4928,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},756,"194958","A State that didn't even have the resources when I took office to pay the payroll.",4203.54,4210.22,{"idx":4930,"utterance_id":4931,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4932,"start_s":4933,"end_s":4934,"word_count":190,"indexable":74},757,"194959","That State would never have the resources to inject capital into the company that needs to universalize sanitation in the State of Minas.",4210.92,4222.88,{"idx":4936,"utterance_id":4937,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4938,"start_s":4939,"end_s":4940,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},758,"194960","And the new controlling shareholder now has the commitment to carry out that universalization.",4224.04,4232.72,{"idx":4942,"utterance_id":4943,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4944,"start_s":4945,"end_s":4946,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":4947,"indexable":702},759,"194961","The process was carried out with the greatest possible transparency.",4233.6,4238.64,"supports a process carried out with transparency and approval from relevant bodies.",{"idx":4949,"utterance_id":4950,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4951,"start_s":4952,"end_s":4953,"word_count":250,"topic_slug":4954,"topic_label":4955,"target_id":4956,"target_proposition":4957,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":4958,"indexable":702},760,"194962","Approved by the State Court of Auditors, by the deputies who monitored it, and I'm sure that Copasa, now privatized, will make much greater progress on basic sanitation in the State.",4239.18,4257.64,"saneamento","Sanitation","7c32bd92-03d1-4b5f-8965-1315e2404c12","privatize Sabesp","states that a privatized Copasa will advance sanitation.",{"idx":4960,"utterance_id":4961,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4962,"start_s":4963,"end_s":4964,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},761,"194963","And I'll tell you this for a very simple reason, which I just mentioned to Vilela a little while ago.",4258.42,4263.26,{"idx":4966,"utterance_id":4967,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4968,"start_s":4969,"end_s":4970,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":4954,"topic_label":4955,"target_id":4956,"target_proposition":4957,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":4971,"indexable":702},762,"194964","State-owned Copasa... to do a simple project sometimes took two years.",4264.16,4270.16,"compares the slowness of projects under state versus private management.",{"idx":4973,"utterance_id":4974,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4975,"start_s":4976,"end_s":4977,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":808,"rationale":4978,"indexable":702},763,"194965","Copasa, now private, might do it in less than six months.",4271.1,4275.84,"claims a private company will complete works faster than a state-owned one.",{"idx":4980,"utterance_id":4981,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4982,"start_s":4983,"end_s":4984,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},764,"194966","Because a state company, you know, those following us here may not know, has to carry out a public tender, publish a notice, and that's time-consuming.",4276.64,4289.82,{"idx":4986,"utterance_id":4987,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4988,"start_s":4989,"end_s":4990,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},765,"194967","The winner is often challenged because it doesn't meet all the prerequisites.",4290.82,4297.72,{"idx":4992,"utterance_id":4993,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":4994,"start_s":4995,"end_s":4996,"word_count":244,"indexable":74},766,"194968","The runner-up goes to court saying that the first can't because it doesn't meet such-and-such criterion, and what should be a construction project becomes a legal war.",4298.14,4311.94,{"idx":4998,"utterance_id":4999,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5000,"start_s":5001,"end_s":5002,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},767,"194969","And this happens with Petrobras.",4312.92,4315.12,{"idx":5004,"utterance_id":5005,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5006,"start_s":5007,"end_s":5008,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},768,"194970","This still happens with CEMIG; it happens in all state-owned companies in Brazil.",4315.76,4320.34,{"idx":5010,"utterance_id":5011,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5012,"start_s":5013,"end_s":5014,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":5015,"indexable":702},769,"194971","I say that when you have private management, you have that agility that a state company cannot have, also due to compliance and control issues.",4320.62,4332.06,"argues private management brings agility that the state-owned company lacks.",{"idx":5017,"utterance_id":5018,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5019,"start_s":5020,"end_s":5021,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},770,"194972","And we Brazilians are undergoing a transition that hasn't been going on for that long.",4333.32,4338.5,{"idx":5023,"utterance_id":5024,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5025,"start_s":5026,"end_s":5027,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},771,"194973","The mobile phone operators.",4338.84,4341.46,{"idx":5029,"utterance_id":5030,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5031,"start_s":5032,"end_s":5033,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},772,"194974","I don't think anyone misses the time when they were state-owned.",4342.02,4345.08,{"idx":5035,"utterance_id":5036,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5037,"start_s":5038,"end_s":5039,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},773,"194975","Today everyone has access to that service.",4345.7,4349.2,{"idx":5041,"utterance_id":5042,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5043,"start_s":5044,"end_s":5045,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":5046,"topic_label":5047,"target_id":5048,"target_proposition":5049,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":5050,"indexable":702},774,"194976","And what I want is to increase competition.",4349.78,4353.36,"concorrencia-e-oligopolio","Competition and Oligopoly","a9a8b12a-3837-43c6-a788-f94029f15982","increase competition in privatized sectors","declares 'o que eu quero é aumentar a concorrência'.",{"idx":5052,"utterance_id":5053,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5054,"start_s":5055,"end_s":5056,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":5057,"indexable":702},775,"194977","I will not sell Petrobras in a single block.",4353.68,4356.96,"states he will not sell Petrobras as a block, indicating privatization in parts.",{"idx":5059,"utterance_id":5060,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5061,"start_s":5062,"end_s":5063,"word_count":143,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":5064,"indexable":702},776,"194978","I want to split it up, each refinery a separate company, even to increase competition.",4357.58,4364.14,"proposes 'fatiar' Petrobras to sell it by refinery.",{"idx":5066,"utterance_id":5067,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5068,"start_s":5069,"end_s":5070,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":5046,"topic_label":5047,"target_id":5048,"target_proposition":5049,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":836,"rationale":5071,"indexable":74},777,"194979","It's competition that makes prices fall.",4364.64,4368.72,"States that 'concorrência faz o preço cair'.",{"idx":5073,"utterance_id":5074,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5075,"start_s":5076,"end_s":5077,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},778,"194980","And today we have a wasteful federal government.",4369.62,4372.66,{"idx":5079,"utterance_id":5080,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5081,"start_s":5082,"end_s":5083,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},779,"194981","The last thing... what it can do is invest in the state-owned companies.",4373.34,4378.58,{"idx":49,"utterance_id":5085,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5086,"start_s":5087,"end_s":5088,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},"194982","On the contrary, they are bleeding, sending resources to this wasteful 'Gastão' government.",4378.68,4384.68,{"idx":5090,"utterance_id":5091,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5092,"start_s":5093,"end_s":5094,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},781,"194983","Brazilians, whom politicians claim are the owners of these state-owned companies, have never received any benefit.",4385.4,4394.08,{"idx":5096,"utterance_id":5097,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5098,"start_s":5099,"end_s":5100,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},782,"194984","Now, the politicians — they have profited a lot.",4394.78,4398.96,{"idx":5102,"utterance_id":5103,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5104,"start_s":5105,"end_s":5106,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},783,"194985","We had the 'Petrolão'.",4399.48,4400.74,{"idx":5108,"utterance_id":5109,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5110,"start_s":5111,"end_s":5112,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},784,"194986","Now we have the Banco Master.",4401.42,4403.36,{"idx":5114,"utterance_id":5115,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5116,"start_s":5117,"end_s":5118,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},785,"194987","Who made money over there at BRB?",4403.46,4405.42,{"idx":5120,"utterance_id":5121,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5122,"start_s":5123,"end_s":5124,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},786,"194988","It's someone who was an employee of the state bank.",4405.5,4409.28,{"idx":5126,"utterance_id":5127,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5128,"start_s":5129,"end_s":5130,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},787,"194989","Was there any private entity involved with Master?",4409.98,4414.54,{"idx":5132,"utterance_id":5133,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5134,"start_s":5135,"end_s":5136,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},788,"194990","There wasn't.",4415.42,4416.06,{"idx":5138,"utterance_id":5139,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5140,"start_s":5141,"end_s":5142,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},789,"194991","There were, yes, state pension funds and a state bank.",4416.6,4422.82,{"idx":5144,"utterance_id":5145,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5146,"start_s":5147,"end_s":5148,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},790,"194992","Which, with just those funds and the bank, resulted in a loss of around 15 to 18 billion reais, not counting the credit guarantee fund.",4423.28,4434.22,{"idx":5150,"utterance_id":5151,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5152,"start_s":5153,"end_s":5154,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":5155,"indexable":702},791,"194993","And in my administration in Minas, I sold stakes and privatized 118 companies.",4434.82,4443.68,"Claims to have privatized 118 companies during their administration.",{"idx":5157,"utterance_id":5158,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5159,"start_s":5160,"end_s":5161,"word_count":266,"indexable":74},792,"194994","As the government progressed, we sold off the stakes; this year we privatized Copasa and only the energy company was left out, which I'm sure will also be a matter of time.",4444.32,4460.88,{"idx":5163,"utterance_id":5164,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5165,"start_s":5166,"end_s":5167,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":5168,"rationale":5169,"indexable":702},793,"194995","When privatization is well done, the consumer wins, because a private company has much more agility.",4461.26,4471.28,0.84,"Argues that a well-executed privatization benefits the consumer.",{"idx":5171,"utterance_id":5172,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5173,"start_s":5174,"end_s":5175,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},794,"194996","And problems that occur... that occasionally serve as 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concession.",4483.82,4487.52,{"idx":5194,"utterance_id":5195,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5196,"start_s":5197,"end_s":5198,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},797,"194999","Now, when it is the State that provides the service, I've never seen a state-owned company lose its concession.",4487.94,4493.66,{"idx":5200,"utterance_id":5201,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5202,"start_s":5203,"end_s":5204,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},798,"195000","Now, when it's private, you can go there and say, 'it's not you anymore, because your service is very bad.'",4494.04,4499.28,{"idx":5206,"utterance_id":5207,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5208,"start_s":5209,"end_s":5210,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":4898,"topic_label":4899,"target_id":4900,"target_proposition":4901,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":5211,"indexable":74},799,"195001","So that's what Brazil needs.",4499.5,4501.26,"Summarizes that Brazil's demand is for privatizations and efficiency.",{"idx":5213,"utterance_id":5214,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5215,"start_s":5216,"end_s":5217,"word_count":290,"indexable":74},800,"195002","We have a government that doesn't have money to provide good healthcare services, a government that doesn't have money... to repair the roads — will this government have money to invest in those companies that require billions in investments?",4501.58,4517.12,{"idx":5219,"utterance_id":5220,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5221,"start_s":5222,"end_s":5223,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},801,"195003","It won't.",4517.2,4517.56,{"idx":5225,"utterance_id":5226,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5227,"start_s":5228,"end_s":5229,"word_count":244,"indexable":74},802,"195004","Governor, just the issue, I think the second question: you say you plan to privatize Petrobras, Correios, and a number of large companies at the federal level.",4517.58,4534.9,{"idx":5231,"utterance_id":5232,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5233,"start_s":5234,"end_s":5235,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},803,"195005","But for that you need approval from the National Congress.",4535.16,4537.74,{"idx":5237,"utterance_id":5238,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5239,"start_s":5240,"end_s":5241,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},804,"195006","The question was how far you are willing to negotiate with the Centrão.",4537.78,4540.96,{"idx":5243,"utterance_id":5244,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5245,"start_s":5246,"end_s":5247,"word_count":266,"indexable":74},805,"195007","Will you give up ministries, will you give up positions so that the Centrão joins your government and so that the necessary support in the National Congress is given for these privatizations to go through?",4541.1,4551.02,{"idx":5249,"utterance_id":5250,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5251,"start_s":5252,"end_s":5253,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},806,"195008","Perfect, Gustavo.",4552.84,4553.84,{"idx":5255,"utterance_id":5256,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5257,"start_s":5258,"end_s":5259,"word_count":190,"topic_slug":5260,"topic_label":5261,"target_id":5262,"target_proposition":5263,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":5264,"indexable":702},807,"195009","Gustavo, as governor of Minas, I governed together with several political parties without giving up republican values or my principles.",4554.36,4570.02,"governanca-politica","Political Governance","cdfaf8a4-1f8c-4470-b367-f59ba2c18a8c","compose the government with criteria of integrity and programmatic alignment","Accepts allied parties provided their nominees are competent and selective.",{"idx":5266,"utterance_id":5267,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5268,"start_s":5269,"end_s":5270,"word_count":32,"indexable":74},808,"195010","If any political party walks with me and has competent people, those people will be very welcome, they will go through a selection process and I'll make it clear now, as I made clear as governor.",4571.44,4588.28,{"idx":5272,"utterance_id":5273,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5274,"start_s":5275,"end_s":5276,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},809,"195011","I want competent people in my government, people with experience in the area.",4588.76,4593,{"idx":5278,"utterance_id":5279,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5280,"start_s":5281,"end_s":5282,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},810,"195012","Often someone in politics has that background.",4593.38,4597.58,{"idx":5284,"utterance_id":5285,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5286,"start_s":5287,"end_s":5288,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},811,"195013","I saw that in Minas.",4597.86,4599.06,{"idx":5290,"utterance_id":5291,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5292,"start_s":5293,"end_s":5294,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},812,"195014","Now, if they don't perform well or do something wrong... Then, to me, it's unacceptable.",4599.26,4608.1,{"idx":5296,"utterance_id":5297,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5298,"start_s":5299,"end_s":5300,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},813,"195015","It's a matter of taking it that way.",4608.56,4611.98,{"idx":5302,"utterance_id":5303,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5304,"start_s":5305,"end_s":5306,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},814,"195016","Now, what we have today in Brasília, it seems to me, is different.",4612.2,4615.9,{"idx":5308,"utterance_id":5309,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5310,"start_s":5311,"end_s":5312,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},815,"195017","It's a carve-up.",4616.3,4617.36,{"idx":5314,"utterance_id":5315,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5316,"start_s":5317,"end_s":5318,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":5319,"target_proposition":5320,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":836,"rationale":5321,"indexable":702},816,"195018","That ministry is yours and you will do here whatever you please.",4617.5,4622.6,"d859b84c-9360-496b-b883-5db666c19de6","establish performance indicators and periodic accountability in ministries","Declares that secretaries met every 15 days to report.",{"idx":5323,"utterance_id":5324,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5325,"start_s":5326,"end_s":5327,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},817,"195019","It wasn't like that with me.",4623.02,4624.2,{"idx":44,"utterance_id":5329,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5330,"start_s":5331,"end_s":5332,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},"195020","The secretary met with me at least every 15 days to account for everything that was happening in his department.",4625.44,4634.3,{"idx":5334,"utterance_id":5335,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5336,"start_s":5337,"end_s":5338,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},819,"195021","So, for me that's not parceling-out; it's not the quid pro quo that's prevailed in Brazil.",4634.88,4641.66,{"idx":5340,"utterance_id":5341,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5342,"start_s":5343,"end_s":5344,"word_count":325,"topic_slug":5260,"topic_label":5261,"target_id":5345,"target_proposition":5346,"stance":1302,"stance_confidence":5347,"rationale":5348,"indexable":702},820,"195022","And a president elected with 60 million votes arrives there with the clout to make many changes, especially if he has a track record of fixing a State that was ruined by the PT, which is the same thing that's happening in Brasília today.",4642.12,4660.84,"545c5dee-d705-40f3-946b-52c2716e66a6","combat allocation of positions and nepotism",0.87,"Denies the practice stating 'para mim não é loteamento' and repudiates give-and-take.",{"idx":5350,"utterance_id":5351,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5352,"start_s":5353,"end_s":5354,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},821,"195023","Camila?",4661.38,4661.74,{"idx":5356,"utterance_id":5357,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5358,"start_s":5359,"end_s":5360,"word_count":301,"indexable":74},822,"195024","Governor, I'd actually like to address a topic you've already mentioned, the issue of bets, because the federal government is studying a measure to apply, possibly before the elections, a measure against bets.",4664.8,4679.06,{"idx":5362,"utterance_id":5363,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5364,"start_s":5365,"end_s":5366,"word_count":54,"indexable":74},823,"195025","Nothing is defined yet, so it's still being designed whether this will be aimed mainly at advertising, or whether it will also address a certain type of restriction.",4679.52,4690.48,{"idx":5368,"utterance_id":5369,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5370,"start_s":5371,"end_s":5372,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},824,"195026","To these bets and games, especially like 'Tigrinho', those online casinos.",4691.02,4695.8,{"idx":5374,"utterance_id":5375,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5376,"start_s":5377,"end_s":5378,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},825,"195027","You have already said that your first measure would be to restrict bets.",4697,4701.86,{"idx":5380,"utterance_id":5381,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5382,"start_s":5383,"end_s":5384,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},826,"195028","How do you see this government's initiative?",4702.5,4705.14,{"idx":5386,"utterance_id":5387,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5388,"start_s":5389,"end_s":5390,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},827,"195029","And, furthermore, considering this is a measure that's being designed, what is the ideal format, in your opinion, to combat this problem?",4705.52,4713.94,{"idx":5392,"utterance_id":5393,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5352,"start_s":5394,"end_s":5395,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},828,"195030",4716.02,4716.52,{"idx":5397,"utterance_id":5398,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5399,"start_s":5400,"end_s":5401,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":5402,"topic_label":5403,"target_id":5404,"target_proposition":5405,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":3075,"rationale":5406,"indexable":702},829,"195031","My opinion is that we need to end bets as soon as possible.",4717.52,4723,"jogos-de-aposta","Betting","7cf65ea5-d059-48cc-830d-1278148e1d2d","prohibit betting games","Explicitly declares 'precisamos acabar com as betes o quanto antes'.",{"idx":5408,"utterance_id":5409,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5410,"start_s":5411,"end_s":5412,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},830,"195032","Several countries have already done this.",4723.66,4726.1,{"idx":5414,"utterance_id":5415,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5416,"start_s":5417,"end_s":5418,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},831,"195033","This is almost like a digital cocaine.",4727.02,4729.72,{"idx":5420,"utterance_id":5421,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5422,"start_s":5423,"end_s":5424,"word_count":244,"indexable":74},832,"195034","I met with mothers, with people who are experiencing this kind of problem, and the algorithm there, the structure of the little game, was made to make the person truly addicted.",4730.72,4745.9,{"idx":5426,"utterance_id":5427,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5428,"start_s":5429,"end_s":5430,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},833,"195035","Someone who is about to give up, the algorithm notices this and sends, I don't know, some amount of reais to the person to keep them playing.",4746.76,4755,{"idx":5432,"utterance_id":5433,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5434,"start_s":5435,"end_s":5436,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},834,"195036","This is a terror for our society.",4755.84,4758.92,{"idx":5438,"utterance_id":5439,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5440,"start_s":5441,"end_s":5442,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},835,"195037","Today we have record indebtedness of Brazilian families.",4759.48,4765.04,{"idx":5444,"utterance_id":5445,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5446,"start_s":5447,"end_s":5448,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},836,"195038","I largely attribute it to bets.",4765.8,4768.12,{"idx":5450,"utterance_id":5451,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5452,"start_s":5453,"end_s":5454,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},837,"195039","I've always been a hands-on, shop-floor manager.",4768.84,4771.72,{"idx":5456,"utterance_id":5457,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5458,"start_s":5459,"end_s":5460,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},838,"195040","I always went out into the streets to talk to customers, when I was a businessman and as governor, to talk to everyone to find out how things are.",4772.3,4782.14,{"idx":5462,"utterance_id":5463,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5464,"start_s":5465,"end_s":5466,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},839,"195041","And I have seen, I've already spoken with people who told me.",4783.14,4786.56,{"idx":5468,"utterance_id":5469,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5470,"start_s":5471,"end_s":5472,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},840,"195042","I met my neighbor who let baby food run out in order to be able to keep playing.",4787.9,4796.32,{"idx":5474,"utterance_id":5475,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5476,"start_s":5477,"end_s":5478,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},841,"195043","This is the country we are today.",4796.92,4799.12,{"idx":5480,"utterance_id":5481,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5482,"start_s":5483,"end_s":5484,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},842,"195044","And a government that only thinks about raising revenue, about increasing taxes.",4799.86,4804.84,{"idx":5486,"utterance_id":5487,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5488,"start_s":5489,"end_s":5490,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},843,"195045","And I don't know of any public policy to deal with these gambling addicts.",4805.28,4812.02,{"idx":5492,"utterance_id":5493,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5494,"start_s":5495,"end_s":5496,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},844,"195046","Is it ludopaths?",4812.4,4813.44,{"idx":5498,"utterance_id":5499,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":1219,"start_s":5500,"end_s":5501,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},845,"195047",4814.98,4815.98,{"idx":5503,"utterance_id":5504,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5505,"start_s":5506,"end_s":5507,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},846,"195048","Is it ludo-something?",4816.04,4817.22,{"idx":5509,"utterance_id":5510,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5511,"start_s":5512,"end_s":5513,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},847,"195049","It's ludopathy.",4817.5,4818.38,{"idx":5515,"utterance_id":5516,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5517,"start_s":5518,"end_s":5519,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},848,"195050","Ludopathy.",4818.68,4819.48,{"idx":5521,"utterance_id":5522,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5523,"start_s":5524,"end_s":5525,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},849,"195051","Thank you.",4819.68,4820.16,{"idx":5527,"utterance_id":5528,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5529,"start_s":5530,"end_s":5531,"word_count":266,"indexable":74},850,"195052","Now, Governor, speaking specifically about the measure — because you mentioned it — you say you are not aware of a measure to combat this problem of gambling addiction, but is it true that the government has been studying such a measure?",4820.18,4833.5,{"idx":5533,"utterance_id":5534,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5535,"start_s":5536,"end_s":5537,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},851,"195053","How do you see that?",4833.66,4835.22,{"idx":5539,"utterance_id":5540,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5541,"start_s":5542,"end_s":5543,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},852,"195054","Do you believe that, if it's the government's intention, it would be ideal to implement this before the elections?",4835.28,4840.86,{"idx":5545,"utterance_id":5546,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5547,"start_s":5548,"end_s":5549,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},853,"195055","Do you believe a provisional measure would be positive, considering that the next government would inherit it and would have to try to approve it in the National Congress?",4841.36,4852.86,{"idx":5551,"utterance_id":5552,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5553,"start_s":5554,"end_s":5555,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},854,"195056","Would it be better to judicialize this issue or to have an actual bill so it can be debated concretely?",4853.28,4859.42,{"idx":5557,"utterance_id":5558,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5559,"start_s":5560,"end_s":5561,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},855,"195057","And also, what measures?",4859.46,4860.76,{"idx":5563,"utterance_id":5564,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5565,"start_s":5566,"end_s":5567,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},856,"195058","Restrict advertising, restrict the platforms themselves?",4861.3,4864.3,{"idx":5569,"utterance_id":5570,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5571,"start_s":5572,"end_s":5573,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},857,"195059","How do you see it in more concrete terms?",4865.02,4867.5,{"idx":5575,"utterance_id":5576,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5577,"start_s":5578,"end_s":5579,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":5402,"topic_label":5403,"target_id":5404,"target_proposition":5405,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":3075,"rationale":5580,"indexable":702},858,"195060","As president, I would issue a provisional measure on the first day, as I have already said.",4869.2,4875.42,"Proposes issuing a provisional measure on the first day to cut that problem.",{"idx":5582,"utterance_id":5583,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5584,"start_s":5585,"end_s":5586,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},859,"195061","And, at least, you cut the problem off at its root.",4876.34,4879.34,{"idx":5588,"utterance_id":5589,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5590,"start_s":5591,"end_s":5592,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},860,"195062","And then you figure out how to manage the voting, etc.",4879.64,4883.82,{"idx":5594,"utterance_id":5595,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5596,"start_s":5597,"end_s":5598,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},861,"195063","But, at least... you already give great relief to millions of Brazilians who are becoming addicted, dependent.",4884.68,4894.26,{"idx":5600,"utterance_id":5601,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5602,"start_s":5603,"end_s":5604,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":5402,"topic_label":5403,"target_id":5404,"target_proposition":5405,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":5605,"indexable":702},862,"195064","And once again, this government was the one that approved betting.",4894.74,4898.54,"Criticizes the government for having approved the bets and calls for their prohibition.",{"idx":5607,"utterance_id":5608,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5609,"start_s":5610,"end_s":5611,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},863,"195065","This government is to blame.",4899.14,4901.64,{"idx":5613,"utterance_id":5614,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5615,"start_s":5616,"end_s":5617,"word_count":361,"indexable":74},864,"195066","Today... Those who are dependent, who are spending money they have and don't have, it's because of this irresponsible government, which, besides raising taxes, has carried out this kind of... I don't even know how to classify it, an action against society, which is almost like distributing drugs while it profits.",4902.1,4926.06,{"idx":5619,"utterance_id":5620,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5621,"start_s":5622,"end_s":5623,"word_count":319,"indexable":74},865,"195067","And here I also express my repudiation of the influencers, who have... earned millions of reais, say they have a betting company, and the more someone gambles and loses, the more the influencer — the algorithm, as they say — benefits from those losses.",4926.56,4946.04,{"idx":5625,"utterance_id":5626,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5627,"start_s":5628,"end_s":5629,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},866,"195068","Yes, it's profiting from other people's misery.",4946.22,4948.94,{"idx":5631,"utterance_id":5632,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5633,"start_s":5634,"end_s":5635,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},867,"195069","This is unacceptable.",4949.1,4950.24,{"idx":5637,"utterance_id":5638,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5639,"start_s":5640,"end_s":5641,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},868,"195070","It's like being a cocaine grower.",4950.64,4952.92,{"idx":5643,"utterance_id":5644,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5645,"start_s":5646,"end_s":5647,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},869,"195071","He's making a fortune while the other, in misery, pays for it.",4952.94,4958.22,{"idx":5649,"utterance_id":5650,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5651,"start_s":5652,"end_s":5653,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},870,"195072","Governor, candidate Zema.",4961.68,4964.1,{"idx":5655,"utterance_id":5656,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5657,"start_s":5658,"end_s":5659,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},871,"195073","You've been in government so long that we've come to call you Governor.",4964.94,4967.74,{"idx":5661,"utterance_id":5662,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5663,"start_s":5664,"end_s":5665,"word_count":313,"indexable":74},872,"195074","I'd like to say: whenever you give an interview, whenever you participate in a candidate forum, you're asked about the Bolsa Família program, and you strongly advocate an exit pathway from Bolsa Família.",4969.3,4980.44,{"idx":5667,"utterance_id":5668,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5669,"start_s":5670,"end_s":5671,"word_count":54,"indexable":74},873,"195075","I want to talk about this issue but applying another logic, another type of benefit, which are the tax benefits granted by the federal government to various companies.",4980.86,4990.04,{"idx":5673,"utterance_id":5674,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5675,"start_s":5676,"end_s":5677,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},874,"195076","Today we have around 540 billion reais in tax benefits for companies.",4990.38,4995.56,{"idx":5679,"utterance_id":5680,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5681,"start_s":5682,"end_s":5683,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},875,"195077","And during your government in Minas Gerais, there were also several tax benefits, such as, for example, presumed tax credits, special regimes, the Refis program.",4995.94,5005.3,{"idx":5685,"utterance_id":5686,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5687,"start_s":5688,"end_s":5689,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},876,"195078","And there was even that case of Eletrozema, which received discounts on the order of 2.2 million.",5005.84,5011.5,{"idx":5691,"utterance_id":5692,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5693,"start_s":5694,"end_s":5695,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},877,"195079","A company of your family received ICMS discounts.",5011.84,5016.58,{"idx":5697,"utterance_id":5698,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5699,"start_s":5700,"end_s":5701,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},878,"195080","I'd like to ask you how, in a possible Zema government, this issue of tax benefits will be handled.",5017.48,5022.98,{"idx":5703,"utterance_id":5704,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5705,"start_s":5706,"end_s":5707,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},879,"195081","Again, I repeat, R$ 540 billion in tax benefits.",5023.14,5027.68,{"idx":5709,"utterance_id":5710,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5711,"start_s":5712,"end_s":5713,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},880,"195082","Will there be an exit for those business owners who today only survive without productivity thanks to the government's tax benefits?",5028.04,5037.24,{"idx":5715,"utterance_id":5716,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5717,"start_s":5718,"end_s":5719,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},881,"195083","Or will we have the poor leaving Bolsa Família when their situation improves, while businessmen keep sponging off the government without end?",5037.58,5046.6,{"idx":5721,"utterance_id":5722,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5723,"start_s":5724,"end_s":5725,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},882,"195084","Gustavo... Great question.",5046.62,5048.82,{"idx":5727,"utterance_id":5728,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5729,"start_s":5730,"end_s":5731,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":5732,"topic_label":5733,"target_id":5734,"target_proposition":5735,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":5736,"indexable":702},883,"195085","First, all the benefits in the State of Minas during my governorship were targeted at sectors.",5050.18,5056.62,"politica-fiscal-e-social","Fiscal and Social Policy","87c586f1-80bf-4096-8583-585d11ef2f7d","grant temporary tax incentives with a reduction schedule","Argues that State of Minas benefits were sector-specific and attracted investments.",{"idx":5738,"utterance_id":5739,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5740,"start_s":5741,"end_s":5742,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},884,"195086","If the company I managed, in which I'm a partner, received any benefit, hundreds of others that operate in the same activity received it too.",5057.84,5066.66,{"idx":5744,"utterance_id":5745,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5746,"start_s":5747,"end_s":5748,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},885,"195087","If you want to set up there, you will get the same benefit.",5067.16,5070.88,{"idx":5750,"utterance_id":5751,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5752,"start_s":5753,"end_s":5754,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},886,"195088","So, it's a benefit that the State of Minas gives to e‑commerce companies.",5071.6,5076.84,{"idx":5756,"utterance_id":5757,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5758,"start_s":5759,"end_s":5760,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":5732,"topic_label":5733,"target_id":5734,"target_proposition":5735,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":5761,"indexable":702},887,"195089","And that attracted many investments to the State.",5076.86,5081.32,"States that the benefits brought many investments to the state.",{"idx":5763,"utterance_id":5764,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5765,"start_s":5766,"end_s":5767,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":5768,"target_proposition":5769,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":5770,"indexable":74},888,"195090","And it made, Gustavo, tax revenue rise.",5082.08,5085.2,"ebaea3ea-b774-45e1-b0d8-0dceb8ed215d","increase public revenues without raising taxes and reduce expenditures","Reports that revenue increased without proposing explicit action.",{"idx":5772,"utterance_id":5773,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5774,"start_s":5775,"end_s":5776,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},889,"195091","I'll give an example here.",5086.32,5087.58,{"idx":5778,"utterance_id":5779,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5780,"start_s":5781,"end_s":5782,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":2055,"topic_label":2056,"target_id":5783,"target_proposition":5784,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":5785,"indexable":702},890,"195092","During my administration, we set up several beer factories in Minas.",5087.7,5094.34,"9d0c0c21-35cc-45e9-a0ec-06b1380d2502","attract industrial investment to Brazil","Claims action by his\u002Fher own government: 'implantamos diversas fábricas'.",{"idx":5787,"utterance_id":5788,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5789,"start_s":5790,"end_s":5791,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5794,"target_proposition":5795,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":5796,"indexable":74},891,"195093","These factories have the incentive that already existed.",5096.48,5099.74,"privilegios-fiscais","Tax Privileges","67c9c2db-ace3-4ecf-b79d-e823ca7a2cb5","grant tax incentives to attract industries","States that these factories have an incentive that already existed (description).",{"idx":5798,"utterance_id":5799,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5800,"start_s":5801,"end_s":5802,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},892,"195094","Another very important point here.",5099.84,5101.4,{"idx":5804,"utterance_id":5805,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5806,"start_s":5807,"end_s":5808,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5794,"target_proposition":5795,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":5809,"indexable":74},893,"195095","All the incentives already existed before I took office.",5101.72,5105.04,"Says incentives already existed before their administration (account).",{"idx":5811,"utterance_id":5812,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5813,"start_s":5814,"end_s":5815,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5794,"target_proposition":5795,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":5816,"rationale":5817,"indexable":74},894,"195096","I never created an incentive during my administration.",5105.62,5109,0.6,"Denies having created incentives — account of past conduct, without proposing action.",{"idx":5819,"utterance_id":5820,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5821,"start_s":5822,"end_s":5823,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},895,"195097","They already existed.",5109.5,5110.34,{"idx":5825,"utterance_id":5826,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5827,"start_s":5828,"end_s":5829,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},896,"195098","Now let's take the reasoning here that applies to a state and also to a country.",5111.22,5116.56,{"idx":5831,"utterance_id":5832,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5833,"start_s":5834,"end_s":5835,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},897,"195099","That happened for me with the beer factories.",5117.64,5120.14,{"idx":5837,"utterance_id":5838,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5839,"start_s":5840,"end_s":5841,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5794,"target_proposition":5795,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":2398,"rationale":5842,"indexable":74},898,"195100","You may be saying they came because of the tax incentive.",5121.32,5125.08,"Suggests a cause (tax incentive) as the reason for the installation (description).",{"idx":5844,"utterance_id":5845,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5846,"start_s":5847,"end_s":5848,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},899,"195101","All right.",5125.38,5125.82,{"idx":5850,"utterance_id":5851,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5852,"start_s":5853,"end_s":5854,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5794,"target_proposition":5795,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":5855,"indexable":74},900,"195102","The State gave them an incentive.",5126.52,5128.66,"States that the state granted an incentive (descriptive fact).",{"idx":5857,"utterance_id":5858,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5859,"start_s":5860,"end_s":5861,"word_count":103,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":5862,"target_proposition":5863,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":5864,"indexable":74},901,"195103","Now, Gustavo, are they paying?",5128.88,5131.3,"d0139c0f-e5e6-4dba-a062-3a53e3e7d407","increase the tax burden","Asks whether the factories are paying ICMS — factual inquiry about revenue.",{"idx":5866,"utterance_id":5867,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5868,"start_s":5861,"end_s":5869,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":5862,"target_proposition":5863,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":5870,"indexable":74},902,"195104","100, 200 million in ICMS per year.",5136,"Provides ICMS values (descriptive data about revenue).",{"idx":5872,"utterance_id":5873,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5874,"start_s":5875,"end_s":5876,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5877,"target_proposition":5878,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":5879,"indexable":702},903,"195105","So I ask, did the State lose out or is it gaining?",5137.32,5141.66,"57ae87cc-9f66-40bc-a3ab-abfddb64cc59","grant temporary tax incentives with gradual phase-out","Questions whether the state lost, defending that incentives produce fiscal gains.",{"idx":1364,"utterance_id":5881,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5882,"start_s":5883,"end_s":5884,"word_count":201,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5877,"target_proposition":5878,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":5885,"indexable":702},"195106","If you say that the State should have received 300 and is only receiving 200, then you're saying it's losing.",5142.7,5151.3,"Repeats the argument that the incentive generates revenue rather than loss.",{"idx":5887,"utterance_id":5888,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5889,"start_s":5890,"end_s":5891,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5877,"target_proposition":5878,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":3075,"rationale":5892,"indexable":702},905,"195107","Now I say, if the factory hadn't come, we wouldn't be receiving anything; we'd be at zero.",5151.98,5160.08,"Explicitly states that without the factory there would be no revenue (defense of the incentive).",{"idx":5894,"utterance_id":5895,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5896,"start_s":5897,"end_s":5898,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},906,"195108","We are receiving 200.",5160.42,5161.58,{"idx":5900,"utterance_id":5901,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5902,"start_s":5903,"end_s":5904,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":2055,"topic_label":2056,"target_id":5905,"target_proposition":5906,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":5907,"indexable":702},907,"195109","If many industries that are here in Brazil move to Argentina, to Peru, to Colombia, would that be good for Brazil?",5161.76,5173.72,"abfb4475-1ad5-4ee5-8a72-97543653260d","attract and retain industries in the country","Rhetorical question against industry migration, arguing they should be kept here.",{"idx":5909,"utterance_id":5910,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5911,"start_s":5912,"end_s":5913,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5914,"target_proposition":5915,"stance":1302,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":5916,"indexable":74},908,"195110","I am totally opposed to a 'Welfare for Inefficiency'.",5174.36,5178.96,"3bc5615e-6471-467c-b5bb-41d4e50e8b4e","grant permanent subsidies to inefficient companies","Declares 'totalmente contrário à Bolsa Ineficiência' (direct opposition).",{"idx":5918,"utterance_id":5919,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5920,"start_s":5921,"end_s":5922,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},909,"195111","I am.",5179.5,5180.12,{"idx":5924,"utterance_id":5925,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5926,"start_s":5927,"end_s":5928,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5914,"target_proposition":5915,"stance":1302,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":5929,"indexable":74},910,"195112","A company that only wants to sponge off the government.",5181.12,5184.84,"Describes companies that 'mamam' on the government negatively (criticism of subsidies).",{"idx":5931,"utterance_id":5932,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5933,"start_s":5934,"end_s":5935,"word_count":266,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5877,"target_proposition":5878,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":5936,"indexable":702},911,"195113","Now, if you have an intelligent incentive... one that is temporary to attract and is weaned over time, it may be an intelligent incentive that the majority of countries in the world make use of.",5185.4,5202.86,"Advocates temporary incentives and a gradual phase-out as a smart policy.",{"idx":5938,"utterance_id":5939,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5940,"start_s":5941,"end_s":5942,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},912,"195114","So we can't... No, just so I understand, candidate.",5203.4,5207.52,{"idx":5944,"utterance_id":5945,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5946,"start_s":5947,"end_s":5948,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},913,"195115","It's just so I understand.",5207.98,5208.7,{"idx":5950,"utterance_id":5951,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5952,"start_s":5953,"end_s":5954,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5955,"target_proposition":5956,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":5957,"indexable":702},914,"195116","So you defend that there really is an exit path... for these companies, for these tax benefits?",5208.74,5214.2,"b88c7f20-fc7d-4572-9944-c433d40784f2","cut privileges of tax expenditures","Rhetorical question that validates the existence of a 'porta de saída' for incentives.",{"idx":5959,"utterance_id":5960,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5961,"start_s":5962,"end_s":5963,"word_count":493,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5955,"target_proposition":5956,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":5964,"indexable":702},915,"195117","Even addressing not only the issue of Minas, where you have already ceased to be governor, but thinking at a federal level, where you plan to be President of the Republic, is it necessary to have an exit path for these business owners so that not only do they remain in Brazil being productive, but also pay taxes, and so the government can collect what it currently relinquishes through tax benefits?",5214.26,5236.98,"advocates a federal exit mechanism for tax benefits and future revenue.",{"idx":5966,"utterance_id":5967,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5968,"start_s":5969,"end_s":5970,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},916,"195118","Is that more or less it?",5237.02,5238,{"idx":5972,"utterance_id":5973,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":85,"start_s":5974,"end_s":5975,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},917,"195119",5238.32,5238.7,{"idx":5977,"utterance_id":5978,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5979,"start_s":5980,"end_s":5981,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},918,"195120","Let's take the case of the Manaus Free Trade Zone.",5238.72,5241.06,{"idx":5983,"utterance_id":5984,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5985,"start_s":5986,"end_s":5987,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5988,"target_proposition":5989,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":5990,"indexable":74},919,"195121","It has existed for 70 years.",5241.48,5243.38,"6c5742ea-9f08-48fa-8e23-62d378f1975b","review and reduce Manaus Free Trade Zone subsidies with a soft landing","reports that the Zona Franca has existed for 70 years (descriptive context).",{"idx":5992,"utterance_id":5993,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":5994,"start_s":5995,"end_s":5996,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5988,"target_proposition":5989,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":5997,"indexable":702},920,"195122","Does it need to exist for another 200 years?",5243.44,5245.68,"questions the need to keep the incentive longer (suggests ending it).",{"idx":5999,"utterance_id":6000,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6001,"start_s":5996,"end_s":6002,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5988,"target_proposition":5989,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":6003,"indexable":702},921,"195123","Seventy years has been enough time to consolidate something.",5251.2,"states that 70 years was enough and indicates a necessary phase-out.",{"idx":6005,"utterance_id":6006,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6007,"start_s":6008,"end_s":6009,"word_count":143,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5988,"target_proposition":5989,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":6010,"indexable":702},922,"195124","Do we have to continue with this incentive at this scale?",5251.3,5256,"asks whether it's necessary to keep the incentive at that size (critique of continuity).",{"idx":6012,"utterance_id":6013,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6014,"start_s":6015,"end_s":6016,"word_count":190,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5988,"target_proposition":5989,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":6017,"indexable":702},923,"195125","In my opinion, there should be a weaning over time and it seems to me there is no such provision.",5256.06,5263.1,"explicitly states the need for a phase-out over time.",{"idx":6019,"utterance_id":6020,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6021,"start_s":6022,"end_s":6023,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5988,"target_proposition":5989,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":6024,"indexable":74},924,"195126","So, on that side, it's very bad.",5263.54,5266.14,"summarizes that continuity in the current format is 'muito ruim'.",{"idx":6026,"utterance_id":6027,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6028,"start_s":6029,"end_s":6030,"word_count":143,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":5877,"target_proposition":5878,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":6031,"indexable":702},925,"195127","I say that tax incentives must be like an allowance for a child.",5266.62,5270.46,"metaphorical comparison: an incentive should be like an allowance (temporary).",{"idx":6033,"utterance_id":6034,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6035,"start_s":6036,"end_s":6037,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},926,"195128","While they're a child, a teenager, studying, that's fine.",5270.62,5274.72,{"idx":6039,"utterance_id":6040,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6041,"start_s":6042,"end_s":6043,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},927,"195129","At some point they'll become adults.",5275.28,5277.56,{"idx":6045,"utterance_id":6046,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6047,"start_s":6048,"end_s":6049,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":5792,"topic_label":5793,"target_id":6050,"target_proposition":6051,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":6052,"indexable":74},928,"195130","So we must end this.",5278,5279.74,"17989547-3bb7-41d2-a598-4d7a2eeb1a44","end permanent tax incentives and institute a phase-out","declares 'temos de acabar com isso', advocating an end to permanent incentives.",{"idx":6054,"utterance_id":6055,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6056,"start_s":6057,"end_s":6058,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},929,"195131","Now, Gustavo, a very important point here.",5279.82,5282.42,{"idx":6060,"utterance_id":6061,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6062,"start_s":6063,"end_s":6064,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":6065,"target_proposition":6066,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":6067,"indexable":74},930,"195132","Those who operate in Brazil, Gustavo, as you know well from following it, face the cost of doing business in Brazil.",5282.44,5289.2,"352cb115-74d0-4e60-afc7-97c6f58379bc","reduce production costs in Brazil","introduces the concept of 'custo Brasil' as a factor for investors (description).",{"idx":6069,"utterance_id":6070,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6071,"start_s":6072,"end_s":6073,"word_count":143,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":6074,"target_proposition":6075,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":6076,"indexable":702},931,"195133","Here in Brazil we have the highest interest rate in the world.",5290.22,5293.74,"3bbafff7-d333-44a1-98fc-d7cd8550fdf8","reduce interest rates and the tax burden","states that Brazil has the highest interest rates (economic fact).",{"idx":6078,"utterance_id":6079,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6080,"start_s":6081,"end_s":6082,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},932,"195134","Whoever is here producing in Brazil, if they go to a bank to borrow money today, Gustavo, pays 20% per year.",5294.14,5301.04,{"idx":6084,"utterance_id":6085,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6086,"start_s":6087,"end_s":6088,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},933,"195135","If they were in Europe, Asia, or North America, they'd pay maybe 6%.",5301.06,5305.06,{"idx":6090,"utterance_id":6091,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6092,"start_s":6093,"end_s":6094,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":6095,"topic_label":6096,"target_id":6097,"target_proposition":6098,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":6099,"indexable":702},934,"195136","Here in Brazil we have massive legal insecurity.",5306.62,5310.72,"politica-de-justica","Justice Policy","210a7a9f-bdaa-41c1-bca3-1e8988354eb5","guarantee impartiality and accountability in the Judiciary","reports legal uncertainty and decisions favoring 'banqueiro'.",{"idx":6101,"utterance_id":6102,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6103,"start_s":6104,"end_s":6105,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},935,"195137","There's the case of the 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seeing.",5315.58,5323.52,{"idx":6120,"utterance_id":6121,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6122,"start_s":6123,"end_s":6124,"word_count":190,"topic_slug":6125,"topic_label":6126,"target_id":6127,"target_proposition":6128,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":6129,"indexable":702},938,"195140","Here in Brazil we have tax legislation that is a madhouse; you need an army of people to calculate it.",5324.18,5331.26,"reforma-fiscal","Fiscal Reform","7343ec22-c233-435e-aa9e-837953fe5dc8","reduce the complexity of the Brazilian tax system","defines tax legislation as 'manicômio' and asks to correct the root cause.",{"idx":6131,"utterance_id":6132,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6133,"start_s":6134,"end_s":6135,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},939,"195141","In another country you need five.",5331.7,5334.12,{"idx":6137,"utterance_id":6138,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6139,"start_s":6140,"end_s":6141,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":6065,"target_proposition":6066,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":6142,"indexable":702},940,"195142","So I think we have to fix the root cause, which is the cost of doing business in Brazil.",5334.5,5338.58,"states that fixing the 'custo Brasil' removes the need for incentives.",{"idx":6144,"utterance_id":6145,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6146,"start_s":6147,"end_s":6148,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},941,"195143","And then you don't need any incentive, because here in Brazil we often end up trying to block the sun with a sieve.",5339.08,5345.4,{"idx":6150,"utterance_id":6151,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6152,"start_s":6153,"end_s":6154,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},942,"195144","Go ahead?",5346.66,5347.08,{"idx":6156,"utterance_id":6157,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6158,"start_s":6159,"end_s":6160,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":6125,"topic_label":6126,"target_id":6161,"target_proposition":6162,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":2398,"rationale":6163,"indexable":74},943,"195145","Would you change anything about the tax reform recently approved in the National Congress?",5347.42,5352.54,"444bb0f7-db90-4f89-a178-e61eebf99a25","change tax legislation","asks whether the interviewee would change the approved reform (question).",{"idx":6165,"utterance_id":6166,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6167,"start_s":6168,"end_s":6169,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},944,"195146","You spoke, for example, about the Brazil cost, about how much each company spends, for example, to pay its own taxes.",5352.84,5361.8,{"idx":6171,"utterance_id":6172,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6173,"start_s":6174,"end_s":6175,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},945,"195147","Would you propose a new tax reform?",5362.12,5364.34,{"idx":6177,"utterance_id":6178,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6179,"start_s":6180,"end_s":6181,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},946,"195148","What would be the terms of this new reform?",5364.38,5366.08,{"idx":6183,"utterance_id":6184,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6185,"start_s":6186,"end_s":6187,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":6125,"topic_label":6126,"target_id":6127,"target_proposition":6128,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":6188,"indexable":702},947,"195149","The tax reform, Gustavo, simplifies things for the productive sector.",5367.38,5372.44,"says the reform simplifies matters for the productive sector (support for simplification).",{"idx":6190,"utterance_id":6191,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6192,"start_s":6193,"end_s":6194,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},948,"195150","I spent 30 years there racking my brains to understand taxes.",5372.88,5377.54,{"idx":6196,"utterance_id":6197,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6198,"start_s":6199,"end_s":6200,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},949,"195151","And I left with many doubts.",5378.24,5381.38,{"idx":6202,"utterance_id":6203,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6204,"start_s":6205,"end_s":6206,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},950,"195152","No one can understand it.",5381.64,5383,{"idx":6208,"utterance_id":6209,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6210,"start_s":6211,"end_s":6212,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":6125,"topic_label":6126,"target_id":6127,"target_proposition":6128,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":6213,"indexable":74},951,"195153","Because a court changes the way it interprets things, and the taxpayer ends up facing a surprise.",5383.44,5394.44,"reports that changes in judicial interpretation create uncertainty (description).",{"idx":6215,"utterance_id":6216,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6217,"start_s":6218,"end_s":6219,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},952,"195154","Either the taxpayer has a credit or a debt they never imagined they would have.",5394.64,5398.76,{"idx":6221,"utterance_id":6222,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6223,"start_s":6224,"end_s":6225,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":6125,"topic_label":6126,"target_id":6127,"target_proposition":6128,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":6226,"indexable":702},953,"195155","So this insecurity... will be greatly reduced by the tax reform.",5399.46,5404.86,"claims the reform will reduce tax legal uncertainty.",{"idx":6228,"utterance_id":6229,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6230,"start_s":6231,"end_s":6232,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":6125,"topic_label":6126,"target_id":6161,"target_proposition":6162,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":6233,"indexable":702},954,"195156","Now, the reform, in my view, has one part that turned out badly.",5405.46,5408.94,"says one point of the reform turned out poorly, proposing an alteration (constructive criticism).",{"idx":6235,"utterance_id":6236,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6237,"start_s":6238,"end_s":6239,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":6125,"topic_label":6126,"target_id":6240,"target_proposition":6241,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":6242,"indexable":74},955,"195157","The rich will buy food without paying tax.",5409.76,5412.56,"6de7abdc-a9e2-49f4-8028-d1f63b3a8a34","implement consumption taxes with compensation for low-income households","proposes taxing consumption and refunding low incomes; criticizes exemptions for the rich.",{"idx":6244,"utterance_id":6245,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6246,"start_s":6247,"end_s":6248,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":6125,"topic_label":6126,"target_id":6240,"target_proposition":6241,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":6249,"indexable":702},956,"195158","In my opinion... there should be a tax and low-income people should receive a refund.",5413.4,5420.46,"advocates a tax with refunds for low-income people (explicit proposal).",{"idx":6251,"utterance_id":6252,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6253,"start_s":6254,"end_s":6255,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},957,"195159","It would be much fairer than the exceptions that were made.",5421.12,5425.52,{"idx":6257,"utterance_id":6258,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6259,"start_s":6260,"end_s":6261,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":6125,"topic_label":6126,"target_id":6240,"target_proposition":6241,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":6262,"indexable":702},958,"195160","Low-income people should not pay tax on medicine or food.",5426.04,5433.94,"states that the poor should not pay tax on medicines and food.",{"idx":6264,"utterance_id":6265,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6266,"start_s":6267,"end_s":6268,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},959,"195161","And we are granting exemptions to the rich.",5434.42,5437.02,{"idx":6270,"utterance_id":6271,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6272,"start_s":6273,"end_s":6274,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},960,"195162","The rich... with the tax reform will buy rice and beans without paying tax.",5437.52,5442.78,{"idx":6276,"utterance_id":6277,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6278,"start_s":6279,"end_s":6280,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},961,"195163","In my view it should be only the less favored class.",5442.8,5446.32,{"idx":6282,"utterance_id":6283,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6284,"start_s":6285,"end_s":6286,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":6125,"topic_label":6126,"target_id":6161,"target_proposition":6162,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":6287,"indexable":702},962,"195164","So, on that side, the reform wasn't good.",5446.62,5450,"says that, in that regard, the reform 'não foi boa' and suggests change.",{"idx":6289,"utterance_id":6290,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6291,"start_s":6292,"end_s":6293,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":5732,"topic_label":5733,"target_id":6294,"target_proposition":6295,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":6296,"indexable":702},963,"195165","And the rate they're talking about is also very high.",5450.2,5453.3,"45d56ec9-0596-407e-87c2-3ab02194d50e","reduce tax burden on basic foods and exempt part of the population from income tax","criticizes high tax rates and announces a plan to reduce the burden through efficiency.",{"idx":6298,"utterance_id":6299,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6300,"start_s":6301,"end_s":6302,"word_count":201,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":6303,"target_proposition":6304,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":887,"rationale":6305,"indexable":702},964,"195166","I, in fact, Gustavo, include in my government plan a proposal to improve the efficiency of the public administration by 1% per year.",5454.16,5464.86,"d0891e1f-ece7-4037-8f02-80f8e6797be7","increase public sector efficiency by at least 1% per year","explicitly states a government plan proposal (efficiency target).",{"idx":6307,"utterance_id":6308,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6309,"start_s":6310,"end_s":6311,"word_count":172,"topic_slug":5732,"topic_label":5733,"target_id":6312,"target_proposition":6313,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":6314,"indexable":702},965,"195167","Over the coming decades and to have that passed on as a reduction in the tax burden.",5465.5,5475.04,"fb64a931-5338-4017-9bbe-b65303cfab64","implement a low-tax system for individuals and expand the taxpayer base","proposes passing on efficiency as a reduction in the tax burden.",{"idx":6316,"utterance_id":6317,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6318,"start_s":6319,"end_s":6320,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":5732,"topic_label":5733,"target_id":6294,"target_proposition":6295,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":6321,"indexable":74},966,"195168","What has Brazil witnessed in the last 30 years?",5475.98,5479.72,"reports a history of increases in the tax burden (historical description).",{"idx":38,"utterance_id":6323,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6324,"start_s":6325,"end_s":6326,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},"195169","Only increases in the tax burden.",5480.42,5482.88,{"idx":6328,"utterance_id":6329,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6330,"start_s":6331,"end_s":6332,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},968,"195170","We've never had a reversal.",5483.5,5485.34,{"idx":6334,"utterance_id":6335,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6336,"start_s":6337,"end_s":6338,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},969,"195171","We have the highest tax burden in Latin America; we have the highest tax burden of any country with the same level of development as ours.",5486.5,5498.08,{"idx":6340,"utterance_id":6341,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6342,"start_s":6343,"end_s":6344,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},970,"195172","That's wrong.",5498.7,5499.38,{"idx":6346,"utterance_id":6347,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6348,"start_s":6349,"end_s":6350,"word_count":172,"topic_slug":6351,"topic_label":6352,"target_id":6353,"target_proposition":6354,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":6355,"indexable":702},971,"195173","And we are seeing, with this government of bought politicians, where this money is going.",5499.92,5506.8,"governanca-e-corrupcao","Governance and Corruption","99775e61-c244-442e-9bf6-9485308cbccd","ensure proper use of public revenue","accuses a 'governo de políticos vendidos' of diverting resources; calls for correction.",{"idx":6357,"utterance_id":6358,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6359,"start_s":6360,"end_s":6361,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},972,"195174","It's going everywhere except to improve services for those who pay taxes.",5507.24,5513.46,{"idx":6363,"utterance_id":6364,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6365,"start_s":6366,"end_s":6367,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":6368,"target_proposition":6369,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":6370,"indexable":74},973,"195175","So, a leaner government is necessary.",5514.08,5517.38,"63269ba1-31e0-40ba-9577-3c97159ec5fc","streamline the public apparatus and reduce government spending","says a leaner government is necessary and to put an end to inefficiency.",{"idx":6372,"utterance_id":6373,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6374,"start_s":6375,"end_s":6376,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":6377,"target_proposition":6378,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":6379,"indexable":702},974,"195176","Today there is technology, digitalization, artificial intelligence that can make government much more efficient.",5517.68,5528.26,"3678a731-cbe9-4349-be7d-43047dfdd6a7","contract technology through bidding to modernize public services","advocates using technology and digitization for greater government efficiency.",{"idx":6381,"utterance_id":6382,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6383,"start_s":6384,"end_s":6385,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},975,"195177","That's what I did my whole life as an entrepreneur.",5528.54,5531.16,{"idx":6387,"utterance_id":6388,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6389,"start_s":6390,"end_s":6391,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},976,"195178","An entrepreneur, a businessperson in Brazil does that, because if they don't improve efficiency, they're out of the game.",5532.62,5538.48,{"idx":6393,"utterance_id":6394,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6395,"start_s":6396,"end_s":6397,"word_count":172,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":6398,"target_proposition":6399,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":6400,"indexable":702},977,"195179","And here we have a government that only keeps accumulating bloat and inefficiency over the decades.",5538.9,5545.02,"7d6ad3fd-3d99-4908-952b-df1921ef50bb","prioritize results-driven management and public efficiency","criticizes the government for accumulating 'gordura e ineficiência' and promises to act.",{"idx":6402,"utterance_id":6403,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6404,"start_s":6405,"end_s":6406,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":46,"topic_label":42,"target_id":6398,"target_proposition":6399,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":6407,"indexable":702},978,"195180","We need to put an end to it and I will.",5545.56,5549.16,"promises to put an end to inefficiency ('e eu darei').",{"idx":6409,"utterance_id":6410,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6411,"start_s":6412,"end_s":6413,"word_count":284,"indexable":74},979,"195181","Candidate, I would also like to revisit a topic that you, right at the start of the interview—because you used a term, \"ecoxitas\", to refer to environmental defenders, those of us involved in environmental protection.",5552.26,5566.76,{"idx":6415,"utterance_id":6416,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6417,"start_s":6418,"end_s":6419,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},980,"195182","I wanted to ask, Mr. President, would you take Brazil out of the Paris Agreement?",5566.98,5571.48,{"idx":6421,"utterance_id":6422,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6423,"start_s":6424,"end_s":6425,"word_count":325,"indexable":74},981,"195183","And how would that affect, for instance, the international agreements Brazil is making — for example with the European Union — since we already face many problems with our agribusiness exports precisely because of criticisms of how we care for the environment?",5572.14,5588.38,{"idx":6427,"utterance_id":6428,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6429,"start_s":6430,"end_s":6431,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},982,"195184","Would you take Brazil out of the Paris Agreement?",5588.4,5590.2,{"idx":6433,"utterance_id":6434,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6435,"start_s":6436,"end_s":6437,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},983,"195185","And how would you go about doing that?",5590.3,5591.42,{"idx":6439,"utterance_id":6440,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6441,"start_s":6442,"end_s":6443,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},984,"195186","How would they react?",5591.78,5592.5,{"idx":6445,"utterance_id":6446,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6447,"start_s":6448,"end_s":6449,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},985,"195187","The consequences that would come, for example, from the European Union.",5592.88,5595.82,{"idx":6451,"utterance_id":6452,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6453,"start_s":6454,"end_s":6455,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":6456,"target_proposition":6457,"stance":1302,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":6458,"indexable":702},986,"195188","Gustavo, I would not take Brazil out of the Paris Agreement.",5597.5,5601.88,"7a2f204d-6be8-4914-b9c1-d4571dcbc6c4","withdraw Brazil from the Paris Agreement","responds directly: 'eu não tiraria o Brasil do Acordo de Paris'.",{"idx":6460,"utterance_id":6461,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6462,"start_s":6463,"end_s":6464,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":6465,"target_proposition":6466,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":6467,"indexable":702},987,"195189","In my opinion, we have adequate environmental legislation; it needs to be more objective.",5602.84,5610.18,"a0e450ed-0732-4b4b-a35c-ae75123ce939","make environmental legislation more objective","says the legislation is adequate but needs to be more objective.",{"idx":6469,"utterance_id":6470,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6471,"start_s":6472,"end_s":6473,"word_count":266,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":6474,"target_proposition":6475,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":6476,"indexable":702},988,"195190","And I did that in my government, because today, to carry a medium-sized project forward — you don't even need to be large — you will have to hire an environmental consultancy and sometimes pay millions.",5611.02,5625.9,"5289fc17-bcc7-4372-9804-72663f7d125b","speed up environmental permitting to accelerate concessions","claims action was taken in government to reduce licensing costs.",{"idx":6478,"utterance_id":6479,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6480,"start_s":6481,"end_s":6482,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},989,"195191","It seems to me that it's only benefiting...",5626.64,5628.12,{"idx":6484,"utterance_id":6485,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6486,"start_s":6487,"end_s":6488,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},990,"195192","only for bureaucratic intermediaries, let's say.",5628.24,5631.14,{"idx":6490,"utterance_id":6491,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6492,"start_s":6493,"end_s":6494,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},991,"195193","There are success stories worldwide of sustainable development — social and economic.",5632.08,5640.24,{"idx":6496,"utterance_id":6497,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6498,"start_s":6499,"end_s":6500,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},992,"195194","Australia, Canada and Brazil have this legislation.",5640.48,5646.7,{"idx":6502,"utterance_id":6503,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6504,"start_s":6505,"end_s":6506,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":6507,"target_proposition":6508,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":808,"rationale":6509,"indexable":702},993,"195195","which needs to be interpreted and analyzed with greater objectivity, corrected in some points, and for us to show the whole world that the products from our agribusiness are produced with environmental responsibility.",5647.12,5667.02,"ba200b40-d442-4a15-879b-076b37136c7c","make enforcement of environmental legislation more objective and demonstrable","argues for correcting interpretation and demonstrating the sustainability of agribusiness.",{"idx":6511,"utterance_id":6512,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6513,"start_s":6514,"end_s":6515,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},994,"195196","I saw this with coffee.",5667.92,5669.5,{"idx":6517,"utterance_id":6518,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6519,"start_s":6520,"end_s":6521,"word_count":228,"indexable":74},995,"195197","I participated actively; more than 99% of the producers in my state have coffee certified as being produced in an environmentally sustainable way and not through deforestation.",5670.62,5689,{"idx":6523,"utterance_id":6524,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6525,"start_s":6526,"end_s":6527,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},996,"195198","They even receive delegations from around the world to prove that this coffee that is exported is... environmentally responsible.",5689.56,5701.38,{"idx":6529,"utterance_id":6530,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6531,"start_s":6532,"end_s":6533,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":6534,"topic_label":6535,"target_id":6536,"target_proposition":6537,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":6538,"indexable":74},997,"195199","So Brazil needs to sell itself better.",5701.88,5704.4,"politica-fiscal-comercio-exterior","Fiscal Policy \u002F Foreign Trade","07bfaa8a-3297-4172-a967-f01a16fc5e4f","promote internationally the sustainability of Brazilian agribusiness","says Brazil needs to sell itself better and showcase responsible products.",{"idx":6540,"utterance_id":6541,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6542,"start_s":6543,"end_s":6544,"word_count":272,"indexable":74},998,"195200","It seems to me we have a level of preservation here that no other country has, yet the news often focuses only on the negative and hardly shows the positive.",5704.94,5720.48,{"idx":6546,"utterance_id":6547,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6548,"start_s":6549,"end_s":6550,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},999,"195201","It is perfectly possible to pursue development.",5720.94,5725.2,{"idx":6552,"utterance_id":6553,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6554,"start_s":6555,"end_s":6556,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":6557,"target_proposition":6558,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":6559,"indexable":702},1000,"195202","a thriving agriculture, a thriving industry and also environmental preservation.",5726,5732.02,"d0958e7e-0873-4505-a354-7c152b28653e","promote development with environmental responsibility","advocates coexistence of a thriving agriculture\u002Findustry and environmental preservation.",{"idx":6561,"utterance_id":6562,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6563,"start_s":6564,"end_s":6565,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1001,"195203","They complement each other.",5732.12,5733.44,{"idx":6567,"utterance_id":6568,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6569,"start_s":6570,"end_s":6571,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1002,"195204","The poorest countries are the ones destroying the environment the most.",5734,5738.82,{"idx":6573,"utterance_id":6574,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6575,"start_s":6576,"end_s":6577,"word_count":228,"indexable":74},1003,"195205","A person doesn't even have access to gas to cook food; they go and cut vegetation, pollute the water because there is no sewage treatment.",5739.32,5749.02,{"idx":6579,"utterance_id":6580,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6581,"start_s":6582,"end_s":6583,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1004,"195206","So the two go hand in hand and Brazil hasn't been able to.",5749.4,5753.76,{"idx":6585,"utterance_id":6586,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6587,"start_s":6588,"end_s":6589,"word_count":172,"topic_slug":6590,"topic_label":6591,"target_id":6592,"target_proposition":6593,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":6594,"indexable":702},1005,"195207","We have empowered many NGOs in ways that are totally incompatible with social and economic development.",5754.12,5763.18,"sociedade-civil-e-ongs","Civil Society and NGOs","1993f257-a792-4d8f-8618-a8084cef6984","oversee and control public transfers to NGOs","criticizes the proliferation of NGOs that improperly receive public funds.",{"idx":6596,"utterance_id":6597,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6598,"start_s":6599,"end_s":6600,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},1006,"195208","They are people who want to put money in their pockets, want to make noise and not see this country succeed, because they live off misery.",5763.24,5771.38,{"idx":6602,"utterance_id":6603,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6604,"start_s":6605,"end_s":6606,"word_count":15,"indexable":74},1007,"195209","When President Jair Bolsonaro was in office, he also talked a lot about NGOs; he created a somewhat belligerent climate with NGOs that operated, for example, in the Amazon region.",5773.86,5785.42,{"idx":6608,"utterance_id":6609,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6610,"start_s":6611,"end_s":6612,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},1008,"195210","But that ended up creating a very bad image internationally for Brazil and brought consequences.",5785.7,5791.84,{"idx":6614,"utterance_id":6615,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6616,"start_s":6617,"end_s":6618,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1009,"195211","Aren't you concerned about that?",5791.9,5793.16,{"idx":6620,"utterance_id":6621,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6622,"start_s":6623,"end_s":6624,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1010,"195212","Will you pick a fight with NGOs, will you want NGOs to leave the country?",5793.42,5797.08,{"idx":6626,"utterance_id":6627,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6628,"start_s":6629,"end_s":6630,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},1011,"195213","And as a result... portray an image that your government is not environmentally responsible?",5797.42,5803.64,{"idx":6632,"utterance_id":6633,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6634,"start_s":6635,"end_s":6636,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":6590,"topic_label":6591,"target_id":6592,"target_proposition":6593,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":6637,"indexable":702},1012,"195214","Gustavo, I have nothing against serious NGOs that are transparent and accountable, with competent people who do good work.",5805.34,5814.54,"says he has nothing against serious NGOs, defends separating the 'joio do trigo'.",{"idx":6639,"utterance_id":6640,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6641,"start_s":6642,"end_s":6643,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1013,"195215","I know several.",5814.68,5815.88,{"idx":6645,"utterance_id":6646,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6647,"start_s":6648,"end_s":6649,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1014,"195216","So it's about separating the wheat from the chaff.",5816.6,5818.52,{"idx":6651,"utterance_id":6652,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6653,"start_s":6654,"end_s":6655,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1015,"195217","Now what we saw in Brazil was a proliferation of NGOs to receive public funds.",5819.02,5825.12,{"idx":6657,"utterance_id":6658,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6659,"start_s":6660,"end_s":6661,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1016,"195218","It became a way of life.",5825.2,5827.34,{"idx":6663,"utterance_id":6664,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6665,"start_s":6666,"end_s":6667,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},1017,"195219","Especially some linked to the environment, to the social area; it's good only for the NGO manager and not for those who should be served.",5828,5840.62,{"idx":6669,"utterance_id":6670,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6671,"start_s":6672,"end_s":6673,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1018,"195220","I saw this clearly in the Mariana tragedy.",5841,5844.42,{"idx":6675,"utterance_id":6676,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6677,"start_s":6678,"end_s":6679,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1019,"195221","The Mariana tragedy, remember, occurred in 2015; it was before my government.",5845.64,5850.04,{"idx":6681,"utterance_id":6682,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6683,"start_s":6684,"end_s":6685,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":6686,"topic_label":6687,"target_id":6688,"target_proposition":6689,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":6690,"indexable":702},1020,"195222","The money that the company applied did not reach the affected people.",5850.78,5856.32,"responsabilizacao-empresarial","Corporate Accountability","fa8f6d43-45ac-4544-b784-4a4b23854c67","ensure reparations reach those directly affected","states that money from the tragedy did not reach those affected (calls for correction).",{"idx":6692,"utterance_id":6693,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6694,"start_s":6695,"end_s":6696,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1021,"195223","It went only to consultancies, to technical analyses, to NGOs.",5856.88,5861.84,{"idx":6698,"utterance_id":6699,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6700,"start_s":6701,"end_s":6702,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1022,"195224","The farmer who was left there unable to produce received nothing.",5862.5,5866.4,{"idx":6704,"utterance_id":6705,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6706,"start_s":6707,"end_s":6708,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1023,"195225","The fisherman who was left there unable to fish received nothing.",5867.22,5870.66,{"idx":6710,"utterance_id":6711,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6712,"start_s":6713,"end_s":6714,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1024,"195226","But the NGOs and consultancies put millions and millions into their coffers.",5871.12,5876.78,{"idx":6716,"utterance_id":6717,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6718,"start_s":6719,"end_s":6720,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":6686,"topic_label":6687,"target_id":6721,"target_proposition":6722,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":6723,"indexable":702},1025,"195227","So much so that in Brumadinho I did exactly the opposite.",5877.16,5880.78,"8ef92de4-01e2-43c2-89fa-359fc444ab95","allocate compensations to public works and local investments","says that in Brumadinho he allocated resources to public works 'carimbadas'.",{"idx":6725,"utterance_id":6726,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6727,"start_s":6728,"end_s":6729,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1026,"195228","I said that all the funds",5881.12,5882.76,{"idx":1518,"utterance_id":6731,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6732,"start_s":6733,"end_s":6734,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},"195229","would be invested in public works, all earmarked so that no one profits.",5883.14,5889.12,{"idx":6736,"utterance_id":6737,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6738,"start_s":6739,"end_s":6740,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1028,"195230","And guess what happened?",5889.4,5890.82,{"idx":6742,"utterance_id":6743,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6744,"start_s":6745,"end_s":6746,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1029,"195231","The NGOs complained.",5890.98,5892.1,{"idx":6748,"utterance_id":6749,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6750,"start_s":6751,"end_s":6752,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},1030,"195232","\"Ah, that agreement was bad because it wasn't money for the NGO, but it was money for the miner to have better healthcare, to have better schools.\"",5892.12,5901.62,{"idx":6754,"utterance_id":6755,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6756,"start_s":6757,"end_s":6758,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1031,"195233","to have better roads.",5902.02,5903.54,{"idx":6760,"utterance_id":6761,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6762,"start_s":6763,"end_s":6764,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1032,"195234","So we have to separate the wheat from the chaff.",5904.06,5906.06,{"idx":6766,"utterance_id":6767,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6768,"start_s":6769,"end_s":6770,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1033,"195235","The only thing I fear in life is generalizing.",5906.12,5909.5,{"idx":6772,"utterance_id":6773,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6774,"start_s":6775,"end_s":6776,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1034,"195236","Even in the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) there are good people, as incredible as it may seem.",5909.66,5912.84,{"idx":6778,"utterance_id":6779,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6780,"start_s":6781,"end_s":6782,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},1035,"195237","Speaking of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), you already gave me an opening for my next question.",5915.5,5920.14,{"idx":6784,"utterance_id":6785,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6786,"start_s":6787,"end_s":6788,"word_count":343,"topic_slug":6095,"topic_label":6096,"target_id":6789,"target_proposition":6790,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":6791,"indexable":74},1036,"195238","Because in the Jornal Nacional hearing, you said you would like to grant amnesty to those involved in January 8, or if you cannot grant amnesty to those involved in January 8, at least give these people a fair trial, a trial that is not political.",5920.16,5935.92,"47bae203-200c-4c17-b0cc-2dc01182a898","grant broad amnesty to participants of the January 8 events","reports that the interviewee spoke of granting amnesty or a fair trial (news report).",{"idx":1545,"utterance_id":6793,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6794,"start_s":6795,"end_s":6796,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},"195239","But there are two problems with that.",5936.32,5937.98,{"idx":6798,"utterance_id":6799,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6800,"start_s":6801,"end_s":6802,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":6803,"topic_label":6804,"target_id":6805,"target_proposition":6806,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":6807,"indexable":702},1038,"195240","On amnesty, the ministers of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) have already pointed out that they would consider amnesty for crimes of a coup d'état unconstitutional, based on clauses 43 and 44 of Article 5 of the Constitution.",5938.14,5952.6,"direitos-civis","Civil rights","791fc7df-589d-4ec0-9d2e-782becbe3379","have the competent body consider the constitutionality of amnesties","reports the STF's position that amnesty is unconstitutional (legal fact).",{"idx":6809,"utterance_id":6810,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6811,"start_s":6812,"end_s":6813,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},1039,"195241","On the other hand, deciding who will judge or re-judge those involved in January 8 is also not a presidential prerogative.",5953,5962.78,{"idx":6815,"utterance_id":6816,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6817,"start_s":6818,"end_s":6819,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":6820,"topic_label":6821,"target_id":6822,"target_proposition":6823,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":6824,"indexable":702},1040,"195242","The President of the Republic cannot come out and say that this trial doesn't count now or that it will be a different trial.",5962.82,5968.58,"separacao-de-poderes","Separation of Powers","8964bde8-7744-4544-a8c7-31a348b32949","ensure independence between branches and respect for voters' representation","states that the president cannot invalidate court rulings (constitutional description).",{"idx":6826,"utterance_id":6827,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6828,"start_s":6829,"end_s":6830,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},1041,"195243","A trial, for example, at first instance (in a lower court), which is one of the arguments of many of the lawyers for those involved on January 8.",5968.6,5975.82,{"idx":6832,"utterance_id":6833,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6834,"start_s":6835,"end_s":6836,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1042,"195244","So, I wanted to ask you, what is the practical solution for this impact?",5976.14,5980.46,{"idx":6838,"utterance_id":6839,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6840,"start_s":6841,"end_s":6842,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1043,"195245","The STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) is already saying that amnesty is unconstitutional.",5980.56,5983.1,{"idx":6844,"utterance_id":6845,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6846,"start_s":6847,"end_s":6848,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},1044,"195246","without the Presidency of the Republic being able, as you proposed, to give a fair trial to these people.",5983.7,5989.66,{"idx":6850,"utterance_id":6851,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6852,"start_s":6853,"end_s":6854,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1045,"195247","What practical solution?",5989.9,5991.1,{"idx":6856,"utterance_id":6857,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6858,"start_s":6859,"end_s":6860,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":6095,"topic_label":6096,"target_id":6861,"target_proposition":6862,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":5816,"rationale":6863,"indexable":74},1046,"195248","And to finish the question, would you disobey an order from the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), as, for example, candidate Renan Santos de Missão has said?",5991.76,6000.4,"c0598600-baab-4cd9-98a1-7aae8713902b","disobey orders of the STF","asks whether the candidate would disobey orders from the STF (questioning about an action).",{"idx":6865,"utterance_id":6866,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6867,"start_s":6868,"end_s":6869,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1047,"195249","What would you do?",6000.58,6001.08,{"idx":6871,"utterance_id":6872,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6873,"start_s":6874,"end_s":6875,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":1275,"topic_label":1276,"target_id":6876,"target_proposition":6877,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":6878,"indexable":702},1048,"195250","Oh Gustavo, we are going to have a renewal in the Senate, certainly a more courageous Senate.",6003.6,6013.36,"3c881eaf-7141-43af-8c0f-b76361afd865","elect more qualified senators and deputies","says there will be renewal in the Senate by senators 'mais corajosos'.",{"idx":6880,"utterance_id":6881,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6882,"start_s":6883,"end_s":6884,"word_count":250,"topic_slug":6885,"topic_label":6886,"target_id":6887,"target_proposition":6888,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":808,"rationale":6889,"indexable":702},1049,"195251","A President of the Senate who isn't sold out like the current one, who is a disgrace for the country as well, who went there to sample Macallan whisky with the crook banker Vorcaro.",6014.02,6029.84,"etica-e-integridade-publica","Ethics and Public Integrity","e92793ec-f075-48f3-a478-6272a188b51d","demand ethics and probity in the Senate","criticizes the president of the Senate and calls for a change in ethical conduct.",{"idx":6891,"utterance_id":6892,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6893,"start_s":6894,"end_s":6895,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1050,"195252","And I am very confident in that change.",6029.86,6034.88,{"idx":6897,"utterance_id":6898,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6899,"start_s":6900,"end_s":6901,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":6902,"topic_label":6903,"target_id":6904,"target_proposition":6905,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":6906,"indexable":74},1051,"195253","Now I accept the judicial decision.",6035.44,6037.76,"poder-judiciario-e-separacao-de-poderes","Judiciary & Separation of Powers","3d8e0209-ea96-4a3d-99a9-b1b3afbe82da","respect STF decisions and hold conspirators accountable","states explicitly: 'a decisão judicial eu acato'.",{"idx":6908,"utterance_id":6909,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6910,"start_s":6911,"end_s":6912,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":6913,"topic_label":6914,"target_id":6915,"target_proposition":6916,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":6917,"indexable":74},1052,"195254","Now I will, as president, call for demonstrations.",6038.6,6042.74,"direito-de-manifestacao","Freedom of Assembly","ca7058b4-3419-4f46-bc4c-a140a95b3734","call for street demonstrations","Promises to 'convocar como presidente manifestações' against ministers.",{"idx":6919,"utterance_id":6920,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6921,"start_s":6922,"end_s":6923,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1053,"195255","to be able to show Brazilians' dissatisfaction with regard to those ministers who are there as well.",6043.36,6050.42,{"idx":6925,"utterance_id":6926,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6927,"start_s":6928,"end_s":6929,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1054,"195256","Is what we watched yesterday normal?",6051.24,6054.08,{"idx":6931,"utterance_id":6932,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6933,"start_s":6934,"end_s":6935,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":6095,"topic_label":6096,"target_id":6936,"target_proposition":6937,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":6938,"indexable":702},1055,"195257","A minister of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) giving legal advice to a criminal?",6055.18,6060.84,"48f52c81-4943-41dd-b2b3-2d40a960006d","apply administrative consequences and remove involved magistrates","Criticizes a Supreme Court minister for advising a 'bandido' and calls for punishment.",{"idx":6940,"utterance_id":6941,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6942,"start_s":6943,"end_s":6944,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1056,"195258","There's a lack of shame there.",6063.06,6065.62,{"idx":6946,"utterance_id":6947,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6948,"start_s":6949,"end_s":6950,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":6095,"topic_label":6096,"target_id":6951,"target_proposition":6952,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":5347,"rationale":6953,"indexable":702},1057,"195259","In any serious country, that minister would already be expelled from the system or... very likely in a prison cell.",6066,6077.06,"8e501299-ca6e-4cfe-967c-bb8a38025b04","remove and hold magistrates accountable for involvement in child sexual abuse and financial irregularities","Says that, in other countries, a minister would be expelled or imprisoned (calls for punishment).",{"idx":6955,"utterance_id":6956,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6957,"start_s":6958,"end_s":6959,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1058,"195260","And here he still thinks he's the owner of the place.",6078.04,6081.6,{"idx":6961,"utterance_id":6962,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6963,"start_s":6964,"end_s":6965,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1059,"195261","They are the untouchables, this is an aberration.",6083.18,6087.2,{"idx":6967,"utterance_id":6968,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6969,"start_s":6970,"end_s":6971,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1060,"195262","It will be corrected.",6087.42,6088.68,{"idx":6973,"utterance_id":6974,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6975,"start_s":6976,"end_s":6977,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1061,"195263","This stone in the shoe is bothering all Brazilians.",6089.24,6094.06,{"idx":6979,"utterance_id":6980,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6981,"start_s":6982,"end_s":6983,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1062,"195264","It can't be tolerated.",6094.64,6096.36,{"idx":6985,"utterance_id":6986,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6987,"start_s":6988,"end_s":6989,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1063,"195265","I'm even afraid.",6097.26,6098.22,{"idx":6991,"utterance_id":6992,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":6993,"start_s":6994,"end_s":6995,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":6996,"topic_label":6997,"target_id":6998,"target_proposition":6999,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":7000,"indexable":702},1064,"195266","Not that I am — I'm a democrat, I follow the law — that this could at some point have more serious consequences.",6098.8,6106.38,"democracia-e-discurso","Democracy and Discourse","93715d17-3a5f-4deb-bed2-4ac33a390c23","respect the democratic regime and the law","Says he is a democrat and will follow the law, despite criticisms of the ministers.",{"idx":7002,"utterance_id":7003,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7004,"start_s":7005,"end_s":7006,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1065,"195267","Because Brazilians' dissatisfaction is growing.",6106.94,6110.14,{"idx":7008,"utterance_id":7009,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7010,"start_s":7011,"end_s":7012,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1066,"195268","And look, Brazilians are a peaceful people.",6110.48,6112.78,{"idx":7014,"utterance_id":7015,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7016,"start_s":7017,"end_s":7018,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1067,"195269","But we will witness demonstrations.",6113.68,6117.18,{"idx":7020,"utterance_id":7021,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7022,"start_s":7023,"end_s":7024,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1068,"195270","The indignation is very great.",6117.66,6120.04,{"idx":7026,"utterance_id":7027,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7028,"start_s":7029,"end_s":7030,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1069,"195271","I say that only death has no solution.",6120.76,6123.72,{"idx":7032,"utterance_id":7033,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7034,"start_s":7035,"end_s":7036,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":6095,"topic_label":6096,"target_id":7037,"target_proposition":7038,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":7039,"indexable":74},1070,"195272","They should make an honorable exit.",6125.12,6128.12,"0333c5ff-4195-4fa3-88f0-f5fe19d5d667","grant amnesty to STF ministers","Suggests 'saída honrosa' and then admits that an amnesty could be appropriate so they leave.",{"idx":7041,"utterance_id":7042,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7043,"start_s":7044,"end_s":7045,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":6095,"topic_label":6096,"target_id":7046,"target_proposition":7047,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":7048,"indexable":74},1071,"195273","Return the money and move to another country.",6128.46,6131.2,"39091153-be9a-451d-a7bb-99ca1d4afed4","demand return of funds and removal of ministers","Asks that they return the money and leave the country (condition for an honorable exit).",{"idx":7050,"utterance_id":7051,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7052,"start_s":7053,"end_s":7054,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1072,"195274","I think an amnesty would be appropriate for them, yes.",6132.04,6134.36,{"idx":7056,"utterance_id":7057,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7058,"start_s":7059,"end_s":7060,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1073,"195275","For those Supreme Court ministers I'm talking about.",6135.76,6138.54,{"idx":7062,"utterance_id":7063,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7064,"start_s":7065,"end_s":7066,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1074,"195276","For them to leave, because they are a cancer on our society.",6139.76,6143.7,{"idx":7068,"utterance_id":7069,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7070,"start_s":7071,"end_s":7072,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},1075,"195277","A disgrace for the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), which has serious people, and also for Brazil.",6143.72,6149.02,{"idx":7074,"utterance_id":7075,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7076,"start_s":7077,"end_s":7078,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},1076,"195278","Brazil abroad, if you follow the transparency rankings, the perception of corruption, it has only gotten worse.",6149.48,6157.44,{"idx":7080,"utterance_id":7081,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7082,"start_s":7083,"end_s":7084,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1077,"195279","and very much because of these untouchables from Brasília.",6157.8,6161.48,{"idx":7086,"utterance_id":7087,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7088,"start_s":7089,"end_s":7090,"word_count":278,"indexable":74},1078,"195280","Gustavo, I wanted to thank you very much for your participation, Camila had to leave early because she had another live program to do afterwards, if you want to make any final comment, and thank you very much there.",6162.36,6173.7,{"idx":7092,"utterance_id":7093,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7094,"start_s":7095,"end_s":7096,"word_count":32,"indexable":74},1079,"195281","No, I wanted to thank, thank candidate Zema, who is in this campaign there, trying for the presidency of the Republic, thank Inteligência Limitada, thank you all, and just to finish... which I only understood.",6175.7,6188.52,{"idx":7098,"utterance_id":7099,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7100,"start_s":7101,"end_s":7102,"word_count":337,"topic_slug":6913,"topic_label":6914,"target_id":6915,"target_proposition":6916,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":7103,"indexable":702},1080,"195282","So, if the Supreme Court decides that the amnesty is not valid, the solution is to call demonstrations, but we don't have much credibility — Bolsonaro supporters have been calling demonstrations for years without effect — I still don't understand what the practical solution would be for the amnesty to die.",6189.9,6205.4,"Proposes calling demonstrations if the STF invalidates amnesty (political strategy).",{"idx":7105,"utterance_id":7106,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7107,"start_s":7108,"end_s":7109,"word_count":228,"topic_slug":6095,"topic_label":6096,"target_id":7110,"target_proposition":7111,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":7112,"indexable":702},1081,"195283","Assuming I take office, I'll go after all the senators so we can impeach them, which those ministers already more than deserve, I will not stay quiet, no.",6205.42,6216.7,"080cf9f8-6739-421f-b796-bdb23970e3c6","promote impeachment of STF ministers","Declares an intention to pursue impeachment of ministers if he assumes office.",{"idx":7114,"utterance_id":7115,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7116,"start_s":7117,"end_s":7118,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":6996,"topic_label":6997,"target_id":6998,"target_proposition":6999,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":7119,"indexable":702},1082,"195284","But I will not disrespect the law or the democratic regime.",6217.18,6222.62,"Affirms he will not disrespect the law or the democratic regime.",{"idx":7121,"utterance_id":7122,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7123,"start_s":7124,"end_s":7125,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1083,"195285","But their lives will become a living hell.",6223.24,6225.64,{"idx":7127,"utterance_id":7128,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7129,"start_s":7130,"end_s":7131,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1084,"195286","What did Lula do from yesterday to today?",6225.66,6227.7,{"idx":7133,"utterance_id":7134,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7135,"start_s":7136,"end_s":7137,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1085,"195287","Did you see him go on TV, speak out, and punish the guilty?",6227.72,6232.96,{"idx":7139,"utterance_id":7140,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7141,"start_s":7142,"end_s":7143,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1086,"195288","He's there quiet.",6232.98,6234.44,{"idx":7145,"utterance_id":7146,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7147,"start_s":7148,"end_s":7149,"word_count":190,"indexable":74},1087,"195289","He's one of those involved, one of those who benefit from those untouchables, those corrupt people who are there in the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal).",6235.14,6243.36,{"idx":7151,"utterance_id":7152,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7153,"start_s":7154,"end_s":7155,"word_count":103,"topic_slug":7156,"topic_label":7157,"target_id":7158,"target_proposition":7159,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7160,"indexable":74},1088,"195290","I would go on TV.",6243.78,6244.82,"comunicacao-governamental","Government Communication","72a9c4b2-ba81-4dfa-924a-3eb4b411c7bd","use social media to spread accusations against the left-wing party and the government","Says he would go on TV and do everything to punish the guilty (public action).",{"idx":7162,"utterance_id":7163,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7164,"start_s":7165,"end_s":7166,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1089,"195291","I would do everything possible to punish.",6245.98,6249.86,{"idx":7168,"utterance_id":7169,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7170,"start_s":7171,"end_s":7172,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1090,"195292","And today we have an atmosphere of impunity.",6250.22,6252.4,{"idx":7174,"utterance_id":7175,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7176,"start_s":7177,"end_s":7178,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},1091,"195293","In Minas, in my government, we did not have corruption, we did not have scandal.",6252.86,6257.14,{"idx":7180,"utterance_id":7181,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7182,"start_s":7183,"end_s":7184,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1092,"195294","Because I made it very clear, I am here to do the right thing and to fight the wrong.",6257.82,6262.26,{"idx":7186,"utterance_id":7187,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7188,"start_s":7189,"end_s":7190,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1093,"195295","What day did we have Lula doing that?",6262.28,6265.72,{"idx":7192,"utterance_id":7193,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7194,"start_s":7195,"end_s":7196,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1094,"195296","There was Operation Rejeito, right, candidate?",6265.74,6270.92,{"idx":7198,"utterance_id":7199,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7200,"start_s":7201,"end_s":7202,"word_count":349,"indexable":74},1095,"195297","Operation Rejeito was perhaps one of the corruption scandals of your government there, where you even fired people, dismissed those involved, fought it when the information reached you, but you can't say there were no corruption scandals in the Zé de Minas government.",6271.42,6288.5,{"idx":7204,"utterance_id":7205,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7206,"start_s":7207,"end_s":7208,"word_count":190,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":7209,"target_proposition":7210,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":7211,"indexable":702},1096,"195298","I had that disappointment and I want those involved who destroyed the environment, put money in their pockets, to rot in prison.",6289.5,6300.16,"8530e6db-4435-4365-b71f-5d9b4f78c8e6","investigate and punish environmental crimes committed by companies","Says he wants those involved in environmental destruction to 'morfem na cadeia'.",{"idx":7213,"utterance_id":7214,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7215,"start_s":7216,"end_s":7217,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":2179,"topic_label":2180,"target_id":2181,"target_proposition":2182,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7218,"indexable":702},1097,"195299","I want to and am contributing to the investigation as much as possible.",6300.68,6305.9,"Says he will contribute and make himself available for investigations (affirmative action).",{"idx":7220,"utterance_id":7221,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7222,"start_s":7223,"end_s":7224,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":6095,"topic_label":6096,"target_id":7225,"target_proposition":7226,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":7227,"indexable":702},1098,"195300","I've already said, if I can testify against that mafia that installed itself there, including people from the National Mining Agency, I'm totally available.",6306.66,6318.22,"bf4b4a36-fbf9-4ba2-95f3-ce4a9f2d5515","use special investigative methods and international cooperation against organized crime","Offers availability to testify against the 'máfia' installed (concrete action).",{"idx":7229,"utterance_id":7230,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7231,"start_s":7232,"end_s":7233,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1099,"195301","A posture exactly the opposite of Lula's, who is there quiet.",6319.08,6324.42,{"idx":7235,"utterance_id":7236,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7237,"start_s":7238,"end_s":7239,"word_count":143,"topic_slug":35,"topic_label":31,"target_id":7240,"target_proposition":7241,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":7242,"indexable":702},1100,"195302","I want everything that's wrong to be investigated and exemplary punishment.",6324.84,6328.54,"1fdeca1d-0df9-4ccb-afe3-abf1fec85936","investigate and punish illicit practices with exemplary penalties","Demands investigation and exemplary punishment for everything that is wrong.",{"idx":7244,"utterance_id":7245,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7246,"start_s":7247,"end_s":7248,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1101,"195303","That's the difference.",6328.7,6329.82,{"idx":7250,"utterance_id":7251,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7252,"start_s":7253,"end_s":7254,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1102,"195304","Thank you very much, then.",6329.84,6333.04,{"idx":7256,"utterance_id":7257,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7258,"start_s":7259,"end_s":7260,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1103,"195305","Thank you, Vilela, thank you, governor, and good rest of the campaign and presidency of the Republic.",6333.06,6340.46,{"idx":7262,"utterance_id":7263,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7264,"start_s":7265,"end_s":7266,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1104,"195306","Thanks.",6341.38,6341.66,{"idx":7268,"utterance_id":7269,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7270,"start_s":7271,"end_s":7272,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1105,"195307","Thank you very much.",6342.2,6342.94,{"idx":7274,"utterance_id":7275,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7276,"start_s":7277,"end_s":7278,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1106,"195308","Let's go to the chat questions, Romer.",6343.2,6345.48,{"idx":7280,"utterance_id":7281,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7282,"start_s":7283,"end_s":7284,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1107,"195309","And then we have two more expert questions to finish.",6345.58,6348.54,{"idx":7286,"utterance_id":7287,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7288,"start_s":7289,"end_s":7290,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1108,"195310","We're already at the time limit.",6348.56,6350.56,{"idx":7292,"utterance_id":7293,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":2421,"start_s":7294,"end_s":7295,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1109,"195311",6350.58,6350.82,{"idx":7297,"utterance_id":7298,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7299,"start_s":7300,"end_s":7301,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1110,"195312","So let's go.",6350.9,6351.34,{"idx":7303,"utterance_id":7304,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7305,"start_s":7306,"end_s":7307,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1111,"195313","Here's the first question from PH Souza.",6351.48,6353.54,{"idx":7309,"utterance_id":7310,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7311,"start_s":7312,"end_s":7313,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1112,"195314","He's asking the following.",6353.56,6354.6,{"idx":7315,"utterance_id":7316,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7317,"start_s":7318,"end_s":7319,"word_count":244,"topic_slug":7320,"topic_label":7321,"target_id":7322,"target_proposition":7323,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":7324,"indexable":702},1113,"195315","Zema, how do you explain the State of Minas Gerais' debt jumping from 114 billion in 2019 to more than 200 billion in debt during your term?",6354.74,6364.1,"politica-energetica-financas-publicas","Energy & Public Finance","f5cc4e88-3b6b-477d-bae5-841d6c78d449","account for the increase in the state's public debt","Asks for an explanation about the state's jump in debt.",{"idx":7326,"utterance_id":7327,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7328,"start_s":7329,"end_s":7330,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7333,"target_proposition":7334,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":7335,"indexable":702},1114,"195316","Well, debt is measured by capacity to pay.",6365.46,6369.64,"financas-municipais","Municipal Finance","35cc4c60-77d7-46d5-8d3a-fcf3ba5baf3f","evaluate public debt by capacity to pay","States that debt is measured by the capacity to pay (evaluation criterion).",{"idx":7337,"utterance_id":7338,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7339,"start_s":7340,"end_s":7341,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":7342,"topic_label":7343,"target_id":7344,"target_proposition":7345,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":7346,"indexable":702},1115,"195317","Brazil has the Fiscal Responsibility Law.",6370.34,6373.66,"responsabilidade-fiscal","Fiscal Responsibility","2b57dfdb-7f67-42fd-beca-29b8c4911f28","comply with the Fiscal Responsibility Law in state public management","Declares the existence and application of the LRF as a fiscal reference.",{"idx":7348,"utterance_id":7349,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7350,"start_s":7351,"end_s":7352,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7353,"target_proposition":7354,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":7355,"indexable":702},1116,"195318","According to the criteria of the Fiscal Responsibility Law, Minas Gerais' debt fell by 21% of net current revenue.",6374.72,6384.92,"004413c8-814d-4c53-b1f4-01605fd99d69","reduce Minas Gerais state debt","Cites a percentage reduction in debt according to LRF criteria.",{"idx":7357,"utterance_id":7358,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7359,"start_s":7360,"end_s":7361,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1117,"195319","It's there for everyone to 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reduction.",{"idx":7378,"utterance_id":7379,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7380,"start_s":7381,"end_s":7382,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7383,"target_proposition":7384,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":5816,"rationale":7385,"indexable":74},1120,"195322","A debt... that for Minas used to be unpayable, today is payable.",6396.22,6401.72,"b4b3fd0a-384e-4e6e-8fff-ccbcc280e7f9","make the state's debt sustainable and payable","Says a debt that was unpayable is now payable, without proposing an explicit action.",{"idx":7387,"utterance_id":7388,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7389,"start_s":7390,"end_s":7391,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7392,"target_proposition":7393,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":7394,"indexable":702},1121,"195323","And in my government, five years of surplus, that is, revenue greater than expenditure.",6402.48,6411.58,"c1d01a25-41b1-4b6a-94ff-141873ac2828","ensure responsible fiscal management and transparency in state public accounts","Claims five years of surplus in his government (defense of track record).",{"idx":7396,"utterance_id":7397,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7398,"start_s":7399,"end_s":7400,"word_count":212,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7392,"target_proposition":7393,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7401,"indexable":702},1122,"195324","Those five years of balanced accounts followed six years of PT and PSDB government, which had deficits, where more was spent than was earned.",6412.72,6424.32,"Contrasts his government's surplus with deficits of previous administrations.",{"idx":7403,"utterance_id":7404,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7405,"start_s":7406,"end_s":7407,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7408,"target_proposition":7409,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":7410,"indexable":702},1123,"195325","Everything Minas pays is rigorously up to date.",6426.06,6430.88,"4fcf93df-d585-4ccb-a480-85281ee7dd04","honor payments and keep state obligations current","Says that everything Minas pays is strictly up to date.",{"idx":7412,"utterance_id":7413,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7414,"start_s":7415,"end_s":7416,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1124,"195326","For example, just ask the civil servants.",6431.68,6434.88,{"idx":7418,"utterance_id":7419,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7420,"start_s":7421,"end_s":7422,"word_count":201,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7423,"target_proposition":7424,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":7425,"indexable":702},1125,"195327","For example, just ask the 853 mayors who received what the PT didn't make in transfers, criminally, suppliers.",6435.34,6448.08,"84fceac0-0d4c-4369-ad8a-d3254f69e49f","regularly make due transfers to municipalities and suppliers","Claims to have made transfers that, he says, the previous government did not make.",{"idx":7427,"utterance_id":7428,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7429,"start_s":7430,"end_s":7431,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7432,"target_proposition":7433,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7434,"indexable":74},1126,"195328","So today the State is financially healthy.",6448.1,6450.44,"9212cfc8-88db-47f2-879c-7db5cfaa58c3","recover the state's finances","States that the State is financially healthy in defense of his administration.",{"idx":7436,"utterance_id":7437,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7438,"start_s":7439,"end_s":7440,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1127,"195329","Then there are people who say the debt increased.",6450.86,6453.4,{"idx":7442,"utterance_id":7443,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7444,"start_s":7445,"end_s":7446,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7447,"target_proposition":7448,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":7449,"indexable":702},1128,"195330","It increased nominally, according to the Fiscal Responsibility Law.",6454.02,6461.14,"5baa5378-c393-45fb-b84a-7d18fbd0f922","evaluate nominal change in debt according to the Fiscal Responsibility Law","Justifies a nominal increase by citing the LRF as the criterion.",{"idx":7451,"utterance_id":7452,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7453,"start_s":7454,"end_s":7455,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7432,"target_proposition":7433,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7456,"indexable":702},1129,"195331","Today, Minas is a state that has a much better financial health than it did eight years ago.",6461.38,6467.7,"Compares the current positive situation and defends the results of his administration.",{"idx":7458,"utterance_id":7459,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7460,"start_s":7461,"end_s":7462,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7463,"target_proposition":7464,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":7465,"indexable":74},1130,"195332","So much so that it joined Propag.",6467.82,6469.76,"45cd6b5d-fe8a-40fe-8bb9-e5a0ef485064","renegotiate state public debt with the Union to reduce debt service","States that the state adhered to Propag as a refinancing criterion.",{"idx":7467,"utterance_id":7468,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7469,"start_s":7470,"end_s":7471,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},1131,"195333","And one of the criteria to have the refinancing of what was overdue",6469.82,6475.86,{"idx":7473,"utterance_id":7474,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7475,"start_s":7476,"end_s":7477,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":7331,"topic_label":7332,"target_id":7432,"target_proposition":7433,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7478,"indexable":702},1132,"195334","is precisely that financial sanitation that was done.",6476.2,6479.72,"Attributes the refinancing of overdue debts to financial cleanup.",{"idx":7480,"utterance_id":7481,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7482,"start_s":7483,"end_s":7484,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1133,"195335","The next question here is from Luciara Santana.",6481.82,6484,{"idx":7486,"utterance_id":7487,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7488,"start_s":7489,"end_s":7490,"word_count":54,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7491,"target_proposition":7492,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":7493,"indexable":702},1134,"195336","She sent the following: we hear candidates talk about GDP, SELIC, deficit, but those waiting in line at the SUS want to know about doctors, tests and faster care.",6484.52,6493.1,"589495b3-ba79-4cce-a59a-426c582a6f9d","reduce waiting time for appointments, tests, and surgeries in the SUS","Presents the population's demand for care and faster service in the SUS (question).",{"idx":7495,"utterance_id":7496,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7497,"start_s":7498,"end_s":7499,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7500,"target_proposition":7501,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":7502,"indexable":702},1135,"195337","What would you do to improve health?",6493.12,6495.18,"0adb41cc-7eab-4923-b6af-abf802db6bb8","facilitate families' access to health services","asks what the candidate would do to improve public health.",{"idx":7504,"utterance_id":7505,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7506,"start_s":7507,"end_s":7508,"word_count":43,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7509,"target_proposition":7510,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":7511,"indexable":702},1136,"195338","Look, in Brazil what we need is to have that pathway of bringing health posts, basic health units to all cities, to all neighborhoods.",6497.28,6511.58,"c6bdf562-0b14-4508-b546-9353575b85b9","expand the primary care network (UBS) to cover all cities and neighborhoods","proposes explicitly to take UBS to all cities and neighborhoods.",{"idx":7513,"utterance_id":7514,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7515,"start_s":7516,"end_s":7517,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7509,"target_proposition":7510,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":7518,"indexable":702},1137,"195339","Health has to be... close to every Brazilian's door.",6512.96,6518.38,"argues that health services should be close to every Brazilian's home.",{"idx":7520,"utterance_id":7521,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7522,"start_s":7523,"end_s":7524,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7509,"target_proposition":7510,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7525,"indexable":74},1138,"195340","And that's what I did.",6519.44,6520.38,"claims to have carried out the expansion ('E foi isso que eu fiz').",{"idx":7527,"utterance_id":7528,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7529,"start_s":7530,"end_s":7531,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7509,"target_proposition":7510,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7532,"indexable":702},1139,"195341","More than 400 UBS, Basic Health Units, to detect any disease early.",6521.32,6530.86,"mentions having implemented more than 400 UBS as a government action.",{"idx":7534,"utterance_id":7535,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7536,"start_s":7537,"end_s":7538,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1140,"195342","A flu, if poorly treated, can turn into pneumonia.",6531.66,6535.8,{"idx":7540,"utterance_id":7541,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7542,"start_s":7543,"end_s":7544,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},1141,"195343","A skin spot left for many years can turn into skin 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addition, we multiplied the SUS fee schedule for all hospitals to eliminate the queue for elective surgeries.",6558.58,6569.72,"b87bd2b7-6670-4f59-b546-7f0600488f7c","increase the federal budget for the Ministry of Health","claims to have multiplied the SUS table to end surgery waiting lists.",{"idx":7573,"utterance_id":7574,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7575,"start_s":7576,"end_s":7577,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7569,"target_proposition":7570,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7578,"indexable":702},1146,"195348","What used to take years has today become... a few months, and the same can be done in Brazil.",6570.32,6578.96,"argues that the achieved reduction in queues can be applied across 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resources to hospitals providing effective services.",{"idx":7596,"utterance_id":7597,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7598,"start_s":7599,"end_s":7600,"word_count":161,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":709,"target_proposition":710,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7601,"indexable":702},1149,"195351","I brought SAMU to all the municipalities of the State, as was the case across Brazil.",6591.56,6597.26,"claims to have brought SAMU to all municipalities in the state.",{"idx":7603,"utterance_id":7604,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7605,"start_s":7606,"end_s":7607,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1150,"195352","SAMU is extremely important.",6597.7,6599.18,{"idx":7609,"utterance_id":7610,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7611,"start_s":7612,"end_s":7613,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1151,"195353","Often, 30 minutes is the difference between life and 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well.",6626.52,6628.66,"0c5efbb0-ad8e-4b3e-b906-491996d1b820","ensure availability of essential medicines in the public health system","defends the need for medicines and states availability has increased.",{"idx":7663,"utterance_id":7664,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7665,"start_s":7666,"end_s":7667,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7659,"target_proposition":7660,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":7668,"indexable":74},1159,"195361","Before there was nothing.",6628.96,6629.84,"contrasts previous shortages with current availability of medicines.",{"idx":7670,"utterance_id":7671,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7672,"start_s":7673,"end_s":7674,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7675,"target_proposition":7676,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":7677,"indexable":74},1160,"195362","I took over a State in ruins, which did not even have money for payroll.",6629.86,6634.76,"20ccc337-b1ac-4643-bbd7-67d05c9f639e","report the state's initial fiscal condition upon taking office","reports having taken over a state described as 'arruinado' with no funds for payroll.",{"idx":7679,"utterance_id":7680,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7681,"start_s":7682,"end_s":7683,"word_count":73,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7659,"target_proposition":7660,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7684,"indexable":74},1161,"195363","Today, more than 95% of medicines are available.",6635.2,6639.98,"claims that today more than 95% of medicines are available.",{"idx":7686,"utterance_id":7687,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7688,"start_s":7689,"end_s":7690,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7509,"target_proposition":7510,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":718,"rationale":7691,"indexable":702},1162,"195364","So this is the Brazil I want for Brazilians.",6640.5,6644.02,"reaffirms the desire for a doctor close to home and an accessible UBS.",{"idx":7693,"utterance_id":7694,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7695,"start_s":7696,"end_s":7697,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},1163,"195365","A doctor near your home, the medicine available and not in short supply.",6644.58,6651.12,{"idx":7699,"utterance_id":7700,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7701,"start_s":7702,"end_s":7703,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},1164,"195366","A Brazil that treats with dignity those who, at their most difficult moment, need care and often end up waiting years, months.",6652.42,6665.46,{"idx":7705,"utterance_id":7706,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7707,"start_s":7708,"end_s":7709,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1165,"195367","So it is possible.",6666.16,6667.64,{"idx":7711,"utterance_id":7712,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7713,"start_s":7714,"end_s":7715,"word_count":81,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7716,"target_proposition":7717,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7718,"indexable":702},1166,"195368","Yes, with management, with competent people, the health of Brazilians can improve a lot and will improve.",6667.78,6676.52,"3a779e9e-3a4e-4e95-a810-dfdae16c9b6a","modernize public health management","advocates competent management as a way to improve Brazilians' health.",{"idx":7720,"utterance_id":7721,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7722,"start_s":7723,"end_s":7724,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},1167,"195369","Let's continue on this health topic, talking about science; there's a video from Emílio as well, our friend Emílio sent a question, another question from experts here.",6677.22,6685.78,{"idx":1695,"utterance_id":7726,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7727,"start_s":7728,"end_s":7729,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},"195370","I am Emílio Garcia, from Blobologia and from the Three Elements, and I will send a question to candidate Zema.",6686.1,6700.82,{"idx":7731,"utterance_id":7732,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7733,"start_s":7734,"end_s":7735,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},1169,"195371","My question is related to the health area, especially the vaccination problem we are having in Brazil and in the world.",6701.36,6708.6,{"idx":7737,"utterance_id":7738,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7739,"start_s":7740,"end_s":7741,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},1170,"195372","We know that the wave of denialism caused vaccination rates to fall to worrying levels.",6709.16,6715.32,{"idx":7743,"utterance_id":7744,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7745,"start_s":7746,"end_s":7747,"word_count":228,"indexable":74},1171,"195373","So we have seen the return of diseases like measles in the state of São Paulo precisely because we need a very high vaccination rate.",6716.04,6723.86,{"idx":7749,"utterance_id":7750,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7751,"start_s":7752,"end_s":7753,"word_count":343,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7754,"target_proposition":7755,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":7756,"indexable":702},1172,"195374","To return to that level of vaccination coverage, we need to invest both in vaccine production — we had ceased to be a relevant vaccine producer and have returned to being one in the last four years — and in a lot of public outreach about it.",6724.5,6738.14,"d1b94c05-fafc-480c-924c-da06ef1a4d39","strengthen national vaccine production and prevention of endemic diseases","says it is necessary to invest in both production and promotion to recover coverage.",{"idx":7758,"utterance_id":7759,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7760,"start_s":7761,"end_s":7762,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7763,"target_proposition":7764,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":7765,"indexable":74},1173,"195375","So my question for the candidate is: what is the expected level of investment so that we are sovereign in vaccine production?",6738.54,6746.76,"b7e88ad1-af5b-4564-a134-95a2922ffa5e","set investment expectations for national vaccine production","asks the candidate what investment is expected for vaccine production.",{"idx":7767,"utterance_id":7768,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7769,"start_s":7770,"end_s":7771,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1174,"195376","What does he plan for our country?",6747.08,6749.34,{"idx":7773,"utterance_id":7774,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7775,"start_s":7776,"end_s":7777,"word_count":149,"topic_slug":7320,"topic_label":7321,"target_id":7778,"target_proposition":7779,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":7780,"indexable":74},1175,"195377","How will this investment happen within the austerity plan he defends?",6749.5,6754.4,"8e4a04f9-fae0-4cfa-b16b-88e675c4500e","reconcile investment in vaccine production with austerity policies","questions how investment in vaccines will fit into an austerity plan.",{"idx":7782,"utterance_id":7783,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7784,"start_s":7785,"end_s":7786,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7787,"target_proposition":7788,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":2398,"rationale":7789,"indexable":74},1176,"195378","And the second thing is: we need to vaccinate over 95% of people for measles, for example.",6754.86,6761.52,"ff7108ca-765e-4ec1-8340-61cea544bd91","make childhood vaccination mandatory","raises the issue of individual choice versus the collective need for vaccination.",{"idx":7791,"utterance_id":7792,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7793,"start_s":7794,"end_s":7795,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},1177,"195379","How do we reconcile this idea that vaccination is a collective act",6762.06,6767.02,{"idx":7797,"utterance_id":7798,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7799,"start_s":7800,"end_s":7801,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1178,"195380","with the defense of individual liberties that the candidate promotes?",6767.48,6770.36,{"idx":7803,"utterance_id":7804,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7805,"start_s":7806,"end_s":7807,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1179,"195381","So, can childhood vaccination be a choice?",6770.38,6774.46,{"idx":7809,"utterance_id":7810,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7811,"start_s":7812,"end_s":7813,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1180,"195382","A choice of whom?",6774.5,6775.2,{"idx":7815,"utterance_id":7816,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7817,"start_s":7818,"end_s":7819,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1181,"195383","A choice of the parents?",6775.28,6776.22,{"idx":7821,"utterance_id":7822,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7823,"start_s":7824,"end_s":7825,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},1182,"195384","So how does he deal with this notion of individual choice faced with something that only works if we vaccinate a lot of people?",6776.24,6783.7,{"idx":7827,"utterance_id":7828,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7829,"start_s":7830,"end_s":7831,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1183,"195385","That's it, thanks for the invitation and I'm watching the answer, huh?",6784.1,6786.98,{"idx":7833,"utterance_id":7834,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7835,"start_s":7836,"end_s":7837,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1184,"195386","Thank you, Emílio.",6790.14,6791.06,{"idx":7839,"utterance_id":7840,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7841,"start_s":7842,"end_s":7843,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7754,"target_proposition":7755,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":7844,"indexable":702},1185,"195387","Emílio, Brazil needs, I think even for reasons of national security, to have this investment in vaccines.",6792.24,6802.46,"explicitly states that Brazil needs investment in vaccines.",{"idx":7846,"utterance_id":7847,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7848,"start_s":7849,"end_s":7850,"word_count":54,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7754,"target_proposition":7755,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7851,"indexable":702},1186,"195388","This became very visible during the pandemic, when those countries that had some production capability were in a much more comfortable situation than those that depended on others.",6803.28,6818.04,"uses the pandemic to justify prioritizing domestic production.",{"idx":7853,"utterance_id":7854,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7855,"start_s":7856,"end_s":7857,"word_count":349,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7754,"target_proposition":7755,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":7858,"indexable":702},1187,"195389","We have in Brazil some institutions, in São Paulo, in Rio, Funed in Minas Gerais, that produce vaccines, which in my government received full attention and even, after 10 years, managed to put into production a line that had been there and that no one had ever managed to make viable.",6818.92,6842.68,"claims to have supported institutions that put production lines into operation.",{"idx":7860,"utterance_id":7861,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7862,"start_s":7863,"end_s":7864,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1188,"195390","Thus contributing to the health of all of Brazil through production",6843.38,6848.12,{"idx":7866,"utterance_id":7867,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7868,"start_s":7869,"end_s":7870,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1189,"195391","of vaccines and sera.",6848.68,6850.5,{"idx":7872,"utterance_id":7873,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7874,"start_s":7875,"end_s":7876,"word_count":272,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7877,"target_proposition":7878,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":887,"rationale":7879,"indexable":702},1190,"195392","I am in favor of vaccination; I vaccinated myself against Covid, vaccinated my children, recommended it, I support the campaign, I support awareness — I am just not in favor of putting someone who refuses vaccination in prison.",6850.52,6872.52,"2644ff6a-ef78-423a-a10c-a528300a6339","promote vaccination and public health measures","says they favor vaccination and campaigns, citing their own and their family's vaccination.",{"idx":7881,"utterance_id":7882,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7883,"start_s":7884,"end_s":7885,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7886,"target_proposition":7887,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":756,"rationale":7888,"indexable":74},1191,"195393","But every effort needs to be made.",6873.16,6876.66,"dbe8be61-35a1-4c1f-b99c-8a4f60e360ef","implement financial incentives to municipalities to increase vaccination coverage","states that 'todo esforço precisa ser feito' to improve vaccination.",{"idx":7890,"utterance_id":7891,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7892,"start_s":7893,"end_s":7894,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1192,"195394","I am someone who respects individual rights.",6877.3,6881.12,{"idx":7896,"utterance_id":7897,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7898,"start_s":7899,"end_s":7900,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1193,"195395","And it is not, in my opinion, by discriminating against someone that we will improve health.",6882.02,6889.68,{"idx":7902,"utterance_id":7903,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7904,"start_s":7905,"end_s":7906,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1194,"195396","I think awareness is worth it, clarification is worth it.",6889.76,6894.6,{"idx":7908,"utterance_id":7909,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7910,"start_s":7911,"end_s":7912,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1195,"195397","These are campaigns.",6895.12,6895.98,{"idx":7914,"utterance_id":7915,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7916,"start_s":7917,"end_s":7918,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1196,"195398","We are in a democracy.",6896.24,6897.72,{"idx":7920,"utterance_id":7921,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7922,"start_s":7923,"end_s":7924,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},1197,"195399","Or is what we want here the opposite of a democracy?",6898.1,6902.66,{"idx":7926,"utterance_id":7927,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7928,"start_s":7929,"end_s":7930,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1198,"195400","Is it to force people?",6903.1,6904.18,{"idx":7932,"utterance_id":7933,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7934,"start_s":7935,"end_s":7936,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},1199,"195401","to do something in which they do not believe, that goes totally against their creed.",6904.72,6911.96,{"idx":7938,"utterance_id":7939,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7940,"start_s":7941,"end_s":7942,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1200,"195402","So I am very much along those lines, Emílio.",6912.52,6914.9,{"idx":7944,"utterance_id":7945,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7946,"start_s":7947,"end_s":7948,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":51,"topic_label":48,"target_id":7949,"target_proposition":7950,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":7951,"indexable":702},1201,"195403","And this vaccine production, to conclude here, in my opinion is strategic for a country the size of Brazil.",6916.86,6925.62,"8663f408-6c9c-453e-87fa-106f529a33ec","promote partnerships between federal universities and the pharmaceutical sector for vaccine research and production","supports closer university-industry collaboration to enable vaccine production.",{"idx":7953,"utterance_id":7954,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7955,"start_s":7956,"end_s":7957,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},1202,"195404","We have here a population that makes practically any type of vaccine production viable.",6925.8,6932.58,{"idx":7959,"utterance_id":7960,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7961,"start_s":7962,"end_s":7963,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1203,"195405","There is an economic gain we could realize.",6932.6,6937.2,{"idx":7965,"utterance_id":7966,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7967,"start_s":7968,"end_s":7969,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1204,"195406","It is bringing more research, with federal universities working together",6937.96,6944.2,{"idx":7971,"utterance_id":7972,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7973,"start_s":7974,"end_s":7975,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},1205,"195407","with the pharmaceutical sector, something that does not occur today with the intensity it could.",6944.78,6950.72,{"idx":7977,"utterance_id":7978,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7979,"start_s":7980,"end_s":7981,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1206,"195408","I say that in Brazil we have thrown away many great opportunities.",6951.28,6955.86,{"idx":7983,"utterance_id":7984,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7985,"start_s":7986,"end_s":7987,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":2032,"topic_label":2033,"target_id":7988,"target_proposition":7989,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":7990,"indexable":702},1207,"195409","Today the university turns up its nose at the productive sector.",6956.44,6961.64,"1d6659e2-e88d-44d6-88f7-8bf60311d8b9","strengthen interaction between academic institutions and the productive sector for innovation","criticizes the separation between university and industry and calls for closer ties.",{"idx":7992,"utterance_id":7993,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":7994,"start_s":7995,"end_s":7996,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},1208,"195410","Universities, especially federal ones, act as if they are disgusted by the productive sector.",6961.86,6966.5,{"idx":7998,"utterance_id":7999,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8000,"start_s":8001,"end_s":8002,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},1209,"195411","But we must remember, we have Embraer today that was born due to that closeness of academic research with the productive sector.",6966.96,6976.58,{"idx":8004,"utterance_id":8005,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8006,"start_s":8007,"end_s":8008,"word_count":32,"indexable":74},1210,"195412","So I think we have to break that taboo that exists: the productive sector seeks profit, but it is through a society that profits more that everyone's life will improve.",6976.6,6988.94,{"idx":8010,"utterance_id":8011,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8012,"start_s":8013,"end_s":8014,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1211,"195413","Let's now talk about geopolitics.",6990.36,6992.24,{"idx":8016,"utterance_id":8017,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8018,"start_s":8019,"end_s":8020,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},1212,"195414","Send it with our friend who is always here every Tuesday on the news, Marcílio.",6992.4,6996.46,{"idx":8022,"utterance_id":8023,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8024,"start_s":8025,"end_s":8026,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1213,"195415","Please send the question.",6996.52,6997.54,{"idx":8028,"utterance_id":8029,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8030,"start_s":8031,"end_s":8032,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1214,"195416","Zema, pleasure.",7003.58,7004.26,{"idx":8034,"utterance_id":8035,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8036,"start_s":8037,"end_s":8038,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1215,"195417","My name is Ricardo, Ricardo Marcílio, and I am a professor of Geography and Geopolitics.",7004.44,7007.78,{"idx":8040,"utterance_id":8041,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8042,"start_s":8043,"end_s":8044,"word_count":54,"indexable":74},1216,"195418","Right now we know that the United States and China are practically antagonistic on virtually all international geopolitical fronts, and that Latin America is at the center of this dispute.",7008.4,7016.68,{"idx":8046,"utterance_id":8047,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8048,"start_s":8049,"end_s":8050,"word_count":266,"indexable":74},1217,"195419","There are several points of disagreement between the two, but so we don't get too lost in the question, I want to focus specifically on two: the financial sector and the military sector.",7017.24,7025.8,{"idx":8052,"utterance_id":8053,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8054,"start_s":8055,"end_s":8056,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},1218,"195420","From a financial point of view, Brazil, for example, has the idea of PIX",7026.42,7029.8,{"idx":8058,"utterance_id":8059,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8060,"start_s":8061,"end_s":8062,"word_count":81,"indexable":74},1219,"195421","and of BRICS Pay, which are payment mechanisms that the United States certainly does not support.",7030.3,7036.12,{"idx":8064,"utterance_id":8065,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8066,"start_s":8067,"end_s":8068,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},1220,"195422","In addition to Brazil also supporting de-dollarization, placing other currencies, such as the euro or the yuan itself, as our international reserves.",7036.58,7043.92,{"idx":8070,"utterance_id":8071,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8072,"start_s":8073,"end_s":8074,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1221,"195423","Do you support the United States intervening in our PIX, and do you support Brazil abandoning the idea of de-dollarization?",7044.76,7052.34,{"idx":8076,"utterance_id":8077,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8078,"start_s":8079,"end_s":8080,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},1222,"195424","Another important point: the United States designated groups like the PCC and the CV as terrorist groups.",7053.08,7058.8,{"idx":8082,"utterance_id":8083,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8084,"start_s":8085,"end_s":8086,"word_count":123,"indexable":74},1223,"195425","Moreover, in several countries there is the prospect of military cooperation between the United States and the country, not always with the full autonomy of the country receiving that American intervention, for military actions against these criminal organizations.",7059.4,7072.3,{"idx":8088,"utterance_id":8089,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8090,"start_s":8091,"end_s":8092,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1224,"195426","Do you support military cooperation between Brazil and the United States with American forces operating on Brazilian soil to combat these organizations?",7072.94,7080.74,{"idx":8094,"utterance_id":8095,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8096,"start_s":8097,"end_s":8098,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1225,"195427","That is... PIX, de-dollarization and the operation of American military forces.",7081.28,7085.84,{"idx":8100,"utterance_id":8101,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8102,"start_s":8103,"end_s":8104,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1226,"195428","Do you agree?",7086.22,7086.8,{"idx":8106,"utterance_id":8107,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8108,"start_s":8109,"end_s":8110,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1227,"195429","Thank you, Ricardo.",7086.88,7089.52,{"idx":8112,"utterance_id":8113,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8114,"start_s":8115,"end_s":8116,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1228,"195430","Ricardo, let's go in sequence.",7091.22,7093.28,{"idx":8118,"utterance_id":8119,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8120,"start_s":8121,"end_s":8122,"word_count":76,"indexable":74},1229,"195431","PIX.",7093.46,7093.7,{"idx":8124,"utterance_id":8125,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8126,"start_s":8127,"end_s":8128,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":8129,"topic_label":8130,"target_id":8131,"target_proposition":8132,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":8133,"indexable":74},1230,"195432","PIX is a Brazilian achievement.",7094.22,7095.98,"politica-monetaria-meios-de-pagamento","Monetary Policy \u002F Payment Systems","36e9d88d-9dae-4abf-a221-4a7ecbe10afa","defend and promote PIX as a national payments system and internationalize it","Argues that no one will 'tirar o Pix' and praises its use and national acceptance.",{"idx":8135,"utterance_id":8136,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8137,"start_s":8138,"end_s":8139,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1231,"195433","Brazilians approved it, liked it.",7096.82,7099.32,{"idx":8141,"utterance_id":8142,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8143,"start_s":8144,"end_s":8145,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},1232,"195434","And there is no country in the world that will come and take our PIX away from us because it displeased someone who had a debit or credit card.",7099.66,7108.64,{"idx":8147,"utterance_id":8148,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8149,"start_s":8150,"end_s":8151,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},1233,"195435","It is something that is consolidated, that I use, that those of you following us use.",7109.18,7114.12,{"idx":8153,"utterance_id":8154,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8155,"start_s":8156,"end_s":8157,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},1234,"195436","And I think it is foolish of the United States to keep questioning a technological advance.",7115,7121.16,{"idx":8159,"utterance_id":8160,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8161,"start_s":8162,"end_s":8163,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1235,"195437","I think they should copy PIX there.",7121.22,7124.46,{"idx":8165,"utterance_id":8166,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8167,"start_s":8168,"end_s":8169,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1236,"195438","I am sure Americans would like it.",7124.82,7127.18,{"idx":8171,"utterance_id":8172,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8173,"start_s":8174,"end_s":8175,"word_count":190,"indexable":74},1237,"195439","And sometimes even our Central Bank, Brazil, could gain something from this, since it is a system",7127.64,7134.5,{"idx":8177,"utterance_id":8178,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8179,"start_s":8180,"end_s":8181,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1238,"195440","that makes us very proud and that came to make our lives easier.",7134.98,7138.76,{"idx":8183,"utterance_id":8184,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8185,"start_s":8186,"end_s":8187,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1239,"195441","Questioning the dollar.",7140.8,7142.36,{"idx":8189,"utterance_id":8190,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8191,"start_s":8192,"end_s":8193,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1240,"195442","I have been saying here, Ricardo, would changing to the inch system improve our lives?",7142.38,7153.34,{"idx":8195,"utterance_id":8196,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8197,"start_s":8198,"end_s":8199,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":8200,"topic_label":8201,"target_id":8202,"target_proposition":8203,"stance":1302,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":8204,"indexable":702},1241,"195443","The dollar has been around, used for years, and serves as a reference.",7154.74,7158.82,"politica-cambial","Exchange Rate Policy","970f078b-f524-4be0-9705-b8d23f249cdf","reduce dependence on the dollar as an international benchmark","Questions whether adopting the yuan\u002Feuro would improve lives and rejects broad de-dollarization.",{"idx":8206,"utterance_id":8207,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8208,"start_s":8209,"end_s":8210,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},1242,"195444","Would having the yuan, would having the euro as a measure",7158.86,7164.3,{"idx":8212,"utterance_id":8213,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8214,"start_s":8215,"end_s":8216,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1243,"195445","improve our lives?",7164.9,7166.02,{"idx":8218,"utterance_id":8219,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8220,"start_s":8221,"end_s":8222,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1244,"195446","In my opinion, no.",7166.08,7167.02,{"idx":8224,"utterance_id":8225,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8226,"start_s":8227,"end_s":8228,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1245,"195447","And it has been used for retaliations by the United States.",7167.56,7173.1,{"idx":8230,"utterance_id":8231,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8232,"start_s":8233,"end_s":8234,"word_count":143,"topic_slug":8200,"topic_label":8201,"target_id":8235,"target_proposition":8236,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":8237,"indexable":702},1246,"195448","So, I question it; I think Brazil has to invest in those currencies",7173.84,7179.92,"9ab548de-e44b-4090-9462-bd9334896063","diversify international reserves considering safety and return","Proposes that the BC analyze where to allocate reserves for safety and higher returns.",{"idx":8239,"utterance_id":8240,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8241,"start_s":8242,"end_s":8243,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1247,"195449","where the return is greater and where it is safer.",7180.64,7183.88,{"idx":8245,"utterance_id":8246,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8247,"start_s":8248,"end_s":8249,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},1248,"195450","And that is for the Central Bank technicians to analyze where the reserves should be kept.",7183.9,7189.1,{"idx":8251,"utterance_id":8252,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8253,"start_s":8254,"end_s":8255,"word_count":9,"indexable":74},1249,"195451","Now international trade is generally measured in dollars for historical reasons, the same way we use meters here and not inches.",7189.62,7200.66,{"idx":8257,"utterance_id":8258,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8259,"start_s":8260,"end_s":8261,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1250,"195452","So, what is working for me should be kept.",7200.76,7205.32,{"idx":8263,"utterance_id":8264,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8265,"start_s":8266,"end_s":8267,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":8268,"topic_label":8269,"target_id":8270,"target_proposition":8271,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":8272,"indexable":702},1251,"195453","Let's change healthcare that doesn't work well.",7205.4,7208.58,"servicos-publicos-essenciais-saude-educacao-seguranca","Essential Public Services","414bf41f-d5ec-4af1-94aa-9f30e3001938","prioritize reforms to improve public health and education services","Criticizes the focus on de-dollarization and calls for change in deficient health and education.",{"idx":8274,"utterance_id":8275,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8276,"start_s":8277,"end_s":8278,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1252,"195454","Let's change education, where we are at the bottom.",7209.04,7212.72,{"idx":8280,"utterance_id":8281,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8282,"start_s":8283,"end_s":8284,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1253,"195455","Why doesn't Lula talk about changing that?",7212.98,7214.92,{"idx":8286,"utterance_id":8287,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8288,"start_s":8289,"end_s":8290,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},1254,"195456","Because I think he wants everyone to remain where they are, with deficient healthcare, with education that doesn't work.",7216.24,7222.1,{"idx":8292,"utterance_id":8293,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8294,"start_s":8295,"end_s":8296,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},1255,"195457","He keeps talking about changing the dollar, which makes little difference in our lives.",7222.38,7227.36,{"idx":8298,"utterance_id":8299,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8300,"start_s":8301,"end_s":8302,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":4512,"topic_label":4513,"target_id":8303,"target_proposition":8304,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":8305,"indexable":702},1256,"195458","And I want international cooperation to combat organized crime and the factions, yes.",7228.58,7234.8,"c45f23d5-5a76-4dec-87a9-09b8340ac565","cooperate militarily with foreign countries to combat organized crime in the region","Supports international cooperation and joint operations against criminal factions.",{"idx":8307,"utterance_id":8308,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8309,"start_s":8310,"end_s":8311,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1257,"195459","Which I will classify as terrorist groups, like the United States does.",7235.38,7240.22,{"idx":8313,"utterance_id":8314,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8315,"start_s":8316,"end_s":8317,"word_count":26,"indexable":74},1258,"195460","I want Brazilian military working together in operations throughout the Amazon, in Brazil, in Bolivia, in Colombia, in Peru, against drug trafficking.",7241.48,7257.22,{"idx":8319,"utterance_id":8320,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8321,"start_s":8322,"end_s":8323,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1259,"195461","If help comes from Europe, which it does.",7258.12,7260.14,{"idx":8325,"utterance_id":8326,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8327,"start_s":8328,"end_s":8329,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1260,"195462","If help comes from North America, it will be very welcome.",7261.12,7265.5,{"idx":8331,"utterance_id":8332,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8333,"start_s":8334,"end_s":8335,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1261,"195463","That does not violate Brazilian sovereignty.",7265.6,7268.38,{"idx":8337,"utterance_id":8338,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8339,"start_s":8340,"end_s":8341,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},1262,"195464","What is violating Brazilian sovereignty is the territorial control of these criminal factions that I consider terrorists.",7268.78,7277.06,{"idx":8343,"utterance_id":8344,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8345,"start_s":8346,"end_s":8347,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1263,"195465","That indeed violates.",7277.86,7279.02,{"idx":8349,"utterance_id":8350,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8351,"start_s":8352,"end_s":8353,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},1264,"195466","Who was the one who most approved of that operation that took place in Rio de Janeiro in October of last year?",7280,7287.18,{"idx":8355,"utterance_id":8356,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8357,"start_s":8358,"end_s":8359,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1265,"195467","Who lives in the community?",7287.86,7289.86,{"idx":8361,"utterance_id":8362,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8363,"start_s":8364,"end_s":8365,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1266,"195468","Because those who live in the community are the ones who are victims of extortion.",7290.28,7293.86,{"idx":8367,"utterance_id":8368,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8369,"start_s":8370,"end_s":8371,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1267,"195469","Maybe it's not me, maybe it's not you, but those who live there pay more for electricity, for water, for the internet.",7294.74,7303.42,{"idx":8373,"utterance_id":8374,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8375,"start_s":8376,"end_s":8377,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1268,"195470","They are subject to all kinds of abuse by those criminals.",7304.18,7308.74,{"idx":8379,"utterance_id":8380,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8381,"start_s":8382,"end_s":8383,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},1269,"195471","Brazil — actually, not Brazil, those sold-out politicians — talk so much about sovereignty.",7309.44,7316.14,{"idx":8385,"utterance_id":8386,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8387,"start_s":8388,"end_s":8389,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},1270,"195472","Only they forget that we've already lost sovereignty here to organized crime.",7316.94,7321.76,{"idx":8391,"utterance_id":8392,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8393,"start_s":8394,"end_s":8395,"word_count":54,"indexable":74},1271,"195473","I was there in Ceará, in the most violent cities in Brazil, and coincidence or not, the states with the highest homicide rates, with the most crime, are governed by whom?",7322.32,7335.06,{"idx":8397,"utterance_id":8398,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8399,"start_s":8400,"end_s":8401,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1272,"195474","By the PT.",7335.72,7336.58,{"idx":8403,"utterance_id":8404,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8405,"start_s":8406,"end_s":8407,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},1273,"195475","I don't know if it's a coincidence, but there's the case of Bahia, the case of Ceará, which are prime examples.",7337.3,7343.94,{"idx":8409,"utterance_id":8410,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8411,"start_s":8412,"end_s":8413,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1274,"195476","After PT governments, crime practically got out of control.",7344.38,7350.26,{"idx":8415,"utterance_id":8416,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8417,"start_s":8418,"end_s":8419,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1275,"195477","So, all international help will be welcome.",7350.62,7354.84,{"idx":8421,"utterance_id":8422,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8423,"start_s":8424,"end_s":8425,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1276,"195478","And it's not going to be just from the United States.",7354.86,7357.18,{"idx":8427,"utterance_id":8428,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8429,"start_s":8430,"end_s":8431,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},1277,"195479","We're going to form a group to combat these organizations and factions that have tentacles all over the world.",7357.56,7365.42,{"idx":8433,"utterance_id":8434,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8435,"start_s":8436,"end_s":8437,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1278,"195480","Zema, thank you very much.",7368.28,7369.36,{"idx":8439,"utterance_id":8440,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8441,"start_s":8442,"end_s":8443,"word_count":397,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":8444,"target_proposition":8445,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":8446,"indexable":702},1279,"195481","To finish, a question that was raised, I don't know if it was in the debate or in Globo's interview: how do you intend to reduce the Selic to 6% per year without generating a new inflationary spike, considering that the basic interest rate also reflects fiscal and exchange-rate expectations that are beyond the direct control of the Executive?",7370.24,7389.52,"e6a2a07d-0a1c-49c9-8834-5d0475590a62","reduce the Selic rate","Explicitly declares 'eu vou reduzir... a Selic' and ties it to credibility.",{"idx":8448,"utterance_id":8449,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8450,"start_s":8451,"end_s":8452,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},1280,"195482","I will reduce it... The Selic — with credibility; the market prices in credibility.",7393.66,7401.32,{"idx":8454,"utterance_id":8455,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8456,"start_s":8457,"end_s":8458,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1281,"195483","Anyone can follow along.",7401.5,7403.48,{"idx":8460,"utterance_id":8461,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8462,"start_s":8463,"end_s":8464,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1282,"195484","You can see the collapse, right?",7403.5,7405,{"idx":8466,"utterance_id":8467,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8468,"start_s":8469,"end_s":8470,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1283,"195485","Yes — to see what happened.",7405.2,7407.82,{"idx":8472,"utterance_id":8473,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8474,"start_s":8475,"end_s":8476,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1284,"195486","I was elected on October 28 of '19, '18 — actually, '18.",7408.6,7415.9,{"idx":8478,"utterance_id":8479,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8480,"start_s":8481,"end_s":8482,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},1285,"195487","Actually, I won the first round three weeks earlier, so it was October 7, '18.",7417.44,7421.94,{"idx":8484,"utterance_id":8485,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8486,"start_s":8487,"end_s":8488,"word_count":141,"indexable":74},1286,"195488","I don't remember whether it was the day I won the first round or the day I won the election.",7423.88,7427.46,{"idx":8490,"utterance_id":8491,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8492,"start_s":8493,"end_s":8494,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1287,"195489","The shares of companies from Minas, before I took office — I hadn't even taken office.",7427.54,7433.56,{"idx":1843,"utterance_id":8496,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8497,"start_s":8498,"end_s":8499,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":8500,"topic_label":8501,"target_id":8502,"target_proposition":8503,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":8504,"indexable":702},"195490","Just from my being elected, and the market already knew me, knew what I'm like.",7434.1,7438.96,"judiciario-combate-a-corrupcao","Judiciary \u002F Anti-Corruption","2bbf647d-7d62-4cd3-bf3c-3b89fa787be7","combat corruption and hold those involved accountable","States that the market prices credibility when it sees a fight against corruption.",{"idx":8506,"utterance_id":8507,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8508,"start_s":8509,"end_s":8510,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1289,"195491","The market already reacted.",7438.98,7439.74,{"idx":8512,"utterance_id":8513,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8514,"start_s":8515,"end_s":8516,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1290,"195492","Companies from Minas increased in value by 30%.",7439.76,7442.74,{"idx":8518,"utterance_id":8519,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8520,"start_s":8521,"end_s":8522,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1291,"195493","Just from my being elected.",7443.06,7446.12,{"idx":8524,"utterance_id":8525,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8526,"start_s":8527,"end_s":8528,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1292,"195494","I hadn't taken any measures, I hadn't appointed anyone.",7446.14,7448.9,{"idx":8530,"utterance_id":8531,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8532,"start_s":8533,"end_s":8534,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1293,"195495","There were still 90 days before I took office as governor.",7449.1,7453.06,{"idx":8536,"utterance_id":8537,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8538,"start_s":8539,"end_s":8540,"word_count":331,"indexable":74},1294,"195496","So, when there is a serious president, who isn't compromised, who will fight the untouchables, who will say 'I will fight corruption, I will not let incompetent people, bad people remain in this government,' the market already begins to price that in.",7453.66,7471.28,{"idx":8542,"utterance_id":8543,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8544,"start_s":8545,"end_s":8546,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1295,"195497","That's exactly what happens.",7473.34,7476.08,{"idx":8548,"utterance_id":8549,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8550,"start_s":8551,"end_s":8552,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1296,"195498","Now I'm going to take measures.",7476.4,7477.78,{"idx":8554,"utterance_id":8555,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8556,"start_s":8557,"end_s":8558,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1297,"195499","As governor I took many, and as president I will take them.",7479.42,7483.42,{"idx":8560,"utterance_id":8561,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8562,"start_s":8563,"end_s":8564,"word_count":155,"topic_slug":8565,"topic_label":8566,"target_id":8567,"target_proposition":8568,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":8569,"indexable":702},1298,"195500","Today we have some 60 billion in parliamentary amendments, over which there is little control.",7483.9,7490.1,"regulacao-e-transparencia-financeira","Financial Regulation & Transparency","46e9200d-b612-4f47-8e08-eff4fc322196","curb the misuse of parliamentary amendments","Proposes greater oversight and careful application of parliamentary amendments.",{"idx":8571,"utterance_id":8572,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8573,"start_s":8574,"end_s":8575,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},1299,"195501","I respect parliamentary amendments, but they need to be applied to good projects and be overseen.",7491.12,7499.7,{"idx":8577,"utterance_id":8578,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8579,"start_s":8580,"end_s":8581,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1300,"195502","Corruption, earmarks, excessive salaries, fraud everywhere.",7500.6,7509.18,{"idx":8583,"utterance_id":8584,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8585,"start_s":8586,"end_s":8587,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},1301,"195503","That's — nothing, nothing, nothing — we're talking even more than 100 billion per year.",7509.82,7516.02,{"idx":8589,"utterance_id":8590,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8591,"start_s":8592,"end_s":8593,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1302,"195504","And then there are people who say the budget is rigid.",7516.96,7519.66,{"idx":8595,"utterance_id":8596,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8597,"start_s":8598,"end_s":8599,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1303,"195505","I know how to deal with that.",7519.96,7521.16,{"idx":8601,"utterance_id":8602,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8603,"start_s":8604,"end_s":8605,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1304,"195506","There were cases, because things work more or less like this.",7521.9,7525.52,{"idx":8607,"utterance_id":8608,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8609,"start_s":8610,"end_s":8611,"word_count":172,"indexable":74},1305,"195507","Someone, last year, spent 10; this year there was inflation, he says, I'll need to spend 11.",7526.42,7532.56,{"idx":8613,"utterance_id":8614,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8615,"start_s":8616,"end_s":8617,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},1306,"195508","There was another year, another inflation, he says, I'll need to spend 12.",7533.44,7536.6,{"idx":8619,"utterance_id":8620,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8621,"start_s":8622,"end_s":8623,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1307,"195509","And so on.",7537.32,7538.62,{"idx":8625,"utterance_id":8626,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8627,"start_s":8628,"end_s":8629,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1308,"195510","I did it differently.",7539.66,7540.98,{"idx":8631,"utterance_id":8632,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8633,"start_s":8634,"end_s":8635,"word_count":178,"indexable":74},1309,"195511","There were cases in my government where the expenditure went to zero because we discovered it served little purpose.",7541.6,7550.34,{"idx":8637,"utterance_id":8638,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8639,"start_s":8640,"end_s":8641,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1310,"195512","I'll give here an example I remember very well.",7551.42,7553.54,{"idx":8643,"utterance_id":8644,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8645,"start_s":8646,"end_s":8647,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":8648,"topic_label":8649,"target_id":8650,"target_proposition":8651,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":8652,"indexable":702},1311,"195513","There was a large expense there for surveillance of public buildings.",7553.56,7558.06,"previdencia-gestao-de-fundos-publicos","Pensions \u002F Public Fund Management","475ea3ea-3270-48ff-a3e3-062318552550","reduce superfluous public spending and adopt austere fiscal management","Reports having replaced contracts and saved tens of millions with CFTV and monitoring.",{"idx":8654,"utterance_id":8655,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8656,"start_s":8657,"end_s":8658,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1312,"195514","We installed CCTV monitoring — that was it.",7559.02,7564.14,{"idx":8660,"utterance_id":8661,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8662,"start_s":8663,"end_s":8664,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1313,"195515","Tens of millions saved in a state.",7565.96,7569.02,{"idx":8666,"utterance_id":8667,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8668,"start_s":8669,"end_s":8670,"word_count":190,"indexable":74},1314,"195516","We had maintenance contracts there, various ones, that were made for someone to get rich and not to provide maintenance.",7570,7579.22,{"idx":8672,"utterance_id":8673,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8674,"start_s":8675,"end_s":8676,"word_count":201,"indexable":74},1315,"195517","Like you say: I want maintenance to be done in this studio, but it needs to have such-and-such equipment, such-and-such vacuum cleaner.",7579.92,7587.78,{"idx":8678,"utterance_id":8679,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8680,"start_s":8681,"end_s":8682,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1316,"195518","And there's only one company that has it in Brazil.",7588.28,7590.12,{"idx":8684,"utterance_id":8685,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8686,"start_s":8687,"end_s":8688,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1317,"195519","Who is going to win?",7590.14,7591.28,{"idx":8690,"utterance_id":8691,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8692,"start_s":8693,"end_s":8694,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1318,"195520","That company.",7592.2,7592.86,{"idx":8696,"utterance_id":8697,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8698,"start_s":8699,"end_s":8700,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1319,"195521","That's what used to happen there.",7593.14,7594.18,{"idx":8702,"utterance_id":8703,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8704,"start_s":8705,"end_s":8706,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1320,"195522","When we made another contract, the price fell by 90%.",7594.92,7598.2,{"idx":8708,"utterance_id":8709,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8710,"start_s":8711,"end_s":8712,"word_count":136,"indexable":74},1321,"195523","So, in the public sector there is a wealth of opportunities for savings.",7599.54,7605.54,{"idx":8714,"utterance_id":8715,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8716,"start_s":8717,"end_s":8718,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":8500,"topic_label":8501,"target_id":8719,"target_proposition":8720,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":8721,"indexable":702},1322,"195524","The public sector in Brazil, you who are following us here, was set up to enrich the ruler's cronies.",7605.58,7612.96,"17444a71-f831-4746-a8bf-5d367b22835c","combat privileges and impunity in public administration","Criticizes 'amigos do rei' practices and denies granting benefits to relatives during his administration.",{"idx":8723,"utterance_id":8724,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8725,"start_s":8726,"end_s":8727,"word_count":43,"indexable":74},1323,"195525","And I didn't bring a relative, no one in my family made contracts with the State or benefited, as some ministers there at the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), as we're seeing, do.",7613.72,7626.16,{"idx":8729,"utterance_id":8730,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8731,"start_s":8732,"end_s":8733,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1324,"195526","What the ministers at the STF... do.",7626.58,7629.7,{"idx":8735,"utterance_id":8736,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8737,"start_s":8738,"end_s":8739,"word_count":212,"indexable":74},1325,"195527","It's done there in Brasília all over the place, especially in this Lula and PT government, which doesn't say a word about it.",7630.88,7640.38,{"idx":8741,"utterance_id":8742,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8743,"start_s":8744,"end_s":8745,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1326,"195528","Then you can get an idea of how many billions are going.",7640.76,7645.06,{"idx":8747,"utterance_id":8748,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8749,"start_s":8750,"end_s":8751,"word_count":109,"topic_slug":8752,"topic_label":8753,"target_id":8754,"target_proposition":8755,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":8756,"indexable":74},1327,"195529","And I'm going to do an administrative reform.",7645.94,7649.54,"reforma-politica","Political Reform","aec53f40-e043-45ef-96c3-17def2dbe419","reduce the size of the state through administrative reform and privatizations","Announces he will carry out administrative reform and expects large future savings.",{"idx":8758,"utterance_id":8759,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8760,"start_s":8761,"end_s":8762,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1328,"195530","The public sector in Brazil just keeps getting more bloated, fatter.",7650.44,7654.68,{"idx":8764,"utterance_id":8765,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8766,"start_s":8767,"end_s":8768,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1329,"195531","With me it will be different.",7654.78,7657.02,{"idx":8770,"utterance_id":8771,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8772,"start_s":8773,"end_s":8774,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1330,"195532","This reform is there.",7657.4,7658.58,{"idx":8776,"utterance_id":8777,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8778,"start_s":8779,"end_s":8780,"word_count":125,"indexable":74},1331,"195533","Advanced, but there isn't a president with the courage.",7659.08,7662.6,{"idx":8782,"utterance_id":8783,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8784,"start_s":8785,"end_s":8786,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1332,"195534","I will.",7662.8,7663.34,{"idx":8788,"utterance_id":8789,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8790,"start_s":8791,"end_s":8792,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":8752,"topic_label":8753,"target_id":8793,"target_proposition":8794,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":8795,"indexable":702},1333,"195535","And it will save at least 2 trillion over the next 20 years.",7663.36,7668.94,"d7b71ab3-80fa-4e93-ac9d-55f63973748e","carry out administrative reform in municipalities","Estimates savings of at least 2 trillion over 20 years with administrative reform.",{"idx":8797,"utterance_id":8798,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8799,"start_s":8800,"end_s":8801,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1334,"195536","Just with this administrative reform.",7669.48,7672.24,{"idx":8803,"utterance_id":8804,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8805,"start_s":8806,"end_s":8807,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1335,"195537","And what will the market do?",7672.78,7674.62,{"idx":8809,"utterance_id":8810,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8811,"start_s":8812,"end_s":8813,"word_count":161,"indexable":74},1336,"195538","It will signal that there is a president who now has responsibility and will price interest rates.",7675.38,7682.8,{"idx":8815,"utterance_id":8816,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8817,"start_s":8818,"end_s":8819,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":8820,"target_proposition":8821,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1070,"rationale":8822,"indexable":702},1337,"195539","It's not the president who prices interest, it's the market.",7683.28,7686.94,"f47622e5-004f-4710-b526-ca27b9cbb4f0","allow the market to price interest rates","States as fact that the market, not the president, prices interest rates.",{"idx":8824,"utterance_id":8825,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8826,"start_s":8827,"end_s":8828,"word_count":172,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":8820,"target_proposition":8821,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":700,"rationale":8829,"indexable":702},1338,"195540","But those who are competent, who are serious, are priced in that way — which is what happened to me.",7687.24,7692.78,"Praises that those who are competent are 'precificado', implicitly endorsing that mechanism.",{"idx":8831,"utterance_id":8832,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8833,"start_s":8834,"end_s":8835,"word_count":109,"indexable":74},1339,"195541","To finish, let's talk about futurology.",7693.26,7696.8,{"idx":8837,"utterance_id":8838,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8839,"start_s":8840,"end_s":8841,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1340,"195542","Are you disappointed with your numbers in the polls?",7698.22,7700.78,{"idx":8843,"utterance_id":8844,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8845,"start_s":8846,"end_s":8847,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1341,"195543","How much do you think you will gain?",7701.26,7702.62,{"idx":8849,"utterance_id":8850,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8851,"start_s":8852,"end_s":8853,"word_count":155,"indexable":74},1342,"195544","And if you don't make it to the second round, who supports you or prefers not to speak out?",7704.14,7708.3,{"idx":8855,"utterance_id":8856,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8857,"start_s":8858,"end_s":8859,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1343,"195545","I've already experienced that situation in 2018.",7710.12,7711.94,{"idx":8861,"utterance_id":8862,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8863,"start_s":8864,"end_s":8865,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1344,"195546","So I'm calm, traveling around, with many commitments.",7711.96,7717.76,{"idx":8867,"utterance_id":8868,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8869,"start_s":8870,"end_s":8871,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":8872,"topic_label":8873,"target_id":8874,"target_proposition":8875,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":8876,"indexable":702},1345,"195547","Brazilians will decide their vote only at the last minute.",7717.84,7721.26,"eleicoes-presidenciais","Presidential Elections","b8773f44-166b-45e2-bda0-ac877407b1f9","recognize that voters decide their vote at the last minute","Makes an observation about electoral behavior without proposing action.",{"idx":8878,"utterance_id":8879,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8880,"start_s":8881,"end_s":8882,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1346,"195548","Especially with this investigation that is underway.",7721.28,7723.62,{"idx":8884,"utterance_id":8885,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8886,"start_s":8887,"end_s":8888,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1347,"195549","A lot is going to happen, right?",7723.64,7724.64,{"idx":8890,"utterance_id":8891,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8892,"start_s":8893,"end_s":8894,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1348,"195550","A lot is going to happen.",7724.68,7726.04,{"idx":8896,"utterance_id":8897,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8898,"start_s":8899,"end_s":8900,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1349,"195551","Anything can happen.",7726.16,7727.28,{"idx":8902,"utterance_id":8903,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8904,"start_s":8905,"end_s":8906,"word_count":94,"indexable":74},1350,"195552","And I say an election is like a menu.",7727.3,7730.52,{"idx":8908,"utterance_id":8909,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8910,"start_s":8911,"end_s":8912,"word_count":149,"indexable":74},1351,"195553","You decide when the time comes to make the choice.",7730.82,7734.04,{"idx":8914,"utterance_id":8915,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8916,"start_s":8917,"end_s":8918,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1352,"195554","When hunger strikes.",7734.06,7734.84,{"idx":8920,"utterance_id":8921,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8916,"start_s":8922,"end_s":8923,"word_count":96,"indexable":74},1353,"195555",7735.46,7736.42,{"idx":8925,"utterance_id":8926,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8927,"start_s":8928,"end_s":8929,"word_count":73,"indexable":74},1354,"195556","And Brazilians will decide at the last minute.",7736.5,7738.42,{"idx":8931,"utterance_id":8932,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8933,"start_s":8934,"end_s":8935,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1355,"195557","This election is very strange.",7738.44,7740.68,{"idx":8937,"utterance_id":8938,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8939,"start_s":8940,"end_s":8941,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1356,"195558","Isn't it?",7740.9,7741.16,{"idx":8943,"utterance_id":8944,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8945,"start_s":8946,"end_s":8947,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1357,"195559","A lot is happening around.",7742.16,7744.52,{"idx":8949,"utterance_id":8950,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8951,"start_s":8952,"end_s":8953,"word_count":103,"indexable":74},1358,"195560","I talk to a lot of people.",7744.84,7746.68,{"idx":8955,"utterance_id":8956,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8957,"start_s":8958,"end_s":8959,"word_count":184,"indexable":74},1359,"195561","Just last week I met a guy who was at a construction site; we asked him, 'Who are you going to vote for?'",7746.94,7754.18,{"idx":8961,"utterance_id":8962,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8963,"start_s":8964,"end_s":8965,"word_count":143,"indexable":74},1360,"195562","He said, 'I don't even know who's a candidate, I'm not aware of anything.'",7754.2,7757.16,{"idx":8967,"utterance_id":8968,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8969,"start_s":8970,"end_s":8971,"word_count":201,"topic_slug":23,"topic_label":20,"target_id":8972,"target_proposition":8973,"stance":755,"stance_confidence":1358,"rationale":8974,"indexable":702},1361,"195563","Brazilians are worried about paying debts, about settling last week's electricity bill that still hasn't been paid.",7757.88,7766.7,"6fe4f470-274f-4ed5-b87b-0fc66500f6a1","recognize families' concerns about debts and energy bills","Relays voters' everyday economic concerns without proposing policy.",{"idx":8976,"utterance_id":8977,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8978,"start_s":8979,"end_s":8980,"word_count":4,"indexable":74},1362,"195564","That's the real concern — they're worried about surviving.",7767.14,7770.32,{"idx":8982,"utterance_id":8983,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8984,"start_s":8985,"end_s":8986,"word_count":83,"indexable":74},1363,"195565","Runoff.",7771.22,7771.74,{"idx":8988,"utterance_id":8989,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8990,"start_s":8991,"end_s":8992,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":8872,"topic_label":8873,"target_id":8993,"target_proposition":8994,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":903,"rationale":8995,"indexable":702},1364,"195566","Runoff — I'm confident I'll be there.",7772.94,7775.58,"abd9b2a8-dd6c-4a09-a269-a08a4c8786d1","run and compete in the second round","Expresses explicit confidence in reaching the second round.",{"idx":8997,"utterance_id":8998,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":8999,"start_s":9000,"end_s":9001,"word_count":88,"indexable":74},1365,"195567","If I'm not?",7775.84,7776.34,{"idx":9003,"utterance_id":9004,"speaker_name":68,"speaker_slug":69,"text":9005,"start_s":9006,"end_s":9007,"word_count":125,"topic_slug":9008,"topic_label":9009,"target_id":9010,"target_proposition":9011,"stance":699,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":9012,"indexable":702},1366,"195568","If I'm not, whoever is against Lula.",7776.76,7778.68,"estrategia-eleitoral","Electoral Strategy","fbec7c75-9d90-46d8-8638-ca72c689c0bd","support an alternative right-wing candidacy to prevent the PT's advance","Says he will support whoever is 'contra' the mentioned 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